Jesus Dies For Our Sins... How To Ask Him To Erase All The Porn?

[Centurion1]

protestants are pretty damn bad about things like this. And i bet you cash money that he is not catholic.

and this thread isnt about myself so i dont need the lectures on my moral conduct.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think you are all being unnecessarily harsh on Centurian. Seld-awareness must come before improvement, and it seems that the people criticising him might not even have got that far.

[Rhyfelwyr]

So wait. You took advice to erase your porn from a man whose "masters" have male prostitution rings in the Vatican? Oh the irony.

Cute Wolf goes to a Dutch Reformed church...

[Belisarius II]

Cute Wolf goes to a Dutch Reformed church...

Ah, my mistake then. I made the assumtion that, since he was saying priest, that he was either Catholic or G/E Orthodox. Most Protestant and Undenominational churches use the term pastor not priest when referring to the minister. I also probabally should of considered his location as well, not mine, since where I live, there is a large number of Catholics, Irish Catholic to be exact.

But even so, I still say that you'll feel better about yourself if you delete the pics Cute Wolf.

[Beskar]

Perhaps the "Cute Wolf" part worried him.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Ah, my mistake then. I made the assumtion that, since he was saying priest, that he was either Catholic or G/E Orthodox. Most Protestant and Undenominational churches use the term pastor not priest when referring to the minister. I also probabally should of considered his location as well, not mine, since where I live, there is a large number of Catholics, Irish Catholic to be exact.

But even so, I still say that you'll feel better about yourself if you delete the pics Cute Wolf.

"Priest" is a term in curculation in all Episcopal Churches, which includes most Luthern denominations, and all Anglican Ones. It's also appropriate to Methodists and a large number of Reformed Churches, who maintain a Presbyte without an Episcopate.

[Centurion1]

well look at where he lives. indonesia they were colonized (stolen) by the dutch. The Christ men they got were dutch. many dutch are protestants i thought it a safe bet hes protestant. though in such a muslim dominated country its probably easier to find Any christian rather than look for specific denominations.

[Hax]

well look at where he lives. indonesia they were colonized (stolen) by the dutch.

Need I remind you of Okinawa? While I'm not trying to defend the enslavement of the indigenous Indonesian population by the Dutch, I do not think you have any right, as a proud and patriotic defender of a nation that has had quite a dark history for such a young nation, to speak in such a demeaning way.

though in such a muslim dominated country its probably easier to find Any christian rather than look for specific denominations.

Right. Confucianists, Buddhists, Christians as well as Muslims live in Indonesia quite peacefully.

[Centurion1]

Need I remind you of Okinawa? While I'm not trying to defend the enslavement of the indigenous Indonesian population by the Dutch, I do not think you have any right, as a proud and patriotic defender of a nation that has had quite a dark history for such a young nation, to speak in such a demeaning way.

First of all the indonesians did not declare war on the dutch. Second of all the Japanese have benefited from American influence. Third of all i dont believe you are ever allowed to talk about Buddhism because you are a proud buddhist so this

I do not think you have any right, as a proud and patriotic defender of a nation that has had quite a dark history for such a young nation

is a stupid thing to say.

As well i believe that americans are some of the most generous giving welcoming people in the world and we take quite enough flak about everything thank you very much.

As to this.....

ight. Confucianists, Buddhists, Christians as well as Muslims live in Indonesia quite peacefully.

Why dont you think before you post i assume there is enough time to read the post you are assaulting before you respond. At no point at all within my post did i say it was unsafe to be a christian in Indonesia. i simply stated it is probably easier to just be with any christian ratherthan find enough of the same denomination in any one place.

Edit: As well Okinawa is a bloody military base. It is not a colony of American imperialism we do not gain any economic benefits from holding Okinawa we don't use it as a criminal penal colony we don't colonize it with white Anglo Saxon Americans and convert the Japanese forcefully. no we have a naval base.

So unless you have found "unobantanium" on the island i guess this is a rather poor example too. I do hear the american empire is planning a colonization of her lands in Antarctica though.

[Major Robert Dump]

What kind of porn was it? Does your country define obscene by local opinion and standard rather than a national definition? Any way you could argue that it is not porn, but art?

Or, you could say you are writing a book on porn and that is was for research

[Megas Methuselah]

...

Yeah. Yeah, go away please. Oh wait! You think this continent is your home, right? Damn. Nothing I can do about that.

Welcome to Turtle Island, I guess.

[Tuuvi]

Your priest does sound really nosey and you should probably stay away from him. On the issue of the porn I think you should delete all of it. My church teaches that looking at porn is a sin and should be avoided at all costs because of its addictive nature. My church even helps people who have a problem with porn pay to see a licensed psychologist to help them break the addiction, that's how seriously the church takes it.

[Hax]

First of all the indonesians did not declare war on the dutch. Second of all the Japanese have benefited from American influence.

The first is true. The second is very arguable. Very arguable.

Third of all i dont believe you are ever allowed to talk about Buddhism because you are a proud buddhist so this

To Buddhists, pride is useless. Or it should be, at the very least; it's exactly one of those things that should be left behind. Pride suggests an ego, and there is no such thing as ego in Buddhism. I quote:

One of the main obstacles is our pride. This pride is an inflated state of mind and relies on our false view of the transitory collection, which focuses on the existent self, attributed to our body and mind, and distorts it. When we are on top of a very high mountain, we look down on all the lower peaks. Similarly, when we are full of pride, everyone else appears lower. We are the best and everyone else is inferior.

You want to talk about Buddhist persecuting other people? Fine by me. You want to talk about the persecution and exile of Nichiren Daishounin? Fine by me. The enslavement of the Tibetan people by the elite priest class in Buddhist Tibet? No problem. The souhei and yamabushi in Japan? It's really no problem, whatsoever. The discussion of wrong-doings by Buddhists throughout history is not something that is taboo or a topic that should be avoided. I am fully aware of the horrible things that have happened in the name of Buddhism throughout East Asian history. Zen priests paying schoolgirls for sexual favours? It's happened, more than once.

Why dont you think before you post i assume there is enough time to read the post you are assaulting before you respond. At no point at all within my post did i say it was unsafe to be a christian in Indonesia. i simply stated it is probably easier to just be with any christian ratherthan find enough of the same denomination in any one place.

Thinking before I post is one of the things I actively do, thank you very much. The two are interlinked. As you seem to know, Indonesia was occupied by the Dutch, who were protestant. Is it so unlikely to think that there might have been some people who follow that religion that still live there? I don't think so, especially because the Dutch kinda promoted conversion to Christianity in the East Indies.

Edit: As well Okinawa is a bloody military base. It is not a colony of American imperialism we do not gain any economic benefits from holding Okinawa we don't use it as a criminal penal colony we don't colonize it with white Anglo Saxon Americans and convert the Japanese forcefully. no we have a naval base.

No, of course it's not a colony. Not in the traditional sense at least. Yet it has obviously lost its purpose and seriously, with all respects, you should go out of there. Seriously. More than 85% of the Okinawan population are opposed to the military base that you have in Okinawa. I don't see any purpose in staying there.

[Fragony]

Your priest does sound really nosey and you should probably stay away from him. On the issue of the porn I think you should delete all of it. My church teaches that looking at porn is a sin and should be avoided at all costs because of its addictive nature. My church even helps people who have a problem with porn pay to see a licensed psychologist to help them break the addiction, that's how seriously the church takes it.

looks like I am doomed then

[Subotan]

well look at where he lives. indonesia they were colonized (stolen) by the dutch. The Christ men they got were dutch. many dutch are protestants i thought it a safe bet hes protestant. though in such a muslim dominated country its probably easier to find Any christian rather than look for specific denominations.

Of course, everything you just said applies to the Phillipines and the Yankees. And imperialism doesn't just mean owning territory. Cultural, religious and economic imperialism all exist and are arguably part of current American policy.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Did sometimes watching porns is tolerated in proper Christian life?

Wonderful, siggied.

[Ronin]

Your priest does sound really nosey and you should probably stay away from him. On the issue of the porn I think you should delete all of it. My church teaches that looking at porn is a sin and should be avoided at all costs because of its addictive nature. My church even helps people who have a problem with porn pay to see a licensed psychologist to help them break the addiction, that's how seriously the church takes it.

I would suggest you take the advice of your own first sentence...compare it against the attitude of your church...and stay away from that too.

:P

[Pannonian]

What kind of porn was it? Does your country define obscene by local opinion and standard rather than a national definition? Any way you could argue that it is not porn, but art?

Or, you could say you are writing a book on porn and that is was for research

I don't think the priest will get fooled again.

[Centurion1]

Of course, everything you just said applies to the Phillipines and the Yankees. And imperialism doesn't just mean owning territory. Cultural, religious and economic imperialism all exist and are arguably part of current American policy.

Thinking before I post is one of the things I actively do, thank you very much. The two are interlinked. As you seem to know, Indonesia was occupied by the Dutch, who were protestant. Is it so unlikely to think that there might have been some people who follow that religion that still live there? I don't think so, especially because the Dutch kinda promoted conversion to Christianity in the East Indies.

once again....... under 15% of indonesia is christian. meaning there are not so many that i think ther are fully congregated churches all over the place. Most people would probably find it easier to find A church rather than a specific church. that is what im saying.

According to Hax's point Subotan since you are from the country who probably colonized more land than everyone else you are not allowed to talk about this issue at all.

Hax i dont care what buddhism did wrong i was saying that your point since i was a "proud american defender" im not allowed to say anything relating to america or something america may also have done so you are not allowed to talk about religion or buddhism by that token.

[Hax]

According to Hax's point Subotan since you are from the country who probably colonized more land than everyone else you are not allowed to talk about this issue at all.

Hax i dont care what buddhism did wrong i was saying that your point since i was a "proud american defender" im not allowed to say anything relating to america or something america may also have done so you are not allowed to talk about religion or buddhism by that token.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you "tu quoque"! I wasn't talking about anyone speaking about America or anything like that, I was talking about speaking in a demeaning way.

[Centurion1]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you "tu quoque"! I wasn't talking about anyone speaking about America or anything like that, I was talking about speaking in a demeaning way.

i was using what i said to subotan as an example of why what you said to me was ridiculous. and you have made assumptions about me as well in this thread. like assuming i believed it was unsafe to live in Indonesia as a christian.

Yeah. Yeah, go away please. Oh wait! You think this continent is your home, right? Damn. Nothing I can do about that.

Welcome to Turtle Island, I guess.

im going to ignore this.

[Cute Wolf]

Oh yeah... just formatted my hard disk drive and get rid of all those porn..... after thinking much about in the long run... yeah, after someone points out that over 100 GB of porn videos and pictures is not a normal use of porn, I start to think myself addicted to porn... or excessively collect them (although I still think myself is more collector than addicted)...

By the way, he is a evangelist (the same level as priest), who was take charge in the kids and youth sections.... and I allready inform him that I have erase all my porn, for the Easter's sake.... but I decide to kept my games, as I wasn't using them ecessively.

[Tuuvi]

I would suggest you take the advice of your own first sentence...compare it against the attitude of your church...and stay away from that too.

:P

Don't worry my church's attitude is different than Cute Wolf's priest's...If my church leader caught me with porn on my computer I doubt he would act like Cute Wolf's priest, and I don't find anything wrong with advising people not to look at porn. My church telling people not to look at porn is the same thing as a mother telling her child not to touch a hot stove; they believe that porn is harmful, that's why they tell people not to look at it and that's why they try to help people who want to stop.

[Subotan]

According to Hax's point Subotan since you are from the country who probably colonized more land than everyone else you are not allowed to talk about this issue at all. .

We did, yes. I'm not denying that at all. Some of the greatest crimes in history were committed in the name of British imperialism, the numerous famines in British India whilst continued to be exported to Britain being just one out of the hat. I am not arguing that that didn't happen. Rather, I am saying that American conventional imperialism happened in the past [I want no prisoners. I wish you to kill and burn, the more you kill and burn the better it will please me]

[Skullheadhq]

@ Skullheadhq :. but hey... most of them are asian porn...

Oh, I'm fine with that.

But seriously, where in the bible does god say you shouldn't watch porn?



EDIT: Oh noes! I could've added it to my evergrowing collection.

[Beskar]

"And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even[ing]."

[drone]

"And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even[ing]."

That's what being a Protestant's all about. That's why it's the church for me. That's why it's the church for anyone who respects the individual and the individual's right to decide for him or herself. When Martin Luther nailed his protest up to the church door in fifteen-seventeen, he may not have realised the full significance of what he was doing, but four hundred years later, thanks to him, my dear, I can wear whatever I want on my John Thomas... and, Protestantism doesn't stop at the simple condom. Oh, no. I can wear French Ticklers if I want.

[jirisys]

"And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even[ing]."

don't forget menstruate, defecate, and eating "unclean" food too

~Jirisys (first post on the the backroom)

[Cute Wolf]

Don't worry... I've erased them all... but I just realize that I miss all of the good times when I allready erase all of them... but afterwards, I just made a big slot for storing all the mod resources I need to doing my modding.... so everything had a price...