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Askthepizzaguy
11-22-2012, 17:02
Having conclusively proven that I was not killing anyone last night with my ineffective air attack on Andres, I request the Jade Katana, if for no other purpose than identifying its properties so we can know what it does before it ends up in the hands of its eventual owner.
Vote: Askthepizzaguy the Jade Katana
LazyMcCrow
11-22-2012, 17:43
Lazy, two days ago you were going to give the potions we were voting for to Visorslash, now you are voting for him, what changed? :inquisitive:
Since I extoled his townie virtues he hasn't said a word. I was nearly killed this week - and the write up shows that it was scum/sk that did it. Whoever attacked me knew I was weak and sensibly decided to finish me off. Visorslash is sensible. Therefore he is scum. Some call it extra-sensory perception, some call it elementary magic - ok so it's not cold hard logic, but you can't be blessed with it all.
vote:robbiecon stop lurking :whip:
Riedquat
11-22-2012, 18:17
Having conclusively proven that I was not killing anyone last night with my ineffective air attack on Andres, I request the Jade Katana, if for no other purpose than identifying its properties so we can know what it does before it ends up in the hands of its eventual owner.
Vote: Askthepizzaguy the Jade Katana
Ineffective? You left him severely beaten, you've been his co-killer... what I'm missing?
By the looks of it Andres was attacked three times, one weak air attack, one strong air attack and a fire attack. I guess ATPG is claiming responsibility for the first one, not sure how this is conclusive proof though...
Askthepizzaguy
11-22-2012, 19:03
I keep forgetting no one bothers to read either the writeups or my own posts, so I shouldn't really expect to receive the jade katana today, should I?
Riedquat
11-22-2012, 19:10
Reading and understanding them are not the same thing! :P
Askthepizzaguy
11-22-2012, 19:24
I don't see the point of moving your eyes over words if they're not registering in the brainal region.
Riedquat
11-22-2012, 19:46
I don't see the point of moving your eyes over words if they're not registering in the brainal region.
its called learning, you should try it some time ;)
Besides you also said this so my confusion is not so unjustifiable...
And now without further ado, I shall turn a perfectly normal human being into a lifeless corpse.
Ta-da! Magic!
You killed the only man with decent taste in this college! DAMN YOU ALL!
Askthepizzaguy
11-22-2012, 20:22
its called learning, you should try it some time ;)
*speechless*
...I'm pretty sure that's called "not learning"
Besides you also said this so my confusion is not so unjustifiable...
I don't see how this could be confusing. I said I'd turn a perfectly normal human being into a corpse. I attacked Andres and he died. How are those two things in any way related?
NinjaCow64
11-22-2012, 22:00
I don't see how this could be confusing. I said I'd turn a perfectly normal human being into a corpse. I attacked Andres and he died. How are those two things in any way related?
Wait, Andres is normal now? (Sorry, couldn't resist) :P
Askthepizzaguy
11-23-2012, 00:15
Wait, Andres is normal now? (Sorry, couldn't resist) :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk
seireikhaan
11-23-2012, 02:31
Vote: Askthepizzaguy the Jade Katana
I see no reason why not. As for votes, while I had my fun poking Alsark, I feel like there's a lurker in desperate need of a harsh wagon. My current hunch...
Vote: Kennigit
Show up, lodge a vote, leave. Half-hearted explanations. Show up, defend thineself.
Ignoramus
11-23-2012, 02:42
Vote: Ignoramus
Vote: Riedquat - you still haven't answered my initial query.
Vote: Askthepizzaguy
Katana: Chaotix
Vote me the katana and I'll take my vote off you. We both know who's the better swordsman here anyway.
Askthepizzaguy
11-23-2012, 02:55
Vote: Askthepizzaguy
Katana: Chaotix
Vote me the katana and I'll take my vote off you. We both know who's the better swordsman here anyway.
I believe the proper response here is: Bite me.
Vote: Askthepizzaguy the Jade Katana
I see no reason why not. As for votes, while I had my fun poking Alsark, I feel like there's a lurker in desperate need of a harsh wagon. My current hunch...
Vote: Kennigit
Show up, lodge a vote, leave. Half-hearted explanations. Show up, defend thineself.
:bow:
Vote: Kennigit.
You get more of what you want with honey than with vinegar, Chatoix.
White_eyes:D
11-23-2012, 03:16
Vote: Kennigit
Katana to: Chaotix Let's have some competitions for items for once...:pray:
I believe the proper response here is: Bite me.
:bow:
Vote: Kennigit.
You get more of what you want with honey than with vinegar, Chatoix.
Actually:
http://site.cleanairgardening.com/info/youll-catch-more-flies-with…vinegar.html
The only flaw with my logic is that you are more akin to a dirty sewer rat than a fruit fly, APTG.
NinjaCow64
11-23-2012, 05:10
Katana is better with Pizzaguy than Chaotix. I'm speaking from the netherworld here, I would know.
johnhughthom
11-23-2012, 12:27
Green jobbie to green pizza dude
Vote: Kennigit
Mid-day (almost) update
Tally:
Kennigit: Issaikhaan, ATPG, White Eyes, Johnhughtom
Visorslash: LazyMcCrow
Robbiecon: Elite Ferret
Riedquat: Ignoramus
ATPG: Chaotix
Item tally:
ATPG: ATPG, Issaikhaan, Johnhughtom
Chaotix: Chaotix, White Eyes
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
LazyMcCrow
I got home a week ago, and have been busy meeting up with people and going out places. I spent today painting and driving, so I've unable to hang around here much.
That said Vote: Ignoramus.
Vote: Chatoix for Katana
Vote: Abstain
Sorry, on vacation and don't have time to properly read and analyze this round.
LazyMcCrow
11-23-2012, 13:53
LazyMcCrow
I got home a week ago, and have been busy meeting up with people and going out places. I spent today painting and driving, so I've unable to hang around here much.
That said Vote: Ignoramus.
Vote: Chatoix for Katana
OK then. unvote: Vote: Kennigit
vote: Chaotix
Riedquat
11-23-2012, 14:10
Vote: Ignoramus
Vote: Riedquat
Nonono, you mixed up the colors! It is Vote: Ignoramus and Vote: Riedquat :yes:
you still haven't answered my initial query.
~:confused: What was your question?
Vote: Ignoramus and Vote: Chaotix
Kennigit
11-23-2012, 16:49
Vote: Askthepizzaguy the Jade Katana
I see no reason why not. As for votes, while I had my fun poking Alsark, I feel like there's a lurker in desperate need of a harsh wagon. My current hunch...
Vote: Kennigit
Show up, lodge a vote, leave. Half-hearted explanations. Show up, defend thineself.
I did plenty of defending myself from the fire attack on me yesterday!
which, don't know if you all forgot, but it certainly seems to me that fire attacks have been quite the choice-of-method for one of scum teams so far. Particularly with ninjacow dying so early, he couldn't have had many recruits to the pyromancers.
So unless you think there are a bunch of totally-townie players that decided "hey lets all go fire day 1" without being a part of that college, I'd kindly ask you to not lynch me.
I'd much rather vote: atpg, with the large "well look at me attack the guy who died, that proves me innocent. Totally!" Even if that WAS him, with 2 powerful attacks from possible teammates he could have attacked with his non-focus AV.
Kennigit
11-23-2012, 17:00
which, I will say this about atpg as well: he got attacked with the weakish water torrent that also attacked edse n1, him n2, and johnhughthom n3 (by the looks of it). At least, those respective water torrents don't seem to have done much, whereas I got a good little burn if not for my invested DV in fire after the first night.
so atpg's ONLY vague "proof" of innocence seems to be that he attacked a person who got murdered. legit to me.
I did plenty of defending myself from the fire attack on me yesterday!
which, don't know if you all forgot, but it certainly seems to me that fire attacks have been quite the choice-of-method for one of scum teams so far. Particularly with ninjacow dying so early, he couldn't have had many recruits to the pyromancers.
So unless you think there are a bunch of totally-townie players that decided "hey lets all go fire day 1" without being a part of that college, I'd kindly ask you to not lynch me.
Yes but the scum attacks are assumed to be very powerful, the attack on you just caused a blister so it could have been anyone. I also think it's fair to assume that the scum have high AVs in more than one element, or else the balance of the colleges would be distorted. So you can hardly claim it's a scum attack just because it's fire.
Still, you don't seem particularly scummy to me and I will always be suspicious of ATPG. However I am more concerned by all of this sudden unexplained support for Chaotix so
vote:ATPG
to keep it a two horse race.
Vote for Jade Katana: Chaotix, by the write-ups, I think he has more health. Besides, between the two, is like choosing whether to jump off a cliff or a skyscraper lol
I haven't seen much going on, as far as cases go: one blamed for showing up only to vote, but so is a good portion of the players and we are during festivities; the other I haven't even understood the case XD
Vote: Ignoramus, hoping to see some voting behaviour, with close candidates...
Gonna change it most likely, last thing we need is a tie with many players...
Askthepizzaguy
11-23-2012, 20:14
Leave it to mafia players to assume, when someone is too busy to be a mafia killer, they must be mafia.
Also: Give it to Chaotix, he has more health = stroke of genius. Because that totally proves something. Who knows what.
I just thought he could transfer it...
Plus, by the first write-up and his posts, he had high defense from the start, that seems more like a town power role, than mafia to me...
Besides you are the one that attacked someone who died XD
Ignoramus
11-23-2012, 23:35
LazyMcCrow
I got home a week ago, and have been busy meeting up with people and going out places. I spent today painting and driving, so I've unable to hang around here much.
That said Vote: Ignoramus.
Vote: Chatoix for Katana
Why your vendetta, Visor?
Vote: Abstain, away for the holiday, I'll be back Sunday.
robbiecon
11-24-2012, 18:02
Vote: Chaotix for the Katana
In relation to Elite Ferret's vote, I think it is fair enough. Yes, I have been reading the thread just not always posting.
I am more for an Ignoramus lynch rather than Kennigit, so Vote: Ignoramus
autolycus
11-24-2012, 18:13
VoteL Chaotix for the Katana
Vote: Ignoramus I am suspicious of the bandwagon on Kennigit, counterwagon for the win!
[COLOR="#008000"]I am more for an Ignoramus lynch rather than Kennigit, so [B]Vote: Ignoramus
I agree unvote, vote:Ignoramus
But tread carefully robbiecon, I'm watching you :clown:
Kennigit
11-24-2012, 18:34
yeah, chaotix katana
Ironside
11-24-2012, 18:48
Vote: Ignoramus
Best of the main choises imo.
Vote: Jade katana to ATPG. Feels quite ATPG townish to claim item right after attacking someone who died the same night.
Ironside
11-24-2012, 18:49
Vote: Jade katana to ATPG
Stupid color function.
El Barto
11-24-2012, 19:05
Katana for askthepizzaguy.
vote: lynch Kennigit.
vote: Abstain. Apologies but I haven't been on a computer since Wednesday and I probably wont again until Monday morning. Can't really follow things this phase and make an informed vote.
Updatew would be very bare-boned, I will update it later. sorry
Tally:
Ignoramus (8): Visorslash. Riedquat, Edse, Arjos, Robbiecon, Autolycus, Elite Ferret, Ironside
Kennigit (6): Issaikhaan, ATPG, White Eyes, Johnhughtom, LazyMcCrow, El Barto
ATPG (2): Chaotix, Kennigit
Riedquat: Ignoramus
Abstain: TinCow, Memnon, BSmith
Item tally:
Chaotix (10): Chaotix, White Eyes, Visorslash, LazyMcCrow, Edse, Arjos, Robbiecon, Autolycus, Kennigit, Ironside
ATPG (5): ATPG, Issaikhaan, Johnhughtom, Elite Ferret, El Barto,
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
Riedquat: Riedquat
Ignoramus was lynched. He was Master Ashero, (new) head of the College of Flames! He was innocent member of Academy
Chaotix get Jade Katana
At the body of Ignoramus Everburning torch was found. It was given to the College of Flames
Night 4 begins!
My apologies for being absent - I got caught up in a 3DS game called Zero's Escape: Virtue's Last Reward.
I have to admit, I am confused by Chaotix getting the Jade Katana. I can't really say that anything he has done stands out to me - but that said, he doesn't stand out to me as being town, either. Plus, the idea of it all starting off just for the simple reason of saying he wanted it, without much of any good reason at all, and then a ton of people agreeing with him, is a bit unsettling for me. Not a single person - not a single one, gave a good reason for Chaotix having the katana.
It seems I was probably attacked by Issaikhaan during the night, since it sounded like Issaikhaan and Andres were in the water college together, and I'd imagine if it were Andres who had attacked me I would have taken much more water damage than I had, considering he was the head of the water college.
So, Issaikhaan, care to admit that you attacked me? Is this all still just because you don't like me?
seireikhaan
11-25-2012, 03:56
My apologies for being absent - I got caught up in a 3DS game called Zero's Escape: Virtue's Last Reward.
I have to admit, I am confused by Chaotix getting the Jade Katana. I can't really say that anything he has done stands out to me - but that said, he doesn't stand out to me as being town, either. Plus, the idea of it all starting off just for the simple reason of saying he wanted it, without much of any good reason at all, and then a ton of people agreeing with him, is a bit unsettling for me. Not a single person - not a single one, gave a good reason for Chaotix having the katana.
It seems I was probably attacked by Issaikhaan during the night, since it sounded like Issaikhaan and Andres were in the water college together, and I'd imagine if it were Andres who had attacked me I would have taken much more water damage than I had, considering he was the head of the water college.
So, Issaikhaan, care to admit that you attacked me? Is this all still just because you don't like me?
Nah, I got better things to do at night than waste my time in trivialities. And if you honestly think I left Andres' name out as anything other than bait, then LOL.
So, seriously - I don't get it. Are we not supposed to be talking at night? Or why are we not using this time for discussion right now? It's like everyone on here is from Simon's Quest.
"What a horrible night to have a curse."
For starters, anybody mind explaining why you all voted Chaotix for the Jade Katana?
For starters, anybody mind explaining why you all voted Chaotix for the Jade Katana?
I suspect many of them are from the same college.
El Barto
11-25-2012, 22:27
My apologies for being absent - I got caught up in a 3DS game called Zero's Escape: Virtue's Last Reward.
It's lame when Double A posts that and it's lame when the others do as well.
Ignoramus
11-25-2012, 23:01
Hooray for College based band-wagons - you townies are going to lose big time at this rate!
NinjaCow64
11-26-2012, 00:33
Agreed. I mean seriously, did one college just recruit everyone turn one? Don't you know that will just let the scum into your group and sabotage the entire game for you?
It's lame when Double A posts that and it's lame when the others do as well.
Pfft... have you played it? Don't knock it 'til 'ya've tried it! And no, I am not one of those otaku visual novel addicts. I don't even watch anime, nor do I like visual novels; but the 999 series is different. I guess I like that mystery/suspense aspect in a game (hence my love of mafia).
El Barto
11-26-2012, 02:50
Hooray for College based band-wagons - you townies are going to lose big time at this rate!
How noice of you to mock us.
Pfft... have you played it? Don't knock it 'til 'ya've tried it! And no, I am not one of those otaku visual novel addicts. I don't even watch anime, nor do I like visual novels; but the 999 series is different. I guess I like that mystery/suspense aspect in a game (hence my love of mafia).
I'm engaging on a long-weekend justified archive binge on webcomics before exams start again next Friday. Be quiet.
NinjaCow64
11-26-2012, 03:32
I think El Barto was saying that it was lame when people post "Sorry I was inactive, too busy playing video games" no matter what kind of video game it was.
Askthepizzaguy
11-26-2012, 07:38
Notice: The College of Air appears to be completely free of scum.
I can also rule out at least one member of the College of Water.
I also understand I am being attacked tonight. If you want further information, you'll cease and desist.
Askthepizzaguy
11-26-2012, 09:06
Ok, so the habit of PMing people at the drop of the proverbial hat is hard to break.
I have broken the No PM rule by mistake. To rectify, I'm reposting it publicly:
I know you're attacking me tonight. Why? Because I'm a townie mason. Your moves are being leaked to me.
Now, you can proceed with the attack and kill me, a townie mason, or you can stop what you're doing.
Understand that if you proceed, my teammates have been instructed to reveal exactly who you all are, and why you're scummy.
As I am Air and you are water, you have absolutely no reason to be removing me. Now stop, or suffer from not only the stupidity of your actions, but also the wrath of the town, suspecting you of being scum.
This is not a request.
So that's nice. This won't blow back and bite me in the butt in the slightest now will it?
Also you guys should have given me the katana. Just saying.
Alright
Thank you ATPG for admitting you broken this communication rule. I hope that now it would be easier for all players to remember, that you can only communicate in this thread, and in qt's provided by host
Second thing: there would be no message about your current statistics tonight. Sorry but I have a lot of work now. I will send you this messages during day
Ok, so the habit of PMing people at the drop of the proverbial hat is hard to break.
I have broken the No PM rule by mistake. To rectify, I'm reposting it publicly:
I know you're attacking me tonight. Why? Because I'm a townie mason. Your moves are being leaked to me.
Now, you can proceed with the attack and kill me, a townie mason, or you can stop what you're doing.
Understand that if you proceed, my teammates have been instructed to reveal exactly who you all are, and why you're scummy.
As I am Air and you are water, you have absolutely no reason to be removing me. Now stop, or suffer from not only the stupidity of your actions, but also the wrath of the town, suspecting you of being scum.
This is not a request.
So that's nice. This won't blow back and bite me in the butt in the slightest now will it?
Also you guys should have given me the katana. Just saying.
You might as well just tell us who this is directed at at this point.
LazyMcCrow
11-26-2012, 15:31
Because some scum-hunting would be useful. To anyone organising vig attacks. I am no threat! I am simply an unaffiliated weakling who wishes to help track down the mafia. If anyone within your group is trying to put me forward as a target - they are more than likely scum.
Askthepizzaguy
11-26-2012, 15:51
You might as well just tell us who this is directed at at this point.
When morning rolls around, perhaps.
When morning rolls around, perhaps.
That'll be tough if you wake up dead. Also, how exactly do you know that the College of Air is free of scum? Are you claiming that the entire group are all mason buddies?
Ok, so the habit of PMing people at the drop of the proverbial hat is hard to break.
I have broken the No PM rule by mistake. To rectify, I'm reposting it publicly:
I know you're attacking me tonight. Why? Because I'm a townie mason. Your moves are being leaked to me.
Now, you can proceed with the attack and kill me, a townie mason, or you can stop what you're doing.
Understand that if you proceed, my teammates have been instructed to reveal exactly who you all are, and why you're scummy.
As I am Air and you are water, you have absolutely no reason to be removing me. Now stop, or suffer from not only the stupidity of your actions, but also the wrath of the town, suspecting you of being scum.
This is not a request.
So that's nice. This won't blow back and bite me in the butt in the slightest now will it?
Also you guys should have given me the katana. Just saying.
You must be mistaken.
We're not trying to kill you, AsktheFlyGuy, we just have this very nice bowl of vinegar we want to show you. Just come a little bit closer now so you can get a good look...
There are some news from our colleges. First, we greet new head of the College of Waves, Master Splashoopoole. Second, some attacks happened, as always. Fortunately, no one died this week. Third, we have found new, interesting item that we want to give to one of you.
ATPG's friend has warned him. He should be careful, someone was going to attack him! For the entire week ATPG was hiding under his plank bed. But he was attacked nonetheless. Pillar of water, looking almost like a man's silhouette, stormed his cell. Squirming and groaning, it went under ATPG's bed and battered him severly.
TinCow was doing TinCowish stuff in his cell when someone attacked him from hiding, almost catching him flat-footed. But, watchful as he was, he managed to flee under his bed, when large boulder was hurled inside, and only his buttocks (too large to hide) were hurted. Ouch, what a bruise!
Chaotix practiced stunts with his new weapon. He wanted to be ready for some serious fighting. And the fighting come earlier, than he supposed. Fireball caught him in the middle of the training mat, burning his clothes and body – fortunately, wounds were far from deadly.
But it was not the end. When Chaotix was tearing off remains of his clothes, wall of compressed air expanded from the door into his direction. Deafened by pressure of air, he could only watch blood oozing from his ears, eyes, and nose. He was now wounded pretty badly.
Well, it was not his lucky day for sure. When he regained his composure, he was attacked for a third time. This time, rain of pebbles hit his head and body, some of them really hard. Chaotix passed out, his life force severely depleted.
Kennigit was learning when a stalagmite shot up from his floor. His arm received long, bloody wound. Fortunately, attack ended after that
Riedquat was eating, when sudden blow of wind chilled him. He get a small frostbite at the back of his hand.
Issaikhaan was meditating when someone approached him from behind. 'Who's there?' Issaikhaan asked. But, instead of answer, attacker thred volley of sharpened crystals at him! 'That was rude', Issaikhaan observed. 'Now I have to teach you a lesson'. Reaching for his energies, Issaikhaan lifted hands over his head, and then, with a sudden motion of arms, threw all crystals right into attacker's face. Masked character, wounded severely by this counter-attack, decided to escape. Quickly.
Our archivists have found potent divination tool that can help us in searching for defilers. It is called “lenses of elemental vision”. Be warned, that only members of Elemental Colleges have enough knowledge to use this item properly
OOC: vote for Lenses of Elemental Vision in blue .
Day 5 begins!
Attacked Players:Alsark (n3)
Andres (n3, n3, n3)
Askthepizzaguy (n2, n4)
Chaotix (n1, n4, n4, n4)
Edse (n1)
Ignoramus (n3)
Issaikhaan (n4)
Johnhughtom (n3)
Kennigit (n3, n4)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1, n3, n3)
Montmorency (n1, n2, n2)
Riedquat (n4)
TinCow (n3, n4)
Visorslash (n2)
Xenoneb (n1, n2)
Living Players:
1. Captain Blackadder
2. Riedquat
3. Autolycus
4. LazyMcCrow
5. Chaotix
6.
7. Askthepizzaguy
8. Memnon
9. Arjos
10. Edse
11. BSmith
12.
13. Alsark
14. Ironside
15. Visorslash
16. Issaikhaan
17.
18. Tincow
19. Kennigit
20. White eyes:D
21. Xenoneb
22. Robbiecon
23. Ignoramus
24. Johnhughtom
25. El Barto
26. Elite Ferret
Dead Players
Montmorency (aeromancers)
NinjaCow (pyromancers)
Andres (hydromancers)
Askthepizzaguy
11-26-2012, 22:32
You must be mistaken.
We're not trying to kill you, AsktheFlyGuy, we just have this very nice bowl of vinegar we want to show you. Just come a little bit closer now so you can get a good look...
And stay dead.
Chaotix passed away, his life force severely depleted.
If Chaotix passed away, why is he still alive?
And stay dead.
I ain't dead, buddy.
Jarema's write-up says "passed away", but I'm pretty sure he meant "passed out".
You will also note that the Water College decided not to attack you. (I don't know who the attack on you was, but not one of our members despite the use of water)
So who looks like the bad guy now?
Vote: Askthepizzaguy
He lost his awareness (good word?) He was not longer aware of surrounding? Is it passed out? I'll edit it.
sorry for my english :)
You will also note that the Water College decided not to attack you. (I don't know who the attack on you was, but not one of our members despite the use of water)
If that's the case, it was probably an attempt to frame the Water College and incite strife.
I'd like to request that the entire town stop with all the probing attacks for at least a little while and instead put some effort into finding the scum. There will be plenty of time for us to eliminate our opponents later, but that really should be done after the scum are caught. If we try and obliterate each other now we'll just be handing them a win. Scum-hunting is difficult enough in a game like this with non-fatal attacks and lynchings and the major restrictions on out-of-thread communication. We stand the best chance if we keep to ourselves at night and focus on lynching with a decent number each day.
Askthepizzaguy
11-26-2012, 23:06
I ain't dead, buddy.
Jarema's write-up says "passed away", but I'm pretty sure he meant "passed out".
You will also note that the Water College decided not to attack you. (I don't know who the attack on you was, but not one of our members despite the use of water)
So who looks like the bad guy now?
Vote: Askthepizzaguy
You, because you're voting for the towniest player in the game.
Can't say you're scum, just unhelpful.
seireikhaan
11-26-2012, 23:50
Vote: issaikhaan for Lenses of Elemental Vision
Yeah, I'm claiming them. They're for a proper member of a college. Yes, I'm claiming that. You'll note my prowess in the writeup. TC properly noted that we have bigger issues than beating each other down. Like...
Vote: Arjos You've been too nice and quiet and unsuspicious... and haven't been attacked. Perfect canddiate for a mafioso.
Vote: issaikhaan for Lenses of Elemental Vision
Yeah, I'm claiming them. They're for a proper member of a college. Yes, I'm claiming that. You'll note my prowess in the writeup.
If you're claiming a Master, then I'm very disappointed that you didn't recruit me. I was your first fanboi.:furious3:
I believe my headmaster might be scum. Unfortunately he won't give us his name. So I ask you, TinCow, Ironside, Riedquat, Elite Ferret, Autolycus, what college are you a member of?
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 01:38
If you're claiming a Master, then I'm very disappointed that you didn't recruit me. I was your first fanboi.:furious3:
I tried. :inquisitive:
White_eyes:D
11-27-2012, 01:40
I tried. :inquisitive:
I wanted in too....~:mecry:
I believe my headmaster might be scum. Unfortunately he won't give us his name.
Unless your headmaster is a replacement, you are quite deluded:
4. Heads of colleges are guaranteed innocents – at least at the begining of the game.
So I ask you, TinCow, Ironside, Riedquat, Elite Ferret, Autolycus, what college are you a member of?
I am everywhere and nowhere. I am the terror that flaps in the night.
I tried. :inquisitive:
Clearly not fast enough.
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 01:45
Apparently night two is not fast enough? Hrmph.
Headmaster is a replacement, yes.
Vote: El Barto
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 01:47
Also, worth noting that just being in a college is no means of indicating guilt or innocence if they did not start in it. Then again, if other, sillier colleges went inviting willy-nilly without doing their homework, that's their problem when their operations all get completely undermined.
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 01:50
To be totally clear, Visor. Do you know if this person even started in the college?
To be totally clear, Visor. Do you know if this person even started in the college?
No idea, but he was in the college before I was and I was recruited night 1.
White_eyes:D
11-27-2012, 02:02
Vote:El Barto
I had to be sure of something but we did this in-house and he has to go.:mean:
Vote: issaikhaan for Lenses of Elemental Vision
I will still support the Great Khaan.:bow:
El Barto
11-27-2012, 02:21
I have to go because I'm a townie mason with Askthepizzatown, that's why? Why should I have not warned the only person whose innocence is proven to me beyond doubt?
Visorslash, you go on about the head of the College of Water. Why then vote me or Pizza?
NinjaCow64
11-27-2012, 02:23
No idea, but he was in the college before I was and I was recruited night 1.
Visor, that means he would be the other person and he would be guareenteed town. There's no way they're scum.
Also, be really suspicious of the Water College, as using mathematical induction I have worked out that they have probably recruited half the town. I won't say that I'm free from bias, but I still would think they were suspicious even if I wasn't a Pyromancer. I, for one, would kill Chaotix today, the scummy little water baby. Because I really trust ATPG. And when I say I really trust him, I REALLY trust him, if you get my drift.
White_eyes:D
11-27-2012, 02:37
ATPG has many masons in that case. I would advise the other School's to start house cleaning because it's likely you have at least one person loyal role-wise to ATPG.:book:
Edit: And no El Barto, you didn't even try and protest that Pizzaguy was innocent or that the attack was bad to do. You just ran to Pizzaguy and tattled on us...not cool and I can't trust someone who does things like that.
As you can see Pizzaguy was not even attacked and Chaotix is pretty-much-dead-already....it would be a crime not to be upset at you.
I'm confused. Is El Barto the replacement headmaster?
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 03:10
Alright, out with it. What's up with this masonry business? What's your alignment, outside of the town? What have you been doing at night?
El Barto
11-27-2012, 03:20
ATPG has many masons in that case. I would advise the other School's to start house cleaning because it's likely you have at least one person loyal role-wise to ATPG.:book:
Edit: And no El Barto, you didn't even try and protest that Pizzaguy was innocent or that the attack was bad to do. You just ran to Pizzaguy and tattled on us...not cool and I can't trust someone who does things like that.
As you can see Pizzaguy was not even attacked and Chaotix is pretty-much-dead-already....it would be a crime not to be upset at you.
I'd like to see unedited posts… but I'll answer anyway. How many times do I have to post that I'm in the middle of exams? I log in once or twice a day if I'm lucky. :wall:
I'm confused. Is El Barto the replacement headmaster?
No. Your reason for voting me being…?
El Barto
11-27-2012, 03:22
Alright, out with it. What's up with this masonry business? What's your alignment, outside of the town? What have you been doing at night?
Outside of the town?
Doing at night, nothing except study (standing orders, both in-game and IRL).
Faction, unaligned, unless this means what college. Much more I can't say.
Pretty much completely in agreeance with white eyes here.
Nice job on the pickup by the way white eyes.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 03:46
Visorslash and White_Eyes, this will go down as probably the most howlingly bad play you've ever made in a mafia game.
El Barto is my mason partner. He's water, I'm air. There are no other mason partners. I can't fathom what nonexistent logic is driving your play. So far, your silly little club has attacked me, and others of my college, after explicitly being warned both times that it was beyond unproductive.
It is impossible, utterly impossible, for either myself or El Barto to be scum, in this game, ever.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 03:47
ATPG has many masons in that case. I would advise the other School's to start house cleaning because it's likely you have at least one person loyal role-wise to ATPG.:book:
Edit: And no El Barto, you didn't even try and protest that Pizzaguy was innocent or that the attack was bad to do. You just ran to Pizzaguy and tattled on us...not cool and I can't trust someone who does things like that.
As you can see Pizzaguy was not even attacked and Chaotix is pretty-much-dead-already....it would be a crime not to be upset at you.
Nowhere in this post is anything resembling a rational thought. It's hard to be this wrong. Congratulations.
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 03:52
Right, and as masons, you can do... what, exactly? Share a qt? Attack together?
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 03:58
Alright, out with it. What's up with this masonry business? What's your alignment, outside of the town? What have you been doing at night?
I am responsible for precisely one Air-based attack which probably did a whole 1 point of damage, directed at Andres, ordered by my headmaster.
I have, to date, not used any of my experience points to raise any of my stats. My stats are probably the most pathetic stats out of anyone in the entire game.
This is the only time I've been visible in the writeup because I have done no other air attacks. Still, I am visibly there, visibly causing but a tiny point of damage, visibly not causing the kind of damage a mafioso would cause, and I'm also taking massive amounts of damage from a huge water attack that didn't come from the College of Water, or so they claim. Which would be a scum attack, boys and girls.
Other than this single attack, I have defended myself. Last night I was told to attack someone by my headmaster and I refused because I was being attacked. Had I done so, I would be dead right now.
Given the fact that I can be visibly seen acting as dangerously as a mosquito, given that I have visibly been attacked by scum, as unwittingly claimed by the College of Water man himself, Chaotix mah boy, who is daftly also voting me for some non-reason, given that myself and my mason partner have both claimed, I would say the following:
Town likes to shoot itself in the foot, but right now, this is a paradigm-shifting kind of fail. This is town managing to shove a shotgun up it's own butt and happily pull the trigger.
I for one am beyond caring what happens next, but I have my popcorn ready, and I am excited to have a front-row seat for this carnage about to unfold.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 03:58
Right, and as masons, you can do... what, exactly? Share a qt? Attack together?
We began as vanilla with zero powers, and have the frightening ability to talk to each other.
That's it.
Do you want to see the quicktopic? If it is legal, I will show everyone the quicktopic.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 04:05
I just double-checked the rules, and although quoting PMs is banned, private comms are banned, but there's nothing in the rules about not posting a quicktopic link.
Also, checked the quicktopic, and it says nothing in there either.
So unless Jarema personally tells me I can't post the link, it's useless anyway, and will go a long way toward establishing how hilariously bad the situation is.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 04:34
Right, and as masons, you can do... what, exactly? Share a qt? Attack together?
Apparently you've never heard of the 'mason' concept. We can communicate privately and we are each told at the beginning of the game that the other's an Innocent. Also that we are not allowed to join the same college/Element.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 04:50
Apparently you've never heard of the 'mason' concept. We can communicate privately and we are each told at the beginning of the game that the other's an Innocent. Also that we are not allowed to join the same college/Element.
Oh be nice, he's one of the few people making sense so far.
Masons can take different forms. It's not always cut and dried what mason entails or what they can do. We're of the "pathetic" variety.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 05:07
Pathetic is the bandwagon against us.
From what I read in the thread and in the Water College QuickTopic (please, all Colleges have one) I can say that Visorslash is being deliberately obtuse-->http://www.fiftychat.com/images/straw.png, and that White_eyes:D appears to engage in anti-ATPG crusades every once in a while.
So, anybody trying to make a sensible, logical case… please step through door number three.
P.S. I am being nice. But I'm not being noice. :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:17
Pathetic is the bandwagon against us.
From what I read in the thread and in the Water College QuickTopic (please, all Colleges have one) I can say that Visorslash is being deliberately obtuse-->http://www.fiftychat.com/images/straw.png, and that White_eyes:D appears to engage in anti-ATPG crusades every once in a while.
So, anybody trying to make a sensible, logical case… please step through door number three.
P.S. I am being nice. But I'm not being noice. :clown:
You know what's funny? I've determined at this point that issaikhaan is most likely the person in the game my entire college wants to eliminate, and he's like the only sane man in the game right now.
I think this is beautiful and poetic. Just so you know, mister khaan, I shan't be attacking you ever and at this rate, the Geodudes will most definitely prevail over the aeromancers, entirely due to moistened bints lobbing scimitars in our general direction.
Also regarding white eyes, I've told you once already (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142389-The-House-of-Origin-Concluded&p=2053487770&viewfull=1#post2053487770) what his deal is.
Unvote: Askthepizzaguy
I don't think you're guilty. I do want you to die, because you tried to kill me. That is just natural.
As your little buddy Mr. Barto can attest by the quicktopic, I never had any plans to join in the attack on you (which got dismantled anyway due to unsent orders), and yet you two decided I was still fair game for three attacks.
Revenge for the katana? If I am expected to be understanding about that, then you should understand me wanting to kill you back.
We are going to have a serious problem if you and your little in-club expect everyone else to just follow your lead because you all say you're innocent, and meanwhile you get to organize hits on whoever you like.
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 05:31
Once again, I urge everyone to take a look at people who haven't been attacked. I think Arjos is deserving of a bandwagon, but I don't have anything hard. We need to get rid of the distractions or we're going to get mowed.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:32
Unvote: Askthepizzaguy
I don't think you're guilty. I do want you to die, because you tried to kill me. That is just natural.
As your little buddy Mr. Barto can attest by the quicktopic, I never had any plans to join in the attack on you (which got dismantled anyway due to unsent orders), and yet you two decided I was still fair game for three attacks.
Revenge for the katana? If I am expected to be understanding about that, then you should understand me wanting to kill you back.
We are going to have a serious problem if you and your little in-club expect everyone else to just follow your lead because you all say you're innocent, and meanwhile you get to organize hits on whoever you like.
Maybe I am having a brain fart. When did I try to kill you?
I want to state categorically, no one in the college of Air has attacked you and, again, my attack on Andres, upon further re-read, didn't even cause a *single* point of damage.
To date, there isn't a single person in this game I've killed or even damaged.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 05:34
Geodude, Pizza? WTF? Squirtle will evolve into Blastoise before a Geodude is allowed to gain power.
Unvote: Askthepizzaguy
I don't think you're guilty. I do want you to die, because you tried to kill me. That is just natural.
As your little buddy Mr. Barto can attest by the quicktopic, I never had any plans to join in the attack on you (which got dismantled anyway due to unsent orders), and yet you two decided I was still fair game for three attacks.
Revenge for the katana? If I am expected to be understanding about that, then you should understand me wanting to kill you back.
We are going to have a serious problem if you and your little in-club expect everyone else to just follow your lead because you all say you're innocent, and meanwhile you get to organize hits on whoever you like.
I never said that you wanted to attack Pizza. That's why Visorslash's insistence on me 'outing everyone' seems too overdone. The 'in-club' is, well, just Pizza and me.
Once again, I urge everyone to take a look at people who haven't been attacked. I think Arjos is deserving of a bandwagon, but I don't have anything hard. We need to get rid of the distractions or we're going to get mowed.
Nothing hard, but what do you have that is soft?
Maybe I am having a brain fart. When did I try to kill you?
Never, either.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:37
Also, revenge for the katana? What?
Seriously? I don't even know what it does. And it clearly doesn't do much for your defenses. You can have it. I bet if I had it, I'd be really, super dead right now.
unvote whoever
vote khaan the thingy that he wanted
vote Arjos for the death.
Maybe I am having a brain fart. When did I try to kill you?
I want to state categorically, no one in the college of Air has attacked you and, again, my attack on Andres, upon further re-read, didn't even cause a *single* point of damage.
To date, there isn't a single person in this game I've killed or even damaged.
You're going to tell me the three attacks on me were not in any way coordinated by you?
You just taunted me about being dead for the lulz? (which is believable, but not how I originally interpreted it)
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:39
Oh yes, and I've also organized precisely zero things this game. I am being the college of air's headmaster's buttmonkey. I have lead no one to do anything.
Chaotix-man, where are you getting your information?
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:41
You're going to tell me the three attacks on me were not in any way coordinated by you?
You can't be serious.
How could I coordinate such a thing Chaotix? Those were obviously scum attacks. And the sole reason I'm not voting you this round.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 05:43
Also, Chaotix, if I were really a cheat I'd've disclosed the stats of your sword that you so carelessly posted in a QT…
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:50
Going to the writeups.
ATPG's friend has warned him. He should be careful, someone was going to attack him! For the entire week ATPG was hiding under his plank bed. But he was attacked nonetheless. Pillar of water, looking almost like a man's silhouette, stormed his cell. Squirming and groaning, it went under ATPG's bed and battered him severly.
This was a scum attack due to the severity of the damage. I can tell you, especially since the College of Water denies responsibility.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
TinCow was doing TinCowish stuff in his cell when someone attacked him from hiding, almost catching him flat-footed. But, watchful as he was, he managed to flee under his bed, when large boulder was hurled inside, and only his buttocks (too large to hide) were hurted. Ouch, what a bruise!
I think I know who did this one and it wasn't a scumbag, methinks.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Chaotix practiced stunts with his new weapon. He wanted to be ready for some serious fighting. And the fighting come earlier, than he supposed. Fireball caught him in the middle of the training mat, burning his clothes and body – fortunately, wounds were far from deadly.
I think whoever the current fire dude is did this. They can't be very powerful.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
But it was not the end. When Chaotix was tearing off remains of his clothes, wall of compressed air expanded from the door into his direction. Deafened by pressure of air, he could only watch blood oozing from his ears, eyes, and nose. He was now wounded pretty badly.
This is a scum attack, so far as I know. The College of Air hasn't claimed responsibility for the attack. No one besides the headmaster could have done it, AFAIK, and I think he was doing other things. Correct me if I am wrong.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Well, it was not his lucky day for sure. When he regained his composure, he was attacked for a third time. This time, rain of pebbles hit his head and body, some of them really hard. Chaotix passed out, his life force severely depleted.
Seems like a townie did this one.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Kennigit was learning when a stalagmite shot up from his floor. His arm received long, bloody wound. Fortunately, attack ended after that
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Riedquat was eating, when sudden blow of wind chilled him. He get a small frostbite at the back of his hand.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Issaikhaan was meditating when someone approached him from behind. 'Who's there?' Issaikhaan asked. But, instead of answer, attacker thred volley of sharpened crystals at him! 'That was rude', Issaikhaan observed. 'Now I have to teach you a lesson'. Reaching for his energies, Issaikhaan lifted hands over his head, and then, with a sudden motion of arms, threw all crystals right into attacker's face. Masked character, wounded severely by this counter-attack, decided to escape. Quickly.
These things seem like town-inspired attacks. Kennigit's one is a little murky though.
A lot of this damage is self-inflicted. But the scum are clearly targeting myself and Chaotix, I thought that was pretty clear from the writeup but no one is paying attention to it?
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 05:54
Also, what's cute about it is that the scum attacks are water and air, and weren't caused by folks in either college, apparently. So both colleges have claimed.
I believe the scum are deliberately trying to make those two colleges hate each other. And it's working on my end.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 05:58
…Or there could be people able to use their colleges' abilities individually, in secret.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 06:03
…Or there could be people able to use their colleges' abilities individually, in secret.
I proposed several days ago that the folks who are scum are most likely able to use powerful attacks of any given element, and therefore, will likely use attacks that do not match the particular college they are in.
College of Air quicktopic post 68-
Why do you believe the "wind user scum" is in the College of Air?
My guess would be the scums are not only much more powerful than us, but could use multiple kinds of magic, and therefore wouldn't be bound by a college.
It would be remarkably simplistic to solve this game if the scum were using attacks that matched their college. But at the time, someone who shall remain nameless believed that the wind user scumbag was in our college.
That just seemed obviously wrong to me. Anyone else?
Damn ATPG, from the looks of it you are probably right. And it worked pretty well, too.
I was thinking it would be really odd for scum to attack both you and me since it would seemingly clear us both of being scum - I knew the attack on you had to be scum but the quantity of hits on me suggested it would be something organized...
Still, it doesn't explain the earth and fire attacks on me.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 06:20
Why not? If the baddies can copy other people's elements, then why not? That is, of course, that everyone in said colleges is an Innocent…
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 06:24
I will confirm the attack on Kennegit came from my college.
Vote: Arjos
If you think he is lurky enough to be scum, I guess I can go with that today.
Elemental Lens Thing: Visorslash
No way am I giving this thing to the high-ranking earth dude. I got attacked with earth too, and it did substantial damage in spite of my own high earth defense (you can see me reflecting an earth attack in an earlier writeup). If we are assuming there were only two scum attacks... it would have had to come from an earth college member.
Got anything else your college wants to take responsibility for, khaan?
El Barto
11-27-2012, 06:42
Really, Chaotix? vote the item to the very guy pointed out as being inordinately obtuse, who started the ball rolling and is now lurking the thread laughing his arse off at us?
Gah.
You're right, I've been looking at him through a blue-colored lens.
Unvote, Vote: white_eyes
This one is overly paranoid, but not scummy. In short I don't want it going to khaan and I don't want it going to Fire and I don't want it going to either of you two just yet. Beyond that I don't really care. I would take it myself but I am probably going to die.
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 06:55
Vote: Arjos
If you think he is lurky enough to be scum, I guess I can go with that today.
Elemental Lens Thing: Visorslash
No way am I giving this thing to the high-ranking earth dude. I got attacked with earth too, and it did substantial damage in spite of my own high earth defense (you can see me reflecting an earth attack in an earlier writeup). If we are assuming there were only two scum attacks... it would have had to come from an earth college member.
Got anything else your college wants to take responsibility for, khaan?
Nope. Like I said, my college is run responsibly, so I have tabs on its members.
RULE ADDENDUM:
You cannot share your quicktopic link or give anyone access to your quicktopic. Only host can provide access to the quicktopic.
it was always meant to be that way, I just overlooked it (and I was almost sure it is in the rules already)
Ironside
11-27-2012, 11:31
Vote: Arjos
We got self-proclaimed members of earth, wind, water voting for him and I don't think fire would vote for their own headmaster. So very heavy odds of him being unguilded.
Anybody has been trying to recruit him?
Chaotix got attacked by the old air/earth scum pair (who started out as earth/fire) and ATPG got attacked by the single fire guy who switched to water (since the fire guy is missing). There, wasn't too hard to figure out.
Ignoramus
11-27-2012, 11:45
We at the College of Fire didn't haven't the internal battles you lot had - you should see our QT. :laugh4:
Vote: Issaikhaan for the lens
Vote: Arjos for death
vote: Arjos
Bandwagon away! Though I notice that robbiecon is still lurking. His last post was in defence of me voting him for lurking, then he dissapeared again... Worth bearing in mind :yes:
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 13:14
Damn ATPG, from the looks of it you are probably right. And it worked pretty well, too.
I was thinking it would be really odd for scum to attack both you and me since it would seemingly clear us both of being scum - I knew the attack on you had to be scum but the quantity of hits on me suggested it would be something organized...
Still, it doesn't explain the earth and fire attacks on me.
At this point, I think it would be a grand idea for folks to begin claiming their attacks.
If a scumbag goes as far as to claim their own attack, that would be useful to someone who knows they are not in the proper college to be doing that attack.
Further, if we can write people off as townies or observed members of a college, it will narrow down the pool of "more suspicious than the others" quite a bit.
@ ALL
I would ask anyone who has not claimed their attack to do so, or at least have a representative of your college claim every attack in the game so far.
Remember: FROM THE RULES, THERE IS MORE THAN ONE SCUM TEAM. THIS WILL BE HARD TO SOLVE IF WE ARE JUST TRYING TO OBLITERATE EACH OTHER.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 13:15
vote: Arjos
Bandwagon away! Though I notice that robbiecon is still lurking. His last post was in defence of me voting him for lurking, then he dissapeared again... Worth bearing in mind :yes:
Typical of robbiecon, actually. He's in no way cleared but that info tells you nada.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 13:19
Chaotix got attacked by the old air/earth scum pair (who started out as earth/fire) and ATPG got attacked by the single fire guy who switched to water (since the fire guy is missing). There, wasn't too hard to figure out.
Wait, what?
I'm back, going to reply to the recent posts.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 13:43
I'm back, going to reply to the recent posts.
You're a bad man for attacking Chaotix. You've got the poor lad so confused and wounded that he wanted to vote you items.
I haven't seen him that confused since either Diana or myself were the ones yanking his chain.
Congrats for joining the club, but still, as a scumbag, you must die. Only when you flip scum will Chaotix be cured of his disease.
Visor, that means he would be the other person and he would be guareenteed town. There's no way they're scum.
Also, be really suspicious of the Water College, as using mathematical induction I have worked out that they have probably recruited half the town. I won't say that I'm free from bias, but I still would think they were suspicious even if I wasn't a Pyromancer. I, for one, would kill Chaotix today, the scummy little water baby. Because I really trust ATPG. And when I say I really trust him, I REALLY trust him, if you get my drift.
Not sure how they're guarenteed scum, OP says they are at the start, not throughout, and I'm not entirely sure of the workings. Your maths is appalling. And please stop insinuating stuff when you're dead. "I can't say anything cause I'm dead but lynch x?" Please use in thread reasoning.
Outside of the town?
Doing at night, nothing except study (standing orders, both in-game and IRL).
Faction, unaligned, unless this means what college. Much more I can't say.Again, the unaligned part, elaborate.
Visorslash and White_Eyes, this will go down as probably the most howlingly bad play you've ever made in a mafia game.
El Barto is my mason partner. He's water, I'm air. There are no other mason partners. I can't fathom what nonexistent logic is driving your play. So far, your silly little club has attacked me, and others of my college, after explicitly being warned both times that it was beyond unproductive.
It is impossible, utterly impossible, for either myself or El Barto to be scum, in this game, ever.
We haven't attacked you. You set up your own demise, all you had to do was get Takhisis to say that ATPG was his mason, and attack averted, lynch averted, and you didn't have to be outed. You guys messed it up, and that is what set us up.
Pathetic is the bandwagon against us.
From what I read in the thread and in the Water College QuickTopic (please, all Colleges have one) I can say that Visorslash is being deliberately obtuse-->http://www.fiftychat.com/images/straw.png, and that White_eyes:D appears to engage in anti-ATPG crusades every once in a while.
So, anybody trying to make a sensible, logical case… please step through door number three.
P.S. I am being nice. But I'm not being noice. :clown:
This isn't an anti ATPG crusade and it is based on some kind of logic. I don't like moles, and neither I assume does White Eyes.
Once again, I urge everyone to take a look at people who haven't been attacked. I think Arjos is deserving of a bandwagon, but I don't have anything hard. We need to get rid of the distractions or we're going to get mowed.
Yeah this is a good idea. Ignore the distractions of college and focus on elimination of mafia.
Also, Chaotix, if I were really a cheat I'd've disclosed the stats of your sword that you so carelessly posted in a QT…
Not carelessly, and it helps us in the future if he dies.
Vote: White Eyes the lens
You're a bad man for attacking Chaotix. You've got the poor lad so confused and wounded that he wanted to vote you items.
I haven't seen him that confused since either Diana or myself were the ones yanking his chain.
Congrats for joining the club, but still, as a scumbag, you must die. Only when you flip scum will Chaotix be cured of his disease.
Yeah rightio Pizzaguy. Since when do I undertake ridiculous crusades of freedom and justice as mafia? :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 13:54
Yeah rightio Pizzaguy. Since when do I undertake ridiculous crusades of freedom and justice as mafia? :clown:
I promise you that when you die and flip scum, which will be very shortly, I will not give you a Nelsonian "Ha ha".
I will plant a bunch of flowers on your grave, out of respect for you.... and grin maniacally as their roots eventually consume nutrients that came from your remains.
I promise you that when you die and flip scum, which will be very shortly, I will not give you a Nelsonian "Ha ha".
I will plant a bunch of flowers on your grave, out of respect for you.... and grin maniacally as their roots eventually consume nutrients that came from your remains.
You just keep on keepin on.
Anyway, Unvote; Vote: Arjos
Something that people don't seem to realise, you can attack with any element regardless of what college you are from. Headmasters and scum have strong attacks.
I think I attacked either Alsark or Igno last night phase.
Now we're getting somewhere.
Vote: Arjos
Elemental Lens: TinCow
The powerful should share the wealth with those less well-endowed than themselves.
LazyMcCrow
11-27-2012, 14:12
vote: Arjos
vote: khaan
I was invited on N2 to the air college, but I started with 0,1 for that element, so I declined it, hoping to get invited in something better for me...
Unfortunately it never happened again :(
Been studying ever since...
Vote: issaikhaan for Lenses of Elemental Vision
Vote: robbiecon, as ATPG pointed out, he's pretty much in his silent killer mode...
Ironside
11-27-2012, 14:30
Wait, what?
I'm refering to what element they use to attack, not whatever college they're in.
We can call the scum mr. elemental (since it seems to be a person consisting of the element) and team sandstorm (earth and air mix) if you like.
vote for the elemental lens: TinCow
I agree with the item distribution. Khaan has enough already, if the mafia kill him they could end up with all of them (not sure what happens to items when people die) which cannot be a good thing or the town would end up losing all of them.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 14:42
I'm refering to what element they use to attack, not whatever college they're in.
We can call the scum mr. elemental (since it seems to be a person consisting of the element) and team sandstorm (earth and air mix) if you like.
Okay, I thought I was reading inside knowledge of who the opposing scum members were, but I also did a double take because I don't believe you'd post something so silly even accidentally.
I needed clarification though because I was puzzling what you did mean.
Unvote: Arjos
I think it's unlikely that scum would decline a college invitation.
Vote: Kennigit
What's your story?
Riedquat
11-27-2012, 15:57
Wait, wait... I need to read it all! :wall:
El Barto
11-27-2012, 17:37
Vote: White_eyes:D for the whatchamacallitan lens, as per College orders.
Gah.
You're right, I've been looking at him through a blue-colored lens.
Unvote, Vote: white_eyes
This one is overly paranoid, but not scummy. In short I don't want it going to khaan and I don't want it going to Fire and I don't want it going to either of you two just yet. Beyond that I don't really care. I would take it myself but I am probably going to die.
Nobody wants it to go to fire or the Pokémons.
We at the College of Fire didn't haven't the internal battles you lot had - you should see our QT. :laugh4:
You're dead, aren't you? hush.
vote: Arjos
Bandwagon away! Though I notice that robbiecon is still lurking. His last post was in defence of me voting him for lurking, then he dissapeared again... Worth bearing in mind :yes:
Hanging a lampshade on your own bandwagonning? :no:
Again, the unaligned part, elaborate.
You really are being obtuse. At the beginning of the game, it read: "Faction: unaligned". I suppose that now it's changed alignment to the Water faction.
We haven't attacked you. You set up your own demise, all you had to do was get Takhisis to say that ATPG was his mason, and attack averted, lynch averted, and you didn't have to be outed. You guys messed it up, and that is what set us up.
I… really don't follow…
This isn't an anti ATPG crusade and it is based on some kind of logic. I don't like moles, and neither I assume does White Eyes.
a) what logic?
b) what mole? I keep insisting I'm not being a mole for anyone, since we're not even a faction as such.
Not carelessly, and it helps us in the future if he dies.
Oooh really.
Unvote: Arjos
I think it's unlikely that scum would decline a college invitation.
Vote: Kennigit
What's your story?
It's unlikely that most people would decline a college invitation, unless they're really crappy in that particular element.
Wait, wait... I need to read it all! :wall:
:creep:
[B][COLOR="#0000FF"]not sure what happens to items when people die
answer (at least partial) is in the rules
You really are being obtuse. At the beginning of the game, it read: "Faction: unaligned". I suppose that now it's changed alignment to the Water faction.
To any who don't believe this, read the first post. Those that were not in a college or scum at the start got Faction: unaligned in their role PM.
Edit: Thank you Jarema, I have just re-read them. At least the mafia won't get all of Khaan's stuff when he dies then.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2012, 17:49
I think its amusing people didn't read their own starting role PMs.
I did that much and I was insanely busy at the time.
El Barto
11-27-2012, 18:09
:wall:
Riedquat
11-27-2012, 19:03
So.... who interrupted my dinner? That was rude! :stare:
Now Vote the thing: White_eyes:D and Vote: Arjos for the lynch
Derp. That should be:
vote: Arjos
vote: TinCow
autolycus
11-27-2012, 20:10
Vote:Issaikhaan He's all but claimed Earth Master with no contradiction, and we've had no turnover in that post.
Vote; arjos
seireikhaan
11-27-2012, 20:34
If TinCow desires the lenses, that would be acceptable as well. :bow:
White_eyes:D
11-27-2012, 20:48
Unvote:El Barto Vote: Arjos
I still think the lens would be better with Khaan...he is still a confirmed innocent. I feel sad he distrusts me so though...:shame:
If TinCow desires the lenses, that would be acceptable as well. :bow:
Awww... shucks. :flowers:
Lynch
12 Arjos: issaikhaan, Askthepizzaguy, Chaotix, Ironside, edse, Elite Ferret, Visorslash, LazyMcCrow, Riedquat, BSmith, autolycus, White_eyes:D
1 robbiecon: Arjos
1 Kennigit: TinCow
8 No Vote: Captain Blackadder, Memnon, Alsark, Kennigit, Xenoneb, Robbiecon, Johnhughtom, El Barto
Lens
7 issaikhaan: issaikhaan, White_eyes:D, Askthepizzaguy, edse, LazyMcCrow, Arjos, autolycus
4 White_eyes:D: Chaotix, Visorslash, El Barto, Riedquat
3 TinCow: TinCow, Elite Ferret, BSmith
White_eyes:D
11-27-2012, 20:54
Unvote:Khaan Vote:White_eyes
On second thought...he is a guildmaster and I am sure he can take care of himself.:bow:
"Lenses of Elemental Vision" sounds like it is some kind of scanning device, probably scanning for the elemental alignment of a player.
NinjaCow64
11-27-2012, 21:38
We can call the scum mr. elemental (since it seems to be a person consisting of the element) and team sandstorm (earth and air mix) if you like.
Team Sandstorm sounds like a villain from Pokemon. Just saying.
Not sure how they're guarenteed scum, OP says they are at the start, not throughout, and I'm not entirely sure of the workings. Your maths is appalling. And please stop insinuating stuff when you're dead. "I can't say anything cause I'm dead but lynch x?" Please use in thread reasoning.
Wait, where did I say that anyone was guarenteed scum? I think the most I said was that the water college probably has a quite a few scumbags in it, that's all.
So you think there might be some sort of recruitment mechanic? Or something to do with corruption? If its the latter than I hope that no one was silly enough to get too corrupted. If it was the former then we're probably all screwed anyway. :laugh4:
When I said half the town, I was exaggerating. But noted from various factors, we believe that the water college recruited lots of people. Way too many people for their own good.
And I would use in thread reasoning against people if I could, but I can't. It's as simple as that.
Kennigit
11-28-2012, 00:57
I'll vote: arjos and vote: khaan.
if it is all the colleges who are attacking me, it'd be nice to idk, have a friendly chat. And not through an attack form
Due to lot of questions about it, I officialy respond here:
It is possible to raise stats - HP, corruption, all AV's and DV's during day phase. And it is in the rules!
I just sent stats update.
And then I realised, I did not include XP for last night actions. So, if you were doing anything else than defending last night (and you were not roleblocked), you have one more XP
Lynch Tally (thanks, Edse)
Arjos (13): issaikhaan, Askthepizzaguy, Chaotix, Ironside, edse, Elite Ferret, Visorslash, LazyMcCrow, Riedquat, BSmith, autolycus, White_eyes:D, Kennigit
robbiecon (1): Arjos
Kennigit: TinCow
No Vote (7): Captain Blackadder, Memnon, Alsark, Xenoneb, Robbiecon, Johnhughtom, El Barto
Lens of Elemental Vision
Issaikhaan (7): Issaikhaan, Askthepizzaguy, Edse, LazyMcCrow, Arjos, Autolycus, Kennigit
White_eyes (5):: Chaotix, Visorslash, El Barto, Riedquat, White_eyes:D
TinCow (3): TinCow, Elite Ferret, BSmith
Voting for item is enough to get xp for this day phase.
Are we going to get a role reveal on Arjos?
day not ended yet... it was just a tally
day ends more than 5 hours from now
Lynch Tally
Arjos (13): issaikhaan, Askthepizzaguy, Chaotix, Ironside, edse, Elite Ferret, Visorslash, LazyMcCrow, Riedquat, BSmith, autolycus, White_eyes:D, Kennigit
robbiecon: Arjos
Kennigit: TinCow
No Vote (7): Captain Blackadder, Memnon, Alsark, Xenoneb, Robbiecon, Johnhughtom, El Barto
Lens of Elemental Vision
Issaikhaan (7): Issaikhaan, Askthepizzaguy, Edse, LazyMcCrow, Arjos, Autolycus, Kennigit
White_eyes (5):: Chaotix, Visorslash, El Barto, Riedquat, White_eyes:D
TinCow (3): TinCow, Elite Ferret, BSmith
Voting for item is enough to get xp for this day phase.
During five Void Day, members of Academy decided to lynch Arjos. More than a dozen of them voted for this solution. At the end of evening, they stood up and started to barrage Arjos with elemental forces.
But Arjos had other plans. He yelled something incomprehensible and waived his hands. His silhouette seemed to grow. He started to appear as if he was built from molten lava and basalt slabs. Bolts of sickly green energy burstled from his fingers. 'Stupid good-doers! I will eradicate you!' he shouted.
Fortunately, one of the scribes sitting behind him smashed his head with a clay tablet. Arjos body hit the ground and turned into clouds of dark mist.
Arjos was cult seer. He was member of the Defilers! He didn't belong to any of the Colleges.
On the body of Arjos Dagger of Corruption was found. Authorities decided to bury it with his corpse.
Lens of Elemental Vision goes to Issaikhaan
Week 5 begins! ; Week 5 has ended!
seireikhaan
11-28-2012, 22:40
:cool:
Askthepizzaguy
11-28-2012, 22:43
Khaan, the lens is a gesture of goodwill from one Aeromancer to a Geomancer. Please use it wisely. I wouldn't have voted it to you if I intended to harm you anytime soon.
Beat them scumbags down, and help point us in the correct direction regarding who must live and who must die.
seireikhaan
11-28-2012, 22:45
No worries, I'll be putting it to good use.
Eh, I feel like an idiot. Again.
seireikhaan
11-28-2012, 23:18
TinCow - I've decided you will be able to make better use of the lenses than I. If you would like them, feel free to shoot our gracious host a pm to accept it.
Ironside
11-28-2012, 23:38
Team Sandstorm sounds like a villain from Pokemon. Just saying.
Thematic name that's not really classy or subtile, yet not taunting. Perfect fit when I'm still alive and not cheering for them. I could go with the super awesome names if you want to. ~;p
For deeper stuff, they are usually using air and earth and kills people. Air -> heaven, earth -> earth or hell. So some sort of divine theme with (possibly corrupt) death involved. Requiemers?
We'll see tonight if it's them or mr elemental that needs a name change anyway. Good catch today!
Should have caught Arjos earlier really, voting me in day 1 was very scummy behaviour :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
11-29-2012, 00:11
TinCow - I've decided you will be able to make better use of the lenses than I. If you would like them, feel free to shoot our gracious host a pm to accept it.
Note: The item won't transfer until end of round, so you need to use the item tonight at the bare minimum. Neither Tincow nor anyone else can make use of it tonight.
Item transfers and XP usage, etc, must be done during the day phase to be of much use.
Welp, good call khaan.
Perhaps you rockheads aren't so dumb after all. :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
11-29-2012, 02:15
I note that the instant we stopped playing the My College Is Better Than Yours game, and began acting like a town again, a scumbag died.
Cue heartwarming music from the end of a Very Special episode of mafia, where we learned the meaning of cooperation.
D'awwwwww.
NinjaCow64
11-29-2012, 02:51
Thematic name that's not really classy or subtile, yet not taunting. Perfect fit when I'm still alive and not cheering for them. I could go with the super awesome names if you want to. ~;p
I like Pokemon team names though! They're great!
Oh, man, have I gotten far behind... especially in Exp, lol. Maybe I should just start voting at the start of the day so I at least have a vote somewhere.
I note that the instant we stopped playing the My College Is Better Than Yours game, and began acting like a town again, a scumbag died.
I'm still surprised that he refused a college invitation. I thought the whole setup of the game was that recruits should be the subject of paranoia because they'd be infested with scum which were hard to root out internally. Maybe there's some other mechanism at work that makes it advantageous for them not to join under certain circumstances.
El Barto
11-29-2012, 04:01
I note that the instant we stopped playing the My College Is Better Than Yours game, and began acting like a town again, a scumbag died.
Cue heartwarming music from the end of a Very Special episode of mafia, where we learned the meaning of cooperation.
D'awwwwww.
Yeah, some anvils need to be dropped in this anvilicious game.
I like Pokemon team names though! They're great!
Yeah, we be da wartortlz!
NinjaCow64
11-29-2012, 06:56
Fools! Team Plazma Fire will win all the games!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25xgod3BmA
Askthepizzaguy
11-29-2012, 10:14
I'm still surprised that he refused a college invitation. I thought the whole setup of the game was that recruits should be the subject of paranoia because they'd be infested with scum which were hard to root out internally. Maybe there's some other mechanism at work that makes it advantageous for them not to join under certain circumstances.
At this point, given that we've cleared the Aeromancer team as being scum-free, it would be pretty advantageous for people to join colleges if they haven't already.
Our team at this point is nearly masonic given that status. Although members can become corrupt, they are presently not.
My guess is that, due to the fact that we can request our members attack certain targets, tying them up for the night, that prevents them from doing scum-related behaviors. And also, outs them as having much larger AVs than they otherwise should have. If you're vastly powerful with air, then asking you to do air attacks reveals that.
Hence, the Air-using scumbag cannot be in the college of Air. And since all our membership was visible elsewhere during the other scum attacks, there's strong evidence that we cannot be those.
Folks who do not join colleges at this point must be viewed with extreme scrutiny. The masons were able to freely join with no ill effect. There's no excuse.
Askthepizzaguy
11-29-2012, 10:23
Khaan, I would request you scrutinize your own membership. I believe the air-using scum is actually hiding among the Geomancers. If they are in a college.
They will still likely have had enough points in geo magic to be recruitable to your side, and further, they wouldn't then go about using geomancy to attack people as it would point back to them.
For scum to blend in, during this game, they will need to be either not in a college at all, like Arjos, or using cross-college magic to hide their identity.
I can confirm that there is no way the air user scum has been attacking from within the Aeromancy college. There's also strong evidence that the water using scum cannot be a member either, because we are visible elsewhere.
You alone can cross off your own members as suspects because you know what everyone was doing, and you're a known townie. You should do what you can to eliminate suspects from your ranks, not only by tracking where people were, but also scanning those who have no alibi.
The water faction also likely has a scumbag in them, simply due to the sheer odds. They seem to be a rather big group, it would be easy for scums to have infiltrated them and gone undetected given their methodology so far.
At this point, given that we've cleared the Aeromancer team as being scum-free, it would be pretty advantageous for people to join colleges if they haven't already.
Our team at this point is nearly masonic given that status. Although members can become corrupt, they are presently not.
My guess is that, due to the fact that we can request our members attack certain targets, tying them up for the night, that prevents them from doing scum-related behaviors. And also, outs them as having much larger AVs than they otherwise should have. If you're vastly powerful with air, then asking you to do air attacks reveals that.
Hence, the Air-using scumbag cannot be in the college of Air. And since all our membership was visible elsewhere during the other scum attacks, there's strong evidence that we cannot be those.
Folks who do not join colleges at this point must be viewed with extreme scrutiny. The masons were able to freely join with no ill effect. There's no excuse.
Not necessarily true. You need to be more careful about that... if your college members are getting a discount for their Air AV, that's where a lot of their XP will go. So high and even mid-ranking members will have unusually high air attack in general. And it goes the other way too - a scum in your college (at the beginning) might have strong AV in other elements but a weak AV in Air at the start. For a scum to have stellar attack values in all elements seems a bit overpowered.
We also don't know quite how corruption factors into it. The rules state that the scum can use corruption-based attacks, which is also consistent with the fact that Arjos had the "Dagger of Corruption" on him when he died. That certainly doesn't sound like a nice thing to me. However, all attacks so far show up as elemental attacks of some kind. Or, at least, if there's been a corruption-based attack visible in the write-up I've overlooked it. So, that might mean that corruption just empowers the element chosen for the attack. If so, it's possible that scum could launch a strong attack with any element of their choosing.
seireikhaan
11-29-2012, 20:21
Khaan, I would request you scrutinize your own membership. I believe the air-using scum is actually hiding among the Geomancers. If they are in a college.
They will still likely have had enough points in geo magic to be recruitable to your side, and further, they wouldn't then go about using geomancy to attack people as it would point back to them.
For scum to blend in, during this game, they will need to be either not in a college at all, like Arjos, or using cross-college magic to hide their identity.
I can confirm that there is no way the air user scum has been attacking from within the Aeromancy college. There's also strong evidence that the water using scum cannot be a member either, because we are visible elsewhere.
You alone can cross off your own members as suspects because you know what everyone was doing, and you're a known townie. You should do what you can to eliminate suspects from your ranks, not only by tracking where people were, but also scanning those who have no alibi.
The water faction also likely has a scumbag in them, simply due to the sheer odds. They seem to be a rather big group, it would be easy for scums to have infiltrated them and gone undetected given their methodology so far.
Believe me, it's already done, Pizza. I am 98% certain that my school is free of scum. There is one alternative scenario where the 2% would be true, and if it is, we're already boned anyways.
Also, based off of that lovely shield I was given, my impression is that corruption essentially magnifies AV's.
Askthepizzaguy
11-29-2012, 22:06
That's correct.
In fact, as I am town and will always be, I had suggested to my team that I should increase my own corruption deliberately to massively boost my attack value.
This was decided against, mostly because it is too expensive.
White_eyes:D
11-30-2012, 02:27
I think I just saw a first for the Org...I have NEVER seen all of town come together like this to lynch scum by 10+ votes and be right. I am now going to go and honor the graves of all the innocent townies who died by relentless bandwagons and place some flowers.:bow:
Good job everyone.~:cheers:
Edit:I also need to eat my word's, when I said town would never come together to lynch someone by 6 plus votes.:shame:
Ironside
11-30-2012, 09:50
I like Pokemon team names though! They're great!
Pokemon is one of those that it's hard to guess if someone likes the names or not.
We have three informations today. Two about attacks, and one about new item.
Issaikhaan was expecting attacks. And he was not dissapointed.
First, column of flame erupted right before him. But fire couldn't penetrate his magical defenses.
Second day, someone tried to attack him with hurricane. But wind was unable to hurt him too.
At the last day of week, earth attack happened. Cloaked figure conjured gigantic mound of sand. When mound almost covered Khaan, attacker asked: 'How dare you to call yourself Master of earth?'. Issaikhaan tried to fight, fought to breath. Finally, he managed to excavate himself. He was wounded, rather not very seriously, but it was not a scratch either.
Dear Lady of Void, 'Khaan was surely glad that protective spells were cast on him this week.
Quite contrary, Xenoneb did not expect attack. He was quite busy. Sleeping, that is. Even direct hit of ice bolt did not wake him.
One of you will get Spectral Hand today.
From the note attached to it :'to be honest, I do not know how this item could be useful to anybody. The only thing it allows is stealing other item, and it only works once! But you asked me to send all magic items I found. Maybe someone will think about good use for it'
OOC: vote for Lenses of Elemental Vision in purple.
Day 6 begins!
Attacked Players:Alsark (n3)
Andres (n3, n3, n3)
Askthepizzaguy (n2, n4)
Chaotix (n1, n4, n4, n4)
Edse (n1)
Ignoramus (n3)
Issaikhaan (n4, n5, n5, n5)
Johnhughtom (n3)
Kennigit (n3, n4)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1, n3, n3)
Montmorency (n1, n2, n2)
Riedquat (n4)
TinCow (n3, n4)
Visorslash (n2)
Xenoneb (n1, n2, n5)
Looks like 'khaan rattled a few nerves.
Askthepizzaguy
11-30-2012, 23:58
Let me see, known innocent incorruptible with a detective device who just helped eliminate a scum.
I wonder how he knew an attack was coming? Clearly our scumbags are not very imaginative.
White_eyes:D
12-01-2012, 00:21
At least we narrowed it down. Pretty high-risk to all attack the same target when he was expecting it though. I feel it's like having a plan to assassinate the President of the United States even though you know secret service have a copy of the plans.:laugh4:
Vote:Kennigit
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 00:30
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR GOD
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 00:36
Also of note, I believe this absolves my college of scum- we discussed our plan quite ahead of time in quicktopic.
Also of note, I believe this absolves my college of scum- we discussed our plan quite ahead of time in quicktopic.
Noted. :bow:
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 01:10
So, down to actual business. I'm quite surprised the scum went so hard for me. Three powerful attacks in one night was admittingly one more than I expected to get. Quite funny nonetheless.
Vote: Bsmith
He is the best lead I've gotten yet. He bears corruption, and his strongest element is air, which appeared in the writeup. I don't know if his corruption is necessarily high enough that he is scum for sure, but it's the best lead I've gotten. His thread behavior reinforces my belief here- he's made a whole lot of harmless votes, between a long-after-meaningful bandwagon on NinjaCow, a non-vote, and an abstain.
As well, I think I've established myself as someone trustworthy enough for this stealing item. Anything this strong should be given to someone who won't abuse it.
vote: issaikhaan for spectral hand
BSmith hasn't been very active anywhere (he's busy), and corruption isn't an indicator of scum (I started off with some naturally, due to my role.)
I'm happy to vote for him, but I'm not sold.
Vote: Riedquat
White_eyes:D
12-01-2012, 03:03
Unvote:Kennigit Vote:Bsmith
There is really only one item to steal of any worth, and it is only good for offensive actions as far as I am told. Would you really need a steal item?
Unvote:Kennigit Vote:Bsmith
There is really only one item to steal of any worth, and it is only good for offensive actions as far as I am told. Would you really need a steal item?
I bet the scumbags have an item. You might also be able to steal the college item.
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 03:08
Unvote:Kennigit Vote:Bsmith
There is really only one item to steal of any worth, and it is only good for offensive actions as far as I am told. Would you really need a steal item?
No, I don't need to steal, and that's basically the whole point. I am proven innocent with no motive to steal something actually valuable away from someone else. This way we can make sure a scum doesn't get it.
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 03:10
BSmith hasn't been very active anywhere (he's busy), and corruption isn't an indicator of scum (I started off with some naturally, due to my role.)
I'm happy to vote for him, but I'm not sold.
Vote: Riedquat
Also, out with it. What role? Why did you start with corruption? You can't just say something like that and expect me to not be curious. Corruption is something scum have- however, as you noted, it is not a guarantee of guilt. But I, as of now, do not know anyone town-oriented who actually does possess corruption.
White_eyes:D
12-01-2012, 03:10
I bet the scumbags have an item. You might also be able to steal the college item.
Then the Spectral Hand is sold to Khaan.:bow:
Also, out with it. What role? Why did you start with corruption? You can't just say something like that and expect me to not be curious. Corruption is something scum have- however, as you noted, it is not a guarantee of guilt. But I, as of now, do not know anyone town-oriented who actually does possess corruption.
I'm a "North Man". Anyone who has a similar or the same role as me can confirm.
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 03:20
Aaaaaand... that means what, exactly?
Aaaaaand... that means what, exactly?
My role has 1 corruption due to fighting orc bands. That's it.
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 03:28
My impression on Bsmith is that he has more than just a single point lodged in it.
Also, your role claim is both incredibly vague and infuriatingly possible, while being almost passable as a thin-reed cover for being Mafia... ugh.
My impression on Bsmith is that he has more than just a single point lodged in it.
Also, your role claim is both incredibly vague and infuriatingly possible, while being almost passable as a thin-reed cover for being Mafia... ugh.
Can't quote host PMs, and that is as much information as I can (probably) share. I'm sure someone else would have this role. There might even be a south/west/east man/woman role as well.
White_eyes:D
12-01-2012, 03:34
I trust Visor because on the one night he was active, I am pretty sure they were attacking two targets....our water master and Lazy.:book:
My impression on Bsmith is that he has more than just a single point lodged in it.
Any information on how much over one point? BSmith hasn't been attacked, so he shouldn't have gained corruption that way. He was involved in the NinjaCow lynch, so he should have gained one corruption point there, but there's nothing else I can see that would have given him more than one point in corruption.
Also, your role claim is both incredibly vague and infuriatingly possible, while being almost passable as a thin-reed cover for being Mafia... ugh.
Indeed, though we now have claims of both Masons and 'Northmen,' while Arjos didn't try to claim anything special. I need to do a re-read on the Arjos lynch phase and see who jumped in on that vote after the tipping point had been reached, but that will have to wait until tomorrow.
seireikhaan
12-01-2012, 05:28
Any information on how much over one point? BSmith hasn't been attacked, so he shouldn't have gained corruption that way. He was involved in the NinjaCow lynch, so he should have gained one corruption point there, but there's nothing else I can see that would have given him more than one point in corruption.
Indeed, though we now have claims of both Masons and 'Northmen,' while Arjos didn't try to claim anything special. I need to do a re-read on the Arjos lynch phase and see who jumped in on that vote after the tipping point had been reached, but that will have to wait until tomorrow.
Upon doing a quick re-read, I'll confirm his score is somewhere around 3-4.
Askthepizzaguy
12-01-2012, 07:07
Weighing in-
The masons are called "Easterlings" and as such I believe we are from the East.
I believe it is possible Jarema included roles which are from a specific compass direction. note: I do NOT believe there is an additional mason group on the West. No mention is made of one and two mason groups is overpowered.
I will consider the possibility only if a group of two steps forward and gives me a believable story.
I can confirm that BSmith has no business being particularly powerful with Air if he's inactive. He's not a member of our college. So why would he raise his Air values if he's not paying close attention?
I believe Khaan's worth giving his second suspect in a row the lynch.
Vote: Bsmith
Not that I like to just go with the flow or anything, but this lynch, like the last one, seems already set in stone.
Vote: BSmith
So long as issaikhaan remains credible as a scum-hunting innocent, I've really got no reason to oppose his lynch candidate.
Vote: BSmith Strong on Air and not in the Air College? Good lynch.
3-4 doesn't sound like mafia levels of corruption to me, but it certainly shouldn't be that high if he was town either. I'm gonna hold off and wait to hear what he has to say first.
As a placeholder: vote:robbiecon for still lurking.
But unless BSmith has a very believable defence I shall join the bandwaggon. :charge:
Having just re-read the rules again it appears that could be enough corrpution for a mafia player, especially as they haven't actually killed anyone yet.
unvote, vote:BSmith
But I would like to know how you know his strongest element is air? And also whether you know how strong it is?
BSmith jumped on the Arjos bandwagon after it was already huge, and didn't provide any reasoning. Entirely plausible scum vote for a doomed partner.
Vote: BSmith
Spectral Hand: 'khaan
Riedquat
12-01-2012, 18:23
BSmith hasn't been very active anywhere (he's busy), and corruption isn't an indicator of scum (I started off with some naturally, due to my role.)
I'm happy to vote for him, but I'm not sold.
Vote: Riedquat
And better vote for the poor and little Riedquat? :stare:
I do not understand much of anything in this game but this thing about your role and starting with corruption sounds a bit odd, more if we add the fact you think out there is another northmen who you don't know, Atpg and El Barto started with a quicktopic of their own to chat about the weather and you started with corruption and a missing partner? Really? :inquisitive:
Btw, Atpg, El Barto, any of you started with corruption?
Any information on how much over one point? BSmith hasn't been attacked, so he shouldn't have gained corruption that way. He was involved in the NinjaCow lynch, so he should have gained one corruption point there, but there's nothing else I can see that would have given him more than one point in corruption.
Talking of odd things, BSmith hasn't been attacked, so he shouldn't have gained corruption that way I'm sorry, what?? I've been attacked and I didn't gain any corruption...
He was involved in the NinjaCow lynch, so he should have gained one corruption point there :inquisitive: Again, what?? Mafia gains corruption by lynching innocents? From where comes this?
Riedquat
12-01-2012, 18:29
BSmith jumped on the Arjos bandwagon after it was already huge, and didn't provide any reasoning. Entirely plausible scum vote for a doomed partner.
Vote: BSmith
Spectral Hand: 'khaan
Color formating ;)
Vote: BSmith
Vote Spectral khaan to Hand
:laugh4:
LazyMcCrow
12-01-2012, 19:00
I got two points of corruption by drinking those potions.
vote: BSmith
Vote Khaan
baaa-aaaa-aa
sorry to tell you that, but I will have absolutely no free time tommorow. Day extended by 12 hours (maybe more...)
Talking of odd things, BSmith hasn't been attacked, so he shouldn't have gained corruption that way I'm sorry, what?? I've been attacked and I didn't gain any corruption...
He was involved in the NinjaCow lynch, so he should have gained one corruption point there :inquisitive: Again, what?? Mafia gains corruption by lynching innocents? From where comes this?
I have gained corruption through an attack, where the description said that the wound 'festered'. This was in addition to the damage it did. I also gained corruption following the lynch of NinjaCow, on the basis that killing an innocent was a burden for my soul. I assumed that's how it worked for everyone.
I find it rather odd that you claim not to have gotten any corruption from lynching NinjaCow, since you did indeed vote for his death. That indicates to me that you're not a normal role.
Unvote; Vote: Riedquat
Riedquat
12-01-2012, 21:41
I have gained corruption through an attack, where the description said that the wound 'festered'. This was in addition to the damage it did. I also gained corruption following the lynch of NinjaCow, on the basis that killing an innocent was a burden for my soul. I assumed that's how it worked for everyone.
I find it rather odd that you claim not to have gotten any corruption from lynching NinjaCow, since you did indeed vote for his death. That indicates to me that you're not a normal role.
Unvote; Vote: Riedquat
Lol... are you sure of what are you saying? Please somebody confirm this, I voted for Ignoramus too, following that logic I should have corruption for that lynch too? Well, I didn't get any!
Sure, I'm down for this.
Vote: Bsmith
Spectral Hand: Khaan
Lol... are you sure of what are you saying? Please somebody confirm this, I voted for Ignoramus too, following that logic I should have corruption for that lynch too? Well, I didn't get any!
I also received a point of corruption for the lynch on NinjaCow, so either Jarema forgot to pm you or you don't have a normal role. I'd be inclined to believe the latter.
I assume the reason I got corruption for the NinjaCow lynch and not the Ignoramus one is because NinjaCow was a college head from the start, making him a guaranteed innocent.
Lol... are you sure of what are you saying? Please somebody confirm this, I voted for Ignoramus too, following that logic I should have corruption for that lynch too? Well, I didn't get any!
Yeah, I'm the same as Riedquat, my corruption hasn't changed on the lynch of Igno (or ninja?)
Maybe it depends on how much corruption you had before the lynch? And that lynching innocents can't push you above one corruption?
Maybe it depends on how much corruption you had before the lynch? And that lynching innocents can't push you above one corruption?
No idea. Anyway Unvote; Vote: BSmith
Yeah, I'm the same as Riedquat, my corruption hasn't changed on the lynch of Igno (or ninja?)
You didn't vote for Ninja when he got lynched. :stare:
You didn't vote for Ninja when he got lynched. :stare:
But I did vote on Igno's lynch.
Kennigit
12-02-2012, 04:20
vote bsmith
so i'm really starting to question what the scum are up to; clearly one of the scums decided to go for khaan but with just 1 other non-khaan attack the other scum must have a simple entirely different focus.
lenses khaan
But I did vote on Igno's lynch.
Which proves what?
Ironside
12-02-2012, 11:04
Vote: Bsmith
Vote Spectral khaan to Hand
I got 3 lynch votes and got corruption for the first (killing a human is a burden for the soul, etc). So unless Jarema has forgotten to give me more, you either only gain 1 corruption or can only go from 0 -> 1 through lynchings. Or lynching scum counts different.
That would be for the theory that 1 lynch -> 1 corruption, 2 more lynches -> 2 corruption, 3 more lynches -> 3 corruption etc. It doesn't seem to work that way.
0-1 sounds correct. Something you're not saying Riedquat?
Unvote; Vote: BSmith (In case I am not already, can't remember)
johnhughthom
12-02-2012, 14:27
Vote: BSmith
Stuffz to khaan
I got 3 lynch votes and got corruption for the first (killing a human is a burden for the soul, etc). So unless Jarema has forgotten to give me more, you either only gain 1 corruption or can only go from 0 -> 1 through lynchings. Or lynching scum counts different.
That's the same with me. One corruption for my first wrong lynch (NinjaCow) but none for my second (Ignoramus). However, note that not only does Riedquat claim to have not gained corruption, he also appears to be claiming he started with 0 corruption:
I do not understand much of anything in this game but this thing about your role and starting with corruption sounds a bit odd, more if we add the fact you think out there is another northmen who you don't know, Atpg and El Barto started with a quicktopic of their own to chat about the weather and you started with corruption and a missing partner? Really? :inquisitive:
Btw, Atpg, El Barto, any of you started with corruption?
Kennigit
12-02-2012, 19:24
Also of note, I believe this absolves my college of scum- we discussed our plan quite ahead of time in quicktopic.
I admit I haven't been following the details of this game super close and am catching up mostly now, but I don't follow that or how in the past you said you are "98% certain" or whatever.
There are at least 2 scum factions and it seems certainly one of them doesn't have the goal to simply kill everyone around. In addition, I'm quite happy in asserting that the scum will happily go along with "let's not follow our VC of eliminating another college and simply stay alive guiz, this peace treaty is da best!". The scum can easily have items that make them scale faster than a townie (i.e. gain more XP or corruption), and giving more time before starting the college war disproportionately helps the scum.
Now obviously protecting you worked tonight and is all good, but considering all the attacks have been stacked on you last night (quite clearly scum oriented), what are all the people in other colleges doing besides explicitly going against what the rule says is the VC (i.e. why is there this armistice) and the scum happy in not killing anyone? Last night literally nothing happened, and I as a unaligned person I don't want to just give the scum a free pass to live as long as they fake act with their college.
I declined my random water college invite very early on n3 because I didn't want to go to a college where I had 0 AV and bother to spend the XP to raise that AV to go then kill other townies of the opposite college (pyromancer, I assume). I would rather spend that XP on DV and health as a unaligned, which payed off a tiny bit in a fire AV attack and certainly getting more and more health didn't hurt when mr. khaan's friends attacked me.
But I get confused when Mr water tincow (right, if I read things correctly?)
You killed the only man [head of waves] with decent taste in this college! DAMN YOU ALL!
If that's the case, it was probably an attempt to frame the Water College and incite strife.
I'd like to request that the entire town stop with all the probing attacks for at least a little while and instead put some effort into finding the scum. There will be plenty of time for us to eliminate our opponents later, but that really should be done after the scum are caught. If we try and obliterate each other now we'll just be handing them a win. Scum-hunting is difficult enough in a game like this with non-fatal attacks and lynchings and the major restrictions on out-of-thread communication. We stand the best chance if we keep to ourselves at night and focus on lynching with a decent number each day.
goes around calling the head of the fire college a "wrong" lynch. Even if there is desire for a peace treaty, surely a little benefit like that is encouraging for when people finally have to break the little feel-good non-aggression pact.
I know that many (khaan, atpg, tincow, etc) seem to be asking for the colleges to take a pause from killing people and 'focus' on scum, but from my memory there has been almost no indication of the coordinated/"Devastating" 3 or more person attacks from people-from-the-same-college that actually indicates any real effort to do damage. There never was a college war to begin with, and I can imagine the scum even pushing forward for such a little peace treaty and kill people like me.
I don't see why a bunch of college educated folks in atpg's air or the geodudes, etc are not following their VCs (as I understand it from the rules, not being a part of a college myself) and people affiliated with those colleges attacking clearly unaligned people i.e. me, if you recall:
I will confirm the attack on Kennegit [sic] came from my college.
but they don't work together (i.e. my attack was not enough damage to be a coordinated attack). I know atpg had the touchy feely good of "look at how the colleges worked together to get a scum! isn't that grrrrrreeeeeaaaattt!" when clearly there are scum amongst the colleges who aren't even that interested in killing people, and everyone else is doing half hearted 1 person attacks on people like me. Is everyone honestly that confident their college will be the final one standing?
i.e. I see almost nothing about the colleges being cleared of scums because with the colleges having a fake little temporary armistice, the scum will just go along with that armistice. This little "we'll 'clear' everyone in our college then kill noncollegites" is just going to get a person like me killed, while doing nothing to final scum. I don't want THAT to happen, since I want all the scum gone and not just purge out my own college of scum then cowboy on up to kill an enemy college.
This bsmith air business while not being air college makes sense, and that seems like a good case to me, but I'm quite worried about the delay in real scum hunting. For all we know the scum want to do some sort of timed vc, or were generating like +1 corruption a night with a little magic dagger or whatever and will reach some uber powerful super corrupt state where the town won't bring them down.
honestly I actually just don't know what the VC is for them is and at least 1 scums being quite content to sit around and not attack worries me, and such silly discussions about starting corruption is quite vain as the majority of living players started out "vanilla" with the scum amongst them, i.e. the scum would be mostly indistinguishable from the vanillas. Particularly since clearly some scum don't care about having an AV of 5 o 6 or whatever to kill, and some townies will start with 1 corruption.
tl;dr: the armistice will reach a nonprogress point that I believe is right now, kills time for the scum that could be getting stronger OR more importantly don't even have an eliminate victory condition, encourages people to invest in AV rather than DV for the final war and make it easier for the high AV scum to hide, and hypothetically I treat "anyone not following the town VC is going for a different VC" and that's kind of the whole principle of the armistice. You'll kill unaligned perfectly content townies like myself while 'clear' your own college, people who only got a single water college invite forever ago and didn't want to have a 0 av college, while the scum could work towards a non elimination VC or scale differently than townies
So let me get this straight, you're saying that the colleges should all kill each other in case there are scum hiding in them, just so that unaligned townies won't be attacked? Seriously?
So far one person outside a college has been killed. That person was scum. There are at least three more scum still attacking, the college leaders seem to have a close eye on their members' night actions. Therefore I feel there is a fair chance of these three remaining scum being in the 'unaligned' category. Why would we ignore them?
If you're so scared of being collateral damage then you ought to accept any invitations that come your way from now on. There is no disadvantage whatsoever to having low stats in the element of your college, so if you're innocent you have nothing to lose.
White_eyes:D
12-02-2012, 20:21
The reason the unaligned scum are done for if they didn't join a college is....you get MUCH cheaper upgrades for that element. There is no reason not to join one, if you didn't, your gonna die a sad death.:no:
Edit: I suspect the reason the scum didn't join a college, might have been to avoid the faction wars they suspected that would result. I think this truce is throwing them off big time.:grin2:
I know that many (khaan, atpg, tincow, etc) seem to be asking for the colleges to take a pause from killing people and 'focus' on scum, but from my memory there has been almost no indication of the coordinated/"Devastating" 3 or more person attacks from people-from-the-same-college that actually indicates any real effort to do damage. There never was a college war to begin with, and I can imagine the scum even pushing forward for such a little peace treaty and kill people like me.
I called for an end to the probing attacks, I never claimed we were involved in all-out war. Probing attacks themselves don't do much damage on their own, but cumulatively they can start to hurt. My request was partially selfish, as I had been on the receiving end of two in a row at the time I made the request. In any case, your argument is ridiculous. College in-fighting weakens the town due to hp attrition. Scum don't get automatic kills in this game, and even unprotected people can survive scum attacks if they are sufficiently healthy. So, the more hp the town as a whole has, the harder it is for the scum to get kills. In addition, the starting heads of the colleges are guaranteed innocents. Attacks against them decrease the town's chances of eliminating the scum. While the colleges will inevitably have to fight it out, it's in our collective interests to postpone that fighting until the scum are eliminated, or at least significantly reduced.
Kudos on your attempt to get the town to kill each other. :bow:
FoS: Kennigit
Askthepizzaguy
12-02-2012, 22:04
I don't think I've ever seen Kennigit post a wall of words that size.
For his attempt to impersonatethepizzaguy, that earns him a raised eyebrow of tsk-tsk-ery. :inquisitive:
seireikhaan
12-02-2012, 23:25
I admit I haven't been following the details of this game super close and am catching up mostly now, but I don't follow that or how in the past you said you are "98% certain" or whatever.
There are at least 2 scum factions and it seems certainly one of them doesn't have the goal to simply kill everyone around. In addition, I'm quite happy in asserting that the scum will happily go along with "let's not follow our VC of eliminating another college and simply stay alive guiz, this peace treaty is da best!". The scum can easily have items that make them scale faster than a townie (i.e. gain more XP or corruption), and giving more time before starting the college war disproportionately helps the scum.
Pretty simple. As I pointed out, we discussed the plans to protect me well ahead of time. I seriously doubt the scum would just go ahead and launch attacks against me anyways and waste their whole night phase. The 2% I mentioned earlier was basically a reference to the possibility that mechanics of the game worked differently than I and pretty much everyone else thought. Now, I think that's pretty irrelevent, for the logic I pointed out.
Now obviously protecting you worked tonight and is all good, but considering all the attacks have been stacked on you last night (quite clearly scum oriented), what are all the people in other colleges doing besides explicitly going against what the rule says is the VC (i.e. why is there this armistice) and the scum happy in not killing anyone? Last night literally nothing happened, and I as a unaligned person I don't want to just give the scum a free pass to live as long as they fake act with their college.
I declined my random water college invite very early on n3 because I didn't want to go to a college where I had 0 AV and bother to spend the XP to raise that AV to go then kill other townies of the opposite college (pyromancer, I assume). I would rather spend that XP on DV and health as a unaligned, which payed off a tiny bit in a fire AV attack and certainly getting more and more health didn't hurt when mr. khaan's friends attacked me.
My college was pretty visible last night. I took a look at Bsmith, and I got protected. The other folk, well, whatever they're doing is up to them. I can't PM anyone, so it's not like I can exactly try to coordinate very effectively without giving everything away. I ordered my original vig on you out of a hunch and lack of better things to do that night.
If you think I gave the folks in my school a free pass without doing my homework, you're quite mistaken. As for the other schools, well, that's up to them, I don't have the resources to do their job for them.
But I get confused when Mr water tincow (right, if I read things correctly?)
goes around calling the head of the fire college a "wrong" lynch. Even if there is desire for a peace treaty, surely a little benefit like that is encouraging for when people finally have to break the little feel-good non-aggression pact.
I know that many (khaan, atpg, tincow, etc) seem to be asking for the colleges to take a pause from killing people and 'focus' on scum, but from my memory there has been almost no indication of the coordinated/"Devastating" 3 or more person attacks from people-from-the-same-college that actually indicates any real effort to do damage. There never was a college war to begin with, and I can imagine the scum even pushing forward for such a little peace treaty and kill people like me.
I don't see why a bunch of college educated folks in atpg's air or the geodudes, etc are not following their VCs (as I understand it from the rules, not being a part of a college myself) and people affiliated with those colleges attacking clearly unaligned people i.e. me, if you recall:
Colleges have more victory conditions than beating the snot out of each other. Primarily, beating the scum. Lynching innocents doesn't really help with that. Also, not all colleges want all other colleges defeated.
but they don't work together (i.e. my attack was not enough damage to be a coordinated attack). I know atpg had the touchy feely good of "look at how the colleges worked together to get a scum! isn't that grrrrrreeeeeaaaattt!" when clearly there are scum amongst the colleges who aren't even that interested in killing people, and everyone else is doing half hearted 1 person attacks on people like me. Is everyone honestly that confident their college will be the final one standing?
i.e. I see almost nothing about the colleges being cleared of scums because with the colleges having a fake little temporary armistice, the scum will just go along with that armistice. This little "we'll 'clear' everyone in our college then kill noncollegites" is just going to get a person like me killed, while doing nothing to final scum. I don't want THAT to happen, since I want all the scum gone and not just purge out my own college of scum then cowboy on up to kill an enemy college.
Once again- I have ensured my college does not have scum. I can't ensure the same thing with the other schools, imo, but they have a better grasp of who's in and who's not, and dealing with them. I will do my best to help, but coordination is difficult when we're not allowed to pm. You trying to sow dissent and make us war with each other is... honestly the scummiest thing I've seen in a mafia game in a long, long time.
This bsmith air business while not being air college makes sense, and that seems like a good case to me, but I'm quite worried about the delay in real scum hunting. For all we know the scum want to do some sort of timed vc, or were generating like +1 corruption a night with a little magic dagger or whatever and will reach some uber powerful super corrupt state where the town won't bring them down.
Wait, what. This doesn't count as "real" scum hunting? What, pray tell, is? I investigated someone, and used my knowledge of game mechanics to determine that he's a pretty decent bet. You have a better idea?
honestly I actually just don't know what the VC is for them is and at least 1 scums being quite content to sit around and not attack worries me, and such silly discussions about starting corruption is quite vain as the majority of living players started out "vanilla" with the scum amongst them, i.e. the scum would be mostly indistinguishable from the vanillas. Particularly since clearly some scum don't care about having an AV of 5 o 6 or whatever to kill, and some townies will start with 1 corruption.
Pardon me? Are you insinuating that most people started with corruption? I'mma say "no" right now on that one. That's just untrue.
tl;dr: the armistice will reach a nonprogress point that I believe is right now, kills time for the scum that could be getting stronger OR more importantly don't even have an eliminate victory condition, encourages people to invest in AV rather than DV for the final war and make it easier for the high AV scum to hide, and hypothetically I treat "anyone not following the town VC is going for a different VC" and that's kind of the whole principle of the armistice. You'll kill unaligned perfectly content townies like myself while 'clear' your own college, people who only got a single water college invite forever ago and didn't want to have a 0 av college, while the scum could work towards a non elimination VC or scale differently than townies
IDEK
Kennigit
12-03-2012, 00:39
well visorslash claims to have started on corruption, I'm not trying to say "oh go kill each other" but what I'm trying to say is so many people have written off "my college scum free 100% yes-sir, no doubt in my mind, 100% clear!" and I don't follow that.
Kennigit
12-03-2012, 01:18
So far one person outside a college has been killed. That person was scum. There are at least three more scum still attacking, the college leaders seem to have a close eye on their members' night actions. Therefore I feel there is a fair chance of these three remaining scum being in the 'unaligned' category. Why would we ignore them?
If you're so scared of being collateral damage then you ought to accept any invitations that come your way from now on. There is no disadvantage whatsoever to having low stats in the element of your college, so if you're innocent you have nothing to lose.
I think you misunderstand me, and it's pretty natural for the college people killed to be townies when 2/4 of the dead townies were head masters. I'm not saying don't ignore unaligned at all, just that I definitely think the current plan is "confirm my college, kill the rest". And I have serious doubts on how to confirm the people in your college, because "following the plan of the college" is not really clearing of anything imo. It clears them of being 3 attacking scum, and I believe with 2 scum teams there are more scum out there than 4 total in the game.
There are at least 2 scum factions and it seems certainly one of them doesn't have the goal to simply kill everyone around.
I believe with 2 scum teams there are more scum out there than 4 total in the game.
:inquisitive: Why do you think there are two scum teams?
:inquisitive: Why do you think there are two scum teams?
OP?
I think you misunderstand me, and it's pretty natural for the college people killed to be townies when 2/4 of the dead townies were head masters. I'm not saying don't ignore unaligned at all, just that I definitely think the current plan is "confirm my college, kill the rest". And I have serious doubts on how to confirm the people in your college, because "following the plan of the college" is not really clearing of anything imo. It clears them of being 3 attacking scum, and I believe with 2 scum teams there are more scum out there than 4 total in the game.
That would be a whole lot of scum. And why would the non-attacking scum just be sitting back? Sure they'll be getting more powerful with time but so will all the townies.
It's harder for scum to blend into colleges than you think, night attacks are monitored to make sure that the individual does not have a suspiciously high AV in any element, and corruption levels are possible to estimate from the write up. Okay so maybe there are some scum characters that have townie stats and are hiding in a college but there's no way to detect them and that is certainly no reason to stop going after the attacking scum, who are actively harming the town at the moment. We've killed one of them and have a reasonable case against BSmith.
It is not simply a case of kill everyone outside the colleges but considering that there are no disadvantages whatsoever for a townie to join a college it does make people look suspicious. When we back that suspicion up with more evidence why would we not go after them? I still don't understand what you are suggesting, do you want us to start lynching our own college members just in case they managed to slip through the tests? You're really not helping yourself here...
OP?
Let's pretend like I never made that post. :creep:
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