Jesus Dies For Our Sins... How To Ask Him To Erase All The Porn?

[Cute Wolf]

Yeah, that ever meddling priests just quesioned me again, and after read some of your arguments, I was going into lengthy debate with him... And while I must admit that seeing excessive porns is certainly wrong, and I did consider to reduce that to bare minimum, he asked for me to erase all my games, and replace it with more works on the church . . . . When I ask why? he points out that playing games was not good for the mental health of a CHILD(!), and a child who had exposure to porns and games (he used that phrase again... porns and games) since his youth will develop anti social traits, and must be distanced away from them, in order to gain better social skills.....

WHAT THE? I know that I didn't have much friends at the church... but I have a lot there, at the univ and neighbourhood.... and while he argues that has deletrious efects to a child, he should know that he speaks with 21 years old.... and when I said it was my own business, he threatens to contact my parents.... (my elderly parents live in another city, but having them contacted with a priest who said that their only son collects porn will always generate anoxiousity... and I don't want to made my parents had bad things on their mind about me...)

I'm just tired because of that.... if I don't leave my laptop so recklessly, all of it wouldn't be happened....

Yeah, but anyway, I've decide to erase all my porn... and didn't sent into skullhead foundation because all will takes hundreds of gigabytes....

But when I want to press the "format" button, for some unexplainable reason, I couldn't delete them... (it was set on entirely separate HD partition)... it was really difficult things to do, and then I asked myself... did that was a sign of porn addiction?

The one Christian advice I can give you is to change denomination and become a Porn Again Christian.

LOL
did you have some arguments that tolerate porns at the bible? I sorely need them...

[drone]

WHAT THE? I know that I didn't have much friends at the church... but I have a lot there, at the univ and neighbourhood.... and while he argues that has deletrious efects to a child, he should know that he speaks with 21 years old.... and when I said it was my own business, he threatens to contact my parents.... (my elderly parents live in another city, but having them contacted with a priest who said that their only son collects porn will always generate anoxiousity... and I don't want to made my parents had bad things on their mind about me...)

And with that, it's obvious that the priest is just trying to control you. Instead of giving you a better religious argument, he issues threats. Leave that church now, threats be damned. If you don't it will only get worse.

[Cute Wolf]

And with that, it's obvious that the priest is just trying to control you. Instead of giving you a better religious argument, he issues threats. Leave that church now, threats be damned. If you don't it will only get worse.

Well, maybe I should look for another church then....

[Louis VI the Fat]

did you have some arguments that tolerate porns at the bible? I sorely need them...

1 - Unfortunately you sound most Protestant.


Me, I'm post-Catholic. I understand that sometimes the mind may be willing, but that the flesh is weak. This world being imperfect, man is not perfect, sinful. You are a mortal, imperfect. As are your fellow men, so one's sins are not for others to judge, but between you and your God. This God is forgiving. He did not cast you on this world to suffer, in some depraved act that merely plays out the lives of those predestined to fail, only to punish them for the inevitable.

One ought to struggle to do what is right, repent for that for which one did not find the strength, and for all the rest trust that God, who has shared the fate of the mortal, understands the weakness of the flesh.



2 - Me, I don't have any porn on my computer. I dislike it. I don't consider porn a grave sin. It's just...I enjoy feminine beauty, and watch the odd picture or so, but I'm more intruiged by what remains craftily suggested than what is crassly shown.



3 - Living the right life does not mean depriving oneself of all pleasures of this life. That's for sects. In the appendix to Dawkins' 'The God Delusion', there is a list of adresses for individuals needing support in escaping from religion. My print does not have an adress in Indonesia, but should you need help or counsel, the Council of Australian Humanist Societies can provide it for you in escaping these people.

[Cute Wolf]

but it was all weird anyway... if you ask me to escape again from religion... If you want to know, before deciding to back into Christianity, I was largely agnostic and didn't respect much for the religion... It was my breakup with my muslim girlfriend (caused by external pressures), turned me for a while into a hateful, distressed entity, and at those times, reading the bible again gives me hope and recover, and I even decide to get another relationship with my childhood friend (which was still stable now, despite some problems arise and go)...

Must I going back into agnosticism again just because some meddlesome priests?

[Furunculus]

Must I going back into agnosticism again just because some meddlesome priests?

nope, but should certainly be wary of that nut-bag priest.

[Pannonian]

but it was all weird anyway... if you ask me to escape again from religion... If you want to know, before deciding to back into Christianity, I was largely agnostic and didn't respect much for the religion... It was my breakup with my muslim girlfriend (caused by external pressures), turned me for a while into a hateful, distressed entity, and at those times, reading the bible again gives me hope and recover, and I even decide to get another relationship with my childhood friend (which was still stable now, despite some problems arise and go)...

Must I going back into agnosticism again just because some meddlesome priests?

Read Schindler's Ark. One of the greatest examples of the individual's ability to decide what is right and wrong in those darkest of times. The serially drinking, gambling, womanising Schindler was a greater holy man than your priest will ever be.

[Rhyfelwyr]

The priest is definitely crossing the line and not doing his duty (are you sure he is a "priest" in a Reformed church anyway, not a minister or something?).

Even if you do believe what you did with the porn was wrong, the priest has no right to be going about things as he is. I would talk with him to sort things out, and if he is still threatening you, just leave and become the one man church of Cute Wolf. Or stir up the congregation and cause a schism, that's what Protestantisms all about!

[Subotan]

LOL
did you have some arguments that tolerate porns at the bible? I sorely need them...

It's a sign you're not gay

[Centurion1]

im not a big porn guy myself so i cant believe you had 100's of gigabytes!!!!!! or were you kidding.

Plus you dont watch another dudes porn man............ thats personal **** right there.

[Hax]

and i can admit im not a perfect human being. which in my mind is the most important thing. i think porn in theory is wrong sort of and i can understand the churchs position on it but i also realize that i am not perfect and have poor self discipline regarding the flesh, and food, and language, and fighting, and oh god whatever im a weak person

Self

Judgment.

Acknowledging your "weakness" (we'd need to first define what it is, exactly) doesn't make it any better.

[Subotan]

and i can admit im not a perfect human being. which in my mind is the most important thing. i think porn in theory is wrong sort of and i can understand the churchs position on it but i also realize that i am not perfect and have poor self discipline regarding the flesh, and food, and language, and fighting, and oh god whatever im a weak person

You can have strong self-discipline and follow all of those things, and still be a bad person, isn't that right Chiang Kai-Shek?

[Belisarius II]

So wait. You took advice to erase your porn from a man whose "masters" have male prostitution rings in the Vatican? Oh the irony.

But still, I say erase it. Who knows, some good might come out of it.

Perhaps it's time to convert to Lutheranism! It is thine destiny!

[Centurion1]

protestants are pretty damn bad about things like this. And i bet you cash money that he is not catholic.

and this thread isnt about myself so i dont need the lectures on my moral conduct.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think you are all being unnecessarily harsh on Centurian. Seld-awareness must come before improvement, and it seems that the people criticising him might not even have got that far.

[Rhyfelwyr]

So wait. You took advice to erase your porn from a man whose "masters" have male prostitution rings in the Vatican? Oh the irony.

Cute Wolf goes to a Dutch Reformed church...