StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

Hundreds? The Wiki page says he only had 4.

[Secura]

It was a valid point to make, though, if somewhat embellished.

Palpatine actually had considerably more than four clones initially, from what I've been told by someone who read the relevant fiction, it's simply that most of them were unfit for use over time.

No matter how many there were, though, it is something to consider; I simply feel that this victory was too easy, and there may be a twist in the plot yet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yoda is the Expedition Leader, which indicates the top pro-town role was assigned based on canon roles, not randomly. I suspect the same is true with the Sith, and I will be very, very surprised if Palpatine was not the top Sith. Beyond those two, the rest of the roles may indeed have been random... but I think it's pretty safe to notch this one up as a score for the Jedi.

Possible he wasn't the top Sith.

If Darth Plagueis is part of the game, then he would be Palpatine's Lord. Or perhaps there are even earlier Sith Lords who would also have seniority.

[Secura]

Yes, there's a possibility of someone such as Exar Kun being in the game, considering we've seen at least Atris from the KOTOR series.

[Greyblades]

When is this game taking place anyway?

[Secura]

A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

[Chaotix]

A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

Excellent answer.

To be more specific, it's set in the future of the future-past where the past has become the future future.

[Husar]

A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

[atheotes]

It looks like it was a good lynch, given the fact that Khaan did not protest. But Palpatine could just be a name. As people have suggested, his lynch was too easy and even in the write-up he accepted his fate quietly. I wouldnt be surprised if Sigurd used these name to stop mass reveals.
We may or may not know more tonight. I for one do not believe the sith rule of 2 is being used in this game....may be they are restricted to 2 kills a night.
Given the number of pro-town abilities i am not sure what to expect from the Sith.

[Niklas]

Yoda is the Expedition Leader, which indicates the top pro-town role was assigned based on canon roles, not randomly. I suspect the same is true with the Sith, and I will be very, very surprised if Palpatine was not the top Sith. Beyond those two, the rest of the roles may indeed have been random... but I think it's pretty safe to notch this one up as a score for the Jedi.

While I certainly agree that what you say makes sense in principle, I really read the update as saying that Palpatine was just an Initiate. I will gladly admit that I'm used to the CFC way, where lynches always reveal, so I may just be expecting too much here. But it sure feels rather anti-climactic if we managed to nail the big baddie, and all we got was the shortest update so far. (No offense to Sigurd of course, still an awesome update, as always!)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It usually isn't revealed in a big way.

[TinCow]

While I certainly agree that what you say makes sense in principle, I really read the update as saying that Palpatine was just an Initiate. I will gladly admit that I'm used to the CFC way, where lynches always reveal, so I may just be expecting too much here. But it sure feels rather anti-climactic if we managed to nail the big baddie, and all we got was the shortest update so far. (No offense to Sigurd of course, still an awesome update, as always!)

Expect a big write-up for the last phase, regardless of who wins and when. Until then, Org hosts like to keep people guessing as to whether they voted correctly. We don't even have autopsy roles very often in games.

[Thermal]

So, you're voting for him because of my analysis and FOS, but you don't care about my subsequent analysis which retracted the accusations against all of them?

The first analysis will do for me.

[seireikhaan]

Beskar, in retrospect I totally would've removed your vigilante ability before I even considered the self-protect. However, I now have the self-protect and I will need it if I survive this round.

I had no idea you were going to be attacked; when you actually told me you were certain of it, I tried to change my order but it was too late.

Also, I am a Grand Master. There is a chance that I will get a revive ability, if there is one. Sigurd in his last pm mentioned more protection-type abilities. Who do you think will be revived if I get that ability?

Dark side o' the force if I ever saw it. Vote: Chaotix

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Dark side o' the force if I ever saw it. Vote: Chaotix

Keep reading...

[Yaropolk]

Lol @ sasaki

[Renata]

Oh Niklas, that little post is going to get you into a world of trouble next round.

It totally is. Poor Niklas. And I'm so very nearly convinced it'll be undeserved. But them's the breaks. Better work on your debating skills, Niklas; seems you'll need them.

I'm truly looking forward to tomorrow's morning update. If it's substantially different, it should be enlightening. If not (which seems unlikely), then that's something too.

[Renata]

Heh, if you're suggesting that my post indicates I'm mafia trying to save khaan, you must have me confused with someone stupid.

I am not yet fully convinced Palpatine was Sith, hopefully the night will tell and there will be one less kill. I agree that it is very hard to picture him as a Jedi though. But if it turns out that he was Sith, I might be so inclined as to look for his friend among those now joining in to "celebrate" his demise, and joining the wagon on AVSM when khaan still only had a few votes on him. Yes Diamondeye, I'm looking at you.

There's a start, and a good one.

[Renata]

Oh boy just read Khaan's post. Hee.

@ Secura -- who knows? But possibilities like that are why I'm so much looking forward to the morning update. Pretty much whatever happens will be really interesting.

[atheotes]

Keep reading...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dark side o' the force if I ever saw it. Vote: Chaotix

Ladies and gentlemen, he's clearly posting this to either pretend that he's got no idea what's going on, or to joke. It's clever but it's also a de facto admission of guilt, if I know Khaan.

[White_eyes:D]

White_eyes made a soft claim that we were forcing him to reveal.

No, I have proof in this case...

Okay true, but nobody said that openly, for it felt like people didn't believe W_E even after he role-claimed.
Which reminds me, now that we know what Beskar claims to be, Vote: White_Eyes:D! So what are you then?

That is just bullying...I will not answer for it

[naut]

No, I have proof in this case...

That is just bullying...I will not answer for it

More soft claiming.

[White_eyes:D]

More soft claiming.

And what is "soft claiming" when we all have roles?

I didn't say my role was powerful or anything, I just said I didn't want another "Rift War's White_eyes:D incident"

[Husar]

Soft claiming is like soft ice, sweet and uhm, soft and yeah!!!

[White_eyes:D]

Soft claiming is like soft ice, sweet and uhm, soft and yeah!!!

Then it was kick- what I did....so, no complaints there then

[Subotan]

The first analysis will do for me.

All the claims that you make about my "suspiciousness" interestingly all apply to you. You accuse me of acting the same as I did in Mafia IX. Since I happen to know exactly how I acted in Mafia IX, let's take a look at my strategy.

• I tried to coast by, keeping just above the "Soon-to-be-WOG'd" line.
• Excusing my lack of posts with IRL events/metagaming.
• Dismissing claims against me with inane comments, or disdain.
• Not joining in the bandwagon on Chaotix, instead preferring some random other player, so it wouldn't look like I was trying too hard to stop a lynch on Chaotix.
• One word posts to make it look like I was involved in the game and thinking really really hard about how to help the townies win.
• Not providing any justification for my votes, referring to either analysis that other people have made, or instead mysteriously providing no evidence for my line of thinking, thus ensuring that my comments, and therefore that I, would not come under any scrutiny.

Now, let's take a look at your posting record, for giggles.

• Very small number of posts, given your reputation for being an active player.
• Excusing that small number of posts with external events/metagaming
• Dismissing concerns raised about you with disdain (See: The first analysis will do for me.)
• Not joining in the bandwagon against 'Khaan, or the next most likely lynch (AVSM).
• One word posts which make it look like you are involved in the game and thinking really really really hard about how to help us win (E.g. "Terrible")
• Not providing any justification for your votes (See your vote for me whilst criticising Chaotix), referring to either analysis that other people have made, or instead mysteriously providing no evidence for your line of thinking, thus ensuring that your comments, and therefore that you would not come under any scrutiny.

I don't know what the rest of the town thinks, but it looks to me like you are accusing me of behaving in a manner similar to my behaviours in Mafia IX in the hopes of defusing any criticism that might develop about your own posting style later in the game. I have resisted the temptation thus far to lodge a vote against your scummy behaviour for fear of your shrill cries of "OMGUS", but I now know exactly where my next vote is going tomorrow.

[Joooray]

That is just bullying...I will not answer for it

I was wondering if you skipped that. I was just trying to tickle your sensitive spot. So, what are you then?

[Andres]

Subotan raises valid points about Thermal Mercury

[Beskar]

Interesting why Yaseikhaan was so obsessed with lynching me. He was Palatine.

Told you the Sith were hiding in the votes against me.