The Thirty Years War [Concluded]

[Subotan]

all of my land grabs have been through diplomacy and fair rights.

RP, psh if i was role playing i wouldn't be expanding at all. id try to survive not win as we are supposed to. what you did was very anti- rp as well.

I was trying to correct a faulty game mechanic, via RPing.

Its logical because people realy hate it when you try to pick on the little guy, attacking little switzerland after it has finally gathered the courage to take a step out of it's mountains makes you look like more of an expansionistic evil empire than I do.

Hey, I said it was fine for it to expand of th mountains, but to take Framche-Comte and Italy? Too far man, too far.

As an OOC matter, it has been a pleasure hurling playful diplomatic barbs back and forth with you, Subotan. That, more than the actual war, has been interesting to me, and what I derive the most joy from in these games. I hope you don't feel unwelcome or picked on in any sort of out-of-character way.

Oh yeah, totally.

I am afraid I am much, much more heavily invested in this war, perhaps more than anyone else. I have debts to pay and such. I cannot stand for France to exist as a state unless I am fully compensated for my war costs, which are beyond extensive.

I also will not declare peace without the southeast third of France under Swiss protection. That's the price of conflict... a buffer zone. And not a neutral one either.

Essentially, it's just a matter of time before Switzerland's banks collapse and the war is won; by me.

everything good about that blades except the savoy thing.

Surrendering Savoy is stotally unacceptable. I inherited that land fair and square. However, Spain does have a claim to Framche Comte, so I may be willing to part with some of that, as well as relinquish my claim to the Kingdom of Italy..

this plan sounds eerily like the treaty of versailles. *cough ww2 is coming cough*

i know im not in the war but at the end plenty of saxon soldiers will have died......

No seriously I have no idea what you think I am planning, I think just castrating his army and splittiing his land is a pretty good plan as it is.

Greyblades is only saying this because I sent him a PM warning him that iof he attacked Vienna, he'd have to face an Austro-Franco Alliance.

EDIT: Btw Sweden, I'm totally cool with you making peace with France, and even Switzerland. However, I request that you come to my aid against England, and that you at least harass their shipping to prevent them from crossing the channel. I can pledge all of the North Sea Islands to you, should we fight together.