Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Well, Obama said he wanted to stop the contractual agreement involving BP, as in, British Pensioners, by stopping Beyond-Petroleums dividends.
He also called it British Petroleum, when 2/3rd's of its staff are American, even the board of the directors, trying to sweep up an anti-British mood to look though and gain support for the November elections and other such popularist American rabble nonsense.
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Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Now you're getting it.Originally Posted by Beskar
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
Down with dried flowers!
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Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Oh, not like Obama's rhetoric so much any more now that you're on the receiving end?
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
You mean, using the same rhetoric Bush used?Oh, not like Obama's rhetoric so much any more now that you're on the receiving end?
CR
Plus, your point is invalid as it assumes I loved his rhetoric when I haven't, I only said it is a positive improvement over Bush in the past.
Last edited by Beskar; 06-11-2010 at 20:23.
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Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
How is it "rhetoric" to refer to BP as British Petroleum?
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Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
They changed their name, officially, to just 'BP' a while back.
Well that's got nothing to do with anything.You mean, using the same rhetoric Bush used?
No, I said 'liked', not loved. And it was not intended as serious debate.Plus, your point is invalid as it assumes I loved his rhetoric when I haven't, I only said it is a positive improvement over Bush in the past.
Generally yes.Populism, of any kind, suxxorz.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Much like your snippy backhanded 'contribution' which was inaccurate in the first place?
I could call you out on this, but I will just say you ill-advisely stated it, simply because I have a preference for Democrat over Republican in the two-party state or think he is currently doing a better job than Bush jr did.No, I said 'liked', not loved. And it was not intended as serious debate.
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Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Actually, to be fair to you Beskar, you've always struck me as one of those Euros who prefer Obama to Bush and the American Right, while at the same time classifying Obama as a Moderate or Moderate-Conservative by your own standards/goals.
Now, on to the other hat:
CR, Beskar:
If you two simply must continue to snipe at one another, take it to PM please.
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Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Very easy to answer.
BP is known as BP. And yes indeed, they used to be named British Petroleum, but no more. BP is nowadays very "multinational", and I do believe it is more US controlled (don't have exact figures at hand, so might be wrong, anyone?).
However, by using the phrase British Petroleum instead of BP he tried to shift the burden of guilt over to jolly good old England. A jab in the nuts for the commonwealth.
Basically, cheap rhetorics to blame-shift - "Don't look at me, they did it!"
The sad thing is that many (if not most?) Americans will fall into such cheap traps, and disregard questions such as how could WE have let this happen in the first place. Please do bear in mind exactly where this happened and under what legislation, to try to blame-shift Britain seems feeble, to say the least.
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What's a TV? Its a television. What's a PC? Its a personal computer. What's a BP? Why, sir, its British Petroleum. Everyone knows this, its not a secret. Regardless of what they are "officially" called, BP still stands for British Petroleum. They are one and the same, and anyone trying to look into more into the phrasing is doing so with an agenda at heart. Tell me, have you seen anyone blame the commonwealth for the spill? Any? And yes, I believe this is at the fault of BP. Their property, not the US Gov't. Blaming legislation for the what was a failure by the company is a cheap cop-out.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Where to start on this one...
A TV is a television, I give you that one. Well done you! I applaud your effort.
However, BP is not a short form of British Petroleum, although it was up until the year 2000.
BP became very much international, currently only 40% of shareholders are British.
As they changed the name from British Petroleum to BP they also coined a new corporate slogan, "Beyond Petroleum". Short form of that would be BP.
So, so much for your endearing claim.
As to the second part of your post, the one in bold - one might argue that legislation exist to put a leash on company's such as BP, you know, to keep them from (as a strictly theoretical example, of course) cause huge amounts of damage.
Thank you for your time though, it is refreshing to hear from someone else than my intellectual friends.
Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 06-12-2010 at 04:14.
Re: The Dead Zone (or, BP and the Oil Well That Keeps on Giving)
Populism, of any kind, suxxorz.Oh, not like Obama's rhetoric so much any more now that you're on the receiving end?
CR
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