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    I think my theory is correct, if not.. it was a good one at least.

    ATPG's guy vote was not counted, if so, you would have been brigged. Two votes were not cast (two were not heard), even though Atheotos abstained, it still affects the tally.

    It has to be him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    I think my theory is correct, if not.. it was a good one at least.

    ATPG's guy vote was not counted, if so, you would have been brigged. Two votes were not cast (two were not heard), even though Atheotos abstained, it still affects the tally.

    It has to be him.
    atheotes vote was counted: one vote Beskar, one vote johnhughthom, one abstain. Tie between Beskar and johnhughthom.

    atheotes vote was not counted: one vote Beskar, one vote johnhughthom. Tie between johnhughthom and Beskar.

    We need the actual tally before we can be sure of your theory, even then how do we know you are Spock?

    And anyhoo, and much more important, the write up says a tie between Beskar and me was decided by Spock. If Beskar is Spock I demand a rerun, this is not ethical!!!


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    As I said, I am Spook, therefore, Spook wouldn't vote on himself, would he? "I must logically deduct, I will send myself to the Brig".

    However, I do believe you are now innocent, also, you also forget that "two votes were not heard" and also "two people didn't vote"

    Since the others have either been in the brig, or in the brig, this leaves the choice either me or Atheotos. Since it is not me, as I am Spook, it must be Atheotos. Thus, I suggest we send Atheotos to the brig. Afterall, the worst punishment is being in the brig for a couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    As I said, I am Spook, therefore, Spook wouldn't vote on himself, would he? "I must logically deduct, I will send myself to the Brig".

    However, I do believe you are now innocent, also, you also forget that "two votes were not heard" and also "two people didn't vote"

    Since the others have either been in the brig, or in the brig, this leaves the choice either me or Atheotos. Since it is not me, as I am Spook, it must be Atheotos. Thus, I suggest we send Atheotos to the brig. Afterall, the worst punishment is being in the brig for a couple of days.
    Who the heck is Spook?
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    The ghost of Spock?

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    Will be when I get killed.
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    Night is over, write-up commencing.
    Strikeout!

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    On Rura Penthe

    Kirk and McCoy found themselves surrounded by several Klingons with disrupters pointed!

    "Someone wants you out of the way. An accident can be convincing for killing one of you, but not two. Now killed while trying to escape...now that's convincing for both!"

    "Who? Who wants us out of the way?"

    "Since you're all going to die anyways, why not tell. There's a traitor on your ship. This traitor's name is..."

    Before anything could happen, they were both transported back to the Enterprise.





    (Kirk's view)

    On the Enterprise

    "Stupid...son of a...they were just about to explain the whole thing!" said Kirk.

    "Would you like us to beam you back down?" asked Chekov.

    "Absolutely not!" said McCoy.

    After Spock briefs Kirk, Kirk decides to make an executive decision

    "Those in the brig are to be released, and are free to go about their duties. But they are still under suspicion. Today, Khazaar and johnhughthom will each start with one vote against them."

    "I can administer a truth serum," suggested Dr. McCoy. "It would, unfortunately, knock the recipient unconscious for an entire month."

    "Very well," said Kirk. "Starting with today's vote, the person with the most votes will be forced to take this serum."

    Begin Day 4. Voting will end abruptly at 1800 PST Friday (0100 GMT Saturday). The "winner" of each vote will from now on be removed from the game!
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    Vote: Atheotos for reasons I explained earlier.
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    I'm not convinced on atheotes. I read your earlier theory, I didn't see why it necessarily follows. Can you explain it to me? I took my stupid pills this morning aboard a nuclear wessel.
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    It doesn't necessarily follow.

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    Look, I need Tratorix and AVSM to confirm they were the two on the planet. If they were, my theory holds a lot of water. Unfortunately, I doubt they would come forward, as the Cpt. dying would be a bad situation if my theory is wrong.

    The theory works like this -

    Two on planet were not heard - Tratorix and AVSM both did not vote
    The Mafia is definitely not - AskthePizzaGuy, John and Khazaar.
    I am Spock - Hopefully you can tell I am obviously a townie.

    This leaves - Atheotos.

    So if I am correct about the write-ups and the "not mafia" are infact, not Mafia, then the theory is legitimate.
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    What did you do last night, Beskar?
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    Just because they did not vote does not mean Tratorix and AVSM are on the planet, the sabotaged comm station was not known until after the round ended. If we had a tally that let us know atheotes vote was counted then I would give your theory credence, we don't however so there is no way to prove your idea.

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    Meh. I was hoping to get more information before making my choice. Atheotes is still on my suspect list and so yes, I have to want to go along with it. However I am still considered scummy to some and I'm not sure if my support would be a help or a hindrance.

    vote: atheotes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    What did you do last night, Beskar?
    Nothing, I have no night actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Look, I need Tratorix and AVSM to confirm they were the two on the planet. If they were, my theory holds a lot of water. Unfortunately, I doubt they would come forward, as the Cpt. dying would be a bad situation if my theory is wrong.

    The theory works like this -

    Two on planet were not heard - Tratorix and AVSM both did not vote
    The Mafia is definitely not - AskthePizzaGuy, John and Khazaar.
    I am Spock - Hopefully you can tell I am obviously a townie.

    This leaves - Atheotos.

    So if I am correct about the write-ups and the "not mafia" are infact, not Mafia, then the theory is legitimate.
    ok...let me take a stab at it even though i dont understand completely...

    AVSM has not participated in this game for quite some time now...
    tratorix voted and unvoted last phase... if they were both prevented from voting i am guessing they would have told that i guess...
    Did you ignore these just to fit in your theory or was it deliberate misleading

    your vote counted and John's vote counted - so the only thing we can deduct is that you were not the 2 who were out of communication

    honestly i dont know where the game is going... in the 3 nights and days - we have only had the communication system disabled and everyone is still alive

    p.s. Beskar my name is Atheotes...

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    Hello, I'm William Shatner, and I AM CANADIAN

    Vote: johnhueythomethingoranother
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    WELCOME TO AVSM
    Cool store, bro! I want some ham.
    No ham, pepsi.
    They make deli slices of frozen pepsi now? Awesome!
    You also need to purchase a small freezer for storage of your pepsi.
    It runs on batteries. You'll need a few.
    Uhh, I guess I won't have pepsi then. Do you have change for a twenty?
    You can sift through the penny jar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Nothing, I have no night actions.
    Really? Spock not having an investigation ability or something seems quite... illogical. Vote: Beskar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tratorix View Post
    Really? Spock not having an investigation ability or something seems quite... illogical. Vote: Beskar.
    I use my ability in the day phase, if you look at the end of day write-up it's there.

    It would be illogical for me to have multiple abilities. I mean, a vulcan hand-grip would be a tad over powered.

    Now stop being a clutz and vote: Atheotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    I use my ability in the day phase, if you look at the end of day write-up it's there.

    It would be illogical for me to have multiple abilities. I mean, a vulcan hand-grip would be a tad over powered.

    Now stop being a clutz and vote: Atheotes.
    Don't you call me a clutz ya green-blooded, pointy eared twit! So your ability is to break ties? That's a pretty lame power. Unvote: Beskar

    Also, has atheotes claimed a role yet?

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    I'm the Russian guy, and I have the ability to investigate once. That's kind of why I was all tickled off you guys shoved me in the brig. I checked out Beskar and he is fine.
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    As a proud captain, I have two votes. Phear me.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    WELCOME TO AVSM
    Cool store, bro! I want some ham.
    No ham, pepsi.
    They make deli slices of frozen pepsi now? Awesome!
    You also need to purchase a small freezer for storage of your pepsi.
    It runs on batteries. You'll need a few.
    Uhh, I guess I won't have pepsi then. Do you have change for a twenty?
    You can sift through the penny jar
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    Ay lads, beeing in the Brig doesn´t really clear you of anything as far as I can see. Nothing really happened so far, crunchtime starts now. But we had three nights, so if we do have a detective there should be some info already.
    Two people hold a phaser before Kirk (claimed AVSM) and Bones (claimed noone) came aboard.

    It can´t hurt to know who is claiming to be who:
    Kirk: AVSM
    Ohura: Johnhughtom
    Checkov: ATPG
    Spock: Beskar
    Scotty: Yours truly
    Sulu:?
    Bones:?

    I´d consider this whole thing starting in earnest now. Vote: Johnhughtom because your vote was fishy and you could have one of the phasers.

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    Are you still banging on about my vote being the last one counted, well I'm sorry for checking the time the previous round had ended and making sure I got my vote in on time.
    What on earth would a nice girl like me want with phasers, would I even know how to use one? I mean did I ever get off the command deck, why did Kirk never bring me down to the planets? Racism or sexism perhaps?



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    While John can be a suspect, I think we shouldn't let Atheotes slip-by. He is going to lurk his way through, if we don't act on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    Hello, I'm William Shatner, and I AM CANADIAN

    Vote: johnhueythomethingoranother
    I can live with you not knowing my name, any chance of, umm, you know... some sort of reasoning behind your vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    While John can be a suspect.
    Reasoning?
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    Uncertainity: while I think it is Atheotes, if I am wrong, it could be you.

    It's like those products saying "we kill 99.98% of all bacteria" because all it takes is one bacteria to survive, then it is false advertising. It is called "margin of error".

    No one is proven an innocent, while some are more likely than others (The Captain, Me, etc) there is still doubt and suspicion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazaar View Post
    I´m a bit annoyed that the round was closed in such a way. I would really prefer a post that says voting closed, round over instead of retroactively closing the round. Now it looks like the round continued to the casual observer and I was just unlucky in getting tossed into the brig where actually Johnhuntingtons vote coincidentially was in just before rounds end (or not?). When you can´t make a rounds end as a moderator, isn´t it possible to just extend it until you can actually close it? Seems fairer to me...


    Johnhuntington clearly abused the system and he might have doomed Kirk and Bones to freezing death. So whatever you do next round, make sure he´s behind bars.
    To be honest I was slightly annoyed by this, specifically the second paragraph, when it was posted but I let it slide as I didn't want to make a fuss and spoil the game. If it is now going to be the basis of suspicion against me then I have to take issue with it, I am basically accused of cheating because my vote was in just before the deadline? It doesn't even make sense, am I supposed to be in league with the host? I don't mind any type of abuse or banter in character, but this is an accusation of abusing the spirit of the game with no evidence.
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    Beskar - you still havent replied to my post pointing holes in your theory...
    Khazaar, i am Valeris..and i believe Tratorix is bones...

    John, do you care to explain why you threatedned that we will lose communication if we vote for you?
    Vote: abstain for now

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