Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 2

GeneralHankerchief

06-06-2008, 21:14

All right, enough celebrating.

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. The birds had returned since the unexpected disturbance of their morning routine yesterday, although they were not singing, as if wary that there would be a similiar breaking of the silence today. The fact that the Chief of Police had spent the previous night looking out the window overlooking his car, clutching his hunting rifle, probably didn't help things either.

The mood of the birds of the Frontroom was a microcosm for the mood of the village as a whole: Normal, but cautious. Yes, they had lynched one of their own the previous night. Yes, Beirut had done so with the most inhumane procedure any of them had ever heard of, especially in the Kingdom of Peace and Love. Yes, the townspeople were confident in their choice.

But... there was still the possibility that they were wrong.

It didn't bother Andres enough to keep him from his own morning jogging routine, however. After all, what was a potential mafia attack with the consequences reaching the possibility of the total extinction of his peaceful little town when compared with the maintenance of his fitness regimen?

To be fair, it helped that he jogged on the other side of town from Tratorix's usual route. Andres went the scenic way, spending quite a bit of time in the Frontroom Park, far away from the alleyway which, by this point, had been sealed off.

He jogged past the lake, with its many ducks and trace amounts of osmium, around the Frontroom cliffs with its extremely pointy rocks at the bottom, back to the lake where, sitting on a bench that looked like it hadn't been there before, was a man, impeccably dressed, wearing a fedora and trenchcoat and waving at Andres.

Andre, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man. "Excellent morning for running, I do say," he said aimiably.

"They all are," Andres said.

"Indeed," said the man. "Allow me to recommend a beautiful route up in the hills, if you're up for a change of scenery."

"The hills, eh?" Andres panted. "Maybe it is time to adjust my route. I'll have to try that sometime."

"I'm afraid you won't be able to," the man said, whipping out his revolver and blasting Andres, all with an apologetic smile on his face. Andres's lifeless corpse rolled into the lake, the ducks having already made room for him by flying away upon the sound of the mafioso's gunshot.

Craterus, deep in the Frontroom marshes, watched the ducks fly away with his high-powered binoculrs. They were headed right for him, probably to make themselves comfortable in their second habitat now that the lake in the park (and the many breadcrumbs to go with it) had been disturbed.

He took his own hunting rifle and prepared to make a kill... but decided against it. If he shot one of them now then the others might pass by him entirely, headed for perhaps another habitat. No, better to let them rest, lull them in a false sense of security... and then pick them off with the help of his trusty decoy.

So he watched as the ducks landed in the marshes and spread out... and lied in wait.

Time passed...

Thirty minutes...

...an hour...

Finally, he was ready. The decoy had been set afloat and one particular mallard was now interested in it, swimming over to it to further examine it. Craterus had his gun ready, the duck in his sights, his finger on the trigger...

BBBB-BRBBTA-BRBBTA-BRAWWWWWWW!!!

Startled at this new sounds, all the ducks flew away. Craterus, totally concentrated on getting the duck by the decoy, was taken totally by surprise and missed any chance he had at nabbing any of the ducks. Cursing silently, he waited as the sound drew closer.

The sound in question was a motorboat, strangely being piloted by a fully-dressed man, heading right for him.

"You idiot!" Craterus shouted when the man in the motorboat was close enough. "You made me miss my ducks! I had been lying in wait for over an hour!"

"And lie you shall do some more," the man said, pumping his shotgun and sending Craterus into the quickly-dirtying water.

"At least there was one kill in the marshes today," the man said as he piloted his boat back to civilization.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut had gathered the remaining villagers into the town square in order to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "today there has been two more kills, both concerning the ducks of the Frontroom. The poor creatures got so startled at listening to two separate gunshots that one of them FLEW RIGHT INTO MY BAY WINDOW!!! Do you realize how much those things cost?! That was imported glass, too..."

"Who was murdered?" somebody asked.

"Andres and Craterus," Beirut said with a dismissive wave of his hand. "Thus, we will have to begin the lynching process again. I have a couple of notes, though. First of all, due to all the property damage caused by these murders - namely, my property being damaged - a $2000 fine will be imposed in addition to execution. Second of all, I received a note from the OBI (the .Org Bureau of Investigation, that is) saying that killing somebody via a rusty knife, live burial, and tarantulas is inhumane and thus, illegal. So scaring the mafia is out."

"Wait a minute, the OBI tells us ways we can't kill people but won't help us out with this mafia problem?"

"I have no idea what you're talking about," Beirut said. "Get voting!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (33)
Ichigo
RoadKill
TinCow
Elite Ferret
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
LittleGrizzly
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
peverpink
Sarathos
Mithrandir
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
TevashSzat
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Crazed Rabbit
Fenring
Lord Winter
CountArach
Kommodus
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero
Kagemusha
georgeman51
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus

Executed:
Privateerkev

woad&fangs

06-06-2008, 21:21

It's not legal to shoot ducks with a :daisy: rifle!

Vote: Factionheir

Craterus

06-06-2008, 21:25

Hunting? What was I thinking? I would never go hunting. :inquisitive:
Good luck town. My early suspicions of the mafia, in no particular order:

TinCow, Elite Ferret, FactionHeir and who knows what Sasaki is up to.

Kagemusha

06-06-2008, 21:35

Whats with Osmium and ducks? Sounds to me that the mafia is trying to deliberately confuse us with their descriptions.So lets vote someone who is good at writing descriptions. Vote: Seamus

FactionHeir

06-06-2008, 21:42

My guess would be makaikhaan (Andres voted him and got killed) or LittleGrizzly (R1 suspicious) still.
As I said previously, I still think RK and Kage may be innocent.

For now, vote: makaikhaan

Privateerkev

06-06-2008, 21:52

Look into EF guys.

He did a pointless FoS on Craterus. Plus, throwing suspicion on someone you know will be killed is a well know WIFOM.

woad&fangs

06-06-2008, 22:01

My guess would be makaikhaan (Andres voted him and got killed)...

You think that makaikhaan killed Andres because of a meatball vote?!:laugh4:

My vote stays

Seamus Fermanagh

06-06-2008, 22:21

Birds! You're linking theme is BIRDS!

GH, you are a scamp. :laugh4:

Wonder what this Beirut will do if someone gigs his puppy? :devilish:

shlin28

06-06-2008, 22:23

Vote: LittleGrizzly

Thingy from first round + my instinct tells me he is one of 2/33 people we are looking for...

woad&fangs

06-06-2008, 22:27

Shlin, anything in particular from the first round that makes him seem scummy?

Privateerkev

06-06-2008, 22:30

I'm torn on LG.

On one hand, he seems to be posting more than in Taormina. Which seems a little suspicious.

On the other, his posts almost seem too argumentative to be mafia. The back and forth about math just seems out of character for someone who is trying to hide amongst the crowd.

So he is either trying to be more involved in this game in order to be a helpful townie, or it is because he's trying hard to "not" act like the stereotypical mafia.

Right now, I would lean towards the former.

Ferret

06-06-2008, 23:08

Eh I thought Shlin told me Craterus was already dead. Man I am bad at this game, oh well

vote:Ichigo

for not allowing himself to belong to ferrets :P

seireikhaan

06-06-2008, 23:09

Vote: Elite Ferret

For that ludicrous 3rd vote on the PK bandwagon last round. Also, for still being goofy after the first round of voting.

EDIT:

Tally:

FactionHeir 1(Woad&Fangs)
Seamus: 1(Kagemusha)
Makaikhaan: 1(FactionHeir)
LittleGrizzly: 1(Shlin28)
Ichigo: 1(Elite Ferret)
Elite Ferret: 1(makaikhaan)
Sasaki: 1(Ichigo)

Csargo

06-06-2008, 23:15

Vote:Sasaki again...

Privateerkev

06-06-2008, 23:17

For that ludicrous 3rd vote on the PK bandwagon last round. Also, for still being goofy after the first round of voting.

EF is acting very different from Taormina. In Taormina, where he was a Townie, he basically made short, yet thoughtful posts semi-often. (about once a day phase)

Vote:Sasaki again...

Ok, I can understand doing it the first turn every game for laughs. But again? What exactly has Sasaki done this game to have you paying attention to him for more than your usual customary turn?

Beefy187

06-07-2008, 01:12

This might have been said before but...

Can mafia kill two players if they are down to one players?
Sorry if this has been said. I got no time to go through all post just yet..

GeneralHankerchief

06-07-2008, 01:13

Yes.

Two players will be killed on every night.

pevergreen

06-07-2008, 01:22

Vote: Beefy

You know that beefy. I know you know that.

And on top of all of that, why are you not getting ready for our soccer match?

Sarathos

06-07-2008, 02:20

Look into EF guys.
He did a pointless FoS on Craterus. Plus, throwing suspicion on someone you know will be killed is a well know WIFOM.
Why? As he said he was just having some fun. I do stuff like that all that time (and a lot worse) and I always get wrongfully lynched.

I am going to Vote:Shlin
You were one of only three talking in the last night phase. You FOSed EF for FOSing Craterus and then Craterus dies. A set up to make EF looke guilty perhaps....?

This might have been said before but...
Can mafia kill two players if they are down to one players?
Sorry if this has been said. I got no time to go through all post just yet..
Beefy, you have been on the .Org longer than me, ago you are more experienced, and even I know this so of course you would. Plus I am pretty sure you have done it when you have been mafia, whats gives?

And on top of all of that, why are you not getting ready for our soccer match?
The question is, are you?

Tratorix

06-07-2008, 06:31

I think EF is rather suspicious. I don't recall him ever being this silly in any previous games. Seems like he's trying very hard to seem nonchalant about everything.

Privateerkev

06-07-2008, 06:33

I think EF is rather suspicious. I don't recall him ever being this silly in any previous games. Seems like he's trying very hard to seem nonchalant about everything.

Exactly. Where Sarathos does it all the time, I have never seen EF quite like this. Even in the throne room. It's almost like he is going out of his way to be "goofy".

Go through his posts in order.

1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937232#post1937232) 2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937294#post1937294) 3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937331#post1937331) 4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937385#post1937385) 5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937505#post1937505) 6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937508#post1937508) 7 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1937526#post1937526) 8 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1938063#post1938063) 9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1939330#post1939330) 10 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1939396#post1939396) 11 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1939932#post1939932) 12 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1939959#post1939959) 13 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1939978#post1939978) 14 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1940206#post1940206)

Csargo

06-07-2008, 06:44

Ok, I can understand doing it the first turn every game for laughs. But again? What exactly has Sasaki done this game to have you paying attention to him for more than your usual customary turn?

A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues.

~;)

Crazed Rabbit

06-07-2008, 07:13

vote: Kagemusha

He well knows, since winning GH's first mafia, of the history of the mafia games. Some of that included a person drowning after being weighted down with osmium. He also knows that GH adds a lot of his own storytelling to the descriptions.

The reasoning for the vote on Seamus seems very thrown together, more of a fake attempt at good reasoning than a genuine assessment. I would expect better logic from someone like him.

CR

Beefy187

06-07-2008, 08:19

Vote: Beefy

You know that beefy. I know you know that.

And on top of all of that, why are you not getting ready for our soccer match?

Im just checking. Am I not allowed to check anymore? My parents always told me to check even its the most obvious thing.. Besides if I was a mafia I wouldnt even have to ask that...

And im was already ready, destination is like 20 minutes away and post was made like 1 hour before the game fool!

Vote: EF

While I dont completely trust PK, he does seem to be the safest bet for now.

Ferret

06-07-2008, 11:14

Sure lynch away I'm not much use to the town anyway. I don't think I've ever done anything useful in any game that I've been a townie...

shlin28

06-07-2008, 11:23

FoS EF for FoSing a dead guy...

I FoSed EF because he FoSed PK, never did I FoS EF because he FoSed Craterus...

So Sarathos' reason for voting me is null and void :beam:

Gaius Scribonius Curio

06-07-2008, 11:51

Vote:FactionHeir

I'm in a bit of a hurry and won't have a chance to explain properly, for now but will be back tomorrow morning my time to explain further if necessary.
Basically he the one of the standouts in my book at the moment, but I don't remember exactly why right now and don't have enough time to go searching.

Apologies and will be back tomorrow.

LittleGrizzly

06-07-2008, 13:15

On the other, his posts almost seem too argumentative to be mafia. The back and forth about math just seems out of character for someone who is trying to hide amongst the crowd.

Want to watch out for those chatty people eh ?

the math thing was just my fingers typing quicker than my brain thinks, halfed the nine then just added 10 for some reason.... anyway the whole odds thing is a bit of a pointless sidetrack, i was just trying to explain my vote for sasaki..... im not sure who to vote for now...

im going to go for EF just because of the PK bandwagon....

Vote EliteFerret

Ferret

06-07-2008, 13:20

What about the rest of the people on the PK bandwagon...besides I left it before the end as I didn't think it was worth lynching him.

LittleGrizzly

06-07-2008, 13:36

On the hand i don't think your all that guilty... on the other hand no-one wants a vote on them so i can't change it because of that, well its partially your fault pk's dead...

KukriKhan

06-07-2008, 13:51

Don't know about the rest, but georgeman51 signed up for LotR last week and then disappeared off the face of the earth. I suspect he's one of those Org n00bs who signs up for games and then never returns to the forums.

OK, so he's WoG-bait then. The rest of the non-participants?

Didn't vote: 5 (Mithrandir, Lord Winter, Quintus.J.Cicero, georgeman51, Joe Monks)

Gotta dash to the day-job, so I'll throw a vote out there:

vote: Mithrandir

I've not ever seen him sign up to a project, then ignore it. Hughly suspicious.

naut

06-07-2008, 13:52

Christ I'm confused already. So many players playing strangely. I really have to give this some thought first.

I really do hate to jump on a bandwagon (actually no I do, its good fun :laugh4:)

I'm gonna FOS: FactionHeir, getting some bad vibes.

FactionHeir

06-07-2008, 13:54

Everyone seems to have bad vibes about me and I'm not even wearing those rags the greenies do :grin:

Seamus Fermanagh

06-07-2008, 14:48

Vote: Elite Ferret

You were too savvy in Capo to make this "choppy" performance seem believeable.:inquisitive:

Lynch away? Too cute.:yes:

Ferret

06-07-2008, 15:02

Goodbye sweet world :drama1:

And LG: it was PK's fault he was lynched, no one elses.

TinCow

06-07-2008, 15:27

It's pretty thin on the ground all around, but a bit less thin around Elite Ferret. PK is correct about his posting style. The only thing that makes me doubt it is that I don't see any posts which would be consistent with a mafioso partner trying to save him. He's probably not mafia, but I don't see anyone else who looks more incriminating at this point.

Vote: Elite Ferret

anelious phyros

06-07-2008, 17:01

Is there still room?

GeneralHankerchief

06-07-2008, 17:06

Is there still room?

Sorry, signups have been closed.

Check the Mafia Hosting Queue (stickied in the Gameroom) for games that still need players. There should always be at least one, and if not, then one will be starting soon.

anelious phyros

06-07-2008, 17:07

Thanks

Joe Monks

06-07-2008, 17:39

As I am not Mafia I better post quick

TevashSzat

06-07-2008, 18:35

As I am not Mafia I better post quick Not wierd at all there....

Anyways, I think that all of these votes on EF may be too premature. I am kinda getting the same sense as I did in first round when it was just blatant bandwagoning.

Personally, I think that LittleGrizzly's explanations so far aren't particularly convincing and his vote towards EF also did not have much merit. Vote: LittleGrizzly

PS

Can the next guy put up a tally? I'm too lazy to do so

woad&fangs

06-07-2008, 18:59

At one point there was 10 people with one vote a piece.

tally
EF-5(Makaikhaan, Beefy, Seamus, Tincow, LittleGrizz)
Factionheir-2(Woad, Gaius Scribonius Curio)
LittleGrizz-2(Shlin28, TevashSzat)
Seamus-1(Kage)
Ichigo-1(EF)
Sasaki-1(Ichigo)
Beefy-1(peverpink)
Shlin-1(Sarathos)
Kagemusha-1(Crazed Rabbit)
Mithrandir-1(Kukrikhan)

GeneralHankerchief

06-07-2008, 19:34

Big dropoff between last round and this one. :no:

GeneralHankerchief

06-07-2008, 21:43

I'm out summer job hunting, so voting will be extended for an hour or two. When I get back, voting will be closed and Elite Ferret whoever has the most votes will be lynched.

shlin28

06-07-2008, 22:06

So many non-voters...

GeneralHankerchief

06-07-2008, 23:46

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

GeneralHankerchief

06-08-2008, 00:18

The goofiness and mingling that had categorized the previous day's execution had died a swift death after the morning's murders. Everybody realized that, hey, four people had died, not counting the lynch, and the mafia weren't going away. With that in mind, everyone buckled down and got to work - those who bothered working, that is.

Everyone except Elite Ferret.

Apparently not having got the message, this obviously coldhearted, callous, unfeeling individual quickly earned the ire of everyone around him by cracking (bad) jokes, voting for weird reasons, and generally ot taking the process seriously.

"You think this is something funny?!" one of the townspeople screamed at him. "You think that it's okay to laugh at four of us dying horrible deaths?"

The sand pit on the execution platform stirred for a second, as if making a comment on the number of people dead that was stated. Nobody noticed, however.

Instead, the town's bloodlust had been activated at the perceived attack on their values. In an instant, all of them seemed to change into farmers' clothing and brought out torches and pitchforks, seemingly out of nowhere.

"Kill the jokester! Kill the jokester!"

EF paled.

"Now, wait a second guys - hold on! I'll help you out! Really, I will! See, look - where'd you get that gun from? Didn't two of us die from shotgun wounds? Think about him, guys! Uh... guys? Guys?!"

It was too late, however. The villagers of the Kingdom of Peace and Love were in full mob mode and directing their wrath towards Elite Ferret, who scrambled up the execution platform and cowered behind Chief of Police Beirut.

"Beirut, please! You gotta help me out! This crowd... this... this is madness!"

Suddenly Beirut ripped his shirt off and grew a full beard.

"Madness...?" the Chief of Police said. "THIS... IS... SPARTA!!!"

Raising his right leg, he kicked Elite Ferret with the bottom of his foot, who fell into the torches and pitchforks of the angry crowd. They swarmed around him, shouting and cursing so loudly that even EF's screams could not be heard. When they finally calmed down, ten minutes later, Elite Ferret was simply gone. There were a few bloodstains on the ground as well as ash, but that was it.

"Wow," said Beirut, back to his normal self. "Impressive. I also want to thank you guys for helping me out there. You ee, thanks to the OBI's meddling, I didn't even have an execution planned. Anyway, go back to your homes and hope we made the right decision."

Day 2 tally:

Elite Ferret: 5 (TinCow, makaikhaan, LittleGrizzly, Beefy187, Seamus Fermanagh) :skull:
FactionHeir: 2 (woad&fangs, Gaius Scribonius Curio)
LittleGrizzly: 2 (shlin28, TevashSzat)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Ichigo)
Ichigo: 1 (Elite Ferret)
Beefy187: 1 (peverpink)
shlin28: 1 (Sarathos)
Mithrandir: 1 (KukriKhan)
Kagemusha: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)
Seamus Fermanagh: 1 (Kagemusha)
makaikhaan: 1 (FactionHeir)

Abstained: 2 (Rythmic, Joe Monks)
Didn't vote: everybody else.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (32)
Ichigo
RoadKill
TinCow
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
LittleGrizzly
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
peverpink
Sarathos
Mithrandir
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
TevashSzat
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Crazed Rabbit
Fenring
Lord Winter
CountArach
Kommodus
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero
Kagemusha
georgeman51
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus

Executed:
Privateerkev
Elite Ferret

Not happy about all the no-votes.

PMs please.

Tratorix

06-08-2008, 00:29

"Beirut, please! You gotta help me out! This crowd... this... this is madness!"

Suddenly Beirut ripped his shirt off and grew a full beard.

"Madness...?" the Chief of Police said. "THIS... IS... SPARTA!!!"

:laugh4: For some reason that never gets old to me.

Privateerkev

06-08-2008, 01:35

Did not vote day 1: Mithrandir, Lord Winter, Quintus.J.Cicero, georgeman51, Joe Monks

Did not vote day 2:

RoadKill
Sasaki Kojiro
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Mithrandir
Tiberius of the Drake
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Fenring
Lord Winter
CountArach
Kommodus
Quintus.J.Cicero
georgeman51
discovery1

Did not vote day 1, but voted day 2: Joe Monks (even though I did not actually see where he voted, he is listed as having voted)

Did not vote day 2, but voted day 1:

RoadKill
Sasaki Kojiro
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Tiberius of the Drake
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Fenring
CountArach
Kommodus
discovery1

Have not voted at all: Mithrandir, Lord Winter, Quintus.J.Cicero, georgeman51

Caveat: I am not including dead people in these lists.

Craterus

06-08-2008, 01:51

I don't think JM did vote. Suspicious.

However, I stick by my earlier predictions. And Kage, who I was tempted to edit in after that particular post. 'Let's kill someone who writes good kill descriptions'.

GeneralHankerchief

06-08-2008, 02:20

Joe Monks did not vote, but he did post. That counts as an "abstain" in my book.

Sarathos

06-08-2008, 03:31

Mmm not kool, half the alive list are non-voters. The town is gone at this rate.

I would suggest you get the Mod squad onto them GH, but seeming that most of the Mods are on that list, I am at a loss.

But have no fear GH, for I am still playing!

Vote:Non-voters.

Seamus Fermanagh

06-08-2008, 03:41

It's the weekend. It'll pick back up. Stay frosty.:yes:

GeneralHankerchief

06-08-2008, 04:21

It's the weekend. It'll pick back up. Stay frosty.:yes:

I think a good part of the dropoff had to do with Sasaki's absence. He does seem to have a knack for kick-starting discussion, one way or the other.

RoadKill

06-08-2008, 04:37

Sorry I was on a over night school feild trip, so I could not participate. I promise I will participate more frequently now.

CountArach

06-08-2008, 05:42

I'm hung over and very tired now and will catch up tomorrow.

TevashSzat

06-08-2008, 07:50

I might as well post this now. I'm going to be out of town starting on Tuesday until Saturday so don't expect me to really post again until next Sunday

Ferret

06-08-2008, 10:26

:laugh4: great write up GH, I died in style.

LittleGrizzly

06-08-2008, 11:28

Suddenly Beirut ripped his shirt off and grew a full beard.

"Madness...?" the Chief of Police said. "THIS... IS... SPARTA!!!"

Classic!

I would say the weekend is the worst time for grizzy , in terms of posting frequency anyway...

Sarathos

06-08-2008, 15:27

So, active people, you guys want to go hang out?

naut

06-08-2008, 15:38

Ah, good old 300. :laugh4:

Sorry I didn't get very involved, too much EURO 2008.

I don't see anything too out of the ordinary so far. Other than 2 bandwagons in 2 rounds, so FOS anyone who was on both of those bandwagons.

Quintus.JC

06-08-2008, 19:45

excuse for being the new guy, what does FOS stand for? :embarassed:

shlin28

06-08-2008, 19:46

FoS = Finger of Suspicion, when you want to accuse someone but the suspicion doesnt warrant a proper vote :yes:

Quintus.JC

06-08-2008, 19:49

Thanks

Andres

06-08-2008, 22:07

Gotta dash to the day-job, so I'll throw a vote out there:

vote: Mithrandir

I've not ever seen him sign up to a project, then ignore it. Hughly suspicious.

If you would have checked his profile, you would have noticed that he hasn't been online since the 3th of June. If you would have checked his posts, you would also have noticed that he didn't even post in the game he is hosting...

:inquisitive:

Are you just being lazy or were you trying to quickly throw in a vote, almost unnoticed, to disappear again in the shadows?

Oh, and to our mafiosi: killing me won't shut me up :brood:

FactionHeir

06-08-2008, 22:21

:gah2: Mods using their top secret spy cams to check on people's online dates. The end of the world is nigh!

Kralizec

06-08-2008, 22:29

LOL @ EF's death.

And sorry for not voting :embarassed:

Andres

06-08-2008, 22:35

:gah2: Mods using their top secret spy cams to check on people's online dates. The end of the world is nigh!

You mean, you cannot see when somebody was last online?

I know I could when I was just a regular member. And I could also look for recent posts made by a certain member...

How is that using "secret spy cams"?

FactionHeir

06-08-2008, 22:39

You mean, you cannot see when somebody was last online?

I know I could when I was just a regular member. And I could also look for recent posts made by a certain member...

How is that using "secret spy cams"?

I can only on those who are not in invisible mode. Mithrandir uses invisible mode and I thus cannot see when he was last on. Only greenies can see through invisible mode.:bounce:

seireikhaan

06-08-2008, 22:39

You mean, you cannot see when somebody was last online?

I know I could when I was just a regular member. And I could also look for recent posts made by a certain member...

How is that using "secret spy cams"?
Perhaps because Mithrandir is an invisible mod, and thus us regular townies cannot see when he's online. You, on the other hand, can.

KukriKhan

06-08-2008, 22:44

If you would have checked his profile, you would have noticed that he hasn't been online since the 3th of June. If you would have checked his posts, you would also have noticed that he didn't even post in the game he is hosting...

:inquisitive:

Are you just being lazy or were you trying to quickly throw in a vote, almost unnoticed, to disappear again in the shadows?

I've not "disappeared again in the shadows", but I did quickly put a vote up (quickly, because of work commitments) for the one player with whose participation and posting style I'm most familiar - of the list of non-voters. I FoS all non-voters; Mithrandir is the one I 'knew' best. With your query Andres, now I'm a little worried about our Mith. Hope he's OK.

Also note that the forum is still 'under construction', so participation may be negatively effected by that. I had to re-log-in once the org went 'live' again; guys may not remember their login password, etc.

Andres

06-08-2008, 22:45

Perhaps because Mithrandir is an invisible mod, and thus us regular townies cannot see when he's online. You, on the other hand, can.

I see.

But Kukri is a mod as well. So he, just like me, should have known that Mith hasn't been online for a couple of days now...

Crazed Rabbit

06-08-2008, 23:25

If he (unfairly?) used his mod powers as you have.

I want to put some more suspicion on Kagemusha.

CR

Privateerkev

06-08-2008, 23:38

If he (unfairly?) used his mod powers as you have.

Something like this was discussed in Taormina. Mod's have super-mod abilities. It really isn't an "abuse" of power because they can't turn it off. Just know, that if you play a mafia game with mods, they can normally see things that non-mods can't.

FactionHeir

06-08-2008, 23:41

Back in the day it was agreed that mods shouldn't use their extra knowledge against other participants in the game. Even if they can see it, they should pretend that they cannot and ignore it rather than dwell on it. :yes:
Of course its up to GH to decide how he feels about it in his game.

KukriKhan

06-09-2008, 00:13

From the CapoII Rules & Info thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=98632) :

If I have additional abilities as a moderator or administrator on the forum, I will endeavor not to use those abilities as part of my participation in a mafia game, save where asked to do so by the game’s host in response to a valid moderator-related question or function.

I am given to understand that moderators cannot turn off all of their abilities automatically. I am asking them, on their honor, to avoid using such tools as part of their play. This is, of course, exactly what they do at present. As your own experiences tell you, it poses no concern. They're a pretty good group of people.

I thought that was good practice, and continue the procedure myself, although I don't think GH specified such a restriction.

Seamus Fermanagh

06-09-2008, 00:15

If he (unfairly?) used his mod powers as you have.

I want to put some more suspicion on Kagemusha.

CR

Why? Just for tossimg a weak vote my way?

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 00:19

From the CapoII Rules & Info thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=98632) :

I thought that was good practice, and continue the procedure myself, although I don't think GH specified such a restriction.

No, I don't have a restriction on this or invisibility mode. Anybody can be careful enough to avoid detection, even moderator detection. All they have to do is click the "send PM" button and immediately open a new window, which thwarts all efforts of surveillance.

Crazed Rabbit

06-09-2008, 00:22

@ Seamus; Basically, yes. Poor reasoning on that vote.

CR

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 01:10

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. A good old-fashioned angry mob session was as effective as a hard night of drinking when it came to tiredness the next day, and as a result, most people were sleeping in. Out of those that weren't, none of them went jogging, not after two of the murdered were joggers.

However, there were other reasons to be out. There were some rituals that required strict adherence to tradition, after all. One of them happened to be smoking. LittleGrizzly was one of those people who truly only smoked for pleasure, not because he was addicted to the nicotine. He didn't waste his time with those filthy cigarettes, which he considered the height of uncouthness. No, he instead enjoyed one of life's greatest pleasures: Cubans.

Grizz hadn't replenished his supply in a while, and it would be impossible to do so now that the mafia were on the attack. He was down to one box, so he figured that he might as well enjoy them. So, on another beautiful morning in the Frontroom, he took his remaining box, drove downtown, and made his way to one of the roofs to enjoy his cigar n the morning air.

He was halfway through, puffing away, when another figure emerged from the stairs. The man was impeccably dressed, wearing a trenchcoat and a gray fedora. One of his hands were concealed inside the trenchcoat, immediately alerting Grizz that something was wrong. He quickly began eyeing nearby buildings, calculating which one posed the least risk of injury should he have to make a jump for it.

Then the man spoke. "What a wonderful day this is," he said in a cheery voice. Its overall tone completely disarmed Grizz, who wasn't expecting it. "Ah, yes," the man said, noticing Grizz's Cuban. "A Cuban on a roof, on a beautiful day. It's times like these where it's a pleasure to be alive."

"Why, yes it is," said Grizzly, ready to make conversation and now completely unsuspecting. Then the man's hand whipped out of his trenchcoat, tightly gripping a revolver. "Too bad this will be the last day you are." He pulled the trigger and LittleGrizzly went down.

The man walked over to Grizz's corpse, picking up the box of slightly bloodstained Cubans. "Well, I might as well put these to good use," he said, depositing the box inside his trenchcoat and walking away.

Unbeknownst to the mafioso, his shot had once again scared off all of the birds in the area. This was the signal that TevashSzat had been waiting for. For the past two days, he had listened to the Chief of Police rant about how, because of the shots fired, the birds of the Frontroom had been disturbed, usually ending in property damage. Tevash figured that if he could pinpoint the spot where the birds were all flying away from, he would have a good chance of catching a bad guy.

"Downtown," he muttered, pocketing his bioculars and getting into his old blue car. From what he gathered, it had to be there, consdering that the birds were flying in all directions away from that area and that he had heard the shot from his house, meaning that it was probably fired on a roof where there wasn't much to block the sound from going far.

Tevash drove further and further downtown, checking for signs, looking for people... he saw someone, upon his approach, duck into a building - maybe that was the guy! Tevash sharply braked, turning his car around as he did so, preparing to make another pass-

Out of nowhere, a black Mercedes, screeching along, threatened to ram Tevash's car right into the building. Tevash swerved out of the way, just in time, and floored it. Finding the mafioso was important, but so was surviving!

He made a sharp right onto the next street, almost slamming into a fruit stand because he went a little too wide. After jamming on the gas once again, he checked his rearview mirror. The black Mercedes was right behind him, showing no signs of having almost flubbed the turn.

"I have to get out of this area," Tevash said to himself. No matter how many sharp turns he would make, the black Mercedes would always have better handling than his old blue car. The best chance was to simply stay on a road for as long as he could... and hope that the mafioso would run out of gas, or hit a tree, or something.

He stayed on a straightaway, swerving from time to time as the buildings grew farther apart and the trees grew closer together. The mafioso was keeping pace, he noticed to his chagrin. There really wasn't much he could do, he realized. The odds needed to be evened up.

He reached around his car, rolling down his window and searched for anything he might be able to throw at his pursuer. Spare change (no effect), an umbrella (missed), a large map - hit! The toss had worked perfectly, with the map unfolding itself and attaching itself to the mafioso's windshield, totally blocking his field of view.

Unfazed, the mafioso calmly held the wheel, going straight, and took out his shotgun, blowing the windshield away. His vision was restored, but now, Tevash noticed, there was nothing between him and the open air. Grinning, he took the binoculars out of his pocket and, taking his eyes off the road, aimed right for his pursuer's face.

The binoculars and the mafioso connected, with the Mercedes going upwards of 100 mph in one direction and the binoculars going a significant speed in the opposite direction, all resulting in a broken nose for the man in the Mercedes. Cursing, he swerved as he wiped the blood off, narrowly avoiding a tree. He was well behind Tevash's car now.

Back in the front, Tevash saw the mafioso take his eyes off the road once again. It was clear, even from a distance, that the mafioso was rifling through his Mercedes, looking for something. Then he saw it, headed his way, a perfect throw made.

The grenade made contact with the old blue car just as Tevash threw himself out of the driver's seat, rolling on the road, scraping himself in numerous places as his body went from 100 mph to zero. A second later, his car ignited, making him feel a little bit better about his injuries.

VROOM-CRUNCH! The pain increased exponentially as several tons of rubber and metal rolled over his body. Tevash could feel his bones breaking inside him, could hear the screech of the Mercedes ahead as it stopped...

...and then, the pain again, as the mafioso, slowly, painstakingly, ran over TevashSzat again, this time in reverse. He got out of the car, still bleeding from the nose, and gripped his shotgun. Without a word, he pointed it at his barely-conscious victim and shot.

"Didd't adyone eber tell you dat the victibs are suppode to go quiedly?" he said through his nose. He blasted Tevash once more for good measure, and then stomped him in the nose, breaking it. An eye for an eye, perhaps, even though there was no need.

He got back in his Mercedes and still drove away, cursing about the broken windshield all the blood he was getting in its fancy interior.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut had gathered the remaining villagers in the town square in order to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began. "We have two more deaths today. LittleGrizzly has died smoking and TevashSzat has died in an epic car chase where we believe grenades, shotguns, and road maps were used."

"Wow!" someone exclaimed. "What was he doing before that?"

"Birdwatching," Beirut said. "By the way, speaking of the road map, I found this scribbled on the back of the road map. It might be helpful."

He passed copies of the message around to everybody, which read:

"Trouvez les lettres perdus pour aider le village"

"I have no idea what that means, but good luck."

"Wait a minute," somebody said, "Aren't you French-Canadian?"

"I have no idea what you're talking about," Beirut said. "Get voting!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (30)
Ichigo
RoadKill
TinCow
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
peverpink
Sarathos
Mithrandir
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Crazed Rabbit
Fenring
Lord Winter
CountArach
Kommodus
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero
Kagemusha
georgeman51
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus
LittleGrizzly
TevashSzat

Executed:
Privateerkev
Elite Ferret

TevashSzat

06-09-2008, 01:47

Wow, thats a prettu gruesome death for me isn't it?

Weird how I was targetted since I just posted that I'm gonna be away and most likely won't be a threat or be able to vote even for at least the next two rounds or so. Probably just a random killing

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 01:57

Wow, thats a prettu gruesome death for me isn't it?

Hey, I'd kill for a death like that. All of my death scenes have me being taken by surprise, or shot while I was running away, or something.

Tratorix

06-09-2008, 02:31

Trouvez les lettres perdus pour aider le village

"Find the lost letters to help the town" I believe. Wonder what it means. Perhaps this is part of the promised "twist" in this game.

Tiberius of the Drake

06-09-2008, 02:32

Vote:CR
Why were you so determined to try to lynch Kagemusha Last round?

LittleGrizzly

06-09-2008, 02:33

There i was chilling out on the roof enjoying a nice cuban... not even the decency to let me finish it!

Go Town!

Caius

06-09-2008, 02:40

Vote:disco

I've seen you be4 in the chat. What are your thoughts on the game so far?

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 02:41

Vote: Tiberius of the Drake

CR explained his reasoning for voting Kagemusha well enough when he voted for him. He made one more post in the round to put pressure on Kagemusha, and one more to further clarify the reasoning. Not exactly like he's hounding Kage much more than anyone else has when voting for someone. That was a cheap, mostly inexcusable vote given the reasoning you gave. Feels to me like a mafioso trying to just lurk enough without getting WoG'd.

Seamus Fermanagh

06-09-2008, 02:52

Indeed, TotD, CR was reasonably clear in his explaining "why." If anything, it's his choice to persist in his suspicion this round that is worthy of concern. To CR's credit, we know Kage to be a sharp operator, so pushing a bit is appropriate. Now, as to your pouncing on CR....:inquisitive:

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 02:56

"Find the lost letters to help the town" What letters do we have to find :huh:

Hey GH, though you probably can't tell, but was TevashSzat some sort of detective/special role? Or can the rest of town do as crazy stuff as he did?

Now, from what I see,the mafia either targeted both LittleGrizzly and TevashSzat, or there are still two mafia, or the mafia targeted LG but TevashSzat failed his attack or the mafia just defended themselves....rather confusing. Anyone else got any ideas?

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 03:00

Can't say.

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 03:01

Thought not, thanks anyway.

Csargo

06-09-2008, 03:04

NNVTHMST-???

woad&fangs

06-09-2008, 03:04

Too bad this will be the last day you are

Grammer mistake. Also, I don't think it was GH's mistake, especially since the previous writeup include the mafioso saying similar things.

Vote: Kagemusha
I trust CR's intuition and English isn't your native tongue.

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 03:08

Grammer mistake. Also, I don't think it was GH's mistake, especially since the previous writeup include the mafioso saying similar things.

Actually, I'll admit that one was my mistake. I forgot to put something in there about Grizz saying he was going to enjoy his Cuban.

PS: It's grammar. :wink:

woad&fangs

06-09-2008, 03:11

unvote: Kagemusha Okay, not enough evidence for me to call for his lynching now.

also:embarassed::embarassed::embarassed:

Gaius Scribonius Curio

06-09-2008, 03:12

As I understand it Sarathos, there are two mafioso, each of whom can kill once per night. When one is killed the other gets two kills.

GH has said that this is classic game so I'd assume that 'roles' other than the detective and mafia, would be rather thin on the ground.

From the write-up however it seems that Tevash, had a role of some sort, and seen as, regular townies can't investigate/find the lost letters, it would suggest that the detective is still alive and hiding somewhere. Good news for us.

Its not really possible to tell if both mafioso's are still alive, as the second kill didn't have a description for said mafioso. It would be better to assume the worse scenario however.

Also I've noticed from the description that Tevash was watching for any signs of mafia activity, perhaps, without going too far he was an amateur detective or vigilante. Either way it seems likely that we have lost a pro-town role of some sort.

Also FOS: Sigurd Fafnesbane. I understand RL issues and the like, but from my limited experiance, he seems to be posting less than usual, plus he's a very skilled mafioso (so I've heard). Actually I'll extend that to all non-posters, non-voters and general lurkers out there. That way I'm not being picky.

KukriKhan

06-09-2008, 03:15

Wow, thats a prettu gruesome death for me isn't it?

Are you kidding?

...The grenade made contact with the old blue car just as Tevash threw himself out of the driver's seat, rolling on the road, scraping himself in numerous places as his body went from 100 mph to zero. A second later, his car ignited, making him feel a little bit better about his injuries.

VROOM-CRUNCH! The pain increased exponentially as several tons of rubber and metal rolled over his body. Tevash could feel his bones breaking inside him, could hear the screech of the Mercedes ahead as it stopped...

Hollywood would stumble over itself to stage such a well-written, descriptive screen scene. It reads "Die Hard XXII" all over. Can't you just feel the horror of 'feel his bones breaking inside him', while watching 'several tons... roll over his body'?. I could. Bravo, author.

I stand on the FoS of non-posters. Volunteering for a work project (and, although it's fun, this is a work project), then fading away with no explanation, is either irresponsible, or mafia-scummy. Kill 'em all, so participants can sort.

In my opinion.

discovery1

06-09-2008, 03:15

Vote: Sasaki

Since I have nothing better to do.

Gaius Scribonius Curio

06-09-2008, 03:22

Vote: Discovery 1

At least try to come up with a reason!

Also all of your posts have been one sentence or so. Flippant, yes. Helpful, no. Mafioso, possibly.

RoadKill

06-09-2008, 03:24

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 04:25

Vote: Sasaki
Since I have nothing better to do.
I agree with Gaius Scribonius Curio, you don't post or vote for two whole rounds and now you come in and vote Sasaki, (who is also absent),for next to no reason.

Vote:discovery1 :no:

Sasaki Kojiro

06-09-2008, 04:26

Vote:Seamus Fermanagh

FoS:TinCow

More tomorrow, tired now.

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 04:54

Yay Sasaki :party: :balloon: :balloon: :balloon:

discovery1

06-09-2008, 05:19

Vote: Discovery 1

At least try to come up with a reason!

Also all of your posts have been one sentence or so. Flippant, yes. Helpful, no. Mafioso, possibly.

And take the time to read these posts? No way.

I missed two rounds?

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 06:06

CR is posting as he always does. I see nothing out of the ordinary from him.

Leave WoG bait alone for now.

discovery's apathy disturbs me.

Khaan fooled me in Star Wars Mafia, so you guys should lynch him now. :clown:

But on a more serious note, khaan is very good as mafia. Just talkative enough to seem helpful but still able to fade in the background. Might be best to lynch him anyways. Better safe than sorry. :shrug:

Sigurd seems to alternate between activity and inactivity. I wouldn't worry about it for now.

FH is staying a little too much in the background for my comfort. Maybe a vote or two will bring him out.

Sorry, that is all I got for now. LG was one of my top suspects but he was killed.

Tratorix

06-09-2008, 06:24

But on a more serious note, khaan is very good as mafia. Just talkative enough to seem helpful but still able to fade in the background. Might be best to lynch him anyways. Better safe than sorry.

I agree with this. What he has posted really reminds me of his usual posting as mafia. It seems like he's trying to be helpful, but he's not really contributing to discussion.

discovery1

06-09-2008, 06:33

discovery's apathy disturbs me.

Know what that means?

You should vote for me. Everyone Bandwagon Discovery1!

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 06:41

But on a more serious note, khaan is very good as mafia. Just talkative enough to seem helpful but still able to fade in the background. Might be best to lynch him anyways. Better safe than sorry.
It is very true that Khaan is an outstanding player, but I disagree about going after him now. Just because he has been an effective mafia in previous games, no two mafia games are the same, nor should you compare them. What if his luck missed him in this game and he has to settle with being town?

Csargo

06-09-2008, 06:46

.
It is very true that Khaan is an outstanding player, but I disagree about going after him now. Just because he has been an effective mafia in previous games, no two mafia games are the same, nor should you compare them. What if his luck missed him in this game and he has to settle with being town?

What if the worm had a shotgun?

VOTE:KHAAN

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 06:49

Know what that means?

You should vote for me. Everyone Bandwagon Discovery1!

Ok, maybe people here will oblige you. :beam:

.
It is very true that Khaan is an outstanding player, but I disagree about going after him now. Just because he has been an effective mafia in previous games, no two mafia games are the same, nor should you compare them. What if his luck missed him in this game and he has to settle with being town?

True, he isn't at the top of my list. I guess my reasons for suspecting khaan are similar to other people's reasons for suspecting Sasaki. He is good. I guess for now, just keep an eye on him.

Gaius Scribonius Curio

06-09-2008, 07:15

@ Discovery1: What he's trying to say is that your apathy isn't helping the town.

Staying silent for two days and coming back to throw a vote on Sasaki, for no discernable reason smacks of flippancy and prolifigacy. I wasn't certain that you're mafia, but you're certainly acting very scummily in my opinion. If you have anything to say in your defence feel free, but a short and petulant riposte will get you nowhere.

pevergreen

06-09-2008, 07:16

Know what that means?

You should vote for me. Everyone Bandwagon Discovery1!

OH EM GEE LETZ TOTES BANDWAGONZ HIMZ!!!!111ononeelevenwtfbbqhax

Vote: disco

Btw, I'm mafia.

Csargo

06-09-2008, 07:19

Btw, I'm mafia.

Unvote:Khaan, Vote:pever

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 07:19

Why do people insist on being non-helpful townies?

You only make it harder for the town. Even if your not mafia, the town is better off lynching you.

Csargo

06-09-2008, 07:20

Why do people insist on being non-helpful townies?

You only make it harder for the town. Even if your not mafia, the town is better off lynching you.

Says the guy who voted himself...

Gaius Scribonius Curio

06-09-2008, 07:21

Because of that nasty intstinct that you seem to be missing...

...the survival instinct! :laugh4:

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 07:37

I stand by my vote for TotD. Voting for someone because because you want a reason, when a reason was already given, and trying to portray their vote as being exceptional when it wasn't, is purely scummy.

Btw, RoadKill, your reasoning is WIFOM. I could say the same thing about your vote.

Also, I'm flattered that people think I'm excellent. :blush: Especially considering I've missed a kill in every game I've ever been mafia in.:sweatdrop:

Tally:

Discovery1: 4(Caius, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Discovery1, Peverpink)
CR: 1(Tiberius of the Drake)
Tiberius of the Drake: 1(makaikhaan)
Sasaki: 1(Discovery1)
makaikhaan: 1(RoadKill)
Seamus Fermanagh: 1(Sasaki)
Peverpink: 1(Ichigo)

Andres

06-09-2008, 08:50

From the CapoII Rules & Info thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=98632) :

I thought that was good practice, and continue the procedure myself, although I don't think GH specified such a restriction.

I'm sorry. I sincerely thought everybody could see when another member has been online for the last time. Apparently, non-moderators can only see that info when watching the profile of somebody who didn't use invisible mode.

It was not my intention to gain advantage by using "moderator only"-information.

:bow:

And guys, this is discovery1's usual playstyle, so I don't think disco is a good lynch...

Ferret

06-09-2008, 09:34

Also, I'm flattered that people think I'm excellent. :blush: Especially considering I've missed a kill in every game I've ever been mafia in.:sweatdrop:

Heh, after seeing your cunningness in Star Wars I'll always be suspicious of you and PK as well because he's PK :yes:

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 10:23

And guys, this is discovery1's usual playstyle, so I don't think disco is a good lynch...
Ok, Unvote:Discovery1, Vote:peverpink

Beefy187

06-09-2008, 10:30

OH EM GEE LETZ TOTES BANDWAGONZ HIMZ!!!!111ononeelevenwtfbbqhax

Vote: disco

Btw, I'm mafia.

Vote: Pever

Thats for creating WIFOM situation:whip:

Joe Monks

06-09-2008, 11:31

vote:pever

I will jump on the most awesome bandwagon if possible.

pevergreen

06-09-2008, 11:35

TinCow

06-09-2008, 11:45

This "lost letters" thing interests me. Off the top of my head, I have two ideas about what it could mean. First, TevashSzat was the detective, but he wrote his results down somewhere and we can still get access to them by some method that we're still clueless to. Second, the lost letters are the other kind of "letters," namely individual alphabetic letters. Perhaps there is a pattern or cypher in the past write-ups, or will be in future write-ups, that will provide clues. It may be worth our while to start scanning the write-ups for patterns or codes of some kind.

Unvote:Khaan, Vote:pever

One blatantly pointless bandwagon was amusing. Two is bad.

Vote: Ichigo

TinCow

06-09-2008, 11:46

Er... Unvote: Ichigo.
Vote: Kagemusha

Pending a response from Kage.

Andres

06-09-2008, 11:47

Andres

06-09-2008, 11:54

a) you have to bold your vote;
b) why didn't you post your role pm?

You still didn't post your role pm peverpink...

Still busy fabricating one?

pevergreen

06-09-2008, 12:31

Im in the middle of a game, effort to copypasta :laugh4:

EDIT: There you go

In case you've forgotten, Mafia VIII is now underway and the first kills will be up within 24 hours. After that, as the detective, you can investigate one person per night, finding their innocence or lack thereof. PM the name of the player you are going to investigate to me.
GH

Sigurd

06-09-2008, 12:37

Ok I lied, I thought I'd try to pull a spartan for fun.

Im actually the detective, ive investigated:

Night 1: Sasaki (I always investigate Sasaki first, hes innocent)
Night 2: Andres (Yup, innocent, he died >_>)
Night 3: Kage (well CR is normally right...he is again. We has a mafia!)

Unvote: Disco, Vote: Kage

So.. you are saying Kagemusha is guilty?
Show us the proof by posting your pm role and the results of your investigations.

vote: Peverpink to put pressure on the possibly fake detective reveal.

And what say you Kagemusha? Are you the real detective and found pever to be guilty? :beam:

Sigurd

06-09-2008, 12:41

Ok...
I had a telephone while I was writing my last post. Pever did post his 'role pm' before I could finish and post the reply.

unvote: pever, vote: Kage

What say you Kage, is it all a lie? :smash:

PS: We would still want to see those investigation results.

Andres

06-09-2008, 12:51

I'm not a native speaker, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but there's something strange about pever's reveal.

In case you've forgotten, Mafia VIII is now underway and the first kills will be up within 24 hours. After that, as the detective, you can investigate one person per night, finding their innocence or lack thereof. PM the name of the player you are going to investigate to me.
GH

Doesn't this mean that he can only start investigating after the first kills have been posted? That would mean pever was not allowed to investigate on N1, right? We had 3 nights thus far. If pever wasn't allowed to investigate on N1, then he could only have 2 results now?

Yet he claims to have 3 results?

EDIT: also, he didn't reveal but after he was gaining (blatant) bandwagon votes... If you had a guilty result, then why didn't you reveal at the beginning of the day?

woad&fangs

06-09-2008, 12:57

TinCow

06-09-2008, 13:04

Vote: Pevergreen
I believe you be neither mafioso or detective. You are just a very unhelpful townie. Unless someone comes up with a good suspect I'm voting to lose the dead weight.

You think pever is a townie? Why would he make up a fake detective PM if he was a townie? :inquisitive: Detective, yes. Mafioso, yes. Townie, no.

KukriKhan

06-09-2008, 13:07

I'm not a native speaker, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but there's something strange about pever's reveal.

Doesn't this mean that he can only start investigating after the first kills have been posted? That would mean pever was not allowed to investigate on N1, right? We had 3 nights thus far. If pever wasn't allowed to investigate on N1, then he could only have 2 results now?

Yet he claims to have 3 results?

EDIT: also, he didn't reveal but after he was gaining (blatant) bandwagon votes... If you had a guilty result, then why didn't you reveal at the beginning of the day?

Hmmm, you're right, that is how it reads: After that, as the detective, you can investigate one person per night...". So after N1 he can investigate, etc...

Sounds like a phony reveal.

vote: peverpink

Explain, Sir. Or die.

pevergreen

06-09-2008, 13:15

:shrug:
I dont write the PM's.

Lynch me if you want, just get kage eventually?

Andres

06-09-2008, 13:16

:shrug:
I dont write the PM's.

Lynch me if you want, just get kage eventually?

Can you post the pm's GH sent you with your investigation results?

Sigurd

06-09-2008, 13:19

Im in the middle of a game, effort to copypasta :laugh4:

In case you've forgotten, Mafia VIII is now underway and the first kills will be up within 24 hours. After that, as the detective, you can investigate one person per night, finding their innocence or lack thereof. PM the name of the player you are going to investigate to me.
GH

EDIT: There you go

Suspiciously very similar to the townie pm:

In case you've forgotten, Mafia VIII is now underway and the first kills will be up within 24 hours. After that, as a townie, it will be your job to hunt down and lynch the nasty scum. Good luck!

GH

Sarathos

06-09-2008, 13:23

Ok I lied...Im actually the detective.
I don't believe that for one second, this is the second game where you have been lurking and then suddenly come from no where claiming to be the detective. Not going to work this time.

What I don't get is the point of you claiming mafia in the first place. You are either mafia and you want to get yourself lynched because you are insane. You are mafia and you are tryng to avoid getting lynched (which was your fault in the first place...) by trying to cover with your detective story. If you were the detective why would you try and get yourself lynched?

TinCow

06-09-2008, 13:27

Andres

06-09-2008, 13:32

PM similarity could be due to GH writing them both. A 'basic' game doesn't need lengthy role PMs. In any case, it makes no sense to take a chance at lynching a possible detective. Better to let him live and possibly provide us with more detective results. Lynching a single mafioso won't reduce the number of kills anyway. pever should be given at least one round to prove himself.

FoS: Everyone who is voting for pever at this point.

If he is the legit detective, then one of these people is likely Kage's scum buddy.

I'm still undecided, but there are some things suggesting a fake reveal:

a) timing (late reveal, only after he gained a few bandwagon votes, pever is in Australia, maybe he felt the need to save his skin before he had to go to bed, making his reveal in fact a last minute reveal);
b) the odd wording of the role pm;
c) not posting the role pm sponteneously ;
d) not posting the original investigation results as pm'ed by GH.

TinCow

06-09-2008, 13:36

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 13:40

No private reveals by the Detective. It's stated in the rules.

LittleGrizzly

06-09-2008, 13:40

Pevers reveal does seem a bit dodgy, but is it worth the risk lynching him when he could be the detective, this would be a great time for the real detective to reveal if he isn't infact khaan, if the detective could pm one of the dead players (who im guessing are confirmed innocents, bar pk maybe who got lynched rather than killed, which is ironic really)

Edit: damn so detective can't pm me or andres....

only way i can think is for detective to reveal in thread...

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 13:50

Firstly I think pever is likely a townie, not a mafioso, because his reveal seems to be a modified townie PM. Thus I think TinCow voting him saying he is mafia is very suspicious after he just voted Kagemusha on pever's behalf. In fact, I would FoS: TinCow for that. He certainly knows better than this and he is likely Mafia.

Now, as to the twist/hint

NNVTHMST-???

This is getting us somewhere. Is no one else working on this???
I would however emphasize (to prevent mafiosi tinkering with it) that we should post the whole sentence where the letter was missing.
I also think Ichigo is innocent as a result.

As for my analysis:

The birds had returned since the unexpected disturbance of their morning routine yesterday, although they were not singing, as if wary that there would be a similiar breaking of the silence today.

Extra letter, not missing. Still, maybe useful

Andre, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man. "Excellent morning for running, I do say," he said aimiably.

Missing the S in Andres and having an extra i in amiably.

Craterus, deep in the Frontroom marshes, watched the ducks fly away with his high-powered binoculrs.
Missing the a in binoculars

"Downtown," he muttered, pocketing his bioculars and getting into his old blue car.

Missing the n in binoculars

From what he gathered, it had to be there, consdering that the birds were flying in all directions away from that area and that he had heard the shot from his house, meaning that it was probably fired on a roof where there wasn't much to block the sound from going far.

Missing the i in considering

"Didd't adyone eber tell you dat the victibs are suppode to go quiedly?"

This one is a far cry, but useful to keep in mind for future reference.

So the confirmed missing letters so far: S A N I
->Sanity?

[edit]
Also worth considering:
S N from the fedora type
A I from the other guy

People with S and N in their name:
woad&fangs
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Gaius Scribonius Curio
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Seamus Fermanagh
Joe Monks

People with A and I in their name:
RoadKill
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Mithrandir
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Crazed Rabbit
FactionHeir

The problem of course is that we don't know if the letters are supposed to be a name or a code. I suppose the next nights will tell more.
Also note that there was 1 letter missing per night phase kill.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 13:56

Says the guy who voted himself...

Yeah, but doing it on the first day turn did minimal damage to the town. The chances of finding mafia on day 1 were miniscule. I thought it was better to "take one for the team" and help out while dead.

Acting goofy while a townie should be treated the same as abstainers and lurkers. They should be lynched if you can't find mafia. It is in the town's best interest to cull out the people who say "btw I'm mafia" a few day turns into the game.

Acting goofy on turn one is one thing. But doing it 3 or 4 turns into the game just makes you an unhelpful townie.

Because of that nasty intstinct that you seem to be missing...

...the survival instinct! :laugh4:

If your a townie, you shouldn't have a survival instinct. You win if the town wins whether your dead or alive. A survival instinct is the trait of scum.

And guys, this is discovery1's usual playstyle, so I don't think disco is a good lynch...

No but he is not being helpful and should eventually be lynched if no better candidates are found.

Heh, after seeing your cunningness in Star Wars I'll always be suspicious of you and PK as well because he's PK :yes:

I'm honored. :bow:

Ok I lied, I thought I'd try to pull a spartan for fun.

Im actually the detective, ive investigated:

Night 1: Sasaki (I always investigate Sasaki first, hes innocent)
Night 2: Andres (Yup, innocent, he died >_>)
Night 3: Kage (well CR is normally right...he is again. We has a mafia!)

I don't buy this for a second. I think pever got bored being a townie, decided to mess around with WIFOM, got caught, and is now trying to save himself. I don't think he is mafia or the detective. I just think he is being a really bad townie.

Put an equal amount of votes on both Pever and Kag to get them to start talking more. Which ever one satisfies you the most, should be saved for one round.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 13:59

Ichigo: Can you post the sentences where you found the missing letters in case I missed some?

Andres

06-09-2008, 14:08

I agree, there's plenty that is questionable about pever, but I don't see the harm in letting him live. Give him more time to explain himself. Lynching him now won't reduce the number of kills anyway, even if he's mafioso. If he's the detective, he's our only power role. If pever doesn't satisfactorily explain himself in the future, then we can lynch him. It's not like he can easily fade back into obscurity at this point.

Also, if pever is not the detective, then the real detective may still out there somewhere. That person would have some innocent results by now and could easily contact the people he knows to be innocent and use them as a proxy to discredit pever.

Well there are several possiblities:

a) pever's claim is genuine;
b) pever lied:
b) 1) pever is mafia
b) 2) pever is a townie who tries to protect the detective by posting a fake reveal (it has been
done before, I think)

If we are giving pever the benefit of the doubt, then I suggest that the reveal detective investigates pever and, in case of a 'guilty' gives us the results tomorrow. In the meanwhile, the town can lynch Kage.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 14:15

Or pever could be a townie who is lying for fun. He seems to get bored as a townie and like to "spice things up". We all play for different reasons. But his reasons seem to be bad for the overall health of the town. So he should probably get lynched eventually unless he becomes more helpful.

A townie can be most helpful by being active and providing analysis and opinion. It is more difficult for mafia to hide in this enviroment. Allowing people to get away with creating a joke-filled environment gives the mafia cover. It's the same with allowing lurkers or abstaining.

The mafia hide in the environment that the rest of the town creates. Anyone who is creating an environment that helps the mafia, is an unhelpful townie and needs lynching.

Mafia are usually small in number and have difficulty creating the environment themselves. It makes them stand out. They usually sit and follow the cues of the town.

Like I said, throw votes on both Kag and pever. See what they say. Lynch one of them. Then pressure the other tomorrow.

KukriKhan

06-09-2008, 14:43

OK, I'll go with the "give pever the benefit of a doubt" plan, because I can't explain his motivation (and he hasn't either). His accusation against Kage is too shaky to trust.

unvote: peverpink
vote: Mithrandir

^^My default position: vote off the lurkers, intentional or not.

Andres

06-09-2008, 14:48

OK, I'll go with the "give pever the benefit of a doubt" plan, because I can't explain his motivation (and he hasn't either). His accusation against Kage is too shaky to trust.

If we give pever the benefit of the doubt, then shouldn't Kage be our lynch for today?

If we assume pever is the detective, then what exactly is shaky about "Hi, I'm the detecive and my investigation result shows Kage as guilty"?

unvote: peverpink
vote: Mithrandir

^^My default position: vote off the lurkers, intentional or not.

Most of the lurkers will be dealt with by the Wrath of God (WoG). We should pay attention to the lurkers within a day or 3, namely to those who haven't posted much and still managed to avoid the WoG by then.

CountArach

06-09-2008, 14:52

Vote: pever

The fake PM is grammatically incorrect (should be a comma before "or").

TinCow

06-09-2008, 15:05

naut

06-09-2008, 15:09

Giving pever one more night to prove himself isn't too much to ask, so I say we lynch Kage and lynch pever tomorrow.

This letter stuff is confusing me though.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 15:13

I suspect you've mixed up someone else's post with one of mine. I haven't voted for pever, I've been defending him.

Er... Unvote: Ichigo.
Vote: Kagemusha

Pending a response from Kage.

You think pever is a townie? Why would he make up a fake detective PM if he was a townie? :inquisitive: Detective, yes. Mafioso, yes. Townie, no.

:inquisitive:

Anyway, your mention of the letters early on is somewhat redeeming which is why I didn't vote you outright.

naut

06-09-2008, 15:32

And now for something completely different:

Vote: Beefy

This might have been said before but...

Can mafia kill two players if they are down to one players?
Sorry if this has been said. I got no time to go through all post just yet..
Blatant WIFOM.

Im just checking. Am I not allowed to check anymore? My parents always told me to check even its the most obvious thing.. Besides if I was a mafia I wouldnt even have to ask that...
Blatant WIFOM.

Vote: Pever

Thats for creating WIFOM situation:whip:
Third on a bandwagon.

Tally:

peverpink = 6 (Ichigo, Sarathos, Beefy187, Joe Monks, woad&fangs, CountArach)

Kagemusha = 3 (peverpink, TinCow, Sigurd)

discovery1: 2 (Caius, Gaius Scribonius Curio)
Tiberius of the Drake: 1 (makaikhaan)
Crazed Rabbit: 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
Mithrandir = 1 (Kukrikhan)
Sasaki: 1 (Discovery1)
makaikhaan: 1 (RoadKill)
Seamus Fermanagh: 1 (Sasaki)
Beefy187: 1 (Rythmic)

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 16:04

Let's look at pever's posts in conjunction with his supposed night activites.

N1: He supposedly investigates Sasaki and finds him innocent at the beginning of D1

Then he posts this:

1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1937761&postcount=132), 2 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1937780&postcount=137), 3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1937887&postcount=155)

(post 3 is interesting. It was in response to Ichigo's post about the Sasaki bandwagon. If pever found Sasaki to be innocent, why encourage a baseless bandwagon on him?)

After that was this:

4 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1938046&postcount=192)

Then we went into N2 where he supposedly investigated Andres and found him to be innocent.

During N2:

5 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1939492&postcount=242)

During D2:

6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1940279&postcount=278)

Then he does not post in the thread at all for over 2 days. Keep in mind that he has now supposedly investigated Kag and found him to be mafia.

Then, early on today, he makes this post out of the blue:

7 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1941731&postcount=372)

He makes a vote on discovery while supposedly knowing for sure that Kag is mafia. And then he goes all WIFOMish. If he was really the detective, he would have placed a well reasoned vote on Kag and would not have WIFOM'd in such a blatant manner.

Then when caught in the WIFOM, he posts this:

8 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1941827&postcount=383)

Now he is in hot water, he votes for Kag.

9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1941860&postcount=388)

Here he posts his "reveal". It seems like a blatant ripoff of the townie PM. Plus he never posts his night action PM's.

then finally:

10 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1941888&postcount=395)

Here he still tries to keep suspicion on Kag.

At this point, I say keep an eye on Kag but I would guess that he is innocent. Pever had ample opportunity to vote for Kag but didn't until he saw he was about to get bandwagoned. My guess is that Pever is not the detective. I don't think he is mafia either. He seems far too careless. But he is being a very bad townie and seems like a good lynch for today.

shlin28

06-09-2008, 17:15

I don't get the how the missing letters work... can anyone explain it to me?

Withholding vote until later.

Craterus

06-09-2008, 17:29

We're looking for lost letters and several letters appear to be 'out of place' in the write-ups.

Sasaki Kojiro

06-09-2008, 17:44

Pever is clearly not the detective. One will have to look back and see if he is a townie faking for fun or a mafioso.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 17:47

Pever is clearly not the detective. One will have to look back and see if he is a townie faking for fun or a mafioso.

I did. (just 4 posts above.) My guess is he is a townie faking for fun.

Is everything ok Sasaki? You seem very much "off your game" lately...

:inquisitive:

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 18:06

vote: Sasaki

Just because I don't want to abstain.

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 18:35

I'm almost positive that Pever's having fun here. Its not something that totally surprises me if so. Reveal is bad, makes little sense, and he's behaving too goofy to be mafia. Folks, leave him alone and vote for someone who's actually been scummy; like, oh, Tiberius?

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 18:49

vote: Sasaki

Just because I don't want to abstain.

Do you really mean to tell us you have no other suspects other than Sasaki? I said he seemed "off his game", not guilty.

I'm almost positive that Pever's having fun here. Its not something that totally surprises me if so. Reveal is bad, makes little sense, and he's behaving too goofy to be mafia. Folks, leave him alone and vote for someone who's actually been scummy; like, oh, Tiberius?

Regardless, it is proving to be a distraction. He is throwing a lot of suspicion on to Kag who might very well be innocent. Townies who distract the town in such a way end up helping the mafia. So they should be lynched. Do not keep them alive or they may very well try to distract the town some more with their bored antics.

Though it makes me wonder why your defending him. Are you protecting your scum-buddy?

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 18:53

Do you really mean to tell us you have no other suspects other than Sasaki? I said he seemed "off his game", not guilty.

Tell you, not tell us. Big difference :tongue2:
And no, I'm waiting for more night kill writeups before making any serious attempt at a vote as currently any vote is more likely to diminish the town's power by lynching innocents unless we have a really strong lead.

Besides, does it matter if I vote pever or someone else today? He's sure to be lynched anyway.

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 18:53

Do you really mean to tell us you have no other suspects other than Sasaki? I said he seemed "off his game", not guilty.

Regardless, it is proving to be a distraction. He is throwing a lot of suspicion on to Kag who might very well be innocent. Townies who distract the town in such a way end up helping the mafia. So they should be lynched. Do not keep them alive or they may very well try to distract the town some more with their bored antics.

Though it makes me wonder why your defending him. Are you protecting your scum-buddy?
Because its a waste of a lynch to take out someone who we are almost certain of is a townsperson. Even an unhelpful townsperson is still a townsperson, and thus, we're only ensuring that we DON'T lynch a mafioso. Now if people had the sense to realize he was being a fool and nothing more, than he wouldn't be a distraction, now would he? That's sorta why I'm trying to get people to realize that he's not a detective, so we can basically tune him out.

Csargo

06-09-2008, 18:56

Ichigo: Can you post the sentences where you found the missing letters in case I missed some?

"Didd't adyone eber tell you dat the victibs are suppode to go quiedly?"

Here.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 18:58

:gah: I thought you had found more.
Ah well. Go with my list then. :yes:

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 18:59

Tell you, not tell us. Big difference :tongue2:
And no, I'm waiting for more night kill writeups before making any serious attempt at a vote as currently any vote is more likely to diminish the town's power by lynching innocents unless we have a really strong lead.

Besides, does it matter if I vote pever or someone else today? He's sure to be lynched anyway.

Yes it is important to get everyone talking and adding analysis. If you keep sitting out, you deprive us of not only your analysis, but of the opportunity to analyze your statements.

Because its a waste of a lynch to take out someone who we are almost certain of is a townsperson. Even an unhelpful townsperson is still a townsperson, and thus, we're only ensuring that we DON'T lynch a mafioso. Now if people had the sense to realize he was being a fool and nothing more, than he wouldn't be a distraction, now would he? That's sorta why I'm trying to get people to realize that he's not a detective, so we can basically tune him out.

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

Csargo

06-09-2008, 19:00

I found them first though...

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 19:06

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?
I'm pretty sure he's not mafia because when he is, he isn't this goofy; rather he tries to be helpful to some degree. When he's not get a role, this is what he has often done; playing for personal enjoyment before trying to help the town win. In Netherworld, when he was mafia, he tried to "help" lead the town in their efforts to win. Here, he's just being deliberately unhelpful; hence, I believe him to be just his regular, unhelpful self.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 19:07

Yes it is important to get everyone talking and adding analysis. If you keep sitting out, you deprive us of not only your analysis, but of the opportunity to analyze your statements.

I don't think you can argue that I have not contributed towards the town :yes:
If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

Your right, mafia are priority. But after that, we should move on to unhelpful townies. People who lurk, abstain, or goof off are not making our job easier. So they should go if no better lynch subject arises.

And pever might very well be mafia. I personally doubt it but it is possible. Why are you trying so hard to convince us he is a harmless townie?

Because he is a townie.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 19:07

If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

Much like you've been trying to do. Well, you've at least been trying to stay "low-key".

As for the lurkers, we'll go after them too if they don't get WoG'd.

I'm pretty sure he's not mafia because when he is, he isn't this goofy; rather he tries to be helpful to some degree. When he's not get a role, this is what he has often done; playing for personal enjoyment before trying to help the town win. In Netherworld, when he was mafia, he tried to "help" lead the town in their efforts to win. Here, he's just being deliberately unhelpful; hence, I believe him to be just his regular, unhelpful self.

And therefore, deserving of death.

(OOC: in mafia games that is :clown:)

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 19:12

And therefore, deserving of death.

(OOC: in mafia games that is :clown:)
And that's unfortunately where you're wrong. This is quite fortunate for the town, because we can simply tune him out and leave him be. Why do the mafia a favor and kill someone whom we're quite sure is a regular(even if unhelpful) townsperson. Anytime you can get a near confirmation of innocence, its good because you can turn the lynch to someone who might actually be a mafioso.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 19:16

And that's unfortunately where you're wrong. This is quite fortunate for the town, because we can simply tune him out and leave him be. Why do the mafia a favor and kill someone whom we're quite sure is a regular(even if unhelpful) townsperson. Anytime you can get a near confirmation of innocence, its good because you can turn the lynch to someone who might actually be a mafioso.

If you have a better target, I'd like to hear it. And I'm not convinced yet by the arguments against Tiberius.

Pever distracted the town and tried to throw suspicion on Kag, who might very well be innocent. We should let him live because?

Though I still keep wondering why your fighting this so hard...

Craterus

06-09-2008, 19:20

Though I still keep wondering why your fighting this so hard...

Why are you? :shrug:

Even you don't think pever is mafia so why lynch him? The aim is to lynch the mafia so there's little point in lynching someone who is believed to be innocent. Thus, may as well lynch another possibly-more-helpful, but possibly mafia, 'townie'.

seireikhaan

06-09-2008, 19:21

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 19:22

PK the Grand Inquisitor :clown:
You happy with khaan and my answers now or you want to continue to grill us and let some others get away with killing townies?
Those that don't reply to you are probably a lot more scummy.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 19:23

Why are you? :shrug:

Even you don't think pever is mafia so why lynch him? The aim is to lynch the mafia so there's little point in lynching someone who is believed to be innocent. Thus, may as well lynch another possibly-more-helpful, but possibly mafia, 'townie'.

Because I'm trying to figure out why khaan is going so hard-corp on Tiberius but he gives Pever a total pass. At least be consistent...

And again, if there is a better choice than pever, than name it. Otherwise, cull the unhelpful townies from the group.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 19:27

Tiberius blatantly ignored previous data given in two different posts to lodge a quick vote before soon disappearing into the background again to lurk. Further condemning, he completely mischaracterized CR's vote in an attempt to justify his own vote. What part of that do you not feel is scummy?

Btw, I could say that you're trying awfully hard to make sure pever DOES get lynched. The pendulum swings both ways. :devilish:

If you don't know CR, he does come off as guilty at first. He fooled me in Taormina. I see Tiberius as just lurking right now. Go after him if he doesn't get WoG'd.

As for me, go ahead and swing that pendulum back if you think it will help you. Pever seems to be doing a good enough job getting Pever lynched. I'm now turning my sights on those who are trying to protect him and enable poor townie behavior.

PK the Grand Inquisitor :clown:
You happy with khaan and my answers now or you want to continue to grill us and let some others get away with killing townies?
Those that don't reply to you are probably a lot more scummy.

No I'm not happy. Both of you tripped off my radar. As for those who don't reply, we'll go after them soon enough when they don't get WoG'd.

Talking and analysis help the town. Letting this place stay quiet does not help the town.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 19:35

No I'm not happy. Both of you tripped off my radar. As for those who don't reply, we'll go after them soon enough when they don't get WoG'd.

Talking and analysis help the town. Letting this place stay quiet does not help the town.

Tune your radar then.
As I said, there is no point is pursuing false leads which allow the true suspects to hide under the pretense of conversation going on.

And remember that GH said that just posting in the thread without voting abstain counts as abstain and won't get you WoGed.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 19:39

Tune your radar then.

Sorry, you'll have to do better than short, light, and fluffy comments to convince me your innocent.

As I said, there is no point is pursuing false leads which allow the true suspects to hide under the pretense of conversation going on.

And remember that GH said that just posting in the thread without voting abstain counts as abstain and won't get you WoGed.

Why are you so convinced they are false? Why do you seem to fear conversation? If your a townie, you would welcome discussion. You would welcome analysis and opinion.

Your attempts to solve "Da'General's Code" could just be an attempt to appear like your helping when your really not.

Craterus

06-09-2008, 19:39

If you don't know CR, he does come off as guilty at first. He fooled me in Taormina. I see Tiberius as just lurking right now. Go after him if he doesn't get WoG'd.

As for me, go ahead and swing that pendulum back if you think it will help you. Pever seems to be doing a good enough job getting Pever lynched. I'm now turning my sights on those who are trying to protect him and enable poor townie behavior.

No I'm not happy. Both of you tripped off my radar. As for those who don't reply, we'll go after them soon enough when they don't get WoG'd.

Talking and analysis help the town. Letting this place stay quiet does not help the town.

I've named my suspects and, as it stands, none of them have done anything to convince me otherwise. You can look back for it though.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 19:44

Sorry, you'll have to do better than short, light, and fluffy comments to convince me your innocent.
Why are you so convinced they are false? Why do you seem to fear conversation? If your a townie, you would welcome discussion. You would welcome analysis and opinion.

Your attempts to solve "Da'General's Code" could just be an attempt to appear like your helping when your really not.

Nice try in getting some uncertainty into other people's minds with nagging questions, but they don't work. There is a limit to how much discussion is welcome and how much starts to harm the town.
That limit in my opinion has been exceeded.

I certainly do welcome analysis and opinion, but you must direct such works properly rather than analyze where there is nothing more to analyze.

Tratorix

06-09-2008, 19:47

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

06-09-2008, 19:48

Vote: Beefy

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 19:56

Bold your vote please

shlin28

06-09-2008, 19:57

Bold your votes AntiWarmanCake... :yes:

I will vote Ichigo

Reasons:

1. Methinks he is being 'helpful' to fool the town.
2. Now that LittleGrizzly's dead I need to find someone else to be the victim of my instinct.
3. Ichigo hasn't been mafia for ages, laws of probability dictates that he has to be one eventually... possibly now.

Craterus

06-09-2008, 19:59

Laws of probability indicate nothing of the sort. Ichigo has the same chance of being mafia in this game as anyone else.

shlin28

06-09-2008, 20:03

The chance of him not being mafia goes from say 19/20 in one game, 18/20 in the other game, gradually the odds would grow smaller, even though the probability in that one game appears to be random.

I think...

Craterus

06-09-2008, 20:05

Why? Games do not accomodate for predecessors.

You can flip a coin 4 times and it might come up tails 4 times. The next time you flip it, the odds will still be 50/50.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 20:05

Nice try in getting some uncertainty into other people's minds with nagging questions, but they don't work. There is a limit to how much discussion is welcome and how much starts to harm the town.
That limit in my opinion has been exceeded.

I certainly do welcome analysis and opinion, but you must direct such works properly rather than analyze where there is nothing more to analyze.

Time for some more analysis then.

Here are some of your earlier posts:

Hmmm they killed 2 lurkers

vote: LittleGrizzly for being the third person to FoS during night phase.
I think myself, Kagemusha and RK are definitely innocent judging from posts so far.

My guess would be makaikhaan (Andres voted him and got killed) or LittleGrizzly (R1 suspicious) still.
As I said previously, I still think RK and Kage may be innocent.

For now, vote: makaikhaan

Ok, so then you thought Kag was innocent and Khaan was guilty. You took a stance. You put forth opinions.

Then this morning you do this:

Firstly I think pever is likely a townie, not a mafioso, because his reveal seems to be a modified townie PM. Thus I think TinCow voting him saying he is mafia is very suspicious after he just voted Kagemusha on pever's behalf. In fact, I would FoS: TinCow for that. He certainly knows better than this and he is likely Mafia.

How do you jive both Kag and pever being ok? Your so sure Kag is innocent but you don't mind that pever is causing votes to be thrown on Kag by his false reveal.

Then you go and do this:

vote: Sasaki

Just because I don't want to abstain.

Where went all that suspicion towards Khaan? What happened to stating a strong opinion? All of a sudden, your going to abstain, so you throw what is basically a random vote towards someone who is hardly active this game?

Tell you, not tell us. Big difference
And no, I'm waiting for more night kill writeups before making any serious attempt at a vote as currently any vote is more likely to diminish the town's power by lynching innocents unless we have a really strong lead.

Besides, does it matter if I vote pever or someone else today? He's sure to be lynched anyway.

Now your waiting? Why weren't you waiting the first two days? All of a sudden you think there is "less" evidence out there? As for pever, why the continued disinterest? He tried to get Kag lynched who you have been telling us is innocent.

You happy with khaan and my answers now or you want to continue to grill us and let some others get away with killing townies?
Those that don't reply to you are probably a lot more scummy.

Now your defending khaan? But you thought he was guilty. What changed?

I don't think you can argue that I have not contributed towards the town
If we keep this back and forth between us, then the real mafia gets a chance to lurk.

A real townie would welcome questioning. For they have nothing to hide. And they would not fear death, for they would still win if the town wins.

All of a sudden my attempt to get conversation and analysis going seems threatening to you.

Why?

shlin28

06-09-2008, 20:12

Even though events are unlinked, the probability of a person getting the same role are growing smaller and smaller.

Its like this, if you flip three coins in a role, the probability of you getting three heads is smaller than you getting two heads and then a tail.

So there is a comparably high possibility of Ichigo being mafia than say a person who has been mafia for the last couple of games.

Edit: This is addressed to Craterus.

TinCow

06-09-2008, 20:14

This post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1942004&postcount=416) has convinced me.

Unvote: Kagemusha
Vote: peverpink

Just to be sure, though, it would be a good idea to lynch Kage tomorrow.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 20:19

My reasoning for RK and Kag was based on the townie PM and the way they responded to my post immediately. Call it a bait.

LG seems a bit scummy to be the third FoS, nothing serious.

khaan due to him being the only person to vote Andres who was killed. Vote mainly to make him talk.

His behavior now obviously suggests he is a townie.

As for pever, only someone behind the moon would think he's mafia :clown:

My main suspicion is on TC at the moment, but not enough for me to vote him.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 20:24

Thanks FH.

I find that this helps me. I hope it helps others too. I think it is important to tease out people's thoughts and motives. It also helps to see if people contradict themselves.

:yes:

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 20:27

So you are not going to vote me?

For president of course!

woad&fangs

06-09-2008, 20:30

Privateerkev is dead. So no, he isn't going to vote for you.

FoS: FactionHeir

Csargo

06-09-2008, 20:31

I was mafia in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly...

shlin28

06-09-2008, 20:34

Damn... that means I wasted 10 minutes thinking about my theory over nothing... :sweatdrop:

Unvote: Ichigo

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 20:37

So you are not going to vote me?

For president of course!

(i'm dead...)

I've been looking at your list and have you considered listing people with all four letters?

People with S, A, I, and N in their name:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Gaius Scribonius Curio
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88

Omanes Alexandrapolites also but he is dead

I have no idea what it means but I thought I would post it anyways. We'll see next kill phase what letter is missing and then we can match it up and see if anything fits.

Sasaki Kojiro

06-09-2008, 21:07

FoS:TinCow again.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 21:19

FoS:TinCow again.

why? :inquisitive:

Your usually more talkative.

Ferret

06-09-2008, 21:35

why? :inquisitive:

Your usually more talkative.

If there is one thing I've learned from playing mafia, it's that TC is always up to something scummy...:whip:

Seamus Fermanagh

06-09-2008, 21:37

"NNVMST"

Good spotting Ichigo, I tumbled onto the same sentence and found it "off" as well, but you were there first.

Try holding your nose and reading the sentence as it is properly said in English -- it doesn't work.

Writing them down like that, the first thing popping into my head was "none of most" as in none of the most.

Unfortunately, I didn't seen anything answer the most "what" portion of that. Most well-known names? Most prolific posters? Most active players?

FH, I don't think you are on the right track. However, if you are, you'll need to do a missing letter analysis of every post in the information thread for this game. It is unlikely that only 4 letters would suffice. Using your assumption, a few missing words in the descrip, it would take more than that to send a good signal. The other posts would have to be grist if your approach is correct.

Odd possibility. "Forgotten letters" in some of our names? Antiwarman and Woad are both missing letters, having replaced them with symbols. Note: this may be fabricating Himalayan peaks from blind rodent tunnelling products.

On another note:

I agree with the analysis that says pever' fabricated his reveal PM. The phrasing does not ring true to GH -- GH'd likely have written "innocent or guilty" (the usual binary phraseology). pever's seems over written and the "after that" doesn't mesh. Does this mean that pever is mafia? Hardly -- as Sasaki can confirm, a townie might reveal himself, falsely, as detective just to bait a response -- but I don't think this post dictates he's necessarily a detective or mafioso.

To be safe however, and because a poorly done false detective reveal by a townie can only detract and not serve as good bait, I'll VOTE: Peverpink fka pevergreen*

* Actually, it doesn't surprise me at all when a Green turns out to be a pinko after all -- bunch of "watermelons," the lot of them! :devilish:

Kagemusha

06-09-2008, 21:45

I apologize for showing up so late, but i have been recovering from a nice little boat cruise to Tallin.:sick2:Interesting move by Pever. Either you are a bad townie causing chaos with your fake reveal or mafia trying to bait detective to show himself, but it seems to be pretty illogical to pull out such a stunt this early in the game. In any case this stunt does not help the town in any way.:no: Vote : Pever

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 21:46

"NNVMST"

Good spotting Ichigo, I tumbled onto the same sentence and found it "off" as well, but you were there first.

Try holding your nose and reading the sentence as it is properly said in English -- it doesn't work.

Writing them down like that, the first thing popping into my head was "none of most" as in none of the most.

Unfortunately, I didn't seen anything answer the most "what" portion of that. Most well-known names? Most prolific posters? Most active players?

FH, I don't think you are on the right track. However, if you are, you'll need to do a missing letter analysis of every post in the information thread for this game. It is unlikely that only 4 letters would suffice. Using your assumption, a few missing words in the descrip, it would take more than that to send a good signal. The other posts would have to be grist if your approach is correct.

Actually I did. There was 1 missing letter in each kill descript.
And when I read through your post I for some reason think you are intentionally trying to make this affair seem less important.
FoS: Seamus

Its quite obvious that your "missing" letters in a sentence spoken by a man with a broken, bleeding nose are intentional and not related (as of current evidence) to the acual hint, for I doubt GH would otherwise have exactly 1 missing letter in each kill descript.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 21:57

found this in the day 2 post:

"Wow," said Beirut, back to his normal self. "Impressive. I also want to thank you guys for helping me out there. You ee, thanks to the OBI's meddling, I didn't even have an execution planned. Anyway, go back to your homes and hope we made the right decision."

Missing another s.

so far, that is S A N I S in no particular order.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 22:06

Hmmm interesting. I had not looked much at day posts, but this is in D1:

His charges, the villagers of the Frontroom, were doing their civic duty and voting!

It should be chargees as Beirut is in charge.
So add an E to the list

This makes it S A E N I S
in order of appearance.

[edit]
Of those whose names fulfill all letters:

Sigurd Fafnesbane
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88

Though Warman only has 1 S, so it suggests its only Sigurd.

unvote: Sasaki, vote: Sigurd
Speak.

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 22:10

While not commenting on anything that's been discussed, I do want to say that, while potentially not gramatically correct, "charges" has been commonized enough where I wouldn't consider it an error.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 22:12

This makes it S A E N I S
in order of appearance.

[edit]
Of those whose names fulfill all letters:

Sigurd Fafnesbane
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88

Though Warman only has 1 S, so it suggests its only Sigurd.

unvote: Sasaki, vote: Sigurd
Speak.

Also Omanes Alexandrapolites but he is dead.

Sigurd has been rather quiet. It's hard to get a read on him because he admits to switching it up every game. In Taormina, he lurked until lynched, and then got super-active as a ghost. In Star Wars, he was chatty but it ended up getting him lynched. He was mafia in both games.

*edit*
In light of what GH just said, put Curio back on the list.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 22:13

While not commenting on anything that's been discussed, I do want to say that, while potentially not gramatically correct, "charges" has been commonized enough where I wouldn't consider it an error.

So uh, care to correct your writeups of unintended mistakes as to not mislead us poor townies? :grin2:

[edit]
I think that GH wouldn't have commented on the above if it wasn't intended to be so, so we can go from SANIS for now or look for another missing letter in the D1 writeup, that is unless the D2 error was also unintended in which case we go back to my Night-only scenario.

For SANIS, we got:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Gaius Scribonius Curio
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88 (again, one S too much..)

GeneralHankerchief

06-09-2008, 22:40

So uh, care to correct your writeups of unintended mistakes as to not mislead us poor townies? :grin2:

Aw, you're cute. ~:pat:

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 22:43

I think that GH wouldn't have commented on the above if it wasn't intended to be so, so we can go from SANIS for now or look for another missing letter in the D1 writeup, that is unless the D2 error was also unintended in which case we go back to my Night-only scenario.

For SANIS, we got:
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Gaius Scribonius Curio
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88 (again, one S too much..)

I went through the Day 1 post a couple times and I can not find a missing letter. If someone else had better luck, let us know.

Again you keep leaving out Omanes. We should at least keep including him for thoroughness as long as we keep adding the caveat that he is dead.

FactionHeir

06-09-2008, 22:50

Maybe he's my scum buddy :clown:
I figured there's no point in including dead people...especially those killed by the mafia

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 22:55

Maybe he's my scum buddy :clown:
I figured there's no point in including dead people...especially those killed by the mafia

Your assuming the clue will lead to mafia identity. It might be something else. I don't know what, but I don't want to overlook anything.

woad&fangs

06-09-2008, 23:22

Your assuming the clue will lead to mafia identity. It might be something else. I don't know what, but I don't want to overlook anything.

unvote: peverpink; Vote: Factionheir
I don't think the surprise is pro-town. The town is already getting a detective and 10+ chances to lynch 2 mafioso. My guess is that FactionHeir is one of the mafioso. After he realized the secret message wasn't going to hurt him he decided to try and figure out what it meant(my guess is the detective's identity). It's a good way to appear helpful while still serving a scummy purpose. Also, I don't like the general tone of his exchanges with PK.

Sigurd

06-09-2008, 23:22

unvote: Sasaki, vote: Sigurd
Speak.

I have really nothing to contribute. I just saw the greatest football game this year.
Congratulations Holland on a well played game. I just loved seing the dirty Italians getting their World Champion behinds kicked around for 90 minutes. :smash: :2thumbsup:

If you guys are on the ball on the missing letters thing, I am not the one you are looking for. I am not mafia and I am not the detective.
Since the pever thing is obviously a fake... I'll unvote: Kage, vote: pever
There is a slight possibility that he could be mafia. A wise mafia player, the one behind the Godfather versions of this game, once said; If you catch someone in a lie, always lynch.

Privateerkev

06-09-2008, 23:27

I have really nothing to contribute. I just saw the greatest football game this year.
Congratulations Holland on a well played game. I just loved seing the dirty Italians getting their World Champion behinds kicked around for 90 minutes. :smash: :2thumbsup:

The last time Sigurd said he was busy because of a football game, he was really lurking as mafia... :yes:

Sigurd

06-09-2008, 23:28

The last time Sigurd said he was busy because of a football game, he was really lurking as mafia... :yes:
Correction: it was a hockey game.

TinCow

06-10-2008, 00:03

This makes it S A E N I S
in order of appearance.

[edit]
Of those whose names fulfill all letters:

Sigurd Fafnesbane
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88

Though Warman only has 1 S, so it suggests its only Sigurd.

unvote: Sasaki, vote: Sigurd
Speak.

While I am intrigued by the possibility of some kind of cypher in the write-ups, I think you're way off base on this one. The missing letters could very well be the cypher, but they could also just be misspellings. GH is a good writer, but he makes as many spelling and grammar errors as the rest of us. Unless he was ungodly careful, some of the letters you have pulled out may be wrong. Even if they are all right, your reason for voting Sasaki and then Sigurd is what, exactly? Similar letters in their names? I'm sorry, but that seems way, way too obscure a clue for GH. If he was going to put a real twist or cyper in this game, it would be something that would pop out at you when you finally noticed it. This just isn't doing it. If the letters really are a clue, they are far more likely to be in the form of a substitution cypher than an anagram.

Privateerkev

06-10-2008, 00:05

Correction: it was a hockey game.

Is there a difference?

:hide:

CountArach

06-10-2008, 00:18

Is there a difference?

:hide:
One has big sticks, the other doesn't.

Privateerkev

06-10-2008, 00:40

Alright, now that I'm off work, I'm going to comb through the reports again.

N1: I couldn't find anything missing.

D1: I couldn't find anything missing here either.

N2:

Andre, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man. "Excellent morning for running, I do say," he said aimiably.

Craterus, deep in the Frontroom marshes, watched the ducks fly away with his high-powered binoculrs.

So that is an S and an A respectively.

D2:

Apparently not having got the message, this obviously coldhearted, callous, unfeeling individual quickly earned the ire of everyone around him by cracking (bad) jokes, voting for weird reasons, and generally ot taking the process seriously.

You ee, thanks to the OBI's meddling, I didn't even have an execution planned.

So that is an N and an S respectively.

N3:

"Downtown," he muttered, pocketing his bioculars and getting into his old blue car.

From what he gathered, it had to be there, consdering that the birds were flying in all directions away from that area and that he had heard the shot from his house, meaning that it was probably fired on a roof where there wasn't much to block the sound from going far.

So that is an N and an I respectively.

S A N S N I

Only two names have those six letters in them.

Sigurd Fafnesbane and Omanes Alexandrapolites who is dead.

I'm pretty sure I found all the missing letters so far. One trick is to go to each night/day summary, hit "quote", and look at all the misspelled words that are underlined in red. A word of warning though, this trick would not have found "Andre". So you still need to read carefully.

pevergreen

06-10-2008, 00:51

When I am a townie, I do hope that I'm not useless, if nothing else I am active, and I do provoke discussion.

Unvote: Kage by the way.

its pever

Hmmm, I do believe over analysation with the missing letters, I think wait for more writeups, it could just be a storyline thing...

I could vote myself, but...

Vote: Sarathos

Im pretty sure he is guilty.

If I am lynched, I request that I yell at everyone for using the capital and falcon punch someone, then get killed. :laugh4:

FactionHeir

06-10-2008, 01:06

So that is an N and an I respectively.

S A N S N I

Only two names have those six letters in them.

Sigurd Fafnesbane and Omanes Alexandrapolites who is dead.

:gah2: I missed that many? I used MS Word's spellchecker though + going manually, so I'm not surprised :grin:

SANSNI. Hmmmm I'm starting to think it may not directly be a name but a hint.
Note the map had French writing.
Sans = without
Ni = Nor/Neither

Together they tend to be used as sans X ni Y. Like Sans foi ni loi (without spirit nor morals).

So we may still be looking for more clues somewhere. Or a name that means neither nor / without nor or a name that is lacking something.

Actually, can you find anything else missing/wrong between the second S and the second N and something after the I? Like a letter, number, anything? Because then it could mean something like:
Sans P ni K (like a name without P nor K for instance)

GeneralHankerchief

06-10-2008, 01:19

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

Privateerkev

06-10-2008, 01:20

Actually, can you find anything else missing/wrong between the second S and the second N and something after the I? Like a letter, number, anything? Because then it could mean something like:
Sans P ni K (like a name without P nor K for instance)

Sorry, I can't figure it out. :shrug:

Day 2, where the first N and second S were missing, we're in parts specifically to do with EliteFerret.

And in Night 3, where the second N and first I were missing, we're in the same paragraph. And that was where TevashSzat was trying to figure out where the birds were flying away from.

So, neither EF nor Tevash?

Seamus Fermanagh

06-10-2008, 01:30

Alright, now that I'm off work, I'm going to comb through the reports again.

N1: I couldn't find anything missing.

D1: I couldn't find anything missing here either.

N2:

So that is an S and an A respectively.

D2:

So that is an N and an S respectively.

N3:

So that is an N and an I respectively.

S A N S N I

Only two names have those six letters in them.

Sigurd Fafnesbane and Omanes Alexandrapolites who is dead.

I'm pretty sure I found all the missing letters so far. One trick is to go to each night/day summary, hit "quote", and look at all the misspelled words that are underlined in red. A word of warning though, this trick would not have found "Andre". So you still need to read carefully.

I think that counting Day writeups in probably an incorrect move. Leaves S-A-N-I.

A greek resort, a Hindu name for the god Saturn, a name often used in 419 scams...not sure we have anything complete.

Substitution using 8 (for mafia eight) yields A-I-V-Q...but this seems even less helpful.

Privateerkev

06-10-2008, 01:35

I think that counting Day writeups in probably an incorrect move. Leaves S-A-N-I.

Yeah but the letters missing on Day 2 are uber-obvious and should not be discounted.

He left the N out of "not" and the S out of "see". I don't see those being accidents. Plus they show up in the .org's automatic red underlined spell checker.

pevergreen

06-10-2008, 01:42

If you have that enabled, I dont.

Privateerkev

06-10-2008, 01:47

If you have that enabled, I dont.

It's weird. I have it at home (firefox) but not at work (IE).

I have no idea how to turn it on.

But there is a manual spell checker function when you write posts that you can use.

Csargo

06-10-2008, 01:49

Firefox has a spell check function. IE does not.

GeneralHankerchief

06-10-2008, 02:03

Day 3 of the attack on the Frontroom. Six were gone, four courtesy of the mafia, two by the town's own hand. Shortly that number would rise to three, for sunset and thus the counting of the votes drew near.

The unlucky third lynchee appeared more and more likely to be peverpink, who had committed the critical error of goofing around too much. Apparently, even the barbaric execution of Elite Ferret during the previous day had failed to convince him to wise up and get serious about things. pever was about to pay the ultimate price.

"Kill the jokester! Kill the jokester!"

It was all too familiar. The town had yet to take out their mob clothing, torches, and pitchforks, but the reason that they were going after pever was exactly the same. pever, realizing far too late that he had taken things too far, tried to backpedal and plead with the town to spare him.

"Okay, I admit it! I lied! So what if I wasn't the Detective, I'm still a townie! I'm still with you guys!"

The town wasn't buying it. pever picked up the villagers' bloodlust, exhibiting a sixth sense akin to when certain animals detect fear. Remembering what had happened to EF the night before, he realized his chances of survival remaining among the townspeople weren't good. He scrambled up the execution platform, cowering behind Chief of Police Beirut, once again paralleling the lynching of yesterday.

"All right, look. I know I'm going to be lynched, so-"

"That's right," Beirut interrupted, "You are. I was about to read the tally."

"Everyone knows it's me. Can we just get on with it? I'd prefer a quick death."

"Hold on there, young'un," Beirut said. "Procedure must be honored." He cleared his throat, speaking to the rest of the angry town.

"Gentlemen," he began, "You have chosen to execute Peverpink for crimes of the Frontroom today..."

"peverpink with a lowercase 'p'", the condemned muttered under his breath."

"...now then," Beirut said, finishing up, "He is to die!"

The crowd cheered wildly. An outside observer witnessing this scene might have noted that the villagers of the Frontroom were perhaps too into it, chanting and screaming and calling for engeance. Now, finally, the mob clothes and torches and pitchforks came out, completing the déjà vu.

"peverpink," Beirut boomed. "You are hereby sentenced to death by immolation. If you are religious, now would be a good time to pray."

Looking around, pever noticed the crowd gripping their torches tighter, as if preparing to throw them. "Now, waitaminute," he said, "You're gonna waste your brand new execution platform on me? And what about you? You're here too!"

Beirut chuckled. "Unfortunately for you, only the top of the platform is flammable. And as for me, well... the Chief of Police always has a way out." Pressing a button, a propellor popped out of the top of Beirut's police hat. A second later, he was puttering above the crowd and out of sight, leaving pever to the mercy, or lack thereof, of the crowd.

The immolation was bright enough to illuminate Beirut's way home.

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Still alive: (29)
Ichigo
RoadKill
TinCow
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sarathos
Mithrandir
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Crazed Rabbit
Fenring
Lord Winter
CountArach
Kommodus
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero
Kagemusha
georgeman51
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus
LittleGrizzly
TevashSzat

Executed:
Privateerkev
Elite Ferret
peverpink

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