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navarro951
12-31-2008, 12:42
ok library is done lemme know wut ya guys think...also as far as ACT points go, i will update them AFTER the CC. thanks! off to bed for me now.

everyone
12-31-2008, 16:36
I'm sure a young Tribune such as yourself would welcome a chance to strike back at old enemies to the north, gaining experience in waging war and command in the Legio II Latium. What say you, senator?

I don't think this should be said in the Senate thread (since it would ruin Cotta's plan and any further chance of role-playing the argument); I'm just posting it here to remind Baen that Cotta has already got two tribunes under his command, mjolnir and il_duce volunteered themselves as your tribunes already, unless you have not accepted them.
anyway I'll probably let Asina sit and see what happens to the argument, since it's starting to get a bit interesting.

/Bean\
12-31-2008, 16:41
Two reasons.

1: the actual decision about my new tribunes wont be until the legions finished

2: i thought the argument was carrying on a bit, so I thought people would start to get annoyed, but we can continue if you want...probably better to keep it and then we argue more often, making rivary more diverse

Just my opinion. Ibn's a fun argue buddy :laugh4:

Ibn-Khaldun
12-31-2008, 17:06
Since Quintus is pessimistic nobile patrician then I roleplay him as a man who would oppose any plebeian. And because Cotta is young plebeian then Quintus will oppose anything he might say(even if he thinks the same way). :beam:

SwissBarbar
12-31-2008, 17:29
I don't think this should be said in the Senate thread (since it would ruin Cotta's plan and any further chance of role-playing the argument); I'm just posting it here to remind Baen that Cotta has already got two tribunes under his command, mjolnir and il_duce volunteered themselves as your tribunes already, unless you have not accepted them.
anyway I'll probably let Asina sit and see what happens to the argument, since it's starting to get a bit interesting.

My character is quite intelligent, first he must be convinced going north :laugh4: We won't ruin the game, it's just more fun (and more historically accurate to roleplay rivalry among the senators :smash:



hmm, i have to ask your council. My Character is a "Plebeius" and at the same time he is a member op the "Gens Aemilius" (one of the noblest and oldest roman families) and also hes "nobile". Its quite contradictory. I will roleplay him as a Patricius, since he's an Aemilius and his name is his most conspicuous attribut.

/Bean\
12-31-2008, 18:05
Yeah thats right, abandon your beliefs, fool! Once again, I am the only Plebivs in the village, muahahhaha.......i feel lonely.

Potocello
12-31-2008, 18:54
ok library is done lemme know wut ya guys think...also as far as ACT points go, i will update them AFTER the CC. thanks! off to bed for me now.

the library looks great navarro, really impressive work there. Kinda cool to see my avatar getting more management and things. I chuckled a little bit to see the "casual adulterer" under his traits. :clown:

Il_Duce
12-31-2008, 22:25
I think it would be nice if everybody would put their rank next to their name in their signature so we know who we're talking to.

Potocello
12-31-2008, 22:50
i agree, i find myself flipping through the forums to find out who's who so i dont offend anyone in the senate thread.

Il_Duce
01-01-2009, 02:32
https://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z132/mstgnymike/BtSH/TitvsValerivsMaximvs.jpg

Hahaha, this guy is a badass

navarro951
01-01-2009, 03:09
haha indeed

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 13:30
You looking at me?

I said you looking at me?

I shoot you up mother ****er.

everyone
01-01-2009, 14:27
how do you know I'm looking at you, your eyes are closed! :clown:

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 14:51
They are not closed. They are glaring.

There is not a chin under my goatie, only another fist.

If I have 5 Mnai and you have 5 Mnai, Titus Maximus has more money.

everyone
01-01-2009, 15:03
but Asina has a balder head!
(oh no, Asina looks strangely similar to Titvs, with the balding, the partially closed glaring eyes, sideburns and goatee :smash:)

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 15:22
No, there is only one Titus Valerius Maximus. You shall worship no false idol.

By the way it is all IC. Of course I am being awkward so you all I die and I become Emporor.

/Bean\
01-01-2009, 16:29
*Reads last few posts*

.....ok...Happy New Year people. I take it it's been midnight across the world by now. Everybody have a good new years? I almost did, but I spent the entire time from half 11 to seven in the morning looking after my mate, who had too much to drink and got a bit traumatic about the girl he loves...:help:

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 16:42
@ bean: thank you ^^ i had a nice and quite evening and no drunken mates *G*

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 17:02
Hope I didn't come off as insulting in that post SB. Just didn't understand what you meant. :clown:

navarro951
01-01-2009, 17:27
....*holds head and sighs*

Never play a drinking game called flip cup....ouch in the head*

Happy new years guys...I think ill give the senate another day as last night i hope you guys could enjoy away from the comp....I know i did.

/Bean\
01-01-2009, 17:29
We still have an entire day of the original time. However, there seems to be a lack of other edicts in the Senate. I keep trying to steer the conversation towards new edicts, but i dont think people are taking the hint

Il_Duce
01-01-2009, 17:37
We still have an entire day of the original time. However, there seems to be a lack of other edicts in the Senate. I keep trying to steer the conversation towards new edicts, but i dont think people are taking the hint

Also realize there's only 3 or 4 people that can even propose edicts.

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 17:39
Hope I didn't come off as insulting in that post SB. Just didn't understand what you meant. :clown:

This is the Senate, we only roleplay there ;-) if you are "my" political adversary, you may insult me if you wish to :laugh4:

but in this case, I do not feel insulted, i realise, that it was not clear who I spoke to

Il_Duce
01-01-2009, 17:49
I don't think people need to post OOC disclaimers that they're not actually mad at the other person. This is all IC role-playing and we understand that. In fact, it says this in the Rules and FAQ. This RP wouldn't be as fun if everybody agreed with everything everybody else says.

Also, I'm finally a member after 11 months. Hooray!

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 17:54
Congratulations :2thumbsup:

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 17:56
Wow. Really? I just asked TosaInu nicely and she said OK. Also, no offence Navarro but I think in terms of expansion we should try and not be totally historical. I mean if the Senate agrees to expand there fine but if you want to play this RP like that then I really don't think there is a point. Saying that though I am all for historical accuracy in ever other sense such as building, armies and recruitment. Just my two pennies.

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 18:23
we don't need to expand historically accurate, we write our own history. But we need to RP our history realisticly, that means not starting war with everyone etc.

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 18:24
Yes but Navarro said he didn't want to start war with Gaul and Carthage because historically the Romans didn't untill later on.

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 18:27
hm. well historically the romans did not even have a dictator at this time :beam:

/Bean\
01-01-2009, 18:27
But thats because to do it at that stage of their development would most likely have wiped them off them map...no ones going to commit their new found empire to suicide. We have two legions; we can't accurately declare war on Carthage or the Gauls, even if in the game they don't yet have huge armies.

navarro951
01-01-2009, 18:37
But thats because to do it at that stage of their development would most likely have wiped them off them map...no ones going to commit their new found empire to suicide. We have two legions; we can't accurately declare war on Carthage or the Gauls, even if in the game they don't yet have huge armies.

This is more the angle i was going for. Im not saying we have to actually do it only in 264 (Carthage Wise), i'm simply saying with our military it is not even realistically or historically sound.


we don't need to expand historically accurate, we write our own history. But we need to RP our history realisticly, that means not starting war with everyone etc.

here, another example of what i mean. were talking so much of war here and war there and it just isn't practical lets be honest.

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 18:41
i completely agree, we should not create a Roma vs all game from the beginning. of course there will be war, but as it was in history we will discuss every military action first, and of course some senators will not agree and some will. this is what makes this game funny and interesting.

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 19:00
I think you all misunderstood as I misunderstood Navarro. I meant that we shouldn't not declare war just because of historical accuracy of expansion as I tohught Navarro meant but in the mannor you have all displayed.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-01-2009, 19:27
I think that there would be more legislation proposals if Tribunus could propose them also.
At the moment most of us can only vote but that's it.

navarro951
01-01-2009, 19:31
ya thats why i may end up ending this one at 1030 Pacific GMT now. I want to get more tribunes out there to serve out their two battles and become legatus.

/Bean\
01-01-2009, 19:45
isnt it kinda, 1044 PMT now?

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 19:48
I'm assuming 10.30pm British time so we've got another couple of hours yet.

/Bean\
01-01-2009, 19:51
He said Pacific specifically..though he also said GMT...mind boggling!

Mjolnir
01-01-2009, 19:55
Happy New Years everyone. :2thumbsup:


we don't need to expand historically accurate, we write our own history. But we need to RP our history realisticly, that means not starting war with everyone etc.

I agree.


ya thats why i may end up ending this one at 1030 Pacific GMT now. I want to get more tribunes out there to serve out their two battles and become legatus.

Yeah, I think we're all edicted out, unless someone wants to introduce an edict on which type of government to be put in Bononia and Segesta.

navarro951
01-01-2009, 20:01
my bad i meant just GT as in Pacific global time. It is 11:01 right now here.

YouHaveRecieved
01-01-2009, 20:02
Ah OK, so do you mean in the morning or are you a bit late in cancelling?

navarro951
01-01-2009, 20:19
no i mean 9-10 PM ish ill announce it 2 hours early don worry

SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 20:24
Ok guys ^^ In switzerland the time now is Thursday 20:17

this means its

Amsterdam: TH, 20:17
Athens: TH, 21:17
Denver: TH, 12:17
Detroit: TH, 14:17
Dublin: TH, 19:17
Dubai: TH, 23:17
Hong Kong: TH, 03:17
Istanbul: TH, 21:17
London: TH, 19:17
Melbourne: FR, 06:17
Mumbai: FR, 00:47
New York: TH, 14:17
Shanghai: FR, 03:17
Tokyo: FR, 04:17


So. WHEN does the Session end in my country? :beam:

/Bean\
01-01-2009, 20:55
You realise that there's the main time zones down the bottom of the forums on every page dont you?



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SwissBarbar
01-01-2009, 21:54
did it look like i realised it? thanks for the hint


You realise that there's the main time zones down the bottom of the forums on every page dont you?



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/Bean\
01-01-2009, 23:46
Forgive me for the limits of modern technology but its sometimes hard to decipher sarcasm in written text. :book:

SwissBarbar
01-02-2009, 00:28
next time i'll write "pay attention: sarcasm" :laugh4:

navarro951
01-02-2009, 01:02
when the pacific clock says 20:00 thats when :clown:

edit: also, if any of you really want a new legislation proposed or something to be discussed, go in deeper and IC PM the Legatus' or Consul's and gain some political friends. ;)

Il_Duce
01-02-2009, 01:21
i completely agree, we should not create a Roma vs all game from the beginning. of course there will be war, but as it was in history we will discuss every military action first, and of course some senators will not agree and some will. this is what makes this game funny and interesting.

I agree. Roma simply didn't go out and look to pick a fight. Their land grabs were always very methodically thought out.

navarro951
01-02-2009, 02:48
hey guys, i went ahead and changed the Battle Points Column in the library to Battles Served for the unaligned tribuni. Tribunus' will never really be commanding so they wont get BPs. But it will allow me to keep track of who is eligible for Legatus.

/Bean\
01-02-2009, 04:48
To speed up our military prowess and players involvment, Navarro, maybe we can have new legions being slowly but contantly created, and then when a tribune is promoted, we can simply give him command of that legion. The continuous recruiting can almost be off the books for roleplay reasons if that makes sense, so that we dont look like we are thinking ahead like this.

Ooh, and its almost 20:00 pacific!

Il_Duce
01-02-2009, 05:46
FYI navarro I'm Tribunus Nero, not Il_Duce (check the voting thread) ;)

Mooks
01-02-2009, 06:19
To speed up our military prowess and players involvment, Navarro, maybe we can have new legions being slowly but contantly created, and then when a tribune is promoted, we can simply give him command of that legion. The continuous recruiting can almost be off the books for roleplay reasons if that makes sense, so that we dont look like we are thinking ahead like this.

Ooh, and its almost 20:00 pacific!

The campaign is set on medium difficulty though. I would imagine with constant military campaigns from members that europe will be eaten up pretty quickly.

Mjolnir
01-02-2009, 06:22
It's set on H/M actually, but yeah we should have new spots opening up all the time once things really get rolling.

/Bean\
01-02-2009, 06:31
No, the point is that you roleplay that we arent constantly making them, but its a lot better if we can just give legions to Legatus' when they rank up, rather than waiting to make them each time. We have a lot of tribunes and will only get more as more people join, theres gonna be a huge waiting list for legions if we're not careful

Mooks
01-02-2009, 06:51
It's set on H/M actually, but yeah we should have new spots opening up all the time once things really get rolling.

I was talking about the battle difficulty, I shouldve clarified that.

Maybe instead of full fledged legions you should try smaller armies. Its not like you really need that many troops for medium difficulty...

/Bean\
01-02-2009, 06:59
I already asked Navarro that a while back, but then we did only have one legion then, so I suppose he might be open the idea afresh.

Potocello
01-02-2009, 07:10
happy voting guys. and Consul Asina (everyone..?) should i move my avatar to your units or will you just take me along to the north?

navarro951
01-02-2009, 07:16
FYI navarro I'm Tribunus Nero, not Il_Duce (check the voting thread) ;)

haha wow mind messin with me...

navarro951
01-02-2009, 07:20
I already asked Navarro that a while back, but then we did only have one legion then, so I suppose he might be open the idea afresh.

i will be making Defensive small units indeed. this will have to wait a lil while longer, but ill have them for the Consul of Legions.

Il_Duce
01-02-2009, 07:21
I was talking about the battle difficulty, I shouldve clarified that.

Maybe instead of full fledged legions you should try smaller armies. Its not like you really need that many troops for medium difficulty...

I don't know why we didn't chose hard...

And smaller armies with republican armies would be dumb. 1 hastati, 1 principe, 1 triarii, 1 cav? No thanks.

navarro951
01-02-2009, 07:25
@^^^^ ya see this is why i originally didnt like the idea but i was thinking more 3 Rorarii 2 Levis, and the commanders as cav. But idk its gonna take time before i really decide on all that.

navarro951
01-02-2009, 09:20
UPDATE: I put a new piece needed for SOT posts...if all Tribunes could please post the Legion they are serving under. Thanks!:2thumbsup:

navarro951
01-02-2009, 11:38
hey guys, i went ahead and changed the Battle Points Column in the library to Battles Served for the unaligned tribuni. Tribunus' will never really be commanding so they wont get BPs. But it will allow me to keep track of who is eligible for Legatus.

Update on this as well: It is not entirely impossible however for Tribunes to command a battle. If their superior officer is not present (In real life) and tells them its okay to take the save and do the battle, then he may. If he is victorious, the tribune will automatically be promoted.

SwissBarbar
01-02-2009, 12:25
Regarding the battle difficulty: Medium is the most realistic one, playing on VH f.e. only makes foreign peasants slaughter your elite forces. Thats no fun, its just unrealistic. We just mustn't pump one army after another.

Were the Tribunii not meant to join an Army of a Legatus and fight 2 battles, so he gets Legatus himself? 2 battles happen pretty quickly.

And another question:


(1) The Tribunus is third in command of a legion. He is young and therefore must learn how to properly lead and is required to serve in a Legion under a Legatus for at least 2 battles to be promoted or serve as an aid to a Provincial Dictator for 2 years.
(2) May not lead an army of any sort and has only a vote, but no proposing power of edicts.

If the Legatus (next higher rank) is the Commander, so who's the second in command? If this means, that 1 Legatus and 2 Tribuni (second and third in command) fight in an army, so we can "create" 2 Legati per army.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-02-2009, 12:31
If the Legatus (next higher rank) is the Commander, so who's the second in command?

That's a good question! :beam:

SwissBarbar
01-02-2009, 12:32
i edited my post with an idea ^^

everyone
01-02-2009, 13:26
happy voting guys. and Consul Asina (everyone..?) should i move my avatar to your units or will you just take me along to the north?

the legions are probably not ready to move off yet, I'll notify you when Legio I Apulia is about to move off; I can help you move your avatar towards the legion when it is needed to if you want.

edit: and a question, if there are two different generals in charge of two seperate legions, and one of them attacks a target, the other general and his legion would appear as reinforcements; in the end, who would get the Battle Points? would it be split or would equal amount of the supposed battle points (e.g. clear victory grants 3 points to both in this scenario) be granted?

/Bean\
01-02-2009, 17:17
Sorry TCP missed ya out. Legio I Apulia is full now. Any tribunes applying to the legions will have to fight over the two spots in the Legio II Latium or wait for the next legion

Oh and Il_Duce, everything that happens in the Senate is taken into account for everything, but an official application will be needed in the Campus Martius. Ta

SwissBarbar
01-02-2009, 20:25
Funny, just realized, that my Character in BtSH was born in the same year as my Character in WotB

The Celtic Viking
01-02-2009, 21:19
Sorry TCP missed ya out.

No problem. Just remember that my name is The Celtic Viking, not... whatever the hell TCP stands for. :laugh4:

Ibn-Khaldun
01-02-2009, 21:28
No problem. Just remember that my name is The Celtic Viking, not... whatever the hell TCP stands for. :laugh4:

The Celtic Punk/Pike/Piking?? :beam:

/Bean\
01-02-2009, 21:51
:book: *Gets out Lists of Excuses Book for Difficult Situations* :book:

Uh...ah...Sorry, P is next to V on the keyboard...um...
Sorry, I misread your name completely
I can't actually read English
Who said I was talking to you...
...
???
F**k you A**hole (Arnie) :clown: Better?

navarro951
01-02-2009, 22:42
Regarding the battle difficulty: Medium is the most realistic one, playing on VH f.e. only makes foreign peasants slaughter your elite forces. Thats no fun, its just unrealistic. We just mustn't pump one army after another.

Were the Tribunii not meant to join an Army of a Legatus and fight 2 battles, so he gets Legatus himself? 2 battles happen pretty quickly.

And another question:

If the Legatus (next higher rank) is the Commander, so who's the second in command? If this means, that 1 Legatus and 2 Tribuni (second and third in command) fight in an army, so we can "create" 2 Legati per army.

I believe I meant to put 2nd AND 3rd in Command and was typing to fast...ill change that. And the reason its only 2 battles is because you can imagine the waiting list of Tribuni growing until we get more Legions. And even after that if the Legions dont keep growing then we have to worry about the growing list of Legatus' so i have to keep a moderate pace.


the legions are probably not ready to move off yet, I'll notify you when Legio I Apulia is about to move off; I can help you move your avatar towards the legion when it is needed to if you want.

edit: and a question, if there are two different generals in charge of two seperate legions, and one of them attacks a target, the other general and his legion would appear as reinforcements; in the end, who would get the Battle Points? would it be split or would equal amount of the supposed battle points (e.g. clear victory grants 3 points to both in this scenario) be granted?

The only person who gets BPs is the avatar whose player literally, in real life, playing the real game,:egypt:, because he makes the actual tactical decisions to win or lose the battle.

Say he loses and you weren't even the one in command, would you like to be stripped of BPs for a battle you (IN REAL LIFE) didn't even witness???

navarro951
01-02-2009, 22:46
*Gets out Lists of Excuses Book for Difficult Situations*

Uh...ah...Sorry, P is next to V on the keyboard...um...
Sorry, I misread your name completely
I can't actually read English
Who said I was talking to you...
...
???
F**K you A*****e (Arnie)

also easy on the language my friend. i dont care, but im not sure how old everyone here is. just courtesy's and i don know how the mods are bout that.

SwissBarbar
01-02-2009, 23:46
with "2 battles happen pretty quickly", I meant that this is a good thing ;-) you don't need to justify yourself :beam:

SwissBarbar
01-02-2009, 23:58
Am I blind or where's the Senate???

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 00:03
Its renamed the Curia-The curia is where the Senate met

Potocello
01-03-2009, 01:53
the legions are probably not ready to move off yet, I'll notify you when Legio I Apulia is about to move off; I can help you move your avatar towards the legion when it is needed to if you want.

would you mind moving him for me? that would just make it faster so i dont have to take the save. :2thumbsup:
____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________

found this interesting link about Tiberius Sempronius Longus. If only my avatar's name was Tiberius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Sempronius_Longus_(consul_218_BC)

navarro951
01-03-2009, 02:41
save is open!

SwissBarbar
01-03-2009, 12:55
Its renamed the Curia-The curia is where the Senate met


ah, sorry & thanks ^^

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 13:56
Ah nose. I go offline for one and a half days and miss the voting and now getting into a Legion. I am sad. Do I get inactivity?

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 13:59
I havent choson the tribunes for my legion yet...and I think there was only two people that hadnt voted anyway so it wouldnt have made any difference even if you had voted no.

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 14:15
Yes but I'm more worried about if I will get an inactivness point.

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 15:30
No, I'm going to judge it on commitment to the legions, to the direction, potential and perhaps a little personal favourtism. Some of the candidates know what I mean.:beam: Accuracy things too like Plebius will help, because Cotta is a Plebius.

everyone
01-03-2009, 15:47
I don't think there's such thing as an 'inactiveness' point, only activity. there's nothing on "inactiveness" in the library.

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 16:01
Ah, I see there is not. Well, if I ever become a Legatus I know what I'm going to propose.

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 17:56
Plymouth lost...:sweatdrop: (pretend that drops coming from the eye)

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:21
Birmingham's match agaisnt Wolves has been called off. I was looking forward to us thrashing them.

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 18:25
Is that the Birmingham thats 3rd in the table and the Wolves that's first? Hmm :laugh4:

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:26
Sorry, I didn't know the 15th placers are allowed to talk.

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 18:27
I knew that would have come up. Typical of you to stoop so low...ba dum tsch..get it? low? never mind...Nobody's going to know what we're on about, most people here arent from England

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:33
Mah, Southerners. Worthless pieces of sh... Yes, well if they don't know I will explain to them the whole rivallry between every single football in the world expecially team that never win anything so always get in fights. :clown:

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 18:34
Dont usually win the fights either...shame really. I'm glad this is the OOC thread haha

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:35
Well...
Anyway has anyone else got back to you about the Tribune postition in the army?

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 18:37
Waiting for the last two. I'm out at dawn tomorrow, so if they dont pop up tonight you may have to wait till tomorrow evening/late afternoon

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:43
No problem. Seemed like a nice idea as well the way you did it.

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 18:44
Just trying to make it more in depth and character build really

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:50
Yeah, you really put me on the spot when I had that. I had to make up a whole character plan from scratch. :clown:

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 18:51
Nah your interview was very good, in depth but not too much and covered everything I wanted really. But will it be enough? Only time will tell! Dun Dun Duuuun

YouHaveRecieved
01-03-2009, 18:57
Haha, up the tension why don't you?

Just an idea, why don't you take all the interviews and make them into a story. I'll polish up my interview and make a nice big story.

/Bean\
01-03-2009, 19:00
Like I havent got enough stories going at the minute...but what the hell I like the idea

desert
01-04-2009, 02:52
Whoever takes the save next, just move me to Taras pl0x, if Navarro hasn't already done so.

navarro951
01-04-2009, 03:43
sure thing id say um everyone you go ahead and do that!

everyone
01-04-2009, 03:49
yeah, I'll probably be taking the save now, since I'm idle. we should all put what we want done to our character on a particular turn in our SOT posts rather than here or the dictator/consul reports

Il_Duce
01-04-2009, 04:44
Cotta/Baen-

Sorry I didn't reply to your PM earlier. I was at work all day. Also, I'll be out of town for a bit tomorrow so if I don't reply right away again that's why.

Il_Duce
01-04-2009, 07:01
Hey mooks, could you put your character title in your signature? I always forget who everybody is without it.

everyone
01-04-2009, 07:50
what exactly happened to the other unit of Eqvites Romani that was in Legio I Apulia, was it disbanded? we could have just transferred it to legio II and saved 3000 denarii.
anyway if Legio II is to be completed, we'll need to stop spending money for a turn or so.

Il_Duce
01-04-2009, 07:58
Yeah. Also, is rhegion set to very high taxes? Or would that make the population too unahppy?

Another thing, for when we get further down the road (40 or 50 years or so), do you think we should set taxes more historically accurate? I think that most provinces in Latium/Italia were barely taxed and the newly conquered barbarian states were taxed highly ("beat into Romans"). Or am I off on this?

I really need to read up on Roman history :book:. I was thinking of picking up De Bello Gallico by Julius Caesar. Any other recommendations.

Mooks
01-04-2009, 08:06
Yeah. Also, is rhegion set to very high taxes? Or would that make the population too unahppy?

Another thing, for when we get further down the road (40 or 50 years or so), do you think we should set taxes more historically accurate? I think that most provinces in Latium/Italia were barely taxed and the newly conquered barbarian states were taxed highly ("beat into Romans"). Or am I off on this?

I really need to read up on Roman history :book:. I was thinking of picking up De Bello Gallico by Julius Caesar. Any other recommendations.

Might as well go historically accurate 100%. He only put the campaign difficulty on hard.

everyone
01-04-2009, 09:03
@ navarro: are you still going to implement the event you said a few pages ago?

navarro951
01-04-2009, 09:20
ya i gotta type it up tonite it'll be ready before the next turn :laugh4:

SwissBarbar
01-04-2009, 11:01
I really need to read up on Roman history :book:. I was thinking of picking up De Bello Gallico by Julius Caesar. Any other recommendations.

There's nothing I would recommend more, than Caesars Commentariorum Belli Gallici for the start. Very exciting, very well-written (AND you have the Link to EB, very soon he writes about balearic slingers and cretan archers ^^). I'd also recommend De Bello Civili after that (which unfortunately is not complete extant).

YouHaveRecieved
01-04-2009, 11:37
No point. After you became a Roman citizin there was no taxes at all but you had to fight in the army. That means there is no real point in trying to stay historical in that sense.

Mooks
01-04-2009, 12:07
No point. After you became a Roman citizin there was no taxes at all but you had to fight in the army. That means there is no real point in trying to stay historical in that sense.

Are you sure about that? I would like to see some sources. Iv read about Rome alot, and I have never heard about this.

YouHaveRecieved
01-04-2009, 12:22
I thought it was just general knowledge. I learnt it off a member here called Quintus Sertorius. He reads A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of history. In any matter the game doesn't represent Roman taxes properly anyway.

Mooks
01-04-2009, 12:39
I thought it was just general knowledge. I learnt it off a member here called Quintus Sertorius. He reads A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of history. In any matter the game doesn't represent Roman taxes properly anyway.

I just did a bit of research. There were will taxes, slave taxes, and ect but no actual head tax on any roman citizen. I never knew that.

:book:

YouHaveRecieved
01-04-2009, 12:49
It's amazing what you can find when you search. This is why I think we can't realitically simulate taxes, likewise we can't simulate population because of training taking away from the whole population, not just the strong male section.

Mooks
01-04-2009, 13:01
It's amazing what you can find when you search. This is why I think we can't realitically simulate taxes, likewise we can't simulate population because of training taking away from the whole population, not just the strong male section.

Late game im sure we can set the Italia taxes on "low" and tax the crap (crap tax? :idea2: ) out of the provinces.

YouHaveRecieved
01-04-2009, 14:03
Of course but by late game I'm sure with this tight micro managing that the game will become really fun because of civil wars. But yeah the money will start rolling in then.

Il_Duce
01-04-2009, 14:51
I'd also recommend De Bello Civili after that (which unfortunately is not complete extant).

Hmm I wonder why:skull:

navarro951
01-04-2009, 15:08
Are you sure about that? I would like to see some sources. Iv read about Rome alot, and I have never heard about this.


Its true, there were no taxes but each citizen had to serve 10 years minimum of military service which is basically one campaign...say serving all of the march through Germania.

SwissBarbar
01-04-2009, 16:05
Hmm I wonder why:skull:

*G* well, even the start is missing and the end also... so its not because he died... at least the start-part :beam:

/Bean\
01-04-2009, 16:23
Maybe he ran out of ink...or couldn't find any...

Hey Navarro, did you get this wrong in the library?

1.4 Legatus, Aedile of Taras Caivs Avrelivs Cotta Baen 1 1 0

Ibn-Khaldun
01-04-2009, 17:26
Another thing I noticed that was wrong in Library is this:


1 Dictator, Consul of Finance Manivs Curivs Dentatvs navarro951 8 1 0
1.1 Heres Cnaevs Cornelivs Blasio Un-Playable 3 0 0
1.2 Dux, Consul of the Legions Cnaevs Cornelivs Scipio Asina everyone 4 1 10

It should be this:


1.1 Dictator, Consul of Finance Manivs Curivs Dentatvs navarro951 8 1 0
2.1 Heres Cnaevs Cornelivs Blasio Un-Playable 3 0 0
2.2 Dux, Consul of the Legions Cnaevs Cornelivs Scipio Asina everyone 4 1 10

1.1 - First generation, first general
2.1 - Second generation, first general

But if you have another system then ignore this post ~:)

navarro951
01-05-2009, 03:57
Wow Blasio cant seem to get his wife to pop out a boy lol:embarassed:

everyone
01-05-2009, 12:08
Asina can't get his to pop any out! gah.

edit: Asina's staying in Roma because I'm role-playing the logistical problems of Legio I and communication problem with Cotta's Legio II; but I can't find anywhere to put that IC.

YouHaveRecieved
01-05-2009, 17:54
It because there is nothing to do really for anyone that only Everyone and Navarros has taken the saves. People are waiting on the Legions to mobolize and choise of Tribunes for the legions.

Mjolnir
01-05-2009, 19:09
Yeah, until/if I got mobilize for Cotta's legion I want to stay in Roma where there's a school. I would guess more people will start taking the save once we start getting more people into and above the Legatus rank.

Mooks
01-05-2009, 21:27
Once read that the EB modders actually made Rome that way. Rome was historically a faction that where birth didnt matter as much as the rest of the world back then. Still mattered, but not where in Parthia since you were related to the king you were guaranteed a post somewhere. So Rome gets very very few male babies if any.

/Bean\
01-05-2009, 21:35
That doesnt mean that Roman's had less sex than people who lived in kingdoms just because they were a republic...

Mooks
01-05-2009, 21:50
That doesnt mean that Roman's had less sex than people who lived in kingdoms just because they were a republic...


Ya but if you have a baby in Rome back then he wasnt automatically going to be a consul like you were, theres a better chance though. The game simulates that by giving you adoption choices, not lineage.

/Bean\
01-05-2009, 22:28
I would have said most ancient civilisations would choose their next king/equivalent through strength rather than birth right. People weren't that patient.

Potocello
01-06-2009, 04:22
who are you accepting as your Trubinii Baen? I'm quite curious :beam: and good luck to those who applied

/Bean\
01-06-2009, 08:16
I'm waiting for the Consul of the Legions to approve, then I'll announce it at the Campvs Martivs

navarro951
01-06-2009, 08:45
^^^ i assume u got mine then yes?

/Bean\
01-06-2009, 08:49
Yeep, but if Everyone doesn't respond by the time I get home tonight then I'll just go ahead. Can't keep everybody waiting much longer

everyone
01-06-2009, 14:37
hmmm, I think I'm going to use one of my consular powers soon; the one on force transferring an ancillary. who wants to volunteer their physician/herbalist/medical-related person ancillary?

SwissBarbar
01-06-2009, 15:02
what for, to who? :inquisitive:

everyone
01-06-2009, 15:08
well, for Asina, because I have a feeling that I'm going have rather high casualties in the siege assault; and the other medical-related ancillary would reduce casualties.

SwissBarbar
01-06-2009, 16:53
Until I am Tribunus in an army, which happens soon as I hope, you can have my Chirurgeon. But I want him back, when I go to war, please ;-)

navarro951
01-07-2009, 00:34
Ya just make sure you announce that in your report so we all remember it was transferred for good reason, and you reason Everyone i totally agree...you and Baen got one tough campaign ahead of you. Just think when its all said and done you'll be the glorious commanders who finished the uniting of Itlaia, or a dead consul and dead legatus :sweatdrop:

SwissBarbar
01-07-2009, 19:17
Yep, I did.

Potocello
01-07-2009, 20:16
Ya just make sure you announce that in your report so we all remember it was transferred for good reason, and you reason Everyone i totally agree...you and Baen got one tough campaign ahead of you. Just think when its all said and done you'll be the glorious commanders who finished the uniting of Itlaia, or a dead consul and dead legatus :sweatdrop:

haha :laugh4: let's hope we don't have a dead consul and legatus on our hands

Mooks
01-07-2009, 20:52
I would have said most ancient civilisations would choose their next king/equivalent through strength rather than birth right. People weren't that patient.

Then you know very little ancient history.

/Bean\
01-07-2009, 21:23
Are you saying that throughout history, long before standards we have now, that people cared nothing for strength, only birthright...no matter who the person in question? That every single rebellion, uprising, battle and argument has been for the rightful succession to a higher order by birth? And you say I know little...

Mjolnir
01-07-2009, 22:03
Succession by birthright was the general rule and those uprisings and such are noteable because they are the exception.

Mooks
01-08-2009, 00:26
Are you saying that throughout history, long before standards we have now, that people cared nothing for strength, only birthright...no matter who the person in question? That every single rebellion, uprising, battle and argument has been for the rightful succession to a higher order by birth? And you say I know little...

Birthright in kingdoms was much more important then who was the best warrior/general. Especially in the East. In this case the middle east but also in asia.

navarro951
01-08-2009, 00:30
You know i was just thinking...Manivs is gettin old surprised hes making it I want to just start playing as Blasio and make our first Imperial Legion haha

Mooks
01-08-2009, 05:04
I have just read that I have recruited a physician in my retinue. Dont know why, since my character is like Obama (perfect physical shape, practically a greek god).

Jokes aside, feel free to send him with the army.

navarro951
01-08-2009, 05:21
well youll have to take that up with the ppl in the army (ie. tribunes and their commanders) so handle that with a PM!

Il_Duce
01-08-2009, 05:23
You know i was just thinking...Manivs is gettin old surprised hes making it I want to just start playing as Blasio and make our first Imperial Legion haha

You might as well. Manivs has served the Republic well

Mooks
01-08-2009, 05:30
well youll have to take that up with the ppl in the army (ie. tribunes and their commanders) so handle that with a PM!

Theres like 2 active topics on this whole sub-forum. Someone in the army who is in charge of that stuff is bound to read this.

That, and im lazy.

navarro951
01-08-2009, 05:44
haha ya i suppose

everyone
01-08-2009, 09:48
whoa, sorry guys I couldn't logon to the guild yesterday because of some internet error or something; if I could then the campaign would already have started, I'll just download the save and check some stuff first; then proceed with the campaign (if possible) and the CotL report
and I can't take the save at regular times now that I have school and this year is going to be a killer

Ibn-Khaldun
01-08-2009, 10:10
whoa, sorry guys I couldn't logon to the guild yesterday because of some internet error or something

Gah! So I wasn't the only one!

everyone
01-08-2009, 10:38
darn. it seems Asina can't have any more stuff added to his retinue; darned body slave, slave trader, playwright, musician and biographer; I don't even need them gah!

anyway, has anyone ever fought a siege battle with two general-led armies of the same faction? if so, could you control both armies? because I'm afraid if either Baen or I play the battle and the other legion cannot be controlled by the player, we're in deep shit because who knows what dumb things the AI would do like charge all the tribuni and horsemen into a load of gaeroas blocking the gate.

SwissBarbar
01-08-2009, 11:05
Gah! So I wasn't the only one!

Me neither :inquisitive: :inquisitive: The whole day.

But no one asked about that in the forum in the evening, so I thought this error was announced, and I just did not get it once again ^^

everyone
01-08-2009, 14:29
anyone has an answer to the question?

anyway navarro I found something irregular with the periods between congressional sessions


Proposed Laws
Awaiting 267 Congressional Council

shouldn't it be 266?

everyone
01-08-2009, 15:27
The .org has a PBM uploader? Where? I'll use that instead. I'll move my legion when I get home; I'm at school right now.
yes, it's under site tools, 'links and downloads', 'pbm', '2008'
gah! your school's internet access doesn't block the guild! mine does :furious3:

/Bean\
01-08-2009, 15:28
Just join the legions and you fight the battle. Can always seperate them slightly in the battle, group them, and control both.

And it does block it. But we've recently had wireless put in the sixth form centre and thats easy to work around.

YouHaveRecieved
01-08-2009, 17:13
I am in the Legio II, as in, in the stack?

/Bean\
01-08-2009, 19:41
Your in my Legion, which in turn is standing next to Everyone's legion, both besieging Bononia

YouHaveRecieved
01-08-2009, 20:00
Ah, sounds cool. Just comfuddled me with the post in the other thread.

navarro951
01-09-2009, 00:04
@ everyone
yes it should my bad!

navarro951
01-09-2009, 00:26
@ Baen on the sign up question you asked

that will come in due time the house/family think is great fun i think LoTR is given proof that...besides Praetors decide family sponsorship meaning that it would also require a change in rules.

navarro951
01-09-2009, 00:32
Also everyone, your report said 276 hehe i went ahead and edited it for you!

/Bean\
01-09-2009, 00:36
I know, I just think this would be a good prelude to the family/house system. On a smaller scale, when they only influence felt is the collection of votes.

Potocello
01-09-2009, 02:26
wooooo laying seige to Bononia, i hope no one's avatar is killed in the upcoming invasions. Now that i mention that, what happens if your avatar dies? request a new one?

navarro951
01-09-2009, 02:29
yup you start over and play as if you were never your previous avatar...of course his death can be mourned and discussed whatever

Potocello
01-09-2009, 04:01
cool cool. what happens for you as the dictator? do you take control of the heirs? or is someone else appointed?

navarro951
01-09-2009, 04:38
well because this Dictator dies so early i sort of reserved Blasio, but no after that I will select a new heir. after Blasio dies though ill try and focus more on being a game master and helping to better all your experiences...ive been sending messages left and right im tryin to get new members...

navarro951
01-09-2009, 07:45
how come one of you to legion commanders hasn't fought the battle?

/Bean\
01-09-2009, 08:35
It's Everyone's job unless he says otherwise. You have to take in time differences, Navarro. Basically it takes two days for messages to go between him, me then you, because we all live at different points in the world

navarro951
01-09-2009, 08:59
no ya i understand that but im just saying technically while he out ranks you in-game, you could lead the battle if you want unless it is a Dux campaign which this is not. If you guys already agreed he would take it don lemme stand in the way of that good planning smart :2thumbsup:

/Bean\
01-09-2009, 09:01
We havent agreed, but if he hasnt done it by the time you wake up, I'll do it. Gives him 8 or so hours

everyone
01-09-2009, 13:18
oh hi. just came back from school and had my dinner.
thanks for waiting for me Baen, I'll just try to assault the settlement now and see my results; if it's a victory I'll just post the save and let the game carry on; but I'll let you fight the next battle that includes both legions (because when we attack the next settlement I'll probably be busier than I am now)

edit: gah! navarro didn't post the link to the new save. I'll have to wait a while...

edit 2: I'm going to sleep now so I'll take the save around 8 hours (or less) from now, I already PMed Navarro about it

Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
01-09-2009, 17:13
There's 11 pages to this thread and I don't want to dig through them all - Is this game 1.2 compatible, or just 1.1?

YouHaveRecieved
01-09-2009, 17:18
Just 1.1 because we started with 1.1 and we can't upgrade to 1.2 because it isn't save game compatible.

Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
01-09-2009, 17:32
Just 1.1 because we started with 1.1 and we can't upgrade to 1.2 because it isn't save game compatible.

:dizzy2: Oh noes! Time to install a second version of EB at the inferior 1.1 :-P
But, I'm at work and that will have to wait for another 6.5 hours

/Bean\
01-09-2009, 17:42
Theres not very much different in 1.1....

YouHaveRecieved
01-09-2009, 18:14
Just a few minor tweaks with client rulers and various bug tweaks.

Mjolnir
01-09-2009, 18:22
I'm looking forward to seeing the Bononia battle report. :2thumbsup:

When is the recruitment of Legio III going to begin? After this battle I believe TCV will have two battles under his belt and will be able to command it.

SwissBarbar
01-09-2009, 18:59
Actually, do we have to name the legions after a region? Or can we just think of good names, Legio III Rapax, Victrix, or after its target, gallica, germanica...? Regionlegions are boring by time

/Bean\
01-09-2009, 19:14
Propose it in the Senate see how many votes you get.

The Celtic Viking
01-09-2009, 20:53
I'm looking forward to seeing the Bononia battle report. :2thumbsup:

When is the recruitment of Legio III going to begin? After this battle I believe TCV will have two battles under his belt and will be able to command it.

Really? Then perhaps it's time for me to stop lurking and start to actually play this game already! :laugh4:

Il_Duce
01-09-2009, 21:07
Actually, do we have to name the legions after a region? Or can we just think of good names, Legio III Rapax, Victrix, or after its target, gallica, germanica...? Regionlegions are boring by time

If we're playing historically accurate then the Romans named their legions after both regions and cool sounding stuff, so I don't see any problems with this.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-09-2009, 23:20
I haven't checked the save but have my character moved to Ariminum already or is he still in a fort near Roma???

Mooks
01-09-2009, 23:33
If we're playing historically accurate then the Romans named their legions after both regions and cool sounding stuff, so I don't see any problems with this.

I always thought they named their legions with numbers. The X (10?) legion being the most popular, and most loved by Caesar.

everyone
01-10-2009, 00:06
@Ibn: the last time I saw Q.F. Licinius, he's already in ariminum

navarro951
01-10-2009, 00:07
Hey yall, totally embarassing haha forgot to put the save up after typing me report. it is up now and sorry im extending the save another 24 hours if neccesary so the battle can be fought.

@Ibn, yes i moved your avatar there.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-10-2009, 00:07
As far as I can remember then in the times of Republic they named legions with numbers only. Later, during imperial times they got these other names too.

/Bean\
01-10-2009, 00:17
Julius Caesar named a disgraced legion the Tenth while he was on campaign with Pompey. He gained control of this legion after they were forced to face decimation for fleeing from battle against Spartacus. When charged with decimation, every tenth man in the legion is selected to be beaten to death by his own comrades. Caesar called them the Tenth so that they would not run again for the shame. The numbered legions followed after that.

navarro951
01-10-2009, 00:19
I'm looking forward to seeing the Bononia battle report. :2thumbsup:

When is the recruitment of Legio III going to begin? After this battle I believe TCV will have two battles under his belt and will be able to command it.

Legio III will be made as soon as Italia is united so until then TCVs avatar will continue to serve in his respective legion or can come back to Roma and await the completion of his men's training.


Actually, do we have to name the legions after a region? Or can we just think of good names, Legio III Rapax, Victrix, or after its target, gallica, germanica...? Regionlegions are boring by time

I sort of like the number and region think it makes for good roleplay in the future like (Latiums legions bring glory to Roma! Or they can be named after a city if they are proposed that way as well.)


Propose it in the Senate see how many votes you get.
What ever you guys propose as a name will be voted on so ya this may be done. There is still a CA that shows how the legion must be named so you will have to vote on changing that too if you want to get this done.


Really? Then perhaps it's time for me to stop lurking and start to actually play this game already! :laugh4:

Haha indeed, all in due time friend!


If we're playing historically accurate then the Romans named their legions after both regions and cool sounding stuff, so I don't see any problems with this.

Same feelings here.

navarro951
01-10-2009, 00:20
Julius Caesar named a disgraced legion the Tenth while he was on campaign with Pompey. He gained control of this legion after they were forced to face decimation for fleeing from battle against Spartacus. When charged with decimation, every tenth man in the legion is selected to be beaten to death by his own comrades. Caesar called them the Tenth so that they would not run again for the shame. The numbered legions followed after that.

ya i read the story of the "Every Tenth man Discipline" very gruesome stuff...at times their own comrades were forced to beat them to death or face the sentence themselves.

/Bean\
01-10-2009, 00:23
Yep it was the toughest form of discipline in the army, and was kept in force throughout the entire Roman era. It worked most of time; the thought of being killed by your own comrades (ranks were included) was enough to stop them running in battle.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-10-2009, 00:48
@Ibn, yes i moved your avatar there.

Thanks! :bow:

Ibn-Khaldun
01-10-2009, 01:12
Gah! Why does Ariminum have Type4 government??:inquisitive:
We can't build anything there and we can't recruit anyone from there as well!!

Mjolnir
01-10-2009, 01:14
I think we needed something quick and cheap. It can be upgraded in the future when have a little more money to throw around.

EDIT: @ everyone - at least give us a screenshot of the victory scroll for the battle of Bononia.

everyone
01-10-2009, 01:19
yay. Bononia has been captured and the rest of the details for now are in my consul report, I'll post the battle report sometime later today; for now I'll just post a picture of the results. fortunately, the battle went better than how I tested it when I ran through it last week and it was a clear victory instead of a close one.

Mjolnir
01-10-2009, 01:22
Excellent. ~:cheers:

Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
01-10-2009, 01:31
Hey there, I've just been accepted; but I don't know where to get the save game from. I need to look at my avatar attributes / my starting position so I can develop backstory etc; and get a better picture of everything that's going on in the Curia.

I won't move anyone/do anything as I have not even been accepted to a Legion/made my voice heard in the Senate (no story to explain why I'm there!) Thanks in advance for helping a n00b.

Ad victoria!

Mjolnir
01-10-2009, 02:07
Welcome aboard. :beam: Go to the BtSH Dictator & Consul Reports thread and click and save the latest saved game, put it in your EB saved games folder and you're good to go.

Il_Duce
01-10-2009, 02:17
Julius Caesar named a disgraced legion the Tenth while he was on campaign with Pompey. He gained control of this legion after they were forced to face decimation for fleeing from battle against Spartacus. When charged with decimation, every tenth man in the legion is selected to be beaten to death by his own comrades. Caesar called them the Tenth so that they would not run again for the shame. The numbered legions followed after that.

In other news, this story is a load of crap with no historic accuracy at all :no::thumbsdown:

navarro951
01-10-2009, 02:34
which part Il_Duce? the Tenth man beating this is true.

navarro951
01-10-2009, 02:48
Also, hey Mooks you know you havent done your SOT post yet.

everyone
01-10-2009, 03:11
about the quaestor thing, what units can I select from the Aemilia region? from the recruitment viewer, the only native units that are available as soon as possible are Polybian-era units from the level 2 MIC; and the regionals are from level 3 MIC; so it would be a long time before Asina can get his bodyguard units.

navarro951
01-10-2009, 03:13
ya i know you sorta landed that rank in the worst time, ill PM you we may have to make an exception.

Il_Duce
01-10-2009, 07:25
which part Il_Duce? the Tenth man beating this is true.

I know what decimation is, but Legions are not numbered because of that.

The first numbered Legion (I Germanica) was levied by Julius Caesar in 48 BC to help in his war vs Pompey.

Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
01-10-2009, 08:18
Question re: version of EB being used -

should 1.1 be patched with any fixes? If so, please let me know which ones before I try to load the save and move my character.

Thanks!

Mjolnir
01-10-2009, 08:32
It shouldn't make a difference.

/Bean\
01-10-2009, 19:37
Sorry guys, I have a lot of problems with my EB installation. I've got to completely clear all my stuff, then reinstall it all. I won't be able to play any battles until its done. Should be done tonight though.

The Celtic Viking
01-10-2009, 21:09
(6) Every Provincial Dictator will have an 8 unit Provincial Legion similar to a Standard Legion. Every Prov.Dictator should mention what type of Legion they wish: a) an Infantry legion(4 infantry, 1 missile, 1 cavalry regiment); b) a Cavalry Auxilla( 1 infantry, 1 missile, 4 cavalry regiments); c) or a Mixed Legion(2 infantry, 2 missile, 2 cavalry regiments). They can however get to recruit 1 local unit for every 2 Influence points and 1 local unit for every 3 Command stars. (The unit type of the additional units can be what ever the Satrap chooses)

The bold parts seem to contradict each other. According to to the first bolded part there should be 8 units, but in the three kinds there are only 6 units given. Where are the remaining 2?

navarro951
01-10-2009, 21:50
Well when i wrote that i sort of wrote it on a Roma at the larger scale...right now 6 works with the money we are making...later it will be 8 that should say 6.

/Bean\
01-10-2009, 22:23
Codswallop, Il_Duce! Anyway, no one knows for sure whats true or not from those times, its just what is most accepted. I like to think that version is good. Plus I believe there was the The Third Gallic (or similar) that came before the German one. Who knows...different people, different versions. It doesnt matter anyway.

everyone
01-11-2009, 00:18
Sorry guys, I have a lot of problems with my EB installation. I've got to completely clear all my stuff, then reinstall it all. I won't be able to play any battles until its done. Should be done tonight though.

you might want to update your SOT post to notify navarro what to do with Cotta and Legio II when he takes the save

/Bean\
01-11-2009, 00:45
Through my awesomeness divine wisdom quick thinking associate...I have decided that I will update my SOT post, so that Navarro may move Legio II Latium should my EB not be functional sometime soon. Aren't I awesome, wise and quick thinking :2thumbsup:

/Bean\
01-11-2009, 00:51
I managed to find my rtw cd 1 again. And I can begin taking saves. Are you guys going to handle it for now and let me get in it later on?

Iv been playing rtw since it came out, and total war games since shogun.

Handle what, Mooks? You don't need to go anywhere and you can't move anyone elses avatars or meddle in other avatar's affairs. Theres not much reason for you to take the save.


You mean liberated?

:2thumbsup:

My bad

Mooks
01-11-2009, 00:58
Handle what, Mooks? You don't need to go anywhere and you can't move anyone elses avatars or meddle in other avatar's affairs. Theres not much reason for you to take the save.



My bad

Good point. I just thought navarro wanted someone else to start taking saves since he said "I just noticed me and everyone are the only one taking saves". Was he the one that said that? Anyway I just thought you needed another guy.

Once you do though, ill be here.

And no offense on the ancient history thing. Didnt mean to insult you if I did.

/Bean\
01-11-2009, 01:01
Nah, its because he's probably used to WotB when everybody wants the save. We havent progressed far enough yet.

And you think I'd use a word like Codswallop if i felt insulted? :laugh4:

Mooks
01-11-2009, 01:20
Nah, its because he's probably used to WotB when everybody wants the save. We havent progressed far enough yet.

And you think I'd use a word like Codswallop if i felt insulted? :laugh4:

Id never heard of Codswallop. Anything can be a insult when your talking to a guy from Arrrgyle.

navarro951
01-11-2009, 03:16
Ill be sending Blasio out with Legio II, hell command it for now (ill command it for now)

Il_Duce
01-11-2009, 03:57
And you think I'd use a word like Codswallop if i felt insulted? :laugh4:

Have you ever seen the movie "A Clockwork Orange"? In my imagination, all British people talk like Alex De Large (Malcolm McDowell) does :laugh4:

navarro951
01-11-2009, 04:59
sorry guys lot of studying to do, i will end the turn today but it will take a few hours...all moves are done so i think it can wait. Plus i wanna work out a few plans and ideas regarding what will be put in stone ,so to speak, as our plan after the solidification of Italia.

desert
01-11-2009, 05:12
Let's conquer the entire world in the next 20 years - just because we can. :smash:

navarro951
01-11-2009, 05:17
nice i second the motion!:egypt:

everyone
01-11-2009, 05:23
which direction shall we start conquering?

Il_Duce
01-11-2009, 05:36
which direction shall we start conquering?

This should be something discussed in the Curia and I suggest we take it there-- we need as much RP as we can :2thumbsup:

desert
01-11-2009, 06:03
Oh, god no, I was only kidding. :sweatdrop:

That would be terrible.

everyone
01-11-2009, 10:01
we might need more money and troops if we do so, the large garrison of mediolanum is really intimidating, even to two (or three) legions; especially because it's a barbarian settlement and the layout of barbarian settlements are always very messy, so troop can never move in a straight line and have to curve their route three times just to walk across a town square

Ibn-Khaldun
01-11-2009, 10:48
Nah, its because he's probably used to WotB when everybody wants the save. We havent progressed far enough yet.

In WotB we started with AS that already had over 20 provinces and thus it was possible to move your avatar to where ever you wanted. But here at the moment.. well.. you can cross the Republic from one border to another in one season and it's not funny to do that over and over again! :beam:

Ibn-Khaldun
01-11-2009, 10:54
Taking the save to see if my avatar has acquired new traits, put him in Roma, and get a good visual idea of the map, etc. Not touching anything else.

You don't have to post in the Reports thread if you just 'watch' and don't 'touch'. Posting 'Taking the save' only because you want to watch might take away the chance that someone else who wants to move his avatar can take the save.

navarro951
01-11-2009, 10:54
^^^ya this is obvious, as said many times before, with expansion, and with new legions everyone will get a chance to fight, govern, etc. I think the funnest part will be the Punic Wars and taking the Illyrian parts of the Epeirote Empire. I can just imagine the panic will be in rushing into Sicilia and Illyria its going to be great. Sadly I also foresee our first in-combat deaths. :thumbsdown:

@Ibn: We just got reacquainted with that in WoTB ey? So sad poor poor nikanor...poor poor Parthian Army.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-11-2009, 10:59
^^^ya this is obvious, as said many times before, with expansion, and with new legions everyone will get a chance to fight, govern, etc. I think the funnest part will be the Punic Wars and taking the Illyrian parts of the Epeirote Empire. I can just imagine the panic will be in rushing into Sicilia and Illyria its going to be great. Sadly I also foresee our first in-combat deaths. :thumbsdown:

@Ibn: We just got reacquainted with that in WoTB ey? So sad poor poor nikanor...poor poor Parthian Army.

I would say poor Roka actually! It's his second character who have died by enemies hands!! :beam:

Also, I suggest that when ever you think that you can't take the save to fight some battles then you should make a SOT post that allows Consuls to move your avatars away from the fight or this what happened in WotB will happen here as well.

navarro951
01-11-2009, 11:02
Actually, thats a very good point...I hope everyone will take note! And ya hehe Roka:sweatdrop:. He's been very inactive lately though. :juggle2:

SwissBarbar
01-11-2009, 11:52
@Ibn: We just got reacquainted with that in WoTB ey? So sad poor poor nikanor...poor poor Parthian Army.

yes, i just got the terrible news :sweatdrop:

Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
01-11-2009, 18:10
Originally Posted by In the Reports thread
Taking the save to see if my avatar has acquired new traits, put him in Roma, and get a good visual idea of the map, etc. Not touching anything else. You don't have to post in the Reports thread if you just 'watch' and don't 'touch'. Posting 'Taking the save' only because you want to watch might take away the chance that someone else who wants to move his avatar can take the save.

Moving a character requires a save, no?

Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
01-11-2009, 18:46
This is probably old hat to you salt dogs out there; but I thought it was pretty motivating for fans of the Romaioi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiuWcv-Rp5M

Roma Victor!

SwissBarbar
01-11-2009, 18:57
Moving a character requires a save, no?

yes

The Celtic Viking
01-11-2009, 20:11
This is probably old hat to you salt dogs out there; but I thought it was pretty motivating for fans of the Romaioi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiuWcv-Rp5M

Roma Victor!

Ugh. Not only is "Legion Strong" an oxymoron, that movie is just reeking of lies and propaganda...

Wait, did it actually list the strength to get over yourself as one of the definitions of "Legion Strong"? :laugh4:

navarro951
01-11-2009, 21:56
hehehe easy TCV...eaaasy my barb friend. I would ever doubt the power of your Naked warriors. NAKED STRONG!

SwissBarbar
01-11-2009, 21:57
hehehe easy TCV...eaaasy my barb friend. I would ever doubt the power of your Naked warriors. NAKED STRONG!


:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: Make a video ^^

navarro951
01-11-2009, 21:59
OMG if i had that kind of video skills....I SO WOULD! haha :idea2:

Mooks
01-11-2009, 22:07
Ugh. Not only is "Legion Strong" an oxymoron, that movie is just reeking of lies and propaganda...

Wait, did it actually list the strength to get over yourself as one of the definitions of "Legion Strong"? :laugh4:

When you actually read what the legionarys were able to do (An example :Caesars gallic legions could force march themselves 50 miles with over 60lb of equipment and still construct a fortified camp at the end of the day) they can be compared more to the special forces of the U.S army then just regular army. They were some tough motherfuckers.

Ibn-Khaldun
01-11-2009, 22:11
Please watch your language! ~:)

The Celtic Viking
01-11-2009, 22:40
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: Make a video ^^

If you know what's best for you, you shouldn't give me any ideas like that... ~;p

navarro951
01-11-2009, 22:51
If you know what's best for you, you shouldn't give me any ideas like that... ~;p

HEHE DO IT! i wanna see that actually, who knows this conversation may start a chain of vids like that from different faction fans...Pontus Strong Getai Strong AS Strong hahaa :egypt:


Please watch your language! ~:)

Yes careful, don wanna hear complaints from mods, and as i mentioned the last time someone swore, I dont care how old everyone playing this is, but there may always be young'ns.

Also due to the fact i have class for 4 hours today, ill be taking the save at 15:30 PACIFIC so you guys can keep the game going and what not. Otherwise it wont be till 2morrow. Plus i think im the only move, the battle that is.

johnhughthom
01-11-2009, 23:35
Nice to see this has really taken off guys, must admit I had my doubts it would work. Wish Steam made it easier to have more that one copy of RTW running...

navarro951
01-12-2009, 02:04
Nice to see this has really taken off guys, must admit I had my doubts it would work. Wish Steam made it easier to have more that one copy of RTW running...

o thats a bummer, id like to have you join up :2thumbsup:

you know, I completely blame the AI for Asina's death:sweatdrop:. His unit plowed deep into Conans bodyguard and did major damage, but it just kept pushing and ended up sort of on its own. Seconds after i flanked the unit surrounding it was too late i guess. That was a tough battle indeed.

Ill have some new avatars for you soon everyone.

desert
01-12-2009, 02:10
I think we're due for an angst-filled Stories Thread update from baen right about now. :shame: