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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Why would I have any problems telling those families that even though someone was killed by an immigrant, I still think it's OK for the 200k other immigrants to stay in this country?
    So first you say all statistics are lies and then you quote Norwegian statistics, mix them with british statistics, assume things that don't seem to be in the statistics(that every immigrant committed just one murder, you might of course want to cite statistics to prove this ) and then you imagine things I never said.

    75 murders may be statistically(oh wait, you said all statistics are lies) irrelevant to you, I was just saying it's certainly not to the families of the people, nowhere did I say that this means you should throw out all immigrants, you might want to stop proactively putting words into other peoples' mouths.

    If immigrants are much more likely to commit murder then surely there is something wrong with them, their community or their treatment, if it's so irrelevant then why does Norway have a police in the first place? And even if it's completely irrelevant in Norway, why do you assume from that that it is completely irrelevant in Britain as well? Is Norway an exact copy of Britain now?


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    So first you say all statistics are lies and then you quote Norwegian statistics, mix them with british statistics, assume things that don't seem to be in the statistics(that every immigrant committed just one murder, you might of course want to cite statistics to prove this ) and then you imagine things I never said.

    75 murders may be statistically(oh wait, you said all statistics are lies) irrelevant to you, I was just saying it's certainly not to the families of the people, nowhere did I say that this means you should throw out all immigrants, you might want to stop proactively putting words into other peoples' mouths.

    If immigrants are much more likely to commit murder then surely there is something wrong with them, their community or their treatment, if it's so irrelevant then why does Norway have a police in the first place? And even if it's completely irrelevant in Norway, why do you assume from that that it is completely irrelevant in Britain as well? Is Norway an exact copy of Britain now?
    Try reading Tribesey's excellent post

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    (that every immigrant committed just one murder, you might of course want to cite statistics to prove this )

    No I do not assume that, in fact I stated the opposite.... 75 is the number of people killed by an immigrant, not the number of immigrant murderers. As I said, the number of murderers would be a little lower, as I can recall a few double murders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Try reading Tribesey's excellent post
    Yeah, well, he's talking about Norwegian statistics while this thread is about British statistics, of course they may be similar but it can't hurt to point that out, what you did was try to disprove the british statistics with Norwegian ones and...

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    No I do not assume that, in fact I stated the opposite.... 75 is the number of people killed by an immigrant, not the number of immigrant murderers. As I said, the number of murderers would be a little lower, as I can recall a few double murders.
    Oh no you didn't:

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The same statistic can lead to all kinds of different conclusions, when presented in different ways. But when you're dealing such low numbers as 75 out of 200.000, I think percentages are irrelevant.


    Yes, but I still can't see why on earth those 75 deaths should affect the 199.925 non-murdering immigrants one bit.
    200.000 immigrants -75 murders = 199.925 non-murdering immigrants = 75 murdering immigrants = one murder per immigrant murderer is your logic displayed here.

    Now I'm going to take the above as a correction but this topic is about Britain and Britain is not Norway so they may have different problems under their CCTV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Yeah, well, he's talking about Norwegian statistics while this thread is about British statistics, of course they may be similar but it can't hurt to point that out, what you did was try to disprove the british statistics with Norwegian ones and...



    Oh no you didn't:



    200.000 immigrants -75 murders = 199.925 non-murdering immigrants = 75 murdering immigrants = one murder per immigrant murderer is your logic displayed here.

    Now I'm going to take the above as a correction but this topic is about Britain and Britain is not Norway so they may have different problems under their CCTV.
    Oh give it a rest.
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    I think he's trying to say that the murder of Norwegians doesn't matter. Some sort of cosmic karma or cultural guilt perhaps.
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    Oh give it a rest.
    funny isnt it, to be in switched positions?
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    funny isnt it, to be in switched positions?
    Hmm?

    Husar is just having his grammar nazi period, nothing to see here
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    You know, it could just be other factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Husar is just having his grammar nazi period, nothing to see here
    Not here, but it's funny watching you, a bit like a fish out of the water...


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