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Subotan
06-19-2010, 23:24
Btw, I would like some opinion about my write-ups. This is the first game I have done where they have been so long, and there have been so many of them, and I was just wondering what you all thought of things like the general writing style, the pictures, the Mao quotes at the beginning of phase etc. It's no good waiting for the game to finish and then saying "Oh yeah, the pictures really sucked and distracted from the write-ups", so I'd prefer any criticism now rather than later.

Renata
06-20-2010, 00:10
@Renata and Winston

So being the second person to vote for a particular player is called bandwaggoning?

heard of "3rd one on the bandwagon is usually the scummy one?" we'll im not 3rd thats for sure

I'm SURE theres a bigger bandwaggon than that on Autolycus

You two are deffinitely being edgy over someone who isn't even anywhere near being lynched

I'll be *watching* you two

:inquisitive:

I'll be voting you.

Double A
06-20-2010, 00:15
Agree: Comrade autolycus

I would have said something like we only ask for part of their crops, but he did that 1 hour thing. That's even better than mine.

Renata
06-20-2010, 00:17
agree: Autolycus

Also, having caught up (and reading in reverse order as usual): by the hairy back of the great Mao was that ever a stupid lynch.

landlubber
06-20-2010, 00:37
Agree: Autolycus.

a completely inoffensive name
06-20-2010, 00:37
Anyone who is voting for me even though I am an officer, should automatically have the FoS pointed at them. I have proved my loyalty to the only people who need to know who I am, and they have trusted me with this position. Message me if you are interested some sanctioned groups for various purposes.

GeneralHankerchief
06-20-2010, 01:13
:wall: :wall: :wall:

In case he didn't make it clear in one of the posts, Azathoth was one of the people who was protecting Beskar.

Great start, guys.

Romanic
06-20-2010, 01:14
Btw, I would like some opinion about my write-ups. This is the first game I have done where they have been so long, and there have been so many of them, and I was just wondering what you all thought of things like the general writing style, the pictures, the Mao quotes at the beginning of phase etc. It's no good waiting for the game to finish and then saying "Oh yeah, the pictures really sucked and distracted from the write-ups", so I'd prefer any criticism now rather than later.

I like it all Subo, the writeups are great and the pictures are a nice touch. I like your humor, how you describe what happened in the game thread. Good job, keep it up! :2thumbsup:

GeneralHankerchief
06-20-2010, 01:20
Calming down a bit...

I need at least 11 volunteers for tonight. Some of you have been contacted already.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-20-2010, 01:22
I would help out. :tongue:

Romanic
06-20-2010, 01:31
:wall: :wall: :wall:

In case he didn't make it clear in one of the posts, Azathoth was one of the people who was protecting Beskar.

Great start, guys.

The Japanese attacked Beskar so as far as I know, Azathoth could have been Kuomintang. He also could have be a Japanese trying to gain our trust. It would be prudent not to confirm people as PEXDET just because they successfully protected someone.

If I understand the last writeup correctly, we will know Azathoth's faction in three days.


“That was necessary” muttered GeneralHankerchief. “ I shall investigate Azathoth's belongings, and within three days we shall have a confirmation as to his purpose among us, and whether that purpose was benign.

Captain Blackadder
06-20-2010, 01:42
agree: Autolycus

That is indeed a worthy suggestion comrade for the glroy of the revolution

Pinman
06-20-2010, 02:23
Agree: Autolycus

I concur, comrade.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-20-2010, 02:50
:wall: :wall: :wall:

In case he didn't make it clear in one of the posts, Azathoth was one of the people who was protecting Beskar.

Great start, guys.

Hmm, so you wanted to string up the bodyguard because he was told about the attack, but it's terrible that one of the people who actually had something to gain from the stopped attack was lynched? Remember capo III GH.

GeneralHankerchief
06-20-2010, 02:56
Stop being so paranoid, at least in this instance. Azathoth was a very confused newbie playing his first ever game who didn't even know how to send orders properly, which I think Subotan himself confirmed in the thread. This is the deep cover operative we lynched in the very first day? No, instead you made me lose one of the people that I could temporarily trust until our officers could get a better read on him.

Death is yonder
06-20-2010, 05:25
Agree: Proposal by Comrade Autolycus

That is a very worthy proposal indeed Comrade, we shall further the causes of the revolution by proving we are much unlike the destructive KMT fools, all the while our men are fed and our peasant brothers are compensated.

Chaotix
06-20-2010, 05:55
Agree: autolycus

I might have suggested something that serves us more than them, but I suppose this will do.

miotas
06-20-2010, 06:08
agree: autolycus

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 07:12
agree: autolycus

Jolt
06-20-2010, 11:30
Agree: Autolycus

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-20-2010, 12:17
Agree: Autolycus.

Comrade Autolycus knows the true path towards proletariat justice!

Joooray
06-20-2010, 14:40
Agree: Autolycus. Very good proposal, comrade. :bow:

Sorry for not being active so far and not voting. I'll try to do better in the future.

shlin28
06-20-2010, 15:22
I hardly think an hour's worth of labour is enough to repay the debt we owe to the hard-working peasants, and the word 'require' simply reeks of rightist thinking. Have we fallen already so low to the level of landlords?

Instead I Propose: We will only take what peasants freely give to us, without any coercion or force. In return, we will aid them with their struggle against the evil landlords, in order to ensure that land is divided fairly amongst everyone and so enable them to live fairly without being exploited.

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 15:28
I hardly think an hour's worth of labour is enough to repay the debt we owe to the hard-working peasants, and the word 'require' simply reeks of rightist thinking. Have we fallen already so low to the level of landlords?

Instead I Propose: We will only take what peasants freely give to us, without any coercion or force. In return, we will aid them with their struggle against the evil landlords, in order to ensure that land is divided fairly amongst everyone and so enable them to live fairly without being exploited.

just no, if we let them on their free will, the greedy capitalist tought will get them, and they won't support us, because they not feeling the benefits of communism yet

sometimes, it was better to got pressure on them to direct their work and energy, as well as support us

shlin28
06-20-2010, 15:34
Sometimes, it is better to not betray what you believe in. :book:

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 15:36
Sometimes, it is better to not betray what you believe in. :book:

but without we pressing them, they'll just sold their products at the highest market price, something that those capitalist pigs have made to corrupt the lesser minds of us

Romanic
06-20-2010, 15:37
What kind of proposition is this from autolycus?

We've been walking long hours toward Yan'an Soviet since we've been attacked, with the enemy possibly following behind us. Our expedition is likely to be infiltrated by our two enemies, the Japanese AND the Kuomintang. We're risking our lives for the country and the communist cause, how can you all agree that we work on rice fields one hour per day? We need that hour!

Farmers are expected to give us food, after all we are fighting for our nation. A seventh of their crop is nothing compared to the future of our children, besides, we shouldn't have to work, we're doing enough as it is.

Why is everyone agreeing to this without any arguing? Are you all scared to be marked as KMT or Japanese? We are at war, the soldiers don't work in the fields!

I humbly make a counter proposal where the farmers feed us without any compensatory labor from us. A seventh of their crop is not much, and will not break our Party's ideal about treating the farmers with respect.

propose: The farmers we encounter should feed give us a seventh of their crops, without any compensatory work from us.

shlin28's proposal isn't much better, we could starve if we wait for someone to feed us.

shlin28
06-20-2010, 15:42
What kind of proposition is this from autolycus?

We've been walking long hours toward Yan'an Soviet since we've been attacked, with the enemy possibly following behind us. Our expedition is likely to be infiltrated by our two enemies, the Japanese AND the Kuomintang. We're risking our lives for the country and the communist cause, how can you all agree that we work on rice fields one hour per day? We need that hour!

Farmers are expected to give us food, after all we are fighting for our nation. A seventh of their crop is nothing compared to the future of our children, besides, we shouldn't have to work, we're doing enough as it is.

Why is everyone agreeing to this without any arguing? Are you all scared to be marked as KMT or Japanese? We are at war, the soldiers don't work in the fields!

I humbly make a counter proposal where the farmers feed us without any compensatory labor from us. A seventh of their crop is not much, and will not break our Party's ideal about treating the farmers with respect.

propose: The farmers we encounter should feed give us a seventh of their crops, without any compensatory work from us.

shlin28's proposal isn't much better, we could starve if we wait for someone to feed us.

If a KMT detachment did what you proposed, we would (rightfully) be indignant and curse their actions as exploitative and capitalist, yet if we do it, somehow it is alright?

Do not go over to the dark side, Romanic :no:

Romanic
06-20-2010, 15:49
If a KMT detachment did what you proposed, we would (rightfully) be indignant and curse their actions as exploitative and capitalist, yet if we do it, somehow it is alright?

Do not go over to the dark side, Romanic :no:

I respectfully disagree, a seventh of their crops is not a lot. Besides, in times of war, sacrifices from everyone are necessarry, farmers included.

Beskar
06-20-2010, 16:02
Or we could just take half of their crop, if they put up resistance, we shoot them.

Also, the Japanese are on our trail, so they will most likely get more fed then us.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-20-2010, 16:03
Comrade autolycus seems to have come up with the best decision in this case. The other proposals are simply too extreme in either directions.

We can spare a single hour to help the people. Because what is the entire point of the revolution if we can not help the people?

Joooray
06-20-2010, 16:16
Nippon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon) = Name of Japan in Japanese.
Nippo was simply Nippon without the n, as "Nippons" or "Nippeons" or "Nippowegians" to actually describe some one from Nippon sound quite right.

As far as I know, it isn't an insult in anyway.

Not knowing anything about the particular word itself, your argument seems reasonable. But you might want to considering the huge controversy the use of "Paki" always stirs in Great Britain (Prince Harry anyone?), which also seems to me just like a abbreviation of Pakistani, but obviously has a certain history. :shrug:

Beskar
06-20-2010, 16:24
Not knowing anything about the particular word itself, your argument seems reasonable. But you might want to considering the huge controversy the use of "Paki" always stirs in Great Britain (Prince Harry anyone?), which also seems to me just like a abbreviation of Pakistani, but obviously has a certain history. :shrug:

It is mainly because lots of people actually say it to Indians/etc. Since Pakistan and India heavily dislike eachother (Pakistan is Muslim, India is Hindu), you can tell why it can be quite offensive. It is mainly because of mislabelling (they are not from Pakistan). So unjustified use of the word.

The context I was using it in, would be same as: "Those damn Germans bombed the bridge", "Hah, Silly Brit could not shoot straight", "Oh look, the French just surrendered again".

Obviously, this is different again from words such as Krauts, Tommies and Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys which were actually used during the war.

Chaotix
06-20-2010, 16:40
Unagree, Agree: Romanic

His idea is much more pragmatic. We do not have time to work their fields when we are already busy fighting those who would burn their fields and rape their wives.

Romanic
06-20-2010, 16:44
Comrade autolycus seems to have come up with the best decision in this case. The other proposals are simply too extreme in either directions.

We can spare a single hour to help the people. Because what is the entire point of the revolution if we can not help the people?

Did you think about what would happen if the KMT army show up while we're working in the fields? We'll be shot like rabbits.

We will help people once we're in power, but now, we must think about our survival.

TheFlax
06-20-2010, 16:47
We are putting our very lives at stake for their future and the future of our country. The way I see it, they will never be able to compensate us for our sacrifices, but a seventh of their crops is a good start.

Agree: Romanic

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 16:49
Did you think about what would happen if the KMT army show up while we're working in the fields? We'll be shot like rabbits.

We will help people once we're in power, but now, we must think about our survival.

we could kill the Japs with another matter, we could even try to smuggle some liquid tiberium bombs to the Japanese stronghold, and destroy them from within

Joooray
06-20-2010, 17:19
It is mainly because lots of people actually say it to Indians/etc. Since Pakistan and India heavily dislike eachother (Pakistan is Muslim, India is Hindu), you can tell why it can be quite offensive. It is mainly because of mislabelling (they are not from Pakistan). So unjustified use of the word.

The context I was using it in, would be same as: "Those damn Germans bombed the bridge", "Hah, Silly Brit could not shoot straight", "Oh look, the French just surrendered again".

Obviously, this is different again from words such as Krauts, Tommies and Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys which were actually used during the war.

I didn't want to imply that you were disrespecting anyone. Just wanted to express a thought I had.
--
Regarding the proposal of Romanic, I hope that doesn't imply we will take that share with excessive force. Other than that I agree with the reasoning.
Unagree; Agree: Romanic

Secura
06-20-2010, 17:27
I'm curious, why do we need to take a portion of the harvest from hardworking farmers when we can simply forage and hunt for our food?

The lands of China are bountiful with various creatures and fauna that can feed us, I see no need to take from others when nature provides so adequately. The rewards are ultimately more fulfilling too.

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 17:47
I'm curious, why do we need to take a portion of the harvest from hardworking farmers when we can simply forage and hunt for our food?

The lands of China are bountiful with various creatures and fauna that can feed us, I see no need to take from others when nature provides so adequately. The rewards are ultimately more fulfilling too.

indeed you can forage, but it will give us easier time forced the peasants to give a portion of their harvests for us. Of course, we could work as compensation for them, but if necessary, bayonet under their necks are good substitute of that...

miotas
06-20-2010, 17:49
Foraging for all our food would be too time consuming. How big is this town anyway? 1/7 of all their food sounds like too much for us to carry let alone eat. How about we take the bare minimum rations needed to make it to the next town and forage for any extra we may need.

taka
06-20-2010, 17:57
i suggest 1/8th or 8%, 8 is the chinese lucky number and anything with 8 in will make them feel lucky and willing to help

Romanic
06-20-2010, 18:07
Regarding the proposal of Romanic, I hope that doesn't imply we will take that share with excessive force. Other than that I agree with the reasoning.
Unagree; Agree: Romanic

The proposal from our Director of Proletarian Justice, as well as mine, do not take account of farmers refusing to feed us, however I am strongly against killing anyone if we don't have to. Farmers being farmers, they shouldn't oppose much resistance, we're not taking all their crops after all.

I'd like to hear the opinion of comrade GeneralHankerchief on this, after all he's our leader.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-20-2010, 18:18
propose:I have a small store that sells various caffeinated beverages, I propose that we start selling franchises around the country, that way we can all be more alert in the morning (for only a few dollars)

miotas
06-20-2010, 18:22
I'm off to bed, and I think this round will be over by the time I wake up, so I'm going to

Unagree: autolycus

and

propose: take the minimum rations needed to make it to the next town and forage for any extra we may need.

taka
06-20-2010, 18:26
Here's a better proposal:

propose: The farmers we encounter should feed give us a seventh of their crops, and in return we will protect the town for however long we stay till.

that way:

1) we get our food,
2) we're not not doing anything in return - we're protecting them from japanese attacks and torture and from KMT doing anything bad.
3) spending an hour in the fields is risky due to possible encounter with the enemy, setting up watch and defences means we are better prepared and the townspeople will be safe to do what they need to.

Romanic
06-20-2010, 18:40
taka, your proposal is essentially the same as mine, albeit more specific. If the town is attacked, I'm not expecting to sit and watch the show. Also, any new proposal with less than 4 hours from the deadline is not likely to pass. Mine was also too late, and I am afraid we will be working in the fields tomorrow morning.

EDIT: And miotas, taking what we need is not necessarily better than taking a seventh. We have no idea how much food they have, so "what we need" could be half their food. Also 1/7 does not mean that we will take more that we need (at least I don't think so, we're not thieves).

taka
06-20-2010, 18:46
taka, your proposal is essentially the same as mine, albeit more specific. If the town is attacked, I'm not expecting to sit and watch the show. Also, any new proposal with less than 4 hours from the deadline is not likely to pass. Mine was also too late, and I am afraid we will be working in the fields tomorrow morning.

yes, mine if essentially a modified version of yours but that fact that we are doing something and letting the public know that we ARE doing something. its fair and square to say nothing but protect the town anyway BUT its letting the towns people know that they're getting their values worth from the crops. its psychologically better to swallow.

Romanic
06-20-2010, 18:52
yes, mine if essentially a modified version of yours but that fact that we are doing something and letting the public know that we ARE doing something. its fair and square to say nothing but protect the town anyway BUT its letting the towns people know that they're getting their values worth from the crops. its psychologically better to swallow.

And I agree that your proposal is better worded, but again protection is implicit in mine. We won't watch the Japanese or the KMT tear this town apart if we're around. I want to agree to your proposal, but with 3 hours left, I doubt yours has any chance to pass, mine with barely 4 votes is very unlikely either. Our two propositions are similar and competing needlessly.

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 19:35
did all of you forgot that Autolycus' gave us better insight into the real Proletariat duty? We use hammer and SICKLE! don't you? SICKLE SICKLE SICKLE SICKLE SICKLE

one hour of work in the field can't hurt

Double A
06-20-2010, 19:37
ooc: When did we become Russia?

Subotan
06-20-2010, 19:40
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flag_of_the_Chinese_Soviet_Republic.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_Chinese_Soviet_Republic.svg.png

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 19:53
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flag_of_the_Chinese_Soviet_Republic.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_Chinese_Soviet_Republic.svg.png

好好... 他们看不到镰刀的... 我们是共产党!!!

Niklas
06-20-2010, 20:00
Agree: Romanic

johnhughthom
06-20-2010, 20:48
Agree: Autolycus.

a completely inoffensive name
06-20-2010, 20:54
If anyone wants to be my deputy, send me a message please.

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 20:57
If anyone wants to be my deputy, send me a message please.

:gah: just like the second men? for what?

Subotan
06-20-2010, 21:05
Deadline reached. Write-up will commence in approximately 1 hour.

Subotan
06-20-2010, 22:11
In guerrilla warfare, select the tactic of seeming to come from the east and attacking from the west; avoid the solid, attack the hollow; attack; withdraw; deliver a lightning blow, seek a lightning decision. When guerrillas engage a stronger enemy, they withdraw when he advances; harass him when he stops; strike him when he is weary; pursue him when he withdraws. In guerilla strategy, the enemy's rear, flanks, and other vulnerable spots are his vital points, and there he must be harassed, attacked, dispersed, exhausted and annihilated. Only in this way can guerrillas carry out their mission of independent guerrilla action and coordination with the effort of the regular armies. But, in spite of the most complete preparation, there can be no victory if mistakes are made in the matter of command. Guerilla warfare based on the principles we have mentioned and carried out over a vast extent of territory in which communications are inconvenient will contribute tremendously towards ultimate defeat of the Japanese and consequent emancipation of the Chinese people. – Mao Zedong, on Guerrilla Warfare

It was decided that Comrade autolycus’ proposal, that PEXDET should “require a donation from each farmer of a seventh of his crop to our worthy cause, and that we compensate the farmers of each town with an hour's service in their fields each morning before we continue onwards.”, was now the policy of PEXDET towards acquiring food for the Revolutionaries. The peasants were disgruntled with this deal, as it was the sowing season and they disliked giving away such a large portion of their food before the winter came, but there wasn’t much that the peasants could do, and they reckoned that it was better then the soldiers taking all of their food. To the peasants, the Socialist were just another band of traveling thugs, as no attempt was made to instill Marxist ideology into the town was made, somewhat surprisingly.

***

Winston Hughes was sleeping. He had commandeered one of the richer peasant’s house for his sole use, and he had been pleased with the comparative luxuriousness of the bed he was sleeping in compared to the dirty rags he had been used to. Winston was dreaming about a cat, a cat eating poop. The dream quickly degenerated into a nightmare, with the dream becoming more surreal, frightening and harder to understand the longer Winston tossed and turned in bed.

Winston woke up with a start, covered in sweat. The room was pitch black, save for a slit of moonlight which slipped in through the narrow window to his side. All Winston could hear was his fast, shallow breathing, and the odd rustle from the bush swaying in the light wind outside his window.

“Finally” said the darkness, in a low, whisper

Winston jumped out of his skin, absolutely petrified; the poop eating cat was nothing compared to the terror he was now experiencing

“So,” continued the voice “I’ve finally found you. For the first time in three long years, I have you right in my sights. And best of all, there’s no way you can escape this time”

“What are you talking about?” wailed Winston “I haven’t done anything, I’m a good Communist!”

“Yes,” replied the voice, “You would say that. But then your definition of “Communist” would probably be more accurately described as traitor. Remember Si Dalin? Pan Tu? Lang Zhu? And the others you killed? Huh? Remember?”

Winston shook his head frantically.

“Who are they? And I’ve never killed anyone!”

The shadows tutted:

“Even if you hadn’t murdered all those brave, loyal Communists, I’d still be killing you in the next two minutes anyway, because of what you did in Shanghai”

“Shanghai? I’ve never been to Shanghai!” screamed Winston

“Oh yes you have,” replied the dark, “And you killed a man there. He was my brother, and there is no denying that, you villainous scum.”

And with that, a hand reached out of the shadow and grabbed Winston cry the collar, and pulled his face into the moonlight.

“You sneaky slug….you even shaved your facial hair off. You could have done a better disguise than that…”

“I can’t even grow a beard...” whimpered Winston.

The voice responded by plunging a sword deep into Winston’s chest and out the other side. Winston choked and flailed, and blood gushed out all over the bed sheets.

***

On the other side of town, a lock was broken. The door swung open, and in crept a gang of armed men. Five of them slipped in, and surrounded the bed of one Sasaki Kojiro. The men all looked to the tallest man, who gave a nod and drew his firearm. The others complied and drew their own weapons. The gathered all aimed their guns at the sleeping body, and with a second nod from the tall man, opened fire. The hail of bullets was woefully disproportionate, and some of the more enthusiastic members of the group had to empty their clips before they stopped clicking their triggers. Not surprisingly, the body was not moving and was covered in wounds and leaking blood when the shooting stopped. Gingerly, the tall man reached forward and rolled the mess onto its side to reveal the face of the victim. It was the face of Sasaki Kojiro.

“Hmm”

The tall man was obviously irritated that the occupant of the house was his victim, for some strange reason. He gestured to the other soldiers, and they filed out of the house, silently.

***

johnhughthom was alert and ready for anything. Perched on the roof of his house in the autumn cold, he drank booze and smoked his cheap cigarettes at a furious pace, lighting new ones before the old ones had even burnt out. Because of this, of all the people who were attacked that night in Daozhen, johnhughthom was the only one who was not surprised. Seeing an intruder approach from over the rooftops, johnhughthom immediately stood up.

“Have you come for vengeance, or are you a fool?” shouted johnhughthom

The intruder said nothing and began to reach inside his coat

“A fool then”, said johnhughthom as he snatched one of the bottles that lay scattered at his feet. Lighting the rag attached to it with his cigarette, johnhughthom hurled the lethal weapon through the air in a high parabola. Seeing the petrol bomb gliding through the air, the attacker dived to the side in a frantic bid to avoid the bottle of death. But his jump was misjudged, as he soared off the roof to land in a pile of manure with a sickening squelch, just as a colossal KABOOM lit up the sky and house above him. Disorientated and groaning in disgust, the man could only lie there as johnhughthom scampered away across the rooftops, proud of his handiwork and the awesomeness of the devastation he had left behind him.

***

A Communist was meant to be busy reading Das Kapital, but it really was as dull as everybody claimed it was. The fact that it was late at night didn't help, but it was just so physically EXHAUSTING to read. He started dropping off to sleep, whena knock came at his door. Startled, the Communist went over to unlock it and was greeted by a man in a crisp uniform.

"Hello young Communist, I'm a representative of the legitimate government of China, and I'm here to make you an offer. May I come in?"

Not waiting for a reply, the Kuomintang Officer strolled in and sat down on the startled Communist's bed. Noticing the thick book lying on the bed, the Officer rolled his eyes

"You're trying to read this? Man, it's heavy going isn't it? And the worst part is, it's all such rubbish! "Hurr de hurr, and look at the tendency for the rate of profit to fall blah blah blah", I mean what is that?" asked the Officer. Not waiting for a reply, he continued:

"Fundamentally, what use is Marx? He claims that a revolution could only happen in an industrialised country; something China clearly isn't! What is the point of fighting for socialism when your prophet says it is doomed to fail in the current environment? Now, Nationalism, on the other hand, is something worth fighting for. All Chinese are bonded by blood, not divided by class, and it in such unity that the Japanese can be best resisted! By spouting nonsense such as "The International Bourgeoisie are conspiring against the working class", Mao completely fails to address the single biggest problem afflicting China today; the Japanese! Don't you agree?"

The sole audience nodded energetically, mainly because a pistol was now being aimed at his head.

"Aha, so we have a consensus. In that case, meet me tomorrow night. We shall strike at these rats from within tomorrow."

The Officer stood up and strode out of the door with as much tenacity as he had when he entered. And the poor confused wreck of a man that he had left behind had just betrayed his entire ideology.


***

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GeneralHankerchief gathered the survivors of the previous night to the central plaza of Daozhen.

“Comrades, it appears that even if Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, that there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

A steely grimness was the reply of the Maoists.


“Obviously, we must again choose a candidate to lynch” continued the Chairman. “But before we do that, it appears that you have volunteered to work in the fields as “payment” for the food we’re commandeering from these poor peasants. Umm, OK then, let’s get to work.”

And with that, the Marxists glumly exited the main gate to the rice paddies surrounding Daozhen. Only a few were genuinely enthusiastic about the prospect of an hour of farm work, with most only supporting the measure because it was the only one available. As it was the sowing season for rice, there wasn’t a huge amount of stuff to do, and the Communists blundered around and generally got in the way of professional farmers who knew what they were doing, although a few of the Socialists were expert farmers who performed their job well. After the hour was up, PEXDET awkwardly left the town, under the exasperated gazes of a town which had seen two murders, a lynching, a house fire and the theft of 1/7th of the town’s food in the twelve hours the Red Army had been there.

https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7381/wearychinese.jpg

Exiting the town, the soldiers found their path gradually winding upwards into hillier and rougher terrain. The already uneven road became more broken and ill defined, and the upwards march was tiring for the Marxists, but it wasn’t like that had a choice.



Alive players: 37/40
ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC

Lynched players 1/40

Azathoth

Killed Players 2/40

Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro

I am expecting more people to actually vote his time. People who have still not voted by the end of this phase shall go on the Bad List. And those on the Bad List will not enjoy that position.

As you are clowning around in the rice paddies, this phase shall end in 22 hours, at 20:00 GMT+1 tomorrow. Happy Lynching!

Beskar
06-20-2010, 22:42
Hah, interesting, it appears Azathoth was mafia afterall.

Who else was in that group?

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-20-2010, 22:47
Vote: beefy

Romanic
06-20-2010, 22:52
“Comrades, it appears that even if Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, that there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”I'm not interpreting this like Beskar. I think it means that we still don't know about Azathoth's faction, but we know there's still enemies in our ranks because we saw two murders.

What happened with the vigilante kill of Sasaki? Was he the target that Beefy was supposed to protect and die in his place?

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-20-2010, 22:53
I'm not interpreting this like Beskar. I think it means that we still don't know about Azathoth's faction, but we know there's still enemies in our ranks because we saw two murders.

What happened with the vigilante kill of Sasaki? Was he the target that Beefy was supposed to protect and die in his place?

Thats what I was led to believe. :tongue:

Subotan
06-20-2010, 22:54
I'm not interpreting this like Beskar. I think it means that we still don't know about Azathoth's faction, but we know there's still enemies in our ranks because we saw two murders.
That is correct.

GeneralHankerchief
06-20-2010, 22:55
Beefy was supposed to protect Sasaki last night.

Lynch him.

Beskar
06-20-2010, 22:56
vote: Beefy187

He obviously did not protect Sasaki, and he most likely attacked Johnhughthom.


I think it means that we still don't know about Azathoth's faction, but we know there's still enemies in our ranks because we saw two murders.

I put it this way. We are revolutionaries, therefore, a counter-revolutionary is our enemy, and most likely the nationalists.

Cute Wolf
06-20-2010, 22:57
vote: Beefy
because we failed to lynch him the day before all those tragedy happened....

Romanic
06-20-2010, 22:59
vote: Beefy then, until I hear a satisfying explanation.

But what the heck? Why would we target Sasaki and not an inactive member to make this test about Beefy?

shlin28
06-20-2010, 23:01
Hah, interesting, it appears Azathoth was mafia afterall.

Who else was in that group?

Erm... how do you know that? I don't see anything in the write-up that implicates Azathoth.

From the write-up, I only see a KMT officer recruiting someone, a crazy person hunting a "traitor" (I would say he is crazy because he mentioned dead Communists such as "Si Dalin", which is Chinese for Stalin, and "Pan Tu", Chinese for "Traitor".), a group of vig killers, as well as Johnhughthom avoiding being murdered. (Perhaps he is the person being hunted by the crazy person?)

Right now, I will continue to vote against the evil unelected rightists currently in power. Today, it would be...

Vote: Yaseikhaan

Edit: Ignore first line, question answered already.

seireikhaan
06-20-2010, 23:03
Vote: Beefy. He was not doing his job last night. Any glorious society cannot afford those who are slack in their duties. They risk the future of all by their gross negligence.

taka
06-20-2010, 23:09
If beefy was meant to protect Sasaki and didn't, then I guess we have no choice really:

Vote: Beefy

however, why did we use Sasaki as bait?

Beskar
06-20-2010, 23:10
Edit: Ignore first line, question answered already.

Looks like the write-up was edited as well. Hence the confusion.

I am sure it said:
“Comrades, it appears that Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

and it was changed to:
“Comrades, it appears that even if Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, that there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

Romanic
06-20-2010, 23:15
Looks like the write-up was edited as well. Hence the confusion.

I am sure it said:
“Comrades, it appears that Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

and it was changed to:
“Comrades, it appears that even if Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, that there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

The vandals struck again? GH must be behind this! :laugh4:

Beefy187
06-20-2010, 23:16
Late by 1 hour..
Came back drunk yesterday :wall:

Lynch me.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-20-2010, 23:17
however, why did we use Sasaki as bait?

I am not privy to the decision making behind it, but I would assume it was because Sasaki was one of the leading defenders of beefy last day phase.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-20-2010, 23:18
Just because beefy missed his defence doesn't mean you should jump on and lynch him. For that reason, I should have been lynched the first day (I was inactive and didn't follow my order).

You all claim you want equality, but you're too eager to welcome a brutal mob rule into this revolution! Comrades, this makes us no better than the capitalist pigs; we're trampling over each other in a bid to remain alive!

Vote: No lynch

shlin28
06-20-2010, 23:20
Looks like the write-up was edited as well. Hence the confusion.

I am sure it said:
“Comrades, it appears that Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

and it was changed to:
“Comrades, it appears that even if Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, that there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”

I'm pretty sure it had not been changed (in this regard at the very least). I first read the write up about 10 minutes after it was posted, and saw read the current version, minus the bit about the KMT recruiting a player. After I took a shower and came back to post, the write-up remain the same (except now it has the KMT bit).

Beefy187
06-20-2010, 23:23
Vote: Beefy

I could've sent in my orders yesterday night...
I'm not happy with my self that I didn't.. And for that a player died..

a completely inoffensive name
06-20-2010, 23:24
Vote: Beefy

Pinman
06-20-2010, 23:42
Vote: Beefy

The self vote says all.

Seamus Fermanagh
06-20-2010, 23:49
Vote: Comrade Beefy, unless we hear something that makes a better choice. Beefy, even if you are truthful, drunken dereliction of duty is no way to serve the revolution.

Jolt
06-21-2010, 00:06
Lazyness and drinking are against the revolutionary masses! It is the peasants who work hard to toil the fields and do not have the luxury to dissipate in wine or other assorted pleasures. If the example does not come from above, how can we exhort the people to sacrifice themselves for the revolution? For this breach of strictness you are condemned to death.

Vote: Beefy

Secura
06-21-2010, 00:08
Vote: No lynch

I think no lynch and abstain votes aren't allowed, or was that just Subo being facetious?

vote: Beefy.

Chaotix
06-21-2010, 00:11
Vote: Beefy

Why did we let Beefy live again?

Oh, right, because Sasaki asked us to.

And now Sasaki is dead because Beefy didn't protect him.

Brilliant.

Niklas
06-21-2010, 00:11
There is simply no way we can afford giving the benefit of doubt in this situation. Beefy is now acting in the only way he possibly could in order to possibly prolong his survival, and we should not risk falling for it. If Beefy speaks true, it is a shame on his name alone. If he speaks false, it is an even greater shame. Either way we have no choice.

vote: Beefy

Renata
06-21-2010, 00:12
vote: Beefy then, until I hear a satisfying explanation.

But what the hell? Why would we target Sasaki and not an inactive member to make this test about Beefy?

Maybe they wanted to test Sasaki's loyalty. I doubt a counter-revolutionary coward or a Japanese spy would be eager to risk himself that way. That is my guess, if Sasaki was aware of it. (Was he?)

I suppose Beefy has to die; there's no other way to be sure the mistake actually was one.

vote: Beefy

Azathoth
06-21-2010, 00:29
Hah, interesting, it appears Azathoth was mafia afterall.

Who else was in that group?

Hang Beefy, I'm saving something up that I think will surprise you lot. :wink:

wideyedwanderer
06-21-2010, 01:21
Vote: beefy. Why? Because really, is there anyone else to vote for?

Sasaki Kojiro
06-21-2010, 01:24
hmm, pm message tracking isn't working anymore is it?

Captain Blackadder
06-21-2010, 01:30
Vote Beefy

It is clear that Beefy is not a loyal communist or he is a lying communist either way he must be destroyed for the good of the revolution.

landlubber
06-21-2010, 01:48
Vote: Beefy
He seems ashamed, so I would be surprised if he was actually mafia. In any case, a suicidal townie is a bad townie.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-21-2010, 02:19
At what hour was the pm to beefy telling him to protect me sent? Did he reply?

Double A
06-21-2010, 03:32
vote: abstain

While Beefy looks extremely guilty, I'm keeping my vote off of him in case someone PMs GH with a much better lynch.

Chaotix
06-21-2010, 03:35
vote: abstain

While Beefy looks extremely guilty, I'm keeping my vote off of him in case someone PMs GH with a much better lynch.

Abstains are invalid, I believe.

Double A
06-21-2010, 04:18
Oh fine, not like this bandwagon's gonna get turned around anyway, even if there was a reason for it.

unvote, vote: Beefy

miotas
06-21-2010, 04:48
Vote: Beefy

Seamus Fermanagh
06-21-2010, 05:12
While necessary, it seems almost a shame. This vote will never tell us anything later on. Oh well, omelettes and eggs....

Beefy187
06-21-2010, 07:39
At what hour was the pm to beefy telling him to protect me sent? Did he reply?

At 10:52 my time (I think I setted my time zone on GMT+9), I recieved a pm from GH to protect Sasaki.
However I left my grandmas house around 8:20 as I had a meeting of a uni event starting at 11 AM.
From 11AM till 7PM I was at Uni, doing the event. And from 7 till 11:20 I was drinking.

Came back home around 12ish, so I could've easily sent a pm to Subo, and until I had a shower I was planning to.
But I completely forgot.

As I am clearly going to be a towns distraction, lynch me now. Or i'll protect/ die tonight.
Again, my apologies for this complete failure.

Askthepizzaguy
06-21-2010, 07:47
I'm not even in this game.

Vote: Beefy


:laugh4:

naut
06-21-2010, 07:47
While necessary, it seems almost a shame. This vote will never tell us anything later on. Oh well, omelettes and eggs....
I wouldn't be so glum. A couple votes this round have tweaked my gut, in a few rounds I can see some potential cases opening up.

vote: Beefy

Subotan
06-21-2010, 08:51
Looks like the write-up was edited as well. Hence the confusion.
Apart from the conversion thing, it wasn't :shrug:


I think no lynch and abstain votes aren't allowed, or was that just Subo being facetious?.
That is correct.


hmm, pm message tracking isn't working anymore is it?
You have to manually check it.

ULC
06-21-2010, 11:13
I feel like washing my hands of this vote - it borders on ridiculous.

GeneralHankerchief
06-21-2010, 11:27
Announcement: If I need volunteers for night activities, don't contact me - I'll contact you. This will allow you to keep your groups and form cliques, etc., but I do ask that you keep me updated on what's happening. Thanks.

johnhughthom
06-21-2010, 13:43
Vote: Beefy

autolycus
06-21-2010, 13:46
Well, it seems like there isn't much of a choice.
vote: Beefy

Death is yonder
06-21-2010, 14:34
Evidently there is no other possible lynch than beefy, so I will:

Vote: Beefy

However, I am very curious with GH's intention to use Sasaki as the possible victim. Is this blatant retaliation for his, as he himself put it, "contribution to a player that for the moment, I could temporarily trust": AKA Azathoth :inquisitive:


Stop being so paranoid, at least in this instance. Azathoth was a very confused newbie playing his first ever game who didn't even know how to send orders properly, which I think Subotan himself confirmed in the thread. This is the deep cover operative we lynched in the very first day? No, instead you made me lose one of the people that I could temporarily trust until our officers could get a better read on him.

Cute Wolf
06-21-2010, 15:44
well, let us see if we sucessfully lynch beefy, maybe we'll got some peaceful night after this... two murders and one attempted murders are just too much.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-21-2010, 18:03
Beefy lynch is awful, as were the votes on him yesterday and the attempt to murder him last night. Anyone who seems gleeful today is mafia.

ULC
06-21-2010, 18:12
Beefy lynch is awful, as were the votes on him yesterday and the attempt to murder him last night. Anyone who seems gleeful today is mafia.

I'm not so sure. Although I disagree with the lynch, Beefy's ability is a bit tit for tat - it buys a power role another night at best, but doesn't prove anything other then the mafia taking the role claim seriously. Still, why try to kill Beefy so early? Wasting game assets early is extremely bad play.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-21-2010, 18:15
I'm not so sure. Although I disagree with the lynch, Beefy's ability is a bit tit for tat - it buys a power role another night at best, but doesn't prove anything other then the mafia taking the role claim seriously.

Bodyguard is a standard role. It's a weak version of the doctor. It's useful for getting the cop one more night. I think we've had at least one game here where that would have clinched it for the town.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-21-2010, 18:31
I've already given my thoughts on the Beefy situation, but I'll ask once again so that I know it's a bad idea: why all the Beefy hate, comrades?

ULC
06-21-2010, 18:37
Bodyguard is a standard role. It's a weak version of the doctor. It's useful for getting the cop one more night. I think we've had at least one game here where that would have clinched it for the town.

Yes, true, although there is no reason the Doctor shouldn't already be protecting the role claim until the claimiant is properly investigated, which we have the capability of doing so in this game. I'm not arguing that Beefy was useless, rather just odd fluff - that didn't need to be squandered so early. Had Beefy been able to kill his attacker, then I'd be all pitchforks and torches on those who voted for him.

Winston Hughes
06-21-2010, 18:44
Looks like a great game. Sorry I wasn't able to make more of it before I got whacked. And thanks for the most excellent death write-up (more than I deserve after so meagre a contribution).


Winston was dreaming about a cat, a cat eating poop. The dream quickly degenerated into a nightmare, with the dream becoming more surreal, frightening and harder to understand

Oh dear. It seems I have acquired a reputation.


the poop eating cat was nothing compared to the terror he was now experiencing

:laugh4: Wait 'til you see what it pooped out...

Renata
06-21-2010, 19:28
Beefy lynch is awful, as were the votes on him yesterday and the attempt to murder him last night. Anyone who seems gleeful today is mafia.

No, it's not awful. Beefy made a claim yesterday to save his life. For better or for worse he offered to prove his claim; and for better or for worse our leadership took him up on the offer. He then failed to follow through.

It may have been a simple mistake. I'd go so far as to say it probably was a simple mistake, just on the odds alone. But I can't be sure. If Beefy is a reactionary or a Japanese imperialist, he could have had every reason in the world to buy himself just one more night. The KMT, for instance, recruited last night.

We've been promised no investigations in this game besides those that take several days to complete. If we don't lynch Beefy, then what? Risk yet another life tonight on the chance he follows through this time? Forget the whole idea and wait three days for investigation results to come back? Hope some killer takes him off our hands for us? We have to lynch him.

Subotan
06-21-2010, 19:29
Looks like a great game. Sorry I wasn't able to make more of it before I got whacked. And thanks for the most excellent death write-up (more than I deserve after so meagre a contribution).



Oh dear. It seems I have acquired a reputation.



:laugh4: Wait 'til you see what it pooped out...
I felt you deserved something like that, given the *ahem* special quality of your epic EPYCs, and also because you appear to have been whacked early on quite a lot recently.

EDIT: Phase ends in approximately 30 mins.

Renata
06-21-2010, 19:32
Yes, true, although there is no reason the Doctor shouldn't already be protecting the role claim until the claimiant is properly investigated, which we have the capability of doing so in this game. I'm not arguing that Beefy was useless, rather just odd fluff - that didn't need to be squandered so early. Had Beefy been able to kill his attacker, then I'd be all pitchforks and torches on those who voted for him.

Are you referring to today's voters or yesterday's? I think yesterday's may deserve pitchforks regardless.

Subotan
06-21-2010, 20:01
Write-Up shall commence in one hour.

Joooray
06-21-2010, 20:02
Man, I missed the voting phase again. Sorry about that, maybe it still counts. Vote: Beefy.

Sasaki Kojiro
06-21-2010, 20:03
No, it's not awful. Beefy made a claim yesterday to save his life. For better or for worse he offered to prove his claim; and for better or for worse our leadership took him up on the offer. He then failed to follow through.

For worse.




It may have been a simple mistake. I'd go so far as to say it probably was a simple mistake, just on the odds alone. But I can't be sure. If Beefy is a reactionary or a Japanese imperialist, he could have had every reason in the world to buy himself just one more night. The KMT, for instance, recruited last night.

He had every reason to claim something other than suicidal bodyguard.


We've been promised no investigations in this game besides those that take several days to complete. If we don't lynch Beefy, then what? Risk yet another life tonight on the chance he follows through this time? Forget the whole idea and wait three days for investigation results to come back? Hope some killer takes him off our hands for us? We have to lynch him.

Nope. Let him live. Have him protect people. Maybe he stops a mafia kill. Rethink it later when more of the setup is known.

Renata
06-21-2010, 20:17
I might have gone that way myself if it had been my decision to make, but it's too late now (speaking metaphorically, not about the day being over). He agreed to prove himself in this fashion; he didn't follow through.

As for claim -- meh. I claimed Bomb once, as mafia, and won. Not every mafia claim is well thought out, especially on day one; not every suicidal claim actually winds up in death; and not every suicidal player is bad for the team he's attached to. Unless you know what the KMT/Japanese roles and restrictions are, you don't know whether Beefy's move made sense or not

Subotan
06-21-2010, 21:16
By dinner time, the Communists had has ascended to a reasonable height, and were starting to enter real mountainous territory. They set up camp on a hillside, from which they could see for a great distance back from whence they had came. They could all see Daozhen in the distance, with a silky black line rising from the houses that been burned down by johnhughthom.

It was obvious who the lynch candidate was. Beefy187 had played chicken with the leadership of PEXDET, and a man had died because of it. The one dissenting vote was lodged out of habit more than anything else, and Beefy187 completely accepted his fate.

As the sleeping areas were being established, GeneralHankerchief and the other officers gave long speeches about why Beefy187 should engage in serious self-criticism due to his betrayal of the party, Communism and the Chinese Nation. Hearing this long tirade of crimes, Beefy said nothing; although his expression couldn’t have been uglier if he’d been chewing a wasp.

https://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6550/yumyumchinese.jpg

The Socialists gathered around the small hillock with their noodles to watch their Chairman draw the accusations to a close, and prepare for the execution of Beefy.

“…And thus, to summarise, your crimes are as follows. Failure to defend Communist, attacking Communist, failure to die defending Communist, speaking Japanese, conducting anti-people activities, spreading dissent and refusing to admit that you are a Rightist.” announced GeneralHankerchief

Beefy kept his head bowed and said nothing.

GeneralHankerchief turned to his Special Operative “Do you want to do the “honours”, Yaseikhaan?”

Yaseikhaan nodded, and drew his officer allocated Thompson Machine Gun out, and loaded it with a drum from inside his coat. He took aim at the silent Beefy, and fired off several rounds.

The Chairman sniffed and nodded again.

“That was for the best. But, fellow Communists, I urge you to be more careful tonight, as we still have no idea if any of our, erm, candidates are the Counter-Revolutionaries we claimed them to be. They may still walk, and kill, among us.”

This phase shall end in 23 hours, as 21:00 deadlines are a more Subotan-friendly time. I'll post the tally tomorrow.

Tally

Beefy187 - 25 - CDF, Cute Wolf, Romanic, Yaseikhaan, taka, Beefy187, ACIN, Pinman, Seamus, Jolt, Secura, Chaotix, Niklas, Renata, WEW, Blackadder, landlubber, AA, Psycho, miotas, YLC, John, autolycus, DIY, Joooray (I'll count Jooray as his vote made no difference to the outcome, and it serves more as a "I'm here" more than anything else)

Yaseikhaan - 1 - Shlin28

The Bad List - 6 - Thermal Mercury, AVSM, wishazu, splitpersonality, TheFlax, M3YUZ

The Bad List is a list of those who are consistently not voting in thread. Please change your behaviour, or face the consequences :sneaky:

Alive players: 36/40

ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC

Lynched players 1/40

Azathoth
Beefy187

Killed Players 2/40

Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro

Subotan
06-22-2010, 21:28
"Psst! Hey! Listen!“

"What? “ Beskar poked his head inside taka’s tent. He was clearly not amused.

“I need to use the toilet, really bad! I must have undercooked my noodles...” said taka. taka did a little jig to show just how desperate he was.

Beskar rolled his eyes. “Fine, I’ll guard you on your way there.”

taka gave a quiet cheer and scrambled out of the tent onto the side of the moonlit mountain.

Beskar peered into the gloom.

“Where is the designated Lavatory Pit? I don’t remember building one…”

“Look! There’s a sign there, it must be over here” said taka

They walked to a forested area of the outskirts of the camp, quite a bit further away than usual. The hole could be seen behind a tree, obstructed from the view of the tents. For privacy reasons, of course.

“At last!” cried taka, and he hurried over to the small hole to do whatever business you might do is such a designated Pit.

“Pssss….”

Beskar awkwardly turned to the side and focused his entire attention on a bush even deeper into the forest. Looking closer he realized that there was some kind of hair snagged on the bush. Thinking that it might be a delicious rabbit, Beskar eagerly approached.

“BOO!” roared the bush.

Beskar screamed.

“Agggh! What the-”

The bush rustled and revealed that there had been a man crouching behind it, and that the hair which had been snagged in the bush was his long and messy beard, which now had pieces of bush snagged in it.

“Why hello, Beskar” said the Hairy Man. “It is such a wonderful night to be taking care of…business, yes?”

The Hairy Man stood up and motioned towards taka, who was blissfully unaware of the Hairy Man’s business and happily going about his business.

“But what is my business, you must be asking? I’ll tell you what it is, Beskar. It is Chinese business. No, I’m not a Jap or a Kuomintang or anything silly like that, Beskar, so you can relax.”

Beskar didn’t relax.

“For you see, my business is a very special, niche business. My work helps everyone, regardless of class, dialect, whatever. But the funny thing is Beskar, hehe, is that the Chinese, hoohaha, don’t even know that I’m doing their business for them, hahaha! Isn’t that so funny Beskar? Isn’t it FUNNY?”

The Hairy Man was now bent over with laughter, with huge guffaws erupting from the bearded maelstrom that was his face. Beskar was now stricken with terror, and he ran backwards to where taka was still sitting on the Pit. taka had by now noticed the Hairy Man and looked concerned.

“Tsssssss….”

“How are you still doing that? Come on, we’ve got to get away from him now!”

“But I’ve finished. I’m not doing anything, Beskar…” taka said.

They both slowly looked inside the pit, where the hissing continued unabated and tiny sparks could be seen flitting around amongst the brown.

“taka, I think we need to-”

With a massive KA-BLOOEY, Beskar and taka were both instantly killed by the bomb which had been planted inside the pit dug by the Hairy Man. After the explosion’s echo finally dissipated and the remains of taka’s protection group ran over to see what remained of their charge, a booming laugh could be heard from within the forest.

***

“Good evening Chaotix.”

Chaotix woke up with a start to find a big, big man looming over his bedding, and staring him right in the eye.

“I’m here to make sure that you don’t do anything stupid during the night. You wouldn’t be planning on doing anything stupid, would you?”

Chaotix shook his head furiously.

“Good, I love understandings. They make everything so much easier. I trust you will also understand my colleague coming in here and rummaging around in your things and loads of books, yes?”

Chaotix nodded, again, furiously.

The intruder smiled and turned to the entry flap.

“Hey, you’re late.”

A second man entered and reached inside his long coat to take it off.

“I’m so sorry. Let me make it up to you”

Instantly, he pulled a pistol from inside his coat, and smashed into the side of the big man’s head. He went down with a sharp crack and a short croak. Chaotix pulled his bedding up around him fearfully.

The attacker smiled and stared down at Chaotix. He frowned slightly

“What was that you called me?”

“Huh? I don’t even know who you are so how-“ stammered Chaotix

The attacked put a finger to his lips “No, shh. You do know who I am. Because you lot called we something a few days ago. The “Wide Eyed Nippo”. That was it. The Wide Eyed Nippo. Hehe. How droll.”

Chaotix, not knowing what to do, just mumbled

“But”, continued the Japanese, “It’s not fair that I get all the compliments. And it would be rude of me to flatter someone with sweet-nothings that clearly aren’t true. So, I’m going to do you a favour, Chaotix. I’m going to make you Wide Eyed.”

The Japanese cocked his pistol and aimed it straight at Chaotix’s head

“I’m going to make you so Wide Eyed I’ll be able to fit my fist through your face!” snarled the Nippo, as Chaotix let out a terrified scream, moments before the Japanese Officer hollowed out Chaotix’s skull.

***

“Comrades, we were attacked again last night”

GeneralHankerchief stared out across the remaining Communists. They were starting to get few in number, and you could see their self awareness of this grim fact in their eyes.

“I know it’s hard, fellow Maoists, but we must struggle on. Only by continuing to fight can we beat the counter-revolutionaries. To disperse and give up allows them to pick us off, one by one. But together, we, the microcosm of the Chinese people, are strong enough united to fight off the Revisionists in grisly combat. And it is such unity that we must tighten!”

The Communists all nodded glumly, and set off, deeper into the mountains. The altitude was really starting to rise by this point, and snow could be seen further up the mountain trail.

Alive players: 33/40

ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Captain Blackadder
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC

Lynched players 2/40

Azathoth
Beefy187

Killed Players 5/40

Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro
taka
Beskar
Chaotix

Beskar
06-22-2010, 21:42
Kill Johnhughthom, he was the one with the fire bombs from the previous night.

big FOS at CDF, Double A and Psychonaut for failing in their protection orders.

shlin28
06-22-2010, 21:42
Hmm... if we are a microcosm of society, then the unholy quartet who twist the words of our glorious elected leader must be representing the landlords!

DIE!!!

Vote: autolycus

Regarding the write-up, the first killer could be the 'crazy' killer from last night phase (having 2 different serial killers would be unlikely methinks), whilst the second is obviously Japanese. The KMT group either lost someone (beefy), or is in hiding/using an undetectable ability. This write-up doesn't tell us much, so it would be better to use voting records from last day phase, which er, would not be that productive either, thanks to the uber-bandwagon.

johnhughthom
06-22-2010, 21:45
Kill Johnhughthom

:inquisitive:


Johnhughthom, as he is the one with bombs from previous night,

Actually that is decent reasoning, except for the fact I had petrol bombs.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-22-2010, 21:47
Vote: AVSM

What is this super market you speak of? Bah, I denounce this market as a hive for the wretched capitalists to take shelter in! We must obliterate it, and continue on our journey to proletariat justice!

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-22-2010, 21:49
Vote: AVSM

What is this super market you speak of? Bah, I denounce this market as a hive for the wretched capitalists to take shelter in! We must obliterate it, and continue on our journey to proletariat justice!

You saw him eating a spicy meatball?

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-22-2010, 21:53
You saw him eating a spicy meatball?

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Huh?

Beskar
06-22-2010, 21:54
You saw him eating a spicy meatball?

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

So why did you fail in your protection orders, CDF?

I like how you skipped that and gave a nonsense reply to something else.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-22-2010, 21:54
So why did you fail in your protection orders, CDF?

I didn't. Mine were in right beside yours beskar.

Beskar
06-22-2010, 21:56
I didn't. Mine were in right beside yours beskar.

If you didn't fail, then why weren't you in the write-up and why are me and taka dead?

So you obviously failed somewhere.

Secura
06-22-2010, 21:56
I didn't. Mine were in right beside yours beskar.

How come Beskar was picked off from the rest of you then?

It seems like taka was attacked and Beskar died as the only person keeping an eye on him.

johnhughthom
06-22-2010, 21:59
After the explosion’s echo finally dissipated and the remains of taka’s protection group ran over to see what remained of their charge


Perhaps everybody did send their orders.

Beskar
06-22-2010, 22:00
Last edited by Subotan; Today at 21:46.

Thanks for the heads-up about any future readers going to think I look stupid. :tongue:

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-22-2010, 22:00
How come Beskar was picked off from the rest of you then?

It seems like taka was attacked and Beskar died as the only person keeping an eye on him.

*shrug* I have no idea how it happened. I sent in orders, thats all I know. The rest of the group was mentioned slightly. Its possible Beskar just got unlucky in a dice roll for whether the protection hurt him, or maybe its one of the SK's ability. I honestly don't know.

Beskar
06-22-2010, 22:02
Anyway, kill Johnhughthom, he is the one with bombs and hasn't accounted for these yet.

Subotan
06-22-2010, 22:02
Thanks for the heads-up about any future readers going to think I look stupid. :tongue:
Heh, that was just to add the list of the dead and alive players.

Secura
06-22-2010, 22:06
Hmm... if we are a microcosm of society, then the unholy quartet who twist the words of our glorious elected leader must be representing the landlords!

DIE!!!

Vote: autolycus

What are you trying to pull, shlin? Each day thus far, you've voted for one of our Chairman's appointed officers... for what reason and to what end do you maintain this stance? It stands out from a mile off as scummy and deliberately WIFOM-laden.

vote: shlin28

naut
06-22-2010, 22:07
How come Beskar was picked off from the rest of you then?

It seems like taka was attacked and Beskar died as the only person keeping an eye on him.
Lol x 100. My orders were sent, on time and correct. I think it is due to the way Double A worded his PM:


protect: taka with mentioned.
He used mentioned as reference to the PM receivers, instead of stating their names.

But, then again a protection group works with 3 members, anymore is back-up, so perhaps the killer bypasses protection? A bomb can't reall be protected against can it? My guess is the random.org gods picked Beskar to die.

And we should vote Sigurd. Gut says so, so it must be done.

vote: Sigurd

Double A
06-22-2010, 22:15
Lol x 100. My orders were sent, on time and correct. I think it is due to the way Double A worded his PM:


He used mentioned as reference to the PM receivers, instead of stating their names.

But, then again a protection group works with 3 members, anymore is back-up, so perhaps the killer bypasses protection? A bomb can't reall be protected against can it? My guess is the random.org gods picked Beskar to die.

And we should vote Sigurd. Gut says so, so it must be done.

vote: Sigurd

I REALLY don't think Subo would take my orders that literal. I mean... really? Who would? You'd have to be a robot to take them that literal.

johnhughthom
06-22-2010, 22:17
The rules state you need to specifically mention each person in the group Double A.

Subotan
06-22-2010, 22:19
You'd have to be a robot to take them that literal.

My sister listens to this, which is the only reason why I know this song. Also the glitter freaks me out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_oMD6-6q5Y)

miotas
06-22-2010, 22:22
So... Wideyedwander is Japanese?

Double A
06-22-2010, 22:22
I can't even think of a reply to that.

Romanic
06-22-2010, 22:40
Vote: AVSM

What is this super market you speak of? Bah, I denounce this market as a hive for the wretched capitalists to take shelter in! We must obliterate it, and continue on our journey to proletariat justice!

A vote for AVSM is a bad vote. He hasn't posted in this game and will likely be on Subotan's Bad List soon (whatever that means). I'm expecting a replacement or a WOG, so why would we waste a lynch on him?

I suggest you reconsider.



What are you trying to pull, shlin? Each day thus far, you've voted for one of our Chairman's appointed officers... for what reason and to what end do you maintain this stance? It stands out from a mile off as scummy and deliberately WIFOM-laden.

vote: shlin28

Agreed. What's your point shlin? You're the only one who didn't vote for Beefy on the last round. Here's your votes so far:

Day 2: ACIN
Day 3: khaan
Day 4: autolycus

Day 5-6: Seamus and possibly GH.

Predetermined targets, nice and convenient. Then what? Are you going to start the loop again? Are you hoping his behavior won't be suspicious?

Doesn't work like that. vote: shlin28

GeneralHankerchief
06-22-2010, 23:16
Gah, this round hurt.

Beskar
06-22-2010, 23:28
Lol x 100. My orders were sent, on time and correct. I think it is due to the way Double A worded his PM:

A shame he didn't die instead then.

Double A
06-22-2010, 23:34
So Subo, were my orders valid or not?

Cause if they were, I don't know WHAT went wrong, maybe the killer is super awesome. If they weren't, either the killer is good, or there's an infiltrator in the group. There could have been two if mine were good, but that's highly unlikely.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 00:11
I agree with Psychonaut, the attack on Beskar/taka means that the killer is able to kill through protection, and also kill one of the guardians on the way. This ability must have a limited number of uses otherwise it would be too powerful (and would also render comrade protection pointless).

If we agree with the above, then it means the killer knew that Beskar would be protected. I don't see him wasting his ability unless he was sure to go through protection and get two kills from it.

I heard whispers that Beskar was not a vanilla townie, and that's reason enough to attack him. This info circulating around, plus GH telling a lot of people who would be protected means that Beskar was a very nice target to someone able to kill 2 while going through protection.

So far I'm not happy with the GH administration, it seems that information is circulating around too much. It's time to limit the chit-chat to a need-to-know basis.

johnhughthom
06-23-2010, 00:14
taka was attacked, Beskar was part of the protection group.

Chaotix
06-23-2010, 00:25
Should've had me protecting taka again, like I did the night before.

I would've done the job right!

....now we're both dead. Sucks. I wanted to lead the communists to victory.

EDIT: Also, lol to dumb ACIN who must've roleblocked me for wanting to be his assistant.

GeneralHankerchief
06-23-2010, 00:29
I heard whispers that Beskar was not a vanilla townie, and that's reason enough to attack him. This info circulating around, plus GH telling a lot of people who would be protected means that Beskar was a very nice target to someone able to kill 2 while going through protection.

So far I'm not happy with the GH administration, it seems that information is circulating around too much. It's time to limit the chit-chat to a need-to-know basis.

Okay, even *I* wasn't aware of Beskar being anything aside from townie. Him being not vanilla is news to me. I guess this leads into my second point - that since the first night, I've been keeping people I'm in communication with to a small number. I'm not ATPG people, I'm trying to figure out this whole "run a network" thing on the fly while still staying true to my beliefs about them. Right now it doesn't seem to be working, but I think we *are* making progress.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 00:38
taka was attacked, Beskar was part of the protection group.

Meh. Then Beskar wasn't the target, so my theory about the killer knowing he was more than vanilla is void.

Pinman
06-23-2010, 00:39
I just noticed that the person who killed Winston claims that he even shaved off his facial hair - a reference to last night's SK?

Furthermore, I'm going to Vote: johnhughthom simply because I'm intrigued by the line in the second night's writeup which references vengeance.
Vengence for what?

miotas
06-23-2010, 01:32
Vote: wideyedwanderer

taka
06-23-2010, 01:51
Super big fos: sigurd
fos: a.this, Jolt and maybe renata

Not sure how much the dead can say so I will leave it at that

landlubber
06-23-2010, 02:05
vote: shlin28.
I don't see any reason for him to vote for the officers. Seems like he's almost acting scummy on purpose.

seireikhaan
06-23-2010, 02:36
Vote: Sigurd Taka approves of it, and that's the best lead I've got at the moment.

autolycus
06-23-2010, 02:51
It is possible that either the Imperialists or the Capitalists have taken casualties due to the crazy man's wrongful actions. While shlin28's repeated targeting of the leadership is irritating, the fact is we have not served our comrades all that well. I am curious about this alleged mention of explosives in connection with comrade johnhughthom.
Vote:johnhughthom

Romanic
06-23-2010, 03:35
What's up with the votes for comrade Sigurd? He hasn't voted on Day 2 and Day 3.

In fact his last post was June 17.

He does not strike me as a big suspect.

@taka: Why a "super big fos" ?

@khaan: Your best lead. Would you care to elaborate?

Pinman
06-23-2010, 03:42
taka noted that he isn't sure he can elaborate.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 04:01
Depends what information taka has. Dead people are allowed to talk with certain restrictions. Here's the rules from the signup thread:


https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128503-A-Bridge-Zhou-Far-Three-Stars-Rising-SIGN-UPS

*****

On the dead, and other circumstances


https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/kagemusha/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Seamus, via GH

The dead may post, but not vote/select nor carry out any night actions. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately and may not reveal their faction or role particulars either. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player. Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal. Your participation must be circumspect, but your continued participation IS encouraged.

No screenshots may be used, from or to anyone, for ANY purpose – this includes during PMs. Feel free to quote from my Role PM’s to you or to fabricate as you see fit. Chatlog conversations may be referenced/quoted, but may not be copied via screenshot. Note: it can be difficult to maintain role secrecy during chat conversations.

"Suicide" will not be allowed in this game (it is possible to create an unplayable game with nothing but suicide pact challenges going on. This is not the intended mode of play for this game).
Players who must remove themselves from play for schedule reasons should send me a PM. I will then write them out of play.<o:p>
</o:p>

johnhughthom
06-23-2010, 04:40
I am curious about this alleged mention of explosives in connection with comrade johnhughthom.

Perhaps reading the write ups more closely will sate your curiosity, I threw petrol bombs. Very different from the device that killed taka and Beskar.

Pinman
06-23-2010, 04:59
If you explain the reference to revenge i`ll remove my vote.

Either:

- An explanation in the context of the writeup, pointing out something I missed or
- an explanation as to how such revenge plays into your backstory

Tbh, I`m wondering if you arent the hairy serial killer - and not only because of the reference to bombs.

If you look at the post where Winston was killed, you see that the killer is looking to revenge himself on a hairy man. Then, we see that you are worried about revenge.

Finally, last night, we see a hairy SK.

Explain.

a completely inoffensive name
06-23-2010, 06:43
EDIT: Also, lol to dumb ACIN who must've roleblocked me for wanting to be his assistant.

I didn't role block you for wanting to be my assistant. It wasn't my choice to role block you to begin with. All I did this night was attempt to investigate you, to make sure you were not KMT or Japanese so I could hire you as my deputy I could trust. You dying pisses me off. I'm going to suggest we do this like a real Communist leader. I'm going to make a list of people who are arguing back and forth over who is the leak etc... and I'm going to suggest killing you all.

taka
06-23-2010, 07:36
I think it slightly infringe on the rules so I won't risk posting. however I'll say that I was contacted by sigurd with a particular aim but I wasn't cooperating and there's a big chance he killed me off for it.

So that is why I super big fos sigurd

Jolt and a.this also knows about this so they could have acted as well

Niklas
06-23-2010, 10:38
Sigurd should speak up against the accusations. vote: Sigurd

Azathoth
06-23-2010, 11:28
I didn't role block you for wanting to be my assistant. It wasn't my choice to role block you to begin with. All I did this night was attempt to investigate you, to make sure you were not KMT or Japanese so I could hire you as my deputy I could trust. You dying pisses me off. I'm going to suggest we do this like a real Communist leader. I'm going to make a list of people who are arguing back and forth over who is the leak etc... and I'm going to suggest killing you all.

Well, this writeup was very...thought-provoking. It raises several new questions, but does not preclude certain possibilities either.


Vote: AVSM

What is this super market you speak of? Bah, I denounce this market as a hive for the wretched capitalists to take shelter in! We must obliterate it, and continue on our journey to proletariat justice!

His last login was June 14.

ULC
06-23-2010, 11:55
Vote: AVSM

What is this super market you speak of? Bah, I denounce this market as a hive for the wretched capitalists to take shelter in! We must obliterate it, and continue on our journey to proletariat justice!

Third round, and your pulling this? FoS all over you. That's ridiculous and not what a true soldier should be doing or would be doing at this point.


So... Wideyedwander is Japanese?

Yet another one trying such a tactic - HOW are these people escaping suspicion?


Gah, this round hurt.

Such empty responses from our Dear Leader. I've seen more affirmative action from half-dead slugs.


You saw him eating a spicy meatball?

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Useless vote, aviods Beskar, escapes from persecution due to the failure of taka's protection. REALLY NO ONE ELSE SEES THIS? Are we handing out get out of free suspicion passes that I'm not aware of? Have we decided to ditch leads in thread as a whole through a secret ballot? Is everything now subject to the whims of 5 people and we are all to aimlessly follow the bandwagon?


Sigurd should speak up against the accusations. vote: Sigurd

You should be less inactive, Comrade Niklas. I care not of your complaints, I expect better.

Jolt
06-23-2010, 12:07
Jolt and a.this also knows about this so they could have acted as well

I know what about what?

Niklas
06-23-2010, 12:09
You should be less inactive, Comrade Niklas. I care not of your complaints, I expect better.
Why? I did not hear me complain, only point out the obvious.

ULC
06-23-2010, 12:43
Why? I did not hear me complain, only point out the obvious.

Is that all your skills ential, pointing out the obvious? Or did the obvious already evade you? Your vote reeks and you know it, yet do not care. Suspects go unquestioned, but you do not bother to glance in their direction.

miotas
06-23-2010, 13:27
Yet another one trying such a tactic - HOW are these people escaping suspicion?

So I'm suspicious for thinking wideyedwanderer is Japanese?



The attacked put a finger to his lips “No, shh. You do know who I am. Because you lot called we something a few days ago. The “Wide Eyed Nippo”. That was it. The Wide Eyed Nippo. Hehe. How droll.”

Chaotix, not knowing what to do, just mumbled

“But”, continued the Japanese

Sigurd
06-23-2010, 14:01
Super big fos: sigurd
fos: a.this, Jolt and maybe renata

Not sure how much the dead can say so I will leave it at that


Vote: Sigurd Taka approves of it, and that's the best lead I've got at the moment.

I believe taka brought this on himself.

What taka is refering to is probably my correspondance with him last round regarding the group both of us was assigned to by our Chairman.
GH put me in a group with taka, Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS in the first round. In communications with GH, I learned that he would try to keep original groups together to form cliques and I took it upon myself to continue my correspondence with them.

I noticed something taka mentioned in the thread and asked him about it. Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS can confirm as they were both CC'ed in the same PM.
taka first responded with reproach (PM#1) and then excused himself (PM#2) that he would probably not be able to participate due to RL and then claimed he was already busy doing GH's bidding on other fronts (PM#3)

GH said he would contact us if he needed us, but I have been left picking my nose the last two nights.
The thing I asked taka about was quite obvious for all to read, and I am sure others noticed it too. If not, I at least pointed it out to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. AT and taka at least showed the curtisy of replying.
All of them read my PM (ref. PM tracking).

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-23-2010, 14:26
I believe taka brought this on himself.

What taka is refering to is probably my correspondance with him last round regarding the group both of us was assigned to by our Chairman.
GH put me in a group with taka, Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS in the first round. In communications with GH, I learned that he would try to keep original groups together to form cliques and I took it upon myself to continue my correspondence with them.

I noticed something taka mentioned in the thread and asked him about it. Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS can confirm as they were both CC'ed in the same PM.
taka first responded with reproach (PM#1) and then excused himself (PM#2) that he would probably not be able to participate due to RL and then claimed he was already busy doing GH's bidding on other fronts (PM#3)

GH said he would contact us if he needed us, but I have been left picking my nose the last two nights.
The thing I asked taka about was quite obvious for all to read, and I am sure others noticed it too. If not, I at least pointed it out to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. AT and taka at least showed the curtisy of replying.
All of them read my PM (ref. PM tracking).

I both confirm and agree with what Sigurd is saying.

Captain Blackadder
06-23-2010, 14:37
vote wideyedwanderer

That mention in the report of our fallen comrade seems very suspicious to me.

Jolt
06-23-2010, 15:14
I believe taka brought this on himself.

What taka is refering to is probably my correspondance with him last round regarding the group both of us was assigned to by our Chairman.
GH put me in a group with taka, Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS in the first round. In communications with GH, I learned that he would try to keep original groups together to form cliques and I took it upon myself to continue my correspondence with them.

I noticed something taka mentioned in the thread and asked him about it. Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS can confirm as they were both CC'ed in the same PM.
taka first responded with reproach (PM#1) and then excused himself (PM#2) that he would probably not be able to participate due to RL and then claimed he was already busy doing GH's bidding on other fronts (PM#3)

GH said he would contact us if he needed us, but I have been left picking my nose the last two nights.
The thing I asked taka about was quite obvious for all to read, and I am sure others noticed it too. If not, I at least pointed it out to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. AT and taka at least showed the curtisy of replying.
All of them read my PM (ref. PM tracking).

I can also confirm all Sigurd has said. I did not reply simply because the PM had nothing/little addressed to me. My only reference there was that of all of us, I was the only one who CC'd the orders (And too late as well, if you didn't notice.) Then you went on to ask taka about something being watched. Since there was nothing to me to reply to, and I am busy with exams as usual, I didn't reply to anything.

Likewise Sigurd, I have sat on my butt the last two nights.

Jolt
06-23-2010, 15:15
Vote: Abstain

Subotan
06-23-2010, 15:20
Vote: Abstain

Abstains are not allowed.

Cute Wolf
06-23-2010, 15:41
vote : Johnhughthom
looks like petrol bomb mania could as easily hide and handle some high explosives too

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-23-2010, 15:48
Likewise Sigurd, I have sat on my butt the last two nights.

Indeed, so have I. Last night I even posted a request for orders, but nothing happened. Perhaps we should choose our own defence target? I'm open to discussion.

Seamus Fermanagh
06-23-2010, 16:40
This most recent attack confirms that the Japanese are active and killing (Chaotix).

The Solokiller (bearded) blew up both taka and Beskar -- suggesting a powerful attack ability. It cannot be assumed yet, however, that this solokiller is anti communism. (probably the way to bet, but a touch early)

Interesting votes so far. jht and sig coming under fire. Hmmmm....

TheFlax
06-23-2010, 16:40
Vote: YLC

Lots of criticism and hot air. If you think we are all so inept why aren't you pushing for a suspect or voting at least? For that matter, pointing out several posts as suspect and not voting?

Romanic
06-23-2010, 17:05
Unofficial tally:

3 johnhughthom (autolycus, Cute Wolf, Pinman)
3 shlin (landlubber, Romanic, Secura)
3 Sigurd (Niklas, Psychonaut, Yaseikhaan)
2 wideyedwanderer (Captain Blackadder, miotas)
1 ArpegiateTHIS (CDF)
1 autolycus (shlin)
1 AVSM (ArpTHIS)
1 YLC (TheFlax)
******
18 Not voting (everyone else, except GH)
1 Chairman

johnhughthom
06-23-2010, 17:10
vote : Johnhughthom
looks like petrol bomb mania could as easily hide and handle some high explosives too

Yeah sticking a piece of cloth in a bottle is really akin to the electronics required in most bomb making. :inquisitive:

If you really want to vote for me at least find a decent reason. Pinman had sound reasoning, wrong, but at least it was thought through, this bomb stuff is pathetic.

Azathoth
06-23-2010, 17:21
Unofficial tally:

3 johnhughthom (autolycus, Cute Wolf, Pinman)
3 shlin (landlubber, Romanic, Secura)
3 Sigurd (Niklas, Psychonaut, Yaseikhaan)
2 wideyedwanderer (Captain Blackadder, miotas)
1 ArpegiateTHIS (CDF)
1 autolycus (shlin)
1 AVSM (ArpTHIS)
1 YLC (TheFlax)
******
22 Not voting (everyone else, except GH)

There are 33 people left.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 17:26
There are 33 people left.

There's 34 left, but yeah, 22 is wrong in that tally.:yes:

ULC
06-23-2010, 17:56
So I'm suspicious for thinking wideyedwanderer is Japanese?

Yes, yes you are. You honestly think the host would sell out a mafioso so easily and so obviously? More then likely, the capitalists wrote that into the write-up, for others to pick up on.

You however, are the only one - so your either a capitalist or incompentent in my book, but NOT my primary focus of attention this round.


I believe taka brought this on himself.

What taka is refering to is probably my correspondance with him last round regarding the group both of us was assigned to by our Chairman.
GH put me in a group with taka, Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS in the first round. In communications with GH, I learned that he would try to keep original groups together to form cliques and I took it upon myself to continue my correspondence with them.

I noticed something taka mentioned in the thread and asked him about it. Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS can confirm as they were both CC'ed in the same PM.
taka first responded with reproach (PM#1) and then excused himself (PM#2) that he would probably not be able to participate due to RL and then claimed he was already busy doing GH's bidding on other fronts (PM#3)

GH said he would contact us if he needed us, but I have been left picking my nose the last two nights.
The thing I asked taka about was quite obvious for all to read, and I am sure others noticed it too. If not, I at least pointed it out to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. AT and taka at least showed the curtisy of replying.
All of them read my PM (ref. PM tracking).

If true then - Vote: ApregiateTHIS, FoS:CDF


Vote: YLC

Lots of criticism and hot air. If you think we are all so inept why aren't you pushing for a suspect or voting at least? For that matter, pointing out several posts as suspect and not voting?

But the round is yet young, and I am a definitive man, not want to replace my vote much. I am sure you understand.

Azathoth
06-23-2010, 18:07
Alive players: 33/40

Romanic, you have to trust me.

wideyedwanderer
06-23-2010, 18:12
Vote: schlin, for as Secura and landlubber have pointed out, he has repeatedly voted for officers, and has yet to explain his reasoning.

As for people voting for me because of the unhappy coincidence that Subotan used the term Wide Eyed in his write up, this is a misguided effort. If I were mafia, why would Subotan deliberately reveal me? Kind of defeats the point of the game.

EDIT: ^ YLC got to it before me.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 18:16
Romanic, you have to trust me.

There's 34 alive. Count the names in that list on the last writeup. 33/40 is wrong. :smug2:

(We started with 41 players).

TheFlax
06-23-2010, 18:28
But the round is yet young, and I am a definitive man, not want to replace my vote much. I am sure you understand.

I do understand. Can you elaborate on your vote for ArpeggiateTHIS? Perhaps I am daft, I cannot see the reasoning behind this.

Unvote: YLC

Azathoth
06-23-2010, 18:33
There's 34 alive. Count the names in that list on the last writeup. 33/40 is wrong. :smug2:

(We started with 41 players).

Subotan! :furious3:

ULC
06-23-2010, 18:41
I do understand. Can you elaborate on your vote for ArpeggiateTHIS? Perhaps I am daft, I cannot see the reasoning behind this.

Unvote: YLC

Arpeggiate started the round off with a complete nonsense vote, despite both AVSM a known constant noshow and the fact that he, Arp, was involved with taka. Instead of coming forth like Sigurd did, he had to be dragged into the limelight, most likely hoping it would remain unspoken. Second, taka was the target, not Beskar, for the night kill, and taka, from what I am seeing, implied both a possible role and working heavily with GH.

This is a better lead then anything else out on the table, and I am following it.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-23-2010, 18:45
Arpeggiate started the round off with a complete nonsense vote, despite both AVSM a known constant noshow and the fact that he, Arp, was involved with taka. Instead of coming forth like Sigurd did, he had to be dragged into the limelight, most likely hoping it would remain unspoken. Second, taka was the target, not Beskar, for the night kill, and taka, from what I am seeing, implied both a possible role and working heavily with GH.

This is a better lead then anything else out on the table, and I am following it.

Yeah, He voted for no reason, Meatballing. Does anyone read the glossary anymore? (I do. A lot. Man am I bored.) So I voted for him and commented that he was meatballing.

ULC
06-23-2010, 18:54
Yeah, He voted for no reason, Meatballing. Does anyone read the glossary anymore? (I do. A lot. Man am I bored.) So I voted for him and commented that he was meatballing.

Why, why CDF, art thou trying to protect him?

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-23-2010, 18:57
Why, why CDF, art thou trying to protect him?

lol what?

Who am I protecting?

ULC
06-23-2010, 19:05
lol what?

Who am I protecting?

I'm sorry, but your response looked like you were protecting him, saying "Yeah, he did this, so what?".

TheFlax
06-23-2010, 19:25
Had forgotten about ArpeggiateTHIS voting for AVSM, interesting.

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

As for CDF, he was in fact condemning ArpeggiateTHIS' vote and not defending him. Seemed pretty clear to me.

GeneralHankerchief
06-23-2010, 19:30
@Sigurd and group, by all means, start protecting on your own. Don't wait for me to assign you a target.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-23-2010, 19:38
I'm sorry, but your response looked like you were protecting him, saying "Yeah, he did this, so what?".

Actually I was pointing out I had already stated the exact same thing you had early in the phase. :tongue: but I did it in a strange way that no one understood. I wouldn't have voted for him if I thought he wasn't scummy.

GeneralHankerchief
06-23-2010, 19:40
johnhughthom, please disclose your role particulars and an up-to-date list of your nighttime activities. Thanks.

Subotan
06-23-2010, 20:09
Subotan! :furious3:
:shame:

Write up will commence shortly.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-23-2010, 20:19
Had forgotten about ArpeggiateTHIS voting for AVSM, interesting.

Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

As for CDF, he was in fact condemning ArpeggiateTHIS' vote and not defending him. Seemed pretty clear to me.

I only voted AVSM because he's on Subo's naughty list. I saw the naughty list and picked the most inappropriate communist name. Either way, I can't see how any other players can justify their leads, so my vote stands.

Nor do I see the point about protection orders. I was inactive (watching the England match) on the first night, so didn't send orders. On the second night, I didn't receive instructions. I'm not the only one, so why persecute me?

Lynch me if you want, but you're totally wrong about this, comrades.


EDIT: What is meatballing?

seireikhaan
06-23-2010, 20:31
Unvote: Sigurd

Vote: Johnhughthom

Think of it as positive reinforcement for posting your stuff.

Sigurd
06-23-2010, 20:41
:shame:

Write up will commence shortly.
When is/was the deadline?

Jolt
06-23-2010, 20:44
Vote: Jolt

As alternative to abstain, as I have no clue who may or may not be guilty.

Sigurd
06-23-2010, 21:22
johnhugh is a bomber, but uses molotov cocktails instead of explosives. Who will be his victim(s)?

vote:johnhughthom

Subotan
06-23-2010, 21:34
As the People’s Extraordinary Detachment ascended into the cold, snowy mountains, the debate between the Socialists became quite heated. Confusion arose as the nature of the explosion last night. Had one of the defenders betrayed taka? Was the Hairy Man some sort of serial killer? Was he even a –perish the thought - a Trotskyite? None could say for certain, and this was probably the main reason why none of those accused of being involved in the blast were eventually chosen to be executed by the evening. Instead, the Maoists picked Shlin28, who had a reputation of insubordination and challenging authority. By the time the Communists drew to a halt, Shlin28 had just edged out in front of the other candidates.

“I am to be to lynched for this? For manning the barricades against the encroachment of tyranny and despotism? I am a hero of the people, a lone guardian standing up for what I believe in, true Communism, a Communism without states or generals!” declared Shlin28, raising his voice above the howling winds and screaming blizzard

GeneralHankerchief in turn levelled a finger at the accused “Silence! Since when has undermining the leadership of the Party been “true Communism”? Such words are the words of a mole, burrowing away at the foundations of our Revolution.”

Shlin28 pointed back “A mole? Ha! That is rich coming from someone who has imposed tyranny over our Worker’s Brigade. If I am a mole, then it is only to undermine and destroy dictatorship and autocracy.”

GeneralHankerchief’s face turned red in the fierce cold as he shouted back at Shlin and the watching Proletariat “Only through decisive courage and leadership can we strive towards our worker’s paradise and secure our brilliant Socialist dawn. You, Shlin28, are a Revisionist, twisting and bending the true words of the party into the speech of a snake. The People have chosen you to be executed, and executed you shall be!”

He jabbed in the direction of Shlin28, and Yaseikhaan appeared at the Chairmans side. Yaseikhaan whipped his sword out his sheath, and held it behind him, with his arm fully extended. The Special Operative then pushed off his back leg and leaped forward towards the gaping Shlin. In midair, Yaesikhaan whirled his sword out from behind him and swung it around to connect with Shlin’s waist as Yaesikhaan touched the ground. The blade then ripped through Shlin’s torso, tearing a pathway through to his opposite shoulder and severing Shlin in half. Shlin’s halves fell backwards, and Yaesikhaan booted them off the mountain edge with a mighty kick, and Shlin28 sailed off the edge, leaving a red pathway all the way down the snowy cliff face. The Communists looked on with a mixture of horror and disgust, and even the Chairman appeared a bit white. The Special Operative replied with only a glare as he wiped his sword and face clean.

“Well, as well as that, I have a few other announcements to make. It appears that a clique has formed, the Fengxi Clique, which consists of The Flax, Romanic and Renata. This means that in the event of a tie, they along with the other Officers will be able to vote to decide the fate of a candidate (And some other examples which have yet to become clear…. - Subotan). So congratulations to the new political force!”

The Communists politely clapped, and the Fengxi Clique cheered.

This round shall last until 20:00 GMT+1, which is now the deadline time for all phases (I mentioned this in another write-up)

Unofficial tally:

4 shlin (landlubber, Romanic, Secura, WEW)
3 johnhughthom (autolycus, Cute Wolf, Pinman)
3 Sigurd (Niklas, Psychonaut, Yaseikhaan)
2 wideyedwanderer (Captain Blackadder, miotas)
2 ArpegiateTHIS (CDF, TheFlax)
1 autolycus (shlin)
1 AVSM (ArpTHIS)
1 YLC (YLC)

Jolt showed up in the end, so he won't be counted as being on the bad list. Yaseikhaan missed the deadline though.

******
13 Not voting ( everyone else, except GH) -

ACIN
AVSM
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
Joooray
M3YUZ
Nictel
Seamus
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Thermal Mercury
Wishazu

The bold represents the Bad List. If anyone on the bad list misses the next lynch, they will be WOG'd, hard. On a lighter note, TheFlax is off the Bad List!

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-23-2010, 22:08
^ See what I'm referring to? I picked my lynch vote from the naughty list. Perhaps next round I'll bandwagon with the rest of you, I'll be better off.

Case closed.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 22:37
@Subotan: What's up with Methos, is he still in this game? With 0 post so far he should make the Bad list easily.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-23-2010, 22:40
@Subotan: What's up with Methos, is he still in this game? With 0 post so far he should make the Bad list easily.

Methos hasn't been active in a mafia game in quite a while, that's why I axed him in Beefdom. Can't imagine how he managed to sign up, actually!

Subotan
06-23-2010, 22:45
M3YUZ replaced Methos.

Romanic
06-23-2010, 23:02
Methos is still showing in your list of players Subotan. That explains why I thought we had 34 players alive.

It's alarming to see that the Fengxi clique was the only one able to form after three days. What are you doing comrades? :sad:

Death is yonder
06-24-2010, 04:30
Apologies for not voting Subo, participating in a 12 hours torturous event for 3 days in a row takes its toll. Especially when rounds end at roughly 5am my time and bed is more enviable than computer when your body is sore. :embarassed:

On the subject of cliques, I find it curious that they are announced it public :thinking:

On johnhughthom, I doubt that Comrade Subo would give his identity away so easily. Give the man a break, he used a molotov to defend himself, do you think Subo would hand a rightist on a plate to us by depicting a man using explosives to kill our comrades?

Azathoth
06-24-2010, 05:08
Maybe that's just what Subotan wants you to think.

naut
06-24-2010, 05:51
That was a terrible lynch choice. ArpeggiateTHIS and Sigurd both should go. ArpeggiateTHIS for his deliberate choosing of WoGbait and Sigurd for tweaking my gut. Lynch them both I say!

(Subo, Cute Wolf voted so shouldn't be on the Naughty List).

A Very Super Market
06-24-2010, 06:45
I agree, Arp...THIS should go for voting WOGbait like me. Hopefully, he will learn to not, along with the rest of you.

Azathoth
06-24-2010, 06:54
You sneaky monkey.

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-24-2010, 09:32
That's the best lead you've got? Let's choose the guy who voted for WoGbait?

You guys are pathetic communists, go catch some real capitalists.


EDIT: I should have bandwagoned and I'm sorry. Next time I'll throw initiative into the pit and become a mindless comrade, just please forgive me guys. :bigcry:

a completely inoffensive name
06-24-2010, 09:32
I agree, Arp...THIS should go for voting WOGbait like me. Hopefully, he will learn to not, along with the rest of you.

You are still in this game? Want to be my deputy?

GeneralHankerchief
06-24-2010, 11:33
I need one more person for a protection group. If you're interested, please PM me within the next 20 minutes.

-edit- Got one, thanks.

Sigurd
06-24-2010, 12:05
That was a terrible lynch choice. ArpeggiateTHIS and Sigurd both should go. ArpeggiateTHIS for his deliberate choosing of WoGbait and Sigurd for tweaking my gut. Lynch them both I say!

(Subo, Cute Wolf voted so shouldn't be on the Naughty List).
I tweak your gut? You gotta give me more. What is it about my behaviour that makes me scummy?
You need to consider that it was GH who put us in a group together. You seem to insinuate that we are loyalists, which would be the only possible scenario for us both being scum.

I think you are trying to deflect your role in the taka/Beskar murder.
Why were Beskar narrated and not the others?
Why didn't you make Double A resend his orders correctly?

naut
06-24-2010, 14:52
I tweak your gut? You gotta give me more. What is it about my behaviour that makes me scummy?
You need to consider that it was GH who put us in a group together. You seem to insinuate that we are loyalists, which would be the only possible scenario for us both being scum.
You've been active behind the scenes, but completely inactive in thread until this round. Thus. You tweak my gut.


I think you are trying to deflect your role in the taka/Beskar murder.
Why were Beskar narrated and not the others?
Why didn't you make Double A resend his orders correctly?
:laugh4:

As a petty comrade protecting his comrades I take offence. I dunno what you mean by Beskie narrated? Explain please? Double A's orders were irrelevant, a group works with 3 anyway. And Subo confirmed it had no affect. You are insinuating I killed taka? Please explain how this would be possible? I fail to see how I would have managed to do so. :stupido3:

Why was it that you had been active behind the scenes but missed the previous phases? You were here to vote, why didn't you?

Seamus Fermanagh
06-24-2010, 16:03
I tweak your gut? You gotta give me more.

It worked for Ducky...

Sigurd
06-24-2010, 16:12
You've been active behind the scenes, but completely inactive in thread until this round. Thus. You tweak my gut.
Not much behind the scenes to speak of... All of it is out in the open. I can count on one hand those I have been in contact with.


As a petty comrade protecting his comrades I take offence. I dunno what you mean by Beskie narrated? Explain please? Double A's orders were irrelevant, a group works with 3 anyway. And Subo confirmed it had no affect. You are insinuating I killed taka? Please explain how this would be possible? I fail to see how I would have managed to do so.
Maybe I have misunderstood this. You, Beskar, Double A and someone protected taka.
Beskar was the only one that was narrated. Is it not so?


Why was it that you had been active behind the scenes but missed the previous phases? You were here to vote, why didn't you?So I am guilty of not voting...
Frankly... the first round I missed due to RL and the second was a landslide on Beefy and I elected to abstain.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-24-2010, 16:24
Not much behind the scenes to speak of... All of it is out in the open. I can count on one hand those I have been in contact with.

Maybe I have misunderstood this. You, Beskar, Double A and someone protected taka.
Beskar was the only one that was narrated. Is it not so?
So I am guilty of not voting...
Frankly... the first round I missed due to RL and the second was a landslide on Beefy and I elected to abstain.

I was in the Beskar, Double A, Pshyconaut protection group as well sigurd

Sigurd
06-24-2010, 16:41
I was in the Beskar, Double A, Pshyconaut protection group as well sigurd
Right so Psychonaut, CDF and Beskar all sent in proper protection orders, yet only Beskar was mentioned in the writeup.

The hairy man claimed he was not Loyalist nor Japanese, and claimed he was in the service of the Chinese. That he was helping us.
Why was taka protected in the first place? was it on GH's order? and what business was taka taking care of for GH, that he couldn't participate in our group?

If you want me to talk more, I'll talk... I have my own gut feelings.

Cultured Drizzt fan
06-24-2010, 16:43
Right so Psychonaut, CDF and Beskar all sent in proper protection orders, yet only Beskar was mentioned in the writeup.

The hairy man claimed he was not Loyalist nor Japanese, and claimed he was in the service of the Chinese. That he was helping us.
Why was taka protected in the first place? was it on GH's order? and what business was taka taking care of for GH, that he couldn't participate in our group?

If you want me to talk more, I'll talk... I have my own gut feelings.

We were mentioned slightly. If you look carefully at the end of the writeup it mentions "the rest of takas protection group ran in" But I honestly don't know why what happened happened.


We were given orders by GH himself :shrug:

naut
06-24-2010, 17:49
Frankly... the first round I missed due to RL and the second was a landslide on Beefy and I elected to abstain.
Fair enough. I also missed the first round.


The hairy man claimed he was not Loyalist nor Japanese, and claimed he was in the service of the Chinese. That he was helping us.
Why was taka protected in the first place? was it on GH's order? and what business was taka taking care of for GH, that he couldn't participate in our group?
GH told us to. And a couple posts back he said that taka was something, which makes sense if he was taken from your group.

On the killer. I think I have at least a basic understanding of what they could be, but I don't want to speculate mindlessly.

taka
06-24-2010, 18:18
I just find it waaay too much of a coincident that I was killed the night sigurd was fishing for my character role pm

i still FOS sigurd

Subotan
06-24-2010, 20:19
Commencing write-up

Sigurd
06-24-2010, 20:47
I just find it waaay too much of a coincident that I was killed the night sigurd was fishing for my character role pm

i still FOS sigurd
Oh come on.... don't dump that big strawman on me mister.
I never asked about any role pm. Again Jolt and ArpeggiateThis can confirm. I simply asked if you had other things to do than staying in our group. Which you first insinuated that you had and then reprimanded me for CC'ing to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. Then you claimed you had RL commitments and hadn't the time to spend playing. Then you claimed you had other commitments in the game.

My gut said you had a role based on those PMs and the *watching* post, but I am not into the killing business.
Why did you reveal in the first place?

Subotan
06-24-2010, 21:50
Psychonaut was standing on guard. Chosen by the Chairman to help watch over a particular member of PEXDET,he was maintaining the outer perimeter. There wasn’t much to maintain, to be honest. The fierce wind and dizzying altitude made it beyond unlikely that they would be subject to a Reactionary assault. But, orders were orders, regardless of how cold Psychonaut got. Personally, Psychonaut had thought it would make more sense to keep a closer watch for threats around their charge, but their group had spare numbers, so…

“Hey!”

Psychonaut looked over to see a man approaching him. He was wearing a grin that was a little too wide for Psychonaut to feel comfortable. Psychonaut aimed his rifle at him, just to be sure.

“Halt!”

The man laughed, and opened his coat to show that he wasn’t carrying any sort of firearm. Reassured, Psychonaut lowered his weapon.

“So what’s a Marxist like you doing stuck all the way out here then, eh? I can’t imagine there’s much to look out for in this part of the camp” said the man, tilting his head down the blocked road from whence the Communists had came..

“Oh, you never know. The Japanese are sneaky blighters. You saw how they caught us unaware in Heihui Chen. They could be planning anything even as we speak” said Psychonaut

“Really? Wow, I had no idea. To think that they might be planning countless ways to bring us civilization. Tsk tsk.” said the man, shaking his head.

“Yeah they really are…wait, what?”

The man flashed another uncomfortable smile, and grabbed Psychonaut by the back of the neck. Too shocked to react, Psychonaut could only scream as he was pulled down onto a blade that was thrust into his belly.

“Sneaky doesn’t even begin to describe it“ whispered the Jap Officer, as he ripped his katana out of Psychonaut’s abdomen, and held it behind his head, steadying Psychonaut to keep him in an upright position.

“You should be proud, Psychonaut. This is an antique blade that has slain Russians, Koreans, Germans... and a lot of Chinese. ” And with that, he brought the blade down fast onto Psychonaut’s neck, slicing through it, and decapitating him.

The Japanese Officer laughed, and wiped his sword on Psychonaut’s hat, before sliding his katana back into its sheath, and slipping away into the night.

***

“Comrades, I have more bad news.”

The Chairman had gathered the Maoists in the freezing cold in the middle of the camp. The Communists were tired and cold, and several of the Marxists, notably Thermal Mercury, M3YUZ, Wishazu and spL1tp3r50naL1ty looked close to death.

“Psychonaut was murdered last night, whilst protecting one of our dear comrades, apparently by the Japanese. We still have more work to do Comrades, and we cannot quit until every single last Counter-Revolutionary is dead and held aloft as a banner to strike fear into the Bourgeoisie, and hope into the hearts of the Peasants.”

A few Communists nodded. Most remained glumly silent.

“Oh, and I have more news. I have searched Azathoth’s belongings thoroughly, and it turns out that he was a loyal Communist who wasn’t even susceptible to any Imperialist propaganda. So I guess that's something to celebrate...”


Alive players: 31/40

ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Captain Blackadder
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC

Lynched players 3/40

Azathoth
Beefy187
shlin28

Killed Players 6/40

Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro
taka
Beskar
Chaotix
Psychonaut

Phase ends at 20:00 GMT+1

M3YUZ
06-24-2010, 22:07
vote YLC

ArpeggiateTHIS
06-24-2010, 22:15
vote YLC


YLC draws your suspicions how, exactly?

M3YUZ
06-24-2010, 22:37
YLC draws your suspicions how, exactly?

I have to admit this was a stab in the dark, i've become a bit confused due to a few days absence and have taken a guess

Seamus Fermanagh
06-24-2010, 22:48
I have to admit this was a stab in the dark, i've become a bit confused due to a few days absence and have taken a guess

2 posts...your vote posted immediately after you're narrative wog warning and this one admitting its randomness ...and a Marathan avatar....suspicious my friend, quite suspicious.

The Kuomintang is not known for a quiet and retireing approach....but Japanese are my lurker pal, they most definitely are.

Romanic
06-24-2010, 23:10
Psychonaut died protecting someone, so he was a special role? Looks to me like it was a similar role to what Beefy claimed (bodyguard dying instead of his target).

Does anyone know who he was protecting last night?

GeneralHankerchief
06-24-2010, 23:29
Psychonaut died protecting someone, so he was a special role? Looks to me like it was a similar role to what Beefy claimed (bodyguard dying instead of his target).

Does anyone know who he was protecting last night?

Yes, and your theory is probably incorrect.

GeneralHankerchief
06-24-2010, 23:38
Okay folks, an issue has come up that I'm going to let the people decide on. Within the past couple of days, I received two PMs:


You wanted a network - Heres a start.

My gut tells me JHT is guilty as hell:

After I made my remarks in the thread, painting him as guilty, he came to me roleclaiming as an investigative agent pursuing a rogue trotskyist. He noted that he can investigate three people every night to see if they were said trotskyist. However, first night he defended for you, second night he missed his orders, and third night he investigated - but wouldn`t tell me who.

Heres why I dont believe him:

1) After he made this claim, I asked him if he killed Winston. It is apparent to me that the person who is killed Winston is pursuing the hairy man, based on the comment about facial hair. It was at this point that he declared that the hairy man couldn`t be the trotskyist, and thus the trotskyist must be an investigator - like him. A duel of two as it were.

This strikes me as extremely odd - when you note that the hairy man and avenger seem concerned with the purity of communism (based on the writeups). So i think its likely that JHT used a true backstory, but is in fact the hairy man, and doesn`t want to make a roleclaim that can be later contradicted by the avenger.

2) He noted that after he kills the trotskyist, he becomes either an SK or a simple townie. But he doesn`t like being an SK - so he`ll choose the town - he promises.

Sounds like an unimaginative attempt to demonstrate pro -towness to me - which doesn`t reflect reality. Why would an investigator become an SK? Even if this is true, it illustrates an independent VC.

3) After he told me this - I told him i`d rescind my accusation, since he might be useful - if he roleclaimed to you and asked to be roleblocked and scanned. He refused to do so - even though he blamed me for drawing attention to all this information - saying he was now dead anyways.

My gut is he thinks I`m a deceivable newbie, but if the information got to you - he`d be dead.

4) Three investigations a night - you`ve got to be kidding. Shameless attempt to seem valuable.

I strongly recommend lynching him now based on his unwillingness to undergo an investigation, the scummy nature of his roleclaim to explain my revenge connection - which paints him as the hairy SK if you read my post, and the revenge connection itself.

If you want confirmation of these things, you can ask JHT whats up. I recommend not telling him what I`ve said and simply asking the question, to see if he changes his story. Personally I think theres no reason to bother waiting the night. His roleclaim indicates an independant VC from the town, and the supposed person he is pursuing doesn`t seem dangerous. So even if he is telling the truth (unlikely), it doesn`t harm us much to kill him.

Hopefully you`ll let me help in future - i`m new here, and don`t know the lay of the land.

Pinman

This prompted my request in the thread for JHT to give me his particulars.

JHT responded last night with this:


Night one: followed your instructions
Night two: missed my orders
Night three: investigated you, Beskar and Double A.

I am a special agent looking for a rogue Trotskyist who I stopped from assassinating Mao, killing his partner. That is where the revenge stuff in the write ups come from. If I manage to catch my target I can become either a pro-town role or SK, I have zero interest in becoming a serial killer. I have three investigation per night, which may or may not uncover rightists. I lose this ability if the target is killed. I can assassinate, my pm doesn't mention losing this if my target dies. I had a one shot night immunity, used up now obviously. I can also take part in any town groups as normal.

So as you can see, I could be quite useful to you.

We initiated a precautionary roleblock on JHT last night. I'm still waiting to hear back on investigation results for Pinman. Officer discussion of this issue has been inconclusive, with general sentiment being "kill them both to be safe." Therefore, I throw the issue to you.

Pinman
06-24-2010, 23:45
Next time I give you private analysis, which last night's roleblock demonstrated to be correct, keep it between you and the officers.

Vote: johnhughthom

johnhughthom
06-24-2010, 23:57
Do what you like people, I'm guessing the only reason I'm still alive is that my target hasn't been paying close attention to the thread. He can't miss this.

Pinman
06-24-2010, 23:59
Which is why I asked that you either be immediately killed, or as per my initial suggestion, privately roleblocked and investigated.

Posting my suspicions and your roleclaim in the thread was.... unwise Mr. chairman.

GeneralHankerchief
06-25-2010, 00:14
Hey, don't criticize me over this. We can't make anything out of the roleblock, since the hairy man only showed up once before this and we've barely seen the KMT at all. Also, john, if you are telling the truth, I can get protection on you.

Romanic
06-25-2010, 00:16
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/kagemusha/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/kagemusha/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Romanic https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/images/kagemusha/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2512989#post2512989)
Psychonaut died protecting someone, so he was a special role? Looks to me like it was a similar role to what Beefy claimed (bodyguard dying instead of his target).

Does anyone know who he was protecting last night?
Yes, and your theory is probably incorrect. Can you elaborate comrade Chairman? Unless you believe this information is better kept secret.

Knowing who was targeted last night may help us guess rightly in the future.

johnhughthom
06-25-2010, 00:25
Hey, don't criticize me over this. We can't make anything out of the roleblock, since the hairy man only showed up once before this and we've barely seen the KMT at all. Also, john, if you are telling the truth, I can get protection on you.

I am telling the truth, how do I prove it?

I don't know about Pinman's loyalties but his pm to you doesn't really reflect the pms we swapped. I didn't say the hairy man couldn't be my target, I said it was unlikely he would waste time on random kills as he was likely to have similar abilities to mine (an assumption) it would be a waste to go around randomly vigging people. I didn't promise that I wouldn't become a serial killer, I stated I disliked such roles. I didn't express unwillingness to undergo investigation, I simply refused to reveal to you on his say so, when you asked me to do so I did. I never claimed to have any other VCs than neutral. As for the three investigations, they are apparently unlikely to turn up rightists (it doesn't specifically say they can't) and I lose them if I get my target. Slightly overpowered? Perhaps. Unheard of in mafia games? Hardly.

naut
06-25-2010, 02:39
Someone doesn't like my work obviously. For the love of all things holy lynch:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Niklas

Then grill a few semi-lurkers, one of them is the hairy guy and the remaining 1-2 Japs.

Infact. 100% lynch Niklas. There's a reason they killed me with a sword. Someone wanted to bring me over to the Jap team, but couldn't. So they thought they'd off me instead.

Double A
06-25-2010, 02:54
vote: Niklas

Unless the 3 days PM investigation proves me wrong, Psycho is, at the very least, not anti-town.

wideyedwanderer
06-25-2010, 03:39
I'll be honest and say it... I'm confused. :juggle2: Having read the pm's General Handkerchief posted, it's too early to rule out Pinman, but my gut is telling me johnhughtom is more likely the guilty one. But Niklas also seems suspicious. Psychonaught was likely pro-town (or at the very least, not anti-town, as Double A pointed out), and he seems to think Niklas was behind his murder. I'm gonna hold off on casting my vote until I get a better feel.

On a side note: I don't understand why mafia games at this site allow dead people to openly post their thoughts on who is guilty/innocent. :hanged:That's like communicating with ghosts, isn't it? :thinking: