I understand some are not necessarily up to speed on things but, that's a pretty big crutch when you want to then go and wade into the Council ring.

I'm not going to try and back off a sparring match because someone says "I'm not really sure what's going on with the save."

In that case it's probably best to keep a low profile. It may sound harsh but it's the only way to keep the integrity of discussions in the Council.

Hell I'm at work half the time so I'm PMing people who can see the save for the info I need.