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A Bridge Zhou Far
Or, Three Stars Rising<o:p></o:p>
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A journey of a thousand li starts with a single step. – Lao Tzu<o:p></o:p>
<st1:date year="1938" day="24" month="10">October 24th 1938</st1:date>
Whilst the world focuses on <st1:place>Europe</st1:place>, and the dreams of one madman, the thunder of war has already rumbled in the East for a year. This is the Second-Sino Japanese War, a conflict that would later merge with the Second World War. Japanese soldiers have swarmed out of <st1:country-region>Manchukuo</st1:country-region> into the Republic of China, capturing <st1:country-region>Peking</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region>Shanghai</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region>Nanking</st1:country-region>, often with horrific brutality. . The actions of the People’s Extraordinary Detachment (PEXDET) will prevent <st1:country-region>Wuhan</st1:country-region> from joining that list. This particular force is under the command of Captain Subotan, who was meeting with Kuomintang forces in the town of <st1:country-region>Heihui Chen</st1:country-region> in order to launch a counter attack out of <st1:country-region><st1:country-region>Guei</st1:country-region><st1:country-region> Sui</st1:country-region><st1:country-region> Valley</st1:country-region></st1:country-region> and seize control of the Yangtze, thereby cutting off Japanese forces in <st1:country-region>Wuhan</st1:country-region>. Plans were discussed with Colonel Bei Bi, commander of the <st1:country-region>KMT</st1:country-region> forces in Heihui Chen. The Colonel noticeably stiffened when Comrade Subotan walked into the room, and he appeared to have some difficulty bowing in greeting to the Communists. Subotan made a mental note to develop a personal dislike towards him. Regardless of the relationship between the two commanders, it was agreed that the following morning, both armies would march down to confront the Japanese in battle, with the <st1:country-region>KMT</st1:country-region> artillery that were overlooking the valley they were camped in providing covering fire during the assault.<o:p></o:p>
<st1:country-region>October 25th 1938</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region>03:00</st1:country-region><st1:country-region> Central Beijing</st1:country-region> Time, Heihui Chen.<o:p></o:p>
Lan Ben Dan shivered as a wind blew through into the mouth and up the <st1:country-region><st1:country-region>Guei </st1:country-region><st1:country-region>Sui</st1:country-region><st1:country-region> Valley</st1:country-region></st1:country-region>. Watching the entrance to the town, he was responsible for making sure that the United Front troops did not receive unwelcome visitors during the middle of the night. Well, he and another Communist soldier were meant to be standing watch, along with two other <st1:country-region>KMT</st1:country-region> soldiers, but it looked like they were all too lazy to bother. He didn’t blame them. This would be the last peaceful sleep that any of them would get prior to the attack tomorrow. Heck, it could even be the last sleep they’d ever get.
Lan stamped his feet in an attempt to keep warm. His limp cigarette, clamped between tight lips and stamped with Cyrillic, glowed briefly. After a minute or so of this “exercise”, he stopped, now thoroughly toasty. But the sound of footsteps didn’t stop. A faint pattering could be heard, coming from outside the town. Lan strained his ears to make sure he wasn’t about to raise the alarm because of a goat, or that liquor he’d had earlier to keep warm. He quickly realised that it was definitely not a sheep, or mild intoxication, so he cocked his rifle and went to peer down the sights.<o:p></o:p>
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That distinctive clicking sound one hears when a bolt on a rifle is pulled back was muffled by the sound of a tank shell slamming into the hut Lan Ben Dan had stamped in, unfortunately killing him. An engine then started with a splutter that quickly levelled into a dirty snarl and a Japanese tank rolled into view. Swarms of Japanese soldiers erupted from the undergrowth like bees from a hive, and charged up to the ruins of the guardhouse. The treads of the tank ground and ripped the earth as they dragged the machine up the small hill.<o:p></o:p>
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The tank heaved up the hillock, and its front end swung through the air before smashing into the ground once the summit was reached. With Heihui Chen both defenceless and unaware of the attack, the tank’s main cannon opened fire into the city.<o:p></o:p>
***<o:p></o:p>
Captain Subotan stormed outside his tent to find that the town of <st1:country-region>Heihui Chen</st1:country-region> was under attack by the Japanese. An orange glow emanated from the far end of town, as did screams, cracks and low booms. His name was called, and Subotan turned around to see panicked Corporal Mei Yi Sei run up to him
“Corporal! What in the name of Lao Tzu is going on?”
“We don’t know! I have no idea how they could have found us! They must have known about this for days, as there’s no way they could have mobilised tanks if they’d just discovered us”!<o:p></o:p>
“Arggh! Where’s Colonel Bei Bi? I presume the Kuomintang is counter attacking with their artillery?”
“They’ve disappeared! They must have been wiped out in the initial attack.”
“That’s impossible; the Japanese would need air support.”
Whilst others gathered around Subotan, waiting for orders, the Corporal pulled some binoculars out of a pouch hanging from his waist and inspected the ridge where the Kuomintang artillery was raining righteous justice upon the Japanese. Or rather, should have been.
“I don’t see anything Captain. Not even any wreckage.”
“That lying bastard! He knew we were going to be attacked, and he let us take the brunt of it so he could escape. Reactionary scum!”
Before the Corporal could reply, there was a Prauff as a bullet hit Mei’s temple, and the rest of him collapsed. The others around Subotan anxiously pressed him for orders, their faces full of confusion and fear.
“The only way the Japanese could have discovered us is if they have infiltrated our unit and are hiding amongst us, sending information and reports back to their headquarters. The same goes for the Kuomintang, as they-”
An explosion not 100 metres away, engulfing some Communist partisans, cut Subotan short.
“There’s no way we can hold this town, not against artillery and heavy armour. Give the order to ‘RETREAT!’”<o:p></o:p>
The soldiers didn’t need telling twice, and the irregulars grabbed their weapons, some supplies and ran for their very survival up the valley, out of the town and into the mountains of <st1:country-region>Central China</st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>
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Short shouts indicated when a comrade had been unlucky enough to be picked out by a Japanese sniper. Subotan was panting for breath, and as each step became harder and harder, he fell further and further behind. A log lying between two rocks caused the Captain to stumble and fall, crashing into the earth. A Japanese soldier who was in hot pursuit noticed this, and the hail from bullets which spewed forth from his weapon made sure that Captain Subotan never got back up.
<st1:country-region>October 25th 1938</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region>04:30</st1:country-region><st1:country-region> Central Beijing</st1:country-region> Time, 4 km North West of Heihui Chen.
It had been twenty minutes since the last Chinese soldier had made it to the out and over the top of <st1:country-region><st1:country-region>Guei </st1:country-region><st1:country-region>Sui</st1:country-region><st1:country-region> Valley</st1:country-region></st1:country-region>. The ones who had huddled around in small groups, mourning friends and patriots lost, with some crying, others scouring the valley with binoculars for survivors, and the majority just staring into space.<o:p></o:p>
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Eventually, one of the latter stood up.
“That’s it, we’re the only ones left alive. Has anyone done a roll call?”<o:p></o:p>
Everyone shook their heads, and a quick head count estimated that there were about 40 men present.
“40? Out of 218? In that case, there’s no way we can complete our objectives, even if we had Nationalist support. A full scale strategic retreat is our only option. It’s what the Captain would have done, were he alive.<o:p></o:p>
And we can’t retreat back to Nationalist territory, not after what happened. They’d kill all of us, seeing as we know the truth as to why <st1:country-region>Wuhan</st1:country-region> will fall. So, it’s all the way back to Yan’an Soviet for us.”
A shudder swept through the company. They remembered the last time that Communists had had to do that, and it wasn’t pretty. Indeed, some present had even been veterans on that march; they shuddered most of all.
“Before we set out though, we need a leader. It is vital that we have strong leadership to guide us over 1,000 kilometres. So, I propose that we now elect a Chairman to lead us, and that he pick a cabal of officers, to advice and act for him.”
Nods of agreement could be seen throughout the grouping.
“However, before we set out, I must pass on to you what I heard from Captain Subotan moments before he died. He said that we must have been infiltrated by both the Kuomintang, and the Japanese. I have no idea if they are still within this company, but the risk is apparent. We may need to take action to purge our worker’s collective of Rightist influence.”
Steely stares and grim scowls met this unpleasant news, and whilst the workers were busy thinking of who might be a traitor, the soldier who had been speaking slipped back into the ranks. Due to it being very dark, nobody could recall his name, face or voice. Either way, it was clear that he didn’t want to be identified, and that his advice was sound. And as the rising sun broke through the mountains of China to glare upon the Marxists in their mountain hideout, the Communists gathered their packs, hoisted their rifles onto their backs and began their long descent, and their long march, unsure and mournful.<o:p></o:p>
***
This is an election phase. The players will now vote for who they think should be Chairman. This office is one that shall be held for life. A letter of resignation is effectively a death warrant. No players will be lynched this phase. The Chairman will then pick an Officer Corps to serve him. Anyone wishing to become an Officer (But not the Deputy) must put their names forward, or be nominated by someone else.
<o:p></o:p>This phase will last for 23 hours, until 21:00 GMT+1.
Alive players: 40/40
ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Azathoth
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Sasaki
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Lynched players 0/40
Killed Players 0/40
https://img213.imageshack.us/i/chinesecommunisttroopsm.jpg/
Double A
06-16-2010, 22:05
elect: Beefy187
Townie town town!
Officul tallie!
Beefy187 (1): Double A
Not voting: (39):ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Azathoth
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Sasaki
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC
It's an election phase AA >_>
Double A
06-16-2010, 22:11
Fixed :beam:
Azathoth
06-16-2010, 22:11
Vote: Azathoth for Chairman! I'm not Japanese!
DO I LOOK JAPANESE TO YOU?
HUH? DO I?
LOOK AT MY FACE! ROOK AT IT!
:dizzy2::oops:
Double A
06-16-2010, 22:12
We do not approve of racism on the org :stare:
However, we do on TWC. Well done!
@Azathoth
When you're electing a Chairman, use Elect:Subotan, rather than Vote:Subotan, as the latter implies you're lynching him.
Azathoth
06-16-2010, 22:18
Elect: Azathoth
The spirit of our fallen leader guides me with his wisdom!
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-16-2010, 22:24
Elect: ArpeggiateTHIS
FREEDOM FROM THE CONSTRAINTS OF CAPITALISM....PROLETARIAT....mumblemumble...JUSTICE....for all...
Cute Wolf
06-16-2010, 22:26
A real Chinese for Chairman!!!
Elect: AVSM
Elect: Beskar
If you've seen any of my backroom posts, I am regularly accused of being a communist. This is a perfect role for Comrade Beskar, to lead the revolutionary workers republic to glory!
johnhughthom
06-16-2010, 22:31
Townie town town!
Looks forward to whatever punishment the host can cook up. Elect: Niklas
DO I LOOK JAPANESE TO YOU?
HUH? DO I?
LOOK AT MY FACE! ROOK AT IT!
I have visions of a Chinese Homer Simpson shaking his fist saying that.
GeneralHankerchief
06-16-2010, 22:38
Elect: GH
One of these days I'm actually going to get this role. :laugh4:
https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/graffiti01.jpg
[Sorry, couldn't resist - GH]
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-16-2010, 22:43
https://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7489/23922408.png
I doubt anyone will be able to top that. Comrade Beskar it is!
Elect: Beskar
Azathoth
06-16-2010, 22:43
My election as leader will ensure the defeat of the Japanese devils at Khalkin Gol a year from now!
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/gre.jpg
GeneralHankerchief
06-16-2010, 22:45
Oh dear, it appears as if vandals have already struck.
Splitpersonality
06-16-2010, 22:46
Elect: Beskar
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-16-2010, 22:51
Oh dear, it appears as if vandals have already struck.
Unelect Beskar, Elect: General Hankerchief
I like a good joke, and "Comrade Hankerchief" has a certain ring to it :beam:
Double A
06-16-2010, 22:55
Poor GH :(
unelect: Comrade Beef Monster, elect: Comrade Hankerchief
Cute Wolf
06-16-2010, 23:05
nah, no one choose real chinese???? why??? :clown:
Workers, Heroes of the Chinese Republic. The American Capitalist Bourgeoisie dogs attempt to infilitrate our shores and spread, taking away our wealth, hard labour and pollute our minds with their descendant and dishonourable ways.
Unite, my Comrades, unite in arms, for we of the Peoples Revolution shall forge our destiny in the stars and create a new world, where all men are equal!
Know the enemy when you see it, strike a chord of fear into their hearts, fight for justice!
https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/graffiti03.jpg
nah, no one choose real chinese???? why??? :clown:
Because AVSM is a poor candidate for such a responsible position, mostly due to his inactivity.
elect: Beskar
Azathoth
06-16-2010, 23:12
I do not have the support of the people. :shame:
The only other responsible choice is to Elect: Beskar!
GeneralHankerchief
06-16-2010, 23:13
My my, the vandals are certainly active tonight. Beskar, what say you to the charges that you are a vampire?
Double A
06-16-2010, 23:30
(remember everyone, GH can ban you.
Just kidding, you wouldn't do that? Right? Uh... right?)
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-16-2010, 23:33
(remember everyone, GH can ban you.
Just kidding, you wouldn't do that? Right? Uh... right?)
I am sure Comrade Hankerchief would never exile a good communist proletariat. But Those evil capitalists have no place in the workers paradise!
https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1157/usagh.png
Double A
06-16-2010, 23:44
:laugh4:
https://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6692/beskar.jpg
With Chairman Beskar leading us, how can the Revolution fail?
Elect: Chairman Beskar
Beefy187
06-16-2010, 23:59
Elect: Beefy
I'm not Japanese.
Azathoth
06-17-2010, 00:00
Location:Tokyo
:skull:
:skull:
He's not japanese.
Elect:Beskar
autolycus
06-17-2010, 02:05
I would like to nominate myself for some lesser post. I will support as chairman whoever will allow me to give according to my abilities in that way.
GeneralHankerchief
06-17-2010, 02:12
I would like to nominate myself for some lesser post. I will support as chairman whoever will allow me to give according to my abilities in that way.
You got it.
I would like to nominate myself for some lesser post. I will support as chairman whoever will allow me to give according to my abilities in that way.
You got it.
My good comrades of the revolution, what you see before you is "Comrade" Hankerchief part-taking in Bribery!
In his ruthless lust for power, he will sell the noble positions of deputy in exchange for support, regardless of their qualifications or their ability, to his attempt to lead this Revolution Backwards!
You have all witnessed the abuse and vandalism concerning the truth, which he hides behide paint of red, and most notoriously, blue of the the south. He now openly recieves bribes of support, in recipient of priority and preferential treatment for positions of power. The mark of capitalism and his desire of power has tainted, beyond recognisable, an upstanding member of the revolution, and as such, should be brought to justice.
seireikhaan
06-17-2010, 02:31
Elect: GeneralHankerchief
Beskar's slew of posters endorsing him was the clincher. Further, I offer my services as an officer to our glorious leader. :bow:
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-17-2010, 02:37
Unelect: General Hankerchief, Elect: Beskar
Bribery is the weapon of the capitalist dog. :tongue:
landlubber
06-17-2010, 02:42
Elect: General Handkerchief.
Vandalism is the sign of a true Communist!
autolycus
06-17-2010, 02:52
Elect: General Handkerchief It is not bribery for him to enable me to serve according to my abilities. Rather, it is the suitable placement of people where they can best be of service.
johnhughthom
06-17-2010, 02:56
Unelect, Elect: General Hankerchief
Beskar would not be a good leader.
Double A
06-17-2010, 03:05
Elect: General Handkerchief It is not bribery for him to enable me to serve according to my abilities. Rather, it is the suitable placement of people where they can best be of service.
Yes! We are bringing back the glories of our ancestors mixed with the glories of Mao! All Chineese are above the capitalist pigs and Japanese warmongerers! Comrades, unite!
It is clear that the puppet right-winged counter-revolutionaries Beskar and GH and their imperialistic propaganda are doing everything they can to buy the votes of the rightful honest masses.
I present myself as a normal man from the people, one who can lead the glorious revolution and catch the reactionary enemies of people and give them death like the capitalist pig-dogs that they are. Long live the revolution of the people!
~Comrade Jolt~
Elect: Jolt
Double A
06-17-2010, 03:54
Comrade Jolt, you make a good case, but I do not see either of our respected Comrades as capitalist swine. How would you know they are working against our Glorious People's Revolution?
ooc: Gah I can't help but imagine this all in Russia accents, I need to watch a Jackie Chan movie or somethin'
Elect: Comrade GH
Your plea has illicited my sympathy.
Captain Blackadder
06-17-2010, 04:09
Political criticism is our enemies' best friend fellow comrades we must be decisive when selecting outr chairmen all who choose otherwise are clearly counter revoluntionary. Thus I say
Elect Chairman Hankerchief
For he appears to me to be a wise man who understands the needs of the people and will destory those who wish to end the glory that is maoism.
Seamus Fermanagh
06-17-2010, 04:17
选举同志一般手帕
:bow:
Elect: Chairman Handkerchief.
For the glory of the people!
Elect: Chairman Handkerchief.
Sorry, wasn't bold.
Double A
06-17-2010, 04:28
选举同志一般手帕
:bow:
And now I know what Chineese characters look like in BCC form.
Beskar is the finest man for this job.
He is a true communist, and he can be trusted to carry out his duty with great honor and responsibility. He will carry us all out alive, for we the common men are each just as important to the People's Nation than any man who claims false superiority. I trust him to be our leader, and indeed he was my choice straight from the beginning, before he even cast his own vote!
Elect: Beskar
How do I know these things? Well, it is simple, really. I myself am a very capable Communist. I am planning, one day, to infiltrate the capitalist pig society of United States, and to enlighten them with the knowledge of Communism! I will turn one of the strongest countries of the world into one of China's strongest allies in Communism!
For those who don't catch the reference, I was the last surviving member of the Communist Cell in Capo III, and I managed to infiltrate ATPG the CIA Agent's reign of terror, turn one of his top doctors against him, set in motion the plan that allowed a serial killer to kill the (supposedly invincible) director, and then coordinate a union between the Communists and the last Mafia family in a last-gasp effort to take down ATPG. In the end, I failed, but I was doomed from the start due to the strong CIA faction
For this reason, I present myself as a potential officer under Beskar's leadership, provided the comrade believes I can be useful to furthering our goals.
I flat out refuse to support either candidate in this mockery of an election. It's politicized and corrupt to it's core - posters, vandalism, underhanded tactics, no base or platform for either candidate, corrupt tactics such as bribery.
AND LOOK AT ALL OF YOU.
You eat it up!
You act as if this is the best yet, and do not think, just follow. No wonder the capitalists, the imperialists, and your masters lord over you. You can all be appeased with shiny lights, fancy words, and empty promises. I am sorry but I from here on out will continue to place a vote of no confidence for either candidate - watch and see, not one of them will act in the ideology of communism, but set-up a fascist police state to lord over us.
Speak out, and you will be silenced! Move out of place, and be whipped! Ask for more, and lose all! That is what you are voting for - no change except who will rule over you.
Captain Blackadder
06-17-2010, 04:54
You are helping our enemies comrade YLC but this attempt to destroy the heart of our organisation. What is it that you want from the candidates?If only we had Mao here to tell us what to do.
Azathoth
06-17-2010, 05:30
You are helping our enemies comrade YLC but this attempt to destroy the heart of our organisation. What is it that you want from the candidates?If only we had Mao here to tell us what to do.
You are quick to point out Beskar's flaws, YLC, but do you not have your own fair share as well?
Comrade YLC seems to be implying that he is perfect. Perhaps he should voluntarily seclude himself for a session of self-criticism?
You are helping our enemies comrade YLC but this attempt to destroy the heart of our organisation. What is it that you want from the candidates?If only we had Mao here to tell us what to do.
No, I am not, I want to strengthen us and follow the communist ideals, but it's nice to see a sheep with teeth instead of gums. I want clarity and openness from the Chairman, and voted in members for the officers, not lapdog appointees.
You are quick to point out Beskar's flaws, YLC, but do you not have your own fair share as well?
Comrade YLC seems to be implying that he is perfect. Perhaps he should voluntarily seclude himself for a session of self-criticism?
See, this is why I am talking about! SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP. MINDLESS FOLLOWER! You immediately find cause to single out and protect Beskar! I accused both, not one! You're a follower and you show it! BOTH candidates are so far unworthy, not just Beskar. They are giving us nothing new, they do not follow the communist doctrine or even show signs of accepting it! You're electing yet another dictator for yourself!
And how dare you imply I am perfect! How dare you imply I want to be elected "Tyrant"!No one is perfect, all are susceptible to corruption, and this is why it is the proletariat, who, as a whole, should lead. Tyranny of the Many, not Tyranny of the One. All you are doing is giving your voice away, and all I am doing is refusing to do so!
No, I am not, I want to strengthen us and follow the communist ideals, but it's nice to see a sheep with teeth instead of gums. I want clarity and openness from the Chairman, and voted in members for the officers, not lapdog appointees.
See, this is why I am talking about! SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP, SHEEP. MINDLESS FOLLOWER! You immediately find cause to single out and protect Beskar! I accused both, not one! You're a follower and you show it! BOTH candidates are so far unworthy, not just Beskar. They are giving us nothing new, they do not follow the communist doctrine or even show signs of accepting it! You're electing yet another dictator for yourself!
And how dare you imply I am perfect! How dare you imply I want to be elected "Tyrant"!No one is perfect, all are susceptible to corruption, and this is why it is the proletariat, who, as a whole, should lead. Tyranny of the Many, not Tyranny of the One. All you are doing is giving your voice away, and all I am doing is refusing to do so!
This man is dangerous. If something goes wrong, he should be shot first.
This man is dangerous. If something goes wrong, he should be shot first.
I am dangerous because I do not support your self-imposed tyranny?! Is this what this entire detachment is made of?! People like you?!
Beefy187
06-17-2010, 06:43
I'm more of YLC follower in this case.
Person who can go against the mainstream, can"t be bad.
Unelect, Elect: YLC
I salute you comrade.
Who is better suited to lead a battered band of soldiers to safety than a renowned General?
Personally, I liked YLC's post, it was really gutsy and has clearly generated alot of discussion already, and that's never a bad thing in the early stages of a game.
However, there's one little thing that niggled at me:
I want clarity and openness from the Chairman, and voted in members for the officers, not lapdog appointees.
The four officers are all power roles (detective, doctor, role-blocker, unknown role); by publicly electing them, you're allowing the mafia to know who has been chosen as your aides, thus painting them as a target for murder. Of course, that's if a mafia doesn't manage to infiltrate your officers to begin with.
Death is yonder
06-17-2010, 07:47
Elect: Chairman Hankerchief
This comrade shows great promise my friends. His optimism and good humor will buy us much reprieve in these dark times!
Azathoth
06-17-2010, 08:45
And how dare you imply I am perfect! How dare you imply I want to be elected "Tyrant"!No one is perfect, all are susceptible to corruption, and this is why it is the proletariat, who, as a whole, should lead. Tyranny of the Many, not Tyranny of the One. All you are doing is giving your voice away, and all I am doing is refusing to do so!
How amusing. I was merely pointing out that it is easy to cast light on the faults of others, but much less so to examine one's own. It is for that very reason that Comrade Mao, in his infinite wisdom, has taught that to actively self-reflect and self-criticize is a revolutionary's most cherished ability, and something all of us, however "human" we may be, should continuously strive to do. Until you said this I'd taken you for a somewhat misguided and arrogant yet well-meaning Communist, but now the cat's out of the bag, eh?
Why did you say Tyrant, even though nothing I said came even close to implying that? Why don't you know the basic tenets of our doctrine? So you want to be "Tyrant", eh? Is that what's brewing in your mind? Well, I just want to warn you now, whether you're a Kuomintang running dog or a riben guizhi zaogao, that your overlords will never let you be "tyrant" of anything; once you have outlived your usefulness to them, they will either dispose of you or reduce you to slavery. If you survive the righteous and indignant vengeance of the people, that is. :brood:
You've 放出袋中猫!!!
I don't like this either.
We should apply a more randomness to the election of the chairman. It would be very bad for us, should we elect a Japanese or a nationalist as chairman.
They would want to become chairman and thereby control the pro-town effort.
I therefore suggest Secura as chairman.
Elect: Secura
@Secura
The Officers are harder to kill by both the Imperialists and any Vigilantes, thanks to them being accorded more powerful weaponry than the rest of you lot. Also, the roles will be publically known to everyone. If the Chairman wishes, I suppose he could change it so that the Officers are elected, but the default position is that the Chairman picks.
I would also like to point out that I am extremely pleased with the level of RP going on, and I hope this level is sustained. :bow:
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-17-2010, 09:15
Unelect; Elect: Beskar
@Secura
The Officers are harder to kill by both the Imperialists and any Vigilantes, thanks to them being accorded more powerful weaponry than the rest of you lot. Also, the roles will be publically known to everyone. If the Chairman wishes, I suppose he could change it so that the Officers are elected, but the default position is that the Chairman picks.
I had guessed that the Chairman would be a tough cookie, but hadn't pegged his officers down as being of similar stock, therefore assuming that their identities would be secret to all but one another and the Chairman, thus making the above post. Naturally, such secrecy wouldn't be required if they're inherently hard to kill themselves.
This is all the result of reading over the rules with no sleep at all... I've learned a valuable lesson today! :laugh4:
I don't mind either way how the officers are chosen; public elections would allow us to pick players according to their strengths to fulfill the power roles, but if we're going to place enough faith in someone to vote for them to be Chairman in the first place, then should we not place further trust in their wisdom and allow them to make the choices themselves.
All I'd ask is that it doesn't descend into some sort of popularity contest, really.
The Chairman is a tough cookie; he is unkillable, and can only be removed by revolt. His officers aren't as tough, but still hard nuts to crack.
a completely inoffensive name
06-17-2010, 09:58
Vote: ACIN
I will give you guys a hint towards my role:
I love women. Even the fat chicks.
a completely inoffensive name
06-17-2010, 10:00
Oh wait, that description might mean that I'm.....Methuselah!
How amusing. I was merely pointing out that it is easy to cast light on the faults of others, but much less so to examine one's own. It is for that very reason that Comrade Mao, in his infinite wisdom, has taught that to actively self-reflect and self-criticize is a revolutionary's most cherished ability, and something all of us, however "human" we may be, should continuously strive to do. Until you said this I'd taken you for a somewhat misguided and arrogant yet well-meaning Communist, but now the cat's out of the bag, eh?
Why did you say Tyrant, even though nothing I said came even close to implying that? Why don't you know the basic tenets of our doctrine? So you want to be "Tyrant", eh? Is that what's brewing in your mind? Well, I just want to warn you now, whether you're a Kuomintang running dog or a riben guizhi zaogao, that your overlords will never let you be "tyrant" of anything; once you have outlived your usefulness to them, they will either dispose of you or reduce you to slavery. If you survive the righteous and indignant vengeance of the people, that is. :brood:
You've 放出袋中猫!!!
Comrade Azathoth (OOC: That's funny some how :laugh4:), I want nothing more then equality, and if communism is that path, then so be it. I say "Tyrant" and "Dictator", because that is what our enemies are - men who would seek to gather all the power to themselves, who would control your thoughts and motives. I've lived an entire life under such men, I will do so no more! If that means opposing others amongst us, so be it - many self-proclaimed liberators became tyrants and kings themselves.
To that end, if all are in disagreeance about electing Officers, then allow us to decide when they go! If an Officer is NOT living up to his duties or the satisfaction of the proletariat, then he should be sacked and replaced, or we all lynch the Officer!
wideyedwanderer
06-17-2010, 10:03
Azathoth, I was going to vote for you, but it looks like you've stepped out of the race, right?
All I'd ask is that it doesn't descend into some sort of popularity contest, really.
[metagaming] popularity is a necessary evil in this case. It's just like you said about AVSM, he won't make a good Chairman because of his usual inactivity. The chairman and his deputies need to be trustworthy people who will follow the game actively, make the right decisions and will not miss an order. These features are closely related to popularity in the GameRoom, that's why some players sadly are disadvantaged on election day.
a completely inoffensive name
06-17-2010, 10:11
I'm popular. People should elect me.
Azathoth
06-17-2010, 10:51
I'm popular. People should elect me.
Who are you again?
Comrade Azathoth (OOC: That's funny some how ), I want nothing more then equality, and if communism is that path, then so be it. I say "Tyrant" and "Dictator", because that is what our enemies are - men who would seek to gather all the power to themselves, who would control your thoughts and motives. I've lived an entire life under such men, I will do so no more! If that means opposing others amongst us, so be it - many self-proclaimed liberators became tyrants and kings themselves.
To that end, if all are in disagreeance about electing Officers, then allow us to decide when they go! If an Officer is NOT living up to his duties or the satisfaction of the proletariat, then he should be sacked and replaced, or we all lynch the Officer!
Duly noted, comrade. We will have an ideologic spar in a more opportune time and place. :beam:
Having dismissed the demagogue, Azathoth turns away with a :blank: look on his face before facing wideeyedwanderer.
Well, I am but a young and inexperienced farmer's lad, Beskar is certainly a more adept leader and strategist. Though you may vote for whomever you wish, know that I have thrown my support behind him.
Proud that the flattery had not clouded his judgement or made him feel overly proud, Azathoth moved a few yards beyond the encampment, took off his chinos, and emitted a blob of what had once been a particularly spicy bowl of lo mein. The consistency of the stuff created an uncomfortable sensation, leading Azathoth to gingerly swivel around on his ankles in a fruitless search for a suitable piece of vegetation, or a stray shred of cloth. Though most of the party turned away out of courtesy or disgust, General Hankerchief watched it all while stroking his chin. He looked like a man about to make a difficult decision
a completely inoffensive name
06-17-2010, 10:54
@Aza: I'm ACIN! Hi Aza! *shakes hand*
Azathoth
06-17-2010, 10:56
Uh, I'm in a bit of a sticky wicket. :embarassed:
Unelect; Elect: YLC.
Ultimately, a dictatorship of the proletariat must be directed by a dictatorship of one. Our glorious revolution must be guided by a fatherly leader. At least one who speaks out bravely against the potential corruption of this office will strive to resist it the longest.
Plus, the irony is simply too great to ignore.
It has just occured to me, looking through the sign up thread, that I did not elaborate on the town investigation process.
It is a variant upon GH's layer cake investigation system. On the first investigation, the resistance of a player to a particular weapon will be revealed, if they have one. The second investigation will reveal if they are susceptible to anti-Marxist propaganda, whilst the third will reveal if they are a Communist, or not.
選我, 我是一個真正的中國人!
選: taka
(Elect Taka)
vote: General Hankerchief
Comrade Beskar, I am truly sorry to decline your generous offer, but I rate our chances higher with the General, if you are both good Communists. You are equally clever, but the General has less of a history of antagonizing those who should be his allies. If you are not -- and I wish there were a realistic option who had not promoted himself -- then I prefer the option who has not, to my knowledge, attempted to hand-pick his officers.
(Meant elect and not vote, will correct in a new post.)
Cute Wolf
06-17-2010, 17:09
Ok, Ok, all of your campaigning actions just get the better of me Beskar.... I suppose you are good enough... :wink:
Unelect: AVSM, Elect : Beskar
elect: General Hankerchief
Elect: General Handkerchief It is not bribery for him to enable me to serve according to my abilities. Rather, it is the suitable placement of people where they can best be of service.
I shall be appointing each according to their abilitiy. I shall not devulge in the selling of positions in exchange for support. I shall appoint the best and brightest to the positions. If I find signs of corruption, I shall resign them from their posts and appoint a comrade more capable.
then I prefer the option who has not, to my knowledge, attempted to hand-pick his officers.
Instead, you shall settle for the one who sells his positions of power for support, opposed to the one who shall pick based on ability, merit and skill, to successfully lead the communist revolution?
The "General" is one ingrained with American Chicago politics. Bent on corruption and ill wishes upon the people. He would stop at nothing for a glimpse of power.
Winston Hughes
06-17-2010, 18:21
Elect: YLC
The One True Voice of the People!
Instead, you shall settle for the one who sells his positions of power for support, opposed to the one who shall pick based on ability, merit and skill, to successfully lead the communist revolution?
The "General" is one ingrained with American Chicago politics. Bent on corruption and ill wishes upon the people. He would stop at nothing for a glimpse of power.
I'm not so convinced you really chose on merit, Comrade Beskar, that's the thing. As far as I can tell it appears to be "people I talk to a lot", with possibly just a dash of "people I think I can manipulate". I'm fairly certain I qualify on both counts.
I wish I could be sure the General will be any better, but at least he appears a bit more transparent thus far. Let us hope that continues. I am sorry to disappoint you. :bow:
(Also lol Chicago politics.)
johnhughthom
06-17-2010, 19:52
You know if we were to roleplay this game Beskar would be perfect for Chairman, he likes to style himself as a leftist humanitarian sort, but give him a position of power and the authoritarian within comes roaring out.
Voting ends in approximately 55 minutes.
GeneralHankerchief
06-17-2010, 20:12
Elect GeneralHankerchief, and all your wildest dreams will come true.
-edit- And yes, that includes hunting down the rightists.
GeneralHankerchief
06-17-2010, 20:21
Also, this will be my last game for a while and I'd like to live long enough to look on it with fond memories. I know I'm asking for the sympathy vote, but... :shrug:
Also, this will be my last game for a while and I'd like to live long enough to look on it with fond memories. I know I'm asking for the sympathy vote, but... :shrug:
Which guaranties can you give that you are not loyalist or by Darwin a Japanese?
GeneralHankerchief
06-17-2010, 20:33
I can't.
I can't.
Will you pick your officers or will you let the people decide? How will you gain the trust of the people? Same questions to the other candidate
Double A
06-17-2010, 20:52
Who is better suited to lead a battered band of soldiers to safety than a renowned General?
An invincible one :clown:
How amusing. I was merely pointing out that it is easy to cast light on the faults of others, but much less so to examine one's own. It is for that very reason that Comrade Mao, in his infinite wisdom, has taught that to actively self-reflect and self-criticize is a revolutionary's most cherished ability, and something all of us, however "human" we may be, should continuously strive to do. Until you said this I'd taken you for a somewhat misguided and arrogant yet well-meaning Communist, but now the cat's out of the bag, eh?
Why did you say Tyrant, even though nothing I said came even close to implying that? Why don't you know the basic tenets of our doctrine? So you want to be "Tyrant", eh? Is that what's brewing in your mind? Well, I just want to warn you now, whether you're a Kuomintang running dog or a riben guizhi zaogao, that your overlords will never let you be "tyrant" of anything; once you have outlived your usefulness to them, they will either dispose of you or reduce you to slavery. If you survive the righteous and indignant vengeance of the people, that is. :brood:
You've 放出袋中猫!!!
ooc: What's with the Japanese, if Google Translate is to be believed?
We're on a tie at the minute. Normally, this would go to the Officers, but since we don't have any yet, we're going to go into Sudden Death. First vote to break the tie wins.
johnhughthom
06-17-2010, 21:01
Oooh, tense.
Unelect, Elect: GeneralHankechief
Make the people proud!!
The election is decided. Write up will commence in one hour.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-17-2010, 21:02
Ninja'd
In a war of revolutionary character, guerrilla operations are a necessary part. This is particularly true in war waged for the emancipation of a people who inhabit a vast nation. China is such a nation, a nation whose techniques are undeveloped and whose communications are poor. She finds herself confronted with a strong and victorious Japanese imperialism. Under these circumstances, the development of the type of guerrilla warfare characterized by the quality of mass is both necessary and natural. This warfare must be developed to an unprecedented degree and it must co-ordinate with the operations of our regular armies. If we fail to do this, we will find it difficult to defeat the enemy. – Mao Zedong, on Guerrilla Warfare.
After a day’s walking over rolling hills and through curved valleys, the survivors of the Battle of Heihui Chen laid down their packs and set up camp. They had stopped for the night in the crux of a valley, on a clear area of raised grass next to a small, fast flowing stream. Whilst traveling, the Communists had been discussing who should be leading them, and two candidates had quickly emerged as the frontrunners. Beskar and GeneralHankerchief were soon the clear favourites, despite attempts by Azathoth, YLC and Beefy187 to convince the patriots that they could lead the Communists to victory as well as the leading candidates.
Beskar and GeneralHankerchief argued intensely on the journey, with GeneralHankerchief accusing Beskar of being a “soul snatching capitalist”, and Beskar in turn accusing GeneralHankerchief of bribery and unscrupulous deals. The Communists were confused by the debate and appeared to be roughly divided between the candidates by the time a common agreement decided to stop on the banks of the stream to set up camp for the night. As tents, cooking fires and a designated Lavatory Pit were all established; it soon dawned upon the official Counter of votes that there was a tie.
“Hmm, I wasn’t expecting this”, said the Counter. “This is a real pain, why couldn’t there be a landslide? I guess the only way for this to be solved is for some kind of Sudden Death mechanism where the-”
“I VOTE FOR GENERALHANKERCHIEF!” yelled a voice.
Everyone turned around to see Sigurd sitting on the grass with a grin on his face
“I’m voting for him because he has a green hat, like me!” Sigurd’s grin widened as he pointed at the puzzled, but happy GeneralHankerchief to indicate that, yes, he was indeed wearing a very green hat.
“Well, that’s settled then. GeneralHankerchief is now the Chairman of the People’s Extraordinary Detachment.” said the Counter. “Congratulations GeneralHankerchief, you now have to pick an Officer Corps to save us from the Imperialists. I sincerely hope that your, as well as our judgment is sound.”
“Of course”, said the new Chairman. “Under my leadership, PEXDET shall take the action required to ensure that we all survive to build the Marxist Utopia that Comrade Mao has promised us.”
And with that GeneralHankerchief leaped on to a nearby hillock, raised his fist and voice and let out a cry:
https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/921/speechchinese.gif
“Hail Mao Zedong Thought! Crush Reactionary Scheming! Strive for our Very Survival and Inevitable Victory!”
The assembled soldiers replied loudly, and in unison
“Banish the Imperialists! Break the Chains! Secure the Proletariat’s Triumph!”
Even Beskar joined in the chanting, disgruntled though he was that he had lost the election.
Once the fevered shouting wound down, the Chairman spoke, in a much calmer tone
“I know it’s now night, but I shall be accepting nominations all night for the four Officers who shall serve with me. I can accept nominations for other people, or for specific posts, but I need a nomination before I can pick you. You may choose to speak to me in private, or you can announce it in thread. But other than that, you are dismissed”
The Socialists then scattered, with some going back to their tents for rest, others going to nurture cooking fires, some staying still to play cards with their Comrades, and a few sprinting towards the designated Lavatory Pit.
But as the sun set, plans were created that, when revealed for all to see the following day, would show just how much that strong leadership was needed.
GeneralHankerchief – 12 – GH, Khaan, AA, landlubber, autolycus, John, Blackadder, Seamus, miotas, DIY, Renata, Sigurd
Beskar – 11 – Beskar, Romanic, Split, Secura, Azathoth, Shlin, Flax, CDF, aThis, Cute Wolf, Chaotix
YLC - 3 – Pinman, Winston, Beefy
Jolt – 1 – Jolt
Taka – 1 – taka
ACIN – 1 – ACIN
Didn't vote- TWELVE- AVSM, Death is yonder, Joooray, M3YUZ, Methos, Nictel, Niklas, Sasaki, Thermal Mercury, wideyedwanderer, wishazu
It is now the Night Phase, This phase will last for 23 hours, until 21:00 GMT.
Azathoth
06-17-2010, 22:21
The Socialists then scattered, with some going back to their tents for rest, others going to nurture cooking fires, some staying still to play cards with their Comrades, and a few sprinting towards the designated Lavatory Pit.
:laugh:
ooc: What's with the Japanese, if Google Translate is to be believed?
Uwaaa, translate from Chinese to English. ^w^;
Kanji are just Chinese characters anyway.
The Party has elected a Reactionary Imperialist to lead us all! Oh, what will become of the oppressed masses, soon to be sold as slaves to the Japanese and to the Guomintang... Truly bribery and fear-mongering have won the fight today for the capitalists!
Beefy187
06-18-2010, 00:23
The Party has elected a Reactionary Imperialist to lead us all! Oh, what will become of the oppressed masses, soon to be sold as slaves to the Japanese and to the Guomintang... Truly bribery and fear-mongering have won the fight today for the capitalists!
We elected a man. Lets have faith in him.
GeneralHankerchief
06-18-2010, 00:24
Gentlemen, thank you for your trust. Not only will I lead you to safety, but to utopia.
GeneralHankerchief, though you were not the man I voted for, you are our elected leader and I shall follow you to the ends of the earth.
By the will of the people, and therefore the country, you are the best man for this job and I acknowledge that.
I would like to formally announce my desire to work as one of your officers, that I might better further your goals and therefore the goals of the people.
My previous announcement has been quoted for your convenience; it will show you why I am suitable for the task.
Beskar GeneralHankerchief is the finest man for this job.
He is a true communist, and he can be trusted to carry out his duty with great honor and responsibility. He will carry us all out alive, for we the common men are each just as important to the People's Nation than any man who claims false superiority. I trust him to be our leader, and indeed he was my choice straight from the beginning, before he even cast his own vote!
Elect: Beskar Hail GeneralHankerchief!
How do I know these things? Well, it is simple, really. I myself am a very capable Communist. I am planning, one day, to infiltrate the capitalist pig society of United States, and to enlighten them with the knowledge of Communism! I will turn one of the strongest countries of the world into one of China's strongest allies in Communism!
For those who don't catch the reference, I was the last surviving member of the Communist Cell in Capo III, and I managed to infiltrate ATPG the CIA Agent's reign of terror, turn one of his top doctors against him, set in motion the plan that allowed a serial killer to kill the (supposedly invincible) director, and then coordinate a union between the Communists and the last Mafia family in a last-gasp effort to take down ATPG. In the end, I failed, but I was doomed from the start due to the strong CIA faction
For this reason, I present myself as a potential officer under Beskar's GeneralHankerchief's leadership, provided the comrade believes I can be useful to furthering our goals.
I feel that GH is a good choice.
Double A
06-18-2010, 04:04
Gentlemen, thank you for your trust. Not only will I lead you to safety, but to utopia.
I think GH feels rather like this right now:
and why not, becoming a citizen is a special moment. I recall going into the bathroom to punch the air in joy of the girlfriend wouldn't think me weird...
Are we performing night actions now, or are the officers just being chosen now?
autolycus
06-18-2010, 05:15
I believe we are doing both right now, miotas.
GeneralHankerchief
06-18-2010, 05:19
Anybody who wants to be in a protection group with me, contact me.
I wish to in a protection group and help my comrades fight Imperialism.
Death is yonder
06-18-2010, 08:52
GeneralHankerchief – 12 – GH, Khaan, AA, landlubber, autolycus, John, Blackadder, Seamus, miotas, DIY, Renata, Sigurd
Didn't vote- TWELVE- AVSM, Death is yonder, Joooray, M3YUZ, Methos, Nictel, Niklas, Sasaki, Thermal Mercury, wideyedwanderer, wishazu
It is now the Night Phase, This phase will last for 23 hours, until 21:00 GMT.
:no:
Elect: Chairman Hankerchief
This comrade shows great promise my friends. His optimism and good humor will buy us much reprieve in these dark times!
:clown:
Sorry DIY, I must have missed you :shame:
GeneralHankerchief
06-18-2010, 09:14
I currently have 5 people signed up for protection, including myself. Would like 1-3 to have solid protection on two people tonight.
Azathoth
06-18-2010, 09:25
Y'alright, I'll work with you for tonight.
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-18-2010, 09:51
Count me in!
The iron fists of the proletariat will repel any foul renegades on our journey towards socialist utopia!
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-18-2010, 11:14
I will help out! :yes:
Round ends in approximately 47 minutes.
wideyedwanderer
06-18-2010, 20:15
General Handkerchief, I did not vote for you, but you have my full support. If you need my assistance in any way, you have it.
About protection groups:
You do not need to specify what weapons you will use to defend your target. If you do, it will have no effect on the success of your defence.
Also, all that you need for your protection group to be successful is to have three members defending. Four or five make no difference towards the success of the defence, other than that if one of your group is incapacitated, then so long as there are still three people protecting your target, then your protection will remain successful.
The phase has ended. Write up will commence in one hour.
It is a fact that during the war the enemy may take advantage of certain people who are lacking in conscience and patriotism and induce them to join the guerrillas for the purpose of betraying them. Officers must, therefore, continually educate the soldiers and inculcate patriotism in them. This will prevent the success of traitors. The traitors who are in the ranks must be discovered and expelled, and punishment and expulsion meted out to those who have been influenced by them.
In all such cases, the officers should summon the soldiers and relate the facts to them, thus arousing their hatred and detestation for traitors. This procedure will serve as well as a warning to the other soldiers. If an officer is discovered to be a traitor, some prudence must be used in the punishment adjudged. However, the work of eliminating traitors in the army begins with their elimination from among the people. – Mao Zedong, on Guerrilla Warfare
Beskar was thirsty. His dry throat had his complete attention, and the irritation was preventing him from getting to sleep. He tossed and turned in his tent trying to think of Mao’s plump cheeks and his surely rousing voice, but his mind always drifted back to fountains, rivers, oceans-
Beskar snapped out of it. Putting on his boots and strapping his holster to his chest, he wiggled out of his tent into the night. The night was clear, but the waning moon did not allow for perfect vision. Embers from the campfires glowed at the entrance to some of the tents. Beskar glanced around him to make sure that no-one had noticed he was breaking curfew. The coast was clear.
Beskar slowly but surely began to tip-toe towards the stream which ran past the camp. The stream was about knee deep and twelve feet wide, with large flat rocks dotting the current, and its pebbly banks crunched as Beskar slunk towards the flowing water. Beskar’s tongue hung out as he gazed upon the water. Beskar lay down and began to dink deep, practically submerging his head in the clear water.
“Glug, glug, glug…”Beskar, now fully refreshed, lifted his face out of the stream stood up to a crouch, and opened his canteen, filling it up for fear of getting so dehydrated again. As the water pooled in the flask, Beskar looked around him. The stream seemed oddly quieter then it did a moment ago, and the various noises which the night amplifies so loud had all but ceased. He began to feel uneasy. Beskar’s eyes found themselves fixed to a bush on the opposite bank which was shadowed by a large tree. Beskar, eyes glued to the bush, removed his flask from the water and screwed the lid back on, tight.
Suddenly, Beskar dropped his flask, and his hand went to his waste to pull out his pistol. As his hand touched his holster, a terrific bang exploded from across the river, and Beskar felt a woosh nearly touch his ear. Bekar leaped to his side and fired a return shot blindly across the bank. An angry shout was heard and the bush was uprooted and tossed aside to reveal a furious, unwounded Japanese Officer standing behind the bush, pulling back the bolt on his rifle.
The Officer jumped down onto the pebbly bank on his side of the stream, and still holding his rifle, leapt from stone to stone with the speed of a demon. Beskar could only look on in horror as the Officer got closer and closer and closer, avoiding Beskar’s bullets as if they were ladybirds. Beskar threw away his useless weapon and began to scramble up the bank towards the camp, screaming for help. But the Officer was too quick for him, and landing on the shore with a nimble grace, he brought down his rifle butt on Beskar’s head with a skull splitting crack. Tutting in disapproval that the now unconscious Beskar’s head remained intact, the Japanese dragged him back to the river, and held his head under the water. Large bubbles escaped from Beskar’s nose, and the psychopath grinned as he kept Beskar’s head submerged.
“Hey! Stop!”
The Rightist spun around to see three men, all holding weapons running from the camp towards him. Abandoning Beskar, the murderer scrambled to pick up his rifle and aimed it at the newcomers. The newcomers in turn pointed their weapons at the maniac, but uneasily due to a lack of training and concern for their drowning comrade. The Japanese slowly circled around the Communists, making sure that they would be unable to both catch him and rescue Beskar. The standoff was lip-bitingly tense.
The Marxists suddenly lost their nerve and ran to rescue their charge from the water. Seeing their attention was distracted, the Officer turned and slipped into the shadows back towards the camp. The Marxists pulled Beskar out of the river, and rolled him onto his back. Seeing he wasn’t breathing, and lacking any medical training, they slapped his face, shouted and punched his chest.
Happily, with a cough and a splutter, Beskar woke up, albeit with a headache and a newfound fear of water.
***
The following morning, GeneralHandkerchief assembled the Communists before him.
“It is as Subotan feared. Last night, as we slept, one of our Comrades was attacked by vile Imperialist forces.”
Another gasp went through the crowd
“Last night, we were lucky. Men were assigned to watch over Beskar, and he is managed to escape with only concussion” Said GeneralHankerchief
“Yeah, “only concussion” ” muttered Beskar, nursing his head and his pride, still damaged after losing the election.
“But we are fortunate” said GeneralHankerchief “For I have picked my Officer Corps, who shall surely help us rat out the traitors.”
“a completely inoffensive name is now the Political Commissar ”
Hearing his name, ACIN stood up and gave a crisp salute to the Chairman
GeneralHankerchief continued: “Seamus Fermanagh is now our Medical Officer, autolycus is now our Director of Proletarian Justice and Yaseikhaan” he said with a slight pause and smile, “Is our Special Operative”.
All of the mentioned (Save Yaseikhaan, who stood still at the back of the gathering) walked to the front of the group and each gave long winded speeches about how they were going to serve PEXDET and Communism in China fully and how they would deviate from the Revolutionary line etc.
When the speeches had finished, GeneralHankerchief resumed speaking “I suggest, in order to prevent a dictatorship by myself, that whilst marching, we collectively select someone who at the end of the day is lynched by us, so that we shall be able to find the traitors and punish them as one”
Everyone in PEXDET agreed, and GeneralHankerchief dismissed the meeting. Everyone then rushed to collect pots and pans, roll up tents and bury the Lavatory Pit, and within ten minutes, PEXDET was marching once again, down through the valley and through rice paddies and villages, in the direction of Yan’an, and safety.
https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2841/chinesecommunisttroopsm.jpg
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It is now the day phase. This phase will last for 23 hours until 21:00 GMT+1. Please Vote for who you think is an imperialist using the Vote:Lynchee mechanism, and it would be nice if you could remember to put the name of the person you are unvoting if you change your mind.
Alive players: 40/40
ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Azathoth
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Sasaki
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Lynched players 0/40
Killed Players 0/40
GeneralHankerchief
06-18-2010, 22:27
:smoking:
:smoking:
You know, the Mafia did a pretty bad job. If you were just going to kill me GH, you wouldn't need to hide behind the Japanese or the Nationalists, you would have just done it in the name of "Loyalty to the Revolution".
I think our first suspect should be some one who executes poor WIFOM's... is Kagemusha in this game?
Hmmhm. Beskar attacked and successfully protected, early in the game. Dejà vu :grin:
You wouldn't do that two games in a row as mafia, eh Beskar? :martass:
Double A
06-18-2010, 23:05
You know, the Mafia did a pretty bad job. If you were just going to kill me GH, you wouldn't need to hide behind the Japanese or the Nationalists, you would have just done it in the name of "Loyalty to the Revolution".
I think our first suspect should be some one who executes poor WIFOM's... is Kagemusha in this game?
Beskar, don't tempt fate again!
DELETE_THIS
06-18-2010, 23:07
My gun was jammed! Reporting for duty now!
Seamus Fermanagh is now our Medical Officer... and Yaseikhaan is our Special Operative.
Cos nobody else saw that coming from a mile off, right? -_-
Beskar, don't tempt fate again!
I am not scared of some Lazy-eyed Nippo who cannot even shoot straight. I was there in the open, and they completely missed from the other-side of the bank. It was probably some conscripted paddy farmer from the urban Owara, trying to grow rice in cement.
Seamus Fermanagh
06-18-2010, 23:16
1 Japanese officer attempts solo kill of Beskar. [mafia? special solokiller role?]
Beskar caught doing/being normal. [provisionally suggests Beskar not a verdamnt kuokleptorightwinger? Certainly not Jappo]
Protection group picks Beskar for a good save. He was an obvious target for the rightwingers to sow dissension among the ranks of the peoples soldiers, so the choice wasn't hard, but it was a sound one. We cannot rule out KMT status for Beskie, but....
Double A
06-18-2010, 23:24
I am not scared of some Lazy-eyed Nippo who cannot even shoot straight. I was there in the open, and they completely missed from the other-side of the bank. It was probably some conscripted paddy farmer from the urban Owara, trying to grow rice in cement.
There, that's better. But now Seamus said it.
mafia, I mean
wow, things going pretty quick, i didn't manage to come back home in time to send the protection pms :sweatdrop: glad it didn't have any effect
a completely inoffensive name
06-19-2010, 00:08
Sorry Japs, I have no school, a two liter bottle of Shasta and my gf is angry that I wouldn't share my Wendy's fries (if she wants them why doesn't she just order them herself for Christ sakes!) so I have all the time in the world. Game over.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 00:59
Sorry Japs, I have no school, a two liter bottle of Shasta and my gf is angry that I wouldn't share my Wendy's fries (if she wants them why doesn't she just order them herself for Christ sakes!) so I have all the time in the world. Game over.
やばいな。
autolycus
06-19-2010, 01:38
I would like to hear from Comrade M3YUZ. I am not familiar with his background, and wonder if he might have slipped in from the armies of the Japanese Imperialists.
Vote:M3YUZ
Captain Blackadder
06-19-2010, 01:49
Interesting to say the least my good fellows. A protection in the first night is an interesting occurance.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 02:06
Vote: Beefy187
wo de gege shi han bao bao
Ni kan kan zhe ge zhenme yang.
Happy?
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-19-2010, 02:07
wo de gege shi han bao bao
Ni kan kan zhe ge zhenme yang.
Happy?
No
Vote: beefy
just kidding Comrade beefy, all is well and good yes?
Double A
06-19-2010, 02:39
Only I can vote for Comrade Beefy for no reason :brood:
Hmmhm. Beskar attacked and successfully protected, early in the game. Dejà vu :grin:
You wouldn't do that two games in a row as mafia, eh Beskar? :martass:
:laugh:
Double A
06-19-2010, 02:45
laugh4 is less creepy. :laugh4:
See? :tongue:
i think beefy's a two way spy...........
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 03:17
Vote:Beefy
a completely inoffensive name
06-19-2010, 03:29
Can someone tell me what Beefy said? Google translate is failing me.
Double A
06-19-2010, 04:10
Yeah same here.
johnhughthom
06-19-2010, 04:12
I got "It is Dangerous" from here: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fuk.babelfish.yahoo.com%2F&ei=qTUcTKw2j_TSBInFoaAN&usg=AFQjCNGTq5NslJT5nt4EXLcOcTBNrfGUvA&sig2=3KGvwCCFL9liqmrSgGf6XQ
Can someone tell me what Beefy said? Google translate is failing me.
He wrote it in Japanese, and not Chinese. (John gave the best translation)
Seamus Fermanagh
06-19-2010, 04:43
Indeed, this march has but just begun. The last such was a thing of pride, but not joy. But we have very little else to evaluate, as yet, which are running dogs and which true-hearted comrades. So, in order to at least hear a bit more, I too will Vote: Comrade? Beefy
a completely inoffensive name
06-19-2010, 04:49
Vote: Abstain
Thanks john for the translation.
No Lynch and Abstain are NOT allowed, because I'm spiteful.
Comrade ACIN, what would our late captain would think of such apathy!
Death is yonder
06-19-2010, 05:39
wo de gege shi han bao bao
Ni kan kan zhe ge zhenme yang.
Happy?
Actually beefy is saying:
"My brother is hamburger"
"You see how this goes"
Vote: Psychonaut
For the revolution!
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 05:49
Which would be a better translation, "It is dangerous" or "That's dangerous?" I'm leaning towards the latter.
Oh, and Vote: Beefy
I knew there was something funny about that guy.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 06:15
Japanese I wrote
Yabaina which means anything from "oh bugger" to "thats awesome!"
In Chinese I wrote "my brothers a hamberger" then "Hows that?"
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 06:48
NOOOOO I'VE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY
At least this proves I'm not Japanese. :balloon2:
Double A
06-19-2010, 06:52
Why? Comrade Beefy is very funny.
It seems like way too much of a coincidence that we protected the person that the Japanese also decided to attack.
Perhaps it is just that- a coincidence. But I believe we need to take into a account the fact that the Japanese might have known Comrade Beskar was protected and so decided to attack him.
But even that doesn't make sense. Usually they like to make sure their targets will be killed, not the other way around.
I think there's a leak. I also think that the whole attack was designed to get us all confused and tangled in trying to find out who did it; in that case it has succeeded brilliantly with regards to me.
Although this is by no means the only way to go about this lynch, I believe we need to examine those who knew Beskar was to be protected. This means those involved in the protection, obviously, as well and our Great Leader GeneralHankerchief. If Comrade GH told his plans to the Officers that night as well, they too must be examined.
Following the Beefdom game I think we need to be extremely careful of both elected leaders and fake mafia attacks- both of these tactics were used effectively to create a crushing victory for the mafia in that game, and if they are shown to be successful they may be tried again...
So, Vote: autolycus
Did you know about the protection group before this morning?
GeneralHankerchief
06-19-2010, 08:07
I can clear some of this up. A few people knew about protection on Beskar last night. Aside from the group, the officer corps was aware of it (though khaan has not been active on our Quicktopic and I'm not sure he saw it in time). In addition, I was contacted by an independent group facilitator wanting to know who I was organizing groups on so there wouldn't be any overlap. I'm not sure if that person told his comrades or not. Therefore, I ask that person to come forward and contact me privately (or publicly, if you so wish) and tell me if you kept that information to yourself.
-edit- Hmm, Chaotix has more of a point than I originally thought. Also, I'm a bit surprised that only one Japanese attacked Beskar - wouldn't two be more effective?
Being honest, there is only three logical assumptions to make. GH was trying to bolster his innocence by doing the attack and protecting against it, some one in the know was attempting to bolster their innocent, some one tried to cause a split in the town.
I generally think GH is above that standard of lame WIFOM. So I am going to rule that out.
This means some one in the know (Officer or perhaps a defending group member) attacked me on purpose, by attacking me, and successfully defending, they are attempt to become "confirmed innocent" with super special speech marks. This is the most likely conclusion.
The third option is possible, but it wouldn't have caused a split anyway, if anything, if I ended up dying GH would be more thankful for it.
There is always the possibility that Beskar is a Japanese spy and the knowledge of his protection group was used to attack him and bolster his innocence, but I don't think that's very likely.
I don't have a clue who is a spy so I'm going to Vote: YLC because he was so strongly against our Chairman.
GeneralHankerchief
06-19-2010, 08:44
Beskar had no idea about his protection unless somebody tipped him off to it, which means we still have the problem of there being a mole.
As I am loath (at this early point in the game) to believe that somebody in the officer corps is feeding information to the rightists, I'm going to look outside them for the time being and point the finger at the only other person aside from Beskar's fellow protectors and the officers that I know for sure knew about this protection. Naturally, if there seem to be further leaks, then I'll seriously entertain the possibility that my officers need to be reevaluated.
But for now: Beefy. Time to talk.
Additionally, if Beefy's comrades the past night would come forward (privately, if they so choose) and confirm his story, that would be much appreciated.
There is always the possibility that Beskar is a Japanese spy and the knowledge of his protection group was used to attack him and bolster his innocence, but I don't think that's very likely.
There are still the nationalists.
Anyway, I wouldn't ever attack myself to ever look "innocent" and I haven't ever done it to make myself look innocent. All it would have done is cemented me as one of those people who have to die before the end of the game to "make sure he is not mafia", especially as that happens anyway as I am Beskar. It would be a very bad idea if I was a mafia to do that stunt, stupidly so.
Beskar had no idea about his protection unless somebody tipped him off to it, which means we still have the problem of there being a mole.
Actually, I thought you would have killed me off for RP reasons, rather than actually defend me. I knew nothing about any protection.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 09:02
Ok, well I lied about having a protection group. I have a solo protection ability and I can prove it if I do it right.
I also don't won't any protection on me tonight as my victory condition is to die to go down as Communist legend.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 09:03
I didn't know Beskar was going to be protected. I was inactive from 7 AM to 10 PM. I sent a PM to Subotan requesting protection for "whoever GH chose". GH's instructions and Subotan's response (he allowed it just this once) came afterwards.
GeneralHankerchief
06-19-2010, 09:34
There's also the possibility that it could just be a coincidence. Convenient and perhaps naive, but also most likely the case from a purely statistical point of view.
GeneralHankerchief
06-19-2010, 09:44
Ok, well I lied about having a protection group. I have a solo protection ability and I can prove it if I do it right.
I also don't won't any protection on me tonight as my victory condition is to die to go down as Communist legend.
So why did you specifically need to know who I was setting a group up to protect before you told me who you were going to protect?
You know what is hilarious?
I was right.
Lynch him.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 10:07
So why did you specifically need to know who I was setting a group up to protect before you told me who you were going to protect?
So you knew I was doing something, instead of lurking.
Also I thought we could cover more people this way.
GeneralHankerchief
06-19-2010, 10:10
So you knew I was doing something, instead of lurking.
Also I thought we could cover more people this way.
There still wasn't a need to flat-out lie/fish for information that way though. A simple "Hey GH, just letting you know that I've got protection set up as well" would have sufficed. Heck, I even got that very message from someone I was attempting to put in a group but only a few hours prior to deadline.
a completely inoffensive name
06-19-2010, 10:55
Vote: Beefy Since my abstain doesn't count.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 12:02
There still wasn't a need to flat-out lie/fish for information that way though. A simple "Hey GH, just letting you know that I've got protection set up as well" would have sufficed. Heck, I even got that very message from someone I was attempting to put in a group but only a few hours prior to deadline.
So that we don't protect the same guy?
Cmon this is madness! This isn't enough to lynch a possible protown!
I have a way of proving me innocence.
Just gimme a chance please.
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 12:04
Ok after a quick thought, it doesn't make sense.
I admit lying and all and I do feel sorry, but it was necessary.
While GH is the current leader, I had no reason to trust him.
And I didn't think he would trust me either.
But turns out he was honest to me. He told me that his group is protecting beskar, without raising any question what so ever.
Then Beskar was attacked.
If GH told me Beskars name, why would I attack him?
Plus, everything I've done has been overly done. Attracting so much attention.
I brought this on my self I understand. But something is clearly wrong here.
What way? You claim solo protector -- even if you succeed in protecting someone that doesn't make you innocent. The quote from your PM might be somewhat helpful if you are not unique, but it would require someone else to expose himself in order to confirm you.
ArpeggiateTHIS
06-19-2010, 12:35
Deepest apologies for lack of last night's orders, I was inactive. Won't happen again, comrades.
Also Beefy, you could have attacked me in order to make it look like a poor WIFOM in that I am trying to pull a stunt, except, I would have zero inclination or reason to do such a thing.
Also, you could WIFOM saying "I knew Beskar was protected, hence why I wouldn't do it!"
Also ... if Beefy asking for the protection targets in the first place is a bit :inquisitive: , even more so, GH, is you actually telling him. Why did you do that?
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 13:24
Ok, my last secret.
If my target gets attacked, I will die instead of him.
My personal victory condition is to die that way.
Saying this will make me a night kill target but it beats getting lynched.
As for why I asked, for one, I didn't want to waste the protection, two for the sake of talking to GH and three. I wanted to do something crazy.
I didn't expect GH to give me names. I wanted some suspicion on me so I don't get night attacked but I clearly over did it.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 14:10
Ok, my last secret.
If my target gets attacked, I will die instead of him.
My personal victory condition is to die that way.
He seems like he's trying too hard to avoid a lynch. That's scummy, right?
Anyway, Subotan never mentioned another special role. There are three known officers and one secret-role officer, and he didn't imply there would be any more like them. Besides, 4 special roles, a "Town Leader" type, and 2 Mafias is already pretty cluttered for a 40-player game. Oh, and let's not forget the Political Commissar's assistant! An extra, secret, secret role, especially with such a strange victory condition, is just pushing it.
I'll RP later
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 14:28
I'm not going to die without a fight.
If I get lynched protown doing stupid stuff, I won't forgive my self.
Im not sure if i should, but im going to
Vote: autolycus
because i got a pm asking to set up a group before the game actually started but pms were out. makes me feel he's slightly excited - possible role?
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 15:09
Vote: autolycus
To save my self.
Since I can't abstain to show I'm present: I'm very busy today and tomorrow. This is the kind of vote in which I'd like to be able to unvote if something changes or new information is posted. Since I won't be able to return to this thread until well after the deadline, I'm not voting and I wish you all good luck.
If my target gets attacked, I will die instead of him.
My personal victory condition is to die that way.
Worst power role ever, and I should know, because I just had one at CFC that was identical; all that does is kill you and make the person you died in place of a target for the next night instead... it's doing the mafia's job for them. I sympathise for you.
On another note, what is it that autolycus is supposed to have done, Chaotix? Are you suggesting that he participated in the attack against Beskar or merely that he's leaking information?
I can certainly vouch for him on the former, as can three others, as we were protecting someone overnight. He also PM'd us after we had recieved our results from Subotan and stated that he'd just been appointed as an officer and wouldn't be able to participate in forming our clique anymore, so I'm not sure he was able to leak information from the Chairman to anyone else if he was only appointed after the results were out; only the Chairman or other officers can confirm or deny that assumption, though.
I'm more suspicious of taka than I am of Beefy right now. I find the claim credible enough to allow him the chance to die proving it.
vote: taka
Chaotix at least had a reason to put a little pressure on the officers, but taka's follow-up vote on the basis of mere enthusiasm feels opportunistic, especially when coupled with his public mea culpa about having failed to join one of GH's protection groups. Nervous, taka?
I also still want to know why GH actually told Beefy anything.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 17:00
There is no way beefy should be lynched...make a vig group, have him protect a scummy person, attack the vig group, kill beefy, if we ever want to test it. Or we can just have him protect important people at random for a while.
I don't understand the talk about the kill being on a protection target--if it implicates anyone, it's the people in the protection group, yeah? Like in capo III.
He seems like he's trying too hard to avoid a lynch. That's scummy, right?
unvote, vote:Azazoth
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 17:11
You don't know who you're dealing with. Even if every single member of this detachment votes to execute Azazoth I will remain unharmed.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 17:16
I suppose there are worse ways to spend day one than testing a lynch immune claim.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 17:27
:laugh4:
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 17:36
my bad.
unvote, vote:Azathothethot
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 17:39
Wut?
Sasaki is accusing people and then not voting for them. How scummy.
Unvote: Beefy, Vote: Sasaki Kojiro
That's odd claiming lynch immunity after only one vote on yourself, when Beefy was ahead with like 4-5. Why would you give that information so easily?
vote: Azathoth
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 17:44
Ronamic is a bit confused I think.
Ronamic is a bit confused I think.
Am I?
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 17:49
Unvote: Sasaki, Vote: Beefy
:wink:
Double A
06-19-2010, 18:17
Vote: Beefy Since my abstain doesn't count.
If you weren't Comrade "a completely inactive player" ACIN, I would say you were acting suspicious.
You don't know who you're dealing with. Even if every single member of this detachment votes to execute Azazoth I will remain unharmed.
False pressure?
I suppose there are worse ways to spend day one than testing a lynch immune claim.
Maybe he's a godfather role. Let's test it. :tongue:
vote: Azathoth
autolycus
06-19-2010, 18:26
Comrade Azathoth, are you saying that if it is the will of the people that you die, you will defy it?
Unvote Vote: Azathoth
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 18:27
ACIN is an officer with a very important role. You shouldn't disrespect him. Remember that though we remain few in number and under constant threat of assassination and discovery by IJA units, the example we set for the people may well have a significant impact on the outcome of the war. I choose to support our leaders rather than belittle them for small impurities in their characters which are inevitable in any human and, might I add, do not in any way impact their ability to serve the people and the revolution.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 18:34
Comrade Azathoth, are you saying that if it is the will of the people that you die, you will defy it?
Unvote Vote: Azathoth
That I die? If the people believe me to be a counterrevolutionary influence, then they may speak out. Those few whom I have heard from all seem to be poor listeners,
I love the fact that most people didn't catch the real exchange between Sasaki and Azathoth, and now think that Azathoth made a lynch-immune claim. That's pretty funny. Read more carefully.
Unvote, Vote: Beefy
My vote on autolycus before was because I had to pick someone who knew about the protection to put pressure on. Now that we have someone who both knew about the protection AND had no business knowing about it. That looks like a good lynch to me, role claim or not.
Statistically, there's a larger chance of someone who was informed of the protection being scum than there is for both the protection group and the scum picking Beskar coincidentally.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 18:56
Now that we have someone who both knew about the protection AND had no business knowing about it. That looks like a good lynch to me, role claim or not.
Bodyguard does not seem like a scum roleclaim. Let alone bodyguard who WINS by being killed. So there is no reason to lynch beefy.
Statistically, there's a larger chance of someone who was informed of the protection being scum than there is for both the protection group and the scum picking Beskar coincidentally.
No? How? What? There aren't statistical odds for scum deciding to attack someone they know is protected. And you are talking about probability anyway.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 18:56
Chaotix sounds like he's very concerned with protecting azathoth.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 19:10
Chaotix and I go way back.
We grew up in the same village. :smile:
Bodyguard does not seem like a scum roleclaim. Let alone bodyguard who WINS by being killed. So there is no reason to lynch beefy.
That's true. Chalk it up to lack of thought behind that vote I guess. So what do we do with him, then? Waste our night actions to get him killed?
No? How? What? There aren't statistical odds for scum deciding to attack someone they know is protected. And you are talking about probability anyway.
Yep, probability. When you think about it in that sense:
-There is a 1/40 chance GH chooses Beskar to be protected, and a 1/40 chance nationalists choose Beskar to be killed. For both of those to occur at the same time, it's a 1/1600 chance.
-There are at least 4 insurgents in the game. 2 of these are Japanese, the ones concerned with the leaking. There are roughly 10 people out of 40 who knew about the protection. The chance that a player is Japanese is 1/20, and the chance that that player was in the group of 10 is 1/20 X 1/4 = 1/80.
Of course, this is a real, live game. So probability is not always applicable - due to behaviors of individual players, certain among them are more high-profile (like Beskar) and therefore more or less likely to be chosen for certain actions. At the same time, there's a greater chance for insurgents to try to get themselves positioned as officers.
Any way you slice it, it's more likely that this was not just a coincidence.
Chaotix sounds like he's very concerned with protecting azathoth.
Not really. I would vote him if I got a scum vibe from him. I just thought it was kind of funny that Romanic still hasn't figured out what exactly happened there.
Winston Hughes
06-19-2010, 19:35
vote: taka
Though the case against Comrade taka is far from water-tight, his Neo-Trotskyite Bandwagonism leads me to question his ideological commitment.
Comrades Beefy and Autolycus, on the other hand, should be given a chance to prove themselves devoted soldiers of the Revolution.
And while Comrade Azathoth could use some self-criticism for his Pseudo-Revisionist Nose-Tweakery, his good humour in this time of struggle gives confidence for full rehabilitation.
johnhughthom
06-19-2010, 19:36
Vote: Winston Hughes.
seireikhaan
06-19-2010, 19:37
I was relocating to my next temporary location yesterday. As per the leak- I consider it highly unlikely. T'was the first night. If there was a hostile leak, it would 1) Be entirely too soon to act on it, 2) Raise potential alarms, and 3) Help extend the game when that is entirely not in the interests of hostile forces. Further, from the perspective of a Japanese/Nationalist, its an entirely sensible kill to see if any alarm can be raised against our glorious chairman.
Not really. I would vote him if I got a scum vibe from him. I just thought it was kind of funny that Romanic still hasn't figured out what exactly happened there.
Oh, now I get it! Sasaki misspelled Azathoth's name. :grin: He was not claiming lynch immunity. Meh.
unvote: Azathoth
GeneralHankerchief
06-19-2010, 19:48
Okay, briefly checking in since I haven't been on in a while and won't be on again for about 5 or so hours. I'll organize night activities when I get back.
@Renata: Because I didn't think anything of it at the time.
I would also prefer it if Beefy were lynched.
wideyedwanderer
06-19-2010, 19:52
Vote: a completely inoffensive name Reasoning: He wouldn't share his Wendy's fires with his gf. I would think a commie would be forced to share his food. :inquisitive: Also, I just don't know who else to vote for. Don't feel like bandwagoning beefy, and I don't want to vote for Azathoth because so far he's been the funniest person in the game:
Vote: Azathoth for Chairman! I'm not Japanese!
DO I LOOK JAPANESE TO YOU?
HUH? DO I?
LOOK AT MY FACE! ROOK AT IT!
:laugh4:
@Renata and Winston
So being the second person to vote for a particular player is called bandwaggoning?
heard of "3rd one on the bandwagon is usually the scummy one?" we'll im not 3rd thats for sure
I'm SURE theres a bigger bandwaggon than that on Autolycus
You two are deffinitely being edgy over someone who isn't even anywhere near being lynched
I'll be *watching* you two
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-19-2010, 19:56
Vote: a completely inoffensive name Reasoning: He wouldn't share his Wendy's fires with his gf. I would think a commie would be forced to share his food. :inquisitive: Also, I just don't know who else to vote for. Don't feel like bandwagoning beefy, and I don't want to vote for Azathoth because so far he's been the funniest person in the game:
:laugh4:
Vote: wideeyedwanderer
You want us to lynch an officer?? :tongue:
Neo-Trotskyite Bandwagonism
From the purely objective viewpoint of someone who enjoyed reading Prime Ministerial Decrees in Private Eye, I like this :bow:
Btw, there's about 1 hour until the deadline.
Huh, I didn't flee from my evil landlord just to be ordered around by a bunch of unelected kulaks.
Vote: ACIN
Only the uneducated mass can truly bring about a revolution, not some false Communists elevated to positions of authority.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-19-2010, 20:08
Huh, I didn't flee from my evil landlord just to be ordered around by a bunch of unelected kulaks.
Vote: ACIN
Only the uneducated mass can truly bring about a revolution, not some false Communists elevated to positions of authority.
...... Seriously, did you guys read who our officers are?
Double A
06-19-2010, 20:12
vote: shlin for not reading who our officers are... c'mon you're supposed to be voting him, not being him.
...... Seriously, did you guys read who our officers are?
I didn't read it... I, er, heard it from that guy over there. This is all too much for an illiterate peasant to handle :embarassed:
So... er... what did I miss?
Edit: Am I correct in saying that you guys misunderstood my post to mean "I am voting ACIN to select him as an officer"? I meant "I want to lynch him to bring about a socialist paradise".
Edit 2: That doesn't seem to be right either, am I missing something here?
Votes look stacked against Beefy right now.
There's an hour left. I would change my vote if I thought it would mean anything, but the only viable alternatives right now are ACIN and autolycus... who are both Officers. Sorry, Beefy.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 20:19
Azathoth should be lynched instead.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-19-2010, 20:22
Azathoth should be lynched instead.
Unvote: wideeyedwanderer, Vote: azathoth
this isn't an Org. Mafia game, so I guess I trust sasaki
I didn't read it... I, er, heard it from that guy over there. This is all too much for an illiterate peasant to handle :embarassed:
So... er... what did I miss?
Edit: Am I correct in saying that you guys misunderstood my post to mean "I am voting ACIN to select him as an officer"? I meant "I want to lynch him to bring about a socialist paradise".
Edit 2: That doesn't seem to be right either, am I missing something here?
I mean ACIN IS one of our officers.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 20:22
Prove it.
Unvote, Vote: Azathoth
Well, why not.
It won't make a difference unless you can get like 4 more votes, Sasaki.
Also, if Beefy survives then we have to kill him via protection soon.
I mean ACIN IS one of our officers.
Ah, so he really is one of the officers. Then what I said originally still stands.
I want to bring him down! :rifle:
Unvote, Vote: Azathoth
Well, why not.
It won't make a difference unless you can get like 4 more votes, Sasaki.
Also, if Beefy survives then we have to kill him via protection soon.
Hah, look who's not figuring what's happening now! You just put Azathoth ahead in the tally and you think Beefy is ahead by 4. :laugh4:
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 20:30
I actually think we're even. It depends on whether or not you count Sasaki's vote as valid.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-19-2010, 20:33
unvote, vote:Azathoth
:beam:
It's a mistake to lynch or vig claimed roles until we understand the setup better. It's also a very unlikely fake claim from mafia. No way beefy should be lynched.
Sasaki corrected, and Double A didn't unvote, so he's still on Azathoth.
Double A
06-19-2010, 20:41
Makes sense to me.
unvote: shlin, vote: Azathoth
fos: shlin
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 20:41
OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Have mercy!
Vote: Beefy
Vote: Beefy
Vote: Beefy
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 20:42
Makes sense to me.
unvote: shlin, vote: Azathoth
fos: shlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwS66EBUcY
seireikhaan
06-19-2010, 20:57
Vote: Chaotix
I have no preference for either Az or Beefy. Thus, I think it will be better to vote for whom I think is acting a hair off, in my opinion.
Deadline reached. Counting votes.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 21:09
JUST ONE MOMENT FELLOWS
Don't count me out yet!
Azathoth (Sasaki Kojiro, autolycus, Double A, Chaotix)
Beefy (Beskar, Seamus Fermanagh, Azathoth, ACIN)
:smug:
EDIT: Aw crap, Cultured Drizzt Fan, never mind.
Double A
06-19-2010, 21:10
Didn't Beefy vote you?
Vote: Beefy
EDIT: Blast, nvm - if I'm too late.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 21:48
Didn't Beefy vote you?
Vote: autolycus
To save my self.
Final Words:
Just before General Hankerchief finished tallying the results of the voting, Azathoth called an immediate assembly of all PEXDET members at the center of the encampment.
My fellow revolutionaries, I know I have been less than the ideal Communist. So I'm not going to employ ingenious rhetoric or make eloquent remonstrations to try to save my own life. I won't even use my final moments to warn you about my top suspects, because many of us have been responsible for ideologically unsound behavior, too many to consider such behavior a criterion for lynching, unless the nationalists and Japanese already outnumber the true Communists. I do have one piece of advice: apathy is death. Thusly do the condemnations of only five brothers, a mere tenth of our number, seal my fate. I am certain of my own innocence, and for years I have worked to towards the realization of Mao's ultimate goal, a perfect communist utopia. I still believe that such a thing is inevitable, as long as the contradiction that is the bourgeoisie-sustained class system continues to exist. My only regret is that I will not live to see it. But I digress. It may be that I was needlessly aggressive in my accusation of Comrade Beefy; I'd suspected him because of personal prejudices and briefly cast aside our common principles and doctrine to indulge that more primitive part of our minds. But the fact, the sheer fact, that....ugh...my greatest fear is that the reactionary elements among us will take advantage of your complacency. Please do not let this happen.
Long live our fairly elected Chairman!
Long live our dear Comrade Mao!
For the eternal Revolution!
Azathoth stepped down from the invisible podium and nodded to GH, who hesitantly stepped forward to take his place and, quite reluctantly, announced the results of the voting.
Seamus Fermanagh
06-19-2010, 22:04
I think I understand the swing towards aza'....which is acceptable. I'll have a good laugh if he proves to be unlynchable after all. We still need to resolve comrade Beefy. Beefy is certainly a "player." But is he a good communard?
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 22:05
I'll have a good laugh if he proves to be unlynchable after all.
Yes, I am.
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 22:07
I'll have a good laugh if he proves to be unlynchable after all.
Bah, I never claimed that.
Well, hopefully I can make it to Day 2 next time. :|
It is to be hoped that the world is in the last era of strife. The vast majority of human beings have already prepared or are preparing to fight a war that will bring justice to the oppressed people of the world. No matter how long this war may last, there is no doubt that it will be followed by an unprecedented epoch of peace The war that we are fighting today for the freedom of all human beings, and the independent, happy, and liberal China that we are fighting to establish will be a part of that new world order. A conception like this is difficult for the simple-minded militarist to grasp and it must therefore be carefully explained to him. – Mao Zedong on Guerrila Warfare
https://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2841/chinesecommunisttroopsm.jpg
The People’s Extraordinary Detachment had spent all day trudging along the narrow terraces that crisscrossed a huge expanse of rice paddies. Winding their way through the cracks in the mirrored surface, the discussion about who was guilty for the attack on Beskar yesterday. Beskar himself was very boastful, and his claims of martial prowess had inklings of hubris.
Two main possible culprits stood out, Beefy187 and Azathoth. Beefy had been caught saying something in Japanese, and the fury of the Communists nearly drove them to kill him on the spot. Beefy panicked, and claimed that it was just a phrase he had picked up in Japan whilst studying Marxism there, and that he really really was a dedicated Communist. So dedicated in fact, that he was prepared to die defending someone from the ravages of the Counter-Revolution. PEXDET was not really satisfied with this excuse, but their attention shifted to another, Azathoth. Azathoth was loud and pedantic, giving the illusion that he was invincible to the power of the revolution, when Sasaki Jojiro said his name wrong.
https://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4580/colourfortchinese.jpg
In the end, as the Socialists entered the town of Daozhen, Azathoth was narrowly chosen over Beefy187 to be the most likely culprit of last night’s attack. Azathoth seemed resigned to his rate. GeneralHankerchief stood before the Maoists and said:
“So it seems that we have decided Azathoth is a counter-revolutionary. Let this be a lesson to any other reactionaries who may lurk within us. This is your fate. ”
And with that, GeneralHankerchief immediately pulled his imitation Mauser out of his holster and shot Azathoth, once, twice, three times, in the chest, thigh and face. Azathoth fell to the floor with a strangled, inhuman noise. The guerrillas looked on glumly.
“That was necessary” muttered GeneralHankerchief. “ I shall investigate Azathoth's belongings, and within three days we shall have a confirmation as to his purpose among us, and whether that purpose was benign.But now onto the next order of business. Whilst staying in this admittedly grotty town, we have to decide on a policy towards peasants we will encounter on our journeys. On one hand, we need as much food as possible to survive, but official Party line is that we must treat the farmers with kindness, so as not to upset them and turn them away from the fruits of Marxism when our revolution is inevitably victorious. I shall delegate the discussion to you, ad I shall enforce any decision we all come to a consensus on.”
It is now the night phase. In this phase, there is an Incident. Please submit your ideas for policy in the form Propose:Blah blah blah and agree with proposals with Agree:Azathoth.
On a slightly different note, I’m going to allow the words “Nip”, “Jap” and variants upon, for the purposes of roleplaying. I’m guessing that the Chinese in this period used much stronger words than “Nippo” to describe the Japanese invaders. I don’t need to make it clear that any use of such words other than for RP will be dealt with.
This phase shall end in 23 hours at 21:00 GMT +1
Azathoth - 5 - Sasaki, CDF, Chaotix, autolycus, AA
Beefy - 4- Azathoth, Beskar, Seamus, ACIN
autolycus - 2 - Beefy, taka
taka - 2 - Renata, WH
ACIN - 2 - WEW, Shlin
Chaotix - 1 - Khaan
Psychonaut - 1 - DiY
Didn't vote: EVERYONE ELSE
Alive players: 39/40
ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Beefy187
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Sasaki
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Winston Hughes
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Lynched players 1/40
Azathoth
Killed Players 0/40
Azathoth
06-19-2010, 22:24
No tally for all the votes?
On a slightly different note, I’m going to allow the words “Nip”, “Jap” and variants upon, for the purposes of roleplaying. I’m guessing that the Chinese in this period used much stronger words than “Nippo” to describe the Japanese invaders. I don’t need to make it clear that any use of such words other than for RP will be dealt with.
Nippon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon) = Name of Japan in Japanese.
Nippo was simply Nippon without the n, as "Nippons" or "Nippeons" or "Nippowegians" to actually describe some one from Nippon sound quite right.
As far as I know, it isn't an insult in anyway.
Yes, I know that, but the way you were using it was (in-game) obviously derogatory.
Azathoth - 5 - Sasaki, CDF, Chaotix, autolycus, Shlin
Erm, I voted ACIN instead... (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128827-A-Bridge-Zhou-Far-Three-Stars-Rising-IN-PLAY&p=2509814&viewfull=1#post2509814)
autolycus
06-19-2010, 22:58
I propose the following
propose: That we require a donation from each farmer of a seventh of his crop to our worthy cause, and that we compensate the farmers of each town with an hour's service in their fields each morning before we continue onwards.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-19-2010, 23:08
Agree: autolycus
Such a course is the heart and soul of the revolution.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-19-2010, 23:14
Erm, I voted ACIN instead... (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128827-A-Bridge-Zhou-Far-Three-Stars-Rising-IN-PLAY&p=2509814&viewfull=1#post2509814)
I think he confused you and Double A :tongue:
Beefy187
06-19-2010, 23:23
I'm happy to die via vig/ protection tonight if you could tell me the target.
I've got a busy day today, but I should make it back before the deadline.
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