Netherworld II [Concluded]

[TinCow]

You voted GH why in the first place? And I didn't call for a bandwagon on GH at all.

As I stated, I think those targets were picked by an experienced player, not a new player. GH was just the first person that came to mind.

And that is total WIFOM, and you know it. I could vote for the dead too if you want - I suppose that must mean I did not read the night write-up.

WIFOM on Day 1? OH NOES!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My bad. I totally missed that white eyes was one of the two kills. I should read more carefully. Not that my mistake means I'm innocent at all, of course.

[Askthepizzaguy]

My bad. I totally missed that white eyes was one of the two kills. I should read more carefully. Not that my mistake means I'm innocent at all, of course.

You guys don't fully appreciate this man, I fear.

[Diamondeye]

Unvote:Seon Vote: YLC

While all this "veterans buddying up and talking in so much detail that the rest of people can't follow"-stuff is all very funny, I don't see you throwing any votes, gentlemen. Backing these accusations of each other with votes would make them seem vaguely more serious.

[ULC]

Unvote:Seon Vote: YLC

While all this "veterans buddying up and talking in so much detail that the rest of people can't follow"-stuff is all very funny, I don't see you throwing any votes, gentlemen. Backing these accusations of each other with votes would make them seem vaguely more serious.

I have - long ago unvoted Seon and placed it on what I believe is the best first round lynch, GH. Kill me next round if you do not believe me, but I guarantee results if either TC or GH dies today.

[ULC]

As I stated, I think those targets were picked by an experienced player, not a new player. GH was just the first person that came to mind.



WIFOM on Day 1? OH NOES!

GH was the first player on your mind? Why not Sasaki? ATPG? Sigurd? Dear scottishranger? Why not even Beskar? Or even me? What made GH so special?

Day 1 WIFOM is perfectly understandable, when it is used to accuse someone. It doesn't make a lot of sense when used defensively, and for another persons life, especially one that you haven't a stake in, and it can easily be disproven.

[TinCow]

GH was the first player on your mind? Why not Sasaki? ATPG? Sigurd? Dear scottishranger? Why not even Beskar? Or even me? What made GH so special?

I have a mancrush on him.

[ULC]

I have a mancrush on him.

I suppose you do then, with the way your behavior has been - lackluster and not player of the year material at all. Where is the old TinCow? Can I get him in exchange of this one?

How about one that knows he has no defense for defending GH by trying to use Sasaki as a distraction, knowing people will pick on his faulty logic? Why do we need to stop looking at GH, TC? I know you can answer my question.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ooooooh I smell a rumble... *gets out the popcorn*

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have nothing more to add to this conversation other than to say that I reciprocate TinCow's feelings and that YLC's arguments are so laugh-worthy that he won't even have the honor of personally being slayed by myself tonight.

[ULC]

I have nothing more to add to this conversation other than to say that I reciprocate TinCow's feelings and that YLC's arguments are so laugh-worthy that he won't even have the honor of personally being slayed by myself tonight.

Is this a joke? Is that all you have? You sound irrevocably vain in that statement, as if you could kill me at all. If your town, then you can't and thus it's an empty threat, and I am wrong - or your a mafioso and you can, and thus I am right. All your doing right now is bandwagoning on TCs lackluster logic because you have none of your own.

I can bet that I will be attacked this night, oh most assuredly, and not this night, then the next. You and TC are so scummy that it's unbelievable, and one or both of you are mafioso.

[TinCow]

How about one that knows he has no defense for defending GH by trying to use Sasaki as a distraction, knowing people will pick on his faulty logic? Why do we need to stop looking at GH, TC? I know you can answer my question.

Please explain how I defended GH; I was not aware that I had ever done so. Nor am I aware of ever saying we should stop looking at GH. Are you intentionally twisting my words, or are you just being careless?

[GeneralHankerchief]

How about one that knows he has no defense for defending GH by trying to use Sasaki as a distraction, knowing people will pick on his faulty logic? Why do we need to stop looking at GH, TC? I know you can answer my question.

Please explain how TinCow defended me; he was not aware that he had ever done so. Nor is he aware of ever saying we should stop looking at me. Are you intentionally twisting his words, or are you just being careless?

[TinCow]

GH makes a good point, I recommend that we don't lynch him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hay! I have an idea!

Let's lynch them all.

[ULC]

Please explain how I defended GH; I was not aware that I had ever done so. Nor am I aware of ever saying we should stop looking at GH. Are you intentionally twisting my words, or are you just being careless?

Please explain how TinCow defended me; he was not aware that he had ever done so. Nor is he aware of ever saying we should stop looking at me. Are you intentionally twisting his words, or are you just being careless?

Since this is essentially one post, I'll answer both at the same time.

I was voting for GH, when TC jumped on - and immediately jumped off without giving reason why.
TC then responds later in the same said post by saying something about Sasaki that would catch peoples attention - for being idiotic and easily disprovable.

GH is overly defensive when I accuse him, arguing with me instead of simply making a statement, when he knows I am being intentionally unreasonable - he is concerned, and thus has something to prove.

TC and GH bandwagon of each others logic, with TC avoiding me in direct discussion as much as possible, even when he knows that I am asking reasonable questions, rather then unreasonable accusations, like I did with GH. He's not seeing a difference.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Since this is essentially one post, I'll answer both at the same time.

I was voting for GH, when TC jumped on - and immediately jumped off without giving reason why.
TC then responds later in the same said post by saying something about Sasaki that would catch peoples attention - for being idiotic and easily disprovable.

GH is overly defensive when I accuse him, arguing with me instead of simply making a statement, when he knows I am being intentionally unreasonable - he is concerned, and thus has something to prove.

TC and GH bandwagon of each others logic, with TC avoiding me in direct discussion as much as possible, even when he knows that I am asking reasonable questions, rather then unreasonable accusations, like I did with GH. He's not seeing a difference.

You're wrong, but I'm not going to say why. Put your vote on yourself - and keep it there - and I'll tell you why at the end of the round.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I am not sure I agree wholeheartedly with your logic regarding who murdered you and why. Was Andres even here and active at the time? As for me, I am begging your indulgence to just trust me that I didn't murder you. Give me a round of benefit of the doubt, or just for the sake of argument.

Sasaki could have avoided killing you, but that smacks of cowardice. Frankly I think they gave it to AVSM so that it would mess with our brains. But we got AVSM right away, didn't we?

I could make your case in-thread, but I feel you're the best qualified person. I consider Andres' contributions to be lackluster this game. I don't think he was even here to do the murders. I think he skipped out to avoid detection. Tincow and GH are high on my list, but GH sounds like he's the detective or the spokesman for the detective, and as such, he's out. YLC has been revealed, so it's not possible for him to have done it. Chaotix, it's possible...

My next top suspect is actually splitpersonality.

Who are you even talking to? This makes no sense.

[Andres]

Who are you even talking to? This makes no sense.

Let's see:

a) it's new year, so many people are now suffering from a hang-over;
b) it's day 1 in a large mafia game
c) something else
d) some other stuff
e) nonsense

And you expect him to make sense?



Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Sasaki


For expecting people to make sense.

And there are five good reasons to make that vote, so don't say that I'm not making sense here!

[Thermal]

vote: winston hughes

Not only unusual kill choices, but a dead khazzar, which is a player winston hughes always votes for, in other mafia games at least.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: winston hughes

Not only unusual kill choices, but a dead khazzar, which is a player winston hughes always votes for, in other mafia games at least.

Surely a noob (such as myself) would go for the more visible (and obviously experienced) people, like ATPG or GH, rather than people who rarely post. More vocal and experienced mafiosi, on the other hand, might have a good reason for taking out quiet ones, since killing other vocal and experienced players would lead to the question of why they hadn't been targeted themselves.

And as for Khazaar, it's true that I have voted for him repeatedly in another game. But for that very reason, if I were a villain here, it would seem very foolish to kill Khazaar on the first night, since (as has indeed come to pass) it would seem likely to draw unnecessary attention to me.

[Thermal]

unvote
vote: Tincow

His power to control the game is scary, seeing as we don't know if its mafia or town hes benefiting. Although I haven't read thoroughly enough to know if this is true.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Let's see:

a) it's new year, so many people are now suffering from a hang-over;
b) it's day 1 in a large mafia game
c) something else
d) some other stuff
e) nonsense

And you expect him to make sense?



Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Sasaki


For expecting people to make sense.

And there are five good reasons to make that vote, so don't say that I'm not making sense here!

I saw this before you edited out the picture. For shame Andres, for shame.

[Andres]

I saw this before you edited out the picture. For shame Andres, for shame.

What picture?





You're being weirder than me.

[Thermal]

What picture?





You're being weirder than me.

Well your post was edited....

[ULC]

Who are you even talking to? This makes no sense.

I honestly do not understand why you posted this from another thread in here.

[Diamondeye]

Okay, unvote:YLC. I'm giving you the benefit of doubt. vote:GH

[GeneralHankerchief]

I honestly do not understand why you posted this from another thread in here.

You respond to Sasaki's post, which came chronologically after mine, before you come to my post, which was addressed directly at you.


You[']r[e] trying to avoid me, Mr.[YLC], and my reasoning - why?

[ULC]

You respond to Sasaki's post, which came chronologically after mine, before you come to my post, which was addressed directly at you.


You[']r[e] trying to avoid me, Mr.[YLC], and my reasoning - why?

I was more shocked by Sasaki's post and wanted to follow up immediately on it - also, I was busy at the moment and couldn't properly respond to you.

To answer why and how you've been petty - maybe I am confusing you with TC, not sure - your responses just sound so alike. I mean, you literally copied each others posts at one point only changing perspective so they made sense. Your going at me as if, both of you, that I am some how a pest, and using tactics like trying to defame me instead of arguing the point.

[GeneralHankerchief]

To answer why and how you've been petty - maybe I am confusing you with TC, not sure - your responses just sound so alike. I mean, you literally copied each others posts at one point only changing perspective so they made sense. Your going at me as if, both of you, that I am some how a pest, and using tactics like trying to defame me instead of arguing the point.

Referring to the "I copied his post" point, I was already playfully poking fun of that exact point you were making at that time. Try digging closer to the source.

Also, Winston, you're using a WIFOM defense. Anybody could say they'd do X in a certain position while in reality doing Y to deliberately confuse someone. WIFOM defenses generally hold little water around here, so try again.