The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[LittleGrizzly]

I would like to remind everyone that the mafia can both switch thier votes at the last second and gain easy victory, if we go for sasaki in force now sasaki will be lynched and we have a much better townie to scum ratio to finish the game with.... one player with a late vote is alot less worrying than two...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Yes, the mathematics is simple. THIS LYNCH must get a mafioso or its over.

If the sentiment is that Sasaki is the one, then both townies and our neutral MUST vote for him. Any vote that does not feature all four Non-Sasaki votes as Votes on Sasaki can be turned.

If you're not sure its Sasaki, you still must settle on one name and vote heavy. Any divided vote is a loss on vote manipulation near the close of the round at 4am EDT.

[Lord Winter]

Lord Winter and/or pevergreen:

Can you please clear up this whole suicide issue?

I PM'd pevergreen asking for a suicide as I felt I couldn't fulfill my obligations in this game. He denied it, saying he didn't want to suicide anyone that late in the game.

Vote: Sasski

It's obvious that he is the remaining grunt. Therefore by lynching him we get an extra round and more importantly an extra night kill to knock off more suspects.

Will do a read through and try to build a through case on El Diablo.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Screw it, let's roll the dice.

Unvote: Sasaki
Vote: El Diablo

[pevergreen]

Tie vote, 'khaan has the deciding vote.

Consider it night anyway.

[GeneralHankerchief]

For the record, I determined that El Diablo was our likely Godfather several hours ago. I just didn't say anything in the thread/change my vote until the last second in case Sasaki tried to do some more last-second manipulation.

Let's just hope that khaan follows through now.

[Andres]

For the record, I determined that El Diablo was our likely Godfather several hours ago. I just didn't say anything in the thread/change my vote until the last second in case Sasaki tried to do some more last-second manipulation.

Let's just hope that khaan follows through now.

:laugh4:

[LittleGrizzly]

So because we have now tied and noone has died this means the scum kill off a player tonight we have 2 bad guys and 2 other guys left next day round... the lynch is tied (or a non bad guy dies) and victory is the scums in the next round...

Is this right ?

Ohh hang on... when it says 'khaan has the deciding vote he means 'khaan picks who we lynch right ?

So as long as 'khaan picks right we can still win right...?

Intresting that GH saved sasaki at the last second... wouldn't you say...

[pevergreen]

Ohh hang on... when it says 'khaan has the deciding vote he means 'khaan picks who we lynch right ?

Yup. Its night phase, but he still has to lynch.

[seireikhaan]

Oh goody. I was able to grab a few winks of sleep and get to see the lynch out anyways! :applause:

Unvote: GeneralHankerchief

and...

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

[LittleGrizzly]

Lol!

I could actually feel the tension opening that series of spoilers...

Thank you for making the right choice!!

[pevergreen]

The finals days had come...the voting had come to a standstill, two seemingly opposite groups, with one voter in the middle.

'khaan cast his deciding vote on Sasaki Kojiro

pevergreen bound and gagged Sasaki and dragged him away.

Come morning, would more of them lay dead, or would the threat to the town be removed?

Alive:
GeneralHankerchief
Lord Winter
serierkhaan
El Diablo

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir
Sasaki Kojiro

It is now Night 9. Orders please.

[Reenk Roink]

First why wasn't' GH killed a long time ago?

Second, you do realize that khaan probably needs to die for a town victory? Unless pever says so otherwise.

Sasaki was a good choice, but GH should have been killed before Atpg. :wall:

I'm pulling for Lord Winter and El Diablo though, if they win as Mafia, great job! :2thumbsup:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Eh, not too pleased about the choice khaan made. All that's going to happen is that the game'll be extended.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

:driver:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

btw:


This determination, read by Oswald in the morning paper, caused him to soak said paper in his morning coffee,

:coffeenews:

Well I guess it isn't too obvious...I'm the only one I've seen use that emoticon though.


Also, this was supposed to be the ending of the Andres kill:


He had just began to think it was his lucky day when he was roughly dragged from the carriage and across the grass to edge of the cliff. He attempted to struggle but was completely outmatched. Held by Oswald out over the edge of the cliff, with his feet dangling over the empty air and, far below, the rocky seashore and pounding surf, he looked into his attacker's eyes for the slightest hint of mercy, but found only mirth.

Returning to the carriage, Oswald found the girl sitting with her hands over her eyes, frightened by the roughness with which Andres had been dragged away.

"What did you do with him?", she asked.

"I let him go".

But it got changed because Andres was joey...

"I let him know" ~:confused: what was that supposed to mean pever?

You may have seen the movie it referenced. Couple other literature references as well.

And pizza, your google-fu let you down this game...

[Andres]

You may have seen the movie it referenced.

Commando :2thumbsup:

WARNING! - LINK TO VIDEO WITH SOME BAD LANGUAGE

Sully's demise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkXY6MN96E&feature=related)

[Diana Abnoba]

Ooooh, a suspenseful ending. Loved the video link Andres. :yes:

[El Diablo]

Have we stuffed up?

Why is Sasaki not a named character in the lynch write up?

[El Diablo]

BTW GH is the other mafia. I know that now.

[Reenk Roink]

BTW GH is the other mafia. I know that now.

GH gave himself away when he went after WE well, not really since nobody jumped after him. :wall:

[White_eyes:D]

GH gave himself away when he went after WE well, not really since nobody jumped after him. :wall:

No kidding:no:....but Seamus didn't conclude that one of the FIRST two people he sent his results, in case he was killed was a Godafather....and then as I thought, GH used me as a scapegoat with his grunt, Sasaki pushing for my lynch....Lucky break for GH....:shame:


I also thought that he was a Godfather, when he didn't respond to my PM about Sasaki being a grunt.....Looks like he threw his "Mike fingers" buddy under the bus.....thought he went out to quiet:inquisitive:(no "I am innocent it's just GH being paranoid....or I am a townie".....:smash::smash:

[pevergreen]

Thing is, he wasnt meant to be named...

So it was all suspenseful and everyone was going "Did we get him? :O:O:O:O"

[White_eyes:D]

Thing is, he wasnt meant to be named...

So it was all suspenseful and everyone was going "Did we get him? :O:O:O:O"

hmmm....no.....Sasaki was guilty....RULE NO.2:grin2:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Thing is, he wasnt meant to be named...

So it was all suspenseful and everyone was going "Did we get him? :O:O:O:O"

Well, uh, I was innocent all along!

think that ship has sailed...

[pevergreen]

The remaining members of Inishmore slept lightly, not knowing if it was all over or if they still had some time left.

They gathered in the morning and waited. All except GeneralHankerchief turned up.

When they looked around, he had been pinned to his front door with arrows, shot from a longbow. The longbow was left in the kitchen.

All knew this was the last chance they had.

Alive:
Lord Winter
serierkhaan
El Diablo

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly
GeneralHankerchief

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir
Sasaki Kojiro

It is now Day 10. It is the final day. One remains among you who has the power to kill, remove him for victory.

(Im posting this now, as Im going out soon.)

[Lord Winter]

Vote: El Diablo

GH is a very strange kill, he was second on my suspect list.

More to come latter.

[Lord Winter]

Also, the fact that we are still playing confirms that Sasski was a grunt, as we had two mafiosos last time.

[White_eyes:D]

The longbow was left in the kitchen. hmmm.....didn't the Welsh come up with the long bow first...???:book: but then Khaan would not have thrown Sasaki under the bus then....:shrug: Lord Winter or El Diablo.....which one????:inquisitive:

Edit:After thinking about it....only El Diablo stands out....I can't find anything too heavy on Khaan or Lord Winter:shrug: ~:cheers: to whoever wins....:bow:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 254
04-04-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)

Hmm I understand what you're saying. But the dramatic peak of the game was the round boudica got lynched. Every game has a peak, and after that it always goes downhill. Capo II the round kukri got lynched, settlement when jolt was lynched and iffo killed, GF3 when it was decided that the dead would vote. That ship has sailed.

As it is, you're suggesting that GH and I argue for khaan's lynch without somehow revealing anything.

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pevergreen 253
04-04-2009 10:20 AM ET (US)

don't reveal.

Come on...the idea is the town DOESNT know who you are. They shouldnt know if GH was the GF or not.

Not happy Sasaki.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 252
04-04-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)

You'll have to post the kill you wrote sometime.

It's funny, I was going to suggest you send in your kill asap like I did with seamus, but I figured khaan wouldn't have tipped his hand like that if he could kill at night. All he had to do was lynch el diablo and then kill you?

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Ituralde 251
04-04-2009 06:38 AM ET (US)

Great game! Congratulations to you two. I wish I could have played a larger part in the grand sheme, but my internet time wouldn't allow for more.

It's been fun to try my hands at one of these Mafia games again. I'll see when I find the time to try my hands at the next.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 250
04-04-2009 01:09 AM ET (US)

Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 249
04-03-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)

This is the first game as mafia where I've actually written kills, was quite enjoyable. And having offed the IRA, a serial killer, and a welshman we've done our duty by the loyal citizens of great britain that the irish are.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 248
04-03-2009 06:52 PM ET (US)

Great game, guys. It's been a pleasure to play with you. Whether or not we officially won or lost, I think we accomplished our mission to the best of our abilities.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 247
04-03-2009 10:26 AM ET (US)

heh, enjoy :)

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 246
04-03-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-03-2009 10:23 AM
Well, especially now that he offed Sasaki, yeah. This one's gonna be brutal.
pevergreen 245
04-03-2009 05:58 AM ET (US)

your gunna kill him no matter what?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 244
04-03-2009 04:07 AM ET (US)

Hmm, not an ideal situation with khaan still casting a tiebreaker, but he's in an even worse position. He votes for El Diablo, he dies. He votes for Sasaki, he dies.

No mercy, not even if he saves our butts in the end. Consider it his penalty for dragging us on like this.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 243
04-03-2009 03:57 AM ET (US)

Well, I didn't stay up until 4AM on a Thursday night to *not* cast a vote.

Let's do this.
pevergreen 242
04-03-2009 02:40 AM ET (US)

maybe everyone gets lynched? XD
GHPerson was signed in when posted 241
04-03-2009 01:31 AM ET (US)

No lynch, double lynch. Nice trend. :P
pevergreen 240
04-03-2009 01:24 AM ET (US)

you dont get to know, but look at the trend :P
GHPerson was signed in when posted 239
04-03-2009 01:15 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-03-2009 01:15 AM
I suppose it's too much to ask what you'll do in the case of a tie.

-edit- Haha, nice. G'night Sasaki.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 238
04-03-2009 01:14 AM ET (US)

Don't suppose you'll tell us what happens in the event of a tie? lol

Going to bed... think that's our best shot GH.

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pevergreen 237
04-03-2009 01:01 AM ET (US)

round ends at exactly 6:00pm here. Anything on 6:00 counts, 6:01 does not, same as I said sasaki. Thats 3 hours away.

I didnt give the quicktopic to him :P

If it gets down to 4, you win. any more questions, im here from now until the lynch.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 236
04-03-2009 12:27 AM ET (US)

Intuition that he knew wouldn't fly so he backed it up with fake proof? Hahaha.

Most of the round will take place on a Saturday. Maybe the other two won't log on and I'll be the only one voting.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 235
04-03-2009 12:24 AM ET (US)

Sure, but what would his motivation be? He got killed by us...therefore he is our enemy...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 234
04-03-2009 12:22 AM ET (US)

And we can point out that we faked chat logs in Capo I.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 233
04-03-2009 12:21 AM ET (US)

I have a feeling khaan has enough chat logs to get you lynched if that's the case.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 232
04-03-2009 12:17 AM ET (US)

If it doesn't go our way, though... I stick out like a sore thumb. At least if I keep hidden there's a chance of me surviving in the next round.

Well, I have a few hours to make my decision at any rate. :P
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 231
04-03-2009 12:11 AM ET (US)

Eh, I think you could reasonably go for a tie. And who knows, maybe we'd both be saved, maybe, we'd both die, maybe pever flips a coin, maybe there's a "next vote decides it"--basically either we win with a tie or it's no worse than a regular lynch.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 230
04-03-2009 12:01 AM ET (US)

Okay, I'll stay up and make my switch then if necessary. If khaan doesn't switch then I won't try for a tie - instead, we'll kill khaan and you might do something we talked about in the PM.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 229
04-02-2009 11:59 PM ET (US)

hmm well, I have two votes on me besides yours. So we could only tie it between khaan and myself. I have a feeling khaan will switch his vote before then though, and I'd really rather not stay up till 4 am.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 228
04-02-2009 11:52 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 11:54 PM
Out of curiosity, *will* you be on for the deadline (still don't know when that is... c'mon pever)?

-edit- And I don't know... you can't underestimate the shock value of a surprise lynch. I'm sure that's the last thing he thinks will happen to him.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 227
04-02-2009 11:49 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-03-2009 12:20 AM
I say we kill him at night--that way we can insult him in the write up. The pen is mighter than the sword lol.

And we might as well wait and see. Tell him to ask pever if we're allowed to kill him if it gets down to four and the game is over.

"Khaan limped hurriedly down the street, his gimp leg causing him to hobble along with an awkward gait. His drunkenness had started another argument with his wife over his general slobbishness and unemployment, and in his anger he had slapped her in the face. The resulting fight left him bruised and sobbing, as it always did when he and his wife fought, for he was a frail man and quite short, besides being hampered by his leg. Now, with tears in his eyes, he walked as quickly as he could towards the one pub that still gave him credit.

Out of an alley ahead of him a man appeared, dressed in a neat suit and carrying a pistol in each hand. Khaan realized that he was going to die. A man with any sense of dignity would stand up and bravely face his killer, but khaan was not that man. He let out a wail of fright and ran as fast as his stumpy little legs would carry him. He didn't make it 10 paces before he tripped and fell into the gutter, which he desperately crawled along, thinking of nothing but escaping death.

Behind him he heard the click of a safety being turned off and at that moment the terror became to much for him and he passed out and drowned in the mixture of urine, vomit, and spilt beer that filled the gutter to a considerable height"

you get the idea...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 226
04-02-2009 11:22 PM ET (US)

Let's lynch him.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 225
04-02-2009 11:20 PM ET (US)

I bet you anything khaan's going to say something along the lines of "I was going to string you along for a round and then vote on your side when we got to three". Too bad I don't roll that way though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 224
04-02-2009 10:17 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 11:03 PM
Eh, the more I think about it, the less he makes sense.

If you kill him, he says he'll out you and you'll lose.

But if he's alive, El Diablo will have no one to vote other than you--because he knows that he's innocent and that khaan is not the brit godfather.

So why does he expect you to let him live?

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eh well, if he doesn't change his vote today we can tie it up and see what happens. No lynch or double lynch, either one gives us victory.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 223
04-02-2009 10:16 PM ET (US)

Suicidal spite moves FTW!!!

Lord Winter and El Diablo, premature congratulations.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 222
04-02-2009 10:04 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 10:11 PM
Oh yeah. If he isn't going to play along this round he's not going to play around the next. Tell him you'll never post the quicktopic if he doesn't vote el diablo :)

Presumably he has more than one victory condition, one involving being the sole survivor--so he'd like to survive tonight, and get you lynched tomorrow.

If he doesn't want to get killed he should vote with us...

Eh, not a fan of detectives. Particularly not ones who can find the godfather. That's kind of the appeal of having a godfather in a game.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 221
04-02-2009 10:01 PM ET (US)

Because khaan likes being the epicenter of power and he's threatened to out me if I kill him.

Personally I'm debating doing just that if he doesn't play along this round.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 220
04-02-2009 09:47 PM ET (US)

This is so silly. If we have the majority vote what are we messing around for?

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 219
04-02-2009 07:47 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 07:56 PM
khaan has just brought up some scenarios of what might happen if Sasaki gets lynched. Depending if we keep this line of conversation going, I think I'll be able to tell whether he's seen the Quicktopic or not.

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Shinseikhaan: oh
Shinseikhaan: make sure to reveal your quicktopic when this is finished
Shinseikhaan: I wanna see it

Hahahahahaha, this game really needs to end.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 218
04-02-2009 07:41 PM ET (US)

hmm lol I think khaan may have been coy with me earlier because he hadn't seen the quicktopic to know for sure that I was mafia. Pever you should clarify on that...the "sweatdrop" implies you did send it.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 217
04-02-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)

'kay, khaan *says* he's going to change over to El D sometime later after I let him know I'd be around at the deadline to make a final judgment call. We'll see if he follows up on his promise.

pever, if you read this before you end things, an answer to my question in #212 would be wonderful.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 216
04-02-2009 07:05 PM ET (US)

Oh no, I know. Just making a dry joke.

Well, Lord Winter's in and voting for Sasaki. Time to PM khaan.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 215
04-02-2009 06:19 PM ET (US)

Well, pever didn't actually say that he sent it to him. Thing is though, if hosts do that, the mafia are just going to make their own quicktopic and not let the host enjoy reading it as the game progresses.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 214
04-02-2009 06:00 PM ET (US)

Next time I'm mafia, I'm resorting to emails.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 213
04-02-2009 05:14 PM ET (US)

hahahaha...if that's case I'm sure he's vastly enjoyed all our speculation.

Anyway...khaan if you're reading this, take the last few posts as a "suggestion" that you vote for el diablo.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 212
04-02-2009 05:14 PM ET (US)

pever, can you confirm if the round will end exactly on the hour?
pevergreen 211
04-02-2009 04:57 PM ET (US)


On that note...I'll laugh my ass off if it turns out pever gave him the link to our quicktopic when we accepted him as an ally.


:sweatdrop:
Sasaki 210
04-02-2009 04:34 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 04:41 PM
Shoot the craven cur down in the gutter while he flees inishmore like the sewer rat that he is.

On that note...I'll laugh my ass off if it turns out pever gave him the link to our quicktopic when we accepted him as an ally.

eh, if he votes with us today and is just voting you for now to be inscrutable, I'll say let him live. edit: except of course, we don't know his exact role.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 209
04-02-2009 04:18 PM ET (US)

Well, khaan's dead either way. Even if El Diablo's lynched this round, I'm making it a point to pever to kill him off anyway. Lousy deadweight.
Sasaki 208
04-02-2009 03:56 PM ET (US)

Well, I doubt any of the others will be online then. And last night should have proven I know how to get my vote in right before deadline. Pizza not being in time had nothing to do with his "rusty trigger finger" lol...

If khaan's victory condition is survival, the way that usually works is that they don't get killed in an endgame scenario. Don't see why he wouldn't vote for el diablo though. If he comes online ask him to switch.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 207
04-02-2009 03:30 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 03:46 PM
Sasaki, you should switch your vote off El Diablo "sort of" before the deadline and then switch it back. That way if anyone's on they'll think it's your final switch.

-edit- preferably on me, just in case there is a backfire.
Sasaki 206
04-02-2009 03:05 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 03:08 PM
Well, getting a vote from someone who knows your role through investigation doesn't count.

If LW votes el diablo, we win with your vote switch. If he doesn't show up, we win with your vote switch. If he votes for me, tell khaan that you'll kill him tonight if he doesn't switch votes to el diablo. Don't believe khaan is on our side personally. You can tell khaan that if I get lynched you'll have to kill him because it's know that he isn't the godfather. He should realize that...was being coy in pm's earlier today.

However...don't be hasty in threatening him. He could have the chat log saved.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 205
04-02-2009 02:16 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 02:19 PM
Dance, puppets, dance. Muahahahaha.

I'm just mad at khaan right now - I wanted to go through the game without getting a single vote. And I'm still not sure about his true identity. And he won't go on Steam. Argh.

I'll most likely be on to do a last-second vote switch too.

Current vote count:
Sasaki: 1 (GH)
El Diablo: 1 (Sasaki)
GH: 1 (khaan)
Not voting: 2 (El Diablo, Winter)

I think if Winter shows up he'll vote for El D.
Sasaki 204
04-02-2009 01:53 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-02-2009 01:53 PM
"If Sasaki is voting El Diablo, El Diablo probably is his Godfather."

When will people learn rule #1? :D
GHPerson was signed in when posted 203
04-02-2009 08:44 AM ET (US)

Reeeallllly subtle game commentary indeed, haha.

khaan has been annoyingly offline.
pevergreen 202
04-02-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)

just a warning, after the night phase, I'm stealing from GH and doing false endings, so don't be confused.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 201
04-01-2009 05:10 PM ET (US)

"not my fault about australia"

Oh, I don't mind too much. Quite enjoyed dropping the vote change with 2 seconds to spare. Not fast enough pizza, not fast enough.

I see. Makes for a fun finish. Though if khaan is voting our way we aren't in any danger.

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pevergreen 200
04-01-2009 04:57 PM ET (US)

not my fault about australia

Also, after an hour of discussion amongst myself and 3 neutral people, it was determined that khaan does not count towards your total, so you need to get 4 people left, so survive this day phase, then the suspense night, then you win.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 199
04-01-2009 04:54 PM ET (US)

Included some reaaally subtle game commentary in the LG kill, we'll see if anyone catches it...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 198
04-01-2009 02:50 PM ET (US)

Manipulation City over here. This last round could be fun.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 197
04-01-2009 11:54 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-01-2009 08:06 PM
"El Diablo DID NOT WANT TO SWITCH HIS VOTE OFF OF BOUDICA.




El Diablo is your man."

bahahaha!

"You up for a last-second deadline pusher if it comes down to that?"

pever and his time zones. Although I may be sleepy enough after last night to get in a good nights sleep Before 4 am.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 196
04-01-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)

It's Wednesday now.

Day phase begins early Thursday morning (4AM my time). Day phase ends early Friday morning.

My only class on Friday is at 3:35 - I can go to bed as late as I want. You up for a last-second deadline pusher if it comes down to that?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 195
04-01-2009 11:20 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-01-2009 11:25 AM
I'll talk to him.

I'm thinking the town will go for the safe play next round and lynch you, TBH. If this does happen then I'd feel safer with two known quantities (Winter and El D as the scapegoat) than with khaan essentially deciding the game.

-edit- All right, ATPG's doing our work for us. Drown everybody out!
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 194
04-01-2009 11:12 AM ET (US)

I'd rather lose to khaan than the town. Anyway...I'll probably stay out of voting. But really, there will be two townies and two of us, so it depends on khaan. It can't hurt to butter him up a bit in case his role gives him the option of joining us or winning on his own.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 193
04-01-2009 11:04 AM ET (US)

LG kill, push for an El Diablo lynch. I think Winter will be more malleable to this prospect.

If the game still doesn't end (assuming you're not the lynch), I'll kill khaan. I'd rather lose to town than him.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 192
04-01-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 04-01-2009 10:44 AM
Game not over...ergo khaan is not our ally. Perhaps he's some sort of late blooming serial killer...huh. You should prod him a bit on his role.

Well, maybe it will be over once we've sent the kill in. I'm optimistic like that. Maybe khaan's goal really is just a survivor.

I'll kill LittleGrizzly.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 191
04-01-2009 04:09 AM ET (US)

I'm disappointed. The wimpy IRA didn't have the guts to push the deadline, they tied it up with a good 4 minutes to spare. Anyway...if khaan is on our side we win. Else, el diablo is the best choice for lynch, since he voted me and then switched to boudica.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 190
03-31-2009 11:56 PM ET (US)

Well, you're not hitting me at all. But frankly, I don't think any of the town is going to bother looking into it too closely.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 189
03-31-2009 10:39 PM ET (US)

hmm, trying not to overdo it in my pushing lynches other than boudica. Hard to tell though.

Yup, Jane Austen.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 188
03-31-2009 08:17 PM ET (US)

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You said you plagiarized Jane Austen, right? I think I'll try Charlotte Bronte for my kill.

-edit- just read Seamus's post. Good thing you got that early kill in. Wonder if Andres is ripping ATPG/Diana a new one in the IRA Quicktopic.
Sasaki 187
03-31-2009 06:11 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-31-2009 06:25 PM
the movement seems to be to lynch me and boudica today. As long as it isn't a tie we should be good.

Actually...even if it is a tie. 9 alive. if diana, pizza, me and boudica all get killed, and you kill someone tonight, that leaves 4 alive. As long as khaan is really an ally...
GHPerson was signed in when posted 186
03-31-2009 05:41 PM ET (US)

Actually, this game's starting to remind me a bit of Godfather 2 with our hopeful lynch line-up. In that game it was Seamus (alleged mafioso of rival faction), CR (person who everybody thought was the GF who we threw under the bus) and then finally Myrddraal (grunt, but better than the GF).

Hopefully this time it'll go LG-boudica-you, although this time we have a round or so's advantage.

Vindication, finally?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 185
03-31-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)

Oh man, there's going to be fireworks at the end of this one. If ATPG's telling the truth, nobody will ever want to work with him as mafioso again.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 184
03-31-2009 03:26 PM ET (US)

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Now pizza is claiming diana as godfather...heh. I don't agree with him blaming it on the rule though. Diana was doomed from the moment pizza was caught as mafia.

We should still lynch little grizzly though.

I don't understand pizza. I would be much happier if this is a plot to save LG. Otherwise he revealed himself and diana on the basis of my pretense that boudica was my godfather.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 183
03-31-2009 03:09 PM ET (US)

The big wild card is still khaan of course...My hope is that he goes over to our side once the irish are removed.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 182
03-31-2009 02:52 PM ET (US)

Yeah, but I LG is more likely to be the GF than boudica.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 181
03-31-2009 02:48 PM ET (US)

Blah... but that can be just as easily accomplished with a Diana kill and a boudica lynch.

Not like I care, since you'll still be alive, but still.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 180
03-31-2009 02:35 PM ET (US)

hmm that's true. Just make sure your arguments support lynching who you want to lynch. I would say it's important to guarantee as much as possible removing one godfather, hence diana kill and LG lynch being the best move.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 179
03-31-2009 02:26 PM ET (US)

I don't want to be joined at the hip with you... once the town realizes that boudica is innocent, they'll be looking for other connections with you. Enter me.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 178
03-31-2009 02:24 PM ET (US)

It's true that we should kill diana regardless...I just wonder if it's better for you to keep a bit quieter about grand conclusions. Maybe you should go with the line "pizza is admitting his guilt, we should lynch LG and kill diana".

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 177
03-31-2009 02:14 PM ET (US)

I'm about to post in the thread naming you and Pizza as grunts and your possible Godfathers. I'll say that there's two possible IRA GFs (Diana and LG) and one English GF.

Therefore, my conclusion will be that we should kill Diana regardless and get either LG or boudica lynched.

Accurate?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 176
03-31-2009 02:11 PM ET (US)

He's just happy to have have discovered that boudica was the english godfather.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 175
03-31-2009 01:53 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-31-2009 01:58 PM
Hmm...

Plus it would explain the Life/Death thing that pever's doing.

God, I love and hate endgames.

-edit- the trick is to stay cerebral through it. ATPG's finally cranked up the merry-go-round, and it shows.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 174
03-31-2009 01:48 PM ET (US)

I'm a bit worried about diana. If she got chosen as godfather she'd choose pizza guy as a grunt for sure.

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GH 173
03-31-2009 01:44 PM ET (US)

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IF LG IS LYNCHED:
Kill El Diablo at night. We're probably the sole remaining mafia faction now (Pizzaguy flees). Lynch boudica.

IF BOUDICA IS LYNCHED:
Kill LG early at night. The IRA will probably kill you so make sure you get your kill in early. This is what I'm worried about, as it will be me, khaan, El Diablo, Diana, and Lord Winter IIRC. Maybe you. I'll probably push for an El Diablo lynch, or possibly you depending on circumstances. We do not want this to happen.

IF SASAKI IS LYNCHED:
I kill LG, IRA kills boudica. Don't have to worry about the order. I push for El D.

IF A COMBINATION IS LYNCHED:
If LG is part of the combination, we kill a lurker. Otherwise, we kill LG. If boudica happens to be alive we push for her.

Naturally, if khaan is on our side and can actually kill (doubtful) this changes the variables. I think our best hope is to push for a solo LG lynching. However, this will kind of be difficult to achieve as the only ones that are voting him for the moment are you and I.

The worst possible combination would be a Sasaki/boudica double lynch.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 172
03-31-2009 01:36 PM ET (US)

When the godfather is lynched, their henchmen flee. Lynch LG, kill one someone at night...we are down to six. If khaan is on our side we win...otherwise we lynch boudica.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 171
03-31-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)

Okay, don't forget that our goal is to outlast town as well as mafia. If this round turns into an apocalyptic bloodbath then there will be a bunch of lurkers left... and me.

I think we should try to mess up the lynch tally at the end so that only Pizza is lynched. IRA whacks boudica at night, we hit a lurker. Lynch LG the next day.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 170
03-31-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)

Yes...now I must argue against a tie. Because I would not want my godfather in a tie.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 169
03-31-2009 01:23 PM ET (US)

Pizza: "Boudica is your Godfather."

Game... set...
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 168
03-31-2009 01:21 PM ET (US)

Well the way I am posting..."LG and boudica are the likely godfathers, oh wait let me defend boudica here, yup the two of them are most likely, oh look, I'm voting for littlegrizzly" should implicate boudica...lynching those two + pizza fleeing when his godfather gets killed should be an instant win situation. If messuir "welsh boxer" is on our side.

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GH 167
03-31-2009 01:18 PM ET (US)

Any triple lynch not involving me would be amazing. We just need to make sure to leave enough lynchbait targets left alive to put the finger on afterwards.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 166
03-31-2009 01:14 PM ET (US)

hmm, I think everyone will believe that that pizza and I are the two grunts.

I just have to swing so that they think that boudica is my godfather. Then we can lynch boudica and LG.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 165
03-31-2009 12:06 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-31-2009 12:15 PM
heh. I literally have no case on who the english mafia might be. I am, however, perfectly content to be seen as the english grunt as long as the believe boudica is my godfather. Lynching LG and boudica together could win us the game. Would really like boudica to be lynched. The round where she and pizza are tied has me worried.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 164
03-31-2009 10:57 AM ET (US)

Bite your tongue. It's when people seem fairly safe that things go wrong.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 163
03-31-2009 10:47 AM ET (US)

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Interesting. You seem to be IN HORRIBLE DANGER.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 162
03-31-2009 09:50 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-31-2009 09:51 AM
Hmm, too early to tell yet. My vote is to tell him to "combine forces" and then we'll go the other way. I'm willing to sacrifice khaan at this point.

-edit- especially since nowhere in the Role PM he quoted to me did it mention any kind of name other than "Protestant Sympathizer"
Ituralde 161
03-31-2009 09:38 AM ET (US)

Another one from Andres:

'khaan seems to be a pro-town role. Any idea why the attempt could have failed?

Combine forces to take him out or do you guys give it another try to see if you're more lucky, while we off somebody else?

Cheers,

Andres
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 160
03-31-2009 04:39 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-31-2009 04:43 AM
hmm very interesting. Khaan is going to get lynched today I believe. What with andres claiming that godfathers can survive a kill attempt...

Also, I believe pizza guy is guilty. LG could still be the godfather though...in fact it fits with pizza's cop out "I just don't see the case on LG" and with LG protecting pizza guy all game. The kill choices fit pizza to a T. Suspicious of seamus--attempt on seamus. Mega suspicious of reenk--reenk gets killed. Suspicious of khaan, attempt on khaan. It was clear from the start that he'd read the wikipedia article which pever sent us. And his general attitude...less wild reconsidering of himself and others than in the other games.

However--I can see myself getting into a huge amount of trouble if I try to bring this accusation in thread. Because I don't think I can hide the fact that I'm only looking for Irish mafia. lol.

Ok. My plan is to do a big summary, and accuse khaan of being the english godfather and lord winter of being oswald, along with LG as the irish godfather and pizza as brendan.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 159
03-30-2009 11:43 PM ET (US)

yes...keyboard is annoying me. the d,l,n,t,u, , and backspace keys short out or something. Then work. Then break.


"Yeah, but a certain amount (? don't know what eeme was) of luck is what makes games fun. Either way it's been a good game. Pleased that I get to off donney at least"

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 158
03-30-2009 07:51 PM ET (US)

Hahahaha

I got this out of it: "Yeah ??????????????? is what makes games fun. Either way it's been a good game. Pleased that I'd ?? off Joey at least."
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 157
03-30-2009 07:37 PM ET (US)

Yeah b a creai eeme of ck is wha makes games f. Eiher way i's bee a goo game. Pase ha I' ge o off oey a eas.

Sorry my keyboar is messe p. Hope ha was a eas somewha ersabe

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 156
03-30-2009 07:19 PM ET (US)

I have a very bad feeling about tonight.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 155
03-30-2009 04:08 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-30-2009 04:11 PM
Askthepizzaguy
LittleGrizzly--innocent result
GeneralHankerchief--english godfather
Sasaki Kojiro--english henchman
Lord Winter
Seamus--donney
serierkhaan--possible ally
Diana Abnoba
boudica--innocent result
Sigurd--Wog
El Diablo--innocent result

diana--lord winter--pizza. One of these three is the grunt. If I had to pick, I'd say lord winter, for his fake lurking despite having read carefully dealio. I'd pick LG for godfather. Ideally, none of us will die tonight. If so, there will be 8 alive, and lynching the enemy godfather will win the game (if khaan is our ally). If we lynch the grunt it's possible the "kill in first" rule still applies and we can hit the godfather before he kills us...

Of course, we could also lynch a townie and two more townies could die at night, leaving khaan to decide the game. Lol.

Depending on who dies...might push a lord winter lynch.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 154
03-30-2009 03:37 PM ET (US)

Ah, right, I forgot Reenk died.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 153
03-30-2009 03:35 PM ET (US)

But seamus said he was going to investigate me next...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 152
03-30-2009 02:42 PM ET (US)

I mean that if Seamus says he's going to investigate somebody, he's not going to investigate somebody else instead to throw people off. This is especially the case if he thinks he's going to die.
Ituralde 151
03-30-2009 02:34 PM ET (US)

I sent Andres the message saying we're killing Seamus btw.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 150
03-30-2009 02:16 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-30-2009 03:57 PM
hmm, don't know what you mean by switcheroo. But I think I'll stick with seamus, don't want him getting a result on me or khaan.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 149
03-30-2009 01:49 PM ET (US)

No, he hasn't. But he also posted that list before a lot of the whole current brouhaha happened. Plus, I don't believe Seamus is the person that would pull a switcheroo like that, especially if he thinks he's going down this round.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 148
03-30-2009 01:42 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-30-2009 01:42 PM
He posted a list of who he was going to investigate next and it was "reenk, sasaki, atpg". Has he been pm'ing you?

The kill I wrote is Seamus specific :/

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 147
03-30-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)

I think you should change it. Seamus, due to current events and his trust with Reenk, will investigate ATPG. He's of no threat to us even if he lives this round.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 146
03-30-2009 01:27 PM ET (US)

Seamus.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 145
03-30-2009 01:15 PM ET (US)

Sasaki: Who is your current kill victim?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 144
03-30-2009 12:21 PM ET (US)

I think I've succeeded in shifting some attention from you to me...

The double lynch is fantastic luck. It makes the numbers game a lot simpler, and davey getting lynched is a bonus. If there are two kills tonight we'll have 7 left tomorrow.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 143
03-30-2009 09:47 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-30-2009 09:49 AM
You should pm him back and say that we're taking out Seamus. Andres is just fishing to see if GH is the godfather.

Donney, davey and mairead are dead. The don't think GH is a protown role.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 142
03-30-2009 09:06 AM ET (US)

Interesting turn of events.

I would just not respond. We really need to take out the Godfather tonight. Sasaki, I suggest you take your kill off Seamus and put it on whoever you believe has the best chance of being the IRA Godfather. At this point, they are our greater enemies.
Ituralde 141
03-30-2009 05:32 AM ET (US)

I recieved the following PM from Andres today:

Hi Ituralde,

Seamus revealed as detective, so I assume your mafia family considers to take him out.

We have reasons to believe GH has a pro-town role as well (or he's the detective instead of Seamus).

Just so none of us wastes a kill... which mafia family is going to kill Seamus and which family is going to take out GeneralHankerchief?

Cheers,

Andres.
pevergreen 140
03-30-2009 04:44 AM ET (US)

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 139
03-30-2009 12:26 AM ET (US)

1130-1131 cracks me up.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 138
03-29-2009 11:37 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-29-2009 11:38 PM
Would prefer LG. Thing is, with boudica and LG both innocent, then it's hard to say that white_eyes thought I was attacking his henchmen. Then the tell goes away...

reenk, yes, that's what I mean...decides to defend white_eyes --> decides to attack you

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 137
03-29-2009 11:24 PM ET (US)

Personally I've learned not to believe anything Reenk says like that, whether he's mafia or town, no matter the context. Usually when I'm town I just ignore him.

Anyway, WE is actually convincing me that he's innocent. We may be going up the wrong track here.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 136
03-29-2009 11:02 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-29-2009 11:12 PM
Andres's accusation of LG evens it out. I can see LG as the irish godfather.

Reenk is just attacking you because of some thing he has with we's..."I know who he is, he's playing you but doesn't deserve to be killed"

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 135
03-29-2009 09:58 PM ET (US)

Well, trust Reenk to complicate things. All of a sudden we have a lot more at stake on White_eyes being GF.

Even if we're wrong I doubt he'll be a problem, though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 134
03-29-2009 06:06 PM ET (US)

hmm, ok, kill on Seamus sent in.

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pevergreen 133
03-29-2009 04:32 PM ET (US)


1) Does the detective get a result on the night that we kill him that he is allowed to share? I'll most likely do it off time, so if you're in before him, no.
2) When is Sigurd scheduled for WoG? *sigh* I guess end of the night phase.
3) When does khaan get a kill ability? I can't reveal anything about his role.

Nice pick with Andres though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 132
03-29-2009 04:11 PM ET (US)

Yeah, I knew he was referring to seamus as well. Didn't connect the dots with mairead-donney though...lol.

The day is a success at any rate.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 131
03-29-2009 04:02 PM ET (US)

And the bandwagon is on.

Reenk's constant reference to his Bible Killer ally (which is Seamus; they were partners in Mafia V when Seamus killed and left biblical quotes) could point to me once Seamus as he very well knows I know my history, but I'm not worried.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 130
03-29-2009 03:01 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-29-2009 03:05 PM
Yeah...that's why I want to know about the result. He seems to be getting them early. But, we have to be careful about assuming khaan is on our side.

13 alive. Let's say we kill seamus to be safe, WE's isn't the godfather, and sigurd get's wog'd. The irish target seamus as well, that would leave 10 alive. Now, to kill 4 more, we would have to lynch a townie, then kill the irish godfather and hope they don't kill one of us. Now, if we kill someone other than seamus, it gives us an extra shot at the godfather and we have 9 alive the final day...so we can lynch the godfather OR his grunt OR a townie and still have a chance at victory that night. Ugh, too many possibilities.

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Yes...it's much easier if WE's is the GF. Then we win with one more lynch, a sigurd WoG, and a khaan kill. The only way that khaan's role really makes sense is if he can choose sides.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 129
03-29-2009 02:54 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-29-2009 03:01 PM
I was thinking that if WE wasn't our man, we could take the risk, hope that the IRA offs Seamus, and concenrate on the below list, but we have to assume that they're totally in the dark.

Diana's twigged my radar for some time now. I suggest she go first, then FH.

-edit- though I really believe that WE is our guy. You'll note that EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the Lemur list is still alive.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 128
03-29-2009 02:12 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-29-2009 02:55 PM
Yes...I saw you were posting and hurried to make mine. Didn't think the timing would work out quite that well though, lol.

Well, we don't want to get to far ahead of ourselves by assuming WE's is the GF. He's acted odd, but the fact is boudica and LG aren't Irish grunts...so I don't know who I could have been pursuing that he would refer to.

QUESTIONS FOR PEVER:

1) Does the detective get a result on the night that we kill him that he is allowed to share?
2) When is Sigurd scheduled for WoG?
3) When does khaan get a kill ability?

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 127
03-29-2009 02:10 PM ET (US)

Hahaha, great timing on our White_eyes posts.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 126
03-29-2009 12:58 PM ET (US)

New Lemur PM:

"Night the Sixth, Boudica innocent"
GHPerson was signed in when posted 125
03-29-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)

Agreed.

I'm also going to get my White_eyes case going.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 124
03-29-2009 10:16 AM ET (US)

Amazed that they actually killed reenk. Mairead being gone is a major score. I bet they thought he was the godfather.

I'm more annoyed that my punchline got ruined than pleased by offing joey. Oh well...

Donny dies tonight, but how about this:

The rumour of the town was "I'm not Donney, I'm Davey! Boudica is innocent."

Seems seamus can have messages sent out as rumors. Well, he dies tonight.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 123
03-27-2009 11:39 PM ET (US)

Blah, not gonna be able to post it tonight. Too much to do still and I'm tired already.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 122
03-27-2009 08:59 PM ET (US)

So that means there's a distinct possibility of Seamus investigating both Godfathers on the first two turns... that's just insane.
pevergreen 121
03-27-2009 08:18 PM ET (US)

Grunts always come up guilty.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 120
03-27-2009 05:37 PM ET (US)

Well, it doesn't make too much sense to have it tied to activity. Would greatly weaken the detective.

Also, I don't think the detective would have sent the information out to people if 2/3 of the mafia showed up innocent.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 119
03-27-2009 05:29 PM ET (US)

I know this is reaching somewhat, but I still want to be cautious:

We're not sure of the Detective's particulars. Yes, I was found innocent, and Ituralde guilty, but that was on the one night he killed. If Seamus investigated Ituralde on an off night, there might have been an innocent result on him. Which means there's still a chance of him being grunt.

QUESTION TO PEVER: Can we get clarification on this?

Anyway, I think it goes without saying that we should give Pizza a breather next night phase :P
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 118
03-27-2009 05:26 PM ET (US)

Pizza's got himself all confused.

Anyway, here's how I see it. WE was found innocent by the detective and therefore can only be the godfather if he's mafia. He claims I've only been going after Irish killers while ignoring english ones. He would have no way of knowing who I was going after if he was a townie.

If he's mafia, we lynch the IRA godfather and they can't kill you.

If he's townie, he gets in major hot water for a suspicious comment, and it's revealed that you aren't the detective which should protect you at night.

Win-Win

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 117
03-27-2009 05:19 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 05:20 PM
Need to think about this.

If we think WE is Irish, then if I move to lynch him, my cover is blown as to how I nailed Ituralde. Additionally, names are revealed upon lynch, which means that there's no reason a PO'd IRA will off me for revenge (unless he's Godfather).

I think the better move would be for me and WE to play innocent with each other until later on. If he's truly a mafioso he will be lobbying for the IRA to leave me alive since he believes I'm wrapped around his little finger.

-edit- New quote of the game, courtesy of an ATPG PM:

"I've been convinced for a while you're a pro-town role, speaking on behalf of the detective. Ever since your Ituralde pick, which I wholeheartedly supported because he was acting as scummy as they came.

If you want me to back off Reenk, I will, without hesitation. You and Seamus are the only ones I am willing to listen to. I don't know if you're Donney or Davey or James or Joe or Jimmy or Jackie or Mairead herself, I don't care. My vote is your vote. Tell me where to move. I don't care if you're a basic townie; your instincts are too good.

Should I remove my vote from yoyoma?"
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 116
03-27-2009 03:41 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 03:47 PM
How does white_eyes know that boudica and LG aren't irish mafia?

hmmm, maybe he'd make a good kill. Or better yet if the pm is damning you could post it.

Really, that's very suspicious. No townie could say that I was only looking at irish killers. I think townie GH would be suspicious of it. White_eyes has been a bit off this game too. Your call whether to pm him for a little longer to get info, but it should be posted in thread with an accusation.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 115
03-27-2009 03:07 PM ET (US)

White_eyes is getting suspicious of you, Sasaki:

WE: I feel that Sasaki is a Godfather.....Proof other then "Sasaki is always guilty?":shrug: He has been focusing on the Irish killers.....but hardly touched the English ones....I also think he has Reenk as a grunt.....tough guys to get lynched without a detective reveal:wall:

GH: Personally, I'm surprised that Sasaki hasn't been investigated yet... unless he's the one that's been forwarding the results to Lemur.

Need to go back and check the thread. One does not simply accuse Sasaki without a good case. Although, the question is, if I go back and check and don't like what I see, do I use any evidence or just do what I did with Ituralde? :laugh4:
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 114
03-27-2009 01:44 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 01:55 PM
I think I'll kill pizza. I can see him being utterly convinced that reenk got rid of him and is getting away with it because "reenk is reenk".

LittleGrizz would probably be better. Abnoba might come under suspicion.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 113
03-27-2009 11:52 AM ET (US)

Hm, but we're not sure how much of that was Reenk or not.

Andres's usual style is one-line paragraphs with lots of ellipses.

I'm not sure of its relevance since it was his first game as mafia, but Andres tried to get a lot of the major players lynched in Mafia VI, namely you and Kommodus.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 112
03-27-2009 11:48 AM ET (US)

mmm how about the settlement? All of the brendan writeups seem to be a disguised style. Words deliberately put in lowercase etc. Eh, it's easy to overthink this sort of thing. Any kill is a good kill really. Tempted to go for LG though.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 111
03-27-2009 11:41 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 11:44 AM
If we ever get khaan to kill, I'll sic him on people on the Lemur list combined with troublesome town players that need removing but would look bad connected to us.

Will have to look more at Andres. He hasn't been mafia in a game I've been in for forever. Wish there was more of a baseline to base his current behavior off of.

-edit- I'm pretty sure Andres isn't Brendan. If he is, he's doing a damn good job at concealing his writing style.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 110
03-27-2009 11:31 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 11:32 AM
I think ATPG is pretty set on reenk. And the writeups aren't in your style. Actually, I plagiarize a good portion of them from Jane Austen novels, lol. If atpg's "google fu" was a little stronger he might have noticed that ;)

I'd agree with a diana kill...but it just seems like both the families are drawing a blank on finding other mafia. Look at the list of kills--not a single high profile player has been killed. I'm tempted to strike at andres.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 109
03-27-2009 11:05 AM ET (US)

Also, I think we should kill Diana next night. She's doing just enough not to get Wogged, and nobody's really looking into her.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 108
03-27-2009 10:47 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 11:00 AM
Current events = win.

This easily looks to be the type of round that the mafia can just take off. However, if it comes down to the endgame, it'll probably come back to bite me.

-edit- See, the problem with this kind of writeup analysis is that it could theoretically lead to me, heh. If ATPG decides to go with the "Reenk is being framed" route there are those two Wanax writeups I did at the end of GF3 that are just waiting for him.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 107
03-27-2009 09:09 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-27-2009 09:14 AM
Heh...atpg went whole hog after reenk as the author of the Oswald write ups.

"As the town gathered again in the morning, the talk was not of the murders, but of the current rumour. "Donney's alive and 'ere ta 'elp, watch 'is space"."

Hmm, wonder what this is about.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 106
03-26-2009 11:23 PM ET (US)

Lemur PM:

"Night the Fifth, Grizzly innocent"
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 105
03-26-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-26-2009 08:24 AM
Rotten luck with the offline/online time.

Mairead...should be killed.

As for directing seamus, might arouse his suspicions.

I will kill greyblades.

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Ituralde 104
03-26-2009 03:35 AM ET (US)

Sorry about that guys. My offline/online pattern was just wrong for this game. Had the arguments come earlier I would have gone for the Mairead claim but now there's not enough time left. I hope we'll at least gain something from it. I wish you the best of luck.

I shouldn't have reacted so spooked on GHs claim but I was already too focused on the Mairead claim and thought I could afford to look afraid of lynching to explain my later claim.

Oh well, it's been a pleasure playing with you two...
GHPerson was signed in when posted 103
03-26-2009 01:19 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-26-2009 01:31 AM
Ugh, this just doesn't feel right. I hope this is worth it in the end.

-edit- How do you guys feel about me initiating direct contact with Seamus and trying to influence his investigations?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 102
03-25-2009 04:48 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-25-2009 05:33 PM
The way seamus talks I would guarantee you he is the detective. So that's that settled.

Other thing though GH, you aren't getting any suspicion at all. The other family is going to think you are the detective...we can't take that risk. You should confess that lemur forwarded your results. Say you have to go and you don't want to risk ituralde not getting lynched.

Think we got some good distance between me and khaan today. Lousy distance between me and ituralde, but that had to be done.

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"I think those examples you gave were from the earlier part of the game, and I was talking about today's posts."

Contender for comment of the game...

but wait, a Challenger has arrived:

"In spite of all reasons to the contrary, I actually trust you.

I am going to regret this, I just know it."

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 101
03-25-2009 04:13 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-25-2009 04:33 PM
I've been dancing around with what I say about Ituralde. I figure if Ituralde and I go down and are shown to be mafia, you and khaan will be SET.

btw, Ituralde, I believe the time has come for the mairead claim.

On second thought, I think khaan is going to end up in hot water of this...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 100
03-25-2009 03:08 PM ET (US)

Good work Sasaki keeping the pressure on Grizz. Ituralde may just survive.

Also, khaan and I right now are having a chat about what kind of person would pick Ituralde as a grunt. It's quite funny.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 99
03-25-2009 12:11 PM ET (US)

hmm yes. Thing is, if seamus was the detective I don't see why he would make the effort to pretend not to be. Which could mean that the real detective is out there still.

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Ituralde 98
03-25-2009 11:57 AM ET (US)

My biggest problem will be that I might not be online until shortly before the lynch. I'll probably be asleep by the time the serious arguments could be levelled against me. I'll see how it goes and try to come back as often as possible.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 97
03-25-2009 11:53 AM ET (US)

Alternatively, if an Ituralde lynch fails to gain momentum, the real detective could be drawn out.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 96
03-25-2009 11:40 AM ET (US)

I'll be fine. In The Scourge of Ephesus I was able to survive for more than half the game after revealing as the doctor early on because I looked scummy enough to get the mafia to try to gamble and lynch me.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 95
03-25-2009 11:36 AM ET (US)

I'm worried about you becoming a target for the other mafia. If it looks like you could be the detective you could get killed.

It might be the best move to reveal that lemur has been forwarding results to you, but that you aren't sure of the legality or legitimacy of the results--because technically as a townie you couldn't be sure they were accurate. You could put it together in a nice "townie who believes in openness" package.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 94
03-25-2009 11:29 AM ET (US)

I'm going to look like a guy who knows something more than the rest of the general town, while at the same time not implication. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to toe the line enough to get out of this okay.

BTW, I'm PMing khaan now to see if he got anything from pever.
Ituralde 93
03-25-2009 10:26 AM ET (US)

Just trying to react in a manner I would if someone who hasn't said much so far in the game started a bandwagon on me without reasons. Let's see how this develops.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 92
03-25-2009 10:05 AM ET (US)

Lurking is probably the answer.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 91
03-25-2009 09:58 AM ET (US)

I wouldn't try to distance if I were you guys. It has a big chance of backfiring.

I for one, have to defend ituralde and doubt GH. It will make me look scummy, but better that than it look like I knew that a detective had a guilty on him...and ituralde, you can't look like you know a detective has a guilty on you either. That could implicated GH.

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Ituralde 90
03-25-2009 09:42 AM ET (US)

What I wanted to suggest is what GH is doing now, I guess. If the town lynch me GHs bandwagons might be trusted. It could also make him suspicious.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 89
03-25-2009 08:13 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-25-2009 08:54 AM
Well, we don't want to pass one of us off as detective because then the other mafia will kill us.

You should pull out the mairead claim either right after a definite detective claim, or if it looks like you're sure to be lynched.

You should say you kept protecting seamus because of the succesful protection, but that you wanted to know who you were protecting...you haven't read the play plot.

You show up as guilty because you can only win if all the town dies and your character wants to be a terrorist. However all you have is protection ability, you can't kill.

Trying to pass yourself off as innocent won't work...

From the write ups, khaan seems to have joined us.
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3 IRA mafia--other guys
3 brits--us
2 other roles--khaan, padraic
3 protown--donney, davey, mairead

So, seamus is still the detective I take it...working by means of the cat or something? Pever implies that he reassigned the davey role to someone.

hmmph:

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
shlin28
LittleGrizzly
Reenk Roink
Lord Winter
Factionheir
yoyoma1910
Diana Abnoba
boudica
Sigurd
greyblades

List of potential enemy grunts...little grizzly is someone I would be tempted to pick. He's seemed a little scummy too. Will probably go after him in the thread if given a chance.

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Ituralde 88
03-25-2009 07:10 AM ET (US)

Another idea just came to me. Could we use this situation to pass one of the remaining ones of as detective? After all me being Mafia would prove that you are right if the town lynches me and we could then use the towns trust against them.
Ituralde 87
03-25-2009 04:58 AM ET (US)

Also what is an El Diablo lynch?
Ituralde 86
03-25-2009 04:57 AM ET (US)

Argh.. I was afraid something like this might happen. I was thinking about this when I wrote the kill that I might only be guilty if I murder. Ah well...

I'll try my best and reserve the Mairead claim for last. Any and all help is appreciated though. Outside the thread of course, don't intend to pull you down with me.

List of people I protected:
Night 0: Not yet able to protect
Night 1: Sasaki Kojiro - known player, protected him first last time I was doctor and it worked
Night 2: Seamus Fermanagh - also known player, irish name
Night 3: Seamus Fermanagh - obviously has a role, might be pro-town might not be, that's why I wanted him to reveal in the thread
Night 4: Mh... Seamus again or somebody else, can't decide yet... - either same reason as Night 3, or another shot in the dark

Pro-Town now since obviously my victory conditions are screwed with Padraic being dead. Guilty possibly a result of me shooting at Seamus. Or should I not acknowledge the detective as being real and present it as a Mafia plot to off me? Also the British might just kill me come the next Night phase. We'll see how long I last.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 85
03-24-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)

"Yes...you can only win with the town, but you are also the one protecting seamus. Just don't pull it out until either a detective claim is made or it looks like you will be lynched. Oh...and say you don't get result pm's from pever and have a list of who you protected and why. -edit- have the list but don't post it right away."

QFT. You got put in a very bad position but with luck this will set us up for the rest of the game.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 84
03-24-2009 10:58 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-24-2009 11:04 PM
Nasty. I don't believe what Ituralde did was suspicious and said so in thread, which I'll have to back up tomorrow, but can't defend him to harshly because then I'll look guilty...may have to lurk a bit.

Ituralde, you should use the mairead claim.

Hello [your name]. :bow:

You have been randomly selected as Mairead, Davey's younger sister.

Though only 16, you dream of joining the IRA and becoming a terrorist. Your hero is Padraic, who had to leave the IRA because he was too radical. Nevertheless, you worship Padraic and can't wait to see him.

Each night, you may choose to protect one person with your air rifle. After day 3 when he Padraic arrives, you will be informed who he is and may attempt to join with him. If he accepts you two will fall in love, and your fates will be tied together.

To win, you must be the only two left alive.

Good luck.
:bow:
pevergreen


Yes...you can only win with the town, but you are also the one protecting seamus. Just don't pull it out until either a detective claim is made or it looks like you will be lynched. Oh...and say you don't get result pm's from pever and have a list of who you protected and why. -edit- have the list but don't post it right away.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 83
03-24-2009 10:54 PM ET (US)

Oh yeah.

I've been having a conversation with White_eyes, leading him in a few directions. Basically, I have to drive for Ituralde hard. You guys can do what you wish. Although we might be able to set up an El Diablo lynch in a round or two.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 82
03-24-2009 10:50 PM ET (US)

This is why having both a doctor and a detective is annoying...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 81
03-24-2009 09:53 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-24-2009 10:01 PM
Dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit.

PM from Lemur:

"Night the Fourth, Ituralde guilty, scum, faction not known."

Follow-up from White_eyes:

"We have a guilty one......should one of us claim detective and get him lynch?"

Sorry Ituralde, not much I can do here. I think you're gonna have to go.

-edit- I'll bet you anything that Seamus is feeding Lemur information. Holy crap we really need to kill Mairead.
Ituralde 80
03-24-2009 10:08 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-24-2009 10:09 AM
I sent in the kill for YLC.

And I was only trying to read something to get back to sleep this morning. Ah well, nature of Mafia games, no matter what you do someone will build a case out of it.
p 79
03-24-2009 03:40 AM ET (US)

only thing I am allowed to comment on is you saying gaelic is davey.

He isnt.

Good. No rule infractions here.

Carry on gentlemen.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 78
03-23-2009 10:07 PM ET (US)

Okay, YLC's fine by me.
Ituralde 77
03-23-2009 09:59 PM ET (US)

I was thinking of YLC myself to be honest. Just a hunch though, no hard facts I could point to.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 76
03-23-2009 07:52 PM ET (US)

YLC might be good. I wonder if his claims that mairead is a serial killer and the way he keeps voting for seamus are him covering for his role. Will read further.

Greyblades...seems really innocent to me. Which is fine for kill, but we ought to pursue roles.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 75
03-23-2009 07:31 PM ET (US)

My personal preference is Greyblades. But there's no clear-cut choice this round.
Ituralde 74
03-23-2009 07:24 PM ET (US)

Sounds promising.

So am I still good for the kill? Any preference on who to kill? Get the one that's left from boudica or Ares?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 73
03-23-2009 06:18 PM ET (US)

Oh no, I like it. I'd rather have a little suspicion on me with nothing to back it up then to get to late game and have people pull out the "but...he's just TOO innocent!!" card...that one's a killer.

A real detective would have either claimed, or stopped trying to telegraph it after round one. Khaan remembers how closely we pored over his posts in GF3, he'd be patient enough to wait until he got killed and it was revealed he had a rolename. Plus...with seamus as donney, I'm thinking he could derail any "khaan is detective" talk.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 72
03-23-2009 06:09 PM ET (US)

Haha, probably. Sasaki, do you have a preference as to if I say anything about that? I'm fine with just letting him go - town has a lot of other suspects.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 71
03-23-2009 06:06 PM ET (US)

Funny thing is, if he'd pretended in the thread to have a guilty on someone else other than me, we'd probably have killed him...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 70
03-23-2009 05:56 PM ET (US)

I think I know the way to trigger khaan's ability - PM pever and let him know that we're allies. I'll try that this night round.

I'll feed him targets until the last round in which I'll take him out personally to be safe. This way we're safe letting both Ituralde and Sasaki killing until then.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 69
03-23-2009 05:48 PM ET (US)

hmm, bugs me a little that he gave 4 investigation results when we've had three nights, but it's possible he got one in before day one and it doesn't make sense as a mistake.

No need to tell him our names...though since he knows you he knows most everything. If he can find both godfathers and choose who to ally to, or if he just made the role up...well...cat's out of the bag.

If he's telling the truth and can get us an extra kill at night, then he's an awesome ally and we should treat him as such. That would make the final round have 11 alive instead of 8, if we all survive and get rid of the IRA--who should become our primary target I think. Seamus must be the pro-town detective in this case.

Having a protestant sympathizer but no catholic one would seem to unbalance the game a bit.

3 pro town--donney(seamus), davey(gaelic--sorry pever), maireed (would like to kill).
2 other--(padraic, khaan)

Now, perhaps donney can only find the brit grunts...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 68
03-23-2009 05:31 PM ET (US)

Transcript (I apologize for the length):

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GeneralHankerchief: all right khaan, what's up?
seireikhaan: quite simple
seireikhaan: I have discovered you
seireikhaan: I assume you were PM'ing your lackey?
GeneralHankerchief: again, I'm just a standard townie
GeneralHankerchief: and even if I were, I would be using quicktopic :P
seireikhaan: again, I know that's pure falsehood
seireikhaan: see- I am the only person in this game who can find a godfather, and just one at that
GeneralHankerchief: role PM in 30 seconds or you're lying.
seireikhaan: alright
seireikhaan: sent

***PM***

Hello 'khaan. :bow:

You have been randomly selected as the Protestant Sympathizer

In case you don't know, your responsibilities are as follows:
1. Win (Obviously, methods given later)
2. Find the British Godfather
3. Ally with him/her.

You will win if the mafia win (outnumber town) or if you are the last one standing.

You have the ability to investigate at night for the British Godfather. You must ally with the British. You will also be granted the ability to kill once per night, at a certain stage in the game. This stage is unknown to you.

Good luck.
:bow:
pevergreen

GeneralHankerchief: you know... I claimed about the same role to CR in Spirit Mafia
seireikhaan: i know
seireikhaan: not my fault
GeneralHankerchief: then you'll excuse me for being paranoid about you
seireikhaan: well, this is mafia :P
seireikhaan: paranoia is a big part, obviously
seireikhaan: but that's what I was given
GeneralHankerchief: it's a very simple thing to change a certain word or two of a PM, especially when one sent it in two minutes and not 30 seconds
seireikhaan: what can I say, I got big PM box(500)
seireikhaan: and I'm a slob
GeneralHankerchief: understood... but still.
seireikhaan: granted, I still got about 250 of it free :P
GeneralHankerchief: so, if I'm not mistaken, there's not much you can do for me until the certain point in the game comes
seireikhaan: I had no idea AM's got such giant boxes
seireikhaan: pretty much
GeneralHankerchief: okay
GeneralHankerchief: I surmise that, if you are lying, you're unable to kill me
seireikhaan: most likely, you won't be seeing anything new for a few days
GeneralHankerchief: because if that were true, you would have done so already and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now
seireikhaan: pretty much
seireikhaan: if I was anti-godfather and had the ability to kill you, I would have done it :P
GeneralHankerchief: right
GeneralHankerchief: however, you might be able to get my grunts
seireikhaan: ah, but that's the thing
seireikhaan: I can only investigate for the godfather
seireikhaan: I have no idea who your grunts are
GeneralHankerchief: but if I tell you them...
seireikhaan: you could simply give me fake names and see if they die
GeneralHankerchief: pointless now that you made the suggestion :P
seireikhaan: hehe
GeneralHankerchief: okay, here's how we'll do it:
seireikhaan: alright then
seireikhaan: woop, didn't notice the colon
GeneralHankerchief: I'm not going to give you access to our secret lair, or the names of my grunts
seireikhaan: ok
GeneralHankerchief: in return, I'll tell my grunts to stay away from you
seireikhaan: I suppose that could work
GeneralHankerchief: when the time comes in which you're useful, I'll send down the kill orders for the night
seireikhaan: ok
seireikhaan: I must say, it has been interesting re-reading the thread and seeing what you post
seireikhaan: you're mafioso skillz have improved
GeneralHankerchief: hehe, thanks
GeneralHankerchief: so I assume you investigated me last night?
seireikhaan: yes
GeneralHankerchief: who did you hit before that?
seireikhaan: first night
seireikhaan: shlin
seireikhaan: second night
seireikhaan: boudica
seireikhaan: then YLC
seireikhaan: and you
seireikhaan: I would like YLC to die, btw
GeneralHankerchief: can I see pever's feedback PM for somebody besides me and then me as well?
seireikhaan: he's making fun of my colorfs
GeneralHankerchief: khaan?
seireikhaan: hold on
seireikhaan: sent


You found Shlin28 alone in his room drunk. Clearly a pleb.

seireikhaan: my roommate's bugging me, sorry
GeneralHankerchief: understood
GeneralHankerchief: so why does it say "Inishmore Night Two" when you said you investigated shlin the first night?
seireikhaan: because I made that up, of course
GeneralHankerchief: okay
GeneralHankerchief: PM for when you investigated me, please


You creeped around GeneralHankerchief's house, and found many official-looking papers. You also find a Union Jack posted to the wall. Clearly, he isn't a normal townsperson.

GeneralHankerchief: so what do you tell pever now that you've found me?
seireikhaan: not sure
seireikhaan: never said
seireikhaan: I PM's him this afternoon, haven't gotten anything back
GeneralHankerchief: okay, please let me know whenever he does
seireikhaan: alright

~~~~~~~~~~

To surmise I think we should let him do his thing for us when the time comes for maybe a round or two, and then kill him just to be sure.

I also think that because of this, we should save Ituralde for when the time comes to kill khaan. Maybe let Oswald kill everybody up until then (although Ituralde can still write the kills if he wishes).

What do you guys think of this?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 67
03-23-2009 05:12 PM ET (US)

Interesting...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 66
03-23-2009 04:53 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-23-2009 05:00 PM
New exchange:

khaan: "Dear dear, you don't think I'd be silly enough to do that again, now do you? I ain't dumb. I'll ask you once more, dear GodPappy, do the Brits require my help?"

GH: "I'm just a regular townie, sorry."

~~~~~

If he tells me to stop playing dumb and that Sasaki and Ituralde are my henchmen, I'll let him in. Otherwise, he's rolefishing.

-edit- we're talking on Steam. I'll post the transcript once we're done.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 65
03-23-2009 04:13 PM ET (US)

PM from khaan:

"Tell me, do you feel you need any help, Pappy?"

My response:

"khaan, you know that this kind of thing got you in trouble in GF3."

I'll keep you guys updated.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 64
03-23-2009 01:28 PM ET (US)

I think the IRA might have taken care of our Lemur problem for us by offing CA. He was another one that had a high probability.

Anyway, this whole thing significantly decreases khaan's chances of being Detective and thus having anything solid on Sasaki.

FWIW, Greyblades was my third choice as grunt behind you two guys. Maybe somebody else was thinking along the same lines.
Ituralde 63
03-23-2009 11:32 AM ET (US)

I'm gonna do the next writeup then. Any ideas on who to kill?
YLC piling on Seamus seems a little strange.

Thanks for the heads up. I try to play like I were town. But then I don't even remember what it's like anymore so I pretty much fumble in the dark. Try my best not to mess everything up though. :D
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 62
03-23-2009 10:10 AM ET (US)

Nah, whoever ends up writing the kill can send it in.

Don't worry about pizza's vote, I'd peg your in thread behavior as innocent seeming.

It's seems likely that seamus is the detective. Unless mairead is counted as "other" instead of protown.

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Ituralde 61
03-23-2009 06:03 AM ET (US)

I have no clue whether I could disguise my writing, or whether someone will recognize my writing or not, to be honest. I just thought it might be something more for the town to talk about if we throw another name in there.

Maybe you just forward me the writeup and I pass it along to pever with my name?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 60
03-22-2009 09:59 PM ET (US)

Lemur still. He confirmed it was for this game though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 59
03-22-2009 09:51 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-22-2009 09:52 PM
The pm was from pevergreen?

-edit-

Polemists and gaelic cowboy are wog today. And psychonaut committing suicide I believe. Good for us.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 58
03-22-2009 09:26 PM ET (US)

New PM:

Pevergreen, Night the Third, El D innocent
GHPerson was signed in when posted 57
03-22-2009 03:11 PM ET (US)

Well, White_eyes is at least somewhat in the know.

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did you get a PM, forwarded to you??? I got one and it said you and I are innocent......:inquisitive: it was forwarded by someone a modreatere....:book:

Yeah, Lemur, right? I wasn't even sure if it was for this game or not. :laugh4:

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I guess going for Alexander is okay this time, since it'll be very difficult to trace him back to us. The only one that might say anything is White_eyes himself (and possibly Alexander, if he's our man).

I still say leave him alive for a round to see what Lemur does, but worse comes to worst it'll just narrow down our suspect list. :shrug:
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 56
03-22-2009 03:01 PM ET (US)

I bet pever gave them names. We just had to make ours up because we aren't in the play.

As for the kill, I already sent one in for tonight. Respect to GH and all, but I think we should go after potential detectives as hard as we can.

Don't think it would damage our standing to have another name in there. It's not like we can pretend that so-and-so who got lynched was oswald and that's why he isn't sending kills anymore.

Do you think you might get ID'd based on writing? I think I disguised mine decently. If you want the next kill it's yours.

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Ituralde 55
03-22-2009 02:24 PM ET (US)

Interesting developments.

Two things I wanted to ask:
1) Should we keep sending in the kills via Sasaki? Would it benefit us if another name was thrown into the ring or damage our standing?

2) Do you think pever named the IRA thugs or were they given the same choice we had? If the second is the case, the IRA thug could be someone who knows the play, why else would he have chosen Brendan has his name?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 54
03-21-2009 11:05 PM ET (US)

We'll give him one night. I want to see if Lemur follows up.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 53
03-21-2009 11:01 PM ET (US)

hmm I think we should off him. He has an equal chance of working against us as he has of working for us. Besides maybe it isn't him. We should be working to narrow the suspect list.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 52
03-21-2009 10:57 PM ET (US)

Good call. Both Backroom frequents, both very old-timers that played together but haven't done much recently.

If I'm in the loop we should definitely leave him alive for a while at least. Let him do our work for us.

Another blow to to the pro-town network idea, muahahaha.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 51
03-21-2009 10:49 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-21-2009 10:54 PM
That's hilarious...would have to be this one cause settlement has more than 2 nights.

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First instinct: Alexander the pretty good

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 50
03-21-2009 10:46 PM ET (US)

I just got this PM from Lemur of all people with the heading "Anonymous Tip":

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Night the First, GH innocent
Night the Second, WE innocent
More will follow

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The problem is I don't know what game it's for, lol. If it's this one that helps us out a lot.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 49
03-21-2009 10:29 PM ET (US)

The problem with that plan is one, there's always the possibility that it ends up looking staged and two, with how obvious khaan is being, if he's the detective people will say that it was known that I was a goner...that would end up making you look more suspicious than anything.

Unfortunately pever says both families attempting a kill won't break through doctor protection.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 48
03-21-2009 09:04 PM ET (US)

I have another idea.

If you survive a few rounds without having to reveal, I'm going to post a big long case against you. I've already started to collect a few posts of yours that I would find suspicious under normal circumstances so it won't look too forced.

You can fight back for a bit, and then if the rest of the town is following my lead you can do your fakeclaim as whatever role we want out of the way (probably Mairead). That role will counterclaim and then we'll be able to blast 'em out of the way.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 47
03-21-2009 06:40 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-21-2009 07:10 PM
Ahahaha, I love khaan...hmm I guess I'll need a new fakeclaim. Maybe I can tweak the mairead one.

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Yeah, if khaan posts as detective saying he has a guilty on me, I'll post the mairead claim. Maybe flush the real mairead out, get rid of pesky doctor type. Not worried about my survival.

For tonight, don't think we can risk taking a shot at seamus. The other mafia probably won't try for him again. I'll ask pever about the double kill thing anyway, so if things go awry and I get lynched I can suggest in the thread where the other mafia see.

Andres might be a good kill for tonight. I want to reread him though.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 46
03-21-2009 04:16 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-21-2009 04:18 PM
Well, if he did, nothing we can do about it now. To paraphrase the Simpsons, if taka does have a role and goes on a killing spree, taking out everyone in the town and destroying our chances, I owe you a coke.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 45
03-21-2009 04:14 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-21-2009 04:21 PM
^^I'm confused...taka appeared to have a role in appeasing padraic who is already dead. But like I said, I don't think they're going to go for a seamus lynch.[/edit]

I think taka did have a role...pever added something to my kill:

"The cat just decided to go walking."

Now...I think in the play donney or davie tries to cover a cat in shoe polish to make it look like wee thomas. So this might have something to do with it.

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Andres might be acting a little odd, I'll have to take a look at his posts again.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 44
03-21-2009 04:05 PM ET (US)

Yes, but will the town have its act together enough to figure it out? Right now they're focused on whether taka, an unnamed player, had a role or not.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 43
03-21-2009 04:01 PM ET (US)

Well...he has an irish name and was targetted by the Irish mafia. That pretty much clears him of being mafia. The only way he could be guilty would be as a neutral type role and I don't buy that. Can't imagine him getting lynched.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 42
03-21-2009 03:59 PM ET (US)

Alternatively we could just leave Seamus hanging and count on the town to lynch him/get him to provide specifics. Seamus is an excellent player but not the best on the defense in the world, IIRC.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 41
03-21-2009 03:47 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-21-2009 04:05 PM
Arg, mairead appears to be a doctor. I guess that bit in my fake pm about protecting people with her air rifle was the truth.

Now a question for PEVER: if both families target seamus will he die despite maireads protection?

[snip]

from a wikipedia link. James, Christy, Joey--only two of those can be the IRA. I'll check and see which to and then make a fake claim for the third.

edit:nevermind, Further reading indicates they are all northern irish even though only three are apparently in the game.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 40
03-21-2009 02:32 PM ET (US)

"If Taka was telling the truth to me yesterday, then I believe we are all royally boned.

He wanted me to help him find someone called Davey I believe (deleted all my PMs) and said that if he could not find Davey, and he died, some kind of massive serial killer would run loose."

hmm, and pever added a last bit to my kill "The cat just decided to go walking." so this was apparently true.

The FC quote is "I wanted seamus to die" which seems a lot less incriminating to me. My fake claim is getting more and more useless though, lol.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 39
03-21-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)

Hm, looks like Mairead was trying to recruit Seamus. Seamus has a named role, which says something in itself.

-edit- "FC is the Bees Knees" might be our Mairead - he said "I just wanted Seamus to die" in the thread.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 38
03-20-2009 03:43 PM ET (US)

Certainly we want to go after mafia in thread.

I'm actually half hoping khaan has a guilty on me. Of course killing him is the last thing we want to do--if he's the detective I get lynched anyway and we lose someone who can find the enemy mafioso, and if he's plain townie I'd get lynched because he acted that way to see if I'd kill him. Of course there's always the chance the other mafia noticed and off him...bah. An early exit for me means I don't have to dance around any cases that get made on you two.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 37
03-20-2009 03:02 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-20-2009 03:02 PM
We can get him next round. I think if we lose taka now he'll slip away.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 36
03-20-2009 01:45 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-20-2009 02:49 PM
A tie is fine with me...I agree with offing taka. I can write up a kill.

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kill sent

I'm not sure seamus is his usual self. He'd be a reasonable choice for mafioso, especially the irish side given his name...would be tempting as the ira godfather.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 35
03-20-2009 12:00 PM ET (US)

Have a good one Ituralde!

Okay, next night kill choices. I have a hunch that suspicion is going to naturally flow away from Reenk and taka next round. If we do think that taka has a role it might be smart to off him now.
Ituralde 34
03-20-2009 05:40 AM ET (US)

A tie and no one dies. That's not good.
See you on Monday! :)
GHPerson was signed in when posted 33
03-19-2009 11:37 PM ET (US)

khaan's behavior reminds me a bit of when he was Detective in GF3.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 32
03-19-2009 07:18 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-19-2009 07:26 PM
We're fine, we'd naturally clash a little. As long as it doesn't look like distancing it's cool...the thing that looks suspicious when people read back over the thread is:

a) ignoring each other
b) making weak votes or fos's and then backing off or never mentioning it again

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Appears reenk is going to bite it this round. Pity, I wanted it to be taka on account of those "davey" comments...hmm. Still think he's a good kill.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 31
03-19-2009 06:51 PM ET (US)

Sorry for debating you in the thread, BTW. I figure that evading detection is more important.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 30
03-19-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-19-2009 05:45 PM
hmm, interesting. Tweaked the Mairead role claim in light of new facts.

That takes care of the 2 "other" roles.

I think "doctor" would be the best role claim, simply since we don't want to flush out the detective only to have him be protected...

"i wonder what will happen to davey? that padraic doesnt seem very nice..."--taka

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 29
03-19-2009 01:38 PM ET (US)

AVSM's supposed role PM:

Hello AVSM.

You have been randomly selected as Padraic, son of Donney. For more character information, check out the story that is going to be put up soon, as a prelude to the game starting.

As for in game functions, you are the Serial Killer. Starting from Night 3, you may kill one person per night. You must write up the kill and send it to me. You will be named in this kill as Padraic, your character. Your name will also be revealed if you are killed or lynched.

To win, simply be the last one left alive, or one of two with Mairead. You receive no bonus for finding out who Mairead is, its just someone you know to be innocent and one you do not have to kill.

If you have any questions on strategies or how to play, feel free to ask.

Good luck.

pevergreen

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Not sure if it's allowed or not, so if you want me to take it out pever, just say the word.
Ituralde 28
03-19-2009 01:12 PM ET (US)

Nice shot killing Padraic round one.
This might get good. I will be a little bit inactive over the weekend, so if you could just send the killings in Sasaki. I'm fine with whomever right now. I am not yet used to the whole Mafia thing again, but slowly getting to it.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 27
03-19-2009 12:55 PM ET (US)

I just wanted that part from the introduction...since my pm says "you have been chosen by GH" which obviously my claimed role's pm wouldn't.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 26
03-19-2009 12:44 PM ET (US)

Frankly I'm not sure my GF PM can be of much use, as it's pretty tailored to me personally.

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Hello GH :bow:

You have been randomly selected as the British "Godfather".

You will function the same as the Godfather from your game, and the previous Godfather games. Please PM me with: an English name for yourself four people, listed in order, that you would like to be your henchmen. You will only have two, but the combination of the IRA also choosing and other things may prevent you from getting your choices. I guess I didn't think it through too well. :laugh4:

28 people to choose from, I hope you don't pick the same as the IRA. :grin2:

You win by eliminating the IRA and outnumbering the townspeople that are left, just as normal mafia games are done.

Good luck.
:bow:
pevergreen
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 25
03-19-2009 05:01 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-21-2009 06:55 PM
I'm working on a fake claim of "Mairead" who would have united with padraic when he arrived. One version will have us being anti-english and anti-IRA (for use if about to be lynched), another can have "anti-everyone" for use if a detective comes up with a guilty result...it can be claimed that since padraic is dead Mairead is not a threat. Maybe give her doctor power over padraic.

I'd like to see your role pm gh so I can get some of the wording worked out better.

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Hello [your name]. :bow:

You have been randomly selected as Mairead, Davey's younger sister.

Though only 16, you dream of joining the IRA and becoming a terrorist. Your hero is Padraic, who had to leave the IRA because he was too radical. Nevertheless, you worship Padraic and can't wait to see him.

Each night, you may choose to protect one person with your air rifle. After day 3 when he Padraic arrives, you will be informed who he is and may attempt to join with him. If he accepts you two will fall in love, and your fates will be tied together.

To win, you must be the only two left alive.

Good luck.
:bow:
pevergreen

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Ok...here's a claim for use if a detective claims to have a guilty on you. It's nice because it explains the guilty yet you are powerless now that padraic is dead. Of course it can still get counterclaimed...but whatever.

For the pro-town version (for use in absence of a guilty result), just delete the part about "outnumbering the town". I don't think it can be made into a detective type role although that would be useful.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 24
03-19-2009 04:46 AM ET (US)

Ah, looks like we nailed "padraic". Sorry AVSM to kill you right off in your first game, but it looked from your edit like you had a role and I guess you did.

Heh, the other mafia killed Jolt who was one of our top picks. The must have someone reasonably good on their team.

"Padraic has left the IRA as it's not militant enough for him and when we meet him first, he's quite cheerily torturing a pot dealer who sells to school kids. The scene is both horrifying and funny as Padraic prepares to slice off the dealer's nipple (of his choice) after already having taken off two of his toenails. This jollity is interrupted by a phone call from Padraic's father Donny, who has been caring for his son's beloved cat Wee Thomas. Wee Thomas, we know, has been killed in an unfortunate accident and panic is spreading through the village as everyone knows what Padraic is capable of when he is seeking justice and revenge. Sure enough, Padraic returns home in haste and is met at the ferry dock by young Mairead, who fancies herself a rebel-in-training and idolizes Padraic, and the two of them fall instantly into passionate love. As Padraic tries to find out what has happened to Wee Thomas (and is preparing to execute his father and Mairead's layabout hippie brother Davey on suspicions of a cover-up), the tables are turned when he himself is taken by the splinter group he has splintered off from. His crime? He is too radical and too violent even for this ultra-radical and ultra-violent terrorist branch of the IRA! So he is marched out to be shot, but his love Mairead comes to the rescue (we've already learned she's blinded a herd of cows with her air rifle, so it's not too much of a spoiler to find out that she can do the same with wanna-be executioners). There follows from here a climactic scene of unending gore as Padraic and Mairead take out the now-blinded trio of assassins and then force Donny and Davey into cutting up their bodies for disposal."

I guess it's good we offed padraic?

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 23
03-19-2009 04:41 AM ET (US)

Well, I think the town hates both of us equally though.

Any claim will have to be "mairead" or "davey" characters from the play...we don't know what they are of course. The problem with claiming detective is, if we're believed we're dead anyway. Unless there is a doctor to protect us from the other mafia. This also lends a lot of credibility to any actual detectives claiming.

I actually haven't written a pm yet since I don't see a big advantage in claiming one. It's probably suicide and the actual role might realize that and not counterclaim...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 22
03-19-2009 12:55 AM ET (US)

I've been doing some thinking. Even though there are technically two mafia factions, we're the only "true" one. The IRA and the pro-townies are both pro-town, even though the town needs to get rid of both of us. Seems like being an IRA agent is being a thankless job.

Anyway, I'm thinking a roleclaim as an IRA agent may be a bit more believable than your standard Detective or something. Sure, it's part of the town's victory condition to lynch IRA people, but if need be we could convince them to hold off for a while and even cooperate with the pro-town roles.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 21
03-18-2009 05:14 AM ET (US)

Ok, I sent in a kill for AVSM.

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Ituralde 20
03-18-2009 01:45 AM ET (US)

I'm fine with killing "A very super market"
GHPerson was signed in when posted 19
03-17-2009 10:03 PM ET (US)

IIRC we only get one kill per night. I'd rather not kill a newbie in the first round, but if we think he's got a pro-town role then I'm willing to make an exception.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 18
03-17-2009 08:47 PM ET (US)

"A very super market" might be a good choice for a kill as well. Post #120 in the main thread was originally asking pever when the pro-town role pm's were going to be sent out, however he edited it to "never mind" a few minutes later.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 17
03-17-2009 03:11 PM ET (US)

I sent in "Oswald" don't think I need a last name.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 16
03-17-2009 09:43 AM ET (US)

I'm fine with lynching whoever. If you try to force a lynch too much then your case comes off being manufactured-looking.

And taka sounds good as a first-round kill, he usually sticks around to the endgame anyways.
Ituralde 15
03-17-2009 03:35 AM ET (US)

Back again. I think ATPG deserves the lynch, mainly for WIFOM I guess. If he lives now it will dominate all future discussions. Probably will either way. Might even be good for us if he isn't in fact the IRA godfather.
Ituralde 14
03-17-2009 03:16 AM ET (US)

So I'm the newbie in the popular experienced & newbie couple to be Mafioso. This is my first game for a long time so for the moment I'm content to just stick along.

My role PM is the same as Sasakis. I have to catch up with the thread now, get back to you once I'm finished.

Did you PM your name to pever yet, Sasaki? I'm about but thought it best to check back with you guys. I'm going for Mike Fingers right now but am up for anything that has a cooler reason than the first thing that came to my mind! :)
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03-17-2009 02:21 AM ET (US)

sorry to come in again, but thought it was only fair to even the mafia teams up, so both have knowledge of what this game is based off:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lieutenant_of_Inishmore

most of the synopsis was written by me, and it is unfinished.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 12
03-17-2009 01:24 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-17-2009 03:12 PM
I think taka would be a good kill, just because it's unexpected. Don't want to have a pattern in our kills.

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pevergreen 11
03-17-2009 12:52 AM ET (US)

Good luck you lot.

As for roles, all of them were decided randomly (beside GF choices of you guys) first by getting 6 unique numbers from the player list, then a die roll to choose which one got the roll out of those 6. Both provided by random.org.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 10
03-17-2009 12:51 AM ET (US)

seems we start in day...nice.

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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 9
03-17-2009 12:46 AM ET (US)

Edited by author 03-17-2009 03:12 PM
Well...pever doesn't seem to like him much, so I doubt he has a role.


Myself...the more I think about it I'm about 90% sure I'll be investigated within the first couple rounds if not the first round. So I probably won't use the detective claim...I'll probably claim to be masons with two other people, one of whom appears guilty to investigation like me and has vigilante power while the other appears innocent...lol

We should also consider who is a likely choice for the IRA grunts. But actually, I'm not sure we want to kill them at night...arrg.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 8
03-17-2009 12:29 AM ET (US)

This is the first time I've been mafia in a long time. I'll give pever the benefit of the doubt.

What do you guys think about ATPG just to screw with everybody?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 7
03-17-2009 12:21 AM ET (US)

LittleGrizzly and Jolt generally don't come under much suspicion it seems to me. On the other hand, with you getting "randomly" picked as godfather I'd wonder if it's really all that random. Have to think about it.

hmmm I'm glad I'm not the godfather. Don't really see myself surviving this one, I keep getting killed night plus there's always the round one investigation...

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 6
03-17-2009 12:14 AM ET (US)

Hm, investigator would have been nice. Oh well.

Any ideas for the first kills?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 5
03-17-2009 12:08 AM ET (US)

You have been chosen as the British "grunts" by your Godfather GeneralHankerchief.

As a duo, you get single kill per night phase. It is up to one of you to write that kill up and send it to me. It may only feature one person in it, they will also be named. To that end, you must both PM me with suitable English names for use in game. GH has chosen Robert Frank, however, you do not need a surname.

If one of you dies, the other shall continue with one kill per night. If GeneralHankerchief dies, you both will try to escape Inishmore, resulting in your death. Keep him alive at all costs.

To win, defeat the IRA and outnumber the town.

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GHPerson was signed in when posted 4
03-17-2009 12:04 AM ET (US)

BTW, do you guys have any powers beyond the ability to kill? My abilities/limitations are the same as the Godfathers from Silver's series.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 3
03-16-2009 11:59 PM ET (US)

Good call. Seeing as you're the one person who can absorb all the various pro-town efforts normally aimed at me.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 2
03-16-2009 11:57 PM ET (US)

:D

I'll get working on my fake detective claim.

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03-16-2009 08:09 PM ET (US)

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Khaan is your final lynch...congrats to the town, you guys were never really our enemies in this as much as the other family.

[Reenk Roink]

Mairead was prettier than I thought. :laugh4:

[seireikhaan]

Vote: El Diablo

The stunt you pulled early on about not getting a role PM, general lurking, etc...

[Reenk Roink]

Look here is the thing to both El Diablo and Lord Winter: You must vote khaan!

First he is neutral, and you are town. Now if it were possible for you to win the game with both neutrals and town, then you would have done so already.

Second, his very role PM thing suggests that he has to survive until the end. Obviously, that is what he is trying to do.

Remember this post a while back?



First why wasn't' GH killed a long time ago?

Second, you do realize that khaan probably needs to die for a town victory? Unless pever says so otherwise.

Sasaki was a good choice, but GH should have been killed before Atpg.

I'm pulling for Lord Winter and El Diablo though, if they win as Mafia, great job!

[seireikhaan]

I repeat: I have no horse in this race. I just don't want to die. The fact that the kill was done with a longbow was a blatant attempt to set me up. El Diablo's lack of activity early on, the "I didn't get a role PM" wifom early on, etc.... I'm harmless, the scum know it, and that's why I haven't had another attempt on my life. But I certainly make an easier lynch target when the end game came about.

[Lord Winter]

So it appears that 'khan has killing powers. If we belive Sasski.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Kill khaan. Rake him over the coals and make his death nice and painful.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Am I allowed to speak now? :stars:

[Yoyoma1910]

Kill khaan. Rake him over the coals and make his death nice and painful.

Did anyone bring some popcorn?

[pevergreen]

Sasaki. I honestly can't believe you aren't catching on here.

Don't post here anymore.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was told I can post again.

There are 11 roles, and all of them have been accounted for. Shinseikhaan is the final role. I know no more than the rest of you do at this point, but the host said 11 roles, and Shinsei is the last one.

[Lord Winter]

Unvote: El Diablo
Vote: 'Khan

Lets end it.

[seireikhaan]

Unvote: El Diablo
Vote: 'Khan

Lets end it.
Trying to end it the wrong way. :no:
Tell me, what evidence is there against me that I'm actually a bad guy?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You played a good game, Shinseikhaan.

It's very simple; we have 11 roles, as confirmed by the host, and you're the last one. The English mafia already confessed, and unfortunately, that hangs you.

[pevergreen]

It's very simple; we have 11 roles, as confirmed by the host, and you're the last one. The English mafia already confessed, and unfortunately, that hangs you.

11 roles...apart from that role I didnt really count...:sweatdrop:

[Lord Winter]

Trying to end it the wrong way. :no:
Tell me, what evidence is there against me that I'm actually a bad guy?

It's pretty hard to fake an entire quicktopic. With all roles accounted for and all maffiosos dead your the only non townie left.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Aha! But from what the host just said it could be anyone, now!

Very interesting. Lord Winter, I think you could have pulled off an epic victory, but ever since your suicide request, you've had no pressure on you. And you're so quick to get shinseikhaan dead or El diablo. You've given excuses all game as to why you can't post, you're behind, can't get caught up... you could very well be the hidden role. What if you did have RL committments and wanted to suicide, but still had a role? Psychonaut had a role, and he suicided, I believe.

So I can't let you off that easy.

[pevergreen]

Just to clarify, I sent out 12 role PMs.

[Lord Winter]

Understood, I would not say I was quick to bandwagon. I started going for El Diablo before the massive Bandwaggon spawned, and you must addmit the confession of the English mafia is a piece of damning evidence. What purpose would they have to fake it?

[seireikhaan]

Understood, I would not say I was quick to bandwagon. I started going for El Diablo before the massive Bandwaggon spawned, and you must addmit the confession of the English mafia is a piece of damning evidence. What purpose would they have to fake it?
To spite a poor man they wished they'd killed long ago, regardless of his actual innocence.

[pevergreen]

I believe its a tie?

My order of what to do in tie situations doesnt really apply this far in (edit: it was going to disable all tied people for the night phase), I'm uncertain of what to do, I guess I should just loop?

If I don't hear anything otherwise in the next half hour or so, I'm going to.

[FactionHeir]

Tie = lynch all :grin:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I argue for an extension due to El Diablo not being here.

I know we ding people for inactivity but I seriously don't believe this is an intentional lurk.

Double lynch or no lynch (coin flip) if he doesn't show up.

[pevergreen]

Im going to give him a total of 40 hours. Phase extended for 9 1/2 hours from now.

Any of the three alive may unvote, and revote, it is not instant death or anything.

I will be at work, so the writeup will be around the normal time.

[El Diablo]

Sorry for my non-attendence.

Luckily it was my increadibly cute 5 year old nieces birthday that kept me away.



Vote Khaan

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's 2 votes on Khaan (Lord Winter, El Diablo)
And one vote on El Diablo (Khaan)

[Askthepizzaguy]

El Diablo
Last Activity: Today 14:37 (2 minutes after voting)

With 12 roles, only 11 of which have been accounted for, Shinseikhaan is the unlikely choice at this time. The murder was an obvious frame on Shinseikhaan, and Khaan's behavior indicates that we was indeed neutral and saw his chance at victory by allying himself with the (treacherous) English mafia.

He survived my murder on him. That was his sole ability, I wager.

Now, that leaves El Diablo and Lord Winter. Lord Winter asked to suicide privately, and since then has been doing what appears to be his best. What puzzles me is his vote on Khaan at this time, when he could easily have won, if he were the final role, by voting El Diablo. I don't get the scum vibe from him, and if he were scum; excellently done.

El Diablo... El Diablo, El Diablo, El Diablo....

In the previous round he private messaged me and asked me to help him find the final scumbag. He also used language identical to his Lunar Whales performance where he lied to me privately about being innocent. Fool me once....

"I am townie. That is for certain"

After I showed him there was a 12th role as confirmed by the host, he left his vote on khaan without stating a case, and didn't read my message that I sent him showing that it could only be him or Lord Winter. He didn't bother trying to kill lord winter at all. He voted, replied, and left forums. His sole reason for the visit here was to drop the executioner vote on Khaan (probably the wrong guy) and leave, secure in his victory.

I've been wrong before, I've been right before, but I'd like to bet that El Diablo is your 12th role, returning well past the 12th hour just to destroy the opposition; not find the real culprit.

*checks his watch* You have 18 minutes.


Edit: oops nevermind you have 30 minutes more. Forgot the 1/2 hour part.

[Lord Winter]

Pevergreen has stated that revealing after death is acceptable. Will the 12th role reveal?

[Askthepizzaguy]

The waiting is the hardest part. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCJEYLIBQY)


The lack of names from GH and Sasaki was due to the host trying to keep the game in suspense. Everyone else who had a role who died had their name shown in-thread; and according to the host all the roles have a name.

:shrug:

But hey, if anyone does have the 12th role, that would make it simpler if they confessed.

[El Diablo]

ATPG, could Khaan's suvival of your murder be due to him being a godfather and you a grunt?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Both Godfathers died this game.

And no, pevergreen even said that my godfather had no special defenses, and the english godfather was the same way.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Time expired.

Now to see what really happened...

[Lord Winter]

:sweatdrop:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Curses and Drat...

I have failed you, master Shinseikhaan. But fear not, for soon the whole of Ireland will be bathed in the Glorious Light.

[El Diablo]

Was Lord Winter the one we needed to get?

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Pure King will have his revenge... and you haven't seen the last of Brendan either.

Christy and Heilyn will not have died in vain. The fightin' spirit of the Irish lives on through me. One day, vengeance will be mine. Mine I tells ya.

[seireikhaan]

What a pity this game has to end like this. Good game, El Diablo. :bow:

[pevergreen]

I must have gotten calculations wrong or something...

You were all posted at like...6:30 am here...You said the game finished just before 7am


Yesterday, 22:29
Im going to give him a total of 40 hours. Phase extended for 9 1/2 hours from now.

Regardless, 'khaan has been lynched.

[pevergreen]

The day seemed like the longest yet. All three sat comtemplating their fates, their actions, themselves. Lord Winter and 'khaan spoke, and towards the end of the long day, so did El Diablo.

It finally came to a close. Inishmore was either safe, or gone. 'khaan had been chosen. The final choice.

'khaan sighed. He knew he was going to die. He took off his boxing gloves, which he wore at silly times, for laughs, and placed his neck through the noose. The box from under his feet was taken out and the drop cut off his air supply, leaving him kicking in the air and dieing slowly.

*****

Later that night, Lord Winter and El Diablo sat drinking. A friendly black and white cat came walking in, rubbing himself against their legs. Without a word, El Diablo pulled out his handgun and shot the cat.

":daisy: cats, I hate 'em."

Lord Winter stared in disbelief.
"You hate cats?"

":daisy: yeah. Most annoying creatures on the planet."

"You are no true Irishman then!"

"Maybe I'm not. See, me names Artair. I've gotten through this long and I'm quite sick of this place. So, if you don't mind, I'll be out of here."

El Diablo shot Lord Winter three times and left Inishmore, never to return.


Scottish Victory.

Alive:
El Diablo

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly
GeneralHankerchief
Lord Winter


Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir
Sasaki Kojiro
'khaan


Role List:

IRA:
Godfather: Diana Abonba
Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy

English:
Godfather: GH
Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro

Pro Town:
Donney: Seamus
Davey: FactionHeir
Mairead: Reenk Roink

Neutral:
Padraic: AVSM
Heilyn: 'khaan
Artair: El Diablo


Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill.
Donney was the detective.
Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night.
Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town.
Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though.
Heilyn: Welsh boxer, survive one night kill. Only had to survive.
Artair: Late blooming Serial Killer.

[Askthepizzaguy]

:yes:

Congratulations, El Diablo.

[Beefy187]

Nice twist at the end. Good game. Though if only if I lived a tad longer I would've enjoyed the game more... :sweatdrop:

Thanks for hosting pever :2thumbsup:

[boudica]

gg pever. Late blooming serial killers get all the luck eh :laugh4: congrats El Diablo!

[Askthepizzaguy]

The IRA quicktopic (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/Lr9xUs9XPfeA).

Andres wasn't there for most of the game due to RL stuff, and this was Diana's first game, so it's mostly just me talking to myself and keeping notes.

Tried to make it mildly entertaining for you guys to read though.


ATC- Andres
p- pevergreen
RobinHood26- Diana Abnoba
BeamMeUpScotty- Askthepizzaguy



The Reenk murder that my teammates had to talk me out of using...

Reenk Roink woke up the next morning to find a horse head in his bed. He was covered in warm, sticky blood. He was startled at first, but frankly, he had seen more than one horse's head end up in his bed in his life. However, he was not expecting Brendan to be standing there at the doorway of his bedroom, pointing a gun at him.

"So... it has come down to this. Here we are, you and me. Friends forever, right Reenk?" Reenk Roink just grinned back at him. He knew what was coming. He'd been killed plenty of times.

"Well I can't say you've done a very good job of fighting the English, my friend. As such, you've become a nuisance to me and my entire family. We no longer wish to do business, my friend. My very, very good friend... friends for life, right Reenk?" Reenk nodded. (He seemed genuinely entertained by this obvious mobster impression. He propped himself up on his elbows and smiled with anticipation.)

"Well it seems our friendship will last longer than your life. I knew it was you, Reenk. You broke my heart, Reenk... you broke my heart. And now, I'm gonna break-a your face." (Reenk grabbed some popcorn and munched on it gleefully.)

"I have a certain mission here in Ireland... to rid the world of the hated English. They have been oppressing us for too long. Something needs to change. A lot of things need to change. The whole stinking system has to change. And I am the one man who will make that happen Reenk. And you are the one man who I cannot trust to help rid these lands of English scum. You fellows all seem to think that the mafia writeups hold no clues, You really cannot be so naive. Of course they have clues. Such as my calling card... have you heard of the Two Blind Mice, Reenk?" (Reenk was filing his nails. This speech was getting boring, actually.) Brendan fired the gun at his chest.

"Hey! Hey! Pay attention. This is my big dramatic moment. Throw me a frickin' bone here." Reenk clutched his chest in pain, but started giggling.

"Oh, you think this is funny? You think this is amusing? What am I, a clown to you? Do I make you laugh? You wanna play rough, huh? You wanna play rough? Well say hello to my little friend." Brendan opened fire all over Reenk Roink, gleefully showering Reenk with bullets, spraying blood everywhere, cackling with sick pleasure over the destruction of his rival. Sure, he was no English Godfather, but Brendan was beyond caring... beyond rational thought... and completely insane.

"Tell your friends in the village... tell all your friends... tell them that the Irish Mice don't play well with English Rats. If they want to avoid a similar fate, they will stop wasting time and start looking for English scum. Ok? Ok man? Do you get me, buddy? Are we all clear now? Do you capice?" Reenk nodded (but still chuckled at Brendan for breaking character). Brendan opened fire again and blew Reenk's legs clean off.

"I took the liberty of ordering you a pizza. Have one last slice of cheesy goodness. I also ordered you some wine, and I have it right next to your bed in a shiny goblet. Don't worry, I didn't poison it... much. And if anyone here thinks that Askthepizzaguy didn't do this writeup, then they don't understand Pizzaguy very well. Ok? Have some clues. Here's my card. They call me Brendan, not Jimmy McJolty. I'm not Donney, and I'm not CountArach. I'm not Shlin28. And I am not Captain Blackadder. I'm Brendan. B-R-E-N-D-A-N the pizzaguy." Brendan paused for dramatic effect.

"Lynchthepizzaguy this round. Capice? We are better off without him anyway.... Salute. And don't forget the parentheses, Reenk."

Two Blind MiceFake endings for the English which never got used...

FAKE ENDING ONE:

The gong rung. Time had completely run out. Had the citizens of Inishmore finally caught the English Godfather? Or were things about to get very heated?

The survivors were gathering at MacDougal's bar for one final round of drinks. On the radio, a song was heard; "Walking in a winter wonderland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IwD4xLCCW4)". Heilyn noticed a card on the floor of the bar, and he picked it up and read it. It said "One Blind Mouse". Not fully understanding what this meant, he dropped it on the ground. It didn't seem very lucky. he returned to his drink. Someone else walked into the bar, and sat next to Heilyn. He said to Heilyn: "What are you having?" and Heilyn replied "Whiskey, of course!". And the stranger said "Sounds good, I think I'll have some of that." So the two of them sat at the bar, and enjoyed a round of fine Irish Whiskey together. The bartender offered the stranger some wine instead, but no true Irishman would ever drink wine, especially when it was poured right in front of them. The bartender just shrugged and returned to cleaning mugs. Another man entered the bar. It was the pizza delivery man.

"Good evening, gentlemen. Did someone order a pizza?" said the man.

Heilyn raised his hand. Oswald came over to the bar and set the warming pouch down. "That will be £10.30." he said. Heilyn replied, "I don't have any pounds sterling, just Euros. Hey, wait a second..."

Oswald grabbed Heilyn's mug and smashed him in the mouth with it, knocking him off of his bar stool. The stranger sitting next to him sat frozen in shock, and Oswald opened the warming pouch and removed a Sterling submachine gun. "I've got a Sterling for you right here, mate!" He opened fire with glee, and turned the Stranger into swiss cheese. Then he shot Heilyn in the back as he was trying to escape. Then he sat at the bar, and the bartender said "What will you be having?"

Oswald, AKA Sasaki Kojiro, said, "A bloody mary, of course. Though, given how many people I've killed, you might as well call it a bloody Irishman."

Lord Winter replied, "Don't forget the bloody Welshman!"

The two laughed and laughed over their victory. Inishmore had been utterly annihilated, and the English had won a Sterling victory. In celebration, Oswald actually considered ordering a pizza pie, but remembered that he prefered Shepherd's pie, as all good Englishman do.



English Mafia Victory.




______________________

FAKE ENDING TWO:


The gong rung. Time had completely run out. Had the citizens of Inishmore finally caught the English Godfather? Or were things about to get very spicy?


The survivors were gathering at MacDougal's bar for one final round of drinks. On the radio, a song was heard; "The Devil went down to Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDm_ZHyYTrg)". Heilyn noticed a card on the floor of the bar, and he picked it up and read it. It said "One Blind Mouse". Not fully understanding what this meant, he dropped it on the ground. It didn't seem very lucky. he returned to his drink. Someone else walked into the bar, and sat next to Heilyn. He said to Heilyn: "What are you having?" and Heilyn replied "Guinesss, of course!". And the stranger said "Sounds good, I think I'll have some of that." So the two of them sat at the bar, and enjoyed a round of fine Guiness together. The bartender offered the stranger some wine instead, but no true Irishman would ever drink wine, especially when it was poured right in front of them. The bartender just shrugged and returned to cleaning mugs. Another man entered the bar. It was the chinese food delivery man.

"Good evening, gentlemen. Did someone order some pork fried rice?" said the man.

Heilyn raised his hand. Oswald came over to the bar and set the warming pouch down. "That will be £10.30." he said. Heilyn replied, "I don't have any pounds sterling, just Euros. Hey, wait a second..."

Oswald grabbed Heilyn's mug and smashed him in the mouth with it, knocking him off of his barstool. The stranger sitting next to him sat frozen in shock, and Oswald opened the warming pouch and removed a Sterling submachine gun. "I've got a Sterling for you right here, mate!" He opened fire with glee, and turned the Stranger into Peking Duck. Then he shot Heilyn in the back as he was trying to escape. Then he sat at the bar, and the bartender said "What will you be having?"

Oswald, AKA Sasaki Kojiro, said, "A bloody mary, of course. Though, given how many people I've killed, you might as well call it a bloody Irishman."

El Diablo replied, "Don't forget the bloody Welshman!"

The two laughed and laughed over their victory. Inishmore had been utterly annihilated, and the English had won a Sterling victory. In celebration, Oswald actually considered ordering some Peking Duck, but remembered that he prefered Shepherd's pie, as all good Englishman do.



English Mafia Victory.




______________________


FAKE ENDING THREE:

The gong rung. Time had completely run out. Had the citizens of Inishmore finally caught the English Godfather? Or were things about to get very cheesy?

The survivors were gathering at MacDougal's bar for one final round of drinks. On the radio, a song was heard; strangely enough, the theme to Metal Gear Solid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKA4b5SFq4)..... Shinseikhaan noticed a card on the floor of the bar, and he picked it up and read it. It said "One Blind Mouse". Not fully understanding what this meant, he dropped it on the ground. It didn't seem very lucky. he returned to his drink. Someone else walked into the bar, and sat next to Heilyn. He asked Heilyn "What are you having?" and Heilyn replied "Bailey's Irish Cream, of course!". And the stranger said "Sounds good, I think I'll have some of that." So the two of them sat at the bar, and enjoyed a round of fine Irish Cream together. The bartender offered the stranger some wine instead, but no true Irishman would ever drink wine, especially when it was poured right in front of them. The bartender just shrugged and returned to cleaning mugs. Another man entered the bar. It was the Japanese Food delivery man.

"Good evening, gentlemen. Did someone order some sushi?" said the man.

Heilyn raised his hand. Oswald came over to the bar and set the warming pouch down. "That will be £10.30." he said. Heilyn replied, "I don't have any pounds sterling, just Euros. Hey, wait a second..."

Oswald grabbed Heilyn's mug and smashed him in the mouth with it, knocking him off of his barstool. The stranger sitting next to him sat frozen in shock, and Oswald opened the warming pouch and removed a Sterling submachine gun. "I've got a Sterling for you right here, mate!" He opened fire with glee, and turned the Stranger into Sukiyaki. Then he shot Heilyn in the back as he was trying to escape. Then he sat at the bar, and the bartender said "What will you be having?"

Oswald, AKA Lord Winter said, "A bloody mary, of course. Though, given how many people I've killed, you might as well call it a bloody Irishman."

Sasaki Kojiro replied, "Don't forget the bloody Welshman!"

The two laughed and laughed over their victory. Inishmore had been utterly annihilated, and the English had won a Sterling victory. In celebration, Oswald actually considered ordering some sushi, but remembered that he preferred Shepherd's pie, as all good Englishman do.



English Mafia Victory.




______________________



Real ending


The gong rung. Time had completely run out. Had the citizens of Inishmore finally caught the English Godfather? Not a chance in hell!!!

The survivors were gathering at MacDougal's bar for one final round of drinks. On the radio, a song was heard; a marching song called the British Grenadiers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDKn3nl9FeY)..... Heilyn noticed a card on the floor of the bar, and he picked it up and read it. It said "One Blind Mouse". Not fully understanding what this meant, he dropped it on the ground. It didn't seem very lucky. he returned to his drink. Someone else walked into the bar, and sat next to Heilyn. He asked him "What are you having?" and Khaan replied "I'm actually drinking some Earl Grey, I'm not really in the mood for alcohol". And the stranger looked at him oddly, and wondered what kind of Irishman could ever pass up a chance to drink alcohol. So the two of them sat at the bar, and the stanger ordered some Bass beer. The bartender offered the stranger some wine instead, but no true Irishman would ever drink wine, especially when it was poured right in front of them. The bartender just shrugged and returned to cleaning mugs. Another man entered the bar. It was the the English food delivery man. Heilyn turned and looked at the delivery man, and started to laugh.

"Who ordered the Fish and Chips?" asked the delivery man.

No one in the bar said anything for almost a full minute. Then the stranger turned and said "There's no one here daft enough to order English food. You must have the wrong bar, ya wee git. You'd have to be pretty dodgy to order English food at an Irish bar, laddie."

Oswald turned to the man and said "This isn't an Irish bar anymore, mate..."

Just then, Heilyn turned and dumped a pot of piping hot Earl Grey on the stranger, who jumped up off of his bar stool from the scalding pain. He took a pool stick and began beating the stranger with it, smashing the wooden pole over his head and neck repeatedly. The bartender joined in, taking several mugs and smashing the stranger over the head with it. Oswald stood back and watched the carnage, laughing the entire time. After several minutes of this brutal beating, Oswald set down his delivery pouch and pulled out his Sterling submachine gun.

The bartender, GeneralHankerchief, and the welshman, Shinseikhaan, stood back and allowed Oswald, AKA Sasaki Kojiro, to open fire. He turned the poor fellow into a bloody pulp that slightly resembled mashed potatoes covered in gravy. And then, their bloody deed finished, they all sat down together and drank Bass beer.

The three of them laughed and laughed over their victory. Inishmore had been utterly annihilated, and the English had won a Sterling victory, thanks to the Welshman who was just passing through, but had no love for Ireland. In celebration, Oswald actually considered ordering some pizza, but then he remembered that only fools eat pizza. So they decided to order some Shepherd's pie instead. But then again, they remembered what the pizzaguy did to his sheep, so they lost their appetite altogether. Still, it was a victory for the ages... God Save the Queen!





English Mafia and Welsh Victory

Which of course I didn't get to use because someone didn't tell me he still had extra roles running around murdering people, but let me waste two hours writing fake endings for him.

:brood: @ pevergreen

:2thumbsup:

[pevergreen]

Well to be fair, I wasn't going to let you know how the game was actually going to end, I was going to write that myself anyway.

[Andres]

Well, allthough ATPG's confession leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, I pretty much enjoyed this one. It had been ages since I was mafia in one of the large games.

Well played town, 'khaan and English mafia and congratulations El Diablo :bow:

Thanks for hosting, pevergreen. It was a great game :2thumbsup:

[Askthepizzaguy]

To be fair... I had fun writing those endings. Could have spent that time with the girlfriend though. :yes:

[pevergreen]

Yeah, all the time you could have spent with her, you spent on the computer anyway...so I'm hardly to blame. :grin2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Shush, now... let's not let facts interfere with my crazy lunatic delusions.

[shlin28]

Gratz to ED! Serial killers are the best :yes: Thanks to pever for hosting too :bow:

Sorry about my lack of participation, my wireless messing up really hurts my time at the Org.

[A Very Super Market]

Urgh, the other serial killer won!

Blargh....

[Reenk Roink]

Haha, it looks like we weren't ever going to win anyway. Still, great job El Diablo, and I still think we did the right thing by lynching khaan. :laugh4:

Great game pever, loved the Fillet Royale meets Godfather style. :bow:

[GeneralHankerchief]

GG everybody. Many thanks to pever for hosting! :2thumbsup:

[Diana Abnoba]

Great game, I learned alot. I hope next time I get a part with alittle less riding on it, so I don't have to worry about what and when to post. Congrates El Diablo on your victory. Thanks to everyone,I had a good time on my first game. A special thanks to pizza and Andres for their help. :applause:

[FactionHeir]

Good game pevergreen

[GeneralHankerchief]

So how did khaan know I was the British Godfather then? Lucky guess? :dizzy2:

[pevergreen]

The day seemed like the longest yet. All three sat comtemplating their fates, their actions, themselves. Lord Winter and 'khaan spoke, and towards the end of the long day, so did El Diablo.

It finally came to a close. Inishmore was either safe, or gone. 'khaan had been chosen. The final choice.

'khaan sighed. He knew he was going to die. He took off his boxing gloves, which he wore at silly times, for laughs, and placed his neck through the noose. The box from under his feet was taken out and the drop cut off his air supply, leaving him kicking in the air and dieing slowly.

*****

Later that night, Lord Winter and El Diablo sat drinking. A friendly black and white cat came walking in, rubbing himself against their legs. Without a word, El Diablo pulled out his handgun

":daisy: cat, Thats Padriac's cat!"

Lord Winter stared in disbelief.
"You canna be serious?"

":daisy: yeah. It caused all this killing. I say we kill it."

"Yah. Lets do it!"

They both drew sight on the cat, but couldnt stop trembling.

"Aye...I can't do it."

"Neither can I."

The night continued in peace.

Town Victory.

Alive:
El Diablo
Lord Winter

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly
GeneralHankerchief


Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir
Sasaki Kojiro
'khaan


Role List:

IRA:
Godfather: Diana Abonba
Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy

English:
Godfather: GH
Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro

Pro Town:
Donney: Seamus
Davey: FactionHeir
Mairead: Reenk Roink
Townie with Wee Thomas: taka (non counted role :laugh4:)

Neutral:
Padraic: AVSM
Heilyn: 'khaan


Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill.
Donney was the detective.
Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night.
Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town.
Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though.
Heilyn: Welsh Mastermind, survive one night kill. Gained the ability to kill once there was only one possible kill per night. Chose GH/Diana as Godfathers.

[Reenk Roink]

:wall:

This all stems from GH's terrible tradition.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Heilyn: Welsh Mastermind, survive one night kill. Gained the ability to kill once there was only one possible kill per night. Chose GH/Diana as Godfathers.

Ah, interesting...what were his victory conditions?


:wall:

This all stems from GH's terrible tradition.

:laugh4:

[Greyblades]

ATPG was mafia?:wall:

Ah well GG and all.

[pevergreen]

Ah, interesting...what were his victory conditions?



:laugh4:

Win if he was the only person left, win if he was alive with mafia outnumbering town (if he hadn't of killed GH, or if GH hadn't targeted him, you both would have won) and he would win if it was only the two mafia factions left. He'd kill both sides off and be the only one left.

[seireikhaan]

Many thanks to all involved. Had a good time with this one. My (actual) role:

Hello 'khaan. :bow:

You have been randomly selected as the most powerful role in the game. The Welsh Mastermind.

In case you don't know, your responsibilities are as follows:
1. Win (Obviously, methods given later)
2. Pick the Godfather for the British and the IRA mafia families.
3. Pick a Welsh sounding name for yourself.

As you will know the identity of the godfathers, you will not be allowed to allude, reveal or hint in any way that they are who they are.

You will win if the mafia win (outnumber town) or if you are the last one standing.

You will also be granted the ability to kill once per night, at a certain stage in the game. This stage is unknown to you.

This will be hard, the mafia will not know who you are and so you must keep a low profile to survive. Enjoy your time at the top 'khaan, I await your PM choices of Godfathers and your name.

Good luck.
:bow:
pevergreen

More to come later, may be in a couple days. RL is not being kind this week.

[El Diablo]

GG pever. Thaks for hosting. It was fun.
Only the second time I have won a game !!

Appolgies to those that I helped to lynch wrong on the way - particularly Boudica. :wall:

Go town woo!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG was mafia?:wall:

Missed the boat on that one, Greyblades! Where have you been? :laugh2:

Ah well. Once again town does well by NOT listening to me. Hahahaha :laugh4:

Turns out I was helping the Mafia mastermind as best I could anyway... I even asked Pevergreen if there was a mafia mastermind and he acted like he'd never heard of one.

Hilarious.

[Greyblades]

Missed the boat on that one, Greyblades! Where have you been? :laugh2:
Hilarious.

In a half aware daze. Depression really sucks when your trying to concentrate for long periods of time.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well... Mastermind'd again. This is getting annoyingly common. :wall:

Well played khaan, but you had to die in the end. :bow:

[Beefy187]

And now I have to fix the synopsis:inquisitive:

Nice work town :2thumbsup:

[Diana Abnoba]

Well done town, well done khaan, what a twist. Now, is it really over, or is there another twist? :dizzy2:

[Lord Winter]

First town victory were I actually survived. Anyway, well played by all. The anti town roles have nothing to be ashamed about. Wish GH got to run his last kill for 'khan though.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So with 9 alive, we had 5 mafia left...and they all bought it :laugh4:

Very bold choice by khaan to go for the solo victory. Don't think he had a chance at success though.

I enjoyed doing the Oswald write ups, and enjoyed even more when yoyoma and reenk died as a result of them. Killing seamus the night he investigated me was choice as well.

Here's our quicktopic:

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/VaLYuRTvhWyPW

AVSM got killed because he posted asking when the role pm's were going to be sent out, but then edited to "nvm" a few minutes later.

Taka for mentioning something about davey.

Alexander the pretty good because we thought it likely that he would pick lemur to send his results through.

YLC because it looked like he might be trying to distance himself from a mairead role.

Greyblades because he seemed a bit twitchy.

Andres because he seemed scummy.

Seamus because he was the detective

LG because we wanted an el diablo lynch


I went after LittleGrizzly as hard as I did because we absolutely couldn't have it look like I knew a detective had a guilty on Ituralde. That would have pointed right to GH. I kept it up in later rounds because I'd convinced myself he was mafia :laugh4: though in the round boudica got lynched I pushed him because I needed to look like I didn't want boudica lynched and because I needed another suspect for godfather.

Final two rounds, we thought khaan would be with us, but he decided to go his own way...low activity, ended predictably with the remaining three mafia dying off and the townies winning. Game peaked at the last minute vote change to lynch boudica.

[seireikhaan]

A few comments real quick about the choices for Godfather:

GH- Rather obvious, is it not? The recent host of Godfather III, a game I tried to participate in and FAILED utterly in. However, despite that, it was still quite fun. GH did a great service to the many who play now who never got to play the first two. In combination with the eery fact that GH almost *never* ends up as a mafioso, something I feel is very unfortunate(loving to play the role myself). Add in the fact that I want to, of course, see how he plays as a mafioso(again, seeing as its so rare) without having to actually be suffered to it without knowledge of its happening.

Diana Abnoba- Consider this my WELCOME! to mafia. I feel there is no better way to be introduced to mafia than to be thrust into the fire as a mafioso, particularly if there are solid veterans to learn from. Myself, my first game was Cosa Nuova II, in which I was a rook mafioso who got lynched halfway through the game. However, I got to learn from Seamus and Hughtower, both of whom had an excellent idea of what they were doing.
Of course, to be honest, there is more to this than just that- an inexperienced Godfathermother, I felt, would be a generally easier target to work with. Plus, I figured it was a near guarantee that you would pick Pizzaguy as one of your grunts, and I love me a sparring match with Pizza. And you wisely picked Andres to help offer guidance to your efforts. All in all, you played an excellent game, lasting longer than I did for sure my first time!




Of course, I'm sure that GH, Sasaki, and Ituralde are quite curious about my end game choices. Basically, it works like this: in the second to last round, I had ONE way of ensuring my total victory; to convince the town of GH's guilt, lynching him and casting Sasaki out of Inishmore in one fell swoop. unfortunately, nobody took my bait, and instead targeted Sasaki, which was highly unfortunate for me. I was pretty convinced that GH would have me killed regardless at this point, since I had pretty well shown I WASN'T on their side, and my threat of having him lynched was moot since he had the same ability.

Now, I could have cast my vote, in the end, for El Diablo. What would that have done? 2 vs 1 vs 1. 2 mafia, one townie, and me. Result? Victory. For both me and the English Mafia. If either mafia had one, I would have won as well. But here's the thingy about that... I'm really bad about sharing. ~;p I was going to take my shot for the ultimate victory and hope for the slim chance that GH would try to kill El Diablo or Lord Winter, while I would kill him, resulting in only myself and the one remaining townsperson, and a true WELSH triumph.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was a bit more direct a route to victory than one would expect from you, Shinseikhaan. :yes:

I was totally thrown for a loop again; it seems to me you wouldn't have exposed yourself to the English if you had chosen to try to make it all the way to the end by yourself. But then again, my reads on people are 50/50 at best, so maybe next time I'll just flip a coin.

[GeneralHankerchief]

TBH, I thought your plan was to vote Sasaki just to make us (the Brits) squirm for as long as possible and then end up on my side at the endas we ganged up on El Diablo for the final lynch. However, I wasn't about to be beholden to you in that way and decided to risk being lynched by the town in an effort to make sure you lost. :laugh4:

-edit- I know firsthand from Spirit Mafia that while aligning yourself to the mafia will get you to the end, it won't get you across the final hurdle. Take note, solo players. You're best served going at it alone. :yes:

[seireikhaan]

It was a bit more direct a route to victory than one would expect from you, Shinseikhaan. :yes:
That's the whole point. :smash:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Awww, couldn't yall just get along and share? I thought I had done something all profound-like with the Golden Rule game...

:clown:

[seireikhaan]

TBH, I thought your plan was to vote Sasaki just to make us (the Brits) squirm for as long as possible and then end up on my side at the endas we ganged up on El Diablo for the final lynch. However, I wasn't about to be beholden to you in that way and decided to risk being lynched by the town in an effort to make sure you lost. :laugh4:
Ya, I sorta figured you were going to kill me when you said you would probably kill El Diablo the following night when we were chatting on steam. You need to be a bit less obvious. :yes:

EDIT: And I still had a good chance of winning the solo. If the town had been more receptive to my pitch, and given the activity levels, if I'd succeeded in obtaining an early bandwagon on you, you could have revealed all you wanted and it wouldn't have done diddly to stop me.

[seireikhaan]

Oh, and a couple other points of curiosity, GH:

Surely you guys didn't buy that awful "reveal" I gave to you, right? EDIT: To clarify, the one I gave to GH, not the one I gave to the town.

Second, GH, how many times did I "gently suggest" you kill Pizza or Diana? :jester:

[GeneralHankerchief]

I knew something was up, especially when you took forever to send that role PM I asked you for. Can't remember if there was something up about the fake results you sent too. But look at it from our point of view: we had nothing else to go on. All we knew is that you knew I was the Godfather, which was the giant specter hanging over all of us. Had you found out Sasaki or Ituralde I would have probably cut them loose in order to get rid of you as a threat, but any retaliation on our part could have instantly ended the game.

[taka]

excellent game :2thumbsup: the best part of this game and i liked the most, was the kinda "story within the story". what happened to the cat in the end? :laugh4:

and forgot to say, grats the El Diablo!

[seireikhaan]

I knew something was up, especially when you took forever to send that role PM I asked you for. Can't remember if there was something up about the fake results you sent too. But look at it from our point of view: we had nothing else to go on. All we knew is that you knew I was the Godfather, which was the giant specter hanging over all of us. Had you found out Sasaki or Ituralde I would have probably cut them loose in order to get rid of you as a threat, but any retaliation on our part could have instantly ended the game.
Hey, forever? I thought 2 minutes was an impressive clip considering I was making it up as I went. ~:handball:

But ya, I figured the "spectre" effect as you called it would ensure my safety regardless of how poor the PM was.

And the results thing was because I made up the results and the rounds I did them, and when you asked for a result, I accidentally put a different round for Shlin's result. :laugh4:

[seireikhaan]

Found it:

GeneralHankerchief: so why does it say "Inishmore Night Two" when you said you investigated shlin the first night?
seireikhaan: because I made that up, of course

:laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh, and a couple other points of curiosity, GH:

Surely you guys didn't buy that awful "reveal" I gave to you, right? EDIT: To clarify, the one I gave to GH, not the one I gave to the town.

Second, GH, how many times did I "gently suggest" you kill Pizza or Diana? :jester:

The only way for you to be on our side only and have the game be balanced was if seamus could only find the brit mafia. We figured it was more likely that you could find both godfathers and pick which one you sided with.

I wasn't planning on killing you...certainly wouldn't have if you voted el diablo from the start, and wouldn't have if you switched it with no fuss either. Ah well.

[GeneralHankerchief]

See, that's where I'm a bit colder than you, Sasaki. khaan was dead to me as soon as he failed to vote El Diablo right away.

[pevergreen]

excellent game :2thumbsup: the best part of this game and i liked the most, was the kinda "story within the story". what happened to the cat in the end? :laugh4:

Yay! Someone liked the story! :beam:

Wee Thomas, your little cat, got safely to davey, who was killed, and now lives with Lord Winter and El Diablo who feed him anything he wants.

I think I'll stick to mostly vanilla games from now on. My crazy games don't seem to be as much fun for people. Halls of the Dead would have been great though. :no:

As for commentary, I'm really not a commenting person. There were some laughs early on when Sasaki, Andres, ATPG and Ituralde all fought with each other, and ATPG nearly getting himself lynched to be 'innocent'. His continued attitude that he was going to lose got a bit annoying. The kills were painful to read. :laugh4:

The only kill I wrote myself was GH's. You can tell, because the other ones were all better. :yes:

So the town of Inishmore lives on...

[Ituralde]

Thanks for the game pever!

It was interesting to be a Mafioso after I hadn't played for such a long time. It was difficult because I was trying to play as town, but then I couldn't remember how it was like to play as town. I'm also bummed that I woke up that early on Wednesday although I went to sleep really late the night before, because suddenly ATPG suspected me because of it. Probably have to think more before I sign on to the .org. And if it hadn't been for RL keeping me offline during the most active periods of the game I could have done something more interesting than just skitter around in the beginning and then not show up until right before the lynch. :beam:

[Sigurd]

I must publicly apologize to pevergreen for not being able to participate in your game.
Being robbed of the ability to browse these forums during work hours (at least until July), greatly put a hamper on my participation in the great games of the gameroom.

After long work hours, I find myself a bit out of breath and being a family man, I have a small window to spend time here every day. Weekends are even worse.

Luckily I don't think this game suffered by my total inactivity as I was a non role townie.
Town won though... :2thumbsup:

Will there be a badge? :mellow:

[LittleGrizzly]

Great game pever i really enjoyed it!

I didn't kick into action straight away partially because of my watcher role in reenks game, but then i died in reenks game and sasaki started accussing me and it all kicked off in this game for me!

Sasaki... so you did actually think i was mafia ? not just setting up an innocent for the lynch...?

Im just really glad you turned out to be mafia... would have felt quite stupid otherwise...

I was just a regular townie here but i feel i did my little bit to contribute towards the victory...

[Andres]

Oh, and sorry for using you as my favourite target, LittleGrizzly :shame:

I really thought you were just an innocent townie, but since you were so kind to answer to each accusation, you were a convenient target to create lots of distracting and annoying noise :grin:

[Yoyoma1910]

Are you sure it wasn't the people of Cornwallis that won?


:rolleyes4:


Thanks for the great game.... and for... uh... smothering me with Beefy's bum after having me run around like a cowboy. I thought that was really funny.


:scorpio:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki... so you did actually think i was mafia ? not just setting up an innocent for the lynch...?



I convinced myself you were...it's the best way to go as mafia, otherwise you sound insincere. Then we moved to white_eyes as a suspect, and diana in the last round.

[pevergreen]

badge? huh? :confused:

[Yoyoma1910]

badge? huh? :confused:

Yeah, all the cool hosts are giving out badges now.:beatnik:

[Askthepizzaguy]

have a pokemon badge... :pokemon:

You're an artist, yoyoma; do you want to make a badge for the Inishmore winners? Make it something Irish-like.... perhaps a fightin' leprechaun?

[Thermal]

I made one for El Diablo seeing as he won....as the scottish

It's horribly depressing, just an optional junk fixture for your sig :beam:


https://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp130/aries777777/inishmorebadge.jpg

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Maybe you can make one for taka (gf3) and seamus (settlement) next ~D

[Thermal]

Maybe you can make one for taka (gf3) and seamus (settlement) next ~D

Lol, thats the most unsubtle hint I've ever heard, be done when I wake up later on (1:30 am at the moment)


Night! (don't let the bedbugs bite....)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think Sasaki deserves a badge just for simply being the best gameroom player ever.

"Well I'll ask heem, but I don't think he'll be too keen. He's already got one, you zee?"

-He said he's already got one.
-May we see it?

"Of course not, you are Irish types-uh."

-Well what are you then?

"I'm from Ohio you silly Irish king-uh. Can't you tell from my outrageous accent?"

-What are you doing in Ireland?

"None of your business!"

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Lol, thats the most unsubtle hint I've ever heard, be done when I wake up later on (1:30 am at the moment)


Night! (don't let the bedbugs bite....)

nooo...my point was that those were fake endings as was the el diablo ending.

[Andres]

:laugh4:

[Yoyoma1910]

have a pokemon badge... :pokemon:

You're an artist, yoyoma; do you want to make a badge for the Inishmore winners? Make it something Irish-like.... perhaps a fightin' leprechaun?

Sure!


If anyone (who's of age) comes to New Orleans, I'll buy them a pint of Guinness at Molly's (http://www.mollysatthemarket.net/). There's your badge, proper for the game.

[White_eyes:D]

I am in disbelief on how right I was that Sasaki was a English grunt.....and on how GH was a Godfather....:furious3:

Did that make you guys think I was the detective or not???:sweatdrop:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Except for GH and AVSM, I got a few roles nailed myself. :laugh4: