Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

[Skullheadhq]

What about some textured symbols, like this one:

[Cute Wolf]

BTW, what about this Jawara unit concept (soory if it was a rough pic)..... I think the dual swordsmen animation from some certain mods can be used as reversed grip swordsmen like this... but if the model can't made in reverse grip, then we'll use normal grip

[plutoboyz]

BTW, what about this Jawara unit concept (soory if it was a rough pic)..... I think the dual swordsmen animation from some certain mods can be used as reversed grip swordsmen like this... but if the model can't made in reverse grip, then we'll use normal grip

Nusantara Online! its makadga(swordsmen)

the concept is ahistorical to me

[Rahwana]

Nusantara Online! its makadga(swordsmen)

the concept is ahistorical to me

yupz, maybe they are playing RO too many times, so they made that just like an assassin

[Rahwana]

and Wolf, please update your unit description...

[plutoboyz]

yupz, maybe they are playing RO too many times, so they made that just like an assassin

yep, they forgot bracer, armring, sandal and siger. their samping is not like that, it would limit your movement if you wrap it like that, and the necklace, its for noble.

[Cute Wolf]

btw, I waiting Tosa's reply on my PM.... we'll have our own forum soon, as discussing everything in 2 thread (in forge and in mod discussion), become less handy... and our dev forum in forumotion is for more private discussion

anyway, to stop Romaphiloi sonic from whinning about my works, here's the short descriptions about Javanese soldiers:

Javanese-Sundanese Peasants (sickles) = Tani
short:
Villager force, have no formal training in battle, but their sickles is heavy enough to puncture most armour rather easily, and pissed off peasant mob could be more far more dangerous than real fighting force, depends in the right circumstance or leadership!

Javanese Militia (tombak) = Kroco
short:
Kroco forces are commonly drawn fom peasants and urban poors, given cheap spears and mass produced bamboo shields each. For most of the part, they are only told to march and obey simple orders, as their skill with spears is doubtful, and their courage is only marginally better than untrained peasants.

Javanese Watchmen (archer-golok) = Jogo Karyo
short:
Well armed force of militia, equipped with simple bamboo flatbows, and have some martial training to fought in melee effectively with their golok and bamboo shields. These men are common sights in medieval Javanese army, usually serve as front line light infantry.

Java-Sunda Feudal Spearmen (javelin-overhead tombak) = Prajurit Tumbak
short:
These men are flexible line infantry, common rank and file warriors of both Javanese and Sundanese army. They are capable to fight with their tombak spears, and their javelins are handy to soften enemy ranks before the clash.

Javanese Feudal Swordsmen (parang) = Prajurit Pamedhang
short:
Swordsmen are the primary close combat line infantry of the Javanese army. Armed with quality parang longswords, they are capable mount a furious infantry charge to break the enemy line.

Java-Sunda Feudal Archers (archer-golok) = Prajurit Panah
short:
Equipped with good quality helmets, quilted leather armour, and trained in archery. These soldiers are best used as archers, but could fight in melee if necessary, thanks to their heavy equipments.

Bintara Pikemen (pike-keris) = Tentoro Tumbak Dowo
short:
Bintara pikemen mostly comes from the ranks of militia, but they are well trained by muslim Chinese advisors. They won't be easy to break, even when largely outnumbered, as long as their bristling walls of pike could take care most of them.

Majapahit Axemen (2handed kapak) = Prajurit Kampak Blambangan
short:
Vicious shock infantry of the Ancient Majapahit army, armed with two handed axe, and paint their body with pattern made of blood. They are expected to charge and break the enemy line with their sheer strength and vicious intimidation.

Melayu-Palemb-Bintr Arab Swordsmen (scimitars) = Laskar Arab
short:
Arabic troops are no foreigner in the army of the Islamic kingdoms. They are drawn from substantial Arab population, well armoured and equipped in middle eastern style. They are largely disciplined and professional fighting force, as they fought for both common religious cause as well as generous payment.

Javanese "Saka" Heavy Spearmen (overhead tombakkeris) = Pagerwesi
short:
Well armoured heavy infantry, wearing partial plate armour, carying large round shield covered with steel, and armed with exceptional keris-headed tombak spears. These soldiers are best used to fought in very dense formation, capable to grind enemy troops in almost unbreakable wall of steel shields.

Majapahit Armoured Macemen (gada) = Prajurit Godhowesi
short:
Specialist heavy infantry, clad in heavy scale armour, carry large steel covered shield, and armed with godho mace to smash their enemies. These men are de facto cataphracts on foot, and equally capable to break enemy line with a forious charge, or grind enemy troops in very dense formations.

Javanese Knights / Pendekar (2handed keris swords) = Pandhekar
short:
Expert in the field of martial arts, perfected in lifetime training. Pandhekar is easily counted as the best and the most inspiring warriors, as they are often chivalrous warriors, ready to give their life for a good cause. Of course, their large two handed swords are another good reason to respect them.

Bintara Sultan's Chinese Guards (crossbow-scimitar) = Punggawa Cino
short:
These elite soldiers are drawn solely from the ranks of muslim Chinese. Their deeply shared religious passion, coupled with the fact that they are outsider and can't hope to wield the power by themself, made them a respectful, multi purpose elites with their skills in chinese crossbows and scimitars.

Javanese Noble Knights / Satria (keris panjang) = Satriyo
short:
The nobility, who devoted themself in lifetime training of martial arts, are among the most important leading parts of the Javanese army. These men command respect and admiration from their underlings, and given the fact that they are nobles, they also had acess to expensive armoury as well.

Majapahit Royal Shadowguards (overhead tombakkeris) = Bhayangkara
short:
The true elite of Keraton Majapahit, practically fearless, and their martial skills made them command fears in their enemies' hearts. Bhayangkara fought as elite force of guards, capable to grind enemy troops in very dense formations, or spread out and kill multitude of enemies in individual fights.

Javanese Raider-Scouts (cavarchers-cavshortswords) = Telik Sandi
short:
Drawn from the horse owners, Telik Sandi are primarily employed for scout and harassment duties. In the battlefield, it was them who first checked the enemy position, harass and pick off important enemy units and officers with their bows, kill separated and weakned enemy troops, and chase off routers.

Javanese-Sriwj Feudal Cavalry (cavarchers-cavlswords) = Prajurit Tumpak Jaran
short:
Traditionally better segment of Javanese file soldiers, reasonably well armoured, and capable in both role as horse archers and heavy close combat cavalry. These men are important offensive parts of Majapahit-Sriwijayan army.

Javanese Noble Cataphract (cavarchers-cavlswords) = Turanggawesi
short:
Wearing heavy scale armour, frightening war masks, and riding half armoured horses, Turanggawesi are nobles, they fought as cataphract archers, expected to soften enemy ranks with their arrows, and closing in and hack through the enemy line afterwards. They are expected to deal the deciding blows in the battle.

Javanese Cataphract Lancers (lancers-cavlswords) = Satriyo Turanggawesi
short:
Close combat cataphracts, clad in beautiful, yet exceptionally sturdy armour, befitting the heirs of ancient Indo-Saka cataphracts. These men wear frightening war masks to intimmidate enemy troops, and could be expected to break most enemy battle line rather easily, deciding the fate of most battles.

Javanese Elite Cataphracts (cavarchers-lancers) = Satriyo Priyayi
short:
The royal troops of Javanese kingdoms, clad in beautiful, yet exceptionally sturdy armour, with frightening war masks. Carrying bows to kill the enemies from afar, and keris headed lance, to break enemy line into submission, as well as fight in melee. As cataphract, they are expected to deal the deciding blows.

Javanese Chariots (chariot-archers) = Kreto Tempur
short:
Chariots may be an outdated war machine, but blade covered chariots, coupled with archers to pick the enemies from afar, is still the best choice to cut and break enemy cavalry forces, as well as softening enemy line before the chariot charges afterwards.

Native Forest Worker Elephants (elephant-javelin) = Prajurit Gajah
short:
Abundance of elephants that was used in daily economic activities, means that they could be drafted into military usage too. These men and beasts are actually not a real soldiers, as the elephants are more comfortable to pulling logs and tear down woods, rather than trampling humans and ramming gates.

Javanese Armoured War Elephants (elephant-javelin) = Gajah Wesi
short:
Real war elephants are rarity in Javanese land, but when it was really required, will come with the best things available to protect the elephants, because properly trained war elephants are both time consuming to train and exspensive. A heavy armour, made of steel scales, seems worth to protect the beast!

[Rahwana]

Good, but don't they use HUMAN blood for made sacred war paints on Pasukan Kampak Blambangan?

[plutoboyz]

What about some textured symbols, like this one:

hey skull, can you made it like EB Nomad style? I think it would be awesome. if needed I can send you the unedited file.

[plutoboyz]

here, short description for Pajajaran:

Javanese-Sundanese Peasants (sickles) = Tani
Villager force, have no formal training in battle, but their sickles is heavy enough to puncture most armor rather easily, and pissed off peasant mob could be more far more dangerous than real fighting force, depends in the right circumstance or leadership!

Sundanese Watchmen (golok) = Wado
Originally Wado/Wadwa, are soldier who act as watchmen. they are numerous. using Golok as primary weapon, Wado are swift, light, cheap infantry.

Java-Sunda Feudal Spearmen (javelin-overhead tombak) = Prajurit Tumbak
These men are flexible line infantry, common rank and file warriors of both Javanese and Sundanese army. They are capable to fight with their tombak spears, and their javelins are handy to soften enemy ranks before the clash.

Java-Sunda Feudal Archers (archer-golok) = Prajurit Panah
Equipped with good quality helmets, quilted leather armor, and trained in archery. These soldiers are best used as archers, but could fight in melee if necessary, thanks to their heavy equipments.

Sundanese Feudal Swordsmen (parang) = Pamarang
Behold! this is Pamarang, Using a curved sword that can be used as a superb slashing weapon and also can disarm enemy weapon with it. this is a fine soldier, trained well, fierce in battlefield.

Sundanese Jawara (double golok) = Jawara
Jawara are champion. they are best of the best in their region. they fight as mercenary. they trained with martial art. they also have knowledge of Kanuragan. literally; inner power.

Sundanese Elite Watchmen (javelin-tombak) = Bayangkara
Bayangkara, unlike Majapahit's Bhayangkara. Bayangkara are weaker. they act as law enforcer and regional guard as well. they use Tumbak, a spear that can be thrown when necessary.

Sundanese Royal Spearmen (tombakkujang) = Balamati
Balamati. Royal army of Pajajaran. Balamati is backbone of Pajajaran infantry. They are Maharaja favorite army. they fight only for Pajajaran and will die for it. Balamati are fine soldier, with extreme quality of morale. Balamati never fled, they fight to death.

Sundanese Royal Bladesmen (javelin-kujang) = Balamati Kujang
Balamati are threat to enemy, this Balamati are nightmare. unlike traditional Balamati, this Balamati wield a special sacred weapon named Kujang Jago. its a small curved blade, but it could kill you with a small scratch.

Sundanese Warrior-Priest Swordsmen (parang) = Kasatrya Pamarang Purgabaya
Puragabaya, as a true elite of Pajajaran. Puragabaya is not only great warrior, but also a wise priest. trained in religion as well as military knowledge. this Puragabaya wield a sword. it can be used as a superb slashing weapon and also can disarm enemy weapon with it

Sundanese Warrior-Priest Bladesmen (javelin-kujang) = Kasatrya Kujang Purgabaya
This Puragabaya are special. they go to battle field with their Kujang. Kujang is a small curved blade, but it could kill you with a small scratch. this is most deadly close combat weapon in Pajajaran.

Sundanese Elite Warrior-Priest (2handed tombakkujang) = Kasatrya Purgabaya
Puragabaya, as a true elite of Pajajaran. Puragabaya is not only great warrior, but also a wise priest. trained in religion as well as military knowledge. this Puragabaya armed with Kujang Pangarak, a Kujang used as pole arm weapon. it has better reach than standard kujang.

factional cavalry:
Sundanese Light Cavalry (cavjav-lancers) = Prajurit Tumpak Kuda
This Lancer are swift cavalry using Tumbak to harass enemy before charge enemy. they are light armored cavalry that best used in Hit and Run tactic.

Sundanese Royal Horsemen (cavparang) = Balamati Tumpak Kuda
besides as heavy infantry, they also trained in horsemanship as well. although Sunda not focused on cavalry combat, this cavalry still good. they are fine close combat cavalry, because they not using spear, but Sunda Sword.

Sundanese Warrior-Priest Cav (cavjav-kujanglancers) = Kasatrya Kuda Purgabaya
Puragabaya Cavalry are the best horseman in Sunda. they can harass enemy with their javelin, they also have furious charge, and great close combat skill. they use Kujang Pangarak as their weapon of choice. it could kill you even with a small scratch.

Sundanese Chariot (chariot-archers) = Kereta Kuda
Kareta Kuda, are a chariot archer. but what makes them different is they have a spearman for close combat. a good mobile archer and fine close combat cavalry.

Native Forest Worker Elephants (elephant-javelin) = Prajurit Gajah
Abundance of elephants that was used in daily economic activities, means that they could be drafted into military usage too. These men and beasts are actually not a real soldiers, as the elephants are more comfortable to pulling logs and tear down woods, rather than trampling humans and ramming gates.

Sundanese War Elephants (elephant-javelin) = Pasukan Gajah Siliwangi
Our great Sri Baduga Maharaja Siliwangi have reformed our kingdom. he create an elephant corps. used mainly for break enemy formation. its Javelin are fine armor piercing weapon. its protect the beast from light infantry.

[jirisys]

No longer busy... able to help

~Jirisys (200& post)

[Nyz]

Kulaan niring napa takuhiring!!!

Portuguese Military Academy:

Well, 1st Portuguese Military Academy was established in 1641; anyway here the historical name of the academy:

a) Aula de Artilharia e Esquadria (1641) : [lecture of artillery and miter]
b) Aula de Fortificação e Arquitectura Militar (1647) : [Class of Fortification and Military Architecture]
c) Academia Militar da Corte (1700) : [The Royal Military Academy]
d) Academia Real de Fortificação, Artilharia e Desenho (1790) : [Royal Academy of Fortification, Artillery and Design]
e) Escola do Exército (1837) : [Army School]
f) Escola de Guerra (1911-1919) : [War College]
g) Escola Militar (1919-1938) : {Military school]
h) Academia Militar (1959) : [Military Academy]


Proceed to translate civilian building, 1 st start with market:

a) Gerai (trader/stall)
b) Pesara (street of the merchant)
c) Pasar (Market)
d) Gedung dan gudang (Supermarket and warehouse)
e) Kampung Saudagar (merchant quarter)

[Cute Wolf]

I've made the lastest updates of unit lists, as well as "Inlander" native levies for europeans... this was not too neat, but you can take a look... (dang, the ORG attachment have some problem uploading, so I'll use this)

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...8&d=1274075768

[Nyz]

Inlander = Orang Hulu / orang darat (as opposite of orang laut)
If they are native people (aborigines) , we can called them Orang Asli.

Inlander Archers (archer-golok) = Pemanah Hulu / Pemanah Orang Hulu
Inlander Horsemen = Penunggang Kuda Orang Hulu

Melayu Regular Gunners (gun-golok) = Pegawai Istinggar
Melayu Turkish Gunners (gun-scimitars) = Laskar Ispinggar (not istinggar)
Melayu Sultan's Royal Gunners (gun-scimitars) = Awinan Astenggar

Melayu-Sriwj Recr Cav Bodyguards (lancers-cavmaces) = Ceteria

[plutoboyz]

I've made the lastest updates of unit lists, as well as "Inlander" native levies for europeans... this was not too neat, but you can take a look... (dang, the ORG attachment have some problem uploading, so I'll use this)

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...8&d=1274075768

umm.. wolf, Jawara should be weaker than Balamati

[Nyz]

hehehe... just language jokes. Haji mean King

example: Haji Pakuan = King of Pakuan

yeah, but it was the language of later times, right

Well, Srivijaya's inscription of Telaga Batu also stated Haji as king...

king of Islam domonated areas, to be precise

Telaga Batu inscription date back to 686 AD, are there influenced Islam area around Sumatera at that time?

[plutoboyz]

Telaga Batu inscription date back to 686 AD, are there influenced Islam area around Sumatera at that time?

well, Muslim are in sumatra since the third caliph Uthman. but word Haji older than muslim history. besides, its has different meaning. the word Hajj mean traveling, while the word Haji mean King. later replaced by Prabu, Paduka etc...

[Nyz]

So, the word "Haji (=king)" is irrelevant with Islam influence?

[plutoboyz]

So, the word "Haji (=king)" is irrelevant with Islam influence?

me think so. it just spelling similarity. not much Arabs in Nusantara before Islam, IIRC, Haji (Usually "Ratu Haji")date back to Tarumanagara.

and I never heard muslim ruler called "Haji" (except maybe for those who have done pilgrimage to Makka). more commonly, Sultan, Shah, Padishah, Bey, Malik, etc.

[Nyz]

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