America - The Freest Country?

**Don Corleone** · 09-17-2009, 11:57

I think Meneldil has the straightest shot so far. Very few and far between are the people that actually admit to this, but in general, "freedom" means freedom to do what I want and "freedom" to prevent you from doing what I don't want you to do.

**Lemur** · 09-17-2009, 14:30

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Very few and far between are the people that actually admit to this, but in general, "freedom" means freedom to do what I want and "freedom" to prevent you from doing what I don't want you to do.

Oh yeah? Well then, Mister Smartypants, what exactly did Mel Gibson die for?

**Gregoshi** · 09-17-2009, 15:00

Originally Posted by Lemur

Oh yeah? Well then, Mister Smartypants, what exactly did Mel Gibson die for?

Freedom!!

Wait, do yo mean in Braveheart or The Patriot? If the latter, he died because it was an awful movie.

**Strike For The South** · 09-17-2009, 16:02

USA USA USA

**Kadagar_AV** · 09-17-2009, 16:29

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

USA USA USA

LOL, good one!

Took me some time to get it, but now I did it's sarcasm at its best

No need to make a point, or think about the issue... Just wave the flag and be patriotic...

**Mooks** · 09-17-2009, 16:32

Of all the countries iv read about the Netherlands seems like the most free. America is nowhere the most free since the prison population is enormously huge, the goverment WANTS people in prison, have no doubt about that.

**Fragony** · 09-17-2009, 16:42

Originally Posted by Mooks

Of all the countries iv read about the Netherlands seems like the most free. America is nowhere the most free since the prison population is enormously huge, the goverment WANTS people in prison, have no doubt about that.

Depends, we certainly have the most civil liberties but the Americans are better protected (in law at least theory and practise huh) against their governments, the Netherlands is a bit of a townshall-junta, you wouldn't believe how many rules there are for very small things, and it can get very childish and very random.

**Sarmatian** · 09-17-2009, 16:57

Originally Posted by Mooks

Of all the countries iv read about the Netherlands seems like the most free. America is nowhere the most free since the prison population is enormously huge, the goverment WANTS people in prison, have no doubt about that.

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So that it can pay for them instead of them paying for themselves???

On the topic, I don't believe that USA is the freest country in the world. I'd put many European countries ahead of US...

As Meneldil said, it's just a national myth... A myth that goes a long way back, when people were slaves and/or were treated as second class citizens because of their colour, ancestry, religion etc..

**Beskar** · 09-17-2009, 21:28

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

As Meneldil said, it's just a national myth... A myth that goes a long way back, when people were slaves and/or were treated as second class citizens because of their colour, ancestry, religion etc..

Just for information, America brought freedom and equality long after the British did and Britain were the ones who dismantled the slave trade and the practise of slavery.

**Mooks** · 09-17-2009, 23:22

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

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So that it can pay for them instead of them paying for themselves???

Look at the deficit and how much it is increasing, I really doubt the government really cares about that.

**Viking** · 09-17-2009, 17:09

Originally Posted by Mooks

Of all the countries iv read about the Netherlands seems like the most free. America is nowhere the most free since the prison population is enormously huge, the goverment WANTS people in prison, have no doubt about that.

Are the people there even freer than what they are in Poland?