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    Default Re: Are wiccans a bunch of dillusionnal people?

    Wicca is as made up as any other religion. And like any other religion it starts of as being popular and attractive to certain demographics.

    It's also as nutty and flaky as any other religion - but a bit more tolerant and nice.
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    Is there human sacrifice or pain involved? Will her sect go to war with another sect? Will she/has she tried to convert you? Does she have to give up all her money to the sect?

    If no to all the above (and I bet "no" it is), then I don't see a problem. Explore her beliefs/understandings with her. As whacky as anybody's belief seem at the outset, they all have merit of some kind, or satisfy some need in the believer - as the fellas above said. Find out what that need is, and help her satisfy it.

    Btw, just last year "Wicca" was recognized as an authorized entry on US Army Personnel Records and Dog Tags. I don't know if Wiccan Chaplains have been found though, or what symbol they wear on their uniform collar.
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    Default Re: Are wiccans a bunch of dillusionnal people?

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    Btw, just last year "Wicca" was recognized as an authorized entry on US Army Personnel Records and Dog Tags. I don't know if Wiccan Chaplains have been found though, or what symbol they wear on their uniform collar.
    Hmmm. If there are any Wiccan Chaplains I'd bet they'd be few and far between, since as a rule of thumb, they tend to be more pacifist than Buddhists. As far as the symbol goes, I know it's a Pentacle, since it seems to be pretty uniform to put the Pentacle on Wiccan Headstones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Wicca is as made up as any other religion. And like any other religion it starts of as being popular and attractive to certain demographics.

    It's also as nutty and flaky as any other religion - but a bit more tolerant and nice.
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    Brother Wakizashi, I am an equal opportunity bigot when it comes to religion, I take the same very dim view of every single one. How organized one is or isn't means nothing to me about it's legitimacy. Look and how decentralized Islam is and how many flavors there are, one could argue it's not terribly "organized", in that sense. Compare that with Scientology, which is strictly regulated internally and organized... does that make it any more or less legit? Hint:

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    I guess people look down on wiccans more than christians because most christians were raised christian, and most wiccans had a reason for adopting it. And because the lack of history behind it and the coven thing makes it sound silly, like having a vampire religion or something.

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    You're going to get snotty, elitist people with any religion. In my experience and opinion christians are by far the worst though. Hell, one only need look here in the backroom for prime examples of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    I guess people look down on wiccans more than christians because most christians were raised christian, and most wiccans had a reason for adopting it. And because the lack of history behind it and the coven thing makes it sound silly, like having a vampire religion or something.
    Or maybe its because people hear about the three main religions much more then Wicca? I hear crazy stuff like "Drink the blood of Christ, and accept him into your life and you will be saved from eternal damnation" and it doesnt phase me because iv heard it repeated all throughout my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    +1

    Brother Wakizashi, I am an equal opportunity bigot when it comes to religion, I take the same very dim view of every single one. How organized one is or isn't means nothing to me about it's legitimacy. Look and how decentralized Islam is and how many flavors there are, one could argue it's not terribly "organized", in that sense. Compare that with Scientology, which is strictly regulated internally and organized... does that make it any more or less legit? Hint:
    I don't disagree with you, I just dislike the use of personal observation being used as fact. Must be a pet peeve that one picks up when working with Criminal Procedure.
    This thread is actually quite funny in this sense.

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    @ Wakizashi

    This thread is kinda funny, but where did I say my views were factual and not opinions?
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    At least they aren't Scientologists.
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    Default Re: Are wiccans a bunch of dillusionnal people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    @ Wakizashi

    This thread is kinda funny, but where did I say my views were factual and not opinions?
    Wicca is a made-up 'religion' of which 90% of it's adherents are middle and high school aged kids, mostly girls, who are rebelling against their parents and christian upbringings. The other 10% are people who've made it past high school and still for some reason believe in it. It's a very 'fashionable' 'religion' for younger kids in that age bracket.



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    Default Re: Are wiccans a bunch of dillusionnal people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    Wicca is a made-up 'religion' of which 90% of it's adherents are middle and high school aged kids, mostly girls, who are rebelling against their parents and christian upbringings. The other 10% are people who've made it past high school and still for some reason believe in it. It's a very 'fashionable' 'religion' for younger kids in that age bracket.


    You left out my prefix: "My politically incorrect views:"

    Fine, I'll concede I should have worded that intro a bit better. I thought it was pretty much understood as a given that "my views" == "my opinions", and that "politically incorrect" all but indicates that what I'm saying is opinion. Facts aren't "politically incorrect", they just are. I also never stated that was I mentioned was fact, either.
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    I'll go with the touchy-feely option...

    Find out what about the religion contributes to her life.

    MY gf is christian, and I am very agnostic. We have been able to set that aside though :)

    We just have the church-wedding issue left...

    Wicca is not worse than any other religion... And some of the followers I met were quite cool :)

    Good luck

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    Default Re: Are wiccans a bunch of dillusionnal people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    You left out my prefix: "My politically incorrect views:"

    Fine, I'll concede I should have worded that intro a bit better. I thought it was pretty much understood as a given that "my views" == "my opinions", and that "politically incorrect" all but indicates that what I'm saying is opinion. Facts aren't "politically incorrect", they just are. I also never stated that was I mentioned was fact, either.
    Point Taken.

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