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Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2009, 00:01
hmm, I'd say go with the no lynch option then (just don't vote anybody). Can't do any harm now, can it?
Askthepizzaguy
04-02-2009, 00:03
Could result in a draw or a hidden win condition for the usurpers.
Maybe the Priest king gets agitated or OsiOsi comes down and annihilates everyone.
I think that if there is one Vode agent remaining, we should find them or we risk a draw after all this. Unless you're happy with a draw.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2009, 00:16
I disagree.
Why are the servants of Vode compelled to tell us how doomed we are?
Do I sense a nervous atmosphere among their ranks?
What will the host do If we do not vote at all? Will he use the fair random.org to off one of the living?
Let's play a game of chicken. Let's see if we can fracture the coolness of the Mafia.
I think this was proposed while you were still a little AWOL, but before you stabbed yourself in the gut. I just checked the rules and it says it's all up to Priest-King Roink as to whether or not someone will be lynched - whether Abstain votes are in the majority or not. I think it was established in the last couple of turns (?), that someone would go to the gallows each day no matter what the tally was...
In any case, let's look at the suspects:
Shinseikhaan is an inscrutable poet.
Lord Winter - there has been some suspicion on him, but - other than a lower than average contribution, as far as quantity is concerned, I can't think of any reason why he would be anything other than what he says he is.
Psychonaut - from contributions - his reveal as the distributor of booze sits well with me. I imagine Psychonaut would have been far more active if he had a role with any dangerous power to it - town or mafia.
boudica - me
Ichigo - No idea if the guy is alive or dead. Mash the keyboard if you need medical attention ol' fella and pray someone has your address.
Whether investigative power is effective or not seems irrelevant at this stage as far as our priest Yoyoma is concerned: If he is a mafia then he has repeatedly done a deliberate disservice to his cause with the string of Usurper lynches - not to mention the stringing up of a chaos demi-god - following his clinical detective work. If Yoyoma is mafia it is either a sketchy plan - or a skin crawlingly-audacious plan - that finds him in this endgame scenario...
Tristan de Castelreng - apparently investigated and innocent by the living-god Pisuf - but I don't remember seeing a role - can we have a look again please Tristan? or a link to it would be useful. There was talk of vote tampering, which sounds fairly harmless, in that it seems like a simple role to add some spice to the game, but I wouldn't want to be going up against a vote tamperer who had something to hide. Maybe I've missed some vital post exhonorating you Tristan, but right now I am more suspicious of you than anyone else because I don't feel comfortable with what remains unrevealed about him. Reenks addition to the write-up:
"OK, I keep forgetting the drunk guys. Tristan de Castelreng wandered about the town, cursing the plebeians. "
seems pretty throw-away (he forgot to put the fact that Psychonaut obviously blocked Tristan in the main write-up)... but then maybe Reenk wouldn't want to point the finger too directly at the only Usurper left without a night-kill ability to boot. There definitely needs to be some cooperative answers coming from the 'Pleb-Curser', as the only other suspect left is our ruddy cheeked, wool-huggin' mason friend:
Seamus. Personally I believe his innocence. He has probably forgotten what his initial victory condition was by now. If you can't remember what it was Seamus; it was to secure the doom of Beefy the Tax Collector and ensure that your mason partner remained silent throughout the course of the game - no matter how many questions people found themselves compelled to ask him.
I shall vote: Tristan until a response is forth-coming. Anyone who has a problem with plebians, has a problem with me.
Hey, he's a good man. We are entitled to cursing the plebs all we want. ...Stupid mother :daisy: plow-user peasent.
There is merit in the idea of going for a majority abstain vote. The Vode agent can't kill, so if the town refuses to lynch anyone else, he can't whittle us down any further. The rules specifically say that Reenk will decide what happens if abstain gets the majority. While that could be something bad, it could also be something good. It's worth a try at least once IMO.
However, if you must lynch someone, it might as well be Yoyoma. Vode specifically said that he was the eyes of the remaining person. Yoyoma claims to be the Eye of OsiOsi. Perhaps this is a cover role for the Eye of Vode (double cover role?). Or, perhaps Yoyoma got coverted to Vode, since we know he's already been corrupted once. Maybe instead of returning to OsiOsi when he was 'released' from his conversion to Pisuf, he went over to Vode. Since investigations are pretty much useless now, this is enough for me to start thinking that he's the best choice.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2009, 01:00
In my opinion, it's immoral to persecute someone who isn't doing you any harm, based solely on their religion. Especially with an inaccurate system of handing out justice!
Reenk Roink
04-02-2009, 02:09
Reenk, when you post the end scene you better not be like "Commentary coming in a week or so", that's all I have to say.
I don't even want to begin to think of a commentary on this game. :wall:
GeneralHankerchief
04-02-2009, 03:19
Hah, you all need to appreciate me a little bit more now. :laugh4:
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 05:30
Gentleman, I feel that we have been played
That from the narrow path we have all strayed.
I vote: Yoyoma because
He now doth not like our laws
And a pleading message from many days.
This from a man who changes his name like dirty diapers.
Y'all lynch me if you want. From what I can tell, though, I'm being accused of pulling a 'Khaan by, well, 'Khaan. And, quite frankly, that's not really my style. I don't really have time to keep doing this, and I don't really care about winning for myself. But I know some of you likely do, and you all deserve to win if possible, so I'm still going.
Anyway:
Vote:Khaan
A) Who wouldn't want to convert him to their side.
B) Things are just too quiet.
C) I just don't trust him.
D) I'd imagine whoever was converted was likely already investigated.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-02-2009, 05:56
boudica - me
How could we ever desire a better assessment! Shakespearean in scope!
Seamus. Personally I believe his innocence. He has probably forgotten what his initial victory condition was by now. If you can't remember what it was Seamus; it was to secure the doom of Beefy the Tax Collector and ensure that your mason partner remained silent throughout the course of the game - no matter how many questions people found themselves compelled to ask him.
I remember the part about outlasting the Beef. But keeping pizza quiet? Geer off woman! Yeer daft!
~;)
I don't even want to begin to think of a commentary on this game. :wall:
Lazy buggers come crashing into the wall... :smartass2:
You should have done as I did in my last Midgard saga. Keep a commentary running while you host, then when the game ends, you only have a few paragraphs left to add. Violá, you have a commentary within hours.
Lord Winter
04-02-2009, 06:33
Vote: yoyoma
The investagation results are obviously flawed, thus at best we can kill off one more scum where at worse we merely get rid of an irrelevent role.
Hmmm, Lord Winter's statement doesn't sit well with me. They way it is written is tweaking my intuition.
Lots of things have happened over the last couple of weeks. All of them weren't very good or pleasant for me. It's been fairly rough and that's why I've been absent for a while. I'll try to catch up but it's unlikely I will. Sorry RR.:bow:
The taunts from Jolt and now Andres, does not sit well with me.
Jolt's taunts are claiming we will never guess who it is.
Andres claims a new reqruit has emerged.
Why would they do this? I would personally keep as much as possible a secret. If we would for a second believe they play as good as me ;) there are no new player and the remaining culprit would be obvious.
'khaan would be my lynch choice this round. He obviously needs someone dead this round. The logical choice this round would be a no lynch to see what that would do. But if someone has to go it would be 'khaan.
Lots of things have happened over the last couple of weeks. All of them weren't very good or pleasant for me. It's been fairly rough and that's why I've been absent for a while. I'll try to catch up but it's unlikely I will. Sorry RR.:bow:
Welcome back, Ichigo ~:wave:
_Tristan_
04-02-2009, 08:15
I was thinking along the same lines, Sigurd...
What if those taunts were meant to have us at each other's throats when in fact there is no scum left, or none that matters (no kill potential) ?
For that reason, I'll Vote : Abstain.
Better be safe than sorry...
And @ Boudica : if you want to know more about my role PM, contact me by PM and we'll see where we can go from there...
I was thinking along the same lines, Sigurd...
What if those taunts were meant to have us at each other's throats when in fact there is no scum left, or none that matters (no kill potential) ?
For that reason, I'll Vote : Abstain.
Better be safe than sorry...
And @ Boudica : if you want to know more about my role PM, contact me by PM and we'll see where we can go from there...
I only asked for your role pm as I think pretty much everyone else has revealed or been investigated/revealed at some point in the game, but I don't recall seeing yours. I also agree that an abstain vote would be preferable - at least for one day, to see how the Priest-King judges things ... (Maybe he's just setting us up for a sequel:inquisitive:), but as it stands, Yoyoma already has votes on him and (assuming he is innocent as I suspect) I don't think he deserve the lynch for the reasons I stated in my analysis above. Although I am suspicious of 'Khaan's vote on him, I understand it: 'Khaan can either see some guilt in Yoyoma that I can't - or he just wants this to be done and dusted. As you seem to have something to hide as regards the vote tampering; until you are more honest with us (and by that I mean with all of us in the thread, I don't see how a PM conversation would help matters??), or the votes come back off Yoyoma: My vote stays with you.
No! No, you MUST lynch this round or the Vode-Iffo alliance will go down and we will lose. Please, townies, dig your own graves and lynch somebody.
Welcome back, Ichigo ~:wave:
Thanks :beam:
LittleGrizzly
04-02-2009, 09:48
Can i just remind anyone listening to Andres mad ramblings that he is a solo serial killer... not a vode or iffo agent... so unless something strange is happening Andres would have exactly zero knowledge of any vode iffo alliance...
Ignore the unhelpful lynchee!
Also lets not give Jolt the time of day either...
I suppose if you were to convert someone who better than 'khaan ?
His roleplaying of his poet role does give him great cover...
Also im 99% sure that Yoyoma is not guilty!
DO NOT LYNCH YOYOMA!
Vote: Lord Winter
Intuition.
Vote: Lord Winter
Intuition.
tally so far:
Yoyoma: 2 (Shinseikhaan, Lord Winter)
Tristan de Castelreng: 1(boudica)
Khaan: 1 (Yoyoma)
Lord Winter: 1 (Psychonaut)
Abstain: 1 (Tristan de Castelreng)
While Tristan is being cagey with his vote-tampering role and his reasons for hating plebians I also find Lord Winter's vote on Yoyoma to be a tad over-eager.
Can i just remind anyone listening to Andres mad ramblings that he is a solo serial killer... not a vode or iffo agent... so unless something strange is happening Andres would have exactly zero knowledge of any vode iffo alliance...
Ignore the unhelpful lynchee!
Ah, you actually believed that. Nice :2thumbsup:
That tally is incorrect, the vote of the good men counts double.
Correct tally:
Yoyoma: 3 (Shinseikhaan, Lord Winter)
Tristan de Castelreng: 1(boudica)
Khaan: 2 (Yoyoma)
Lord Winter: 1 (Psychonaut)
Abstain: 2 (Tristan de Castelreng)
:oops: sorry - my bad - I'm terrible at totting up tallys.
FoS : boudica
Messing with the tally in a crucial round of the game.
And why would it be "crucial" exactly Mr. .... supposed serial killer?
Getting nervous? :yes:
I still say majority abstain is worth trying once.
LittleGrizzly
04-02-2009, 11:58
Ah, you actually believed that. Nice
Well my detective result told me you were a serial killer (of sorts) so yes i tend to believe that... so unless something strange is happening... you are just here to confuse!
Even if you do have knowledge of it your obviously not trying to help the town... so your trying to confuse!
Im hoping Tristan will add a vote for 'khaan..
Who voted the other player first... 'khaan or yoyoma ?
I still say majority abstain is worth trying once.
And risk Reenk killing all townies?
Maybe, if we all worship hard enough, he may limit it to only the good men?
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/aanbidden.gif
LittleGrizzly
04-02-2009, 12:22
How about we kill the remaining good men so andres will finally be happy! ~;)
The mafioso are within their rights to try and mess with us. They were apparently up against 5-6 (!) people who could investigate, so they're allowed to have their fun in death.
How about we kill the remaining good men so andres will finally be happy! ~;)
I'm already happy. One more round and I'll feast on Vode's money while oppressing inferior beings :jumping:
Askthepizzaguy
04-02-2009, 13:47
I just want you guys to know, I will get my revenge. Just because I am dead, that doesn't mean I am not still converting people to my side.
WHY have you not banished me yet?
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 14:02
I voted for 'Khaan after he voted for me. But I was mainly doing it as a way to emphasis my suspicion on him. He's been very quiet lately, and then stepped forward to vote for me. I don't think my death right now is a good idea, and I'm only hoping I have another chance or two to help town with this.
I'm going to go back to my theory from yesterday:
unvote:'Khaan
Vote:Abstain
I'll bow to the decision of the Priest King. May he guide our settlement to peace and prosperity.
I don't think my death right now is a good idea, and I'm only hoping I have another chance or two to help town with this.
Your death is not a good idea right now? Will it be a good idea tomorrow? You need only one more round to accomplish your mission?
You want another chance to help town? That doesn't really sound like you have a true pro-town role.
:inquisitive:
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 14:10
Your death is not a good idea right now? Will it be a good idea tomorrow? You need only one more round to accomplish your mission?
You want another chance to help town? That doesn't really sound like you have a true pro-town role.
:inquisitive:
No it wouldn't be a good idea tommorow, but if you read the copy of the PM from Reenk I posted, you'll see that it says:
You once again prepare the night vigil, with a sense of growing urgency to root out the last usurper.
If you have a problem with my attitude towards the situation, you'll have to take it up with the game host.
Reenk Roink
04-02-2009, 14:17
Lots of things have happened over the last couple of weeks. All of them weren't very good or pleasant for me. It's been fairly rough and that's why I've been absent for a while. I'll try to catch up but it's unlikely I will. Sorry RR.:bow:
No problem Ichigo, good to see all is well and welcome back. :bow:
GeneralHankerchief
04-02-2009, 14:20
khaan promised me a sonnet when the game got tight at the end and he was voicing his final suspicions. No such sonnet has yet appeared.
In all seriousness, this smells like khaan all over. I suggest you lynch him.
-edit- for the record, this does have a small basis in fact. Reenk has several times made a point to note khaan's contributions to the thread. Seems like a thing that Reenk would do and point out in the commentary (if there is one) later.
I voted for 'Khaan after he voted for me. But I was mainly doing it as a way to emphasis my suspicion on him. He's been very quiet lately, and then stepped forward to vote for me. I don't think my death right now is a good idea, and I'm only hoping I have another chance or two to help town with this.
Ironically, one of the reasons I've slowly been getting uneasy with you is your almost complete neutrality in the thread. You've just been sitting back, posting your investigation results, and making mild commentary that doesn't accuse anyone for several days now. This is not helpful to the town and it seems scummy. I'm getting a very uneasy feeling about this game at the moment and the one person who would have the ability to manipulate the town into lynching itself into oblivion is you, since you're the only detective left alive. I would feel a lot more comfortable if you would speak up and let us know who you think is acting scummy and why.
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 14:33
Ironically, one of the reasons I've slowly been getting uneasy with you is your almost complete neutrality in the thread. You've just been sitting back, posting your investigation results, and making mild commentary that doesn't accuse anyone for several days now. This is not helpful to the town and it seems scummy. I'm getting a very uneasy feeling about this game at the moment and the one person who would have the ability to manipulate the town into lynching itself into oblivion is you, since you're the only detective left alive. I would feel a lot more comfortable if you would speak up and let us know who you think is acting scummy and why.
You mean like this PM I sent you?
So...
I had already sent in my orders to investigate Seamus...
I'm thinking it's possible that it would however be someone I already investigated... like 'Khaan, or maybe even boudica, who I never investigated but someone else did.
Edit:
Or my post from yesterday:
This from a man who changes his name like dirty diapers.
Y'all lynch me if you want. From what I can tell, though, I'm being accused of pulling a 'Khaan by, well, 'Khaan. And, quite frankly, that's not really my style. I don't really have time to keep doing this, and I don't really care about winning for myself. But I know some of you likely do, and you all deserve to win if possible, so I'm still going.
Anyway:
Vote:Khaan
A) Who wouldn't want to convert him to their side.
B) Things are just too quiet.
C) I just don't trust him.
D) I'd imagine whoever was converted was likely already investigated.
The PM you sent me didn't accuse anyone of anything or give any reasons for actually suspecting a particular person. Your vote on khaan was retaliatory and came only after attention had been focused on you. It doesn't ring true.
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 14:41
TinCow:
Please understand, in this game, in a matter of a couple of turns, we went from having a massive amount of solid evidence and information to a virtual trickle. And what is there to replace it? Speculation?!?
You want me to suddenly start focusing on speculation as opposed to results!?!
How is that possible compensatory, compared to the rooting abilities of the earlier portion of the game?
Yes, I do. You are just as much aware as I am that the investigation results are likely a dead end. Obviously you will (and should) keep investigating for as long as you are alive, but it's time to start moving over to other avenues of analysis. I have won as mafia twice. In both of those victories, I survived the end phase by manipulating the town into an ever narrowing list of lynch suspects based on who supposedly could and who could not be a mafioso. The town didn't realize that this list of 'the only possible' suspects was itself manipulated by my mafia team to focus attention away from us. I am concerned that is what is starting to happen here, and I am trying to deflect it before we get caught in that trap.
We still have many day phases left and we can afford to take this slow and steady. People need to talk, accuse each other, point out inconsistencies, and explain reasons for suspicion. At this point in the game, the information derived from those conversations will be more valuable than the now somewhat questionable detective results. If we keep quiet and do not start speculating, then we are in danger of losing.
We still have many day phases left and we can afford to take this slow and steady.
No, you can't. This is the final round :smash:
Reenk Roink
04-02-2009, 16:16
:stupido: Day 9
As the sky dimmed, the discussion which had started off so slowly had engaged into a heated debate by the end. Even the quietest man of them all Ichigo spoke up. The noble man known as Yoyoma was fingered the most, especially by some spirits of the dead, but as the tally was counted up, the support for abstaining was the strongest.
"A wise choice," remarked the priest king Reenk Roink. "Your fruitful discussions earlier had come to a standstill. Though it is not surprising, as although this last threat may be unable to harm us, he certainly is the most able to escape our harm."
"I will now decide what to do in this situation. As you know, I have many options, but I have decided to choose from among you eight settlers, one who will be executed. May the gods guide my random choice.
After a moment of deliberation, the priest king shouted: "Tristan de Castelreng! Come up here, for the gods have selected you today. Shall you be guilty, then the gods have certainly been most kind to us. Shall you be innocent, then may the gods look after you in the next life."
Tristan de Castelreng vomited in his mouth after hearing of his doom. He began to plead: "Please my lord Reenk Roink, I have always thought this system of having these settlers vote was a terrible idea. Especially the common rabble, may the world be free from there hideous sight, with their greasy and unruly hair, their dirt covered faces, their chewed off fingernails, their atrocious clothing, and their unbearable scent. I know, I'll change the tally!"
As Tristan de Castelreng walked up to the tablet with the tally, he suddenly stopped and cried out in pain: "Damn this hangover, oh I give up! Please priest king, I hear a sword to the neck is a most effective chaser."
Reenk Roink obliged and personally chopped out the head of the hungover oligarch. As he looked at the body of Tristan de Castelreng, a realization came over him that the man he had chosen was not the threat he sought.
He turned to the settlers and said with urgency: "Try harder and find the threat!"
Voting Record:
Shinseikhaan votes Yoyoma1910
boudica votes Tristan de Castelreng
Yoyoma1910 votes Shinseikhaan
Lord Winter votes Yoyoma1910
Tristan de Castelreng votes abstain
Psychonaut votes Lord Winter
Yoyoma1910 votes abstain - final
Challenge Record:
none
Vote Tally:
Yoyoma1910 - 3 (Shinseikhaan, Lord Winter)
Lord Winter - 1 (Psychonaut)
Tristan de Castelreng - 1 (boudica)
abstain - 4 (Tristan de Castelreng, Yoyoma1910)
Challenge List:
Alive:
Shinseikhaan
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
boudica
Ichigo
Yoyoma1910
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Andres
TinCow
Jolt
CountArach
Sigurd
Tristan de Castelreng
Fallen in battle:
taka
Captain Blackadder
White_eyes:D
Killed:
TheFlax
pevergreen
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sasaki Kojiro
Beefy187
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
LittleGrizzly
orders please
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2009, 16:29
You should definitely lynch yoyoma. He took himself off the chopping block with that abstain vote.
Reenk Roink
04-02-2009, 16:36
hmm, I'd say go with the no lynch option then (just don't vote anybody). Can't do any harm now, can it?
In the case that nobody votes, again, it will be wholly up to the priest king Reenk Roink.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-02-2009, 17:14
Murder appears to be a thing of the past. We shall soon see if this continues for another night.
Why don't we get the dead townies* such as Tincow, Pizza and GH to each pick 1 survivor and THOROUGHLY try to write a "lynch this one" case on them. We let all 7 cases get posted early in the next day phase and then each of us 7 tries to shoot down our own case. Should let everyone see who's stuff rings true and which one seems a hint "off."
With potential conversions and/or other role adjustments, simple investigation cannot be presumed to be correct of itself and should form no more than part of the assessment.
Seem like a good system?
*While Sasaki, Andres, and Arach would be excellent authors for such a thing, their motives in this game may not make them a good choice here.
Askthepizzaguy
04-02-2009, 17:59
I'm afraid I cannot do that... I'm busy eating those who have been killed.
*num num num*
I suggest we do things the only way that works: pick someone randomly at kill them!
A thorough analysis of someone's behavior is greatly complicated by the possibility that the current mafioso was converted after the game started. Lord Winter is pretty much the only person left uninvestigated who could have started out as a usurper. He's the obvious person for Yoyoma to investigate tonight, so I'd like to wait and see the results on that before I get myself completely focused on the conversion idea. I've been straddling the two for a while now and it would be nice to be able to cross one off and move on to the other. In addition, if Yoyoma chooses to investigate someone other than LW, that will be interesting information in and of itself.
Also, I've got to do dinner at the in-laws tonight, and don't have time to do a thorough re-read in the next 24 hours. :creep:
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 18:15
If you're going to lynch me, do me a favor and do it next turn.
thx.
Askthepizzaguy
04-02-2009, 18:16
I tend to think we can wait one more round on Yoyoma, to see Lord Winter.
I'm so nervous right now :sweatdrop:
How will I look after my resurrection? Better than before, probably. And if not, I have plenty of money to do some plastic surgery. :2thumbsup:
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2009, 20:29
I'm so nervous right now :sweatdrop:
How will I look after my resurrection? Better than before, probably. And if not, I have plenty of money to do some plastic surgery. :2thumbsup:
I know of a good surgeon...you just have to drink some special koolade, and Kefy will fix you up for free!
I know of a good surgeon...you just have to drink some special koolade, and Kefy will fix you up for free!
Trying to take advantage of an honest and respected dead man? I won't fall for your tricks and lies!
Charlatan!
LittleGrizzly
04-02-2009, 20:52
honest and respected dead man?
Where? Is he standing behind you and Sasaki?
~;)
Sasaki Kojiro
04-02-2009, 20:58
honest and respected dead man?
Where? Is he standing behind you and Sasaki?
~;)
People don't respect corpses who have had their heads chopped off. Well known fact.
And uh...the kind they most respect is the corpses that have been turned into fish, then stabbed, then eaten.
People don't respect corpses who have had their heads chopped off. Well known fact.
And uh...the kind they most respect is the corpses that have been turned into fish, then stabbed, then eaten.
:laugh4: :yes:
Yoyoma1910
04-02-2009, 23:45
I want to see if I've gotten this straight.
I'm being accused by the man who caused my first conversion by sharing my identity with the converter of possibly being converted again, and trying to sway the vote of the town because I'm posting my actual findings as opposed to random speculations on a seemingly constant changing rule system.
CountArach
04-03-2009, 00:33
People don't respect corpses who have had their heads chopped off. Well known fact.
And uh...the kind they most respect is the corpses that have been turned into fish, then stabbed, then eaten.
Why is my stomach growling?
Why is my stomach growling?
Because you're dead, and its the stomach ejecting the food.
I want to see if I've gotten this straight.
I'm being accused by the man who caused my first conversion by sharing my identity with the converter of possibly being converted again, and trying to sway the vote of the town because I'm posting my actual findings as opposed to random speculations on a seemingly constant changing rule system.
I caused your conversion? You've got to be kidding me. The only person I was every loyal to was myself. I didn't ever fully trust either you or CA. It didn't make one bit of difference to me whether you two knew who each other were because the only person I knew for sure was actually pro-town was me and I couldn't do anything about either of you. Both you and CA told me exactly who I was without prompting, which cornered me and gave me almost no room to operate. It's not my fault you got converted by CA when I had no way of knowing he had that power. From my perspective, the only way I was prepared to trust either of you was if you each investigated each other, then I could play the two of you off against each other as a hedge against one of you betraying me. If I had known that bringing you two together would result in you uniting against me, I certainly would not have done it. Considering you then happily allowed me to get killed off, you'll forgive me for not totally trusting you. At this point, the only person in our 'group' that I consider fully credible is LG. If you want to prove your loyalty to the town, then work hard for a town victory.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 06:20
Well then you should have been the one investigating him, not I.
Yes, we do indeed have similar mind sets. I am exceptionally wary of townie groups, but given the massive amount of investigating power we potentially have at our fingertips, I don't think this is a situation we can pass up. So, if we're going to do this, I agree that we need to be sure about each other beforehand.
I think you definitely need to investigate Pisuf, not LG or I. My reasoning is that he has already committed a murder, and I wouldn't want there to be some chance of a fuzzy pseudo-guilty result coming back as a result of that. You can see exactly who he is, regardless of what he has done. Perhaps we should in turn have Pisuf investigate you as well, that way the two of you (who are the most powerful) would have full info on each other. I could then investigate LG, and LG could simply stay out of it and we could bring him in afterwards if he proves to be innocent.
Whatever we do, I think it is important that we don't spend more than one night investigating each other, so we'd better get it organized properly so that we can all trust the results. Thoughts?
Here's my thought in the matter:
Little Griz has already confirmed you and I to each other. It would be good if you could confirm him this round, to make sure he's not a mafia investigator trying to piggy back. If he's settler, then we the three of us are each double confirmed.
Pisuf needs a confirmation back. If you investigated him, I'm willing to support it. There's always the possibility, however, that he would want to take out another god's oracle. That may be his goal in this. That makes me a little wary. Perhaps then it would be better if there was some buffer.
It would be good if we can focus all of the investigations that we can towards sweeping the populace as quickly and thoroughly as possible. But we also need to double check and see if anyone amongst us 4 are possible a mole or have ulterior motives.
Reenk Roink
04-03-2009, 06:36
:stupido:
The sun rose once again and the settlers once again converged at the gathering hall. For a while, they were a bit worried as the Shinsei named Khaan was not present, but he was found inebriated, writhing in a pool of vomit and urine composing while dirty limericks. So the discussions began...
Challenge List:
Alive:
Shinseikhaan
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
boudica
Ichigo
Yoyoma1910
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Andres
TinCow
Jolt
CountArach
Sigurd
Tristan de Castelreng
Fallen in battle:
taka
Captain Blackadder
White_eyes:D
Killed:
TheFlax
pevergreen
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sasaki Kojiro
Beefy187
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
LittleGrizzly
Day ends Friday, April 3 at 22:00 Eastern
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 06:37
Lord Winter is only just a farmer.
Askthepizzaguy
04-03-2009, 06:41
I think it's hilarious just how utterly, utterly useless the masons were in a game with so many investigators. Hopefully, lynching me allowed you guys to get the work done.
See? Being willing to die for town can be a good thing.
Lord Winter is only just a farmer.
Without wishing to appear pedantic (I know you'll appreciate it ;P) Can you restructure that statement to make Lord Winter seem less suspicious :laugh4:
I think it's hilarious just how utterly, utterly useless the masons were in a game with so many investigators. Hopefully, lynching me allowed you guys to get the work done.
See? Being willing to die for town can be a good thing.
I think we are still waiting to see how 'helpful' that actually was ATPG
The remaining suspects:
Shinseikhaan - a hungover inscrutable poet
Lord Winter - only just a farmer? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
Psychonaut - still doing what he does best with his complimentary pomaigne
boudica - me
Ichigo - not absent (good to see you back on the thread Ichigo - have you had a chance to read any of it?)
Yoyoma1910 - Excellent detective work - and the exchange posted with TinCow doesn't make me any more suspicious of him - just a shame we seem to have run into a brick wall investigation wise...
Seamus Fermanagh Still shearing sheep I assume while waiting to pick up his Tax rebate
Given an apparent innocent report by Yoyoma on Lord Winter, I have less of an idea about how to proceed than I did yesterday. All the undead settlers posting seem to have had some other agenda and they are the only people calling for lynches form what I can make out. I'll be interested to see if 'Khaan is as keen to vote for our detective again today but I feel we should leave this in our Priest-Kings hands, and hopefully he's found a way of deciding the matter without Psychonaut slowly killing all of us by alcoholic poisoning ~:cheers:
vote: abstain
Askthepizzaguy
04-03-2009, 09:43
I think we are still waiting to see how 'helpful' that actually was ATPGIf you're talking theory, I'll take that challenge!
What would have been a better lynch? I had almost no duel ability, and I had no special abilities whatsoever, beyond knowing that Seamus could be innocent, and with recruitment, that is impossible to know anyway. The only better lynch would have been a usurper or other anti-townie. And by lynching me, it was possible to find such people without wasting a useful townie's life. With certainty, no good useful role was wasted, and I removed myself as a suspect, so I wouldn't be a tempting target in later rounds instead of a guilty party. The only better move, would be that totally random lynch of a baddie, which given the odds at the time, would be pretty farfetched. Possibly hitting an innocent useful townie versus the less likely chance of hitting an anti-town player... or absolutely making sure that all pro-townie roles get their chance to work their magic to find the usurpers? I choose the safer option, and apparently, I wasn't the only one who thought it was a good idea, as I ended up deader than a box full of decapitated squirrels.
It's a matter of townie theory, and I think I'm on solid ground here. It becomes less and less effective or useful in later rounds, and I will never offer myself up for a lynch past the midpoint of a game, because that's when it becomes very damaging and less helpful.
Of course, that's all theoretical... technically, there was a chance to kill a usurper, and random chance may have allowed that to happen, so it's not absolutely the best move. But it was perhaps the odds-favored move, safest for town.
Plus if I were mafia you kill me anyway. Because I'd "never" offer myself up for the lynch, several times, as a mafioso.
If you're talking theory, I'll take that challenge!
What would have been a better lynch? I had almost no duel ability, and I had no special abilities whatsoever, beyond knowing that Seamus could be innocent, and with recruitment, that is impossible to know anyway. The only better lynch would have been a usurper or other anti-townie. And by lynching me, it was possible to find such people without wasting a useful townie's life. With certainty, no good useful role was wasted, and I removed myself as a suspect, so I wouldn't be a tempting target in later rounds instead of a guilty party. The only better move, would be that totally random lynch of a baddie, which given the odds at the time, would be pretty farfetched. Possibly hitting an innocent useful townie versus the less likely chance of hitting an anti-town player... or absolutely making sure that all pro-townie roles get their chance to work their magic to find the usurpers? I choose the safer option, and apparently, I wasn't the only one who thought it was a good idea, as I ended up deader than a box full of decapitated squirrels.
It's a matter of townie theory, and I think I'm on solid ground here. It becomes less and less effective or useful in later rounds, and I will never offer myself up for a lynch past the midpoint of a game, because that's when it becomes very damaging and less helpful.
Of course, that's all theoretical... technically, there was a chance to kill a usurper, and random chance may have allowed that to happen, so it's not absolutely the best move. But it was perhaps the odds-favored move, safest for town.
Plus if I were mafia you kill me anyway. Because I'd "never" offer myself up for the lynch, several times, as a mafioso.
I disagree.
Victory condition in all mafia games : your team must outnumber the other team.
Dead of player X reduces the numbers of his team with 1.
Ergo: dead of player X does not help his team to obtain victory.
***
Anyway, back to the game at hand: I think Yoyoma1910 is innocent. He has been cooperative with town all game long and has offered you guys more than one good lynch target on a silver plate during this game. It simply wouldn't make sense for him to be one of the bad guys.
Askthepizzaguy
04-03-2009, 09:53
I'd think that lynching a detective would qualify as being worse. In a game with many pro-town roles, a certain non-role lynch versus a very likely pro-town role lynch makes for a safer and less simplistic path forward. But that is why it is theory; it doesn't work in all cases, and there is room for debate.
But I agree, back to the topic at hand.
Ichigo - not absent (good to see you back on the thread Ichigo - have you had a chance to read any of it?)
I've made it to the end of the first day phase, which means I've basically accomplished nothing at all. Sad Ichi is sad :bigcry: :wall:
_Tristan_
04-03-2009, 11:12
Well I'm stumped.
... and I'm dead thanks to your cursed beverage (and random.org... :furious3:)
LittleGrizzly
04-03-2009, 11:34
Out of interest has Ichigo been investigated ??
The only theory i have is that maybe he made seamus will hidden scum with his name in pizzas role like he did with TC and (some guy) in midgaard saga II
Edit: well hiden as in investigator can't detect him... even with a god giving him the information...
Out of interest has Ichigo been investigated ??
Yeah, Ichigo was Iffo's servant or so. Apparently, he doesn't have the ability to kill, only to recruit for the Vode-Iffo alliance. Nothing to worry about.
Psychonaut, boudica and pevergreen are better lynch candidates.
LittleGrizzly
04-03-2009, 11:50
Apparently, he doesn't have the ability to kill, only to recruit for the Vode-Iffo alliance. Nothing to worry about.
Ohh well thats reassuring... glad we have our friendly nieghbourhood serial killer to help guide us on these kind of things ~;)
If the living are not going to vote, then this game will be decided by random.org ?
:inquisitive:
Ok, Iffo was killed on Day 6. After that point, the only scum we knew of who was still alive was CA and we know that CA had previously used his single recruiting power on Yoyoma (according to Yoyoma). So, if Yoyoma is trustworthy, the recruitment occurred before Day 6. Thus, if Yoyoma is still pro-town, all of his results after Day 6 should be reliable. If Yoyoma is lynched and the game does not end, that would prove he was still pro-town and thus clear Seamus and Lord Winter, since they were investigated after the time in which our scum would have to have been recruited. This in itself is far more useful information than Yoyoma could produce while alive at this point, because at the moment we can't fully trust his results. Two verified innocent results are far better than 6-7 uncertain results. If Yoyoma is our scum, then the game is over. I think the town benefits from a Yoyoma lynch today no matter what his status is.
I won't deny that I found it very amusing to see how you guys lynched your mightiest pro-town role, but,... who said CountArach was scum?
LittleGrizzly
04-03-2009, 12:30
It was Yoyoma who brought us the information on CA
He didn't kill once when we were lynching him... which does lead me to wonder somewhat...
But his role was hugely powerful... the kind of role that could very likely go for a solo victory... and i think most players would certainly consider the idea...
The main thing that leads me to believe yoyoma about CA is the fact that CA completely lied about his investigation result on the one night when he supposedly turned.. if he wasn't actually being turned then why did he need to make up a result on that night instead of actually doing an investigation ?
So on balance i think we were right to lynch CA which yoyoma directed us towards...
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 14:16
Psychonaut, boudica and pevergreen are better lynch candidates.
Interesting thought on pevergreen, would you mind extrapolating.
Interesting thought on pevergreen, would you mind extrapolating.
1) his name starts with the "P" of Pissuf;
2) his name has 4 "e"'s in it; the "e" of "Edov"; read that backwards and you get "Vode";
3) he also has the "e" of "Klefy";
4) he has the "v", which is in fact a badly pronounced "f" from "Iffo";
5) he's dead and thus cannot be lynched, which makes him overpowered;
6) green is so outdated and who doesn't prefer blue over green?
7) I saw him eating a spicy meatball;
8) The above is all complete and utter nonsense. The real reason to lynch pever is under 9);
9) Hi, I'm Andres and I'm here to bring confusion;
10) dum dudum dudumdumdum
seireikhaan
04-03-2009, 16:13
Yoyoma must die
As such, I vote: Yoyoma
Let us end this game.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:03
Yoyoma must die
As such, I vote: Yoyoma
Let us end this game.
You're silly.
What case have you against me?
The case against Yoyoma1910 (in spoilers, because it's long and boring):
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Case.jpg
Summary: it doesn't matter if you are sure that Yoyoma1910 is scum or not, it's in the town's best interest to lynch him.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-03-2009, 17:11
Has anyone seen the crucible?
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:12
Personally I think it's a very bad idea, and so I refuse to support it.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-03-2009, 17:13
Personally I think it's a very bad idea, and so I refuse to support it.
Why? It's a pretty good movie, though Winona Rider isn't the best actress
:driver:
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:15
You shouldn't post while driving. It's unhealthy.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:19
Here's lord winter:
You go back to the quiet of your home after enduring all the accusations and begin the night vigil to OsiOsi, seeking the true nature of the man who calls himself a lord and likes the winter:
Farming is the eternal war continuously being waged by mankind against the relentlessly invading hordes of the evil plant kingdom.
:stupido: Definition of farming
You are a Farmer
Background:
In the beginning the gods/mods decided to create a game. A mortal multiplayer on-earth role playing game called Life. So they created the Earth. Then they created the factions that would inhabit the Earth. On the one hand there were the plants, a faction of seemingly passive warriors who overwhelmed others with their sheer numbers. On the other hand there were the animals, who were much less stationary and much less numerous than the plants.
The animals at first were seriously nerfed, with only some among them being able to cause minimal damage the plants by grazing attacks. What was worse was that animal poop was plant food! For a long time, the plants pwned the animals. Plant spamming was a frequent complaint to the gods/mods.
Obviously the game was unbalanced so the gods/mods decided to introduce a new animal class: the human. The human was the most dangerous animal yet. However, the human had a long learning curve so for quite some time the plants had an easy time pwing the human players who were all noobs at that point. Their gathering attack was even less effective against the plants than the other animals' grazing attacks.
Eventually however, some clans playing on certain maps unlocked a new package: the farmer. For the first time, the humans began to turn the tide against the plants, much to the chagrin of the latter who accused the humans of h4x. Now that the basic techniques of farming have been honed the learning curve is gone and over 70% of players now choose to be farmers.
Beware, however, as the gods/mods are rumored to introduce a new expansion pack called Urbanization which will nerf the farmer and force him to the margins of Life! Luckily the release date is a long time away. Until then, you will continue to rack up the points as a farmer. You did have to find a new server though, as you got banned from your old one.
Battle Rating:
2 - You don't have any type of military training and are dirt poor (actually you have a lot of dirt...) but you are ripped from toiling the fields all day and can swing a mean hoe.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
So everyone has been investigated. Is khaan's role PM in the thread, I've done a search but can't seem to find it...
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:25
Night 4
Once again lighting all the candles at the altar of OsiOsi, you begin the night vigil to receive the true nature of the Seirei called Khaan from the all seeing god of the sky. After a few moments of meditation you are inspired as such:
Poetry is for cuckolded men and lonely women.
:stupido: A jerk on poetry
You are a Poet
Background:
The gods gave you the gift of words
To entertain the common turds...
You finish the damn thing, you are the poet are you not? Most usless group of people ever...
Battle Rating:
1 - You have always believed the word was mightier than the sword. Such a sentiment led you to neglect any physical or military training and will obviously hurt you in combat.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
So everyone has been investigated.
You are the only living person who has not been investigated.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:29
He was investigated.
Edit:
I never investigated boudica.
He was investigated.
Edit:
I never investigated boudica.
When and by who?
You've got my full results on boudica in the old QT thread.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-03-2009, 17:34
Khaan claimed a duel rating of 4.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:35
Night 8.
You once again light the candles at the altar and burn the incense, preparing for the night vigil to OsiOsi, seeking the sky god's knowledge. After a few moments, you are inspired as such concerning the true nature of the psycho named Naut:
You shoulda givens me the boozies when I -hic- ahsked ya. Ya know who I am? I'll lets ya into a little shecret.... I'm a DEMON! Yessh -hic- I am, powerful magicsh I wields and so nows whats its -hiccup- gonna be, death or... something?
:stupido: A drunk after you stopped serving him
You are The Generous Brewer
Background:
Wine is an amazing gift from the gods is it not? It makes a man's friends funnier and it makes a man's wife prettier. It makes a man's troubles hard to remember and it makes a man's pain not hurt.
You were always fond of drink ever since your mother passed away and your father gave you swigs of wine instead of hiring a wet nurse.
However, your love for booze went to a whole new level recently. After having been traveling for several weeks, you were waylaid by bandits and robbed clean. With no food and no money, you were easy pickings for the unmerciful sun, and on your way to the nearest city you collapsed from exhaustion.
Most men would have died in that situation but thankfully things were different for you. Pisuf the party god was wandering around and found you dying. He gave you wine and restored your energy and then he gave you his secret to make the most divine wine.
Since that day, to honor the god, you have been brewing wine in the manner he told you and share the blessing with others. This made you very unpopular with the bartenders where you lived as you were ruining their business so they conspired to kill you.
One night on your routine booze drops, four bartenders showed up armed with broken bottles. However, just as they were about to stab you to death, the god Pisuf showed up with a well shaken bottle of wine and sprayed the **** out of your assailants.
After the close call, you decided to leave your city and join one of the voyages to a new settlement, where you may spread drunkenness in peace.
Battle Rating:
1 – Why fight when you can drink together eh?
Abilities:
Serve Drinks: Every night, you brew your special wine and leave it in front of a settler's house or tent. Whatever they are doing that night will have to wait for a night of hitting the sauce.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Public Role:
I am not a cook!
:stupido: A crook
You are a Cook
Background:
The story of you becoming a cook is a long and odd one. It all began when your friends wanted to play a practical joke on you.
They told you of a mysterious place called the food pyramid where witchcraft was practiced. You were sent to infiltrate the food pyramid and gather intelligence for secret missions and other cool stuff you did as kids.
When inside you saw the most horrific occult acts imaginable. The witches inside would perform bizarre rituals where they would sacrifice animals and then skin them, remove their organs, and then chop them up. They would then toss these animals in boiling cauldrons and add intoxicating herbs; obviously some form of incense that pleased the demons the witches served.
It took you a very long time to realize that this witch coven was in fact a training camp where newly married women go. You yourself got a very good domestic education.
However, it seemed that the people in your village were not very open to the idea of a man cooking and you were mocked and ridiculed, which is why you ventured off to start a new life.
Battle Rating:
3 - Though you have no military training, your experiences in the kitchen have made you proficient with knives and given you a keen sense for vital organs.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 17:42
TinCow's boudica result.
As you slip into the tent of the man with the manliest name Boudica, you are overwhelmed with the smell of manure and sod. The tent seems more like a barnyard with dirt and hay everywhere and not much else. Taking a look around you come to the conclusion that this pathetic farmer has a hard enough time taking care of himself to prove any threat to anyone. You seriously doubt he has the intelligence to farm properly, much less be involved in any plots.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 19:45
Yoyoma must die
As such, I vote: Yoyoma
Let us end this game.
Lynching me won't end the game.
vote:'khaan
Lynching me won't end the game.
vote:'khaan
Of course not, lynching Pissuf's last minion will be the last step towards the resurrection of Vode's agents.
seireikhaan
04-03-2009, 19:51
Yoyoma claims that he was he freed
So that he could begin to lead
I believe that he lied this whole time
And that he's still lying, scummy slime
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 20:05
I think anyone who read the writeups would see otherwise.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 20:19
Here are my thoughts:
If there was a conversion it would have happened on night 6.
here is who I have investigated since then:
Night 6: Ichigo
Night 7: Blackadder
Night 8: Psyconaut
Night 9: Seamus Fermanagh
Night 10: Lord Winter
That leads me to believe that the two most likely suspects are 'Khaan and boudica. Also possibly Ichigo. I would like the chance to investigate at least one more, if not two more times.
Theoretically my ability allows me the exact knowledge on a settler... though I don't know for sure if it shows conversions.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve making a request to OsiOsi who will then send you down the exact knowledge on that settler.
If I cannot produce results at that point, feel free to lynch me.
I believe this plan is in the town's interest.
I think anyone who read the writeups would see otherwise.
Ah yes, scold us for not reading the write-ups (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2197066#post2197066).
Sasaki Kojiro
04-03-2009, 20:22
Ah yes, scold us for not reading the write-ups (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2197066&postcount=1835).
Whooosh ~:)
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 20:27
Ah yes, scold us for not reading the write-ups (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2197066&postcount=1835).
I read the writups. I also read pever's post afterwards:
No.
Yes.
Maybe.
I have no idea.
I've skipped about 20 posts. I shall continue to follow this game however.
Who was I? I was a secret role. I had no abilities, save things that may pop up.
I may reveal my role, just no direct quotes, according to the PM from reenk.
I am the village idiot! I ask lots of questions and annoy people a lot. They try to kill me before the god Pisuf takes me away and puts me somewhere else, thus continuing the cycle. This time, Pisuf got his powers taken away by the other gods, so being his chosen one doesnt help anymore (He considered me the greatest human alive)
My battle rating was 1, my victory was outlasting the usurpers.
I was given a cover role, that of a Farmer.
If there are other farmers, when/if they reveal I can verify the PM.
In the PM which Reenk told me I was dead, he said that at least my special ability came into play.
What possible use could there be for any information regarding pevergreen? He died in the very first night of the game and his killer was lynched on the very first day. You honestly expect me to believe you think there's legitimate grounds for dicussing pever at this point in the game? That appears to me like you were making an attempt at looking like you were trying to analyze something without actually putting any thought into it. That's what we call a scum tell.
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 20:41
Whatever man.
We've obviously never had the pleasure of playing with each other before, or you would know that I leave no options closed. Especially in a game like this.
1) Some silly magic rock appears, which records pever's vision.
2) pever says that he was pisuf's chosen, and that "Pisuf takes me away and puts me somewhere else." as well as "In the PM which Reenk told me I was dead, he said that at least my special ability came into play."
What if we have to destroy that rock?
Sasaki Kojiro
04-03-2009, 20:41
yoyo and khaan should be lynched
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 20:46
Ya know.
None of you dead guys are really helping the situation. Even TinCow sounds more bitter than anything.
I've already said I'm down with taking one for the team, but that I'd like to do at least one or two more investigations, to see if something turns up.
What if we have to destroy that rock?
So, you're suggesting we Vote: The Magic Rock?
Yoyoma1910
04-03-2009, 20:50
So, you're suggesting we Vote: The Magic Rock?
If all else fails.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-03-2009, 21:12
Ya know.
None of you dead guys are really helping the situation.
In my defense, I had forgotten that pevergreen had ever played in this game.
not really a defense :sweatdrop:
So, you're suggesting we Vote: The Magic Rock?
Oh noes! Vode's mighty servant has been discovered! We have lost! :laugh4:
Reenk Roink
04-04-2009, 02:35
Just a note, voting will still end at 22:00 Eastern (less than 30 minutes from now) but the write up will come later as I have to go somewhere.
Tally:
Shinseikhaan: 2 (Yoyoma)
Yoyoma: 2 (Shinseikhaan)
Abstain: 1 (boudica)
Askthepizzaguy
04-04-2009, 03:31
I'd contribute more, but I seriously don't want to mess up what could be an excellent game. Plus I am really really lost...
If I could make a suggestion, though, which wouldn't hurt things:
Do a post which contains all the investigation results that have ever been made public all game, include people's duel rating alignment and supposed abilities.
Also, do a post which contains all the "fake roles", regardless of which player had them. Then, lynch everyone who has a role which matches the fake role.
Lord Winter
04-04-2009, 05:43
Isn't Pisuf the god of the arts? So wouldn't it make sense that 'Khan could be a servent of Pisfu, a known scum role? It's not much to go off of, but we don't have anything to go off of for now. Also, he's been too quite so far. Not only is this a potential scum tell, but the lack of information willl create a lot of confusion in, what is sure to be, a very bitter and confusing endgame.
Vote: 'Khan
Askthepizzaguy
04-04-2009, 07:58
Isn't Pisuf the god of the arts? So wouldn't it make sense that 'Khan could be a servent of Pisfu, a known scum role? It's not much to go off of, but we don't have anything to go off of for now. Also, he's been too quite so far. Not only is this a potential scum tell, but the lack of information willl create a lot of confusion in, what is sure to be, a very bitter and confusing endgame.
Vote: 'Khan
That's a VERY interesting theory, especially given how late in the game you came up with it, Lord Winter.
Something doesn't smell right.
Maybe I'm just paranoid.
Vote:Yoyoma
He just gives me a bad feeling.
Lord Winter
04-04-2009, 08:22
That's a VERY interesting theory, especially given how late in the game you came up with it, Lord Winter.
Something doesn't smell right.
Maybe I'm just paranoid.
Sorry, my lurking's not by choice. The only way we can move past cases like this is to do some through analysis through the whole thread looking for anything that we can use. Otherwise, we lynch blindly and depend on luck.
I don't think the last two votes count, as they were past the deadline (Not that it matters, since there would be a tie anyway)
Isn't Pisuf the god of the arts? So wouldn't it make sense that 'Khan could be a servent of Pisfu, a known scum role? It's not much to go off of, but we don't have anything to go off of for now. Also, he's been too quite so far. Not only is this a potential scum tell, but the lack of information willl create a lot of confusion in, what is sure to be, a very bitter and confusing endgame.
Vote: 'Khan
If khaan was a servant of Pisuf from the start of the game, why did he show up as innocent when both LG and Yoyoma investigated him? If you want to allege that he's been converted, that would certainly be possible, but I don't see the logic in him having a role that has always been a servant of Pisuf.
Reenk Roink
04-04-2009, 15:41
:stupido: Day 10
As the day drew to an end, the same accusations were thrown at the priest Yoyoma. However, most of the living were reluctant to vote, so the initiative was taken by a drunken Shinsei named Khaan who fingered Yoyoma. Yoyoma saw nothing to do but to point to finger back.
Thus the vote tally was at an impasse, and when the priest king Reenk Roink was brought this news, he once again proceeded to decide what to do: "We do not have the time for petty bickering in this crucial moment. Therefore, the gods have inspired me to execute both Yoyoma and the Shinsei named Khaan."
With this, the order was given to have both of the doomed parties be tied together. A spear was then hurled at the two noble men impaling both of them.
Reenk Roink said after the dead bodies were dragged away: "It is clear that whatever this last threat is, it has blended in with us flawlessly. Do not be constrained by what you have done before. Pull out all the stops, and end this threat so that the settlement will go on!
Voting Record:
boudica votes abstain
Shinseikhaan votes Yoyoma1910
Yoyoma1910 votes Shinseikhaan
Challenge Record:
none
Vote Tally:
Shinseikhaan - 2 (Yoyoma1910)
Yoyoma1910 - 2 (Shinseikhaan)
abstain - 1 (boudica)
Challenge List:
Alive:
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
boudica
Ichigo
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Andres
TinCow
Jolt
CountArach
Sigurd
Tristan de Castelreng
Yoyoma1910
Shinseikhaan
Fallen in battle:
taka
Captain Blackadder
White_eyes:D
Killed:
TheFlax
pevergreen
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sasaki Kojiro
Beefy187
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
LittleGrizzly
Notes:
Sorry for the tardiness, was just exhausted and couldn't get this up last night.
Sorry Lord Winter and Ichigo, but the voting ended earlier, though considering how late I was maybe I should have counted it. Guess it would make no effect though as it still went to tie.
The game ends when the remaining threat(s) are killed (settler victory) or when the remaining threat(s) vote tally will be equal to or exceed the remaining settler(s).
orders please
Sasaki Kojiro
04-04-2009, 15:44
Well, if we can trust yoyoma's results, doesn't that just leave boudica? I don't remember exactly.
Yoyoma1910
04-04-2009, 15:45
Oh well, good luck and congratulations to whoever wins.
Captain Blackadder
04-04-2009, 15:51
Oh no all the good men are dead.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-04-2009, 15:55
Yes! Good riddance.
Teehee! Two for one! A few more nights and we won! :D
Oh no all the good men are dead.
Truly, the brutes have murdered us all! :O But worry not, as Vode will avenge us *coughmecough*
Oh no all the good men are dead.
Bwahahahahaha :devil:
Askthepizzaguy
04-04-2009, 21:00
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
boudica
Ichigo
Seamus Fermanagh
With one murder (if any) it will be down to 4 players. If the game doesn't end then, you only have one person to worry about; no recruits.
Seamus' role pm was not fake at all, it was the same as mine. If he's the usurper, well played.
Psychonaut is getting everyone drunk, is he not? He's got a real and a fake role, and confirmed too.
Lord Winter had the farmer role, yes? That's a known cover role. Perhaps your investigations aren't getting the usurper's non-fake role? Nevermind I am probably dumb.
Ichigo: Has a laborer role.
boudica: Another farmer role.
Out of these, the one who sticks out the most to me is....
the guilty one.
I'll not be responsible for messing this one up. I'm no hero, I'm running away. Tootles!
Whats been happening then? :juggle2:
Very interesting. Investigations are obviously completely useless. Everyone left has something potentially scummy about them, but none particularly stand out:
Seamus would be a perfect person to 'convert' due to the trust he got from a few people early on, plus he would certainly be able to switch sides without showing his hand.
boudica is similarly skilled and would be a good choice. Her continued activity shows a dedication to the game which might indicate a higher level of interest in the results.
Psychonaut is the only remaining person with a power. That power didn't block CA or Yoyoma, but it did block Jolt. This is a bit odd, particularly his failure to block CA's kill of Sasaki. Perhaps this indicates that his power isn't a normal role block. However, he DID still block Jolt.
Ichigo is a lurker extraordinaire. 7 posts the entire game, the fewest of anyone. He's lynchworthy simply because this is annoying behavior.
Lord Winter is also very lurky. He also happened to defeat White Eyes in a duel. WE and LW were both apparently farmers, but LW had a duel score of 2 to WE's score of 1. Why was that?
If I had to pick a single person at this point, it would probably be boudica. With Yoyoma proven innocent with his death, she remains the only person that Yoyoma did not personally check out. My investigation results are probably more likely to be flawed than his were.
Ichi always complains about being killed early just to mass lurk :dizzy2:
I don't think he'd neglect this game, he knows :wink: probably watching and laughing as all others are killed off.....
Yoyoma1910
04-04-2009, 22:17
Psychonaut is the only remaining person with a power. That power didn't block CA or Yoyoma, but it did block Jolt. This is a bit odd, particularly his failure to block CA's kill of Sasaki. Perhaps this indicates that his power isn't a normal role block. However, he DID still block Jolt.
I believe if you look at the initial post under mechanics you will find the answer:
There will be a punctuality system in place which will handle interleaving orders. It is thus in your best interest to get your orders in fast. ~;)
Very interesting. Investigations are obviously completely useless. Everyone left has something potentially scummy about them, but none particularly stand out:
Seamus would be a perfect person to 'convert' due to the trust he got from a few people early on, plus he would certainly be able to switch sides without showing his hand.
boudica is similarly skilled and would be a good choice. Her continued activity shows a dedication to the game which might indicate a higher level of interest in the results.
Psychonaut is the only remaining person with a power. That power didn't block CA or Yoyoma, but it did block Jolt. This is a bit odd, particularly his failure to block CA's kill of Sasaki. Perhaps this indicates that his power isn't a normal role block. However, he DID still block Jolt.
Ichigo is a lurker extraordinaire. 7 posts the entire game, the fewest of anyone. He's lynchworthy simply because this is annoying behavior.
Lord Winter is also very lurky. He also happened to defeat White Eyes in a duel. WE and LW were both apparently farmers, but LW had a duel score of 2 to WE's score of 1. Why was that?
If I had to pick a single person at this point, it would probably be boudica. With Yoyoma proven innocent with his death, she remains the only person that Yoyoma did not personally check out. My investigation results are probably more likely to be flawed than his were.
I agree that investigation has been redundant for a while now - shame as I didn't think Yoyoma was guilty, but his lack of effectiveness made him suspicious. I was more suspicious of 'Khaan but it appears that was also unfounded. I am now suspicious of everyone left alive. At this point I am looking at how suspicious they are to me:
Seamus would have made a great conversion, I agree, but we are dealing with a Usurper here - an agent of Vode and given that we didn't seem to have any evidence that anyone else who has been lynched was converted - except maybe Andres(??) - I would suspect that the Usurpers could not convert. If that is the case then I would bet on Seamus' innocence given the early Mason reveals etc.
boudica - just to answer your query - I am a farmer with battle rating of 2 - where did it say that White_Eyes:D rating was 1? Can WE confirm? I assumed that the duel was decided randomly.
Psychonaut If Psychonaut is scum then he has played this to perfection. A fake role hiding another fake role? And one that actually works? Maybe this would make up for the fact that he could not make night kills? but I seriously doubt that is the case. That said there is still a Usurper alive so just maybe...
Ichigo has been active recently, but either: 1) Has not bothered really to catch up on the thread and is probably innocent. 2) Is guilty and plans to lurk a little bit further to a victory that I think would leave a bad taste in everyones' mouth. At this point I'd be tempted to vote Ichigo - not because I necessarily think he is guilty - but because I would rather not see a lurker win this - most excellent - game if it turns out he is!
Lord Winter - could be guilty - I really didn't feel the scummy vibe coming off him - We'll see how people vote tomorrow, assuming there are still no more night kills. (If there are I'm going back to the drawing board)
To address TinCows last point about his suspicions of me at this stage - I can only support my innocence by stating that I was on record as being not in favour of lynching Yoyoma and have consistently trusted his guidance and respected his efforts in this game.
I shall try to find time to go through the posts of each player left alive tomorrow morning for any clues - if anyone else has any genius theories then now's the time to throw them in - it feels like most players have lost interest in the fact that there is still a settler lurking - and that by (fulfilling Andres' SK conditions??) and killing the last of the 'Good' Men - they just leaped two steps closer to victory.
Reenk Roink
04-05-2009, 21:08
:stupido:
As the sun rose again, the settlers once again gathered to discuss. The manliest man with the manliest name Boudica required some help as he was very drunk, but the settlers had plenty of time as the priest king Reenk Roink arrived late to tell them to commence with the deliberations. He was comforting the widows of Yoyoma and the Shinsei Khaan.
Challenge List:
Alive:
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
boudica
Ichigo
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Andres
TinCow
Jolt
CountArach
Sigurd
Tristan de Castelreng
Yoyoma1910
Shinseikhaan
Fallen in battle:
taka
Captain Blackadder
White_eyes:D
Killed:
TheFlax
pevergreen
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sasaki Kojiro
Beefy187
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
LittleGrizzly
Day ends Monday, April 6 at 15:00 Eastern
Ichigo has been active recently, but either: 1) Has not bothered really to catch up on the thread and is probably innocent. 2) Is guilty and plans to lurk a little bit further to a victory that I think would leave a bad taste in everyones' mouth. At this point I'd be tempted to vote Ichigo - not because I necessarily think he is guilty - but because I would rather not see a lurker win this - most excellent - game if it turns out he is!
Yeah, I agree with this. I'm honestly out of ideas in this game. We've now had 6 nights in a row without a kill. That in itself is fatiguing and the lack of conversation is turning into a feedback loop. At this point, I don't really care who wins, but it would be a disgrace if it was Ichigo after all that has happened. So, lynch Ichigo and lets get this over with so that whoever is left can get their well-deserved victory.
Askthepizzaguy
04-05-2009, 21:45
Ichigo has nothing preventing him from helping out right now. But even since he "came back" his performance hasn't been up to his usual late-game townie play. He lurks most of the time, or doesn't talk much, but even ichigo contributes more late-game.
Rule 95: Lynch the lurkers.
Lord Winter
04-05-2009, 22:05
Vote: Ighigo
We have the time to get rid of someone who we have no information on. With Ichigo gone, we can have an informed endgame.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-05-2009, 22:09
I say we lynch boudica, then Ichigo.
Lord Winter
04-05-2009, 22:10
Lynch the unknown while we have time. I'd rather leave time for two serious lynches after Ichigo.
Yeah, I agree with this. I'm honestly out of ideas in this game. We've now had 6 nights in a row without a kill. That in itself is fatiguing and the lack of conversation is turning into a feedback loop. At this point, I don't really care who wins, but it would be a disgrace if it was Ichigo after all that has happened. So, lynch Ichigo and lets get this over with so that whoever is left can get their well-deserved victory.
:help:
No offense intended, Ichigo, but you have to admit it would basically be sacrilege to allow someone with a single digit post count to win a game that's approaching the 2k mark.
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 03:39
it would basically be sacrilege to allow someone with a single digit post count to win a game that's approaching the 2k mark.
:laugh4: This will be my new quest :2thumbsup:
No offense intended, Ichigo, but you have to admit it would basically be sacrilege to allow someone with a single digit post count to win a game that's approaching the 2k mark.
True. If I have double digits would that be okay?
True. If I have double digits would that be okay?
Only if you're on my team.
Only if you're on my team.
What team are you on?
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 04:17
What team are you on?
The cult of atheism :sweatdrop:
The cult of atheism :sweatdrop:
:shocked:
True. If I have double digits would that be okay?
I think you need at least triple digits to win this game. And you have to get them within less than 24 hours without spamming.
Good luck :balloon2:
I think you need at least triple digits to win this game. And you have to get them within less than 24 hours without spamming.
Good luck :balloon2:
OH NOES
Vote: boudica
Spent the first few rounds of the game writing little stories, which afaik didn't really say anything important just was for entertainment(?) I guess. After Sasaki said something about it she stopped doing it completely I find that strange. The rest of the posts look to me like nothing cleverly disguised as something, but that's just my opinion.
My second guess would be Psychonaut. It's weird that he could block Jolt but not CA or Yoyoma. What's the point of a roleblocker if he can't really block roles? He hasn't really said a whole bunch, every post I saw was one or two lines.
Lord Winter seems normal to me. Active but not overly so. Seamus would be the best conversion target which has already been said, but I don't see that in this game.
I know it's fairly pointless to try and save myself since I was absent pretty much the entire game and will most likely be lynched for it now, but I at least hope what I've said will be taken into consideration.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 11:10
You sound....desperate.
You sound....desperate.
Really? Strange.
OH NOES
Vote: boudica
Spent the first few rounds of the game writing little stories, which afaik didn't really say anything important just was for entertainment(?) I guess. After Sasaki said something about it she stopped doing it completely I find that strange. The rest of the posts look to me like nothing cleverly disguised as something, but that's just my opinion.
My second guess would be Psychonaut. It's weird that he could block Jolt but not CA or Yoyoma. What's the point of a roleblocker if he can't really block roles? He hasn't really said a whole bunch, every post I saw was one or two lines.
Lord Winter seems normal to me. Active but not overly so. Seamus would be the best conversion target which has already been said, but I don't see that in this game.
I know it's fairly pointless to try and save myself since I was absent pretty much the entire game and will most likely be lynched for it now, but I at least hope what I've said will be taken into consideration.
I think it was established that the role-block didn't work due to the fact that orders were processed chronologically - so Psychonaut must have sent them in late that night.
As far as your comments above regarding me - I was happy to provide some kind of entertainment and go with the role-playing at the start as I really didn't have anything to do other than enjoy the world that Reenk had created. When it was highlighted that my west country (uk) accent was annoying people, I dropped it - also it wasn't contributing particularly to any investigation at that point - the reason for that was that all the Usurpers and other neutral roles were being revealed left right and centre without the assistance of any further investigation as such from town.
I'm certainly happy to take what you have said in to consideration, but would disagree with your assessment of my own analysis. I've been trying to think analytically and I think my analysis of the White_Eyes:D situation was pretty much spot on - other than that we have a mafia who is not killing and basically waiting for town to do a job on itself for him. Forgive me if I feel that your vote against me of self-preservation is foolish, but I think your own analysis is pretty much just a cut and paste for what TinCow and various other suspicious/dead players have already stated.
I don't think you are mafia however. Lord Winter's vote on you without provocation is far more suspicious to me, and so I shall vote: Lord Winter
I'm fairly sure that Seamus & Psychonaut are what they say they are, so even if it ends in a three way tie - then at least towns' work should be finally done.
Ichigo's absence could explain the lack of kills in the previous rounds, allthough I'd be surprised if Reenk wouldn't allow his partners to send in the orders for him.
Completely undecided. Utterly confused. My gut isn't tingling, so I don't want to throw around my vote. :bow:
I can confirm I got my orders in quite late both times I blocked Yoyoma and the time I blocked CA. However, when I blocked Jolt I did so right after the day phase ended.
Ichigo's absence could explain the lack of kills in the previous rounds, allthough I'd be surprised if Reenk wouldn't allow his partners to send in the orders for him.
The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.
The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.
Yes, but I am scum using reverse psychology here. Go ahead, convince the townies to lynch Ichigo :whip:
I promise you won't regret it.
Alternatively, you could also just end the game by lynching Psychonaut and boudica in the next two rounds. Yes, you are facing 2 bad guys and you have to lynch at least one this round to end this game.
But don't listen to me, you probably already know that my true partner in crime is Lord Winter.
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 14:26
The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.
Or, it's someone who was converted by the demon on the one night he existed but didn't do anything obvious to us. This then likely would have changed the person's victory conditions, without necessarily giving them additional abilities.
Or, it's someone who was converted by the demon on the one night he existed but didn't do anything obvious to us. This then likely would have changed the person's victory conditions, without necessarily giving them additional abilities.
Yes, that is a likely scenario as well, probably more-so since you've been proven innocent. Hence my initial focus on boudica, simply because you did not get a result on her. For what its worth, when considering who would have been recruited, I think Ichigo is at the bottom of the list. His total inactivity at that point (somewhere around 3 posts) would have made him completely unattractive to someone who was trying to get a useful ally.
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 17:41
Yes, but I am scum using reverse psychology here. Go ahead, convince the townies to lynch Ichigo. I promise you won't regret it. Alternatively, you could also just end the game by lynching Psychonaut and boudica in the next two rounds. Yes, you are facing 2 bad guys and you have to lynch at least one this round to end this game. But don't listen to me, you probably already know that my true partner in crime is Lord Winter. So, what we do is either not read it, or we read it but don't let it affect our decisions in the slightest. Not for or against anyone. If Andres is a scum, perhaps we shouldn't let him influence us. Though you probably already know this, I just wanted to do a little reminder in case some of the townies forgot... due to this game being so long it warrants its own trilogy. I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?
Bah, don't listen to me I'm dead and by now, I've rotted to basically a skeleton. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of excess weight now I'm all skin and bones.
So, what we do is either not read it, or we read it but don't let it affect our decisions in the slightest. Not for or against anyone. If Andres is a scum, perhaps we shouldn't let him influence us. Though you probably already know this, I just wanted to do a little reminder in case some of the townies forgot... due to this game being so long it warrants its own trilogy. I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?
Bah, don't listen to me I'm dead and by now, I've rotted to basically a skeleton. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of excess weight now I'm all skin and bones.
Well, he is a townie who jsut so happened to murder Good Men. Since all Good Men are dead, if Town wins, he wins as well.
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 18:02
I have a vague recollection that you are also an untrustworthy party. And he's not acting like a townie to me/ but what do I know? My brain has been eaten by worms.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 18:04
I suggest we do whatever Andres says.
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 18:08
Well, since the dead baddies are talking more than the living townies, I suggest we let them win. They seem to want it more than the indecisive townies.
:laugh2:
edit:
To be useful, here is a tally. I double checked it; it sadly appears to be correct.
Ichigo: 1 (Lord Winter
boudica: 1 (Ichigo)
Lord Winter: 1 (boudica)
Abstain: Psychonaut
Seamus appears to be the deciding factor.
I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?
Just because someone is confirmed scum doesn't mean everything they say is wrong. If scum only spouted things that were blatantly false all the time, they would be easy to ignore. That's why a good mafioso says plenty of things that are perfectly sensible on a regular basis. There's no reason to ignore these statements just because they come from a mafioso. It's a relatively simple process to put a mental stamp of "Questionable Motive" on their statements, to give them their proper evidentiary weight.
In any case, I don't think that either Andres or Jolt know the identity of the our surviving scumbag. They're definitely trying to cause confusion, but I suspect they're incapable of totally misleading us simply because they don't know who to lead us away from. Hence their scatter-shot of accusations at pretty much everyone alive.
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 18:15
Okay just checking. I figured you knew what you were doing, but I just had to make sure. Vigilant townie and such, even in death.
I'm going to prod Seamus to see if I can get him to decide this matter.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 18:20
We know Seamus is innocent so why not just let him abstain and Reenk kills all of the above?
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 18:24
That's fine by me. But are we sure it would end in a triple lynch? Besides, we risk allowing the remaining evildoer to change his vote at the last minute and lynch someone good.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 18:29
Vote changer is already last last I checked.
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 18:57
I mean like a regular mafia changing his vote just before the round ends, no special tally-editing ability.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 20:01
Doesn't matter. Whoever changes the tally before the end to vote someone else obviously is afraid of dying and only mafia would be at this stage, exposing them completely. Townie win either way except as I said if Reenk himself is mafia.
To be useful, here is a tally. I double checked it; it sadly appears to be correct.
Seamus appears to be the deciding factor.
He voted abstain in post #1864 :balloon2:
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 20:10
:stupido: Day 11
As the sky dimmed, the priest king Reenk Roink examined the tally and saw an impasse between three settlers. Once again, the decision was to fall to him. Offering a short prayer to all the immortal gods, he begged for their inspiration to lead to a prudent judgment.
When the inspiration came, it strongly advocated the executions of all three settlers with votes. The priest king was extremely hesitant and worried at this cogent recommendation. It was an all or nothing move. The last threat(s) would have to be among the three damned or else the usurpers would have succeeded, and his own life would be at serious risk.
The priest king eventually put his faith in the will of the gods and called for the settlers one by one to be crucified.
The doomed settlers went quietly and solemnly, and this unnerved the priest king immensely. He retreated into his quarters, barred the doors, and began praying incessantly, hoping that it was over yet having a strong feeling that he was over...
Voting Record:
Lord Winter votes Ichigo
Ichigo votes boudica
boudica votes Lord Winter
Psychonaut votes abstain
Challenge Record:
none
Vote Tally:
Ichigo - 1 (Lord Winter)
boudica - 1 (Ichigo)
Lord Winter- 1 (boudica)
abstain- 1 (Psychonaut)
Challenge List:
Alive:
Psychonaut
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Andres
TinCow
Jolt
CountArach
Sigurd
Tristan de Castelreng
Yoyoma1910
Shinseikhaan
Ichigo
boudica
Lord Winter
Fallen in battle:
taka
Captain Blackadder
White_eyes:D
Killed:
TheFlax
pevergreen
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sasaki Kojiro
Beefy187
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
LittleGrizzly
Note: Game is over - final write up coming :bow:
Bleh, well done town. :) me and Andres knew who the other usurper is from the get go. :P
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 20:20
Gah I misread ATPG's tally as saying Psychonaut also had a vote on him :no:
Well, let's hope that he's town and not the mafia's insider who agreed to frame Jolt to make the mafia survive till the end.
[edit]
Ohhh Reenku trying to put up suspense with "that he was over". Tho that he could well be Vode, no? :tongue2:
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 20:40
Yes! Victory for the cult of Kefy!
edit: I told you guys seamus was guilty, but you didn't listen...
Bleh, well done town. :) me and Andres knew who the other usurper is from the get go. :P
Yes! Victory for the cult of Kefy!
edit: I told you guys seamus was guilty, but you didn't listen...
Good to see that even the scum can't agree on what the end is. :laugh4:
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 20:44
Rather Kefy than Vode :tongue2:
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 20:47
Eh.....
poop.
Eh.....
poop.
Don't write it off yet. Jolt appears to think he knew who the person was and that they got lynched. Sasaki is likely just screwing with us because he likes to provide entertainment. Reenk's statement at the end could easily be to get us all uppity about a mafo-victory before revealing it as a town victory.
I'm cautiously optimistic that we've managed to stooge our way to a victory.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 20:54
[backroomish remark]
Aren't you glad you aren't a politician TC? :grin:
Why can't we all just... get along?
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 21:01
Because that would be lame.
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 21:02
:stupido:
In the depths of the night a man slowly limped across the swampy trails surrounded by partially constructed structures of the settlement. He stopped suddenly in a marshy clearing and simply stood there for a few moments waiting for the dark mist to materialize. But the avatar of Vode never came. Peculiar, thought the man, the settlement had been nearly wiped out. Most of the settlers were dead along with their women, slaves, and animals. The Bronze Companions were now but two or three. All the buildings were falling into ruin. There was no food grown and no clothes sewn. Yet apparently Vode still did not wish to strike, or that is what the man thought.
Perhaps the last remaining settler had to be killed. Yes, that was it. Walking to the house of the last settler, the limping man swiftly stabbed the unaware settler with a broken bottle. How fitting a death.
Yet Vode still did not appear. Did the Infiltrator of Vode, who lasted so long when all of his more... direct and noticeable... companions, had fallen have to slay the priest king himself? Vode was certainly a demanding god to serve.
The limping man wondered how he would do it. The priest king was one of the greatest warriors who walked the land while Vode had never given his Infiltrator any physical prowess. At this moment the limping man realized the great gift that Vode had given him. Vode had clouded the eyes of all others in respect to him. The god of wars had shielded himself from any scrying, even that of the sky god himself! The limping man cursed himself for being ungrateful of this great boon the god of foreign peoples had bestowed on him and resolved to use his gifts to slay Reenk Roink. The strike of the priest king was not terrifying if it could not hit its mark.
So the agent of Vode limped into the temple complex and stood outside the quarters of the priest king. It was barred shut, but the agent remained undeterred. He began to loosen an already loose stone block and finally made an entry. Stepping inside he found the priest king with his back turned, kneeling and weeping in prayers. How pathetic. The Infiltrator of Vode pulled out the poisoned dagger of one of his dead compatriots and rose his arm, ready to strike.
"There will be no need for that my servant..."
The agent of Vode stumbled back in disbelief as the priest king Reenk Roink uttered these words. The priest king then began to disintegrate into a fine black mist, and the agent immediately fell prostrate on the floor as he recognized who it was.
"My Lord Vode! I have carried out your task with the powers you bestowed upon me!"
Vode replied: "Yes my servant, you are indeed the best of them all."
The Infiltrator of Vode questioned: "But... if you are Reenk Roink... then why...? Our mission..."
Vode coolly responded: "My servant, you know of my plot to overthrow OsiOsi by causing much bloodshed. Yet that is easy for me, and I would not need such an elaborate plan involving my servants. Rather, this entire usurping business was to test my own agents, to see who would be most worthy to claim the title of Vode's Chosen One."
"The result is quite clear. The most important attribute in war is not sheer power like Ares held, nor is it sorcery and dark magic like Jolt wielded, nor is it the art of stealth that Andres mastered. It is gathering information on your enemies and concealing information from them. That is your domain. You. Seamus Fermanagh. The Chosen of Vode!"
Seamus Fermanagh felt a great deal of satisfaction that moment. He would began his ascent to the top in this world, while his patron would begin his ascent to the top of the pantheon.
usurper victory! (very close and an upset)
Thank you all for playing :bow:
Congrats to the usurpers! :2thumbsup:
Well played to all other parties :yes:
The roles will be posted soon :deal:
Commentary will come in the form of round by round so it is easier for me to write and you to read :book:
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 21:06
Hah. I knew it. Should have voted magic rock.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 21:07
:fainting:
At least I was right about Reenku :2thumbsup:
Thanks for hosting, great game - and great writeups.
Bah! I guess his power was showing up innocent on investigation. Well played, Seamus. You never did anything to tip me off. :bow:
Many thanks, Reenk! It was an excellent game, and the role PMs were the best I've ever seen.
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 21:11
There was a lot concealed to you about how your roles worked. Later tonight I will give all the role messages and the quirks that only I knew.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 21:12
Awesome!
Our defeat was a result of the double and triple lynches. The right plan would have been to lynch all those not investigated, then look for suspects. But activity fell off so much.
Also...how does that townie info group look now? :laugh4:
Hello Sasaki Kojiro, thanks for playing :bow:
Don't die.
:stupido: The best medical advice
You are The Blessing of Kefy
Background:
You were always a pious man, honoring the gods and helping your fellow men. The goddess Kefy was impressed by you and gave you the power to heal.
She did this by two ways. First she gave you some divine wisdom and supernatural powers of restoration. Second she taught you some important things about "normal" medicine.
Your new talents served you well. Word spread about you as some miracle man and you soon received the epithet "The Blessing of Kefy" for not only your healing skill but also your agreeable bedside manner.
You soon were elevated to the local priest king's personal surgeon, and you used the great influence you gained in such a position to make the lives of the people better in all ways. Your motto always was prevention over treatment.
When the priest king died he named you heir instead of his eldest son. However, you declined because you wanted to prevent jealousy and strife, because taking such a position would prevent you from having the time to heal, and because you were too humble.
One day, Kefy came to you in a dream informing you the the agents of the god of war and foreign peoples Vode were going to try and usurp the new settlements that were to be made on the frontier lands.
Without hesitation you left your comfortable position to sail with a group of settlers, that you may ease their suffering in the turbulent time to come.
Battle Rating:
3 – You are not a man of war by any means and have no military training or equipment, but your healing abilities more than easily make up for your lack of strength and it will take quite a bit more effort to put you down as compared to men with similar stature and strength.
Abilities:
Healing: Every night, you may go and visit a settler to see if he is in good health. This will involve going into his tent or house and treating him if he is injured or sick in anyway. With the goddess Kefy working through your hands any miracle is possible.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Public Role:
lol!
:stupido: Other people on hearing that you carry water
You are a Water Carrier
Background:
Why do you do the most humiliating job ever? The work that even slaves laugh at? There are many answers given to questions like these by many different people.
Your mother states you do it because you are the strongest man.
The farmers say you do it in order to piss in the water because you believe your urine has cosmetic benefits for the women who are not renowned for their beauty.
A pious priest says you do it because you are a kind man who likes to do beneficial services for the community.
A theory popular with academics is that you are actually an evil wizard who is putting some kind of dormant poison in the water. You will one day activate that poison which will make the entire settlement fond of nothing but archery. Then you will call in your army of mercenary swordsmen who will invade and a bloody battle will be fought with you eventually prevailing because swordsmen are strong against archers.
Some salute you, some ridicule you, and some warn against you but you go on, bringing water to the settlement every morning.
Battle Rating:
3 – Though you don’t have any military training or equipment, all the water lifting has made you ripped. You are stronger than most warriors. All the taunting has also given you thick skin.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
:wings:
Awesome!
So, were you actually pro-town? That guilty result I got on you was real, and I couldn't find any hint of possible errors when investigating priests in my role PM.
Wow - I yam confused indeed :laugh4:
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 21:19
Curse my not fully seeing eyes.
Hello Yoyoma1910, thanks for playing :bow:
Kid: He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake...
OsiOsi: That Santa Claus is such a ****** charlatan.
:stupido: OsiOsi on Santa Claus
You are The Eye of OsiOsi
Background:
OsiOsi, the sky god, the king of the gods, sees all.
When the peoples were created OsiOsi thought that because they knew he was always watching them, they would be respectful and prudish. This was not so, and the people flagrantly picked their noses and scratched their butts.
The fact that the peoples did not seem to care one bit that OsiOsi was watching them enraged the sky god immensely. This was what led to the first great flood... The descendants of the surviving peoples were just like their ancestors, and this is why the early history of the world is so riddled with floods...
However, it was OsiOsi who learned his lesson before the peoples learned theirs. A distant god watching did not really have much of an effect on human behavior, so instead, he created in humans an innate nosiness.
Now people were much more careful not to pick their noses and scratch their butts unless they were alone. Chalk up another win for OsiOsi.
Your very refined mannerisms have led you to become one of the special elect of OsiOsi, and therefore he grants you his sight and lets you see what he sees.
Battle Rating:
1 – Devoting yourself to the rituals of OsiOsi leaves little time for military training. The strongest man is the one with the strongest faith as you say.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve making a request to OsiOsi who will then send you down the exact knowledge on that settler.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Public Role:
If thou ever feeleth the desire to striketh another, restrain thyself and burneth a pound of meat to OsiOsi. He will allow thee to bed the wife of thee enemy.
:stupido: A priest's sermon
You are a Priest
Background:
There are a two prerequisites for becoming a priest:
1) Being old
2) Being a virgin
After that you can worship the gods all the time instead of just on weekends!
Battle Rating:
1 – Devoting yourself to the rituals of the gods leaves little time for military training. The strongest man is the one with the strongest faith as you say.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Oh, drat. I may have to clock this one up as my worst performance yet. A detective whose only contribution was to kill off the doctor. :wall:
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 21:22
Problem is that Seamus was investigated several times and each time found to be innocent, meaning he was impervious to investigation. As such, he could just play as if he was town without worrying about detective results or being lynched (due to being part of a pro town effort and ATPG's partner)
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 21:23
I imagine you (TinCow) were the one who had to investigate Seamus, since you seemed to detect religious types.
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 21:24
Oh, drat. I may have to clock this one up as my worst performance yet. A detective whose only contribution was to kill off the doctor. :wall:
:laugh4:
I wonder what reenk's explanation for that is...
I have to say, the only thing I had against seamus this game was that I thought a mason was a prime target for a hidden mafia role. That's the kind of thing you love to do as a host. I think I would have advocated his lynch if it had gotten down to 3 left--LW and psychonaut seemed innocent. But that triple lynch...
I discounted seamus as a major suspect on the basis of his response to pizza guy when pizza accused him of not being trustworthy (after I'd implied via pm that seamus was in my cult). Seemed very genuine.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 21:24
Oh, drat. I may have to clock this one up as my worst performance yet. A detective whose only contribution was to kill off the doctor. :wall:
Sig worthy :grin:
LittleGrizzly
04-06-2009, 21:26
Gah! i did mention seamus a few times as a possible suspect... making the comparison with TC's role from midgaard saga II
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 21:27
TinCow had the most... interesting role in terms of game mechanics... :laugh4:
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 21:27
Btw Sasaki, how did your role really work anyway considering that you would make people well who seemed ill when you visit them? I didn't see any ill-making roles.
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 21:29
Seamus is away on vacation btw. Should be back at the 8th. :laugh4:
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 21:30
TinCow had the most... interesting role in terms of game mechanics... :laugh4:
Tell me about it...
Btw Sasaki, how did your role really work anyway considering that you would make people well who seemed ill when you visit them? I didn't see any ill-making roles.
Should a settler be attacked on the night you want t visit him, he will probably not die.
I don't really know the details. I protected GH and yoyoma the two nights I was alive, but nothing happened to them. And then yoyo repaid me by accusing me of being guilty :angry:
Seamus is away on vacation btw. Should be back at the 8th.
Now that is just perfect...
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 21:31
Ah so that's why you came back late when I checked you up.
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 21:32
Seamus is away on vacation btw. Should be back at the 8th. :laugh4:
Lurker victory ftw :laugh4:
Tell me about it...
I'd apologize, but it wouldn't be honest. I got a guilty result, so I worked for your death. Without any knowledge of my own flawed results, it was the right thing to do.
My role PM:
Hello TinCow, thanks for playing :bow:
Superstitious rabble: The gods are true.
You: O RLY?
Superstitious rabble: Our traditional stories show the best way of life.
You: LOL R U SRS?
Superstitious rabble: You are an *******.
You: This is why I have young nobles following me around writing my sayings for wisdom, right?
:stupido: A common day of spreading enlightenment
You are The Psyensil
Background:
Everything is accessible to mankind. Or at least to certain men. Or at least to a certain man. You.
Nobody knows (or cares) where you born or to who, but yet you still write that you are the most important man on the world due to the fact that you have acquired wisdom and thrown of the chains of superstition and ignorance. Now if only the others would see it that way...
You were a pretty normal child growing up, dirty, stinky, and always annoyingly asking Why? Why? Why? The only difference is that you didn't outgrow this habit but rather embraced it in your adulthood and styled it as a method of polemic. With this valuable method, you were able to win any argument.
However, proving others wrong became unsatisfying after a while (not to mention socially isolating and even physically dangerous at times), and you began to turn your method inwards after both your arms were broken by an brothel owner and prostitution apologist who you humiliated after you convincingly argued: "Even if you contend that ******* are ****, then I would contest that this is most certainly a social mistake, as intrinsically this is not so and it is of those things you profess, and so you should not pretend to the contrary when the truth is that ******* ain't ****” (although he claimed that the beating was due to the fact that you did not pay for his venue's services).
With this new attitude of introspection, your most important ideas sprouted. You began to not only criticize existing notions, but promote alternatives to fill their place. Your alternative was that of a worldview that would be based on sound reasoning and empirical evidence. You began to investigate every phenomena (theoretical, natural, social) using your methodology and provide explanations for them within its parameters.
An enlightened paradigm emerged, and it (along with your new found commitment to personal hygiene) began to draw to you a great number of followers, usually young nobles fed up with the traditional restrictions that suffocated their free thinking. Obviously, it also drew the ire from the conservative elements in both the religious and political spheres, where you were charged with blasphemy (as you believed men created the gods rather than vice versa) and promoting rebellion to the old order (as the entire framework on which the priest kings ruled was challenged by you).
You fled from court to court of different priest kings, only to find you quickly overstayed your welcome. You were evicted on many pretenses bastardized from your actual teachings. Especially prevalent were the accusations that you were a foreigner who wanted to erase the memory of the gods to replace them with a new set of foreign gods and that you were a a wicked sorcerer who possessed a deep understanding of nature such that you could use its powers.
So you found yourself having to leave the mainland as the majority of the people were not ready for the enlightenment that you preached. Perhaps a new settlement away from the shackles of the old ways would be a better setting in which the seeds of your teachings could germinate. While you have a lot of money from your generous patrons over the years, some of your poor personal hygiene habits have resurfaced and you are too busy immersed in the vast oceans of thought to look after your personal grooming or dress.
Battle Rating:
4 - Although you are physically weak, you have invented many contraptions which serve to terrify the uneducated masses (although to an enlightened man like yourself they simply exhibit the normal properties of the physical world). You thus have a huge psychological advantage, as people are wary to cross what they perceive as a demon sorcerer.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to get a glimpse of what he is up to beyond the public appearances. You will collect all sorts of empirical observations and then subject them to rigorous analysis to formulate sound conclusions. You are confident that your results will produce solid evidence which you then can take to the town to catch the usurpers, thus solidifying your position in society and paving a way for a general acceptance of your worldview.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Public Role:
For imaginative play and easy cleanup, the broom is the perfect toy!
:stupido: The merchant's slogan that convinced you to buy the broom
You are a Sweeper
Background:
You used to be a down-trodden beggar until the gods smiled upon you one fateful day. A grumpy old man just came up to you and handed you a masterwork suit of armor. It was constructed from the finest materials and so richly adorned that it would be the envy of the greatest kings in the land.
So many potential opportunities opened themselves up for you that day. You could become a great warrior! You could use the suit of armor to buy a great manor with a lot of land and many slaves! You could walk the streets decked out in the armor and have all the ladies of high lineage and low morals flock to you!
All of those scenarios seem to pale with the one that immediately confronted you. A most savory merchant seeing you with the armor, offered you a bargain you could not resist. He pulled out a broom, an object so versatile that it boggled your mind. You could make an entire career with it as a sweeper! You could use it as a weapon! You could use it to make a scarecrow! That was just the tip of the iceberg too, the possibilities of what you could do with the broom were endless, so you quickly made the trade.
When you heard about the expedition to new lands to found new settlements, you saw a great opportunity for adventure with your broom! Brand new streets to sweep and a lot of time to think...
Battle Rating:
1 - You have never had any military training and the only weapon you have is your broom. You may place a great deal of confidence in it but a fact's a fact: you are an easy pushover in a fight.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
My custom-made fake that I had to toss out after CA and Yoyoma both found out exactly who I was by Night 2:
Hello TinCow, thanks for playing :bow:
The Mobb: Conform!
You: Eh?
The Mobb: Everyone must be the same!
You: I'm a special snowflake!
The Mobb: You are an *******. Get the thumbscrews!
You: Leave me alone.
:stupido: An ordinary day being unordinary
You are The Solitarian
Background:
No man is an island. Except you.
You were a pretty normal child growing up, dirty, stinky, and always annoyingly independent. When other children wanted to play outside, you wanted to play inside. They laughed at you and called you names. They made a game out of poking you in the ear with a stick. In your adulthood you grew into a loner who was happy being by himself. With all your spare time, you began to build bizarre and wondrous machines. They were your friends and they never poked you in the ear.
However, others did not like your behavior. They did not understand your social isolation and creation of strange bit of moving metal. Pitchfork and torch sales increased over time, and eventually you were forced to pack up your iron friends and seek out a new kingdom in which to live in blissful isolation. But no matter where you went, you remained an outcast. Sometimes people blamed you for a plague that ravaged their farms. Other times priest kings ravaged the peoples farms and blamed you for it (which was really rather silly, since they all saw Bitwit IV do it himself).
You fled from kingdom to kingdom, only to find the popular crowd quickly finding an excuse to scapegoat you for something. Many pretenses were used especially those focused on your machines. Especially prevalent were the accusations that you were a warlock who wanted to create a metal army to abduct all of the girls from the village or that you were a witch dressed up like a warlock who wanted to create a metal army to abduct all the girls from the village.
So you found yourself having to leave the mainland as the majority of the people were mean and just wouldn't leave you alone. Perhaps a new settlement away from everyone else would be a better setting in which you could live in peace and build the only true friends you had ever known. Due to your disregard for societal conversions, some of your poor personal hygiene habits have resurfaced and you are too busy working metal and creating gears to look after your personal grooming or dress.
Battle Rating:
4 - Although you are physically weak, you have invented many contraptions which serve to terrify the conformist masses. You thus have a huge psychological advantage, as people are wary to cross what they perceive as a demon sorcerer.
Abilities:
Scavenging: Every night period, you must attempt to steal supplies from one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to get your grubby hands on some of his stuff. You are a talented inventor and can build your friends out of nearly anything, but sticks and dirt are not enough. You need the things that are produced by industry to make your friends come to life.
Victory Conditions:
Survive until the end of the game
Yoyoma1910
04-06-2009, 21:38
I don't really know the details. I protected GH and yoyoma the two nights I was alive, but nothing happened to them. And then yoyo repaid me by accusing me of being guilty :angry:
Oh... was that you? How was I to know?
As you begin to make preparations for your night vigil to receive divine knowledge concerning the true nature of the man named TinCow from the all seeing sky god, you hear a knock on your door. A man dressed head to toe in very bright white robes quickly advises you to make sure you sleep at least eight hours a night and takes his leave.
Ignoring his advice in order to receive knowledge, you begin the night vigil and are soon inspired:
Superstitious rabble: The gods are true.
You: O RLY?
Superstitious rabble: Our traditional stories show the best way of life.
You: LOL R U SRS?
Superstitious rabble: You are an *******.
You: This is why I have young nobles following me around writing my sayings for wisdom, right?
:stupido: A common day of spreading enlightenment
You are The Psyensil
Background:
Everything is accessible to mankind. Or at least to certain men. Or at least to a certain man. You.
Nobody knows (or cares) where you born or to who, but yet you still write that you are the most important man on the world due to the fact that you have acquired wisdom and thrown of the chains of superstition and ignorance. Now if only the others would see it that way...
You were a pretty normal child growing up, dirty, stinky, and always annoyingly asking Why? Why? Why? The only difference is that you didn't outgrow this habit but rather embraced it in your adulthood and styled it as a method of polemic. With this valuable method, you were able to win any argument.
However, proving others wrong became unsatisfying after a while (not to mention socially isolating and even physically dangerous at times), and you began to turn your method inwards after both your arms were broken by an brothel owner and prostitution apologist who you humiliated after you convincingly argued: "Even if you contend that ******* are ****, then I would contest that this is most certainly a social mistake, as intrinsically this is not so and it is of those things you profess, and so you should not pretend to the contrary when the truth is that ******* ain't ****” (although he claimed that the beating was due to the fact that you did not pay for his venue's services).
With this new attitude of introspection, your most important ideas sprouted. You began to not only criticize existing notions, but promote alternatives to fill their place. Your alternative was that of a worldview that would be based on sound reasoning and empirical evidence. You began to investigate every phenomena (theoretical, natural, social) using your methodology and provide explanations for them within its parameters.
An enlightened paradigm emerged, and it (along with your new found commitment to personal hygiene) began to draw to you a great number of followers, usually young nobles fed up with the traditional restrictions that suffocated their free thinking. Obviously, it also drew the ire from the conservative elements in both the religious and political spheres, where you were charged with blasphemy (as you believed men created the gods rather than vice versa) and promoting rebellion to the old order (as the entire framework on which the priest kings ruled was challenged by you).
You fled from court to court of different priest kings, only to find you quickly overstayed your welcome. You were evicted on many pretenses bastardized from your actual teachings. Especially prevalent were the accusations that you were a foreigner who wanted to erase the memory of the gods to replace them with a new set of foreign gods and that you were a a wicked sorcerer who possessed a deep understanding of nature such that you could use its powers.
So you found yourself having to leave the mainland as the majority of the people were not ready for the enlightenment that you preached. Perhaps a new settlement away from the shackles of the old ways would be a better setting in which the seeds of your teachings could germinate. While you have a lot of money from your generous patrons over the years, some of your poor personal hygiene habits have resurfaced and you are too busy immersed in the vast oceans of thought to look after your personal grooming or dress.
Battle Rating:
4 - Although you are physically weak, you have invented many contraptions which serve to terrify the uneducated masses (although to an enlightened man like yourself they simply exhibit the normal properties of the physical world). You thus have a huge psychological advantage, as people are wary to cross what they perceive as a demon sorcerer.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to get a glimpse of what he is up to beyond the public appearances. You will collect all sorts of empirical observations and then subject them to rigorous analysis to formulate sound conclusions. You are confident that your results will produce solid evidence which you then can take to the town to catch the usurpers, thus solidifying your position in society and paving a way for a general acceptance of your worldview.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Public Role:
For imaginative play and easy cleanup, the broom is the perfect toy!
:stupido: The merchant's slogan that convinced you to buy the broom
You are a Sweeper
Background:
You used to be a down-trodden beggar until the gods smiled upon you one fateful day. A grumpy old man just came up to you and handed you a masterwork suit of armor. It was constructed from the finest materials and so richly adorned that it would be the envy of the greatest kings in the land.
So many potential opportunities opened themselves up for you that day. You could become a great warrior! You could use the suit of armor to buy a great manor with a lot of land and many slaves! You could walk the streets decked out in the armor and have all the ladies of high lineage and low morals flock to you!
All of those scenarios seem to pale with the one that immediately confronted you. A most savory merchant seeing you with the armor, offered you a bargain you could not resist. He pulled out a broom, an object so versatile that it boggled your mind. You could make an entire career with it as a sweeper! You could use it as a weapon! You could use it to make a scarecrow! That was just the tip of the iceberg too, the possibilities of what you could do with the broom were endless, so you quickly made the trade.
When you heard about the expedition to new lands to found new settlements, you saw a great opportunity for adventure with your broom! Brand new streets to sweep and a lot of time to think...
Battle Rating:
1 - You have never had any military training and the only weapon you have is your broom. You may place a great deal of confidence in it but a fact's a fact: you are an easy pushover in a fight.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
After praising OsiOsi grateful for the knowledge, you are about to doze off when you hear more knocking at your door. Opening it again, you find only a golden staff. Grasping it, you feel a surge of divine power rush through your blood.
Note: Your battle rating has increased by one (it is now 2).
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 21:43
So, were you actually pro-town? That guilty result I got on you was real, and I couldn't find any hint of possible errors when investigating priests in my role PM.
Ah, given reenk's philosophical views it makes sense that you would get a guilty on me. You might have taken this to be an almost guarantee that your results weren't completely accurate:
You will collect all sorts of empirical observations and then subject them to rigorous analysis to formulate sound conclusions. You are confident that your results will produce solid evidence which you then can take to the town to catch the usurpers, thus solidifying your position in society and paving a way for a general acceptance of your worldview.
I'd apologize, but it wouldn't be honest. I got a guilty result, so I worked for your death. Without any knowledge of my own flawed results, it was the right thing to do.
No worries, I claimed to be a cultist for most of the game anyway :bounce:
A man dressed head to toe in very bright white robes quickly advises you to make sure you sleep at least eight hours a night and takes his leave.
Hahahaha!
Ah, given reenk's philosophical views it makes sense that you would get a guilty on me. You might have taken this to be an almost guarantee that your results weren't completely accurate:
I don't know anything about Reenk's philosophical views. I thought seriously about whether my results would be flawed, but it did say "solid evidence" and I had no side victory conditions. In any case, I had no way to differentiate between 'real' guilty results and 'false' guilty results. It's a good thing that Yoyoma investigated me quickly. I probably would have gotten a guilty result on him as well.
Link to our short-lived QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/KLRjQ8UkNupp
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 22:00
Until all roles are posted with all intricacies revealed, pay close attention to the color of your role name. :wink:
Sasaki Kojiro
04-06-2009, 22:09
hmm, yoyoma and I are light blue...the priest role is purple...regular townies are olive...faction heir was orange...don't remember the others.
-edit-
TinCow green. Psychonaut green. LittleGrizzly light blue.
Cracked the code, if your color was light blue it meant you were awesome.
Purple==good man
olive--regular man
light blue--pure pro town (awesome guys)
red==vode
green==???
Orange==sort of bad
Reenk Roink
04-06-2009, 22:26
purple: good men (normal settler)
olive: men (normal settler)
cyan: loyalist (pro town roles)
lime: idiosyncratic (self motivated story that falls in line with town goals – “pro town lite”)
dark orange: nefarious (self motivated story that is in opposition to town goals though non usurper)
red: usurper (mafia)
FactionHeir
04-06-2009, 22:56
I'm bad except I could semi-investigate and was on the town's side, though had to eliminate a townie to win? :grin:
seireikhaan
04-06-2009, 23:05
'Tis most a pity that such misfortune should befall us.
Yet, I must, at the least offer my congrats to Seamus.
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:laugh4: Well done town. :) Thank you.
Askthepizzaguy
04-06-2009, 23:33
Well, at least I accused and suspected Seamus early on. :shrug:
What else is a dead guy to do when the investigators can't detect him?
Congratulations, Seamus; I hope all my effort as your "mason" partner came in handy.
Excellent game, Grats to seamus! and thanks Reenk for hosting! just missed the 2k mark though
we now know what to do - lurk the end! :laugh4:
Lord Winter
04-07-2009, 03:50
Shame that your game had to end in such an anti-climatic way. Otherwise excellent game, probably one of the best in the immersion factor/writeups that I have played. I hope you host another one.
Captain Blackadder
04-07-2009, 07:23
Good game by all. Reenk is there any reason why I had a role that was used as a fake one by quite a few people?
Beefy187
04-07-2009, 07:33
Can't say much. I was killed too early :juggle2:
I still had fun in the pre game so that makes it up.
Thank you for hosting Reenk :bow:
Good game fellows
Hahahahaha!
I must say, town really made this one hard for us. We were in a very bad position having lost 3 team members and the ability to night kill so early in the game; I never thought we were going to make it, but good ol' Seamus pulled it off.
Congrats, Seamus :bow:
And a respectful nod to the town, you guys really made us sweat :bow:
Real role pm + real cover pm:
Hello Andres, thanks for playing :bow:
Andres flees... to rule from afar!
:stupido: You
You are Vode's Dagger
Background:
You just were a thief. A good one, but just a thief. Then these weird but scary men recruited you with promises of power and wealth beyond your wildest imagination.
You pretended to agree while adeptly pickpocketing the one wearing the high highfalutin robes (the burly man with the scary face was too intimidating) and you nearly got away with it, but you swear some invisible force started telling him about what you were doing.
The burly man was about to cleave you in half but the robed man stopped him and smiled at you. He said you had proven your worth to be part of their plans. He then produced for you a large bag of gold from thin air, telling you that it was just the tip of the iceberg for what plans they had.
Could there be any better friends and colleagues?
Battle Rating:
4 - You are a weak small fan who nevertheless is very dangerous in a fight due your speed and stealth abilities. Larger, stronger, and better trained men would do well to watch out for your
Abilities:
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. This involves entering his tent or house and stabbing him to death. You are much better at escaping with your own life if you fail to take your target than most.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the settlers (usurper victory)
Public Role:
Much of the information contained in this message is not necessarily true and not available in all locations and valid for a limited time only.
:stupido: Terms and conditions
You are a Merchant
Background:
You have made your living by selling your products to other people who either do not need them or would be better off buying other products.
However, life for a merchant is tough in the big city with all the competition, which leads to drama, then politics, then violence. Because of this you got together with a few of your merchant acquaintances to decide what to do next.
Common sense eventually dictated that you all go find new settlements to live in. This way there would be less competition leading to more demand leading to more profit. You all agreed to follow this plan; all but one.
One among you decided instead to write a book about this plan and submit it to the local priest king. The priest king was so impressed by this plan’s applicability that he elevated the author to the chief administrative office and declared that he had invented a new science called Economics.
Somewhat jealous at your acquaintance’s newfound success, you nevertheless are optimistic at testing the unsaturated markets of the new settlements.
Battle Rating:
1 – Not only do you have no military training no equipment, but you have not done much in the way of physical exertion and are as soft as the silk sheet you sell. Good thing your trade requires you to convince people, because the only way you’ll come out alive from a fight is by having the other guy not fight you.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
CountArach
04-07-2009, 08:58
Brilliant game! Brilliant game!
I have half a write up done (Covering up to the point I converted Yoyoma) and I'll post that after Reenk so that you can get another perspective... mainly on stuff done behind the scenes.
In the meantime here is my full (And real) role PM:
Hello CountArach, thanks for playing :bow:
I shared a bottle of wine with him once and woke up with a terrible pain in my loins...
:stupido: Kefy the goddess of the earth on you
You are Pisuf
Background:
The god of the arts, you are the patron of the things which some misguided fools, both divine and mortal, call low. You inspire man to create the most exquisite works of pornographic poetry and pottery from his deepest and most basic instincts.
You are a free spirit and some call you a troublemaker, including that hard*** OsiOsi, lord of the sky and king of the gods. He didn't give a damn when you bedded his wife Remi along with three mortal woman in his chambers. Yet when you farted during the assembly and then blamed it on him he banished you from the Divine Forest and forced you into a mortal form...
As you walked among the mortals you made your presence felt in many ways. You were the one who started the great Civil War by first going to each different priest king and making many interleaving treaties. Then you triggered the war by disguising yourself as one priest king and sleeping with another’s wife. You singlehandedly ended years of famine in one city by introducing a thousand talents of gold into the economy and you brought the end of another city by stealing the money from them. You rounded up all the disenfranchised people in a city and had them overthrow the priest king only to personally lead an army to reinstate the priest king when the new rulers become corrupt with power.
Your actions have been labeled as many things by the mortals, but you are a god, far above the standards of men, and so it bothers you little that you have been accused of indulgent caprice.
OsiOsi has given you a redemption quest which you have ignored for far too long. You are to find and kill an impious man who dishonors the gods. He is called The Psyensil and OsiOsi gave word that he was heading with a group to found a new settlement. You have jumped along with this group. Given the situation, your mission taking a backseat to the opportunities for fun you will have.
Battle Rating:
10 - Although your status as an god has been stripped from you, you still are the most powerful mortal being on the world. Standing over nine feet tall in this mortal form, you are more fearsome in war than the greatest heroes of legend ever were. Your knowledge far surpasses the greatest sages of this world and you have an incredible command of magic. You will indeed seem like a god to these mortals.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve making a request to OsiOsi who will then send you down the exact knowledge on that settler.
Resistances: Due to your unique status, you will be unaffected in many ways from the world around you. However, you do not know the limits of your resistances and they may change depending on the path you choose.
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. You will have many methods at your disposal to perform this deed
Note: You may only perform one action each night (you cannot both investigate and kill on the same night).
Victory Conditions:
Your victory conditions depend wholly on what course you decide to follow. You can ally yourself with the settlers or you can ally yourself with the usurpers or you can give aid to neither and go your own way. However, a necessary condition for your victory regardless of which course you undertake is that you must outlast The Psyensil.
Note: Send me your choice at any point during the game while you are still alive. You cannot change your choice.
Public Role:
Can I get it with chicken?
:stupido: A customer when buying a bowl
You are a Potter
Background:
Why did you become a potter? You often think about this question when your mind is idle on the wheel.
The most widely held theory is that you are descended from a tribe which incorporated pottery into a central position of their hunting rituals. Your tribe believed that if the hunter cannot see the prey then the prey cannot see the hunter and so one man of the tribe ingeniously instructed the hunters to put clay bowls over their heads so as to increase productivity during a famine.
Other theories have recently been advanced, more based on actual reality, such as the theory that you have inherited your profession supported by the fact that your father and your father’s father were potters, but so far these have not gained popularity from academics or the general public at large.
Whatever the reason, every new settlement needs a potter to make sure that the history and culture of a people is remembered when the potsherds are dug up thousands of years later (as well as the less important reason for providing vessels for various uses).
Battle Rating:
1 - You continue the traditions of your tribe by putting a pot over your head when you go into battle. Unfortunately, baked clay is not that effective at protecting against blows and also a pot over the eyes impedes vision.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
And the addendum...
OsiOsi is pleased that you will not take sides in the conflicts of mortals. He will thus be more lenient with you. Before this, were you to fail in your mission and expose yourself to death, the sky god would have whisked you away from earth and imprison you in the darkest reaches of the Divine Forest. Now, he is willing to give you a second chance to accomplish your mission.
Abilities:
Note: You keep your existing abilities. These are just additions and updates.
Conversion: One night period, you may attempt to convert a settler to follow you cult alone. This will abrogate any existing victory conditions he has and he will share your victory conditions. He will keep whatever abilities and battle ratings he had prior to his conversion. This ability can only be used once.
Note: The Psyensil cannot be converted.
Resistances: Should you get lynched, you will continue on in the game unaffected. However, this ability is used up after one lynch and should you be lynched again, it will be the normal case.
Note: You may only perform one action each night (you either convert, investigate, or kill on each night).
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the Psyensil
Outlast the settlers
Outlast the usurpers
Captain Blackadder
04-07-2009, 09:54
Again this was my pm
Hello Captain Blackadder, thanks for playing :bow:
If thou ever feeleth the desire to striketh another, restrain thyself and burneth a pound of meat to OsiOsi. He will allow thee to bed the wife of thee enemy.
:stupido: A priest's sermon
You are a Priest
Background:
There are a two prerequisites for becoming a priest:
1) Being old
2) Being a virgin
After that you can worship the gods all the time instead of just on weekends!
Battle Rating:
1 – Devoting yourself to the rituals of the gods leaves little time for military training. The strongest man is the one with the strongest faith as you say.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
_Tristan_
04-07-2009, 11:03
My role PM with its ability... which I put to good use only to rid us of one of the most powerful pro-townie role...:oops:
Hello Tristan de Castelreng, thanks for playing :bow:
Quote:
Look at these peasants at the gate, shouting for bread and burning things. So matter of fact and straight to business. I somewhat like that. No...no, "like" is the wrong word choice. "Hate" is more the feeling I was trying to capture in that phrase...
:stupido: You on the masses
You are The Oligarch
Background:
Oh how you loathe the insufferable domestics of society! Now the brazen horde wants to participate in political and social life...
Your distaste for the lower classes goes far back. You were a young man, and in love with the most wonderful girl. She had it all: noble lineage, loads of money, good looks...
You were going to pull all your charms on this noble lady at a ball, and made the most careful preparations. Yet this meticulous plan was undone by the ineptitude of the common rabble.
You see, you had pulled out your trump card, a most exquisite pair of trousers, which would no doubt attract your prospective mate. You left very careful instructions with the tailor to put an extra two pleats on the codpiece, which would be the key to your love's heart.
Of course, the ignorant fool did such shoddy work and ruined your entire love life. Such a wait for service too! Enraged, not only did you withhold the tip, but you devoted your life to keeping the common settlers in their place, and sparing the nobles from their evil and stupidity.
You must save the settlement from the settlers!
Battle Rating:
3 – Your life has been one of comfort and privilege, but the job of keeping the unwashed masses in place has forced you take the initiative and undergo military training.
Abilities:
Vote Tampering: Every day, before voting ends, you may tamper with the vote count, adding one tally to a settler of your choice and removing one tally from a settler of your choice.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Public Role:
Quote:
I have found myself kneeling before quite a number of prominent priest kings and their pants were down sometimes.
:stupido: You on life as a courtier
You are a Bureaucrat
Background:
Looking around at your society you cannot help but feel pleased at the integral job your play in its administration. You perform a wide variety of crucial tasks for the priest king such as deciding on the pattern of his royal seal, matching the furniture with the drapes in the temple complex and planning the potlucks.
It is clear that the people of your station is what makes the settlements run, which is why the animosity from the lesser peoples is so startling.
By the gods, you are a class of benevolent land owners and yet you are discriminated against because of your God given birthright!
Battle Rating:
1 - Living a most pampered and sheltered life has kept you away from military training or any sort of physical exertion whatsoever. Your high quality arms and armor will only be of so much use to one who knows nothing of fighting.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Askthepizzaguy
04-07-2009, 11:39
If it makes anyone feel better, there is a group out there dedicated to healing their wounds and attempting (failing miserably) to wash away the stink of townie failure. Here is our meeting place (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2200614#post2200614), and here is our TOP-SECRET HIDEOUT (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/group.php?groupid=76).
-we make the shame go away. Or no, wait... the opposite of that. We make it stay, and we embrace it.
~:grouphug:
My role PM with its ability... which I put to good use only to rid us of one of the most powerful pro-townie role...:oops:
That was my fault, not yours. I was intentionally trying to get a few votes on me each round so that the mafia would leave me alive at night. I was carefully watching the vote count on me to make sure I never went over into an actual lynch, but I cut it too close. I can't remember how I knew that there was a vote switcher out there, but I was aware of it and yet it simply didn't occur to me that it might be used against me. That was my error alone, since I was intentionally drawing votes. That was actually the main reason I think this was my worst performance; my lynching was my own fault and I could have easily avoided it if I had been more careful.
That said, I was also just happy to have a legitimate excuse to act differently from my previous games. I've gotten a bit bored with the whole constant analysis bit. I find it useful at times, but it's tiring to be expected to do it all the time. This was the perfect opportunity to make a break from that and act a little more amorphous, while still benefiting myself. I had a lot more fun with my posting style in this game, so I'll probably continue to edge towards that in the future.
That said, I was also just happy to have a legitimate excuse to act differently from my previous games. I've gotten a bit bored with the whole constant analysis bit. I find it useful at times, but it's tiring to be expected to do it all the time. This was the perfect opportunity to make a break from that and act a little more amorphous, while still benefiting myself. I had a lot more fun with my posting style in this game, so I'll probably continue to edge towards that in the future.
Do you think it was the fine setting that Reenk created that made this easier? I realise that not everyone is into roleplay but, for me, it makes the difference between a good game and a great game. I shall mention it again I'm sure, but I can't thank Reenk enough for the excellent and entertaining writing (especially the role PMs) which I have found most inspiring :2thumbsup:
Do you think it was the fine setting that Reenk created that made this easier? I realise that not everyone is into roleplay but, for me, it makes the difference between a good game and a great game. I shall mention it again I'm sure, but I can't thank Reenk enough for the excellent and entertaining writing (especially the role PMs) which I have found most inspiring :2thumbsup:
Ironically, I never really tried to roleplay. Any similarities between my posting style and my role should probably be clocked up to actual parallels between who I am in real life and the description of the 'Psyensil.' I did greatly enjoy both your and khaan's efforts to RP though. I've been known to use poetry (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1784919&postcount=15) as humor before, so I had a lot of fun arguing in that style.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-07-2009, 14:17
Seamus is away on vacation btw. Should be back at the 8th. :laugh4:
Just got to reading this thread this morning while the kiddies slept in. Can't say as I expected it to finish this way....:laugh4:
:laugh4:
Nice job there Seamus, Andres, Jolt etc... you know who you are. :2thumbsup:
And :wall: to not seeing that two Masons was suspicious. Two Masons? A mason group is only really effective with 3 or more members.
I guess I could blame RL ... well not really. I still have my faculties and I was played like the rest of them.
GeneralHankerchief
04-07-2009, 15:08
Great game to all that played, and a well-earned victory for Seamus. Guess you finally survived to the end. :laugh4:
I admit that this game overwhelmed me at times. Being not much of a Mafia RP'er and combined with the fact that my role was destined to not have much of an impact on the greater scope of things, I quickly got left behind. I'm at least glad that I was able to contribute to the lynch of Andres, and that the rest of you had such a good time. A very well-hosted, intricate game Reenk. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
04-07-2009, 15:11
I thought you broke new ground with the very detailed, eloquent, colorful, and consistent Role PMs Reenk.
I applaud your efforts hosting this one. Well done on all counts.
Reenk Roink
04-07-2009, 16:06
:stupido:
The priest king Reenk Roink woke up in the middle of the night sweating. It was just a horrible dream. Washing his face, he went to his window and stared out at the now desolate settlement. A feeling of great sadness came over him.
Shuffling his feet towards the altar, he began to hold a night vigil, asking the gods to reveal whether the threat was finished. Expecting the same negative answer he had received for the past eleven nights, the priest king was astonished when he received the good tidings from OsiOsi that the last servant of Vode was slain in the mass crucifixion. It was the manliest man with the manliest name Boudica!
The priest king ran out of his temple complex in euphoria and woke up the shepherd Seamus Fermanagh and the cook and generous brewer and psycho named Naut to give them the news. Though it was just them, and a few women and slaves remaining, now the settlement could move on. New settlers would undoubtedly come and prosper under the priest king Reenk Roink...
settler victory! (seriously :laugh4:)
purple: good men (normal settler)
olive: men (normal settler)
green: divine (pisuf...)
cyan: loyalist (pro town roles)
lime: idiosyncratic (self motivated story that falls in line with town goals – “pro town lite”)
dark orange: nefarious (self motivated story that is in opposition to town goals though non usurper)
red: usurper (mafia)
GeneralHankerchief - Bureaucrat
Sasaki Kojiro - The Blessing of Kefy [Water Carrier]
taka - Iffo the Fallen/Risen [Merchant]
White_eyes:D - Farmer
seireikhaan - Poet
Lord Winter - Farmer
Captain Blackadder - Priest
Gaius Scribonius Curio - Scribe
Beefy187 - Tax Collector [Bureaucrat]
TheFlax - Scribe
Psychonaut - The Generous Brewer [Cook]
CountArach - Pisuf [Potter]
FactionHeir - The Last Thief of Carn [Farmer]
Andres - Vode's Dagger [Merchant]
boudica - Vode's Eyes [Farmer]
Jolt - Vode's Wand [Priest]
TinCow - The Psyensil [Sweeper]
Ichigo - Laborer
Yoyoma1910 - The Eye of OsiOsi [Priest]
Tristan de Castelreng - The Oligarch [Bureaucrat]
pevergreen - The Village Idiot [Farmer]
Sigurd - Merchant
shlin28 - Soldier
777Ares777 - Vode's Sword [Laborer]
Askthepizzaguy - Shepherd
LittleGrizzly - The Watcher [Beggar]
Seamus Fermanagh - Shepherd
seireikhaan
04-07-2009, 16:08
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Ok, guys, this is getting a tad ridiculous....
Well done town. :bow:
Linky to our connection with the mighty Vode.
http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/tNeBzMRCS8nQ
Good game. :)
Yoyoma1910
04-07-2009, 16:16
:soapbox:
No! I refuse to accept that we are victorious!!!! There's still a magic rock that must be destroyed!
:clown:
Reenk, you have mighty large testes to do that after posting this in Inishmore:
:wall:
This all stems from GH's terrible tradition.
:inquisitive:
Reenk Roink
04-07-2009, 16:20
The Roles
Note: Some of the roles have been cleaned up (typos and formatting errors and the like) and so may be slightly different from the ones sent out.
men basic roles:
1 beggar (0)
You: Spare some change sir?
Nobleman: Away with you beggar!
You: May the gods bless you!
You: Spare some change sir?
Another Nobleman: Well there, don't you just add to the local color? Quite the smashing bit of dress you wear there. I'll have to look into such an outfit when I next attend one of aunties' full dress costume affairs. I'll be the talk of the party!
You: May the gods bless you!
:stupido: A common day of begging
You are a Beggar
Background:
Things could have been better you guess. Your father died before you were born and your mother died during your delivery. At least that's what the ladies at the orphanage used to tell you as they chained you up for the night. It's not as if you minded being locked in a dark room every day; it's just that the rats had the superior numbers and usually took the gruel that was left for you.
Boy those were the good old days. After leaving the orphanage you went on the streets. You found that trading blessings for food or money doesn't really work well, but what the hell, you gave out a lot of free samples!
You left the city to go sailing for new lands. They said people were getting paid to make the journey to a new settlement. You didn't get paid anything but hey, there's a better chance of catching a fish on the sea than on the dirt roads. Unless, of course, you're near a fish market; what a banquet!.
Boy are those slaves lucky, gods bless them.
Battle Rating:
0 - They say a hard life hardens a man. Well they obviously haven't had a life as hard as yours. Constant lack of food has left you weaker than a baby. Constant lack of clean water has left you stricken with disease. Constant lack of shelter has taken a huge toll on your body. You have a hard enough time going through the act of eating much less fighting.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
1 cook (2)
I am not a cook!
:stupido: A crook
You are a Cook
Background:
The story of you becoming a cook is a long and odd one. It all began when your friends wanted to play a practical joke on you.
They told you of a mysterious place called the food pyramid where witchcraft was practiced. You were sent to infiltrate the food pyramid and gather intelligence for secret missions and other cool stuff you did as kids.
When inside you saw the most horrific occult acts imaginable. The witches of the food pyramid would perform bizarre rituals where they would sacrifice animals and then skin them, remove their organs, and then chop them up. They would then toss these remains in boiling cauldrons and add intoxicating herbs to the mix; obviously some form of incense that pleased the demons that the witches served.
It took you a very long time to realize that this witch coven was in fact a training camp where newly married women went. You yourself got a very good domestic education.
However, it seemed that the people in your village were not very open to the idea of a man cooking and you were mocked and ridiculed, which is why you ventured off to start a new life.
Battle Rating:
3 - Though you have no military training, your experiences in the kitchen have made you proficient with knives and given you a keen sense for vital organs.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
6 farmer (2)
Farming is the eternal war continuously being waged by mankind against the relentlessly invading hordes of the evil plant kingdom.
:stupido: Definition of farming
You are a Farmer
Background:
In the beginning the gods/mods decided to create a game. A mortal multiplayer on-earth role playing game called Life. So they created the Earth. Then they created the factions that would inhabit the Earth. On the one hand there were the plants, a faction of seemingly passive warriors who overwhelmed others with their sheer numbers. On the other hand there were the animals, who were much less stationary and much less numerous than the plants.
The animals at first were seriously nerfed, with only some among them being able to cause minimal damage the plants by grazing attacks. What was worse was that animal poop was plant food! For a long time, the plants pwned the animals. Plant spamming was a frequent complaint to the gods/mods.
Obviously the game was unbalanced so the gods/mods decided to introduce a new animal class: the human. The human was the most dangerous animal yet. However, the human had a long learning curve so for quite some time the plants had an easy time pwing the human players who were all noobs at that point. Their gathering attack was even less effective against the plants than the other animals' grazing attacks.
Eventually however, some clans playing on certain maps unlocked a new package: the farmer. For the first time, the humans began to turn the tide against the plants, much to the chagrin of the latter who accused the humans of h4x. Now that the basic techniques of farming have been honed the learning curve is gone and over 70% of players now choose to be farmers.
Beware, however, as the gods/mods are rumored to introduce a new expansion pack called Urbanization which will nerf the farmer and force him to the margins of Life! Luckily the release date is a long time away. Until then, you will continue to rack up the points as a farmer. You did have to find a new server though, as you got banned from your old one.
Battle Rating:
2 - You don't have any type of military training and are dirt poor (actually you have a lot of dirt...) but you are ripped from toiling the fields all day and can swing a mean hoe.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
2 laborer (3)
Your mother reminds me of the most just socio-economic ideal: every worker gets a share!
:stupido: Laborer inside joke
You are a Laborer
Background:
Once upon a time the gods would build buildings and plow fields for humans. Then some stupid priest king tried to kill the gods because he was upset at how he had to walk downstairs to use the bathroom in his palace. Needless to say, the gods weren't happy with this ungrateful attitude towards their architectural design and so they made humans work.
So you work. It really isn't that bad, but you lot are a bunch of lazy whiners so you always complain and are ungrateful to the benevolent bourgeois.
You make a long list of grievances, but they really are pretenses for wanting a cushy white robe job like the priests and bureaucrats have where they just look at pretty women when their bosses aren't looking.
Battle Rating:
3 – Your line of work really toughens up a man, and even though you don't have any military training or equipment, you are pretty tough to fight against.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
2 merchant (1)
Much of the information contained in this message is not necessarily true and not available in all locations and valid for a limited time only.
:stupido: Terms and conditions
You are a Merchant
Background:
You have made your living by selling your products to other people who either do not need them or would be better off buying other products.
However, life for a merchant is tough in the big city with all the competition, which leads to drama, then politics, then violence. Because of this you got together with a few of your merchant acquaintances to decide what to do next.
Common sense eventually dictated that you all go find new settlements to live in. This way there would be less competition leading to more demand leading to more profit. You all agreed to follow this plan; all but one.
One among you decided instead to write a book about this plan and submit it to the local priest king. The priest king was so impressed by this plan’s applicability that he elevated the author to the chief administrative office and declared that he had invented a new science called Economics.
Somewhat jealous at your acquaintance’s newfound success, you nevertheless are optimistic at testing the unsaturated markets of the new settlements.
Battle Rating:
1 – Not only do you have no military training or equipment, but you have not done much in the way of physical exertion and are as soft as the silk sheet you sell. Good thing your trade requires you to convince people, because the only way you’ll come out alive from a fight is by having the other guy not fight you.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
1 potter (1)
Can I get it with chicken?
:stupido: A customer when buying a bowl
You are a Potter
Background:
Why did you become a potter? You often think about this question when your mind is idle on the wheel.
The most widely held theory is that you are descended from a tribe which incorporated pottery into a central position of their hunting rituals. Your tribe believed that if the hunter cannot see the prey then the prey cannot see the hunter and so one man of the tribe ingeniously instructed the hunters to put clay bowls over their heads so as to increase productivity during a famine.
Other theories have recently been advanced, more based on actual reality, such as the theory that you have inherited your profession supported by the fact that your father and your father’s father were potters, but so far these have not gained popularity from academics or the general public at large.
Whatever the reason, every new settlement needs a potter to make sure that the history and culture of a people is remembered when the potsherds are dug up thousands of years later (as well as the less important reason for providing vessels for various uses).
Battle Rating:
1 - You continue the traditions of your tribe by putting a pot over your head when you go into battle. Unfortunately, baked clay is not that effective at protecting against blows and a pot over the eyes impedes vision.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
2 shepherd (2)
Damn it Shakespeare, how'd you get out of the pen? You poop in that pool and you're gonna end up lunch meat!
:stupido: You to your sheep
You are a Shepherd
Background:
Your line of work was never easy, or glamorous, or well paying, but it was very rewarding. Until the Tax Collector began to show up that is. The man literally took everything from you, your sheep, your land, your children, and to top it off he demanded conjugal relations with your wife to pay off your debt.
When this point was reached, you had had enough. The Tax Collector was eventually dismissed from his post on account of the cost of the army that needed to be sent to accompany him when he visited the countryside, and so he went off to a new settlement to continue his evil work.
You are following him to bring justice and make sure he never oppresses others like he has oppressed you. You are accompanied by a fellow shepherd who has a similar history.
Battle Rating:
2 – Raising sheep means having to keep them in line, and while you haven't exactly had any type of formal military training, your background has made you scrappy if nothing else.
Note: In the case of a duel against the Tax Collector, both of you can fight together thus adding to your chances of victory (your battle ratings will be added together). This double team situation will only occur in a fight against The Tax Collector.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast The Tax Collector
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
1 soldier (4)
Why the **** did you stab me in the ribs?
:stupido: A civilian to a soldier
You are a Soldier
Background:
The first soldiers were priests who were committed to a peaceful environment in which the gods could be worshiped. They were given an exceptional military training and truly became vehicles of destruction long before the first pickup trucks were invented.
However, they turned out to be consummate professionals who oddly did not like to steal, rape, and kill. They were highly intelligent and individualistic, and so they were quickly able to note the contradictory nature of their means and goals and decided instead that it would be a more constructive use of their time to utter chants and burn meat.
The kings, realizing the problem, quickly needed a new demographic to fight for them. They found one that was more numerous and better suited for the job: the common people. Rounding up a rag tag bunch of foul mouthed farmers, highway robbers, and rugby players, the kings spent much more time brainwashing loyalty into these men by promising them women, alcohol, gold, and land in that order.
As a result, not much time was devoted to learning the techniques of warfare such as how to use weapons or how to march in formation leading to the resulting soldiers being unable to acquire complex military skills such as distinguishing friend from foe.
So the story goes of you, the loyal soldier of the priest king Reenk Roink.
Battle Rating:
4 – You were a strong man to begin with when you were recruited into the army, and after being given a rigorous military training and standard arms and armor, you are not one to get into a scuffle with.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)[/QUOTE]
1 sweeper (1)
For imaginative play and easy cleanup, the broom is the perfect toy!
:stupido: The merchant's slogan that convinced you to buy the broom
You are a Sweeper
Background:
You used to be a down-trodden beggar until the gods smiled upon you one fateful day. A grumpy old man just came up to you and handed you a masterwork suit of armor. It was constructed from the finest materials and so richly adorned that it would be the envy of the greatest kings in the land.
So many potential opportunities opened themselves up for you that day. You could become a great warrior! You could use the suit of armor to buy a great manor with a lot of land and many slaves! You could walk the streets decked out in the armor and have all the ladies of high lineage and low morals flock to you!
All of those scenarios seem to pale with the one that immediately confronted you. A most savory merchant seeing you with the armor, offered you a bargain you could not resist. He pulled out a broom, an object so versatile that it boggled your mind. You could make an entire career with it as a sweeper! You could use it as a weapon! You could use it to make a scarecrow! That was just the tip of the iceberg too, the possibilities of what you could do with the broom were endless, so you quickly made the trade.
When you heard about the expedition to new lands to found new settlements, you saw a great opportunity for adventure with your broom! Brand new streets to sweep and a lot of time to think...
Battle Rating:
1 - You have never had any military training and the only weapon you have is your broom. You may place a great deal of confidence in it but a fact's a fact: you are an easy pushover in a fight.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)[/QUOTE]
1 water carrier (2)
lol!
:stupido: Other people on hearing that you carry water
You are a Water Carrier
Background:
Why do you do the most humiliating job ever? The work that even slaves laugh at? There are many answers given to questions like these by many different people.
Your mother states you do it because you are the strongest man.
The farmers say you do it in order to piss in the water because you believe your urine has cosmetic benefits for the women who are not renowned for their beauty.
A pious priest says you do it because you are a kind man who likes to do beneficial services for the community.
A theory popular with academics is that you are actually an evil wizard who is putting some kind of dormant poison in the water. You will one day activate that poison which will make the entire settlement fond of nothing but archery. Then you will call in your army of mercenary swordsmen who will invade and a bloody battle will be fought with you eventually prevailing because swordsmen are strong against archers.
Some salute you, some ridicule you, and some warn against you but you go on, bringing water to the settlement every morning.
Battle Rating:
3 – Though you don’t have any military training or equipment, all the water lifting has made you ripped. You are as strong as the average warrior. All the taunting has also given you thick skin.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
good men basic roles:
3 bureaucrat (1)
I have found myself kneeling before quite a number of prominent priest kings and their pants were down sometimes.
:stupido: You on life as a courtier
You are a Bureaucrat
Background:
Looking around at your society you cannot help but feel pleased at the integral job your play in its administration. You perform a wide variety of crucial tasks for the priest king such as deciding on the pattern of his royal seal, mathcing the furniture with the drapes in the temple complex, and planning the potlucks.
It is clear that the people of your station are what make settlements run, which is why the animosity from the lesser peoples is so startling.
By the gods, you are a class of benevolent land owners and yet you are discriminated against because of your god given birthright!
Battle Rating:
1 - Living a most pampered and sheltered life has kept you away from military training or any sort of physical exertion whatsoever. Your high quality arms and armor will only be of so much use to one who knows nothing of fighting.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
1 poet (1)
Poetry is for cuckolded men and lonely women.
:stupido: A jerk on poetry
You are a Poet
Background:
The gods gave you the gift of words
To entertain the common turds...
You finish the damn thing, you are the poet are you not? Most usless group of people ever...
Battle Rating:
1 - You have always believed the word was mightier than the sword. Such a sentiment led you to neglect any physical or military training and will obviously hurt you in combat.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
3 priest (1)
If thou ever feeleth the desire to striketh another, restrain thyself and burneth a pound of meat to OsiOsi. He will allow thee to bed the wife of thee enemy.
:stupido: A priest's sermon
You are a Priest
Background:
There are a two prerequisites for becoming a priest:
1) Being old
2) Being a virgin
After that you can worship the gods all the time instead of just on weekends!
Battle Rating:
1 – Devoting yourself to the rituals of the gods leaves little time for military training. The strongest man is the one with the strongest faith as you say.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
2 scribe (1)
To the man who asserts that reading frees one mind we will respond that this proposition is patently false, and its falsity is perspicuously demonstrable as reading causes the man to take on board the ideas and views of the writer and thus his mind becomes nothing more than an intellectual slave to the writers he has read.
Yet we will go further than this and demonstrate that reading is not free even in monetary terms.
First consider the price of reading materials. We scribes make sure the prices of our writings are exuberant.
In considering the case of the man who does not buy what he reads, we offer this most excellent argument of indirect cost:
- it is a fact of temporal-spatial existence that the act of reading consumes time
- the above may be restated in language as reading causes the loss of time
- it also is a well known maxim that time is money
- thus money may be substituted for time in the statement reading causes the loss of time
- thus we obtain the conclusion that reading causes the loss of money
- the above may be restated in language as reading is not free
While the above argument is thoroughly devastating to any notion of reading being free, we will offer yet another one to thoroughly savage the potential objection of the apologist of reading that while reading may not be free, its net worth results in profit and thus it should be considered as a worthy enterprise to be undertaken by man.
To such an argument we offer this further rebuttal:
- it is said that reading gives one knowledge (this is a very disputable premise but we will grant it for the moment)
- it is a well known maxim that knowledge is power
- but it is also a well known maxim that power corrupts
- and it is a moral and legal principle that corruption is a crime
- and it is a well known maxim that crime does not pay
- and by a series of implication inferences and substitutions the conclusion that results is that reading is not free
:stupido: Excerpt from the book A Refutation of Reading
You are a Scribe
Background:
Scribes are the most elite and assiduous soldiers in the cause of Writing who have been warring against the clearly inferior but vastly numerous warriors of Reading.
It is said that the war began when the chief of an ancient desert tribe noticed that his walking stick was coated with dirt and this led him to try and remove the dirt by tapping the ground. He did so in a somewhat rhythmic manner and the lines and dots that resulted from his action was the first instance of writing.
This led to much jubilation for the chief and his tribe who began to engage in this new activity for hours. This led to many works of writing. Unfortunately it also resulted in the death of the nearly the entire tribe due to heat stroke.
Many years later, a group of men came across the plain where the ancient tribe had written and discovered their writings, preserved as carvings on the ground which had now become baked clay. By reading the writings the men became insane with the infinite possible constructions of interpretation and became a savage cult following the evil idol of Reading. The descendants of the survivors of the ancient tribe saw this and declared a holy war against Reading and its followers.
It is quite clear that the cause of Writing has the upper hand today, as most of the population cannot read while scribes hold high positions in priest king administrations.
Battle Rating:
1 - Not only has a life of writing kept you from any sort of physical exertion and military training, but your hand has also become crippled with overuse. The pen is mightier than the sword only on paper.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
loyalist roles:
the blessing of kefy (3) both [water carrier/priest]
Don't die.
:stupido: The best medical advice
You are The Blessing of Kefy
Background:
You were always a pious man, honoring the gods and helping your fellow men. The goddess Kefy was impressed by you and gave you the power to heal.
She did this by two ways. First she gave you some divine wisdom and supernatural powers of restoration. Second she taught you some important things about "normal" medicine.
Your new talents served you well. Word spread about you as some miracle man and you soon received the epithet "The Blessing of Kefy" for not only your healing skill but also your agreeable bedside manner.
You soon were elevated and made the local priest king's personal surgeon, and you used the great influence you gained in such a position to make the lives of the people better in all ways. Your motto always was prevention over treatment.
When the priest king died he named you heir instead of his eldest son. However, you declined because you wanted to prevent jealousy and strife, because taking such a position would prevent you from having the time to heal, and because you were too humble.
One day, Kefy came to you in a dream informing you the the agents of the god of war and foreign peoples Vode were going to try and usurp the new settlements that were to be made on the frontier lands.
Without hesitation you left your comfortable position to sail with a group of settlers, that you may ease their suffering in the turbulent time to come.
Battle Rating:
3 – You are not a man of war by any means and have no military training or equipment, but your healing abilities more than easily make up for your lack of strength and it will take quite a bit more effort to put you down as compared to men with similar stature and strength.
Abilities:
Healing: Every night, you may go and visit a settler to see if he is in good health. This will involve going into his tent or house and treating him if he is injured or sick in anyway. With the goddess Kefy working through your hands any miracle is possible.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
the eye of osiosi (1) - good men [priest]
Kid: He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake...
OsiOsi: That Santa Claus is such a ****** charlatan.
:stupido: OsiOsi on Santa Claus
You are The Eye of OsiOsi
Background:
OsiOsi, the sky god, the king of the gods, sees all.
When the peoples were created, OsiOsi thought that because they knew he was always watching them, they would be respectful and prudish. This was not so, and the people flagrantly picked their noses and scratched their butts.
The fact that the peoples did not seem to care one bit that OsiOsi was watching them enraged the sky god immensely. This was what led to the first great flood... The descendants of the surviving peoples were just like their ancestors, and this is why the early history of the world is so riddled with floods...
However, it was OsiOsi who learned his lesson before the peoples learned theirs. A distant god watching did not really have much of an effect on human behavior, so instead, he created in humans an innate nosiness.
Now people were much more careful not to pick their noses and scratch their butts unless they were alone. Chalk up another win for OsiOsi.
Your very refined mannerisms have led you to become one of the special elect of OsiOsi, and therefore he grants you his sight and lets you see what he sees.
Battle Rating:
1 – Devoting yourself to the rituals of OsiOsi leaves little time for military training. The strongest man is the one with the strongest faith as you say.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve making a request to OsiOsi who will then send you down the exact knowledge on that settler.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
the watcher (6) - men
We've got some great men here eh? Heroes of Legend; but Little Grizzly is by far our greatest warrior...
:stupido: Reenk Roink to his Bronze Companions before a raid
You are The Watcher
Background:
Born into a noble family closely associated with and even related to the line of the Reenk Roink, your tie with the priest king goes much beyond that. As young children you were inseparable playmates. As you grew older you were schooled in the ways of the gods, the study of administration, and the science of warfare. You participated on raids with Reenk Roink before the hair on either of your faces had grown dark and thick. Whenever the spoils were to be distributed, Reenk Roink would offer you the first pickings from the booty (in both senses), and you of course would decline courteously, in lieu of him. You would die for Reenk Roink and he would die for you.
It was you who stormed the walls of the Thieves of Carn, bringing much death to the criminals and recovering vast troves of stolen artifacts. It was you who came up with the brilliant stratagem that led to the capture of the island city of Kos with just sixty men. It was you who dealt the killing blow to the giant Qirt during the Great Civil War. It was you who tricked the demon Iffo into a signing a contract which bound him to charity.
You were the first of the Bronze Companions to pledge his sword when Reenk Roink had to seek new lands, and you were the one who volunteered to go and infiltrate the settlers in order to flush out the usurpers.
Disguising yourself as a beggar, you are the only one of the Bronze Companions who does not reside inside the walls of the priest king's Temple Complex. Instead, you blend inconspicuously among the settlers, determined in your goal to identify and destroy the usurper threat.
Beware, for your past heroic deeds have earned the ire of the less heroic. It is likely that they plot revenge...
Battle Rating:
6 - You are in the prime of your life. You have received the best training from an early age in both marital and tactical areas. You have been battle hardened with many experiences. You possess the highest quality arms and armor. You are truly an elite champion, your prowess being too great for most mortal men to handle.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to get a glimpse of what he is up to beyond the public appearances and interpreting the ever present and ever ambiguous signs of the gods. Well trained in both methods of surveillance and sign interpretation as well as focused on the goal of finding the usurpers you are confident that you will get reliable and relevant results, although everything may not be apparent to you.
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house and putting him to the sword. Of course, you are no capricious murderer, and this ability should only be used on those strongly suspected of having something to do with the treachery.
Note: You may only perform one action each night (you cannot both investigate and kill on the same night).
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
idiosyncratic roles:
the generous brewer (1) - men [cook]
You shoulda givens me the boozies when I -hic- ahsked ya. Ya know who I am? I'll lets ya into a little shecret.... I'm a DEMON! Yessh -hic- I am, powerful magicsh I wields and so nows whats its -hiccup- gonna be, death or... something?
:stupido: A drunk after you stopped serving him
You are [B]The Generous Brewer
Background:
Wine is an amazing gift from the gods is it not? It makes a man's friends funnier and it makes a man's wife prettier. It makes a man's troubles hard to remember and it makes a man's pain not hurt.
You were always fond of drink ever since your mother passed away and your father gave you swigs of wine instead of hiring a wet nurse.
However, your love for booze went to a whole new level recently. After having been traveling for several weeks, you were waylaid by bandits and robbed clean. With no food and no money, you were easy pickings for the unmerciful sun, and on your way to the nearest city you collapsed from exhaustion.
Most men would have died in that situation but thankfully things were different for you. Pisuf the party god was wandering around and found you dying. He gave you wine and restored your energy and then he gave you his secret to make the most divine wine.
Since that day, to honor the god, you have been brewing wine in the manner he told you and share the blessing with others. This made you very unpopular with the bartenders where you lived as you were ruining their business so they conspired to kill you.
One night on your routine booze drops, four bartenders showed up armed with broken bottles. However, just as they were about to stab you to death, the god Pisuf showed up with a well shaken bottle of wine and sprayed the **** out of your assailants.
After the close call, you decided to leave your city and join one of the voyages to a new settlement, where you may spread drunkenness in peace.
Battle Rating:
1 – Why fight when you can drink together eh?
Abilities:
Serve Drinks: Every night, you brew your special wine and leave it in front of a settler's house or tent. Whatever they are doing that night will have to wait for a night of hitting the sauce.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
the oligarch (3) - good men
Look at these peasants at the gate, shouting for bread and burning things. So matter of fact and straight to business. I somewhat like that. No...no, "like" is the wrong word choice. "Hate" is more the feeling I was trying to capture in that phrase...
:stupido: You on the masses
You are The Oligarch
Background:
Oh how you loathe the insufferable domestics of society! Now the brazen horde wants to participate in political and social life...
Your distaste for the lower classes goes far back. You were a young man, and in love with the most wonderful girl. She had it all: noble lineage, loads of money, good looks...
You were going to pull all your charms on this noble lady at a ball, and made the most careful preparations. Yet this meticulous plan was undone by the ineptitude of the common rabble.
You see, you had pulled out your trump card, a most exquisite pair of trousers, which would no doubt attract your prospective mate. You left very careful instructions with the tailor to put an extra two pleats on the codpiece, which would be the key to your love's heart.
Of course, the ignorant fool did such shoddy work and ruined your entire love life. Such a wait for service too! Enraged, not only did you withhold the tip, but you devoted your life to keeping the common settlers in their place and sparing the nobles from their evil and stupidity.
You must save the settlement from the settlers!
Battle Rating:
3 – Your life has been one of comfort and privilege, but the job of keeping the unwashed masses in place has forced you take the initiative and undergo military training.
Abilities:
Vote Tampering: Every day, before voting ends, you may tamper with the vote count, adding one tally to a settler of your choice and removing one tally from a settler of your choice.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
the psyensil (4) both [sweeper/scribe]
[B]Superstitious rabble: The gods are true.
You: O RLY?
Superstitious rabble: Our traditional stories show the best way of life.
You: LOL R U SRS?
Superstitious rabble: You are an *******.
You: This is why I have young nobles following me around writing my sayings for wisdom, right?
:stupido: A common day of spreading enlightenment
You are The Psyensil
Background:
Everything is accessible to mankind. Or at least to certain men. Or at least to a certain man. You.
Nobody knows (or cares) where you born or to who, but yet you still write that you are the most important man on the world due to the fact that you have acquired wisdom and thrown of the chains of superstition and ignorance. Now if only the others would see it that way...
You were a pretty normal child growing up, dirty, stinky, and always annoyingly asking Why? Why? Why? The only difference is that you didn't outgrow this habit but rather embraced it in your adulthood and styled it as a method of polemic. With this valuable method, you were able to win any argument.
However, proving others wrong became unsatisfying after a while (not to mention socially isolating and even physically dangerous at times), and you began to turn your method inwards after both your arms were broken by an brothel owner and prostitution apologist who you humiliated after you convincingly argued: "Even if you contend that ******* are ****, then I would contest that this is most certainly a social mistake, as intrinsically this is not so and it is of those things you profess, and so you should not pretend to the contrary when the truth is that ******* ain't ****” (although he claimed that the beating was due to the fact that you did not pay for his venue's services).
With this new attitude of introspection, your most important ideas sprouted. You began to not only criticize existing notions, but promote alternatives to fill their place. Your alternative was that of a worldview that would be based on sound reasoning and empirical evidence. You began to investigate every phenomena (theoretical, natural, social) using your methodology and provide explanations for them within its parameters.
An enlightened paradigm emerged, and it (along with your new found commitment to personal hygiene) began to draw to you a great number of followers, usually young nobles fed up with the traditional restrictions that suffocated their free thinking. Obviously, it also drew the ire from the conservative elements in both the religious and political spheres, where you were charged with blasphemy (as you believed men created the gods rather than vice versa) and promoting rebellion to the old order (as the entire framework on which the priest kings ruled was challenged by you).
You fled from court to court of different priest kings, only to find you quickly overstayed your welcome. You were evicted on many pretenses bastardized from your actual teachings. Especially prevalent were the accusations that you were a foreigner who wanted to erase the memory of the gods to replace them with a new set of foreign gods and that you were a a wicked sorcerer who possessed a deep understanding of nature such that you could use its powers.
So you found yourself having to leave the mainland as the majority of the people were not ready for the enlightenment that you preached. Perhaps a new settlement away from the shackles of the old ways would be a better setting in which the seeds of your teachings could germinate. While you have a lot of money from your generous patrons over the years, some of your poor personal hygiene habits have resurfaced and you are too busy immersed in the vast oceans of thought to look after your personal grooming or dress.
Battle Rating:
4 - Although you are physically weak, you have invented many contraptions which serve to terrify the uneducated masses (although to an enlightened man like yourself they simply exhibit the normal properties of the physical world). You thus have a huge psychological advantage, as people are wary to cross what they perceive as a demon sorcerer.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to get a glimpse of what he is up to beyond the public appearances. You will collect all sorts of empirical observations and then subject them to rigorous analysis to formulate sound conclusions. You are confident that your results will produce solid evidence which you then can take to the town to catch the usurpers, thus solidifying your position in society and paving a way for a general acceptance of your worldview.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
the tax collector (2+) - good men
The Tax Collector took everything I owned, so my family has been living on manure stolen from the landlord's estate.
:stupido: A peasant on you
You are The Tax Collector
Background:
Your line of work is an important one. Whenever a priest king needs to start a war, build a temple complex, pay off a gambling or prostitution debt, or wipe after heeding nature's call he looks to you.
Your job is a simple but important one. You go around the countryside with a band of big men and shake down all the peasants taking whatever gold, animals, or children you can find on them.
Astonishingly, this makes you quite unpopular among the masses. You were eventually dismissed from your old post as the priest king noticed how he had to send larger and larger groups of men to accompany you to the countryside.
So you have decided to join the voyage undertaken by the priest king Reenk Roink and become his tax collector. You are extremely excited at the new opportunity for the implementation of a more comprehensive tax system.
In fact, you have a dream. You have a dream that one day the peasants will be educated enough (with money from tax revenue) to be so well trained that they shake down themselves and mail you their trusts themselves. What a great day that will be!
Beware, however, there have been threats from peasants who said they would hunt you down even after you left your old posting...
Battle Rating:
2+ – You are not physically strong or militarily trained at all but have quite a bit of exposure to fighting with watching your thugs beat up peasants and what not. You can also afford fine arms and armor, even if you don't know how to use them.
Note: Your Battle Rating can increase (see Abilities).
Abilities:
Indentured Servants: Every round (a night and day period), you will get an indentured servant to come join you in the settlement. This indentured servant is wholly at your command, and will vote on your behalf and fight for you. Whenever an indentured servant arrives, you will have one added to your battle rating and your vote tally count (you may still only vote for one person).
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
the village idiot (-1) - men [farmer]
What's that big sword for?
:stupido: You to a Bronze Companion
You are [B]The Village Idiot
Background:
You were always a quiet child, until one day a teacher said that children should always ask questions, and thus set into motion one of the biggest scourges placed upon mankind.
From that day you went around your village, stopping people on the road and engaging them in the most imbecilic dialogue imaginable. Thousands of attempts were made at your life, and you were spared in each one of them simply because the god Pisuf was so amused by you (he considered you the greatest human alive and made you his chosen one) that he would whisk you away to a different city or village where the cycle would start afresh.
You have been considered as a weapon of mass destruction sent by rival priest kings and as a demon sent to punish all of mankind for their wickedness.
The last whisking away to spare your life in a long time placed you aboard the ship of the priest king Reenk Roink on its way to found a new settlement. Apparently, Pisuf has fallen out of favor with the rest of the gods and stripped of his power. You are on your own.
Battle Rating:
-1 – Nuff said.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
nefarious roles:
iffo the fallen/risen (0/7) - men [merchant]
It gives me deep and profound joy to relate to you that I do not have the particular item that you desire.
:stupido: You to a person asking you for something
You are Iffo the Fallen/Risen
Background:
You are Iffo, a demon of great power. You are the corrupter. Crooked men from all walks of life look up to you and your example.
Or at least those things were true. You were beaten at your own game of deceit by a Bronze Companion of the priest king Reenk Roink. Though you never learned his identity, he called himself The Watcher.
He came to you once claiming desire to learn one of the sciences you taught: swindling. You accepted to teach him on the condition that he would give you 100% of the profits he made by this art.
He agreed and even stated he would write the terms down on a contract which would have the king of the gods OsiOsi as witness, rewarding those who upheld the agreement and punishing those who broke it. You eagerly signed the contract, only realizing the grave error you had committed after the ink had dried.
You watched in horror as he smirked at you, peeling off the top layer of papyrus revealing the real text of the contract you had signed. You, Iffo the mighty, had bound yourself to total charity and total pacifism as long as The Watcher stayed alive, and this was enforced by the god of the sky himself!
Since then, you have wandered around the world with your many possessions, giving them freely to whoever may ask. Many children have come to you, pelted you with various objects, and gave you noogies and you bore this humiliation in silence as obliged.
Eager to save whatever possessions of yours that remained, you disguised yourself so as to avoid notice and embarked on one of those voyages to found a new settlement. Ironically, the group you went with was to be led with Reenk Roink, and so you know The Watcher is among the settlers.
How frustrating indeed that even as he is in your presence, you may not strike or even plot against him, as stipulated in the contract. So you wait, and bitterly loathe...
Battle Rating:
0/7 – You are a powerful demon given to terrible war possessing many magical artifacts that bestow on their bearer great power. Few could resist your battle prowess. With that being said, as long as The Watcher is alive, the contract you signed binds you to total pacifism, and you must not fight even when attacked.
Note: While The Watcher is alive your battle rating will be 0 and you may not issue any challenges. If/when The Watcher dies your battle rating will be 7 and you may issue challenges.
Abilities:
Contractual Charity: Every night, you must part with one of your many items of wonder and give them to a settler. This will involve dropping the item in front of a settler’s house or tent. Although your items are of diverse uses, they all will give the new owner some power that will make them a more formidable foe (add one to the settler’s battle rating).
Note: This is your ability (contractual obligation) while The Watcher is alive. If/when The Watcher dies you will gain new (your original) abilities.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the settlers
Outlast the usurpers
Outlast The Watcher
the last theif of carn (4) - men [farmer]
We respect property. We merely wish the property become our property so we may more perfectly respect it.
:stupido: Thieves of Carn motto
You are The Last Thief of Carn
Background:
The Thieves of Carn started off as a band of thugs who engaged in petty theft and highway robbery but they soon grew to much more than that. Soon they were able to establish a stronghold and conduct raids and assassinations. A raid led by priest king Reenk Roink himself was launched against the Thieves of Carn stronghold where almost every last thief was slaughtered.
Only one thief survived. You.
You don’t seem to mind that your friends were massacred. You don't even mourn much for all the loot you had worked so hard to steal throughout the years. What really boils your blood is the damage done to your occupation and way of life.
You blame it all on one of the closest Bronze Companions of Reenk Roink. They called him The Watcher. It was him who was the first over the walls of the stronghold. It was him who killed your brother and took your brother's wife. It was him who embarrassed you in combat making you feign death so you would not be killed. While you lay there, pretending to be dead, he confiscated all of your loot.
Ever since that day you have vowed revenge against The Watcher. When you learned that Reenk Roink would make the journey to found a new settlement you knew that The Watcher would be there. So you would also be there.
Battle Rating:
4 – You are not physically strong but you are extremely quick. You have also had extensive training with weapons and fighting techniques as a former assassin and although a straight up fight is not your usual modus operandi, you can more than hold your own in battle.
Abilities:
Assassination: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler in order to determine if he is The Watcher. This will involve breaking into his tent or house to make sure of his identity. If the tent or house your break into belongs to The Watcher, you will assassinate him. If not, you will grab some loot and flee.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
Outlast The Watcher
divine roles:
pisuf (10) - both [potter/poet]
I shared a bottle of wine with him once and woke up with a terrible pain in my loins...
:stupido: Kefy the goddess of the earth on you
You are Pisuf
Background:
The god of the arts, you are the patron of the things which some misguided fools, both divine and mortal, call low. You inspire man to create the most exquisite works of pornographic poetry and pottery from his deepest and most basic instincts.
You are a free spirit and some call you a troublemaker, including that hard*** OsiOsi, lord of the sky and king of the gods. He didn't give a damn when you bedded his wife Remi along with three mortal woman in his chambers. Yet when you farted during the assembly and then blamed it on him he banished you from the Divine Forest and forced you into a mortal form...
As you walked among the mortals you made your presence felt in many ways. You were the one who started the great Civil War by first going to each different priest king and making many interleaving treaties. Then you triggered the war by disguising yourself as one priest king and sleeping with another’s wife. You singlehandedly ended years of famine in one city by introducing a thousand talents of gold into the economy and you brought the end of another city by stealing the money from them. You rounded up all the disenfranchised people in a city and had them overthrow the priest king only to personally lead an army to reinstate the priest king when the new rulers become corrupt with power.
Your actions have been labeled as many things by the mortals, but you are a god, far above the standards of men, and so it bothers you little that you have been accused of indulgent caprice.
OsiOsi has given you a redemption quest which you have ignored for far too long. You are to find and kill an impious man who dishonors the gods. He is called The Psyensil and OsiOsi gave word that he was heading with a group to found a new settlement. You have jumped along with this group. Given the situation, your mission taking a backseat to the opportunities for fun you will have.
Battle Rating:
10 - Although your status as an god has been stripped from you, you still are the most powerful mortal being on the world. Standing over nine feet tall in this mortal form, you are more fearsome in war than the greatest heroes of legend ever were. Your knowledge far surpasses the greatest sages of this world and you have an incredible command of magic. You will indeed seem like a god to these mortals.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve making a request to OsiOsi who will then send you down the exact knowledge on that settler.
Resistances: Due to your unique status, you will be unaffected in many ways from the world around you. However, you do not know the limits of your resistances and they may change depending on the path you choose.
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. You will have many methods at your disposal to perform this deed.
Note: You may only perform one action each night (you cannot both investigate and kill on the same night).
Victory Conditions:
Your victory conditions depend wholly on what course you decide to follow. You can ally yourself with the settlers or you can ally yourself with the usurpers or you can give aid to neither and go your own way. However, a necessary condition for your victory regardless of which course you undertake is that you must outlast The Psyensil.
Note: Send me your choice at any point during the game while you are still alive. You cannot change your choice.
usurper roles:
vode's dagger (4) - men [farmer]
Andres flees... to rule from afar!
:stupido: You
You are Vode's Dagger
Background:
You just were a thief. A good one, but just a thief. Then these weird but scary men recruited you with promises of power and wealth beyond your wildest imagination.
You pretended to agree while adeptly pickpocketing the one wearing the high highfalutin robes (the burly man with the scary face was too intimidating) and you nearly got away with it, but you swear some invisible force started telling him about what you were doing.
The burly man was about to cleave you in half but the robed man stopped him and smiled at you. He said you had proven your worth to be part of their plans. He then produced for you a large bag of gold from thin air, telling you that it was just the tip of the iceberg for what plans they had.
Could there be any better friends and colleagues?
Battle Rating:
4 - You are a weak small fan who nevertheless is very dangerous in a fight due your speed and stealth abilities. Larger, stronger, and better trained men would do well to watch out for your
Abilities:
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. This involves entering his tent or house and stabbing him to death. You are much better at escaping with your own life if you fail to take your target than most.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the settlers (usurper victory)
vode's eyes (2) - men [farmer]
The mind will show you more, if you will only set it free.
:stupido: Vode while removing your eyesight
You are Vode's Eyes
Background:
You used to be a great warrior from a faraway foreign land, but you sacrificed it to the god of wars and foreign peoples. Vode removed much of your life essence leaving only a dessicated husk of a body.
The wisdom you gained was worth it. Left blinded by the removal of your essence, you have never seen any more clearly, and you see your goal firmly in front of you.
Battle Rating:
2 - Though the draining of your life essence was thorough you still possess some fraction of your former strength thanks to Vode and can put up a scrappy fight.
Abilities:
Investigation: Every night period, you may attempt an investigation on one settler. This will involve making a request to Vode who will then send you down the exact knowledge on that settler.
Occultation: Vode protects you with his own presence from any scrying methods or magics, even of divine origin.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the settlers (usurper victory)
vode's sword (8) - both [laborer/bureaucrat]
The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, and to rob them of their wealth and lives. To see them bathed in blood and to and those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.
:stupido: The motto of Vode
You are Vode's Sword
Background:
You were heir apparent to become priest king of a powerful city, but on his deathbed, your father decided that you would not succeed him due to your cruel and unjust nature. You killed your father because of this and thus did Vode enter your life.
Vode is the god of wars and foreign peoples. He is no friend of your people, but then again, you are not either.
Vode offered you great power, much greater than you would have had as just a priest king. Vode offered you to become the king of all the cities. The king of kings. The god of foreign peoples indeed piqued your thirst for power, and you decided to serve him.
He taught you well, Vode did. He increased your power greatly and gave you many wondrous items. He stripped all compassion, conscience, and remorse from you and filled them with anger, hate, and violence.
Now it is the time to act. Vode has decided that the best place to start is to conquer the new settlements that will be forged in the frontier. So Vode has sent you with three other agents to usurp power from a young priest king Reenk Roink. How you hate him. He embodies everything you are not. You will take great pleasure in cutting him down.
To reach this Reenk Roink, you must first kill everything in his settlement. Vode demands bloodshed; he gains power from it.
Battle Rating:
8 - Before devoting yourself to Vode you already were a warrior of legendary power. Now that you are in the war god's service, you have truly become a vessel for killing. You are indeed the most powerful human in the world. Nothing can resist you.
Abilities:
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. This will involve breaking into his tent or house and putting him to the sword.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the settlers (usurper victory)
vode's wand (6) - good men [priest]
On my left I bring a line of water and on my right I bring a line of fire.
:stupido: Vode's mystical saying
You are Vode's Wand
Background:
It is true that the god of wars and foreign peoples has bestowed the most power on Vode's Sword, but you are indeed his most trusted servant.
True to your god's portfolio, you are a foreign sorcerer of immense power. Vode has sent you to accompany his agents to ensure that both the earthly empire is carved out for Vode's Sword and that enough blood is spilt on the earth for Vode. For the true reason behind this plan is for Vode to kill OsiOsi and replace him as the king of the gods!
It all starts with disposing this pathetic little priest king Reenk Roink.
Battle Rating:
6 - You are diminutive in stature but your very presence makes people wary as it emanates power. You are one of the most skilled in the use of magic, and your spells can cause terrible damage.
Abilities:
Kill: Every night period, you may attempt to kill one settler. With your powerful magics, you have many avenues of murder at your disposal.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the settlers (usurper victory)
Sasaki Kojiro
04-07-2009, 16:21
:laugh4:
Seamus win would have been sweet though.
Reenk Roink
04-07-2009, 16:24
:laugh4:
Seamus win would have been sweet though.
Seamus stayed alive during a town victory and I remember him saying he always wanted to do that so that's nice. Our usurper crew were great prevailing against incredibly bad luck (as will be seen). A big congrats to them and thanks. Of course every one who got a role played it greatly as well, and the game wouldn't be a tenth as good without them. Lastly thanks to all the townies for participating in any way you did. Obviously you were the meat of the game. :bow:
LittleGrizzly
04-07-2009, 16:25
Great!!
So glad i was wrong on Seamus and that no-one paid any attention to my suspicions of him whatsoever!
Well played town, we got them in the end!
Awesome game Reenk!
One of the most enjoyable i have played... next time your hosting im in for sure....
Congratulations, town :bow:
EDIT: And of course: THANK YOU FOR HOSTING, REENK :bow:
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