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navarro951
12-22-2008, 06:01
This is the OOC Thread for Beyond the Seven Hills. This thread is for "Out-Of Character" chat for BtSH players. No important information will ever be posted in here. This thread does not count as a "public thread" for the purposes of the BtSH rules. No information posted in this thread will be considered as binding on the Consul or Dictator. In short, this thread has no official relationship to BtSH in any capacity. It is a chatroom.

navarro951
12-22-2008, 06:04
OOC: this is just for the 3 years trial correct?

Well in a sense yes...all our pages will remain in the throne room till we have been given a sub-forum which i hope we will get at the end of those 3 years.

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 09:06
Hey, looking good Navarro. Looks like I have missed out by being asleep...catch up time

navarro951
12-22-2008, 09:36
@everyone yes tribunus' can vote and second, but not propose. In other news, having problems with getting my damn Recruitable Generals to work so hopefully by tomorrow i can get that going so we can gain new members after this trial here.

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 11:18
How's the generals looking, Navarro? Any progress?

And where's Roka, he's missing out :embarassed:

TinCow
12-22-2008, 14:43
FYI, this game will get its own subforum if it gets off the ground and advances a couple turns.

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 14:46
Ooh cheers TC

navarro951
12-22-2008, 19:55
How's the generals looking, Navarro? Any progress?

And where's Roka, he's missing out :embarassed:


may of just had a breakthrough like...right now hahah

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 20:50
Ah that is good news.

Now, a suggestion. Since we have so few players atm, might it make more sense to disband the congrssional session today rather than tomorrow. I feel that everything has been said; we've all run out of moves and edicts. What do you reckon?

navarro951
12-22-2008, 20:58
ya i was just about to say lol...okay made my final changes im gonna see if the RGB's work now so gimme a sec before i close it, if theres any other things you guys wanna say do it now :laugh4:

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 21:07
I'm not allowed :laugh4:

navarro951
12-22-2008, 21:11
Okay i am proud to say we got RGBs workn now and I will have two ready for next year so we can play with a few more ppl during this trial here.

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 21:14
Get on Navverz. Problem is...we havent had any other people check in here to say they're interested...

navarro951
12-22-2008, 21:29
no i got a couple of PM's who want in besides im only lookin for two more right now..well do three years hopefully get our sub-forum and then im sure we will get a larger crowd...gotta consider its the holidays too

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 21:32
Ah cool. Plus TC said we may not have to do three years-look up there ^^

navarro951
12-22-2008, 21:37
Ah cool. Plus TC said we may not have to do three years-look up there ^^

ya well i figure the first Consul term will suffice at least but ya we may get it sooner I HOPE ahah

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 21:39
Its a shame about the beginning, we only have three people to vote, and theres nothing to vote against. Oh well, can't wait till we progress.

navarro951
12-22-2008, 21:41
ya obviously these things take time and then youve got more members then you can handle

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 21:42
Can't wait :laugh4:

navarro951
12-22-2008, 21:43
ya you will get to see our Senatorial Library in a few im workin on it right now

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 21:49
Need me to help with anything? I feel very helpless

Wow that was quick

navarro951
12-22-2008, 21:53
haha well theres way more thats just the first one...

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 22:34
Will i be right in thinking the last few posts will make more sense in time?

navarro951
12-22-2008, 22:45
which posts?

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 22:53
the library ones that were 'recent' when i posted the question :laugh4:

navarro951
12-22-2008, 22:56
o haha ya just click around youll make sense of it

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 23:00
Nah its fine. Theres just nothign we can post yet is there, because we havent achieved anything

navarro951
12-22-2008, 23:05
right ya it will take time shoot you should check out LoTR's theirs is soooo long haha

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 23:06
If everythign works out it will be worth it

navarro951
12-22-2008, 23:11
o absolutely, okay voting is starting this will be quick.

Vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=110769)

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 23:19
Woo my wifes a minor!! Did that sound wrong...I apologise...:2thumbsup::whip:

Oh and just a couple of points: In future we need to be careful that the edicts dont contradict each other. I know it was basically unavoidable, but 1.2 kinda only exists because we assume everyone wil vote yes to 1.1. Just a little not for the future, not a contradiction.

And second, can we post anything in the voting polls, like IC story bits, like why we voted how we did and the such?

navarro951
12-22-2008, 23:31
yes but only after the votes are finished and counted

navarro951
12-22-2008, 23:39
The saves open now so you can move yourselves to the fort to get ready to go with the legions

/Bean\
12-22-2008, 23:40
The same save as last time?

Where has it disapperead to

Roka
12-23-2008, 00:10
sorry i took so long, been busy all day

navarro951
12-23-2008, 00:24
Go here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=110733) to take the save and do your moves guys....if you dont know how (download save and put it in you EB saves folder and your all set. Then do your move, save it, compact it to a RAR file, and upload it back on with what you did IC)

Potocello
12-23-2008, 01:15
hope the trial is going well. i know i sure am looking forward to when we get more people interested

everyone
12-23-2008, 01:16
ah I finally voted, so I presume to save is open for all to do their moves?

navarro951
12-23-2008, 05:31
ah I finally voted, so I presume to save is open for all to do their moves?


indeed it is go ahead!

/Bean\
12-23-2008, 18:25
Hey Potocello, Navarro has already created two new avatars. If you ask him nicely, you may be able to join today. If they are already taken, then it wont be very long until theres plenty more to choose from.

Also, Navarro...You may want to ignore this, but the Roman Family Tree is not designed like some of the other factions trees. I just dont like to think there was one roman who spawned all these different families...like the Scipii. Just wondering really, but should we all really be your sons, or even your familiy?

navarro951
12-23-2008, 19:05
Hey Potocello, Navarro has already created two new avatars. If you ask him nicely, you may be able to join today. If they are already taken, then it wont be very long until theres plenty more to choose from.

Also, Navarro...You may want to ignore this, but the Roman Family Tree is not designed like some of the other factions trees. I just dont like to think there was one roman who spawned all these different families...like the Scipii. Just wondering really, but should we all really be your sons, or even your familiy?

the reason i keep you as my son is through adoption or birthright. Somwhere down the line you would have royal "family" ties to me it would only make sense. You may not be my actual son but you would look to me as your father, and to each other as brothers.

also @everyone, you are totally allowed to use your legion as you wish, but try and save them for now in the fort so you are at full attack strength for Taras.

@Baen try and compact your save to a RAR nextime, no worries just takes so long when it aint haha

navarro951
12-23-2008, 19:13
okay guys story and battle report thread is up so make up a good one, and everyone throw ur battle report in the BR room.

navarro951
12-23-2008, 20:08
Save open! 3 new RGBs so tell ur friends!

/Bean\
12-23-2008, 23:02
I thought it was a rar file, my bad

navarro951
12-23-2008, 23:37
I thought it was a rar file, my bad

ya no worries like i said haha just takes longer

navarro951
12-23-2008, 23:38
Potocello did you take the save to move or look? if your only looking dont post that ur taking it if your doing moves...well doem! been a lil bit to long

/Bean\
12-23-2008, 23:43
Where in the world does everyone live, I need a reply from him:yes:

navarro951
12-23-2008, 23:49
not sure why wuts up???

/Bean\
12-23-2008, 23:51
I just sent him an IC PM, I need him to reply ASAP

navarro951
12-23-2008, 23:51
PM it to me i may be able to help or step in

/Bean\
12-23-2008, 23:58
No can do I'm afraid, it wouldnt be IC then would it :oops::clown:

navarro951
12-24-2008, 00:00
good point i suppose, i mean like re ask the question or whatever it is, nvm its all good i see everyone on later more often so he should be around in a couple of hours im sure.

/Bean\
12-24-2008, 00:04
I'm going to bed soon, so he must either be in America or..dunno..Australia?

navarro951
12-24-2008, 00:13
not sure its 3 o clock here in the states so if he is hell get it today idk tho

/Bean\
12-24-2008, 00:16
Where abouts in the states?

everyone
12-24-2008, 00:42
oh hi, I just woke up, it's 7am here (and to answer your question, I'm from Singapore :yes:)
and I just replied, you should still be online, yes?

edit: darn! it seems just as I come online everyone other people are away/offline

navarro951
12-24-2008, 00:53
Where abouts in the states?

california

everyone
12-24-2008, 00:54
damn it, Baen is offline, guess it'll be another few more hours before he would reply to my PM.
I'll be going back to sleep now (actually I meant to wake up at around 10, but I woke at 7 so I decided to browse the forums :smash:)

edit: would we be using any minimods for BtSH? you mentioned something about getting rid of the traits

navarro951
12-24-2008, 01:06
o well i don need a mod fer that... just remove "trait" in the console

everyone
12-24-2008, 01:11
ah I see, and I just read through most of the posts that I missed while asleep, I'm going to move my battle report to the proper thread now.

I'm probably not going to take the save this turn, still waiting for the accensi to arrive and no point in moving the other units which just arrived because they're still "out of moves"

navarro951
12-24-2008, 01:16
ya you don always have to move so its no prob but next turn you will be ready to take Taras. Which should be alot easier now that weve got a spy their to possibly open the door haha. With Taras we will be making more money so we will create a new legion then and go north to take out the rebels on our border.

Also- you want me to move ur avatar to Arpi and retrain him?

/Bean\
12-24-2008, 01:20
I wasnt offline, i was watching heroes..good show..filmed in california...i've been to california...i havent been to singapore though...am i rambling?

Wait..if your in Singapore, and its 7am, doesnt that mean its christmas eve?...and as i just typed that i now realise that 20 past midnight means its also crimbo eve here...yipeee

desert
12-24-2008, 01:38
I would have chosen a more historical approach, ie. take Rhegion, wait a few years for Carthage to attack, then wait a few more decades to attack the Po Celts.

I can see how that could get boring, but still...

everyone
12-24-2008, 01:38
@ baen: yes, it's christmas eve here, and I just replied to your message

@ navarro951: hmm, since I plan to leave next season or in summer when the accensi arrives, yes, please move Asina to Arpi and retrain him, thank you

edit: it seems potocello is taking very long with the save, nearly half a day, what could he possibly be doing?

/Bean\
12-24-2008, 01:49
Navarro, once everyones settled into the game, would it be stupid to start making decisions on things that cannot exactly be done in EB, but which would have to be done IRL? For instance, I dunno, hosting events, or supply route problems, or diplomatic trips abroad?It might add prestige and influence to the characters, and more depth to the story.

navarro951
12-24-2008, 02:29
in the rules there is a part about events...checkem out i think thats what you mean. they are all made up and what not ya for fun and can go against the script indeed

navarro951
12-24-2008, 12:08
also everyone, you will need to decide if you want 4 Hastati, or 2 Hastati and 2 Principes as it states in the rules Standard legions can only have 8 units and your rank can only command 8 units. (4 inf cohorts, 2 ranged, and 2 Calvary, this is not counting the Generals units.) I suggest 2 Principes, 2 Hastati, 2 Accensi, 2 Eqvites Romani, and you and Baens bodyguards.

@Potocello not sure what you were doing but the save remains open and when the full 24 hours or all moves are done i will take it either way. I will move you to where you wanted to be anyway so no worries. Get involved with the Roleplay i find it to be the funnest part.

everyone
12-24-2008, 16:36
I suggest 2 Principes, 2 Hastati, 2 Accensi, 2 Eqvites Romani, and you and Baens bodyguards.

just 2 principes and 2 hastati for the infantry, that is what's already under my command; and I don't think there are any more hastati that are able to be spared from other provinces since our treasury is rather low.

Potocello
12-24-2008, 18:12
also everyone, you will need to decide if you want 4 Hastati, or 2 Hastati and 2 Principes as it states in the rules Standard legions can only have 8 units and your rank can only command 8 units. (4 inf cohorts, 2 ranged, and 2 Calvary, this is not counting the Generals units.) I suggest 2 Principes, 2 Hastati, 2 Accensi, 2 Eqvites Romani, and you and Baens bodyguards.

@Potocello not sure what you were doing but the save remains open and when the full 24 hours or all moves are done i will take it either way. I will move you to where you wanted to be anyway so no worries. Get involved with the Roleplay i find it to be the funnest part.

haha yah i dont know what i was planning on doing, i didnt move my avatar or anything. i've been a bit busy lately so im finding it hard to find time to roleplay. :embarassed:

Potocello
12-24-2008, 18:15
oh and how would i go about asking permission to be under command of a Legatus for my Tribunus training?

everyone
12-24-2008, 18:27
you post in the senate thread; I'm not sure whether there is an opening available in Legio I Apulia (currently the only legion in service) right now (because it's up to the emperor (navarro) to decide; if navarro allows, then I have no trouble with you joining as a Tribunus under the Legio I Apulia)

anyway since you're not doing anything with the save, could you kindly update the post in the Dictator and Consul reports to tell the rest to use the previous save please?
and role-playing can be done anywhere, in PMs or in the Senate, you need not necessarily have the save to role-play anything

/Bean\
12-24-2008, 18:34
Well Roka will soon take command of his legion, and he has not, as far as I know, got a tribune prepared. You can always PM him IC Potocello, like a letter. Or just ask publicly in the Senate thread

desert
12-24-2008, 19:55
I would want 3 Hastati, 3 Principes and 3 Triarii to make it more realistic, but as I am actually a nobody for now, I cannot command any troops.

navarro951
12-24-2008, 19:57
I would want 3 Hastati, 3 Principes and 3 Triarii to make it more realistic, but as I am actually a nobody for now, I cannot command any troops.

well thats more for imperial legions, the ranks also limit solider capacity.

desert
12-24-2008, 20:00
Well, no worries. It will be at least 15 game years before I get any troops.

navarro951
12-24-2008, 20:33
well if you serve two battles with a legatus, you will be a legatus and in turn may have a chance to lead a legion

desert
12-24-2008, 21:00
Yeah, but I'm doing it for RP purposes.

navarro951
12-24-2008, 21:14
aw well you make your own way then fine by me thats the fun of it

navarro951
12-24-2008, 21:33
wow well the Emperor made it through the year lol saves open guys, but other then ppl who get new RBGs and want to move somewhere i don think anybody has to make any moves.

desert
12-24-2008, 23:01
Ok, this is not good...

I forgot to mention that I use the Alex.exe :wall:

So, just go on without me for this turn. I just want to ask a favor: could anyone just take my character, a 31 year old named Servivs, and move him towards the Legio I fort?

I'll try to reinstall quickly.

navarro951
12-24-2008, 23:10
Well everyone has to IC accept you as his third in command. And once he does that he can sponsor no more tribuni. You can only have two subordinates.

desert
12-24-2008, 23:32
Hmm...my character's intention is not to fight FOR the Romans, as far as I know...

He doesn't want to fight at all, really.

I might have to rethink his objectives... but tell me - are you going to assign a provincial dictator of Taras after it is taken?

PS: And no, I'm not trying to get Servivs the provincial dictatorship.

/Bean\
12-24-2008, 23:53
Ah yeah, that reminds me Navarro. I think we may need to think of subtitutes for battle points. Because I dont think theres going to be enough wars and legions if taking command of battles is the only way of gaining anything. I think there needs to be more than one path. Is it too late to think of somehting and add it to the rules and explanations and what not? Seeing as we're still in the testing stage now is a good time to do it. Do you see my point?

navarro951
12-25-2008, 00:14
@ BaenWell in both LoTR and WoTB we only give commanders BP points and it works out as more people go into combat. See points are given to the person who ACTUALLY commanded the battle. So say your a Tribunus and your Legatus in RL cannot take the save to fight a battle, because you are present in that army you can fight it instead and since you personally in RL made the tactical decisions to win or lose, you will get or lose the points.

@Desert well the first P.Dictatorship is going to probably go to Roka ive decided and I thinking Ariminum or Taras ya.

Ibn-Khaldun
12-25-2008, 00:16
Sry to intrude but battle points are only in WotB. In LotR you need land to get higher rank.

~:)

/Bean\
12-25-2008, 00:25
Fairy snuff.

...

navarro951
12-25-2008, 00:29
Sry to intrude but battle points are only in WotB. In LotR you need land to get higher rank.

~:)


ooooo ya thats right they do land well WoTB is my basis for this game so ya haha

navarro951
12-25-2008, 00:31
http://www.mizus.com/pbmupload.php

Go here upload it, then find the file, right click it, and click copy link location, then paste it in you report

/Bean\
12-25-2008, 00:36
Well yeah, I know...I was just seeing if you knew. I see you do. Well done...:sweatdrop:

navarro951
12-25-2008, 00:59
lol nice

/Bean\
12-25-2008, 01:09
Hey, its Christmas Day..well, for me and Everyone it is anyway.. unlucky Navarro...anyways I'm off to bed before I run into Santa

everyone
12-25-2008, 01:40
Ah yeah, that reminds me Navarro. I think we may need to think of subtitutes for battle points. Because I dont think theres going to be enough wars and legions if taking command of battles is the only way of gaining anything. I think there needs to be more than one path. Is it too late to think of somehting and add it to the rules and explanations and what not? Seeing as we're still in the testing stage now is a good time to do it. Do you see my point?

I agree with the "other path", perhaps we could make a "governor's path" instead of a "General's path", and create some new ranks regarding city governorship, perhaps I shall propose this Charter Amendment at the next congressional session as a Dux (which hopefully I might get if I get another clear victory over the Epirotes)

navarro951
12-25-2008, 01:46
we already have government ranks making new ones like that would be an entirely new proposition to the game. Trust me it works out guys. Prov.Dictators can have their aids its all the same. Also this is Rome there will be PLENTY of action when we go against the Guals guaranteed. And when we get the money there will be a legion for nearly every other general.

The Celtic Viking
12-25-2008, 01:48
For roleplay purposes, I am not yet a Senator - if I ever even become one. So just pretend that was the voice of a god.

In the game you are your character and your character only. You can't be your character + Mars.

I will make my IC entrance tomorrow, I think. It is my opinion though that the typical army should have enough and the right units to allow for the tactic that... err... "Mars" told us to use. :shame: It seems much more correct to have it that way. I also have a slight problem with the whole "dictator" thing. Why not consul and co-consul? I do not know what those dudes did historically (Rome is really not my favourite area), but in Camillan times I think "dictator" would be worse no matter what the consuls actually did. -.-

(I am aware that they could become dictator, but this was if I have understood things correctly only for a limited time, and not something they wanted to be permanent. Perhaps adding a rank of dictator that can be held by X person Y time and giving Z benefits, or just have it as it is but with changed names. That's my opinion, at least.)

navarro951
12-25-2008, 01:50
well said TCV.


bah!
ooc: since I can't find a way to say this IC I'll just turn to OOC momentarily:
well since you (desert) made the post I assume you were role-playing your character, Servivs A.P.R (Amicvs Popvli Romani); and it's true we can't adopt the strategy "Mars" showed everyone in a divine vision, since we do not have many units of infantry.
anyway I just realised that as a former client ruler, you can't be adopted into the family because it seems the game would glitch and create a clone of your character (sometimes, as explained in the EB bug reports)

Yes you can be adopted, if you do well in combat you will receive a Man of The Hour and if the benefactor approves you are added to the family tree no problem no bugs. Thats how I got into the family tree in WoTB.

desert
12-25-2008, 01:57
Well see, I am not a senator and would rather not speak to the Senate DIRECTLY.
So if it pleases you, I will say that my character was communicating telepathically with the Senate. :dizzy2:

The Celtic Viking
12-25-2008, 02:04
You could perhaps let someone else speak for you instead? Perhaps by telling them through PMs/the agora? If not this, then I think you should rethink this as it doesn't seem to work well with how the game is laid up.

Wait, we don't have an equivalence for the Agora here? I know it isn't used much in WotB, but with Desert's RP it might actually make sense. I also think the reason why it isn't used in WotB is because no one started writing there, but now someone will. I hope I didn't just miss it, though. :no:

desert
12-25-2008, 02:13
Yeah, that's a good idea.

Alternatively, I can post here for something I want everyone to see, or PM for a one-on-one discussion.

So this might be the last time a god will ever speak to a Roman; truly, a day for that should be recorded for posterity.

navarro951
12-25-2008, 02:13
ya i will have to think up an equivalent for us. And you know i know its fun to create a persona roleplaying here desert but the idea of this game is that we are all senators/generals of Rome trying to vy for power so it makes sense to stick to the premises.

desert
12-25-2008, 02:21
Ehh, Servivs isn't that crazy about being powerful. He just isn't that kind of guy. Also, he is currently a poor, homeless pleb.

Maybe once he dies, my new character will be a power-hungry politician?

desert
12-25-2008, 03:46
Caivs Aemilivs Mamercvs - gloomy, unapproachable, yet with his own personal sense of honor...

Sounds like my kind of guy.

navarro951
12-25-2008, 07:16
Hey guys i will try and take the save around 12:30 or 1:00 my time, but as i feed homeless people on xmas i may not get back home till 2 or so. So everyone has a couple of extra hours if you want to move to a city or sumthing like that. Next year will finally get this conquest for Taras underway and well really see how we can can handle ourselves. Good luck everyone I hope you earn us our first major battle victory.

everyone
12-25-2008, 08:51
Next year will finally get this conquest for Taras underway and well really see how we can can handle ourselves. Good luck everyone I hope you earn us our first major battle victory.

well that depends, because since Servivs A.P.R (desert) is joining the Legio I Apulia as a tribunus (unconfirmed), we might need another turn to get everyone all the troops ready to strike immediately, and also there's the trouble with the other accensi unit, which has the same problem as Servivs A.P.R., unless I may move to besiege the city before they arrive.

/Bean\
12-25-2008, 18:04
I like his idea ^^:2thumbsup:...VOTE!

desert
12-25-2008, 18:40
I wasn't planning on joining the Legion, just shadowing it.

/Bean\
12-25-2008, 20:09
In-game wise, how do you mean?

desert
12-25-2008, 20:22
My character will be next to the legion on the map.

Presumably, he will arrive during the siege of Taras.

navarro951
12-25-2008, 20:49
okay guys got home earlier than i thot so gonna take the save now

/Bean\
12-25-2008, 22:07
Why Desert? I dont get the point?

navarro951
12-25-2008, 22:11
Why Desert? I dont get the point?

ya i second that....whats the point? I mean just follow the battle? just join it and get your promotions.

edit: o and save is open!

everyone
12-26-2008, 00:29
I like his idea ^^:2thumbsup:...VOTE!
lol, what is there to vote here?
anyway, we might want to cut down on expenditure, our coffers seem to be getting thinner and thinner every turn, perhaps it might be solved with a quick expulsion and sacking of Taras and its population (although Asina's not selfish enough to do that)

navarro951
12-26-2008, 00:35
lol, what is there to vote here?
anyway, we might want to cut down on expenditure, our coffers seem to be getting thinner and thinner every turn, perhaps it might be solved with a quick expulsion and sacking of Taras and its population (although Asina's not selfish enough to do that)

i recommend we just occupy it, make them loyal and then start generating money from its trade through the seas.

everyone
12-26-2008, 00:37
very well, but if the public order face is red or blue, I'll expel its population to maintain public order ok?

navarro951
12-26-2008, 00:40
well actually its entirely up to you. As they say to the victor goes the spoils. You can IC PM me saying "Emperor what do you recommend I do Blah blah" when you take a city. But thats if you so wish. In all its up to the general who took the city.

/Bean\
12-26-2008, 01:05
Roleplay wise we could expel the populace opposed to Roman Rule or just occupy the city and its lands, but i think enslaving or buthering would be wrong. The Romans view this as their city to take, not as a mighty conquest of enemy lands to weaken their resolve or plunder their riches. We would want this city in working order, it just may take a year or so for the population to accept our rule. We may want to make it an ally of Rome before absorbing it first...ie:Type IV Gov.

desert
12-26-2008, 01:15
I'll tell you this much: Lvcivs Cornelivs Scipio is going to receive a visitor soon after assuming his position as provincial dictator.

desert
12-26-2008, 01:39
How did you guys take Taras so quickly?

One turn, you were still in the fort; the next, Taras had somehow fallen?

/Bean\
12-26-2008, 01:47
Its in marching distance of one turn, and there was a unit outside the city, so Everyone just attacked that at the garrison was destroyed coming to the rescue.

everyone
12-26-2008, 01:55
yes, I'll get to boast about it more in the battle report. :smash:
ok never mind, I'll go back to finishing my report, it's nearly 3 quarters done.

desert
12-26-2008, 02:04
Yeah, I'm an idiot.

I should have realized that it was either that or the spy in Taras.:shame:

everyone
12-26-2008, 02:21
anyway, I'm done with the battle report;
Baen, most of what Cotta did in the battle was covered in the report, so I need not PM you more details

/Bean\
12-26-2008, 02:25
Coolio,. thanks for that

navarro951
12-26-2008, 02:50
wow well done everyone, Im going to launch an event of our own soon. It will be alot of fun!

everyone
12-26-2008, 03:55
Hi, I'm not exactly sure about the infantry composition of Legio I Apulia, are there supposed to be 3 hastati, 1 principes or 2 hastati, 2 principes? because when I got command of it, the composition was the latter, but currently it's 3 hastati and 1 principes

and I'm also not sure what this is for, because Arpi is well-garrisoned

1 Principes was trained for the Arpi Garrison.

navarro can you please reply, thanks.

oh and I can't wait for the event

navarro951
12-26-2008, 04:10
well i trained another Hastati for you because i want to start making a new legion after we take rhegion. This way i already will have one of the more vet troops ready. also that meant to say sent to Arpi for momentary garrison

desert
12-26-2008, 04:53
Should we really call Asina Asina? Because that means "Ass/Donkey" in Latin. :sweatdrop:

everyone
12-26-2008, 05:04
yes, because Cnaevs is already the name of the heir (Cnaevs Cornlivs Blasio) and "Cornelivs Scipio" is also the Gens and Branch of Lvcivs Cornelivs Scipio (aka Roka).

anyway, 'Asina' sounds more unique :smash:

navarro951
12-26-2008, 05:27
did i say Taras would help us haha were gonna be fine with money for a while nice work again everyone.

everyone
12-26-2008, 05:29
Thanks, I just forgot that capturing Taras also opened new trade routes; p'raps we would have more income once Rhegion is retaken.

navarro951
12-26-2008, 05:34
Thanks, I just forgot that capturing Taras also opened new trade routes; p'raps we would have more income once Rhegion is retaken.

o absolutely.

everyone
12-26-2008, 05:43
oh and when the Legio I Apulia's troops have finished retraining, can you just leave them in their respective cities? I'm going to move them towards Rhegion instead of making them rally at some place and making progress slower. I'm posting it here in case you missed my SOT.

navarro951
12-26-2008, 05:46
o don worry i check the SOT everytime before i take the save. Well the sentorial library is updated you got your promotion and the first famous battle is up.

everyone
12-26-2008, 05:53
thanks,
anyway if I estimate correctly, and that everything goes fast, we should take Rhegion by Winter of 270, or Autumn if the spy manages to bust the gates, or summer if I miscalculate the unit's movements and that they can actually move more than I thought; anyway, we'll take the city some way or another.
and browsing through the save file, I notice we have another spy stationed on Sicilia

navarro951
12-26-2008, 05:57
thanks,
anyway if I estimate correctly, and that everything goes fast, we should take Rhegion by Winter of 270, or Autumn if the spy manages to bust the gates, or summer if I miscalculate the unit's movements and that they can actually move more than I thought; anyway, we'll take the city some way or another.
and browsing through the save file, I notice we have another spy stationed on Sicilia

ya ill usem when we take Segesta and Bonnonia

navarro951
12-26-2008, 06:27
lol i think im just gonna take the save...until we get multiple legions and expand this will be a quick game and i don think anybody needs to move so im taking it again lol.

edit: also i need all of you to try and get more members guys talk to anyone and everyone post around thanks!

everyone
12-26-2008, 06:34
well there are some people who said they were going to do something today (or so) such as TCV who said that he'll make his IC introduction and you said something about making Roka a provincial dictator, but that would probably be in the next congressional session,
however,since probably desert's (servius APR) going to tag along with Legio I Apulia nearby so I don't think he'll move these few seasons since there's not much movement of troops around
Baen's with the legion so he'll not be moving
but potocello is unheard from, perhaps he's doing some christmas things; probably won't mind if we just skip a few uneventful turns.

edit: I think as said somewhere before, we'll be getting another subforum soon so we can advertise more easily. and also, everyone else is probably at work or sleeping

navarro951
12-26-2008, 06:37
ya so ill take the save get the legion retrained and ya within two turns will be besieging Rhegion.

edit: Roka will get a diff rank at the CC ya because im proposing to add a new rank that will be more like a temporary governor you'll see. And then ill also post the event.

everyone
12-26-2008, 06:41
and I don't think it was appropriate to hijack to WotB thread thing with an advertisement though., just my opinion

(how many times is the turn going to be ended today? I think we should just fast forward to the turn when we finish retraining (spring 270), which is just a turn more; or perhaps this turn (winter 271, because some people might want to role play some stuff)

edit: oh actually I also have a charter amendment planned for the next Congressional Session; I'll just PM you my suggestion first

edit2: reading through the senatorial library, I think Lvcivs Cornelivs Scipio (Roka)'s activity should be 1, because he voted in the 1st congressional session

navarro951
12-26-2008, 10:11
taking the save! (for the 4th time today)
preparing to assault Rhegion (if our spies managed to bust the gates) (2nd battle today!)

done: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4251

moved Legio I Apulia to besiege Rhegion; the gates are still completely undamaged. darn, I shall attack tomorrow then.
Navarro, perhaps we should stop fastforwarding the game now, to allow people to catch up; taking the city can wait, and the other players are probably going to role-play a fair bit when they get online.

absolutely.

edit: o sry Roka thats right ill do that now thanks everyone!

/Bean\
12-26-2008, 13:12
Bloody hell! I only went to sleep for seven hours and a tidal wave of activity has struck! Let me catch up-lots of roleplaying to do. I was halfway through my story last night when my computer just suddenly shut Firefox down, and i didnt write it in Word so it didnt save. So I'm gonna have to start again now, wont make that mistake again.

Oh and guys, it is Christmas. You cant expect that many people-i.e.Potocello and Roka-will be on here that much over Christmas. It should pick up again once the world calms down. Be patient.

everyone
12-26-2008, 13:33
yeah, but navarro decided to fast-forward through a few turns because there were not many things to be done 'xcept retraining and waiting for the legio I apulia; and probably moving a few units to garrison, other than that, there's nothing much the other people can do for now, until Navarro decides to raise a new legion during the next Congressional session (which hopefully would have more than 4 people voting)

/Bean\
12-26-2008, 15:39
You should announce when that session will be now Navarro; means if people who arent posting check it quickly they will know in advance when it is.

everyone
12-26-2008, 15:41
it's supposed to be in 269 BC IIRC, which is 3 turns from now, check the senatorial library, navarro probably put something about it there.

oh and don't worry about the activity/role-playing, actually nothing much happened to your character except:
-sitting around in Arpi gave you a "playwright" ancillary
-you got the "Spartan" trait (+2 management) (that also means you can role-play your character being more calm/restrained and not storm into my tent! :smash:)
-in two seasons, you moved together with the rest of Legio I Apulia to the walls of Rhegion

navarro951
12-27-2008, 06:16
You should announce when that session will be now Navarro; means if people who arent posting check it quickly they will know in advance when it is.

269 is not just a selected date. Is the end of a consul term which is 3 years. See each three years new consuls are elected, currently only everyone and I can run for consul so at the end of 269 (assuming no one else is a Dux or higher) It will probably be me as one consul and him as the other.

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 10:51
Meh, that wouldn't hurt anyone

navarro951
12-27-2008, 10:53
taking the save!
(OOC: damn! does "Dux Asina's forces are besieging Rhegion. Tribunus Regvlvs has arrived just outside Legio I Apulia's conflict." mean I can't attack the city yet?)

thats up to you...if you want him in it you can wait if not get it over with.

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 10:55
Dam I was just about to say that. *Shakes fist at Navarro*

everyone
12-27-2008, 10:57
gah. I'll just take the save tomorrow then. :furious3: damned "tired" trait.

edit:
@ Baen: your personal account of the Battle for Tarentum is rather interesting

navarro951
12-27-2008, 10:58
i think hed recommend you take the damn city so we can get things over with. I would too.

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 10:58
Am I still seventeen, or am I eighteen now? I'm on a different computer to the one I have EB installed so I can't check.

everyone
12-27-2008, 11:01
your character's 18, you can check the Senatorial library
wow we've already made our OOC thread to the 6th page

navarro951
12-27-2008, 11:25
pretty sweet haha

everyone
12-27-2008, 12:25
takin it again...
I still think we should have waited for desert/roka/potocello to take the save; they've been sitting around for a few turns already. (well that's natural for potocello since he has no duties ingame as of now)
anyway you're going to create a new provincial dictator the next session right? just asking.

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 12:39
Can you create a Provincial Dictator before the COngressional session?

navarro951
12-27-2008, 12:40
I still think we should have waited for desert/roka/potocello to take the save; they've been sitting around for a few turns already. (well that's natural for potocello since he has no duties ingame as of now)
anyway you're going to create a new provincial dictator the next session right? just asking.

roka is having comp trouble so he wont move, potocello will have to wait for the next legion anyway, and desert is creating his story so that can be done whenever. If he still plans to follow Legio I he aint missin much he can do that this turn and make it there in 1 move.

and im not making a prov dictator, im making a new rank thats like an "acting prov dictator" which will go to Roka till he fixes his game.

The Celtic Viking
12-27-2008, 12:45
I still think we should have waited for desert/roka/potocello to take the save; they've been sitting around for a few turns already. (well that's natural for potocello since he has no duties ingame as of now)

Yeah, I agree with this. Having the save progress two seasons in two hours is a little bit fast. I didn't get time to answer that yes, it was okay for Dux Asina to take the city without me. (Thanks for asking! :nice:)

navarro951
12-27-2008, 12:47
Yeah, I agree with this. Having the save progress two seasons in two hours is a little bit fast. I didn't get time to answer that yes, it was okay for Dux Asina to take the city without me. (Thanks for asking! :nice:)

See u told ya, and i understand it was quick but TCV you said in your SOT move me to Legio I, and i figured i would do you the favor being busy now as Basileus in WoTB and everyone else i explained you know? After 269 is up and people have more positions of power and their will be another Legion, we will be able to slow down as more people will be moving you know.

navarro951
12-27-2008, 12:48
Can you create a Provincial Dictator before the COngressional session?

Not really, you have to be a Dux with enough points to be a Quaestor to get that title.

Edit: Cept for everyone...he can with a couple more victories!

everyone
12-27-2008, 13:01
Not really, you have to be a Dux with enough points to be a Quaestor to get that title.

Edit: Cept for everyone...he can with a couple more victories!

eh? aren't Quaestors and Prov. Dictators different things?

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 13:45
Well yeah, but you have to be a Queastor to be a Prov. Dictator...i think

The Celtic Viking
12-27-2008, 14:09
See u told ya, and i understand it was quick but TCV you said in your SOT move me to Legio I, and i figured i would do you the favor being busy now as Basileus in WoTB and everyone else i explained you know? After 269 is up and people have more positions of power and their will be another Legion, we will be able to slow down as more people will be moving you know.

I wasn't objecting to you moving me, that's all well and good. What I was objecting to was the pace of which this game is advancing. I could have moved myself now, everyone could have attacked, and even though desert is only making his story, he should still be given the time to move around as he please. To go on fast now I can understand, but just giving 2 hours is too fast.

navarro951
12-27-2008, 14:16
ya from now on 24 hours guys you have my word unless were all agreed its cool to take it...my apologies.

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 14:57
No harm done Navarro. Make all the mistakes now so that we learn quickly what works and what doesn't.

The Celtic Viking
12-27-2008, 15:48
No harm done Navarro. Make all the mistakes now so that we learn quickly what works and what doesn't.

Well, there was a small damage done in that everyone had to attack one turn later. Yes. Hrrm. I said small, didn't I? :laugh4:

everyone
12-27-2008, 15:52
well not actually, I think there would be no difference if I attacked this turn or in the previous turn, in both turns the gate wasn't busted. but Cotta (Baen) became practical (+1 management) while waiting outside Rhegion!

navarro951
12-27-2008, 15:59
Cotta (Baen) became practical (+1 management) while waiting outside Rhegion!

thats good news! and hey another good job. tough battle i bet huh? losses could of been alot worse.

everyone
12-27-2008, 16:03
actually, the number doesn't seem a lot once the battle is over; it just seems like what happened after Taras if you take a look at my SOT.
and thanks to the chirurgeon ancillary, the number of casualties were lowered.

edit: and the congressional session starts next turn right?

navarro951
12-27-2008, 16:06
ya i love that one haha, o and the reason you declare is because in a sense you "own" his oath of loyalty and serving you so you have to allow that to be relinquished.

@baen: good luck ill put your legion together as soon as it can be done

everyone
12-27-2008, 16:10
ah, I see.

well I can foresee that you're probably going to announce the event during the Congressional session; and some campaigns are going to be sent to wherever you decide the event to be....and so on. I'm guessing rule 4.4's going to be included :smash:

and maybe that's also what the extra legion is for >)

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 16:11
Yeah, actually, about that Navarro. I'm not ungrateful or anything, actually, i'm flattered, but I would prefer to be given a small command of my own before being granted an entire legion. Kind of like an advance force for softening up the enemy or pursuing forces outside the enemy main army. I think it would be inaccurate to give me an entire legion when i have not actually had any independent command of my own as of yet. What do you think?

navarro951
12-27-2008, 16:16
@everyone: you on the money haha.

@baen: you'll be fine discuss tactics with everyone IC through PMs he's realeasing you he must know what hes doing so...read everyone's post...go read rule 4.4. can you say "joint" operation. you wont be alone out there

navarro951
12-27-2008, 16:26
Asina nods
"Yes, sir, I shall deliver the news to Legatus Asina; him, Tribunus Regvlvs and I would return to this Senate Chamber when Spring arrives for the Congressional Session."
Asina then takes a step back to await any further orders before leaving the chambers.

forgetting your own rank or forgetting who you are hehe :juggle2:

everyone
12-27-2008, 16:27
:furious3:
actually I meant to type Legatus Cotta. dammit! I forgot who I am! I unintentionally foreshadowed this in one of my Stories in the Stories thread

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 16:29
Oh I get that, but dont you think giving command of an entire legion to an untested eighteen year old is a bit...iffy?

navarro951
12-27-2008, 16:35
well Baen, if Roka wasnt haven comp problems I wouldnt have to. But your the only other legatus weve got out there now and we need you to support the push north. and in teh 260's will have the punic wars to worry about. we need ya. besides your legion will be light i wont throw you into anything tough, strictly field battles with even odds as best as i can arrange that.

Your legion i imagine like this:
Yourself, a Tribunus (if one vows to serve with you)
2 Hastati/ or Triarii
2 Rorarii
2 Leves
2 Eqvites Romani

or ill give you a legion made up of Italic Allies which ill have to decide later.

everyone
12-27-2008, 16:36
but dont you think giving command of an entire legion to an untested eighteen year old is a bit...iffy?

an eighteen-year-old with......good leadership, good connections and a recommendation from a rather high-ranked general?

navarro951
12-27-2008, 16:38
an eighteen-year-old with......good leadership, good connections and a recommendation from a rather high-ranked general?

exactly and 2 years legionary service in famed battles!

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 16:43
We're pushing north? Awesome! But yeah, fine. I'll have to add some more heroics and command proof to my frontline stories then. Add some independent commands there. That ought to do.

everyone
12-27-2008, 16:55
speaking of which, you're still not done with your story of the battle of taras. I'm still waiting for the rest, you said the one that's currently there is just the intro! heh :smash:

edit: woot! we got our own forum!!!1111one!11

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 18:20
Yeah I'm doing bits to it all the time, Everyone. I'll try and do a frontline story for most battles. And, woo we got our forum! Is TC going to move all these threads?

desert
12-27-2008, 18:41
Well, it actually doesn't matter too much to me.

Except, when Lvcivs/Roka is moved to Taras, can you leave the save open for that turn?
Because that's when I need to move.

And hopefully that happens today, because I'm going to be gone from Sunday to mid-Tuesday.

Ibn-Khaldun
12-27-2008, 20:18
Congratulations on getting your own forum!! :balloon2: :2thumbsup:

navarro951
12-27-2008, 22:25
Congratulations on getting your own forum!! :balloon2: :2thumbsup:

thanks alot Ibn, and great job guys. Yes i believe TinCow will move them for us lets just keep moving forward not rush him haha.

navarro951
12-27-2008, 22:26
Well, it actually doesn't matter too much to me.

Except, when Lvcivs/Roka is moved to Taras, can you leave the save open for that turn?
Because that's when I need to move.

And hopefully that happens today, because I'm going to be gone from Sunday to mid-Tuesday.

just go ahead and move...any players im making moves for i do last so you can move then ill move him and do other things then end the turn.

desert
12-27-2008, 22:44
Ok. Although, I wish Roka wasn't having computer problems. I intended to have an IC chat with him in the Stories Thread.

navarro951
12-27-2008, 22:44
^^^that is unless of course you want me to move you too. if all is fine all go ahead and ask, cool if i take the save guys? cept um Baen you should head to Roma so i can start putting your legion together.

desert
12-27-2008, 22:46
yeah, that would be faster. Go ahead and move him.

navarro951
12-27-2008, 22:50
okay and i need baens okay too or do you want to move yourself?

/Bean\
12-27-2008, 23:59
Oh sorry Navarro, yeah. You might as well do everything on one save. Lets go on a trip to Roma! Yay!

everyone
12-28-2008, 03:28
I don't think Cotta has any more moves for the turn, he's only able to move a tile or so; I remember regvlvs depleted his moves already

everyone
12-28-2008, 08:13
hmmm, the council session starts this turn right? it's already spring 269.

navarro951
12-28-2008, 09:54
hmmm, the council session starts this turn right? it's already spring 269.

no in the winter, i will wait for all moves to be done and then close the save. we will have our session, vote, ill update the library and what not, then we continue. Its a good 3-5 day process.

everyone
12-28-2008, 10:36
ok, I'd like to move Asina out of Rhegion to Roma but I'm afraid that the public order would drop to red; so I've left some requests in my SOT post.

navarro951
12-28-2008, 11:04
ok, I'd like to move Asina out of Rhegion to Roma but I'm afraid that the public order would drop to red; so I've left some requests in my SOT post.

ya okay im gonna figure out a garrison and sure ill have you out by next turn. all this extra money will allow me to do that easily and also get our next legion going

/Bean\
12-28-2008, 15:41
It will take years to create a new legion if you only use one city though won't it?

desert
12-28-2008, 19:07
Ok, this is it. I won't be able to participate until late next Tuesday.

Would you mind leaving the voting open until then?

navarro951
12-28-2008, 22:49
It will take years to create a new legion if you only use one city though won't
it?

im not drawing from one city...thats just a rallying point.


Ok, this is it. I won't be able to participate until late next Tuesday.

Would you mind leaving the voting open until then?

voting may be on tuesday so i wont have to. remember there is the turns to finish, 2 day council, 2 day voting, library updates, and closing.

edit: speaking of which is there anymore moves to be made this turn?

/Bean\
12-29-2008, 00:05
No one can move I dont think. Lets see:

I'm going to Rome and have been moved.
Everyone is staying in Rhegion this turn.
Desert has been moved...hasnt he?
Roka is still away
TCV is in Rhegion?
No one else is active...

navarro951
12-29-2008, 00:45
im not exactly sure where desert wants to be...no SOT for it

edit: still sum hours left on the save so ill wait for a response.

navarro951
12-29-2008, 04:51
Okay yall our History (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=110845) page is up!

/Bean\
12-29-2008, 06:14
Liking the history page, Navarro.


Sure, where we headed? :charge:

As soon as it's assembled, we will meet in Rome to attend the second Congressional Senate meeting. From there we will decide where our armies will be sent. Make sure you attend

Mjolnir
12-29-2008, 06:18
As soon as it's assembled, we will meet in Rome to attend the second Congressional Senate meeting. From there we will decide where our armies will be sent. Make sure you attend

Sounds good.

navarro951
12-29-2008, 12:56
oooooo my god. Sorry guys one wild night im gonna go to sleep and will take the save first thing in the morning...well it is the morning but a lil later so any moves that havent been made by those who can move, do them now, post it in the SOT for me, or sucks for you.

edit: i took the time to update the library and what not though, your in there now Mjolnir. Ill do all the new pics during council so you guys can have all that their for ya then. ill probably be playing as Blasio tho hehe goodnight for me now

everyone
12-29-2008, 14:21
navarro, by the time you've woken up, you're probably going to take the save and do the moves, so this part is going to be rather long, because I've some stuff to ask about/correct the rules/FAQ thread (because it isn't very clear to some extent)

so to save time, you can go complete the save first before replying, I can wait for your reply on this. :yes:

(I'm just pointing this out so that people who join in the future won't get confused/mistaken so don't misunderstand that I'm trying to scrutinise everything)

Rule 2.1:


All Players enter the game at the rank of Legatus.
umm I think this was typed before you thought of all the ranks, so it's supposed to be Tribunus right?


Rule 2.4:
well this is a rather confusing part, so I'll just point out the most important part first:

Provincial Dictator
Requirements: Must be appointed to this rank by the Dictator
and
Quaestor
(4) Can be granted a Provincial Dictatorship.

well I'm not sure what you intended (I think you intended that only quaestors can be granted Prov. Dictatorships), but it sounds like anyone can be granted a prov. dictatorship but "quaestor" is a special rank for a prov. dictator.
anyway the powers are also conflicting, (other than the 2 bodyguard units thing, which I PMed you about it)

Quaestor:
(1) Can propose one Edict/Charter Amendment per 'Congressional' Session.
(2) Can lead an army of max 14 units unless it is an Imperial Legion.
(4) Can be granted a Provincial Dictatorship.
Prov. Dictator:
(2) Can propose an unlimited number of Edicts or Amendments per 'Congressional' Session.
(7) Provincial Dictator can lead an army of max 14 units unless it is an Imperial Legion.

and also I would like to ask, if only quaestors are allowed to have Provincial dictatorships, what happens when they are promoted to praetor?


Rule 3.5:

Rule 3.5:
No Senator Influence may ever be lower than 1.
I think this also needs correcting because our Tribuni's influence in the Library thread are all labeled as 1/2


For the purposes of determining Stat Influence, a Senator can gain 1 point of Stat Influence for each of the following conditions that he meets: (a) 5+ ranks of Command (b) 10 ranks of Command (c) 20+ total stat points (d) 30+ total stat points
well this isn't a correction but I have a question, this stat influence thing is only applicable for those ranks which influence states that they have stat influence (like quaestor, praetors, etc) right?


thanks for reading this. hope you'll clarify some of the stuff I mentioned.

edit: I just found out all the BtSH topics were moved into our forum! thanks TC :bow:

TinCow
12-29-2008, 14:43
Welcome to the new BtSH subforum. Please note that this subforum is provided for organizational purposes only. It is still a part of the Throne Room and all Throne Room rules still apply. navarro951 is Forum Leader for the BtSH subforum and has the ability to sticky and lock threads. He is also responsible for running the BtSH game. If you have a problem with the game itself, please contact navarro951 first. I will not be monitoring the daily progress of the game, so it would be best if you could try and resolve any issues with him first, and only bump it up to me if you are not satisfied with the result.

However, this only extends to gameplay itself. If there are general problems between players in this forum, please contact me directly. I am, of course, always available to help out with the game in whatever way possible. Let me know what I can do to help, and I will get it done. Just remember that I probably won't be aware of what the actual in-game situation is, so you might have to give me a bit more background detail.

Good luck, and I hope the game goes well. :2thumbsup:

navarro951
12-29-2008, 19:41
Rule 2,1, yes it is was my mistake.

Rule 2.4 and the Quaestor is simply saying, you have to be a Qauestor to get a PD, and it will be granted to you by the Dictator. Or in other words, Quaestor and above can be granted them. Such as saying Legatus cannot run for consul. But Dux can meaning if you are Dux or higher you can.

If you become a Praetor and are also a Prov.Dictator, then you now are just a more powerful dictator. See the individual rules for ranks are for if you do not get a Prov.Dictatorship. You must have a prov.dictatorship to be a Quaestor true, but that is simply to be granted the rank. It can be taken away and you can still be a Quaestor as ranks are not stripped. But you will lose some political power which is sort of the point of these ranks. As a Praetor, you may not even keep your PD. You may end up back in the field anything can happen, but you still may own one. Ill be changing this anyway though!.

Rule 3.5

The 1/2 thing is more of a joke, if you read in the Tribunus rank i put inf: 1 if any.

navarro951
12-29-2008, 20:32
I went ahead and changed that Tribunus thing as it was more a mistake not a change in rules.

Il_Duce
12-30-2008, 00:20
This looks like a very promising game. I'm glad I could get in on one during it's beginning.

Ave Legions!

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 00:26
Legion...theres still technically only one...but we're working on it :2thumbsup:

Il_Duce
12-30-2008, 00:37
Heh, I understand.

Also, I'm guessing we're using Republican Legions/tactics right now?

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 01:05
Theres a part in the Senate thread about battle tactics...technicaly we're all still meant to be in there discussing it, seeing as that session never closed :laugh4:

navarro951
12-30-2008, 05:03
Heh, I understand.

Also, I'm guessing we're using Republican Legions/tactics right now?

historically, yes...in game id prefer for the sake of not getting owned you do what works for you as commander if Republican tactics work for you then by all means kill sum barbarians!




taking the save!

...done, noticed that you didn't move Regvlvs, I just moved him north until he's next to Asina, both should arrive in Rome next season
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4257

how is the public in Rhegion then? i still have one more Akontistai to make

everyone
12-30-2008, 05:25
it's still green, don't worry, but the other akontistai might be needed in case the population expands too quickly or the carthaginians decide that we're going to invade sicilia


Also, I'm guessing we're using Republican Legions/tactics right now?
we'll we're supposed to be, but if you see my report on the battle near Taras, I didn't because of the lack of infantry

Potocello
12-30-2008, 05:49
hey guys! as you may or nay not have noticed, i have been absent from these threads for quite some time. this is due to some bad internet connections to my comp and to my PS3 which has left me ready to hurl them out of my window. anyway just checking back in to let you know im still with it. i may be absent for a few more days to try and fix these issues.

Oh and my laptop display broke too. its just been a bad week.
looking forward to some good ol' RTW to chear me up :)

everyone
12-30-2008, 05:52
welcome back!
ok, we have good news, we're forming another legion (as you have read), and that means all the current players who are tribuni can join the legions and have a chance to be promoted to legatus!

Potocello
12-30-2008, 06:36
wooo great news. just posted a request for service in the Senate thread hope it gets accepted :)

Il_Duce
12-30-2008, 07:16
So we aren't using any mini-mods or anything are we? Just straight up 1.1? Will the official fixes minimod affect anything? I haven't downloaded it yet but I'm just wondering.

navarro951
12-30-2008, 10:46
So we aren't using any mini-mods or anything are we? Just straight up 1.1? Will the official fixes minimod affect anything? I haven't downloaded it yet but I'm just wondering.

no it shouldn't, the Romani script is so in depth im purely going with that and my own console changes when necessary.

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 11:18
Plus we dont really need to...anything like Force Diplomacy will be handled by Navarro as he controls all the agents

everyone
12-30-2008, 11:20
how about in the future, when we get someone else to become consul of finance, then the person would need to end the turn/move diplomats and such; maybe by then, navarro would send a copy of his BtSH mod to those people

SwissBarbar
12-30-2008, 11:22
What about the 1.1 mod for the Bruttian Soldiers, i forgot how it's named. ?

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 11:32
Konny's one? We discussed that, but it affected the game script and stuff, so it complicates things. Anyway, Everyone FD is easy to implicate later so any consul of finance can download it when they need it.

everyone
12-30-2008, 11:39
I was also referring to navarro's "roman script", or something like that, which probably spawns generals.

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 12:19
Hey Everyone, how did Cato get hit by an arrow? I'm gonna have some fun implementing that. :laugh4:

everyone
12-30-2008, 13:47
well, as you can see from the battle report, PRefect Cato was treated for an arrow wound; and what I didn't mention in my battle report was that a unit of hastati (which I RP'ed as under Cato's control) was reduced to 2 men (one officer + one of the soldier), then when I moved the main infantry force towards town square, the small unit of toxotai there shot at the infantry and the arrows took out the hastati unit. after the battle, the unit replenished (healed) to around 40 men; so I took it as those 40 men fell from missile fire.

edit: wow you're writing a lot of stories, gah you still have one more unfinished story! :clown:

edit 2: nice story/extension to the battle of Taras, though I RP'ed the part where you reformed the line after crushing the phalanx as you taking the initiative to reform it, because by then the Tarantine cavalry was dangerously close, so I had to rush my left wing to attack them

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 14:06
Yeah the storylines are all pretty loose so dont expect them to be exactly how the battle played out or anything, but I need to add those sorts of things as i need to develop Cotta's character if he is to become Legatus soon

everyone
12-30-2008, 14:15
ah, I see. well I'm eagerly waiting your next story, they're all rather interesting.

/Bean\
12-30-2008, 14:41
Why thank you very much. I can't get them out as often as I'd like though, I'm writing a book as it is and sometimes that takes priority. The good thing is I can just use what I write for this in that book, slightly modified of course.

Il_Duce
12-30-2008, 16:55
Konny's one? We discussed that, but it affected the game script and stuff, so it complicates things. Anyway, Everyone FD is easy to implicate later so any consul of finance can download it when they need it.

Yeah, I'm sure FD and other small add-ons are savegame compatible so as long as we're careful, no worries.

navarro951
12-30-2008, 20:58
Yeah, I'm sure FD and other small add-ons are savegame compatible so as long as we're careful, no worries.

actually all this stuff is a simple edu and edb file change. and RGBs will always be handled by the game master i will spawn those so since recruiting hasnt been changed the Consul's are still okay. Same for construction as well.

Mjolnir
12-30-2008, 21:14
Navarro, sweet updates in the Senatorial Library. :2thumbsup:

navarro951
12-30-2008, 21:42
Navarro, sweet updates in the Senatorial Library. :2thumbsup:

ty ill wen the Congressional Council starts all the NEW photos and what not will be up.

Il_Duce
12-30-2008, 22:26
ty ill wen the Congressional Council starts all the NEW photos and what not will be up.

Great work man. I think I speak for everybody when I say we appreciate all your hard work.

navarro951
12-30-2008, 22:55
Thanks alot, its been a bit lighter on me tho being xmas vacation and jeez the help i got from Ibn and TinCow was worthy of standing ovation lol. I never had talked to a mod and been so quickly responded to in my life hehe. But thanks alot guys i hope you enjoy this no matter the outcome. (Those Scaaaary Carthaginians lol) And i hope you can pull in some more friends as well we always could use more members. Also, had another problem with gettin my RGBs but i fixed it so during winter all the new people who need one will get one and can be just in time for their first council.

edit: forgot to mention all you guys' great suggestions they help alot to bettering the game

Il_Duce
12-30-2008, 23:11
The Carthaginians? HAH... barbarians I say.

I think once you start getting used to the reports and what not, you'll be polished and will be able to do it pretty fast.

And I think for now we're actually at a pretty good size, considering we have hardly expanded. But once we go transalpine or cross into Greece or something we can start recruiting more people.

I haven't even had much to do but I'm having a great time.

navarro951
12-30-2008, 23:40
The Carthaginians? HAH... barbarians I say.

I think once you start getting used to the reports and what not, you'll be polished and will be able to do it pretty fast.

And I think for now we're actually at a pretty good size, considering we have hardly expanded. But once we go transalpine or cross into Greece or something we can start recruiting more people.

I haven't even had much to do but I'm having a great time.

well thats good to know...i feel im going to lose people becuz we will only have two legions by next year (ingame). And it may be boring at times to just watch. But as we expand and the money comes in, i hope to get a legion for every dux, legatus, and tribune to serve in or under.

Mjolnir
12-30-2008, 23:44
Yeah, right now I think we have a good number of players. This will get really fun when we have three or four wars going at once. :beam:

When is the next Senate session, it's coming up soon isn't it?

navarro951
12-30-2008, 23:55
Yeah, right now I think we have a good number of players. This will get really fun when we have three or four wars going at once. :beam:

When is the next Senate session, it's coming up soon isn't it?

session is once i end this turn which reminds me...everybody okay where they are at or if they want to be moved lemme know id prefer to just end it now get are new avatars get swiss barber in so we can have one more player for the council lemme know what you all think ill give it 2-3 hours or drop the idea nd wait the full 24

Il_Duce
12-31-2008, 01:59
I'm fine with ending it now

navarro951
12-31-2008, 02:34
okay well ill wait for a couple more this is it tho ok:

Roka was moved
everyone is staying in Roma
Baen is in his fort just outside Roma's walls
TCV is in Roma
Potocello is in Roma
Desert is in Arpi
Mjolnir is in Roma and Il_Duce is as well...ill give it 1 more hour then im endin no moves to really make ya?

Il_Duce
12-31-2008, 03:10
Yea, unless somebody objects I think nobody really needs to move anywhere. It's not like we're mounting an invasion or anything.

navarro951
12-31-2008, 03:13
ya ok i will soon gimme a few.

desert
12-31-2008, 06:11
Ok guys, I'm back. A few things:

1. Holy crap Baen, I did not expect that massive wall of text in the Stories Thread! It'll take me hours to catch up if you always write that much!

2. Sorry for not editing my SOT Navarro, but for my roleplay purposes everything is still going OK right now. So, you moved Lucius/Roka to Taras(you said it somewhere)? Then my only other question is whether or not Roka can post in the forums right now.

3. Imminent Council session, right? I won't speak IC for roleplay reasons, but I would just like to now for future reference: do you have to actually travel to Roma for the council?

navarro951
12-31-2008, 06:18
no you dont have to travel to Roma, you can just put

Legatus Joe Smith rode in weary from the long ride from Taras.

whatever

Potocello
12-31-2008, 06:42
...signiture test...
wooo it works.

@navarro - haha Joe Smith.. how Roman

/Bean\
12-31-2008, 08:31
You know, Potocello, those stories are not critical to the game, they are a side line that helps to enjoy it and fill in the gaps that the gameplay does not allow for. Only read them if you want to, your not missing out on anything gamewise.

And you can see any new signatures on any of your posts, you dont need to post again to see them btw.

Ibn-Khaldun
12-31-2008, 10:38
You know, Potocello, those stories are not critical to the game, they are a side line that helps to enjoy it and fill in the gaps that the gameplay does not allow for. Only read them if you want to, your not missing out on anything gamewise.

And you can see any new signatures on any of your posts, you dont need to post again to see them btw.

You have to remember that almost everything written in there can be used against your character in the Senate.

/Bean\
12-31-2008, 11:11
Oh good, I'm glad they are useful then. Potocello, I've changed my mind. Get reading! :clown:

Ibn-Khaldun
12-31-2008, 11:42
@navarro - You really should change the 'Satrap' in the Rule 2.4 point 6. :beam:


(6) Every Satrap will have an 8 unit Provincial Legion similar to a Standard Legion. Every Satrap should mention what type of Legion they wish: a) an Infantry legion(5 infantry, 2 missile, 1 cavalry regiment); b) a Cavalry Auxilla( 2 infantry, 2 missile, 4 cavalry regiments); c) or a Mixed Legion(3 infantry, 3 missile, 2 cavalry regiments). They can however get to recruit 1 local unit for every 2 Influence points and 1 local unit for every 3 Command stars. (The unit type of the additional units can be what ever the Satrap chooses)

navarro951
12-31-2008, 12:17
my bad...in basing this game much off of yours these things happen lol changed now.