Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
We won't have any use for our military even in a war, Frags. Unless of course cannon fodder is considered useful....Originally Posted by Fragony
So no, I place soldiers below junkies on the social ladder. I haven't decided whether they should be placed above or below the A(H1N1) virus yet....
Yes, because another continental european war is so likely...
Also, how long did it take Hitler(or the russkies) to take Sweden, if I may ask?
Last edited by HoreTore; 11-28-2009 at 17:43.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
It'd be a lot more likely if countrie didn't maintain their armed forces.
And as for the question, soldiers risk their lives in the defence of their country and its ideals whereas junkies only concern is their next hit and which grannie to rob to get it.
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Yeah....Because if nobody had a military, everyone would invade each with their....uhm.... Junkie brigades....?
There is absolutely no reason to die "in defence of Norway", and not a single Norwegian soldier in action today are even remoltely close to defending anyone at all, and as for our ideals, well, they're stomping all over them with their idiotic actions.
There's too much common economic interest in Europe to make war a possibility. And thanks to the EU, we'll all live in the same country soon anyway.
Nobility and soldiers; the lowest of the low.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Yeah....Because if nobody had a military, everyone would invade each with their....uhm.... Junkie brigades....?
There is absolutely no reason to die "in defence of Norway", and not a single Norwegian soldier in action today are even remoltely close to defending anyone at all, and as for our ideals, well, they're stomping all over them with their idiotic actions.
There's too much common economic interest in Europe to make war a possibility. And thanks to the EU, we'll all live in the same country soon anyway.
Nobility and soldiers; the lowest of the low.Can't believe I wasted my time posting the first time, but if you are ever over my way let me know and I'll introduce to my para friend and you two can discuss your opinions.
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Ah yes, the british soldiers... I've met a few of those, are there any of them nowadays who are not criminals?
Fine snow camo though, nobody ever saw them when they were dressed in....Black....
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
I could make a very obvious joke here.....but..I................wont'tFine snow camo though, nobody ever saw them when they were dressed in....Black....
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
What's wrong you? Have a bad experience with a squaddie when you were younger?Ah yes, the british soldiers... I've met a few of those, are there any of them nowadays who are not criminals?
Fine snow camo though, nobody ever saw them when they were dressed in....Black....
You're not worth the infraction points but let's just say I wouldn't be inviting you for a drink.
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
I understand that Norway is a frigid dump whose only redeeming feature is that it floats on oil. Since the need for U-boat pens has passed any other use for the country has long passed.
In the UK with the starting salary of 16k, they get to go to war often without adequate equipment, and some die because of this.
They are not book smart, but they are not idiots. They often know the risks yet they still go and die. Some even die whilst trying to save their friends.
There are many different soldiers, and their motives are bound to differ, in the same way that people undertaking any other job do.
I admire someone who apparently is there for the good of all mankind yet who is prepared to rely on hope to solve conflicts - not contribute money and certainly not place his own life on the line. Some might view this as moral hypocrisy or cowardice, but I am impressed how one can maintain these two points of view simultaneously.
Norway's only real contribution to modern warfare was the term "Quisling", and if you're a representative of the populace I can see why.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
HoreTore, there is nothing wrong with an institute that solely exists for killing people!
...wait, perhaps there is.
I agree though, first and foremost, if any department of the government is lacking funds, cut the Defense funds first. What the heck, millions of euros spend on what, making helictopers sound less loud, while teachers work twice if not triple their shifts?
There's a flaw in that logic. I don't see this obsession with the military. Not at all. Actually, in Vuk's words, the very thought that we actually give people money to go and shoot others makes me, what was it, sick to my stomach.
EDIT: Besides, the Freudian explanation is of course, guns are just penises. In the words of George Carlin, you blow other people (up) because their genitalia are larger than your own. (Saw that brilliant pun? That was vital.)
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Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Forgetting how you come across as a selfish, disrespectful ingrate, you know what Hore Tore? After WWI everyone thought that there would not be another war in Europe for a looong time. People who want power attack when their enemies militaries are weak. It is a preventive measure more than anything. A good military is so strong that it is never used. Maybe if Norway cut its BS socialist programs it would have more money for things like infrastructure and paying teachers.
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Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Well Russia is the most likely enemy, aren't they? I kinda remember that Russia is rather cold....
I hurt your special spot, didn't I?
Anyway, I've done my "duty to my country", I've been a soldier, and I have every right to criticize and ridicule the psychopaths who fulfill their sick dreams of killing 5-year olds, while being paid with my bloody tax money.
Also, as for the "socialist programs", well, those are kinda the things I want to pay for instead of bullies with guns. the problem with Norway is that we can't spend more than X ammount or our inflation will go to hell. So if we want to spend more money on something, we really need to cut something else. Like those 35 billions we pay to a military we don't need.
Last edited by HoreTore; 11-28-2009 at 18:01.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
If you can say that soldiers (including some of our members) are the lowest of the low, I might feel entitled to tell you that people like you make me sick to my stomach, so instead, let's just lay off the insults on other members, ok?Well Russia is the most likely enemy, aren't they? I kinda remember that Russia is rather cold....
I hurt your special spot, didn't I?
Anyway, I've done my "duty to my country", I've been a soldier, and I have every right to criticize and ridicule the psychopaths who fulfill their sick dreams of killing 5-year olds, while being paid with my bloody tax money.
Also, as for the "socialist programs", well, those are kinda the things I want to pay for instead of bullies with guns. the problem with Norway is that we can't spend more than X ammount or our inflation will go to hell. So if we want to spend more money on something, we really need to cut something else. Like those 35 billions we pay to a military we don't need.
Psychopaths who fulfill their sick dreams of killing 5-year olds? Was that your motivation to join the military? If not, then where exactly are you getting that? I am glad that we have a member so smart that he knows the motivations of millions of people. If only we mortals all had your mind reading powers. I suppose you never thought that it could have something to do with wanting to keep their country safe.
While I am sorely tempted to debate this with you I have the feeling that you will just completely ignore logic because your mind is completely made up, and I know that if I talk to you much longer I will be swimming in infraction points.
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Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Posting this to see if you can get any reaction from former career soldiers Tore?
RNoN etc...
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Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
No, the reason is that I'm rather pissed that even a red government takes pride in increasing the defense budget by 5 billions.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
If you are in the NATO you must be able to make a fist, a certain percentage of your budget. Most will probably go to r&d anyway, to make cool stuff other will want to buy, katjinggg
What makes me mad is that we send billions to Africa of which 80% ends up on a Swiss bank, now that is a waste of money, and in the end it's funding oppression
Last edited by Fragony; 11-29-2009 at 11:40.
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Exactly, the soldiers are more worthy than the junkies, and it is the government that wastes them, the soldiers just follow orders, which is why this threads title is a little disrespectful, IMHO
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Society only holds soldiers in high esteem because we all feel guilty at them dying, or are secretly jingoists. Are soldiers any better than that junkie if instead of taking the bag, they kill her grandson instead?
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
I know there's plenty of soldiers that aren't saints, but without them whole nations can be destroyed, i.e: world war 2: if France, Britain, Poland other nations didn't fight, most of us probably would have been exterminated, and many of us not here today.
I'm not saying soldiers are necessarily doing a morally good thing, but sometimes there is no other option. Soldiers are told where to go by governments, they don't say 'Jamaica is a horrid country lets nuke them' That is for the government to decide, and soldiers put there lifes on the line whilst doing there jobs. Even if you don't agree with everything there doing you should at least show respect for them, if you were to undertake a job that risky you wouldn't want to be compared to a junkie.
Last edited by Thermal; 11-29-2009 at 00:40.
Re: What's the difference between a soldier and a junkie?
Nato thingie, don't hurt me if Norway isn't a member I am lazy today. And your army would be very useful in a war unless the bad guys are equally good at being in the snow, or fjords with these cool boats.
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