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Kralizec
01-03-2010, 00:09
The previous tally didn't include my vote and I figured it might be messed up. Here's a recount:

Splitperson - ACIN, chaotix 2
Seon - captain c, yaropolk 2
Diamondeye - , beskar, joooray 2
Beskar - , winston 1
Winston Hughes - johnhughthom, beefy, GH, sasaki, ATPG 5
Csargo - Sprig 1
GH - YLC, diamondeye, winston hughes, scienter 4
ATPG- seon 1
yooray - scottishranger 1
YLC - tincow 1
double a - peasant phill 1
yaropolk - sigurd 1
tincow - thermal mercury, splitperson, pevergreen, A1 unit 4
sasaki - andres, Kralizec 2
scienter - captain blackadder 1
captain c - atheotes 1

abstain - Cultured Dritzz fan 1

Three notes:
1) if I misspelled your name, it was intentional
2) if people quote a post, it would be useful if they removed the "vote: person" part
3) winston hughes forgot to unvote beskar before voting GH :whip: other than that I don't see where the sudden avalanche of votes for him came from: GH, sasaki and ATPG. The obvious answer is that it was done to save Tincow, but why winston ~:shrug:

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 00:33
Let's put that tally into something more easily readable. Excellent job with the count, Kralizec.

Winston Hughes- 5 (johnhughthom, beefy, GH, sasaki, ATPG)

TinCow- 4 (thermal mercury, splitperson, pevergreen, A1 unit)
GH- 3 (YLC, diamondeye, scienter)


Splitpersonality- 2 (ACIN, Chaotix)
Seon- 2 (captain c, yaropolk)
Diamondeye- 2 (beskar, joooray)
Sasaki- 2 (andres, Kralizec)

Csargo- 1 (Sprig)
ATPG- 1 (seon)
Joooray- 1 (scottishranger)
YLC- 1 (tincow)
Double A- 1 (peasant phil)
Yaropolk- 1 (sigurd)
Beskar- 1 (Winston)
scienter- 1 (blackadder)
Captain c- 1 (atheotes)

Abstaining - Cultured Drizzt fan

Beefy187
01-03-2010, 00:38
Give Tincow a night to do his stuff.

We might lose a man if his mafia, but if his not, it will give us more to work on for day 2.

Thermal
01-03-2010, 00:44
unvote, vote: GH

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 00:46
3) winston hughes forgot to unvote beskar before voting GH other than that I don't see where the sudden avalanche of votes for him came from: GH, sasaki and ATPG. The obvious answer is that it was done to save Tincow, but why winston ~ You see, I am mafia with Sasaki, and GeneralHankerchief is our love puppet. TinCow, however, is our fierce and powerful overlord, and you'd all do well to bow down to him.

The four of us can join forces and become Field Marshall Super-Megacow the Kojiro guy.

Winston Hughes
01-03-2010, 00:46
Unless you're also claiming to be a pro-town role (fat chance) better you than me, friend.

No, I have no powers to speak of. If it's better for the innocents that I die, then so be it. That said, it would seem more sensible to lynch someone who might actually be guilty.


3) winston hughes forgot to unvote beskar before voting GH :whip:

Yes, that was remiss of me. Hence my subsequent correction.


other than that I don't see where the sudden avalanche of votes for him came from: GH, sasaki and ATPG. The obvious answer is that it was done to save Tincow, but why winston ~:shrug:

Well, I set myself up as an easy enough lynch target. Nevertheless, I think it's obvious enough to most people that I'm more likely innocent than guilty. So, I'd say those people voting for me are looking rather suspicious.

I would put ATPG at the top of the list, but I can't help wondering if he just wants to know what it feels like to outlive me in a game. :smartass2:

Beskar
01-03-2010, 00:57
You see, I am mafia with Sasaki, and GeneralHankerchief is our love puppet. TinCow, however, is our fierce and powerful overlord, and you'd all do well to bow down to him.

The four of us can join forces and become Field Marshall Super-Megacow the Kojiro guy.

The merger of TinCow and Beefy187 produces the Golden Calf, the idol which make gods tremble.

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 00:57
I would like to see this merger. Is it on Cinemax?

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 01:00
Well, I set myself up as an easy enough lynch target.

By doing what?


Nevertheless, I think it's obvious enough to most people that I'm more likely innocent than guilty. So, I'd say those people voting for me are looking rather suspicious.

Everyone is more likely innocent than guilty at this point. What you did right here is say something that is true but meaningless, and used that to cast suspicion on the people who are voting for you. Crafty :stare:

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 01:06
I have conversed with Winston, and I believe, unless he is completely devious, that he is most likely innocent. We should really pick someone else to lynch.

The bandwagon on him is... unnatural. Obviously Sasaki, GH, and ATPG all decided together to create a voting bloc on him. That only makes you three look particularly suspicious. Pick someone else. Give him the benefit of the doubt and turn the bloc on a more worthy target.

Thermal
01-03-2010, 01:07
I agree sasaki, almost...blackmail.... :inquisitive:

Having said that, I'm still voting for GH for starting the bandwagon in the first place. :grin:

Winston Hughes
01-03-2010, 01:10
By doing what?

By bothering to defend myself, instead of just ignoring what was an extremely weak accusation. Of course, I had my reasons for doing so, but none of them had anything to do with my being guilty of the killings.


Everyone is more likely innocent than guilty at this point. What you did right here is say something that is true but meaningless, and used that to cast suspicion on the people who are voting for you. Crafty :stare:

Not quite. My comments about the people voting for me are intended for after I'm dead. The funny thing is that you lot who've voted for me are making out that I've been trying to protect myself from being lynched, despite much evidence to the contrary. If I was desperate to survive, I would've shut up ages ago (cue more faux-horrified cries of "he's WIFOMing, lynch him!)

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 01:10
That only makes you three look particularly suspicious.

Yes, because mafia team members always vote together in a bloc on the first day, especially crafty veteran ones. I like how everything that anyone ever could possibly do is "suspicious" at times, and not at others.

I'm nyat budging unless someone gives me a durn good reason, and Chaotix, that's nyat good enough.


I have conversed with Winston, and I believe, unless he is completely devious, that he is most likely innocent.

I like you and respect you, Chaotix, but no thank you. I've been mafia with Winston, and he isn't a newbie player. I need more than a gut feeling. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcsVPis1iNs)

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 01:14
I have conversed with Winston, and I believe, unless he is completely devious, that he is most likely innocent. We should really pick someone else to lynch.

The bandwagon on him is... unnatural. Obviously Sasaki, GH, and ATPG all decided together to create a voting bloc on him. That only makes you three look particularly suspicious. Pick someone else. Give him the benefit of the doubt and turn the bloc on a more worthy target.

When we decided not to lynch TinCow, GH was next up in votes so he picked someone random to vote. I like GH so I voted with him. How is the three of us working together suspicious and you trying to save Winston not suspicious?


By bothering to defend myself, instead of just ignoring what was an extremely weak accusation. Of course, I had my reasons for doing so, but none of them had anything to do with my being guilty of the killings.


Is that why GH voted you?



Not quite. My comments about the people voting for me are intended for after I'm dead. The funny thing is that you lot who've voted for me are making out that I've been trying to protect myself from being lynched, despite much evidence to the contrary. If I was desperate to survive, I would've shut up ages ago (cue more faux-horrified cries of "he's WIFOMing, lynch him!)

No, this is false. I pointed out that your reasoning was bogus and you were using it to attack your accusers.

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 01:18
So you admit to forming a bloc, and you give a WIFOM defense. Excellent tactic.

What makes Winston so guilty, then?

During my conversation with him I put him in such a position that any mafia would choose the same answer. Unless he anticipated my move and tried to passive-aggressively manipulate me, then he is definitely a townie. And if it turns out I am wrong, then I will know it very shortly, provided he survives.

To go into any more detail would be suicide for me. Let him live, and pick a low-key bandwagoner instead, like Seon.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 01:23
So you admit to forming a bloc, and you give a WIFOM defense. Excellent tactic.

What makes Winston so guilty, then?
When did we claim winston was guilty? What's wrong with voting blocs? What was wifom about our defense? Why do you say that it's an "excellent tactic"?


During my conversation with him I put him in such a position that any mafia would choose the same answer. Unless he anticipated my move and tried to passive-aggressively manipulate me, then he is definitely a townie. And if it turns out I am wrong, then I will know it very shortly, provided he survives.

I find this highly doubtful.


To go into any more detail would be suicide for me. Let him live, and pick a low-key bandwagoner instead, like Seon.

You aren't voting for Seon.

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 01:26
So you admit to forming a bloc, and you give a WIFOM defense. Excellent tactic.

It is an excellent tactic, because it is working perfectly. Nothing can stop us now! muhuhaahahaha


What makes Winston so guilty, then?

His role PM?


During my conversation with him I put him in such a position that any mafia would choose the same answer. Unless he anticipated my move and tried to passive-aggressively manipulate me, then he is definitely a townie. And if it turns out I am wrong, then I will know it very shortly, provided he survives.

:inquisitive:


To go into any more detail would be suicide for me. Let him live, and pick a low-key bandwagoner instead, like Seon.

Oh how you like to tempt me. I can smells it from here.

unvotes, votes for Seon,
Chaotix: A-ha! You just want to kill someone who votes for you! Scummy!
Massive ATPG bandwagon
Pizzaguy: *Bleck!!!*
Game over.

You're so crafty. But I'm craftier, with my obviously scummy bloc-forming.

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 01:27
When did we claim winston was guilty? What's wrong with voting blocs? What was wifom about our defense? Why do you say that it's an "excellent tactic"?



I find this highly doubtful.



You aren't voting for Seon.


There's nothing wrong with a voting bloc so long as you're not voting for a likely innocent. Further, the defense that "mafia don't form voting blocs" that ATPG gave is certainly WIFOM.

You may doubt what you will, but you do not know for sure.

Finally, I will vote for someone like Seon once I see that it will make a difference. I don't want either TinCow or GH to die, but neither to I want Winston to.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 01:28
There's nothing wrong with a voting bloc so long as you're not voting for a likely innocent. Further, the defense that "mafia don't form voting blocs" that ATPG gave is certainly WIFOM.


If the defense is WIFOM, then so is the accusation. WIFOM is cross-transitive.

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 01:34
If the defense is WIFOM, then so is the accusation. WIFOM is cross-transitive.

True enough.

I see that you probably won't be convinced with this alone, and I won't be sticking my neck out further. Lynch away!

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 01:35
chief;2406948]Right then, all aboard the bandwagon!

https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5050/emotbandwagonqr2.gif

Unvote: Winston Hughes
Vote: Seon

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 01:35
Finally, I will vote for someone like Seon once I see that it will make a difference. I don't want either TinCow or GH to die, but neither to I want Winston to.

How very interesting. Why don't you want GH to die? TinCow I get, Winston... not really, but here's an odd name.

I see why I don't want GH to die, and I see why Sasaki and TinCow doesn't want him to die, but why you, Chaotix? Does GeneralHankerchief make your heart go aflutter, as he does with me? Or are you just trying to mimic the crowd's desire not to lynch him to blend in?

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 01:38
How very interesting. Why don't you want GH to die? TinCow I get, Winston... not really, but here's an odd name.

I see why I don't want GH to die, and I see why Sasaki and TinCow doesn't want him to die, but why you, Chaotix? Does GeneralHankerchief make your heart go aflutter, as he does with me? Or are you just trying to mimic the crowd's desire not to lynch him to blend in?

No, GH and TinCow are just too useful to go out in the first round, mafia or not.

That said, I don't see beyond that reason why you guys want him to live so much, either.

Now that the wagon is rolling,

Unvote, Vote: Seon

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 01:47
No, GH and TinCow are just too useful to go out in the first round, mafia or not.

Bah. Everyone here could be useful if given a chance.


That said, I don't see beyond that reason why you guys want him to live so much, either.

I try not to go for Sasaki right away because someone harasses him on the first night all the time, either a block, investigation, or conversion. I'd be annoyed if that kept happening to me, and when it did happen to me, I mentioned it. That's not cool. If Sasaki's a good player, why not allow him to demonstrate such once every other game or so.

TinCow; well I don't like to lynch someone who's been absent from these games on the first round. Second round, perhaps. :grin:

GeneralHankerchief: I wanted him dead, but he changed my mind. He's got very attractive eyes. :eyebrows:

And if all this is meta-gaming, well I change it up and sometimes I go ahead and do the opposite, so it cancels itself out. I shall vote for Seon purely for benefit of the doubt reasons. Something good had better come out of all this, or it will raise my suspicion level.

unvote, vote: Seon

woad&fangs
01-03-2010, 01:51
Finally caught up on this game. I really don't like any of the lynch options at this point but I will vote: ATPG because his name always makes me hungry.

I do have a few other thoughts. First, the mafia is large enough that trying to figure out who they are based on kill choices is useless. Second, TinCow claiming a pro-town role is scary:sweatdrop: Third, I assume there will be at least one role capable of necromancy, so we should keep that in mind. Finally, in the last game the mafia all had a unique power, but they had to figure out what that power was by themselves. It might be a good idea to figure out what mythological deities/creatures we are up against so we can figure out what tricks they may be capable of.:book:

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 01:52
Finally caught up on this game. I really don't like any of the lynch options at this point but I will vote: ATPG because his name always makes me hungry.

I do have a few other thoughts. First, the mafia is large enough that trying to figure out who they are based on kill choices is useless. Second, TinCow claiming a pro-town role is scary:sweatdrop: Third, I assume there will be at least one role capable of necromancy, so we should keep that in mind. Finally, in the last game the mafia all had a unique power, but they had to figure out what that power was by themselves. It might be a good idea to figure out what mythological deities/creatures we are up against so we can figure out what tricks they may be capable of.:book:

We don't want to help them out if they have to figure out the power themselves.

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 01:52
Finally caught up on this game. I really don't like any of the lynch options at this point but I will vote: ATPG because his name always makes me hungry.

This is perhaps the best reason ever.

Thanks, you just made my day. :bounce:

seireikhaan
01-03-2010, 02:12
The round will be over in two hours and fourty eight minutes, exactly. Any votes past that pont will be null. The leader at that moment in votes will be lynched. Hopefully I'll be able to be online for to do the writeup quickly. Night will begin after the time limit has expired.

Winston Hughes
01-03-2010, 02:40
I suppose this is the point where I'm supposed to switch my vote to Seon, thus making my own survival more likely. Of course, Seon's nearly always a villain, so it would seem a good move all round. But I'm more convinced of my own uselessness, and GH's suspiciousness, than I am of Seon's being a good target, so I think I'll leave things just as they are.

pevergreen
01-03-2010, 02:55
Blah blah blah

If TC hadn't claimed, I wouldn't care, but he claimed and I'm voting for him until its proved otherwise.

Yaropolk
01-03-2010, 05:23
Just went through and double checked the Tally accounting for edited posts, forgetting to unvote, hanging chads, etc. Kralizec was off - CDF edited his vote post, voiding it, so he is still on Winston. Here is the tally as of this post:

Seon (Yaro, Captain C, Sasaki, Chaotix, ATPG) 5
GH (YLC, Diamondeye, Winston Hughes, Scienter, Thermal) 5
Winston Hughes (Johnhughthom, CDF, Beefy, GH) 4
Tincow ( split, Pever, A1Unit)3
Diamondeye (Beskar, Jooray) 2
Sasaki (Andres, Kralizec) 2
Beskar (Winston Hughes)
Csargo (Sprig)
ATPG (Seon)
Jooray (Scottishranger)
YLC (Tincow)
Double A (Peasant Phill)
Yaro (Sigurd)
Scienter (CB)
Captain C (Atheotes)
Split (acin)

Seon
01-03-2010, 05:27
Oooh Oooh does that mean I am lynched with GH? :D

GOOD.:angel:

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 06:01
I actually don't think editing a post with a vote in it is a problem... it's only if the vote was edited into the post that it is void. At least, that's the policy most game hosts take.

GeneralHankerchief
01-03-2010, 06:20
Pre-emptive strike.

Unvote: Winston
Vote: Seon

Double A
01-03-2010, 06:22
I'm still here...

vote: Seon

I kinda just skimmed 3-10.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 06:22
If it was tied 5-5, I think that one broke it.

seireikhaan
01-03-2010, 06:26
Indeed, it was tied. GH's vote unbroke it, and Double A's vote does not count. Seon is lynched. Writeup to follow. Orders, please. Only 24 hours this time.

GeneralHankerchief
01-03-2010, 06:31
*slaps five all around*

Good work, uber-veteran mafia team.

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 06:31
WOOOT! MAFIA RULES, TOWNIES DROOL!!!

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 06:36
~:pimp:

seireikhaan
01-03-2010, 06:44
The session proved chaotic. Governor-General Yasei had not quite anticipated the flurry of activity that would ensue. He knew things might be tense, but panicked...? This was a bit concerning, were those assigned to this encampment not made of stronger stuff than this? The scribe had to replace his pen twice, due to breaking it early on while attempting to keep record of all the accusations. After an exhaustive interrogation of multiple entities, the final blame rested, narrowly, with Seon. Two guards escorted him to face the Governor-General, though restraint was unneeded. For reasons beyond most rationality, Seon seemed quite content with being thrown to his demise. Governor-General Yasei read the list of accusations in order to the condemned, then requested any last objections. With a grin on his face, Seon replied, "Nope." Raising an eyebrow, Yasei nonetheless requested his sword from security. The guard knelt before him, offering a shimmering, straight longsword. With Seon kneeling before him, Yasei flourished the sword once, then plunged it directly into the back of Seon's head.

"Now, back to your jobs!" he commanded to those in the hall. "And for Elder's sake, STAY VIGILANT!" The hall slowly emptied as all shuffled out, with a mix of optimism, caution, and fear. Yasei handed the bloodied sword back to be cleaned, then retreated to his quarters.


Tally:

Seon 6 (Yaro, Captain C, Sasaki, Chaotix, ATPG, GH)
GH 5 (YLC, Diamondeye, Winston Hughes, Scienter, Thermal)
Winston Hughes 3 (Johnhughthom, CDF, Beefy)
Tincow 3 (splitpersonality, pevergreen, A1Unit)
Diamondeye 2 (Beskar, Jooray)
Sasaki 2 (Andres, Kralizec)
Beskar 1 (Winston Hughes)
Csargo 1 (Sprig)
ATPG 1 (Seon)
Jooray 1 (Scottishranger)
YLC 1 (Tincow)
Double A 1 (Peasant Phill)
Yaro 1 (Sigurd)
Scienter 1 (CB)
Captain C 1 (Atheotes)
Split 1 (acin)


Alive: 36

A1_Unit
A completely inoffensive name
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Atheotes
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Captain C
CCRunner
Centurion1
Chaotix
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Diamondeye
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhugthom
Jooray
Kralizec
Peasant Phill
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Scienter
Sigurd
slashandburn
splitpersonality
Sprig
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Winston Hughes
woad&fangs
Yaropolk
YLC


Slain: 3

A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)



Lynched: 1

Seon (D1)

Seon
01-03-2010, 07:48
See ya all in heaven, mwahahahahaha. ;)

Peasant Phill
01-03-2010, 11:25
Whoohoo, I survived D1. Now i just need a secret place to hide fro the mafia.

just don't look behind the crates there in the corner

Andres
01-03-2010, 12:32
I am seriously claiming pro town.

All townies are pro town.

ULC
01-03-2010, 13:11
Well, I guess tonight will only be half of my work done :laugh4:

I can split it out over a few nights I suppose.

Beefy187
01-03-2010, 13:20
All townies are pro town.

His right. Pro towns aren't the only townies. After all, plain old townies are the backbones of the team :yes:

Now back to my :curtain:

pevergreen
01-03-2010, 14:23
His right. Pro towns aren't the only townies. After all, plain old townies are the backbones of the team :yes:

Now back to my :curtain:

Congrats on 5k posts Beefy.

We got a bit of a group together today for Xian's birthday. We thought of you. Mostly drama things, like that one where we went from the library to the chapel. :beam:

Beefy187
01-03-2010, 14:28
*Gasp!

Completely forgot about my 5k..
Thanks pever :2thumbsup:

I miss you lot :bigcry:
Yes that running around drama was heaps fun :2thumbsup:
I was going to pay you a visit, but I'm off to Canada instead Sorry about that.

Beskar
01-03-2010, 14:39
All townies are pro town.

Actually, the term is "pro-townie".

Townie - Joe Bloggs random person of the town with no abilities or anything.
Pro-Town(ie) - A non-town who is working on the side of the town.

pevergreen
01-03-2010, 14:52
You're telling him that?

:laugh4:

Beskar
01-03-2010, 15:20
Andres hasn't been returning my love letters recently. :cry:

Diamondeye
01-03-2010, 15:24
Right, it should be competely obvious by now that ATPG, GH and Sasaki are mafia. Case solved!

:book:

:dizzy2:

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 17:06
Right, it should be competely obvious by now that ATPG, GH and Sasaki are mafia. Case solved!

:book:

:dizzy2:

We aren't "mafia". We may not just be plain townies, but that isn't really any of your business now is it? :whip:

Andres
01-03-2010, 17:34
We aren't "mafia". We may not just be plain townies, but that isn't really any of your business now is it? :whip:

In Netherworld I, town followed the lead of someone who wasn't "just a plain townie"...

:inquisitive:

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 18:14
In Netherworld I, town followed the lead of someone who wasn't "just a plain townie"...

:inquisitive:

As it that makes a difference.

Andres
01-03-2010, 18:24
As it that makes a difference.

It does make a difference.

For instance, I'm a bit more sceptic when people allude on having some shady "not just a plain townie" role.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-03-2010, 18:26
It does make a difference.

For instance, I'm a bit more sceptic when people allude on having some shady "not just a plain townie" role.

I never claimed that...

Thermal
01-03-2010, 18:31
Hey why do all the important members get power roles? :grin:

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 18:54
HEY! Would you guys keep it down? The General and I are discussing who to murder, and let me tell YOU something, with your gums constantly flapping, I'm seriously considering killing whoever talks next!

Kralizec
01-03-2010, 18:54
Lurker index:
Centurion1, Csargo, Psychonaut, slashandburn didn´t vote. Only Csargo posted after the start of the game, but that was a frivolous one.

Unless we don't hear from the people above and provided that nothing else happens, I still say we lynch Sasaki or one of the other members of his little gang.

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 18:55
That does it. Kralizec, you absolutely have to die.

Kralizec
01-03-2010, 18:59
I realise that you're trying for the image of innocent, sarcastic townie but there is such a thing as overacting... :coffee:

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 19:13
Ah, but I'm pretending to be myself as a townie, so... I must also pretend not to know where the line is, and cross it repeatedly, because that's what I would have done, were I an innocent townie, which I am not.

:clown:

Chaotix
01-03-2010, 19:18
Ah, but I'm pretending to be myself as a townie, so... I must also pretend not to know where the line is, and cross it repeatedly, because that's what I would have done, were I an innocent townie, which I am not.

:clown:

And you almost lynched Winston for WIFOM! Shame on you!

:laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 19:20
Oh speaking of which.

Yaseikhaan, I haven't gotten my role PM yet.... could you send it to me please?

Thermal
01-03-2010, 19:37
Oh speaking of which.

Yaseikhaan, I haven't gotten my role PM yet.... could you send it to me please?


It consists of this, I think


'






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Cultured Drizzt fan
01-03-2010, 20:09
It consists of this, I think

No quoting the host :whip: even if you just added two apostrophes

:laugh4:

Splitpersonality
01-03-2010, 20:29
Oh speaking of which.

Yaseikhaan, I haven't gotten my role PM yet.... could you send it to me please?


I got mine, and it says that you're my partner, so I guess we have the same role. Want me to forward it to you?

:clown:

Centurion1
01-03-2010, 21:23
hey i finally finished reading all 11 pages.


wow........ its been two days, one night? thats about all ivepicked up, oh and that the mafia killed three people.

Askthepizzaguy
01-03-2010, 21:26
I thought it was two people.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

White_eyes:D
01-03-2010, 21:33
Leave a dead person alone....:no:

Makes me laugh to think Sasaki kept voting for a dead guy:laugh4::laugh4:

seireikhaan
01-04-2010, 02:12
Little under three hours for orders.

seireikhaan
01-04-2010, 04:59
My apologies, I had a slight snafoo with the writups and they'll be delayed approximately a half hour.

seireikhaan
01-04-2010, 05:25
Captain C was idling his time away in his quarters. Patrol was necessary, sure, but couldn't he at least get a different patrol every now and then? For now, he was burning time by carving drawings into the floor with a knife. His current project was a mountain range. For the moment, this consisted of three identical triangles in a row. Captain C sighed. He would admit, he was no artist, but at least this was more interesting than the same patrol he did an hour ago, and the patrol he would do in another hour, and the hour after that. It was this in this state that he heard a faint knock on his door. He got up to open it, but before he got to it, it creaked open. A woman's face peeked in. She had brilliant green eyes, hair as dark as night, and very defined facial features. "I don't suppose you'd accept the company of lonely little me, would you?" She asked him. There was the faintest hint of a sly smile on her face, which did not escape the attention of Captain C.

"Oh, but of course!" he exclaimed. Please, come in, come in!" The lady merely smiled a bit more coyly, tilted her head, and exposed some of her neck. Captain C walked up to her, extending his hand. "Please, come in," he said in what he hoped was a reassuring voice. The woman's smile suddenly grew much wider, exposing sharp fangs. The door blew open as she charged through. Her right hand went directly for Captain C's throat. She picked him up with one hand, raising him higher and higher. The rest of her body had come through the door, exposing womanly torso, attached to a lengthy, limbless, lower body. She coiled up on the floor. She dropped Captain C, only to catch him, wrapping her lower body around him. He struggled to breath, let alone speak, as his attacker loomed over top of him. She bent her upper body to the floor, picking up the knife which Captain C dropped. The attacker tilted her head back and forth, watching her opponent slowly suffocate, twiddling the knife in her hands, seeming to be indecisive. Finally, she made up her mind, thrusting the knife through the skull of Captain C, before dropping his limp body to the floor.





Splitpersonality was lounging at the end of the security fence on the western edge of the encampment. Or rather, he was pretending to be alert and focused while his mind was off in a fantastic beach, canoodling with all manner of woman. His pleasant day dream was interrupted when he heard hard steps, like those of a horse. Snapping his attention to that which was in front of him, he finally noticed the being before him, perched on a water buffalo. It occurred to him that this was likely one of the people attacking the encampment! He ran forward at the intruder, pulling a sword from his sheath, brandishing it wildly. The intruder laughed gently, then flung the rope in its right hand at splitpersonality, successfully wrapping it around his sword arm. With a jerk, it slammed him down to the ground. Then, it lifted him up, bringing splitpersonality to eye level with it while still perched on its steed. It grabbed his sword by the blade with its free hand, flipped it, and rammed it through splitpersonality's gut. Now that its victim was done struggling, the intruder turned its steed around, dragging the body behind it.







Being trapped between the Netherworld and the realm of Man led to some unorthodox geography for the borderlands. It was this that slashandburn was pondering on as he rested on his reconnaissance trip. He just finished his descent past the mountain where it was rumored that A Very Super Market had vanished. Now in front of him lay a large wasteland of murky swamps, which ran into the the distance, interrupted after a great length by a colossal glacier that could be seen from afar. Why he had been assigned the exploration of this miserable swamp he was not sure. All he wished was that someone else had gotten it. The slowly bubbling water did not look inviting...

Finally steeling his resolve, he took the plunge into the waist-deep water. "This'll take forever..." he thought to himself, looking in all directions and seeing naught but trees and water. Nevertheless, he trudged onwards. After a few steps, however, he snagged on something. His right foot seemed stuck where it was. "Come on!" he exclaimed, yanking violently. Finally,with a snap, his foot came free. He still felt something on it, however... He found a large rock that emerged from the water a few feet away, and made his way to climb it. Finally out of the water, he plopped himself up and turned his head to examine his foot. A mix of horror and confusion overtook his face. A hand? Yes, it was, it was definitely a hand. A hand that was still gripping quite hard onto his ankle. He reached to yank the accursed extremity away when a loud splash came from behind him. He turned just in time to see the face of an attacker that had launched itself out of the water. A Very Super Market landed onto slashandburn's shoulder before he could get turned all the way. Momentum took the two sliding off the slick rock, plunging back into the water, each thrashing and clawing desperately at the other. The two desperately struggled against the other, before AVSM finally got the upperhand by getting a clean launch at slashandburn's chest, pinning him to the trunk of a narrow tree. Slashandburn had exhausted himself beyond the point of struggling more, settling for glaring at his attacker's face. He felt a tickling sensation up his body. The hand that had grabbed him early was scratching and climbing it's way up him. His attacker lent out a stump of a right arm, and the hand hopped onto it. Rotting flesh melted with yet more rotting flesh, and AVSM flexed his right hand in the face of his victim. Still pinning slashandburn with his left hand, AVSM reached up, grabbing a tree limb and snapping it off. And with gleeful abandon, the shard of wood was rammed through the face of slashandburn. The victim slumped, and its attacker let go. Without warning, AVSM collapsed just as his victim, floating alongside it in the murky water.



Alive: 33

A1_Unit
A completely inoffensive name
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Atheotes
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
CCRunner
Centurion1
Chaotix
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Diamondeye
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhugthom
Jooray
Kralizec
Peasant Phill
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Scienter
Sigurd
Sprig
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Winston Hughes
woad&fangs
Yaropolk
YLC


Slain: 6

A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)
Captain C (N2)
splitpersonality (N2)
slashandburn (N2)



Lynched: 1

Seon (D1)


BEGIN DAY TWO! YOU HAVE JUST OVER 24 HOURS.

Splitpersonality
01-04-2010, 05:28
Bad move mafia... I could've been a good scapegoat!

Avenge me tooooooooooooooooooooooown~

:clown:

CCRunner
01-04-2010, 06:03
Splitpersonality's killer is Yama, the Hindu God of Death.
Yama is a Lokapāla and an Aditya. In art, he is depicted with green or red skin, red clothes, and riding a water buffalo. He holds a loop of rope in his left hand with which he pulls the soul from the corpse. He is the son of Surya (Sun) and twin brother of Yami, or Yamuna, traditionally the first human pair in the Vedas. He was also worshiped as a son of Vivasvat and Saranya. He is one of the Guardians of the directions and represents the south. He is described as reporting to either Vishnu (the maintainer) or Shiva (the destroyer) from the Trimurti (Hinduism's triune Godhead). Three hymns (10, 14, and 135) in the Rig Veda Book 10 are addressed to him.
And Captain C's is a vampire

"Please, come in,"{Invitation} he said in what he hoped was a reassuring voice. The woman's smile suddenly grew much wider, exposing sharp fangs.give me some time to google to find a good guess as to which one.

Chaotix
01-04-2010, 06:03
So.....

AVSM is dead, but he's doing night kills.

Should we lynch him? Can we lynch him?

CCRunner
01-04-2010, 06:44
Female vampire like monsters are the Soucouyant of Trinidad, and the Tunda and Patasola of Colombian folklore, while the Mapuche of southern Chile have the bloodsucking snake known as the Peuchen.I think I've found another of our killers...

GeneralHankerchief
01-04-2010, 06:46
Vote: AVSM

CCRunner
01-04-2010, 07:01
May as well do every kill while I'm at it. AVSM was Yama, Khazaar was probably the vampire thing but that's mostly a guess out of lazyness. White Eyes's killer reminds me of Achilles for some reason. SlashandBurn reminds me of teh Dead Marshes from LotR but the only real (figuratively speaking) thing I can think of is the River Styx which imo is completely wrong. The glacier in the marsh must be significant...Norse maybe?

Sasaki Kojiro
01-04-2010, 07:01
And you all laughed at me for voting white_eyes.

seireikhaan
01-04-2010, 07:28
Actually, on further review, I will extend the round for twelve hours, for a 36 hour phase. I will give an exact time a bit later. I will go with 36 hour day phases for the next several day phases, and will lower it if/when the number of active, living participants decreases substantially.

Csargo
01-04-2010, 07:45
Vote: GH

Tally:
1 - GH (Csargo)
1 - AVSM (GH)

Diamondeye
01-04-2010, 08:51
That information is interesting, CC, thanks for digging it up (and welcome back!).

I think we can safely assume that you're correct concerning the identity of the water-buffalo-riding killer and the snake-woman. However, I was wondering, concerning AVSM's killer (who I think killed S&B aswell since AVSM was mentioned in the update)... Styx would be a fair bid. Then, Achilles (who is dead) would be the one performing his kill the first night, and now, AVSM is the one doing the kill because he's dead. I think that would be safe to assume is the pattern if S&B kills someone tomorrow.

And no use in voting against dead people, I think, I'll decide on a vote when I get home from school :(

Andres
01-04-2010, 12:07
Maybe someone resurrected AVSM and used him to do a killing?

Anyway, since he's on the list of dead players, I don't see the point of voting him.

Captain C
01-04-2010, 12:26
Someone killed me? :skull:

Oh well atleast according to the rules I can still post, so you'll all still be able to read my insightful commentary :aquarius:

Seon
01-04-2010, 13:29
Mwahahhaha, that is right foolish mortals. We, the ex-mortals are coming back to haunt you all.

Make no attempt to resist. All your bases are already belong to us now.

Captain Blackadder
01-04-2010, 13:41
Hmmm strange a dead player coming back to life to kill again. Interesting game mechanic.

Beskar
01-04-2010, 14:51
A snake woman reminds me of Medusa, but doesn't Medusa turn people into stone when they look at her?

However, I loved the write-up and it is strange seeing AVSM more active than he has been so far!

Seon
01-04-2010, 14:56
It may possibly be a Naga...

CCRunner
01-04-2010, 15:47
A snake woman reminds me of Medusa, but doesn't Medusa turn people into stone when they look at her?My first thought too (thank you age of mythology!) but yeah, the stone thing would be a major problem.

It may possibly be a Naga...
I like that idea, it fits with Yama. Which may mean the marsh with a glacier is also hindu...

TinCow
01-04-2010, 15:52
It appears we have a missing killer. There are 4 separate kill signatures so far.

Yama - AVSM (N1) and split (N2)
Vampire-ish woman with knife (Naga?) - Khazaar (N1) and Captain C (N2)

That leaves 2 kills, W_E and slashandburn. W_E was killed by a warrior with a shield, lance, and sword. slashandburn was killed by the animated corpse of AVSM. Those kills don't seem remotely similar to me.

So, W_E's killer was absent last night, and we have a new killer who appears to use the dead to do his work.

Beskar
01-04-2010, 17:12
Those two kills might not be the same. The first one they charged in with a knife and would probably discribe it as beast-like. Medusa/Naga/Snake-Vampire was far more subtle, and the knife she had was taken from the victim.

Copy and pasted here -

"How dull... how terribly, awfully dull...." thought Khazaar. He sat at a table, deep in the compound. "Administrative duty, what luck to be assigned this..." There was a knock at the door to his front. "In," he told the visitor. When there was no response for about ten seconds, he repeated himself, only louder. He got off his chair, irritated, and walked towards the door. Upon his hand touching the knob, the door exploded with force. The visitor had lowered it's shoulder and charged through the door, splintering it and knocking Khazaar back. It snarled angrily, swinging a knife into Khazaar's shoulder. Taking advantage, it tackled Khazaar to the floor, jaws snapping into his face, the knife being brought to bear repeatedly into his torso. The butchery continued well past the point Khazaar had ceased resisting, lasting for nearly 10 minutes as the intruder carved the body beyond recognition.....


Captain C was idling his time away in his quarters. Patrol was necessary, sure, but couldn't he at least get a different patrol every now and then? For now, he was burning time by carving drawings into the floor with a knife. His current project was a mountain range. For the moment, this consisted of three identical triangles in a row. Captain C sighed. He would admit, he was no artist, but at least this was more interesting than the same patrol he did an hour ago, and the patrol he would do in another hour, and the hour after that. It was this in this state that he heard a faint knock on his door. He got up to open it, but before he got to it, it creaked open. A woman's face peeked in. She had brilliant green eyes, hair as dark as night, and very defined facial features. "I don't suppose you'd accept the company of lonely little me, would you?" She asked him. There was the faintest hint of a sly smile on her face, which did not escape the attention of Captain C.

"Oh, but of course!" he exclaimed. Please, come in, come in!" The lady merely smiled a bit more coyly, tilted her head, and exposed some of her neck. Captain C walked up to her, extending his hand. "Please, come in," he said in what he hoped was a reassuring voice. The woman's smile suddenly grew much wider, exposing sharp fangs. The door blew open as she charged through. Her right hand went directly for Captain C's throat. She picked him up with one hand, raising him higher and higher. The rest of her body had come through the door, exposing womanly torso, attached to a lengthy, limbless, lower body. She coiled up on the floor. She dropped Captain C, only to catch him, wrapping her lower body around him. He struggled to breath, let alone speak, as his attacker loomed over top of him. She bent her upper body to the floor, picking up the knife which Captain C dropped. The attacker tilted her head back and forth, watching her opponent slowly suffocate, twiddling the knife in her hands, seeming to be indecisive. Finally, she made up her mind, thrusting the knife through the skull of Captain C, before dropping his limp body to the floor.

Diamondeye
01-04-2010, 17:12
TinCow, I commented on that difference earlier on this page. You could of course also be right about that being two different people. Or it could be Hades himself, using the dead? He's greek mythology, after all. That would make a "Greek baddies and Hindu baddies" theory viable with the new information available.

Hmm. Don't know who to vote on. Have we seen pevergreen yet?

Seon
01-04-2010, 17:13
Perhaps Tincow had a slip of the tongue? ;)

Beskar
01-04-2010, 17:15
Perhaps Tincow had a slip of the tongue? ;)

With a wink like that with that statement, only thought to my mind was "Hopefully not the sort that would get him introuble with his Missus"

TinCow
01-04-2010, 17:16
Those two kills might not be the same. The first one they charged in with a knife and would probably discribe it as beast-like. Medusa/Naga/Snake-Vampire was far more subtle, and the knife she had was taken from the victim.

Copy and pasted here -

Possibly, but notice the "jaws snapping into his face" bit from the first kill, which seems similar to her "sharp fangs" in the second kill. That said, the first kill is refereed to as "it" while the second it clearly female. I'll accept that the jury is still out on whether those were both the same, either theory is plausible.

Captain C
01-04-2010, 17:36
Well the one that killed me had the lower half of a snake, I have a hard time picturing it breaking down a door like the one in the first night kill did. The first killer's description seemed more like a bear than a snake to me.

I dont think it's the same killer, but perhaps they're both part of some sort of animal type faction.

ULC
01-04-2010, 17:47
Vote: TinCow

Yaropolk
01-04-2010, 17:48
Anyone want to denounce Tincow?

ULC
01-04-2010, 17:55
Anyone want to denounce Tincow?

For more then trying to look into the night kills as if they were clues? Making more of a mess then the quite simply "3 night kills a night, 3 night killers"? Unless on this following night, the pattern deviates and we have 5 night kills, then their is no real point in analyzing the night write ups based upon kills because -

1. They are killing us, and thus they must go.
2. Each kill is done by the same person, or belong to the same team

Sasaki Kojiro
01-04-2010, 18:01
Vote:Yaropolk

Beskar
01-04-2010, 18:11
For more then trying to look into the night kills as if they were clues? Making more of a mess then the quite simply "3 night kills a night, 3 night killers"? Unless on this following night, the pattern deviates and we have 5 night kills, then their is no real point in analyzing the night write ups based upon kills because -

1. They are killing us, and thus they must go.
2. Each kill is done by the same person, or belong to the same team

I wish people paid more attention to Night Write-ups, sometimes they are far from just filler. Though while it is argued to be too early, there are some interesting things to be found in Khaan's write-ups from simply what I have noticed, but it is too early to tell.

Yaropolk
01-04-2010, 18:13
For more then trying to look into the night kills as if they were clues? Making more of a mess then the quite simply "3 night kills a night, 3 night killers"? Unless on this following night, the pattern deviates and we have 5 night kills, then their is no real point in analyzing the night write ups based upon kills because -

1. They are killing us, and thus they must go.
2. Each kill is done by the same person, or belong to the same team

No, not for looking into night kills. It's because he claimed to be a pro town power role, so I bet that investigators were all over him like flies on honey. So either hes

a) lying, and its worth for an investigator to reveal himself so we can lynch a baddie
or
b) a power role, in which case investigators wont speak up (no reason to reveal themselves) and we should treat him like a CI and stop voting for him like you did above.

Sasaki - I'm well aware that by posting this it looks like I'm fishing for investigator reveals. However it needed to be said and someone might as well bite the bullet. I doubt an actual mafioso would risk coming right out and saying it, and investigators are afraid they'll get spotted this way as well. Better me than an actual investigator coming out to say something. Now get your stinking vote off me you damn dirty ape!

Yaropolk
01-04-2010, 18:19
Vote: GH

Tally:
1 - GH (Csargo)
1 - AVSM (GH)

And Vote: CSargo - 0 posts to date other than a single vote without any reasoning this morning.

ULC
01-04-2010, 18:27
No, not for looking into night kills. It's because he claimed to be a pro town power role, so I bet that investigators were all over him like flies on honey. So either hes

a) lying, and its worth for an investigator to reveal himself so we can lynch a baddie
or
b) a power role, in which case investigators wont speak up (no reason to reveal themselves) and we should treat him like a CI and stop voting for him like you did above.

Sasaki - I'm well aware that by posting this it looks like I'm fishing for investigator reveals. However it needed to be said and someone might as well bite the bullet. I doubt an actual mafioso would risk coming right out and saying it, and investigators are afraid they'll get spotted this way as well. Better me than an actual investigator coming out to say something. Now get your sinking vote off me you damn dirty ape!

I'm not voting based upon soley what I said, but more or less what the town, as a whole, agreed upon last round - give TC one more round. He has be given that round, for those to investigate who can - nothing has come up, even through proxies.

TC is not what he says he is, and he has lied to the town. Therefore, he should die, if by that judgment alone.

Beskar
01-04-2010, 18:35
Hypothetically speaking, lets say those kills were different and TinCow was a mafia. Would him arguing it was the same (on the night he was investigated) be an attempt to try to show that "That same Mafia last night was killed again, it isn't me!" when it could be a case of not all the Mafia kill in one night (cue: Mafia Mongolia) thus he has a vested interest in saying those kills are the same and not different.

Obviously that is hypothetical, with the implication from YLC that he was investigated and nothing was shown about him.

TinCow
01-04-2010, 18:37
TC is not what he says he is, and he has lied to the town.

Prove it.

ULC
01-04-2010, 18:43
Prove it.

I don't have to prove anything TC - the burden of proof is on you since you said that you were protown, it is you who has to prove that you are protown, not have the town prove you are.

Askthepizzaguy
01-04-2010, 18:47
Prove it.

Vote: TinCow

As you wish

TinCow
01-04-2010, 18:49
I don't have to prove anything TC - the burden of proof is on you since you said that you were protown, it is you who has to prove that you are protown, not have the town prove you are.

Nope, the burden is on you. As others have noted, I've made myself pretty much the highest priority target for investigations. If I'm scum, those results will come out soon enough.

Askthepizzaguy
01-04-2010, 18:53
Nope, the burden is on you. As others have noted, I've made myself pretty much the highest priority target for investigations. If I'm scum, those results will come out soon enough.

I would argue that the votes from the previous round "made you the highest priority target" for investigations. You claimed because you were going to die, so let's not pretend you took a big risk here. The risk was, claim or die.



TinCow 6(Seon, Thermal Mercury, Chaotix, Cultured Drizzt fan, pever, A1_Unit)
GH 5(ATPG, YLC, Diamondeye, Winston Hughes, Scienter)
Beskar 2(GH, Sasaki)
Seon 2(Captain C, Yaro)
...etc

TinCow
01-04-2010, 18:57
I would argue that the votes from the previous round "made you the highest priority target" for investigations. You claimed because you were going to die, so let's not pretend you took a big risk here. The risk was, claim or die.

You completely missed the point. Yes, that move was designed to save my butt, whey else would I have claimed pro-town on day 1? The point is that it's pretty obvious that the investigators are going to be looking at me soon enough, and probably already did last night. Why exactly are you and YLC so eager to lynch me, when those results are likely to come out soon enough and you risk killing a power town role if you're wrong? Seems to me like a mafioso attempt to off an opponent.

woad&fangs
01-04-2010, 18:59
I agree with YLC and the others on this. vote: Tincow

Askthepizzaguy
01-04-2010, 19:03
You completely missed the point. Yes, that move was designed to save my butt, whey else would I have claimed pro-town on day 1? The point is that it's pretty obvious that the investigators are going to be looking at me soon enough, and probably already did last night. Why exactly are you and YLC so eager to lynch me, when those results are likely to come out soon enough and you risk killing a power town role if you're wrong? Seems to me like a mafioso attempt to off an opponent.

I call huge amounts of bovine feces on this line.

If I were mafia, I could just kill you myself; No need to stick my neck out here and lynch you, because a guy who tries his best to get a supposed "pro-town role" lynched right off the bat will die shortly thereafter, if not before. I am not ensuring my survival as a scumbag in doing so, and it would be soooo much easier to just kill you. Especially given how many kills there are.

A mafioso attempt to off an opponent wouldn't involve a lynch at this stage. They would allow the town to lynch whoever, as long as it wasn't one of them. Again, you're a better player than that... and when I match that up with your bizarre defense of Sasaki in round one, I have to ask you, what the heck is going on? You're completely off your rocker.

TinCow
01-04-2010, 19:14
You're completely off your rocker.

I'd say the same thing about anyone trying to lynch someone who claimed pro-town on Day 1 without even waiting for an investigation result.

Askthepizzaguy
01-04-2010, 19:19
I also would like to point out that Yaseikhaan rarely includes detective roles in his games. There will probably never be an investigator. So we could be waiting for several rounds... "well, no one has come forward to accuse TinCow... he must be innocent" and forget all about you. No thanks; I am not letting you off that easy. I won't file you under "innocent" and forget about you.

You claimed to have a pro-town role under pressure, and that is worthy of scrutiny, especially since there are less obvious ways of getting votes off of yourself. I highly doubt that was your best option in that situation.

It is decision time. TinCow either lives or dies this round. I'll even offer myself up as a second option. Either TinCow is full of it, or I'll take the fall for him.

Thermal
01-04-2010, 19:43
Sticking to tradition vote:tincow

Andres
01-04-2010, 19:58
TinCow, since you already claimed to have a pro-town role and have thus exposed yourself, mind to share the specifics?

GeneralHankerchief
01-04-2010, 20:50
It is decision time. TinCow either lives or dies this round.

Oh I'm going to have fun with this one in the future.

As for me, my vote stays on AVSM until TinCow next responds.

Cultured Drizzt fan
01-04-2010, 21:03
Well.... Tincow may be telling the truth, so for now I am willing to leave him alone personally.

Vote: Yaropolk

Winston Hughes
01-04-2010, 21:06
vote: johnhughthom

For casting the first vote against me yesterday - without giving any reason - and then going totally quiet.

Thermal
01-04-2010, 21:21
vote: johnhughthom

For casting the first vote against me yesterday - without giving any reason - and then going totally quiet.

This is an odd request and you are welcome to ignore me but could you change your avatar? I get the vibe your a good player but I can never take anyone seriously with that Weird Default Barbarian at each post. :laugh4:

Winston Hughes
01-04-2010, 21:32
This is an odd request and you are welcome to ignore me but could you change your avatar? I get the vibe your a good player but I can never take anyone seriously with that Weird Default Barbarian at each post. :laugh4:

Believe it or not, I was actually the model for WDB. I like how they've rendered my hair.

Yaropolk
01-04-2010, 21:32
Nice Woad

Thermal
01-04-2010, 21:35
Believe it or not, I was actually the model for WDB. I like how they've rendered my hair.

WDB being? :grin:

Askthepizzaguy
01-04-2010, 21:36
WDB being? :grin:

Wierd default barbarian.

Thermal
01-04-2010, 21:37
Wierd default barbarian.

LMAO, my own words abbreviated against me...

Well keep your WDB then, see if I care. sulks*

Beskar
01-04-2010, 21:42
Double decker buses are not conventional in Arizona

Hence why there wouldn't be a top deck.

GeneralHankerchief
01-04-2010, 21:48
Hence why there wouldn't be a top deck.

Quoted to forever preserve Beskar's mistake of posting in the wrong thread. :tongue:

Diamondeye
01-04-2010, 22:10
Alright then. ATPG's case against vote:TinCow makes sense, and if I have to pick between him and a random lynch, it'll be him.

Askthepizzaguy
01-04-2010, 22:23
Why do I constantly put myself into situations where either the mafia are laughing really hard at me, or I'll be the one who gets the last laugh? I could just lurk and vote randomly, it would be a lot safer and I wouldn't look as stupid.

Psychologist, please. I need drugs of some kind.

Peasant Phill
01-04-2010, 22:39
Vote tinCow

Claiming to be pro-town pretty much sealed your death. Why would the mafia even risk letting a strong pro town force live.

This is a no brainer. (and if we're wrong than you have noone else to blame but your own tactics.)

Sasaki Kojiro
01-04-2010, 22:55
While TinCow's defense is faulty (a mafia role could easily be investigation immune) I don't see the need to lynch him.

Diamondeye
01-04-2010, 23:14
Why do I constantly put myself into situations where either the mafia are laughing really hard at me, or I'll be the one who gets the last laugh? I could just lurk and vote randomly, it would be a lot safer and I wouldn't look as stupid.

Psychologist, please. I need drugs of some kind.

How about some of these?
:daisy::daisy::daisy:

Seriously, though, I appreciate that kind of gamestyle (as you might see from the NOTW XXX on CFC), but I worry if it steals too much of your Darkness Falls-GM time :shame:

I need an update soon :whip: :sweatdrop:

TinCow
01-04-2010, 23:54
I also would like to point out that Yaseikhaan rarely includes detective roles in his games. There will probably never be an investigator.

Convenient of you to ignore the fact that in Netherworld I there were TWO investigators.


TinCow, since you already claimed to have a pro-town role and have thus exposed yourself, mind to share the specifics?

What role could I possibly claim that would be believed by you? Seriously. After this many games with me, you actually think me posting a role reveal will convince you one way or another?

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 00:59
Convenient of you to ignore the fact that in Netherworld I there were TWO investigators.

I wasn't in Netherworld I, and I've been in... almost all of his games since then?

Just mentioning, he's on a no-detective streak. And the last person to claim a role (detective) in one of his games (Beskar) was a guilty scum.

Kralizec
01-05-2010, 01:06
Vote: ATPG
To lazy/tired to read everything again right now- but you went from being rather defensive while defending TinCow to one of his greates accusers. What's that all about?

pevergreen
01-05-2010, 01:11
GH didn't put x role in his games until x game where it was a big change.

Don't expect the host to stay the same...

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 01:13
@ Kralizec:

It's all about the Benjamins.

I felt he deserved 1 round of the benefit of the doubt. But I think we should decide collectively if we are to wait several rounds for a detective result that may never come.

GeneralHankerchief
01-05-2010, 01:21
Unvote: AVSM
Vote: YLC

Because he's left me alone this round. I no longer feel loved. :bigcry:

Beskar
01-05-2010, 01:49
I am curious to see Tin Cow will actually survive this round or not. He gets a pat on the back from me if he does.

Chaotix
01-05-2010, 01:55
Vote: Abstain

Until I can get a better grasp of the situation.

Captain Blackadder
01-05-2010, 01:58
Vote abstain untill I read over what has happend

CCRunner
01-05-2010, 01:59
Following pizza as seems the norm. vote: TinCow

Beefy187
01-05-2010, 02:00
Same reason from last night

Vote: Winston Hughs

I see no other candidate who stands out. So I'll vote for you.

Centurion1
01-05-2010, 02:41
vote: diamondeye

far to happy to go along with atpg

TinCow
01-05-2010, 03:31
If I am going to be lynched, I will give what little info I have before I die.

I am Nyx, goddess of sleep and the night. I am your friendly neighborhood roleblocker. My night actions:

N1 - Block Psychonaut
N2 - Block ATPG

Vote: ATPG

I blocked him, the lance/shield killer disappeared, and he goes after me hard. That's not much, but it's the best a lowly roleblocker can come up with by D2.

ULC
01-05-2010, 03:44
If I am going to be lynched, I will give what little info I have before I die.

I am Nyx, goddess of sleep and the night. I am your friendly neighborhood roleblocker. My night actions:

N1 - Block Psychonaut
N2 - Block ATPG

Vote: ATPG

I blocked him, the lance/shield killer disappeared, and he goes after me hard. That's not much, but it's the best a lowly roleblocker can come up with by D2.

Really? Did you geta results PM back, stating ATPG had been blocked?

TinCow
01-05-2010, 03:48
Really? Did you geta results PM back, stating ATPG had been blocked?

No, 'khaan has not sent me any PMs in response to my night actions. I assume I will never know whether my blocks were successful or not.

Yaropolk
01-05-2010, 03:55
I dont think we should lynch a RB. I find it difficult to belive 0 investigators in a game this big. Please re-evaluate my case on Csargo - 2 days, 1 post only to vote without a reason.

seireikhaan
01-05-2010, 03:56
Right, I see the where this is headed.

My policy is that I do not respond to players in regard to their night actions as to whether they were specifically successful or not, excluding any potential investigators(who would rather need such a response by definition of the role). This goes for all non-investigator roles, including doctors, killers, etc...

ULC
01-05-2010, 03:56
No, 'khaan has not sent me any PMs in response to my night actions. I assume I will never know whether my blocks were successful or not.

EDIT - seen khans response..hmmm...

Chaotix
01-05-2010, 04:11
Well, that sounds more like a confirmation if you read between the lines.

Although a dead roleblocker would not necessarily be the end of the world, we should still endeavor to keep him alive. In order to do that, we'll need a consolidated counter-vote. Yaropolk has provided a decent enough option for this purpose.

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Csargo

Beefy187
01-05-2010, 04:23
Vote: ATPG

We can lynch him and find out if TinCow is right or not.

Double A
01-05-2010, 04:24
I actually read (and not skimmed over) the stuff between now and the night... and after closely looking at both arguments, I vote: TC.

Also, the River Styx is on fire. Or made of fire.

Either way, I doubt you could float in it without getting cooked to well-done.

Chaotix
01-05-2010, 04:40
Actually, you know what...

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

It's the only bandwagon that has a chance of matching the one on TC.

Yaropolk
01-05-2010, 04:59
Anyone want to do a tally?

Unvote: Csargo; Vote: ATPG

Double A
01-05-2010, 05:20
... except this one


If I am going to be lynched, I will give what little info I have before I die.

I am Nyx, goddess of sleep and the night. I am your friendly neighborhood roleblocker. My night actions:

N1 - Block Psychonaut
N2 - Block ATPG

Vote: ATPG

I blocked him, the lance/shield killer disappeared, and he goes after me hard. That's not much, but it's the best a lowly roleblocker can come up with by D2.

unvote, vote: Pizza

GeneralHankerchief
01-05-2010, 05:26
Right then, all aboard the bandwagon!

https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5050/emotbandwagonqr2.gif

Unvote: YLC
Vote: ATPG

CCRunner
01-05-2010, 05:41
I'm not convinced of pizza's guilt, but am convinced of TinCow's innocence enough to unvote, vote: abstain

pevergreen
01-05-2010, 05:54
Vote: ATPG

TC can go next round.

Yes, I do think he'll get his own 'sleep' mafia if he lives long enough.

:beam:

johnhughthom
01-05-2010, 06:14
Vote: Atpg

Csargo
01-05-2010, 06:50
I dont think we should lynch a RB. I find it difficult to belive 0 investigators in a game this big. Please re-evaluate my case on Csargo - 2 days, 1 post only to vote without a reason.

*insert lame excuse here*

Sasaki Kojiro
01-05-2010, 07:26
Unvote:yarapolk, vote:CCRunner

CCRunner
01-05-2010, 07:36
Jumping the gun a bit aren't we? Fine, since you all seem to have decided, unvote, Vote: ATPG if that's what you want. All I was thinking is that roleblocking pizza didn't actually stop one of the deaths so I don't see how he's automatically guilty. Not innocent by any means, just not automatically guilty.

seireikhaan
01-05-2010, 07:57
The round will end in ten hours from now.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 08:33
Hello!

I see you guys are voting me. :laugh4:

Guess again. What's even funnier is that I will not die when you lynch me. So, this is effectively a wasted round, but please, continue voting for me so I can prove it.

Yes, I am a townie.

Wonder why I made that statement earlier, decide on Tincow, and if not Tincow, vote for me? This is why. You decided not to vote for Tincow, so therefore, go ahead and vote for me.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 08:37
Jumping the gun a bit aren't we? Fine, since you all seem to have decided, unvote, Vote: ATPG if that's what you want. All I was thinking is that roleblocking pizza didn't actually stop one of the deaths so I don't see how he's automatically guilty. Not innocent by any means, just not automatically guilty.

Not even remotely guilty, but yeah. :bounce:

If TinCow is a roleblocker, he should be able to be covered tonight by one of the doctors in the game. Don't know why he was so timid to reveal after he already revealed.

Diamondeye
01-05-2010, 08:40
Seeing as TinCow seems to be a RB now and ATPG is a wasted lynch if we are to believe him (and I kind of am), I think unvote; vote:Csargo is the best move. With three kills a night, wasting a lynch is kind of stupid.

ULC
01-05-2010, 08:41
Agreed^

Unvote:TC, Vote:Csargo

Csargo
01-05-2010, 08:46
I concur.

Unvote: GH, Vote: Csargo

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 08:48
unvote, vote: Johnhughthom

I'm not a fan of the Csargo lynch, actually. (He's my mafia partner) How about someone else? I feel JHT deserves some scrutiny.

johnhughthom
01-05-2010, 08:51
Scrutinise away, my lack of imagination makes it difficult for me to get involved fully in a game where I don't receive a role pm, hence my level of input.

Csargo
01-05-2010, 08:56
unvote, vote: Johnhughthom

I'm not a fan of the Csargo lynch, actually. (He's my mafia partner) How about someone else? I feel JHT deserves some scrutiny.

Way to spill the beans.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 09:23
Scrutinise away, my lack of imagination makes it difficult for me to get involved fully in a game where I don't receive a role pm, hence my level of input.

:no:

If the only people who are active and engaged in the thread are people with pro-town roles, then there is no cover for them to hide in, and they have to lead the effort themselves. Basic townies are the backbone of the entire town effort. They are often the most important role. Think of them as the bodyguards of the President, they take a bullet for the important people. But if they don't take on some kind of leadership role (even if it is just the blind leading the blind) then the only people leading will be the people we don't want killed off at night. And, the mafia will be able to easily blend in, and only show up when they need to nudge us in the wrong direction. Some of my better picks and better tactics have been executed when I was a basic townie. It gives me the freedom to be extra accusatory, even when it will result in my death when I am wrong.

One tactic the townsfolk might use is to lynch the person who first accused the person who gets lynched, thus the only lynches will be done by actual townsfolk, and the mafia might be too timid to accuse someone. That should shut them up or at least put them in danger when they make their scummy accusations.

I would offer more, but I don't want to come off sounding like I think I know it all; I just mean to say, we HAVE to be creative as basic townies, and we have to get engaged and we absolutely MUST pay attention and be involved, or else what happens is... we are easily manipulated, our lynches are much worse, and we eventually lose the game.

These first few round lynches aren't throwaway lynches, these are our safest lynches. There's enough people where we can easily bandwagon and smash a mafia to death, and also easily change our mind when we are wrong, and if we are wrong, it isn't the end of the game. This is where we have to be both creative and aggressive, in my opinion.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 09:36
I agree with YLC and the others on this. vote: Tincow

unvote, vote: woad&fangs

Fine, how about this one?



Vote tinCow

Claiming to be pro-town pretty much sealed your death. Why would the mafia even risk letting a strong pro town force live.

This is a no brainer. (and if we're wrong than you have noone else to blame but your own tactics.)


I also like this one.






Here's a tally, since no one else wants to do one.

ATPG: 8/9 (Kralizec, TinCow, (Beefy187 did not unvote WH), Chaotix, Yaropolk, Double A, GH, pevergreen, johnhughthom, CCRunner)
TinCow: 3 (woad&fangs, Thermal Mercury, Peasant Phill)
Csargo: 3 (Diamondeye, YLC, Csargo)
woad&fangs: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
Yaropolk: 1 (CDF)
Johnhughthom: 1 (Winston Hughes)
Winston Hughes: 1/0 (Beefy187 did not unvote WH)

Diamondeye: 1 (Centurion1)

CCRunner: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)




Abstain: 1 (Captain Blackadder)

Csargo
01-05-2010, 10:54
Unvote:Csargo, Vote:TinCow

I don't believe it.

Andres
01-05-2010, 11:42
Convenient of you to ignore the fact that in Netherworld I there were TWO investigators.

There have been more than 2 kills, investigators could be dead already. Not very likely, but it's possible.

A detective for a mafia is usually seen as a good trade, so if TC doesn't get lynched, the investigator will come forward next round to make us lynch TC.

Since it's unlikely that the investigators are dead, I'm inclined to let TC off the hook.



What role could I possibly claim that would be believed by you? Seriously. After this many games with me, you actually think me posting a role reveal will convince you one way or another?

Fair enough.

Vote : CCrunner

TinCow
01-05-2010, 13:08
Guess again. What's even funnier is that I will not die when you lynch me. So, this is effectively a wasted round, but please, continue voting for me so I can prove it.

Yes, I am a townie.

You're a townie but immune to lynching? Seems like a contradiction to me, since townies don't get role PMs.

Scienter
01-05-2010, 13:13
Guess again. What's even funnier is that I will not die when you lynch me. So, this is effectively a wasted round, but please, continue voting for me so I can prove it.

Yes, I am a townie.


This oughta be interesting. Vote:APTG

Andres
01-05-2010, 13:36
This oughta be interesting. Vote:APTG

Apart from the interesting ATPG experiment which didn't really need an additional vote, what is your take on the game so far?

Sigurd
01-05-2010, 13:42
I am curious about this experiment... or the "Save TinCow" movement.

vote: ATPG

ULC
01-05-2010, 13:51
Oi vey, what a mess this place has become in just such small time.

Beskar
01-05-2010, 14:10
unvote; vote: Csargo

For acting weird, voting and unvoting himself, amongst other things.

Andres
01-05-2010, 14:26
unvote; vote: Csargo

For acting weird, voting and unvoting himself, amongst other things.

That's not unusual for Csar :shrug:

Beskar
01-05-2010, 14:32
True, but I already commented earlier, I would laugh if TinCow surrived this round. So I can't really vote for him as I was curious to see how far he would have gone. I also tend not to vote ATPG in any games unless I am confirmed of his guilt, especially in the first couple of rounds, because everynow and then, everyone makes him the first lynch target in numerous games and it really hurts his feelings.

It just simply left Csargo as the choice.

johnhughthom
01-05-2010, 14:36
and it really hurts his feelings.

Somehow I think the pizzaman is made of sterner stuff than that.

Andres
01-05-2010, 14:38
True, but I already commented earlier, I would laugh if TinCow surrived this round. So I can't really vote for him as I was curious to see how far he would have gone. I also tend not to vote ATPG in any games unless I am confirmed of his guilt, especially in the first couple of rounds, because everynow and then, everyone makes him the first lynch target in numerous games and it really hurts his feelings.

It just simply left Csargo as the choice.

So, you basically vote Csargo because you don't want to vote TinCow or ATPG?

That's strange. I was under the impression there were still about more than 30 or so players alive.

So, why would Csargo, ATPG or TinCow be the only ones you can vote for?

Scienter
01-05-2010, 14:41
Apart from the interesting ATPG experiment which didn't really need an additional vote, what is your take on the game so far?

I'm still trying to figure out what the :daisy: is going on. :dizzy2: It seems like if a person is a townie w/ no additional role, then there isn't really much for them to talk about. Assuming that only a handful of people have additional roles (mafia, etc)., then the majority of people talking are bs-ing. So, I think that when people post PMs, they could just be making it all up and no one is really trustworthy. I think it's partially because I don't 'know' anyone on here except for TinCow, so I don't know peoples' history playing mafia games.

Beskar
01-05-2010, 14:44
I can, but Csargo seemed scummiest and better than Abstaining.

Andres
01-05-2010, 15:08
I'm still trying to figure out what the :daisy: is going on. :dizzy2: It seems like if a person is a townie w/ no additional role, then there isn't really much for them to talk about. Assuming that only a handful of people have additional roles (mafia, etc)., then the majority of people talking are *abbreviation for naughty word for bovine excrements*ing. So, I think that when people post PMs, they could just be making it all up and no one is really trustworthy. I think it's partially because I don't 'know' anyone on here except for TinCow, so I don't know peoples' history playing mafia games.

Fair enough.

The first few rounds are usually voting ad random and trying to find a decent reason to vote someone, so usually you end up lynching townies.

However, there are some "signs" to spot mafia.

Posts who are sounding neutral or seem to be very careful (or not willing) to take a clear position, are usually seen as "scummy" and could be a sign of being mafia.

Sometimes the reasons for voting someone seem "serious" but when taking a close look, too fabricated or inconsistent or contain logical fallacies. Such posts could also be a sign of being mafia.

And then you have "gut feelings" or voting on "a hunch". Usually, those feelings are wrong, but some people have been pretty succesful in finding mafia voting on nothing more than "a hunch" or "a gut feeling". Sometimes a post seems off, but you can't really seem to define it.

In the end, it's much guessing and there is a serious luck factor involved, but it's not all randomness and being lucky.

Just participate and voice your opinion on things to get the hang of it.

Posting generates discussion which can be analysed later in the game. Anaylising first round discussions later in the game can be useful, as sometimes mafia members are a bit careless in the first rounds. Try to get everybody to talk; it is material that could be used in a later stage of the game.

Don't hesitate to be aggressive or to accuse/be aggressive against some random player to make him talk. His/her reaction can be analysed later.

:bow:

Thermal
01-05-2010, 17:09
unvote, vote: ccrunner

Winston Hughes
01-05-2010, 17:54
It seems like if a person is a townie w/ no additional role, then there isn't really much for them to talk about.

In which case they should go about making wild, unsubstantiated accusations. Or defending themselves against other people's wild, unsubstatiated accusations. Then, if no-one who's talking sounds especially guilty, you lynch someone who's being quiet.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 18:14
You're a townie but immune to lynching? Seems like a contradiction to me, since townies don't get role PMs.

Then, like David Blaine before me, I must use my powers of endurance to convince you.


----


Last chance to not waste this round, fellows. I suppose the policy is, whenever Pizzaguy claims something, you must call him on it? That explains a lot. I am so tempted to mess with you, but I'd prefer to just try one last time to nudge you in the direction of lynching someone.

And Scienter: If it were anyone but me and a handful of others, my aggressive attempts to destroy TinCow could be seen as an indication that we are not on the same mafia team, if either of us were mafia. It's not much data, and it isn't 100% reliable, but this early in the game, most people would be really pissed off if their mafia partner ACTUALLY tried to destroy them. If we're on the same townie team, it could be an indication that Askthepizzaguy's scumdar isn't working properly, and he accused TinCow and will regret it later, but in his defense, TinCow was doing an excellent job attracting attention to himself...

:creep:


and it really hurts his feelings.

Not unless it becomes a habit, and at that point, people would be admitting I am the most dangerous man alive, so I guess it would be a bizarre compliment.

TinCow
01-05-2010, 19:18
Then, like David Blaine before me, I must use my powers of endurance to convince you.

My point is that if a player is a townie, that person doesn't receive a role PM. If a person doesn't have a role PM, they cannot know that they have a specific power. Therefore, since you claim to have a power, you must have gotten a role PM. Thus, since you claim to have a role PM you cannot be a townie. Yet you specifically said you were a townie; if you survive this lynching, it will be conclusive proof that you lied.


TinCow was doing an excellent job attracting attention to himself...

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 19:23
My point is that if a player is a townie, that person doesn't receive a role PM. If a person doesn't have a role PM, they cannot know that they have a specific power. Therefore, since you claim to have a power, you must have gotten a role PM. Thus, since you claim to have a role PM you cannot be a townie. Yet you specifically said you were a townie; if you survive this lynching, it will be conclusive proof that you lied.

It is a very well-built argument, situated on top of quicksand.

seireikhaan
01-05-2010, 19:31
Apologies, got tied up a bit unexpectedly. The round, as promised, ended two and one half hours ago. Thermal Mercury's vote change did not count. Time to tally, and I'll announce the lynch.

edit: Night's begun, please send in orders. I'll allot 24 hours from the lynch-mark(aka two and one half hours ago).

seireikhaan
01-05-2010, 20:03
Governor-General Yasei brought a second scribe with him when he heard there were more brutaliities. Indeed, upon his entrance to the main hall, he needn't even request for the presence of the encampment. They were clearly all the eager to continue their attempted extermination. The time quickly wheeled by, as the accusations rotated from player to player. Eventually, one by the name of ser Askthepizzaguy had achieved what was clearly the largest base of hostility. A couple guards kicked him to his knees, then dragging him before Yasei.

"Is this the one you wish to lynch?!" Yasei asked of the crowd.

"Yes, lynch him, lynch him! We do not want him!"

"Very well..." His grabbed the sword presented to him by one of the guards. "Well, do you have anything you wish to say?" he requested of the one thrown before him. "I do not wish to kill you."

"One such as you cannot kill me," Askthepizzaguy stated to his executioner. Raising an eyebrow at the impertinence of such a proclamation, Yasei gripped the hilt of his sword with his second hand, and brought it down upon exposed neck. Askthepizzaguy's head was sliced cleanly off, and the body collapsed in a heap upon the floor.

"Right, clean the mess up," Yasei told the guards. Turning to the crowd once more, Yasei exclaimed "We have not won yet! Be wary, be vigilant! Now back to your posts!"




ATPG: 10 (Scienter, Sigurd, Kralizec, TinCow, Chaotix, Yaropolk, Double A, GH, pevergreen, johnhughthom, CCRunner)
TinCow: 4 (woad&fangs, Thermal Mercury, Peasant Phill)
Csargo: 2 (Diamondeye, YLC, Beskar)
CCRunner: 2 (Andres, Sasaki Kojiro)
woad&fangs: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
Yaropolk: 1(CDF)
Johnhughthom: 1 (Winston Hughes)
Winston Hughes: 1 (Beefy187)
Diamondeye: 1 (Centurion1)
CCRunner: 2 (Andres, Sasaki Kojiro)

Abstain: 1 (Captain Blackadder)
Not Voting: A1_Unit, Acin, Atheotes, Joooray, Psychonaut, scottishranger, Sprig, Yaropolk


Alive: 32

A1_Unit
A completely inoffensive name
Andres
Atheotes
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
CCRunner
Centurion1
Chaotix
Csargo
Cultured Drizzt fan
Diamondeye
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhugthom
Jooray
Kralizec
Peasant Phill
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Scienter
Sigurd
Sprig
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Winston Hughes
woad&fangs
Yaropolk
YLC


Slain: 6

A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)
Captain C (N2)
splitpersonality (N2)
slashandburn (N2)



Lynched: 2

Seon (D1)
Askthepizzaguy (D2)



PLEASE SEND IN NIGHT ORDERS. YOU HAVE 21 HOURS TO DO SO!

TinCow
01-05-2010, 20:11
Then, like David Blaine before me, I must use my powers of endurance to convince you.

For David Blaine's sake, I hope he's more successful than you during his next spectacle.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 20:11
It seems my powers have mysteriously vanished. I wonder why that is. :laugh4:

GeneralHankerchief
01-05-2010, 20:16
I guess Drago was right after all.

https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/DSCF7334.jpg

Beskar
01-05-2010, 20:27
That was a mighty bluff called by ATPG, shame it wasn't real and he wasn't that Spartan person who I hope is some kind of pro-town role.

Also, congrats TinCow, you actually survived the clutches of certain doom. :laugh4: Though I am not sure why ATPG who was wanting you lynched offered himself as a sacrifical pawn.

Diamondeye
01-05-2010, 20:28
Lynched: 2

Seon (D1)
Askthepizzaguy (D32)

PLEASE SEND IN NIGHT ORDERS. YOU HAVE 21 HOURS TO DO SO!

Day 32! Lo and behold, we might just outlast these villains :laugh4:

Apologies. I have to point out everyone's mistakes, it's a new year's resolution :yes:

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 20:48
Me? Bluff? Why, I'd never...

Diamondeye
01-05-2010, 20:54
Me? Bluff? Why, I'd never...

ô_O

You lied to me! :bigcry:

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 21:19
Though I am not sure why ATPG who was wanting you lynched offered himself as a sacrifical pawn.

Response to your edit:

Either I am the dumbest mafia ever (You know better than that) or:

1. I truly believed I would survive this lynch for some reason... :inquisitive:

and/or

2. I believe TinCow's claim. And, better me than him.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-05-2010, 21:45
Yes, it seems like it was a calculated move to save TinCow. Pizza knows town psychology well enough to realize that claiming to be lynch immune would get him lynched. It seem that the voting bloc from day one does have a vested interest in looking out for each other, with TinCow as the leader perhaps :inquisitive: :inquisitive:

ULC
01-05-2010, 21:50
Yes, it seems like it was a calculated move to save TinCow. Pizza knows town psychology well enough to realize that claiming to be lynch immune would get him lynched. It seem that the voting bloc from day one does have a vested interest in looking out for each other, with TinCow as the leader perhaps :inquisitive: :inquisitive:

Then you'd be accusing TC's detractors of lynching themselves to get TC lynched - I'm sure you realize the difficulty in that.

TinCow
01-05-2010, 21:51
Yes, it seems like it was a calculated move to save TinCow. Pizza knows town psychology well enough to realize that claiming to be lynch immune would get him lynched. It seem that the voting bloc from day one does have a vested interest in looking out for each other, with TinCow as the leader perhaps :inquisitive: :inquisitive:

If that was his intent, it was unnecessary. The bandwagon on ATPG was pretty much complete by the time he claimed that he was lynch-immune. Apparently people still think role reveals by me are credible, which is pleasing if unexpected.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-05-2010, 21:54
Then you'd be accusing TC's detractors of lynching themselves to get TC lynched - I'm sure you realize the difficulty in that.

Well, if I already did it then it wasn't that difficult.

ULC
01-05-2010, 21:54
Well, if I already did it then it wasn't that difficult.

You lynched TC? News to me.

Askthepizzaguy
01-05-2010, 21:55
Well I was actually hoping people would be wise enough to remove their votes from me, so we could skip the lynching of me process and go directly to the next round's suspect.

That didn't happen, Pizza miscalculated, adds 1 point to getting himself killed on the big scoreboard.

GeneralHankerchief
01-05-2010, 21:55
Apparently people still think role reveals by me are credible, which is pleasing if unexpected.

Nah, I'll probably turn on you in the mid-to-endgame, just for kicks.

pevergreen
01-05-2010, 23:40
Nah, I'll probably turn on you in the mid-to-endgame, just for kicks.

Americans. :rolleyes:

a completely inoffensive name
01-06-2010, 06:11
Forgot that yesterday I should have voted, thought it was today.

seireikhaan
01-06-2010, 07:49
Just a reminder, 9 hours left to get ordrers in.

seireikhaan
01-06-2010, 19:49
Right, sorry folks, I kinda just crashed this morn'. Have things up asap.

seireikhaan
01-06-2010, 21:31
Chaos... fear... rage... ah.... It was all so? Quaint? Yes, that was the word Yaropolk was looking for. All the small, weak, pathetic ones who could not handle it should never have come. What had they expected down in a place that was ruled by Hades? A meadow of flowers? Well, there was a meadow of flowers, but the plants were carnivorous, so that didn't quite count towards the idea he was going for. Either way, what mattered was that he was ready, and that far too many weren't. He kept his gaze alert as he kept his guard up at the entrance to the encampment. None would pass...

In the distance, far to his left, he could see a cloud of dust being kicked up from the dirt. Something was obviously moving at quite a speed. Yaropolk grabbed his trusty spear, turned to his left, and leveraged his stance. Within twenty seconds, he could see that which was running towards him. Within thirty seconds, the source of the commotion had halted before him. Easily the being's most defining feature was it's elongated face, bent in cruel anger. In its right hand, it held a curved dagger. Yaropolk waited for it to make the first movie. With a snarl, it obliged, taking a two-step towards Yaropolk and taking a swipe with the knife. Yaropolk ducked to his left, and thrust his spear at the attacker. The attacker twirled on the spot, seizing the with one hand the spear. Yaropolk attempted to pull it back, but the intruder was strong enough to hold on. With a quick strike, it sliced the spear in half with the dagger in its other hand, causing Yaropolk to tumble backwards. The intruder seized the advantage, leaping wildly at him, swinging the dagger with a large arc. Yaropolk managed to roll to his right to avoid the blow, but the intruder was relentless. Immediately it began its course again, forcing Yaropolk to roll to his left again. However, he was just too late this time. The intruder managed to slash his ankle during mid roll. Yaropolk tumbled to the ground when he attempted to get up, failed by his wounded ankle. The intruder immediately leaped onto its immobilized target, landing on Yaropolk's chest. Continued dagger blades struck at every vulnerable place, too fast and frenetic to be held back. The intruder carved its victim, slicing the head off, slicing the arms off, slicing the arms at the elbow, slicing the knees apart, slicing the legs off, slicing the ankles apart. Whatever was left of Yaropolk by the time all was finished was was hardly recognizable....






Csargo sat at the northeastern edge of the compound. This whole thing was really quite dull. Ok, a few vanished, a few were mauled, but whatever... this sort of thing happens all the time, right? Ah, well... he started to doze off, resting his back next to the fence. He was near blissful sleep when a noise akin to running awoke him. He snapped awake, just in time to see ATPG before he was picked up at the neck. "I LIIIIIIVE" ATPG whispered angrily. "I TOLD YOU, NONE SUCH AS THAT FOOL COULD KILL ME!" Csargo's eyes opened wide. Now, this was quite interesting. ATPG had a short sword in his left hand. "SEE THIS?" He asked Csargo. "SEE THIS? I WILL SLAY YOU, AND YOU WILL JOIN ME!" However, as he finished his proclamation, the arm holding Csargo pinned to the wall snapped at the shoulder joint and fell to the ground. Yet, a mixture of fear and wonderment rooted Csargo to the spot. "NOOOO!" ATPG roared. "THERE IS NO TIME!" With that as his warning, his left hand rotated awkwardly, bring the sword to bear on Csargo's skull. The sword was apparently of substandard make, for though it did indeed slice, it got caught a third of the way through Csargo's skull, preventing a clean slice. Nonetheless, ATPG's victim collapsed to the ground, quite slain. ATPG began shambling off, only to have his legs fail him. They tore apart at the knees, and ATPG finally lay unmoving after collapsing near his victim.





Captain Blackadder sighed. He was sitting far up the mountain, watching ATPG and Csargo struggle. The two seemed like they were both fairly well done for. He heard rocks crumbling behind him down the mountainside. He swiveled his head to see behind him. An impressive sight for a rugged mountainside. A rider had somehow managed to make it up the mountain while atop a water bison. "I must congratulate you, that must have been quite difficult getting your ride all the way up here!" The rider nodded solemnly. It reached down to the steed's right side, and grabbed a length of rope. "Setting up camp here?" Captain Blackddder asked. It merely shook its head. It began fiddling with the rope, and after a few seconds of well-practiced craft, a loop had been made. Captain Blackadder was feeling a bit more cautious. "Well, if you must excuse me, I really must be going," he told the rider. It shook its head once more. This was problematic. The only path down was occupied.... With little in the way of warning, the rider flung the lasso at Captain Blackadder. He decided at that second there was only one way of survival. He rolled out of the way of the lasso, attempting to cling to the rock face. However, it failed to support, and crumbled beneath his feet. His footing collapsed beneath him, and Captain Blackadder fell crashing down the mountain...






Down at the swamp's edge, a flying creature descended to the ground. Someone got off the creature, petting its nose a couple times and offering it a small bit of food. It then hushed the beast, and told it he would return soon. The rider then turned to the business at hand. He pulled a longsword from its sheath, and grabbed the shield which had hung from his back. The entrance to a dank cave at the meeting of the mountain's edge and the marsh stood before him. He took a deep breath, and took the plunge, so to speak. He expected such a cave to be eternally dark, yet the further he went, the more a gentle shimmer seemed to come from the walls themselves. After roughly five minutes of venturing, a voice called out to the the spelunker. "Welcome, welcome! I do so enjoy visitors! Please, please, come in, come in!" The voice seemed to come from deeper in the cave, so he continued his trek. However, after another ten minutes, he seemed to have made no progress. The cave path never deviated, never changed. "I told you, please come in!" The voice called to him.

"Where?!" He responded in exasperation. Where do I go? I have been trying to come, and yet I go nowhere!"

"Right here, dumb dumb!" The screechy voice came from behind him. He twirled on the spot, and found a strange little creature before him. A small antelope stood before him, with the wings of a dragon and the head of a man. "Now, come in!" it screeched. "Master wishes to see you!" It walked up to the cave wall, and licked it. A door appeared on the spot. "Well?" it asked. "Are you coming in?"

"Er, yes." he answered. The beast pushed the door and it swung open. When he followed it in, a flash of light blinded him, and when he could see, he was out upon the glacier that was in the distance. A man was sitting cross-legged before him on the ice, seeming quite content with the howling, bitter winds. He staggered for a second, far too many questions on his mind. He approached the man, staggering in the uncomfortable conditions. "Are you the master?" He asked him.

"The master? Why, who would that be?" That voice...

"Where is the beast?!" He asked the man. "How did I get here? How can you simply sit here and meditate?"

"Oh dear, too many questions," the man responded. Yes, that was the voice!

"YOU'RE THE BEAST!" he accused. The man smiled. "Now, one last time, where is your master?!" The man just continued smiling, then closed his eyes once more and continued meditating. "That's it, I've had enough of this!" he raged. He swung his blade down upon the man's skull. It cleaved open in two, but the man still smiled, still sat in his meditative pose.

"Oh no, now you've done it!" A different voice shrieked from nowhere. "That was terribly rude of you!" I'm afraid you'll need to be punished for that!" Without warning, the glacier under him and the man collapsed, and the two fell into darkness.....

Upon waking, he found himself back in the eerie, glowing cave. He still had his sword, his shield. The man from before was up against the wall, still sitting serenely while his head was carved in two from top to nose. He stood up, looked around. In the distance, there was something, someone. He ran towards it. After a minute or so, he could see it. Another man. Suddenly, another bright light flashed in his eyes, and he stumbled. When he got up, the new man was before him. Garish makeup adorned his face, making him pale as snow. Sharp teeth gave the man a rather terrifying smile. "Now, about your punishment..." it spoke.

"So, you are the master," he asked it.

"Why, I suppose I would be," it answered him, tilting its head for little apparent reason. "I don't see why you're so intent on barging into my home though. And as I said, you were quite rude to Willy!"

"I haven't time for any more of this!" he yelled. He thrust the blade into the gut of the strange little man.

"AAAAAAHH!" the man screamed. "The pain, the pain, oh, the pa- oh whatever, you're no fun!" There was a faint pop. And in an instant, the cave disappeared. He was in the encampment... He looked back to his sword. There was no longer the man impaled on it. Instead, Peasant Phill held a shocked look as he struggled in his final moments, having taken the the mad creature's place on the weapon.


"AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!" he bellowed in frustration before storming out of the place, leaving the corpse behind.




Alive: 28

A1_Unit
A completely inoffensive name
Andres
Atheotes
Beefy187
Beskar
CCRunner
Centurion1
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Diamondeye
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhugthom
Jooray
Kralizec
pevergreen
Psychonaut
Sasaki Kojiro
scottishranger
Scienter
Sigurd
Sprig
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Winston Hughes
woad&fangs
YLC


Slain: 10

A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)
Captain C (N2)
splitpersonality (N2)
slashandburn (N2)
Captain Blackadder (N3)
Peasant Phill (N3)
Yaropolk (N3)
Csargo (N3)



Lynched: 2

Seon (D1)
Askthepizzaguy (D2)




DAY 3 BEGINS NOW! YOU HAVE 36 HOURS.

Thermal
01-06-2010, 21:46
Ouch.....


vote ACIN

TinCow
01-06-2010, 21:49
Interesting. Yaropolk contacted me after the day phase with concerns about Csargo. On that basis, I blocked Csargo last night, which is think is visible in the form of him falling asleep. I find it very odd, however, that both Yaropolk and Csargo were killed on the very night Yaropolk contacted me with suspicions of Csargo. Here is the full conversation:


No. I'll see what I can do.


I was investigated and contacted by investigator. He didn't share info with me but said he had info about csargo from a third party, but wont be able to investigate tonight. Do you have a better suspect?










TC, you're driving me nuts man. I am 99% certain that by now you've been investigated, but there is always that 1% chance. Have any investigators contacted you yet? If not I suggest you make a post "hey investigators contact me ok pls thx bye!"

If they have, I have a message to pass along to them. Let me know.

Unfortunately, I have not been contacted by an investigators. If they're out there, they're keeping their mouths shut. I don't see much point in asking to be investigated. Any investigator paying attention would already know to look at me eventually, and any investigator not paying attention would never notice such a request.

Like I said, I have a tip for the investigators, and right now you're the closest thing to a CI that we have. I think we could form a townie network around you if you put feelers out in the thread.

Well, I am in touch with two people who each claim a somewhat unusual role. Neither is an investigator, but one claims to have an ability which would be able to detect a killer in a slightly different way. If your information deals with a specific person that you think is a killer, I might be able to put it to use.


Do me a favor, roleblock Csargo tonight, or ask your investigator friend to get him.

Is this based on anything more than what you've said in the thread?

My main concern from this is the person who contacted Yaropolk. That person claimed to be an investigator, but didn't get their info on Csargo from their own results, AND they couldn't investigate last night for some odd reason. That sounds wrong to me.

[edit]Also, I believe this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetala) may be the role of the person who killed slashandburn and Csargo.

ULC
01-06-2010, 22:10
Vote: Atheotes

Beskar
01-06-2010, 22:12
Interesting. Yaropolk contacted me after the day phase with concerns about Csargo. On that basis, I blocked Csargo last night, which is think is visible in the form of him falling asleep. I find it very odd, however, that both Yaropolk and Csargo were killed on the very night Yaropolk contacted me with suspicions of Csargo. Here is the full conversation:

My main concern from this is the person who contacted Yaropolk. That person claimed to be an investigator, but didn't get their info on Csargo from their own results, AND they couldn't investigate last night for some odd reason. That sounds wrong to me.

[edit]Also, I believe this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetala) may be the role of the person who killed slashandburn and Csargo.

There is also the other option that you are this Vetala person, as it doesn't seem that he was roleblocked at all. However, Captain Blackadder seemed to be watching, was he an investigator seeing what would happen? Could you tell us more Cpt. BA?

Also, there is the argument that confessed as a pro-town role, but no one has attempted to kill you. Any explanations to that?

Double A
01-06-2010, 22:13
That's strange... either an inventor, jack-of-all-trades, or that guy was lying.


Well I was actually hoping people would be wise enough to remove their votes from me, so we could skip the lynching of me process and go directly to the next round's suspect.

That didn't happen, Pizza miscalculated, adds 1 point to getting himself killed on the big scoreboard.

How many points do you have?

seireikhaan
01-06-2010, 22:14
There is also the other option that you are this Vetala person, as it doesn't seem that he was roleblocked at all. However, Captain Blackadder seemed to be watching, was he an investigator seeing what would happen? Could you tell us more Cpt. BA?
The dead may not reveal.

Beskar
01-06-2010, 22:17
The dead may not reveal.

Sorry Khaan. :bow:

But I would assume that Captain Blackadder was a detective of some kind, it looked like he was.

TinCow
01-06-2010, 22:17
There is also the other option that you are this Vetala person, as it doesn't seem that he was roleblocked at all.

My role is Nyx, goddess of sleep and the night. I said that a while ago. You'll notice that Csargo started falling asleep before he was killed. Unless 'khaan is allowing killers to write their own kills (which he did not do in Netherworld I), that should prove that I am who I say I am.


Also, there is the argument that confessed as a pro-town role, but no one has attempted to kill you. Any explanations to that?

My only explanation is that they assume I will be protected and/or hope to discredit me by letting me live. This isn't the first time someone has revealed as pro-town and gone unattacked for a few nights.

Beskar
01-06-2010, 22:21
My role is Nyx, goddess of sleep and the night. I said that a while ago. You'll notice that Csargo started falling asleep before he was killed. Unless 'khaan is allowing killers to write their own kills (which he did not do in Netherworld I), that should prove that I am who I say I am.

Ok, that makes more sense then. My apologises.

Yaropolk
01-06-2010, 22:21
Blimey....I'll do my best not to come back from the dead and kill one of you tonight!

TinCow
01-06-2010, 22:23
Blimey....I'll do my best not to come back from the dead and kill one of you tonight!

Do you still believe the 'investigator' you referred to in your PMs to me is to be trusted?

Yaropolk
01-06-2010, 22:26
I wouldn't focus on him.

ULC
01-06-2010, 22:29
My role is Nyx, goddess of sleep and the night. I said that a while ago. You'll notice that Csargo started falling asleep before he was killed. Unless 'khaan is allowing killers to write their own kills (which he did not do in Netherworld I), that should prove that I am who I say I am.


Khaan is not letting anyone, at all, influence how they appear in the write ups - I already inquired because I wanted an awesome death scene :laugh4:

GeneralHankerchief
01-06-2010, 22:49
Khaan is not letting anyone, at all, influence how they appear in the write ups - I already inquired because I wanted an awesome death scene :laugh4:

Suspicious.

Csargo
01-06-2010, 23:14
Blargh, I is dead.

ULC
01-06-2010, 23:22
Suspicious.

Oh. aren't. we. all.

Scienter
01-06-2010, 23:23
[edit]Also, I believe this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetala) may be the role of the person who killed slashandburn and Csargo.

The Vetala doesn't have any of its limbs fall off after killing its victim. That seems pretty important.

Joooray
01-07-2010, 00:01
Khaan is not letting anyone, at all, influence how they appear in the write ups - I already inquired because I wanted an awesome death scene :laugh4:

Maybe I can help you with that. Vote: YLC. :evilgrin:

Okay, cheap shot, but I don't have anything on anyone and I have to go to bed now and don't want to miss this round again. And abstaining is for looser.

Askthepizzaguy
01-07-2010, 00:53
We will obviously have more votes and activity soon, yes? :inquisitive:

Winston Hughes
01-07-2010, 01:03
Hmm... Choices, choices...

I think I'll go back to vote: GeneralHankerchief.

He struck me as suspicious earlier on, and nothing has happened to change that.

Cultured Drizzt fan
01-07-2010, 01:08
We will obviously have more votes and activity soon, yes? :inquisitive:

... maybe.


Vote: ACIN for no reason other than the fact I am a evil apparition of cristmas past, and I want to kill you all.

ULC
01-07-2010, 01:15
Unvote, Vote: GeneralHankerchief

Beskar
01-07-2010, 01:17
Unvote, Vote: GeneralHankerchief

I almost replied "Why are you voting in your own game?" then I realised it was Netherworld.

CCRunner
01-07-2010, 01:18
i've been confusing them a bit too ><

ULC
01-07-2010, 01:19
I almost replied "Why are you voting in your own game?" then I realised it was Netherworld.

I'm starting to get confused to - almost yelled at CDF for voting when he had been lynched.

Joooray
01-07-2010, 01:21
I almost replied "Why are you voting in your own game?" then I realised it was Netherworld.
Yeah, I get confused all the time as well. Especially since there is necromancy in both games. :laugh4:

Anyway since I stayed up late and since GH's name was thrown back and forth for some time now I'll unvote: YLC ; Vote: GH.

Cultured Drizzt fan
01-07-2010, 01:22
I'm starting to get confused to - almost yelled at CDF for voting when he had been lynched.

:cry: You wound me YLC, I would never ruin such an amazing game.


Even if Beskar is baiting me with his blasphemous lies and falsehoods.......

Askthepizzaguy
01-07-2010, 01:23
I'm confused too, for OTHER REASONS.

Beefy187
01-07-2010, 01:42
Vote: TM

I'm probably wrong, but you seem scummy every game.

Chaotix
01-07-2010, 01:52
Vote: Abstain

Swamped with work today, I'll try to catch up a little later.

Beskar
01-07-2010, 01:54
Vote: TM

I'm probably wrong, but you seem scummy every game.

Speaking of scummy everygame... hello atheotes.

Vote: atheotes :beam: