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    ok so as some of you know i have a very weak internet connection
    this is because i am using a neighbors wifi (out of desperation), and its pretty weak. i know its shameful but i have no choice. plus i have no way of finding out the owner b/c its the generic name for the router ("linksys") and theres a huge apartment complex right behind my house.
    with the help of a friend, i found a good router. but now i need a good argument so i can convince my dad to let me get the router so i can play MP for my many games, like COD4 and AA.

    heres the situation with me and my dad.
    he doesnt trust me that much, since about a year ago he caught me using a neighbors wifi. when i first asked for a router, he said "i dont trust you." that was about a week ago.

    now, there are 2 ways of doing this, at first glance:
    1) suck up to him and earn it, but it will take a while
    2) buy it and hide it, but if im caught theres huge consequences and ill lose the router.
    3) make a deal with him, like if i get an A on my final exam for my summer course i get the router

    and no, kicking my dad in the if he says no is NOT an option.

    so any suggestions on how to argue for a router?

    thanks for the help!
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    Well, i've done the second two, not the first.

    2 worked, my parents just dealt with it, but it was pretty much the first thing I've done outside of their jurisdiction that they know about

    I suggest 3, pick an easy exam and study like hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    Well, i've done the second two, not the first.

    2 worked, my parents just dealt with it, but it was pretty much the first thing I've done outside of their jurisdiction that they know about

    I suggest 3, pick an easy exam and study like hell.
    well ive done a lot things outside their jurisdiction, but short of doing drugs, smoking or alcohol addiction.
    the problem with 2 is that if im caught....
    my dad is not one to be trifled with. he took away my laptop for a month when he found out i was using a neighbors wifi. i dont want to know what he will do if he finds the router. too much risk and it will only be a last, desperate option for me.

    and i only have one final to study for, a history class, and i think i will study hard for this one. i did ok on my AP US history exam, i got a 3, so hes not too happy. maybe if i got an A+ i can change his mind.
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    Get a friend to buy you a router for your birthday maybe.


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    Default Re: need a little advice

    one of the best rules in life to adhere to, is to never ask a parent for money/property. Save up the money and buy it yourself, that way, the next time your father decides to shove his foot up your he can't bludgeon you with the router as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy187 View Post
    Get a friend to buy you a router for your birthday maybe.
    good idea, if my birthday was in august or september. but its not. its in february.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    one of the best rules in life to adhere to, is to never ask a parent for money/property. Save up the money and buy it yourself, that way, the next time your father decides to shove his foot up your he can't bludgeon you with the router as well.
    i do plan to buy it myself, but id rather stay on his good side. if he found out that i got a router without his permission hed probably take something valuable away from me, even if i did buy it. like my laptop. bear in mind everyone that the router will be connected to my home computer.
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    You could just try not stealing your neighbour's internet connection. Is this router so you can get a better signal from your neighbour?

    And what do you mean you have no choice? Do you have a slow internet connection at home or no internet connection? If it's no internet connection then I can understand how you would need to steal from the neighbour for school, but stealing just to play a game is just downright dirty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miotas View Post
    You could just try not stealing your neighbour's internet connection. Is this router so you can get a better signal from your neighbour?

    And what do you mean you have no choice? Do you have a slow internet connection at home or no internet connection? If it's no internet connection then I can understand how you would need to steal from the neighbour for school, but stealing just to play a game is just downright dirty.
    Isn't routers used to get your own internet connection going?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    good idea, if my birthday was in august or september. but its not. its in february.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    ok so as some of you know i have a very weak internet connection
    this is because i am using a neighbors wifi (out of desperation), and its pretty weak. i know its shameful but i have no choice. plus i have no way of finding out the owner b/c its the generic name for the router ("linksys") and theres a huge apartment complex right behind my house.
    with the help of a friend, i found a good router. but now i need a good argument so i can convince my dad to let me get the router so i can play MP for my many games, like COD4 and AA.

    heres the situation with me and my dad.
    he doesnt trust me that much, since about a year ago he caught me using a neighbors wifi. when i first asked for a router, he said "i dont trust you." that was about a week ago.

    now, there are 2 ways of doing this, at first glance:
    1) suck up to him and earn it, but it will take a while
    2) buy it and hide it, but if im caught theres huge consequences and ill lose the router.
    3) make a deal with him, like if i get an A on my final exam for my summer course i get the router

    and no, kicking my dad in the if he says no is NOT an option.

    so any suggestions on how to argue for a router?

    thanks for the help!
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    I'm a tad confused about the layout. Your family has broadband access, but the modem is just connected directly into the main house computer?

    If this is the case, it should be easy to talk your father into a router. A router between the modem and the internal home network offers a lot more security than the honeypot you currently have. Even homes with just a single computer should have a router, if only for NAT and port filtering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    I'm a tad confused about the layout. Your family has broadband access, but the modem is just connected directly into the main house computer?

    If this is the case, it should be easy to talk your father into a router. A router between the modem and the internal home network offers a lot more security than the honeypot you currently have. Even homes with just a single computer should have a router, if only for NAT and port filtering.
    yes that is the case. the broadband modem is directly wired into the computer.

    is it really true that a router offers more security? ive always suspected that a router does good things for a connection, but i was never really sure. this may be the argument i really need.
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    Your setup really doesn't make much sense. I assume your dad is paying for a dialup service, while having broadband also?

    Tell him it will save him money in the long run if you buy a router. I'm not seeing the logic here.



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    They have a broadband connection and the modem for this connection is connected to the desktop pc. Our boy hooah wants to get a wireless router connected to this modem so he can access it from his laptop.

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