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Captain Blackadder
12-03-2012, 02:11
Okay I am back I kind of ignored this game a little after the first couple of rounds with my lynching twice I had next to no health thus I expected to die very soon. However this has turned out to not be the case.
Askthepizzaguy
12-03-2012, 08:59
Okay I am back I kind of ignored this game a little after the first couple of rounds with my lynching twice I had next to no health thus I expected to die very soon. However this has turned out to not be the case.
Most believable explanation for not being here.... ever.
Congrats. If this is a lie, I totally eat it up. Num num nummy numms.
Tally:
BSmith (14): Issaikhaan, White Eyes, ATPG, Chaotix, Edse, Elite Ferret, Riedquat, LazyMcCrow, Alsark, Visorslash, Kennigit, Ironside, johnhughtom,
Riedquat: TinCow
Item tally:
Issaikhaan (9): Issaikhaan, White Eyes, TinCow, Riedquat, LazyMcCrow, Alsark, Kennigit, Ironside, johnhughtom,
Without much doubt, BSmith was chosen to death. Almost all college members encircled him, and throw all their magic at him. What was left of his body, looked like som kind of... paté?
BSmith was unaffiliated townie! He was innocent! no, in fact BSmith was a Cult Enforcer, member of the Defilers
Spectral Hand goes to the Issaikhaan.
Night six begins
Askthepizzaguy
12-03-2012, 10:33
All hail the great and powerful and terrifying khaan.
Also, lime green looks just.... just atrocious. Please, I BEG of you, turn that into um... a color that doesn't cause retinal cancer.
Well
Defilers should defile. I was looking for most... rotten? ... corrupted? color, and also one that will not be too similar to colors of colleges. I was thinking about pink, but it was overkill
Askthepizzaguy
12-03-2012, 11:33
On the plus side, I can't really see it anymore because my eyes are bleeding too much. So the problem solves itself.
White_eyes:D
12-03-2012, 11:57
All hail the great and powerful and terrifying khaan.
I second this.
Just one more and he well reach "Mage-God" status.:jawdrop:
NinjaCow64
12-03-2012, 13:24
Cult? CULT!!?!?!?!?!
Now I'm scared.
LazyMcCrow
12-03-2012, 13:33
Do we receive stat updates before Night is over?
you will receive stat updates.
it will be today or tommorow (in real time), so before end of night
LazyMcCrow
12-03-2012, 14:33
you will receive stat updates.
it will be today or tommorow (in real time), so before end of night
Great - sorry to be over-reliant on those updates. Many thanks
seireikhaan
12-03-2012, 16:54
Neato.
Kennigit was sleeping, when someone decided it would be fine idea to drown him... When his lungs drawed water, he wake up and escaped from his cell. He was wet and cold, it was moderate blow to his health
There is no safe place in the College. Kennigit was sitting in the Corner of Bowel's Evacuation, when masked man barraged him with a rain of pebbles. Wounds opened all over Kennigit's body. He escaped, but was in rather bad condition
El Barto studied. In fact, studying was the only thing he was doing lately, as he was very afraid of upcoming exams. He was so absorbed with lecture, that attacker managed to cast fire ball at him and escape before he reacted. El Barto's body and clothes were burned. But, even more terrible was that his notes were burned too! Heavily wounded, his body lied on the floor
'How I will pass my exams?' - El Barto was asking himself during two next days. 'I am so burned, that no one can look at me without revulsion. Examiners will not want to listen to me'. Fortunately (in some sense at least), someone ended his misery with a big rock that smashed his head into pieces.[spoil] EL Barto was innocent. He was member of College of Waves
Today we do not have any items for you, but tomorrow we will have something special
Living Players:
1. Captain Blackadder
2. Riedquat
3. Autolycus
4. LazyMcCrow
5. Chaotix
6. Askthepizzaguy
7. Memnon
8. Edse
9. Alsark
10. Ironside
11. Visorslash
12. Issaikhaan
13. Tincow
14. Kennigit
15. White eyes:D
16. Xenoneb
17. Robbiecon
18. Johnhughtom
19.Elite Ferret
Dead Players
Montmorency (aeromancers)
NinjaCow (pyromancers)
Andres (hydromancers)
Ignoramus (pyromancers)
Arjos (Defilers)
BSmith (Defilers)
El Barto (hydromancers)
Attacked Players:Alsark (n3)
Andres (n3, n3, n3)
Askthepizzaguy (n2, n4)
Chaotix (n1, n4, n4, n4)
Edse (n1)
El Barto (n6, n6)
Ignoramus (n3)
Issaikhaan (n4, n5, n5, n5)
Johnhughtom (n3)
Kennigit (n3, n4, n6, n6)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1, n3, n3)
Montmorency (n1, n2, n2)
Riedquat (n4)
TinCow (n3, n4)
Visorslash (n2)
Xenoneb (n1, n2, n5)
Day 7 begins!
White_eyes:D
12-05-2012, 23:17
As bad as this is that the mason was killed, it also marks the swan song for the scum.
Vote:Kennigit
I also claim the attack on him last night....Kinda surprised no one else tried to attack him.:shrug:
El Barto
12-05-2012, 23:18
Now, kids, this is why you do not out your masons, and why playing in a way that makes sheep appear to be intelligent is actually harmful to the town.
El Barto
12-05-2012, 23:19
As bad as this is that the mason was killed, it also marks the swan song for the scum.
Vote:Kennigit
I also claim the attack on him last night....Kinda surprised no one else tried to attack him.:shrug:
Have you read the update? There were two attacks on Kennigit.
White_eyes:D
12-05-2012, 23:31
I figured the second attack was from the Earth College....and don't blame me for the whole "Everyone in the Water College" is scum stuff.:brood:
There was a few different ways to handle that whole "Attack Pizzaguy" thing and you choose the worst way.:shrug:
vote:Kennigit
He and Riedquat were acting mightily suspicious in the last phase.
What is going on in the water college? Have you all just given up talking to each other or something?
Vote: Elite Ferret
:stare:
seireikhaan
12-06-2012, 00:09
Okay, really now... both my items were stolen? :inquisitive:
White_eyes:D
12-06-2012, 00:22
Okay, really now... both my items were stolen? :inquisitive:
You must be joking?....this is like someone breaking into Fort Knox and they got away because the guard was sleeping.:no:
What is going on in the water college? Have you all just given up talking to each other or something?
I must attempt to hold in my laughter at the irony of this situation.:laugh4:
El Barto was kinda a "Out in the open kinda guy", Now that he is dead I doubt anything like this well happen again.:clown:
Vote: Elite Ferret
:stare:
Really? You're voting for me because I'm not convinced about the stability of the water college, rather than trying to help us get the mafia? Okay then.
I must attempt to hold in my laughter at the irony of this situation.:laugh4:
El Barto was kinda a "Out in the open kinda guy", Now that he is dead I doubt anything like this well happen again.:clown:
I was more referring to your apparent surprise that no one else attacked Kennigit last night. Just seems like if you wanted him dead you would have planned a coordinated attack, rather than just attacking on your own and hoping that someone would join in...
But anyway it's nothing to do with me, so long as we get the mafia in the next few days I'll be happy.
Okay, really now... both my items were stolen? :inquisitive:
That is odd. I would have thought that if someone had the ability to steal they would have taken them off you well before now. Does that mean they stole the item that lets you steal an item? :laugh4:
seireikhaan
12-06-2012, 03:16
That is odd. I would have thought that if someone had the ability to steal they would have taken them off you well before now. Does that mean they stole the item that lets you steal an item. :laugh4:
Yes. :inquisitive:
Being able to just swipe everything in one go seems kinda OP... whatever.
In unrelated news, using my handy-dandy notebook headmaster powers, I found Riedquat to also be in possession of a 3-4 ranked corruption score. Additionally, with his strongest element being earth, which is at least a touch odd given he's not currently enrolled. I'm going to go ahead and say "let's give this another whack at it". Worked yesterday, anyways.
Vote: Riedquat
Does that mean they stole the item that lets you steal an item. :laugh4:
Oy, item thieves. I already transferred the Lenses to someone else in my college, so look elsewhere for your five finger discounts.
In unrelated news, using my handy-dandy notebook headmaster powers, I found Riedquat to also be in possession of a 3-4 ranked corruption score. Additionally, with his strongest element being earth, which is at least a touch odd given he's not currently enrolled. I'm going to go ahead and say "let's give this another whack at it". Worked yesterday, anyways.
Vote: Riedquat
Ok, I'm not going to be the odd man out a third time in a row.
Vote: Riedquat
Also, the fact that he has a 3-4 corruption score shows that he's a lying liar who lies (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053500061&viewfull=1#post2053500061).
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 04:57
Oy, item thieves. I already transferred the Lenses to someone else in my college, so look elsewhere for your five finger discounts.
Ok, I'm not going to be the odd man out a third time in a row.
Vote: Riedquat
Also, the fact that he has a 3-4 corruption score shows that he's a lying liar who lies (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053500061&viewfull=1#post2053500061).
Really? I never lied in that respect, I didn't start with corruption, I gained two points when I got recruited into the cult and invested xp for the other point, that is why I was really surprised people got corruption for voting an innocent. And talking about corruption levels, how is yours? It keeps climbing night by night? How many points you got for voting innocents? :laugh4: Because, your is same as mine, if not higher no? You are lucky I'm still unable to attack...
NinjaCow64
12-06-2012, 06:45
Really? I never lied in that respect, I didn't start with corruption, I gained two points when I got recruited into the cult and invested xp for the other point, that is why I was really surprised people got corruption for voting an innocent. And talking about corruption levels, how is yours? It keeps climbing night by night? How many points you got for voting innocents? :laugh4: Because, your is same as mine, if not higher no? You are lucky I'm still unable to attack...
Wait, what? Cult? Please, everyone, kill him now.
Unvote; Vote: Riedquat
Sail away...
a question was asked in pm that I want to answer openly...
You will NOT be informed when scum faction cease to exist
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 09:04
Bah. The scums in this game get all the breaks. In my day, I was a serial killer pretending to be a vigilante and I needed people to think there were still scum out there and when there wasn't any I died AND I LIKED IT, I LOVED IT, OHHHHH HAPPY DAY
/Dana Carvey
White_eyes:D
12-06-2012, 09:15
You will NOT be informed when scum faction cease to exist
Oh joy...:brood:
Unvote:Kennigit Vote:Riedquat
I wouldn't trust anything he says about being recruited or not attacking anyone last night....he knows he lost and is making stuff up.(It's what I would do:clown:)
I was more referring to your apparent surprise that no one else attacked Kennigit last night. Just seems like if you wanted him dead you would have planned a coordinated attack, rather than just attacking on your own and hoping that someone would join in...
I was wondering why the other colleges didn't help, I was expecting one from each college at least...:shrug:
I know what most of the water college was doing last night...the only unstable factor was the whole "El Barto" mason thing. :book:
Edit: I guess I should explain that....I eliminated who could be scum in the water college after the "El Barto-Pizzaguy" thing. Most of the college is cleared by night actions, not all but enough to say, if there is an inside job we would know about it right away.
Hoo boy.
These cultists are just coming out of the woodwork now, eh?
Vote: Riedquat
Not even trying to defend himself... to be honest, if they are this willing to give themselves up, I bet they have us right where they want us. Bet you at least one of the headmasters is a cultist... which means Water and Fire are most at risk.
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 10:02
Hoo boy.
These cultists are just coming out of the woodwork now, eh?
Vote: Riedquat
Not even trying to defend himself... to be honest, if they are this willing to give themselves up, I bet they have us right where they want us. Bet you at least one of the headmasters is a cultist... which means Water and Fire are most at risk.
How about you reveal your college headmaster so we all know who not to trust.
And my friends in the encampment of fiery fire (fiery fire? How come in the adjective form, the word is written fier-, and in the noun form, it's written fire? TEH ENGRISH LANGRAGE MAKES NO SENSE OH GOD THIS PARENTHETICAL STATEMENT IS GETTING TOO LONG AAAAAAA) should also expose their mafia Don.
So we can get all our private dangly bits out into the open at once, given khaan is the outed Earthen leader and I can count myself as an outed bag of hot air.
Demonstrate your commitment to TEH TWON by exposing your Headmaster!
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 10:06
Also now that my mason partner has died and flipped townie, ummm
Protection plz.
Ironside
12-06-2012, 10:18
Vote: Riedquat
Recruitment would certainly explain the odd number of attacks, but I also suspect he's part of the other scum faction.
Captain Blackadder
12-06-2012, 10:21
Vote: Riedquat
johnhughthom
12-06-2012, 11:48
Vote: Riedquat
Really? I never lied in that respect, I didn't start with corruption, I gained two points when I got recruited into the cult and invested xp for the other point, that is why I was really surprised people got corruption for voting an innocent. And talking about corruption levels, how is yours? It keeps climbing night by night? How many points you got for voting innocents? :laugh4: Because, your is same as mine, if not higher no? You are lucky I'm still unable to attack...
I stand corrected. Why are you unable to attack?
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 14:04
Ehh... I'm not defending myself! By the setting of the game I'm scum for joining the cult, fine with it, but the truth is the cult haven't killed anyone and by the cult's VC I can assure you, believe it or not, town/academy is not our target to eliminate, the other mafia is. Who are these guy, I don't have a clue, if my intention is to confuse town lying I would be throwing names in here. The only one I'm suspicious of is Tincow but that is because his corruption increased for no apparent reason, he had at least 3 corruption points the last time we scanned him, and that was when our scanner was alive.. couple of days ago.
We were also curious about the masons, but the killing of El Barto makes no sense if it wasn't a town action...
Look at the real lurkers, and very closely at the just returned lurkers, Captain B, jht and... Alsark? I don't know...
One more thing, I really hope the stealing of khaan items was another school move, if not everyone is doomed!
Good luck town!
:bow:
by the cult's VC I can assure you, believe it or not, town/academy is not our target to eliminate, the other mafia is..
Why don't you help us out and give us all the information you have on them then.
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 14:45
Why don't you help us out and give us all the information you have on them then.
:laugh4: I already did, you killed our seer, we have been blind 3/4 parts of the game, we spent half the game investing in his skill just to get him perform two scans, and the only interesting result was yours. Now do you care to explain how do you got 3-4 corruption points?
:laugh4: I already did, you killed our seer, we have been blind 3/4 parts of the game, we spent half the game investing in his skill just to get him perform two scans, and the only interesting result was yours. Now do you care to explain how do you get 3-4 corruption points?
You have no information on their numbers? Their abilities?
As for my corruption, I have 3 points, not 4. I also stated where I got my corruption from five days ago (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053499991&viewfull=1#post2053499991).
LazyMcCrow
12-06-2012, 15:23
vote Riedquat
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 15:28
I must be missing something, there you explain how you gained (conveniently) 2 corruption points, and the third?
I must be missing something, there you explain how you gained (conveniently) 2 corruption points, and the third?
Yes, you're missing something:
Attacked Players:
TinCow (n3, n4)
Ironside
12-06-2012, 17:15
Ehh... I'm not defending myself! By the setting of the game I'm scum for joining the cult, fine with it, but the truth is the cult haven't killed anyone and by the cult's VC I can assure you, believe it or not, town/academy is not our target to eliminate, the other mafia is. Who are these guy, I don't have a clue, if my intention is to confuse town lying I would be throwing names in here. The only one I'm suspicious of is Tincow but that is because his corruption increased for no apparent reason, he had at least 3 corruption points the last time we scanned him, and that was when our scanner was alive.. couple of days ago.
We were also curious about the masons, but the killing of El Barto makes no sense if it wasn't a town action...
So what attacks are you claiming as the cult attacks? It's obvious that there's two different attacking teams.
When did you get recruited? Any idea of why they picked you, or can they simply recruit at random?
The double negation about El Barto makes it sound like you think the killing of El Barto only makes sense if it was done by town. And that sounds odd.
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 18:41
So what attacks are you claiming as the cult attacks? It's obvious that there's two different attacking teams.
When did you get recruited? Any idea of why they picked you, or can they simply recruit at random?
None, as far as I know there weren't any cult attacks. N2/D3 if I'm not mistaken.
The double negation about El Barto makes it sound like you think the killing of El Barto only makes sense if it was done by town. And that sounds odd.
Odd indeed!
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 18:42
I am amused in general by Reidquat. This is entertaining no matter how true or false it is.
Oh wouldn't it be delightful if Tincow and Reidquat were both guilty as sin.
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 18:43
Hey Reidquat, I told you in the quicktopic not to post right before I did! Now they all know!!! :clown:
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 18:43
I am amused in general by Reidquat. This is entertaining no matter how true or false it is.
Oh wouldn't it be delightful if Tincow and Reidquat were both guilty as sin.
guilty of what exactly?
Hey Reidquat, I told you in the quicktopic not to post right before I did! Now they all know!!! :clown:
Oh... damn! I keep doing it, I'm so dumb! Sorry master! Are you still going to resurrect me after two days?
guilty of what exactly?
Being too damn sexy. :belly:
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 19:31
Being too damn sexy. :belly:
Talk for yourself! By the way, your vote is conveniently placed in an edited post, you know you will need all the votes placed on me to take down all my hp ;)
And as I want my xp for the time of my return, vote: jht :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 19:36
Alright, that's enough! There is ENTIRELY TOO MUCH gender-bending going on around here!
When we have [spoiler alert] male headmistresses batting their eyelashes at me and Tincow in a belly dancing outfit, it's gone too far!
Talk for yourself! By the way, your vote is conveniently placed in an edited post, you know you will need all the votes placed on me to take down all my hp ;)
I get tired of saying this over and over in games. The Gameroom rule is that you cannot edit your vote; there's nothing wrong with editing a post with a vote in it as long as you leave your vote untouched. I did not change the vote when I made the edit, I simply added another line to the post. Therefore, the vote remains valid.
Kennigit
12-06-2012, 20:39
Okay, really now... both my items were stolen? :inquisitive:
SHOCKING
firstly, vote riedquat. But I do wish people would stop attacking me so.
I keep spending my XP on health/surviving, and you people keep attacking me T_T. It'd be quite in my interests to survive; I don't want to get caught up in you all killing each other. I guess you can keep stealing from each other, that's cool too.
I get tired of saying this over and over in games. The Gameroom rule is that you cannot edit your vote; there's nothing wrong with editing a post with a vote in it as long as you leave your vote untouched. I did not change the vote when I made the edit, I simply added another line to the post. Therefore, the vote remains valid.
TBH, I never realised that there is such rule. I was sure there was a rule "do not edit any post (save for ninja edit to correct single letters)".
Anyway, I will accept this vote (I do not check if post with vote was edited)
Actually, I just checked and there's nothing in the official rules at all about vote editing, either for or against. So, I guess I'll just call it an unwritten rule. I remember some Gameroom moderator commenting on it in a game I played in recently, though I don't remember what game it was or who said it.
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
As I want this game to move a little bit faster, following night will be the last one lasting 48 hours. Next nights will be 24 hours long, and when there would be less then 10 players, days will be 24 hours long too
Askthepizzaguy
12-06-2012, 21:26
Such rules are largely game-specific.
Over at CFC, it's the general rule in every game that editing posts with votes is forbidden.
On other forums, all forms of editing are disallowed. I hate such strict rules.
I like the rule about not editing which vote you put. That's sane. Everything else seems overly strict.
I prefer rule of no major edits.
If you have written something you would rather delete, you have to live with it.
So please, do not edit your posts (with vote or without it), save for small changes
I get tired of saying this over and over in games. The Gameroom rule is that you cannot edit your vote; there's nothing wrong with editing a post with a vote in it as long as you leave your vote untouched. I did not change the vote when I made the edit, I simply added another line to the post. Therefore, the vote remains valid.
I think it was first introduced in Capo II and that was exactly how Seamus described it. I've followed those rules ever since, they make the most sense to me.
Kennigit: Why are you so eager to stay alive if you're just a townie? If your only victory condition is for the threats to the college to be eliminated then it doesn't really matter if you live or die. The colleges also happen to be the best candidates to achieve this victory condition, so not sure why you are so against them. Well apart from the fact that you're mafia of course.
Riedquat
12-06-2012, 22:01
I get tired of saying this over and over in games. The Gameroom rule is that you cannot edit your vote; there's nothing wrong with editing a post with a vote in it as long as you leave your vote untouched. I did not change the vote when I made the edit, I simply added another line to the post. Therefore, the vote remains valid.
Ugh! Sorry, I had it wrong all my life... :wall: I blame jht you should do the same ;)
White_eyes:D
12-07-2012, 00:21
I prefer rule of no major edits.
If you have written something you would rather delete, you have to live with it.
So please, do not edit your posts (with vote or without it), save for small changes
I merely edited one sentence that sounded too mean-spirited to El Barto before. As far as I am concerned, the org is much better off without it.:yes:
I can see why people want the edits to stay out of a mafia game, but I feel that's a little too strict.:book:
johnhughthom
12-07-2012, 01:07
It's impossible to be too mean spirited toward El Barto.
NinjaCow64
12-07-2012, 03:41
Alright, that's enough! There is ENTIRELY TOO MUCH gender-bending going on around here!
When we have [spoiler alert] male headmistresses batting their eyelashes at me and Tincow in a belly dancing outfit, it's gone too far!
Oh, you can never have enough of that. :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
12-07-2012, 06:02
My eyes! The goggles do NOTHING!!!
As day approached to end, Riedquat was chosen to death. Battered with all kinds of elemental forces, he died. His last words were: Brothers in faith! Avenge me!
Riedquat was a Cult Enforcer, member of the Defilers
Night seven begins
Tally:
Riedquat: Issaikhaan, TinCow, Visorslash, White Eyes, Chaotix, Ironside, Captain Blackadder, Johnhughtom, Alsark, LazyMcCrow, Kennigit,
Kennigit: Elite Ferret
Johnhughtom: Riedquat
Kennigit
12-07-2012, 22:39
I think it was first introduced in Capo II and that was exactly how Seamus described it. I've followed those rules ever since, they make the most sense to me.
Kennigit: Why are you so eager to stay alive if you're just a townie? If your only victory condition is for the threats to the college to be eliminated then it doesn't really matter if you live or die. The colleges also happen to be the best candidates to achieve this victory condition, so not sure why you are so against them. Well apart from the fact that you're mafia of course.
you may want to read the rules.
Kennigit
12-07-2012, 22:40
which in the spirit on noneditting, particularly the section that says "victory conditions" for unaligned ;)
Askthepizzaguy
12-07-2012, 23:32
Three dead cultists in a row.
I'm aiming for number four.
seireikhaan
12-08-2012, 05:04
Gonna do ma best.
El Barto
12-09-2012, 04:11
Good thing the man who rhymes with kumquat's dead.
Lazy McCrow was studying, when suddenly column of flame rushed in his direction from his small fireplace. He tried to escape, but fire was too quick. Dying from lethal burnings, he thought: “why are you taking me so early, my lovely flame? I did not master your misteries yet... I'm not sure if I am ready for your embrace... your kisses are so hot.. I'm melting... I'm on fire...”
Lazy McCrow was innocent. He was member of the College of Flames
At the body of Lazy McCrow we founded Everburning Torch, sacred artifact of College of Flames. As there is no member of this college left, this item would be given to one of other students. Be warned that someone who is not pyromancer will be able to use only base functions of this item, and hydromancers would be wounded if they try to wield it.
Autolycus was walking at the patio when sudden gust of wind blow him away and hit him against the wall. Wounded, he nonetheless stood up. When he tried to escape, he noticed three attackers moving closer. All of them produced cones of hot air from their hands. Burned and suffocating, Autolycus merely managed to escape through small door into small compartment, where he fainted. He was barely alive.
TinCow was reading. When he heard that someone is approaching to his cell, he stopped. He was surprised a bit, when he saw that there are two people coming to his room. 'Well', he said. 'You think two would be enough for me?' Trying to surprise attackers, he started to escape during the last words. And he almost succeeded. Surprised, attackers barely managed to hit him with ice bolts. Wounded, but out of his cell, TinCow was almost sure he will escape succesfully. But then, third attacker came. He molded sphere of boiling water with his hands, and then pushed it to the TinCow with a scream 'That's for Benny, you monster!' TinCow died, his last thought were: 'What? Benny?!? Who the f*** is Benny?'
TinCow was innocent. He was member of College of Winds.
Today, we have 4 items for you to vote for. Four wands, each emulating signature spell of one of the Colleges. There are wands of: cleansing (fire), healing (water), protecting (earth), hasting (air).
The main aim of these items is to allow members of other colleges to cast spells of different elements. Therefore, wands WILL NOT be given to members of colleges that can cast spells associated with them (e. g. member of College of Flames cannot get wand of cleansing). These wands are special. There are not items of good. They function due to necromantic powers – each use costs small amount of user's life and sould. Now, you are warned. Do what you like.
OOC:
1. College of Flames is eliminated. When/if scum is eliminated, game will end in victory of College of Water (if it will have any member left)
2. Vote for Everburning Torch in red
3. Vote for wands without special color, but with describing them with their names (e. g. vote: wand of cleansing to Jarema)
Day 8 begins
Living Players:
1. Captain Blackadder
2. Autolycus
3.
4. Chaotix
5. Askthepizzaguy
6. Memnon
7. Edse
8. Alsark
9. Ironside
10. Visorslash
11. Issaikhaan
12.
13. Kennigit
14. White eyes:D
15. Xenoneb
16. Robbiecon
17. Johnhughtom
18.Elite Ferret
Dead Players
Montmorency (aeromancers)
NinjaCow (pyromancers)
Andres (hydromancers)
Ignoramus(pyromancers)
Arjos (Defilers)
BSmith (Defilers)
El Barto (hydromancers)
Riedquat (Defilers)
LazyMcCrow(pyromancers)
TinCow (aeromancers)
johnhughthom
12-10-2012, 01:08
Argh 4 items! Even CFC rarely has that many..... :wall:
:clown:
Vote: Xenoneb
All stuffz to khaan
Air, water, fire wand to khaan as well as fire statue.
Vote: Kennigit
Earth wand to ATPG
autolycus
12-10-2012, 01:44
Well, that was fun.
Would you boys like to try again?
Issaikhaan has enough on his plate. I think we should give Robbiecon the air wand, pizzaguy the water wand, Alsark the fire wand, and Memnon the earth wand.
Let's let johnhughthom have the fire statue.
I didn't know this started. Sorry guys.
NinjaCow64
12-10-2012, 02:21
Curse you water fountain people! I wish for you all to suffer a horrible town loss because of your impotence!!!
White_eyes:D
12-10-2012, 05:11
Sad part is...we can't even take credit for killing off the fire college.:laugh4:
Vote: Kennigit
How is he still alive??? two attacks leave him near death and you all pass on killing a confirmed scumbag?
Looks like I have to do everything around here.:wall:
I am nervous about leaving all those items on one person if they can all just be stolen at once.:book:
Vote: Kennigit
Everburning Torch to issaikhaan
Don't care who gets the rest.
El Barto
12-10-2012, 07:03
Vote all items to me. :clown:
LazyMcCrow
12-10-2012, 10:59
Sorry my firey brethren...and sorry you were all dead by the time I was enrolled :D
vote: Kennigit
Although I have to admit, I'm far less convinced of his guilt than I was previously...
Not really sure what to do with all these items, but seems like a good idea to spread them out.
vote: wand of cleansing to White eyes, wand of healing to Elite Ferret, wand of protecting to ATPG and wand of hasting to Khaan.
Not sure about the everburning torch yet.
Argh 4 items! Even CFC rarely has that many..... :wall:
Five, my friend. Five :bow:
Riedquat
12-10-2012, 14:03
Oh my... people why don't try at least to use that thing above and between your shoulders :stare:
For your own sake, think!! who is near to reach their vc's? Now what is the safest thing to do if you still want to win?!?! :wall:
Kennigit
12-10-2012, 15:52
Well well all, the war has begun it seems!
You think you need that little water healing boost to push your earth college over the top? Got a good solid group of air-ites now forming together but need a little earth protection?
I promise to contract out my skills if you're interested.
1. College of Flames is eliminated. When/if scum is eliminated, game will end in victory of College of Water (if it will have any member left)
Does this mean that it is basically pointless for Earth and Air to fight now?
El Barto
12-10-2012, 17:16
Well, we pwn.
Riedquat
12-10-2012, 18:12
Does this mean that it is basically pointless for Earth and Air to fight now?
Depending against who...
Depending against who...
The way it was worded makes it sound like Water will be the winning college now once the scum are eliminated, regardless of what the rest of us do. If Earth and Air have already lost the battle to be the top college, then it's pointless for there to be any more town in-fighting and we can just concentrate on the remaining scum and be done with it.
Riedquat
12-10-2012, 19:13
The way it was worded makes it sound like Water will be the winning college now once the scum are eliminated, regardless of what the rest of us do. If Earth and Air have already lost the battle to be the top college, then it's pointless for there to be any more town in-fighting and we can just concentrate on the remaining scum and be done with it.
As things are now, water will win if the scum is eliminated, and the other two schools do nothing, the cease of fire was fantastic for an equilibrated balance of power, now its over. Earth, air and the two scum factions need to go against water.... now. As an autodidactic english reader the wording don't do much difference for me. :P
As things are now, water will win if the scum is eliminated, and the other two schools do nothing, the cease of fire was fantastic for an equilibrated balance of power, now its over. Earth, air and the two scum factions need to go against water.... now. As an autodidactic english reader the wording don't do much difference for me. :P
Yeah, I don't think so. Color me unexcited about the idea of Earth and Air having to kill Water to win, since that goes directly against what our roles say. IMO, if either Earth or Air can win with Water by eliminating the other, that's great and should be fun. But if this turns into a last-school-standing contest I'd just prefer to focus on finishing off the scum and let Water have their extra victory condition.
I think Earth and Air probably can still fight each other to win.
Which means Water could be a good friend to have...
Fight for our love! Do it!
1. Each faction win when their victory condition is accomplished
2. If there is no scum, two kinds of situation may happen:
example 1: there is no fire college, there are colleges of Waves, Stones, and Winds. What happens? WATER COLLEGE WINS IMMEDIATELLY, and all other colleges loses the game
example 2: there is no fire college, there is no air college (let's say, it was eliminated before last scum died). What happens? Water AND Earth colleges win together
seireikhaan
12-10-2012, 22:53
So, couple things- I completely missed out on sending orders last night, so no real results report, sadly. Back to gut for voting.
Secondly, I don't really give a rat's behind about last-school-standing nonsense. I've never been this productive a townie in my life, so I'll take just finishing off the scum.
Third, I'd like the wand of healing and the torch, if you please.
Vote: Torch to Khaan
Vote: Wand of healing to Khaan
Vote: Wand of Cleansing to ATPG
Vote: Wand of Protecting to ATPG.
Vote: Alsark
He's gone completely off radar from his earlier crusades when he got voted. I don't particularly like that.
White_eyes:D
12-10-2012, 23:15
I agree with stuff getting spread out....this way if stuff gets stolen they can't steal ALL of the items.:rolleyes:
Vote: wand of cleansing to White eyes, wand of healing to Elite Ferret, wand of protecting to ATPG and wand of hasting to Khaan.
Riedquat
12-11-2012, 01:18
Secondly, I don't really give a rat's behind about last-school-standing nonsense. I've never been this productive a townie in my life, so I'll take just finishing off the scum.
Fair enough, but its about time you lynch someone from the other scum team too! :yes:
Askthepizzaguy
12-11-2012, 04:18
Given that the school of water is now super motivated to finish the scum and win, assuming they can find the scums within their college, they should be fine to win.
Really, they need to soul-search to find the scum within, if any, though. I'd wager there are still some in there.
As for the Earth V Air stuff, I speak on behalf of the windy peoples when I say we're not going to go after them. If we find a scum in there we'll make it public.
I realize the purpose of the various colleges is to cause a divided town. Well the fact of the matter is, if scum wins, the wind college does not.
The water college defeating the fire college early means they've won this particular race fair and square. As the earth and water colleges are cooperating with us, it makes no sense whatsoever to pursue a partisan strategy.
We fight as one until the scum are done.
Can someone who has a little bit of time post a tally of the current item votes and lynch votes?
Also I agree with dividing up the items equitably. I'll trade my vote for an item for votes to give our college an item. Name what you want, we'll take what we can get out of whatever's left.
Vote: Kennigit
Tally
5 Kennigit: Visorslash, White_eyes:D, Chaotix, Elite Ferret, edse
1 Xenoneb: johnhughtom
1 Alsark: issaikhaan
1 Abstain: Xenoneb
8 No Vote: Captain Blackadder, Autolycus, Askthepizzaguy, Memnon, Alsark, Ironside, Kennigit, Robbiecon
I'll be back with an item list shortly
Vote: fire wand to white_eyes, water wand to Elite Ferret, earth wand to ATPG, air wand to Khaan and the Torch to Khaan
Tally
Torch
5 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash, Chaotix, Khaan, edse
1 johnhughtom: autolycus
Fire Wand
3 White eyes: Elite Ferret, White eyes, edse
2 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash
1 Alsark: autolycus
1 ATPG: Khaan
Water Wand
3 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash, khaan
3 Elite Ferret: Elite Ferret, White eyes, edse
1 ATPG: autolycus
Earth Wand
5 ATPG: Visorslash, Elite Ferret, Khaan, White eyes, edse
1 Khaan: johnhughtom,
1 Memnon. autolycus
Air Wand
5 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash, Elite Ferret, White eyes, edse
1 Robbiecon: autolycus
Riedquat
12-11-2012, 15:14
I have 4 questions...
Who killed LazyMcCrow?
Who killed Tincow?
Who the heck is Benny?
How many scum left are there?
sincere curiosity, honestly!
I was killed with a triple water attack, which was clearly coordinated. So, that means it was a group effort by Earth, Water, or scum. It would be useful if the Earth and Water representatives could let us know whether my death was from them, as if it was scum we'll know that there are at least three of them out there. FYI, we harbor no resentment over my death; admitting to it won't impact our decisions.
White_eyes:D
12-11-2012, 15:58
Given that the school of water is now super motivated to finish the scum and win, assuming they can find the scums within their college, they should be fine to win.
Really, they need to soul-search to find the scum within, if any, though. I'd wager there are still some in there.
And what would you have me do? I can't exactly plot against anyone in my college, unless I have some solid proof here.:brood:
If you guys would have finished off Kennigit, I might have been more focused on figuring out if scum are lurker in my college. As it stands, I can't 100% say it is not just Kennigit killing people.:shrug:
Riedquat
12-11-2012, 16:38
And what would you have me do? I can't exactly plot against anyone in my college, unless I have some solid proof here.:brood:
If you guys would have finished off Kennigit, I might have been more focused on figuring out if scum are lurker in my college. As it stands, I can't 100% say it is not just Kennigit killing people.:shrug:
:laugh4: ay! dead vote: kennigit die scum, die!!! :laugh4:
El Barto
12-11-2012, 17:13
Fair enough, but its about time you lynch someone from the other scum team too! :yes:
:laugh4: ay! dead vote: kennigit die scum, die!!! :laugh4:
Silence, kumquat!
Ironside
12-11-2012, 17:32
Vote: fire wand to white_eyes, water wand to Elite Ferret, earth wand to ATPG, air wand to Khaan and the Torch to Khaan
Also Vote: Kennigit
Askthepizzaguy
12-11-2012, 18:04
I was killed with a triple water attack, which was clearly coordinated. So, that means it was a group effort by Earth, Water, or scum. It would be useful if the Earth and Water representatives could let us know whether my death was from them, as if it was scum we'll know that there are at least three of them out there. FYI, we harbor no resentment over my death; admitting to it won't impact our decisions.
All I know is that johnhughthom was involved in your death.
Riedquat
12-11-2012, 18:55
Silence, kumquat!
Shush! You have no power over me!!
El Barto
12-11-2012, 20:41
All I know is that johnhughthom was involved in your death.
Then vote: johnhughthom!
Shush! You have no power over me!!
That's what you think.
All I know is that johnhughthom was involved in your death.
How do you know that?
johnhughthom
12-11-2012, 21:08
Especially as it isn't true.
day has ended
sorry for being late
Edse, thank you for the tallies
Lynch Tally
Kennigit (6): Visorslash, White_eyes:D, Chaotix, Elite Ferret, edse, Ironside
Xenoneb: johnhughtom
Alsark: issaikhaan
Abstain: Xenoneb
No Vote (7): Captain Blackadder, Autolycus, Askthepizzaguy, Memnon, Alsark, Kennigit, Robbiecon
Once more, Academy member were united. Once more, the chosen person was annihilated. It seems that once more it was a Defiler.
Kennigit was a Cult Enforcer, member of the Defilers
Item tallies:
Torch
6 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash, Chaotix, Khaan, edse, Ironside
1 johnhughtom: autolycus
Fire Wand
3 White eyes: Elite Ferret, White eyes, edse, Ironside
2 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash
1 Alsark: autolycus
1 ATPG: Khaan
Water Wand
4 Elite Ferret: Elite Ferret, White eyes, edse, Ironside
3 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash, khaan
1 ATPG: autolycus
Earth Wand
6 ATPG: Visorslash, Elite Ferret, Khaan, White eyes, edse, Ironside
1 Khaan: johnhughtom,
1 Memnon. autolycus
Air Wand
6 Khaan: johnhughtom, Visorslash, Elite Ferret, White eyes, edse, Ironside
1 Robbiecon: autolycus
Each wand go to player with most votes. Everburning Torch goes to Issaikhaan.
Night 8 begins!
ROFL
This has got to be the Gameroom record for most consecutive scum lynches.
Misunderstanding of the recruiting mechanic + townies disregarding the different factions + khaan's stroke of luck will do that :D
seireikhaan
12-11-2012, 23:43
Small request before y'all submit night orders- air school, quit beating up my students, or we might have problems.
El Barto
12-12-2012, 00:29
:2thumbsup: Woohoo!
Small request before y'all submit night orders- air school, quit beating up my students, or we might have problems.
Why do you think Air was responsible?
seireikhaan
12-12-2012, 01:09
Why do you think Air was responsible?
If they weren't, we have way more scum than there should be and we're completely boned.
If they weren't, we have way more scum than there should be and we're completely boned.
Since I'm dead I don't think I can comment on what Air did last night, but our friendly neighborhood Air claimant should be able to clear up that bit.
Are you also claiming that Earth wasn't responsible for my death?
seireikhaan
12-12-2012, 02:39
Since I'm dead I don't think I can comment on what Air did last night, but our friendly neighborhood Air claimant should be able to clear up that bit.
Are you also claiming that Earth wasn't responsible for my death?
Indeed. We had nothing to do with your demise. As for air, they know what they did last night, and I'll expect something different this time around.
White_eyes:D
12-12-2012, 07:27
Are you also claiming that Earth wasn't responsible for my death?
:shame:Your death was totally my fault, not the earth college's...but either target's the Water College had in mind outside of Kennigit were not good ones. Now that the fire college is gone, we don't need to play guessing games anymore as to who is in what faction. If the air faction still wants revenge in spite of this, I am sitting over in my room studying.:book:
Askthepizzaguy
12-12-2012, 09:21
I think it would be a good idea to claim credit for attacks after the fact and apologize for any unintentional damage caused, and that taking revenge be frowned upon.
Khaan, it won't happen again.
I have small problem.
I am not sure if I computed 'upgrades' that you all requested during last night; please look at your stats update that I will send in a minute, and see if the XP expenditure that you requested was made there.
Askthepizzaguy
12-12-2012, 10:51
Complex games are tricky to host, aren't they, Jarema?
I'm grateful for the extended sympathies I've gotten trying to host mine at TWC. If you haven't hosted a complex game before, you find it's like being crushed between two brick walls once you get there.
Sort it out Jarema, people are enjoying themselves. If the game has gone on for a while and people are still engaged, I feel it's a good game.
thanks
it is tasking, for sure.
i did not expect it would be so hard. esp. because I never hosted large game before, and now I am not only hosting large one, but also one with a lot of additional stuff (well 12 numbers per player - it is killing me...). If I knew in advance, I would make it more simple
but I feel I am getting better at it (and number of players is reducing...); I will manage it. And the problem I described... I saw it in the last moment when it has no real impact on the game (during day, stats does not matter, with possible exception for health)
johnhughthom
12-12-2012, 12:03
It's a minor mistake, easily corrected, Jarema. Don't sweat it, if you keep hosting large games you will eventually make a huge balls up. :clown:
And nobody will make a big deal over it. But, yes, hosting large games is tough. I have no idea how people cope with the likes of Capo and some of Pizza's bigger games.
thanks
it is tasking, for sure.
i did not expect it would be so hard. esp. because I never hosted large game before, and now I am not only hosting large one, but also one with a lot of additional stuff (well 12 numbers per player - it is killing me...). If I knew in advance, I would make it more simple
but I feel I am getting better at it (and number of players is reducing...); I will manage it. And the problem I described... I saw it in the last moment when it has no real impact on the game (during day, stats does not matter, with possible exception for health)
I agree with Pizza that it is a good game. Things will get easier once more people die.
Askthepizzaguy
12-12-2012, 12:32
I agree with Pizza that it is a good game. Things will get easier once more people die.
Personally I think it will get easier when we stomp all the mafia to bits and most of us are still alive.
Neener neener.
Personally I think it will get easier when we stomp all the mafia to bits and most of us are still alive.
Neener neener.
It does seem that way yes. :laugh4:
:shame:Your death was totally my fault, not the earth college's...but either target's the Water College had in mind outside of Kennigit were not good ones. Now that the fire college is gone, we don't need to play guessing games anymore as to who is in what faction. If the air faction still wants revenge in spite of this, I am sitting over in my room studying.:book:
Not a problem, and quite understandable. I was intentionally trying to keep my college affiliation as vague as possible, so I can't very well complain when that results in an attack on me. That's also good news, as I think we're now down to only one possible scum attack last night. I wasn't very pleased with the idea of three more scum still out there.
White_eyes:D
12-12-2012, 15:47
Funny part of it all is that if the water college has scum in it, I indirectly killed off Lazy. Nobody in the Water college had any idea who our new headmaster is and I kept hinting at it being Lazy.:grin2:
After the killing of El Barto and then the name-dropped Lazy, I can't rule anything out.:shrug:
Riedquat
12-12-2012, 16:22
Same way I keep thinking you are our cult master... don't forget you promised to resurrect me tonight!
Or was it tomorrow? :dizzy2:
El Barto
12-12-2012, 16:42
Funny part of it all is that if the water college has scum in it, I indirectly killed off Lazy. Nobody in the Water college had any idea who our new headmaster is and I kept hinting at it being Lazy.:grin2:
After the killing of El Barto and then the name-dropped Lazy, I can't rule anything out.:shrug:
Just avenge me by winning the game.
Same way I keep thinking you are our cult master... don't forget you promised to resurrect me tonight!
Or was it tomorrow? :dizzy2:
I repeat myself: Silence, kumquat!
Night would be extended.
one of the reasons is that I need some time to clean the mess in my game-related files
Second one, I think some of you are not aware that this night was going to be over in a couple of minutes from now. To make transition from long nights to short ones smoother, I will extend this night a little
Thank you for pm's about your stats. If someone, who did not yet pm me, feels I forgot to include his orders in his stats, please contact me.
Due to mess related to stats, I will send you update of them on the next day, to be sure everything is alright
This night was relatively peaceful
No one was killed, and no items were found.
Askthepizzaguy was thinking about a nature of world, when a stream of rather hot water was aimed at him. He dodged it without troubles, and tried to respond in kind, but attacker fled.
Alsark was cleaning his tools, when stone under his feet changed into mud, and then back to the stone, with his legs inside! After a moment, he managed to pull his leg out of floor, but they were badly hurt.
Deep in the catacombs of the College, in a hidden room, hooded character was conducting dark ritual. He was laying at the middle of a circle of candles. Then, when he stand up, all candles flared with flames. 'Dark Mistress, give me the power to enlighten non-believers', he prayed. With those words, he kneeled. During next two hours, he was chanting, reciting hymns, and offering sacrifices from his own blood. He was kneeling almost still, but his shadow was dancing around, swirling and whirling. At the end of ritual, hooded man used silver knife to separate shadow from his body. The mass of darkness slipped away from the ring of candles, and dissapeared in even deeper darkness surrounding it.
Day 9 begins
Askthepizzaguy
12-13-2012, 17:19
Vote: Edse
Avada Kedavra, evil one.
I forgot to say:
any dead character who wants to be spoiled can pm me and get knowledge about the game. But you will be forbidden to post in the game thread from this moment
Riedquat
12-13-2012, 19:11
I forgot to say:
any dead character who wants to be spoiled can pm me and get knowledge about the game. But you will be forbidden to post in the game thread from this moment
Its unfair to be tortured this way!!!
Its unfair to be tortured this way!!!
Red or blue pill?
[b]vote: Xenoneb[\b] isn't that how the taggs are supposed to look? Seems like I have to wait until tomorrow to vote.
[b]vote: Xenoneb[\b]
[b]vote: Xenoneb[ /b]
the second one is ok. slash/backslash mistake
You could also press the nice little button labeled "B" above the text box.
Like so: Vote: edse
You could also press the nice little button labeled "B" above the text box.
Or, the way I prefer it, select text and press ctrl + b
vote: xenoneb
I'm on a phone, so I have neither B-button nor ctrl. It would actually work better if I didn't use the mobile theme.
Vote: Edse
I'd appreciate if Earth people weren't trying to kill me :(.
Now I'm a bit concerned, who is saying what behind the scenes?
El Barto
12-14-2012, 00:39
Vote: Edse
Avada Kedavra, evil one.
Expelliarmus!
I forgot to say:
any dead character who wants to be spoiled can pm me and get knowledge about the game. But you will be forbidden to post in the game thread from this momentIts unfair to be tortured this way!!!
Please, spoil kumquat. I want him to be silenced.
Now I'm a bit concerned, who is saying what behind the scenes?
There be no connections, edse, as there be no PMs allowed. Are you complaining about being out of a nonexistent loop?
Now I'm a bit concerned, who is saying what behind the scenes?
What's your corruption score?
Is there a second elemental lens? I thought that one was buried with you TC?
EDIT: Nevermind the above.
seireikhaan
12-14-2012, 01:56
Vote: Edse
Claiming responsibility for Alsark. Dropping off the face of the earth once the pressure of votes is off you is a very good way to garner my suspicion.
Also, scum, have fun with the torch and wand. I couldn't hardly do anything useful with them anyways. :tongue: But I wouldn't mind it if y'all'd stop camping my inventory.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 02:00
Please, spoil kumquat. I want him to be silenced.
There was a way... but you lost it the moment town decided to lynch me, alive I would be very quiet! :quiet:
Now, someone care to tell why are you voting my mast.....err... edse? Corruption? Tincow was a bit corrupted and smelling bad and he was innocent, I was a bit corrupted too and was a little bad... so how corrupted and rotten do you think edse is? And what prove that? How many kills were done by him?
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 02:02
Just so you know...your all voting for the current Headmaster of water. Do you guys have any proof he is scum or are we just avoiding Xeno's save-voting himself from last round.:inquisitive:
Vote:Xenoneb
He was doing stuff at night(Hello, healing Chaotix, which he better confirm now).
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 02:13
Just so you know...your all voting for the current Headmaster of water. Do you guys have any proof he is scum or are we just avoiding Xeno's save-voting himself from last round.:inquisitive:
Vote:Xenoneb
He was doing stuff at night(Hello, healing Chaotix, which he better confirm now).
Lol... I wasn't so wrong he is a master after all... Interesting thing you all were happy going only after the rest of the scum but now voting the head of the winning school... keep it up guys! :laugh4:
johnhughthom
12-14-2012, 02:15
Vote: Xenoneb
Vote: Xenoneb
What white eyes says is true.
El Barto
12-14-2012, 02:18
There was a way... but you lost it the moment town decided to lynch me, alive I would be very quiet! :quiet:Riiight. You'd be lurking this thread, kumquat, you citrus-flavoured malevolent entity. I know it.
Now, someone care to tell why are you voting my mast.....err... edse? Corruption? Tincow was a bit corrupted and smelling bad and he was innocent, I was a bit corrupted too and was a little bad... so how corrupted and rotten do you think edse is? And what prove that? How many kills were done by him?
Is that a glass of Chianti I see in front of you?
Just so you know...your all voting for the current Headmaster of water. Do you guys have any proof he is scum
Erm… he's never posted in our QT, so how do you know this?
or are we just avoiding Xeno's save-voting himself from last round.:inquisitive:
Vote:Xenoneb
He was doing stuff at night(Hello, healing Chaotix, which he better confirm now).
Chaotix, attention, you're being called upon!
Unvote
Didn't know he was the HM.
Vote: Xenoneb
I have been healed before, but not last night if that's what you're asking.
El Barto
12-14-2012, 03:31
Ooooh, Xeno, no alibi for you. Whom did you attack?
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 04:27
I have been healed before, but not last night if that's what you're asking.
Well...on the night where Khaan was Mega attacked by three scumbags.
Just so you know...your all voting for the current Headmaster of water. Do you guys have any proof he is scum or are we just avoiding Xeno's save-voting himself from last round.:inquisitive:
Vote:Xenoneb
He was doing stuff at night(Hello, healing Chaotix, which he better confirm now).
He is not the starting headmaster, therefore the role does not prove anything about him. As I am dead I am not permitted to reveal information that isn't already public in the thread, but I will say that if I were alive there is nothing you could say that would get me to change my vote off of edse. I recommend you all vote for him.
Vote: Edse
Claiming responsibility for Alsark. Dropping off the face of the earth once the pressure of votes is off you is a very good way to garner my suspicion.
Also, scum, have fun with the torch and wand. I couldn't hardly do anything useful with them anyways. :tongue: But I wouldn't mind it if y'all'd stop camping my inventory.
Yeah, how about you cut that out instead? Some people have finals, 'ya know.
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 04:37
Thing is, I know what edse was doing on two nights in particular when there was major attacks by the scum. If the college's REALLY thought he was scum, then they should have just vig-killed him.:shrug:
Thing is, I know what edse was doing on two nights in particular when there was major attacks by the scum. If the college's REALLY thought he was scum, then they should have just vig-killed him.:shrug:
The vast majority of attacks have been claimed by the colleges throughout this game, so that proves relatively little.
I believe my headmaster might be scum. Unfortunately he won't give us his name. So I ask you, TinCow, Ironside, Riedquat, Elite Ferret, Autolycus, what college are you a member of?
And, I'll just go and quote this thing, just as a bit of a reminder.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 04:53
Fine, I'm done beating around the bush.
Edse's corruption score is absolutely monstrous. I scanned him last night. It's not a little bit, not a medium amount. He can't have that much corruption without being evil, AFAIK.
College of Water, you need to destroy your headmaster immediately, if you actually wish to win the game.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 04:56
For the record I have no connections to Xenoneb and as far as I know he's a fine vigilante kill.
I am not opposed to his death, but edse is scum to the highest degree of certainty I have in this game.
Fortunately we have a nice scale provided to us by our host to help us judge just how corrupt he is:
Corruption:
2. Levels of corruption: uncorrupted (0), mildly corrupted (1-2), moderately corrupted (3-4), severely corrupted (5 and more), utterly corrupted (special)
Based on this scale, what would you say edse's corruption level is, Mr. Pizzaguy? And what would that say about his role?
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 05:11
He is at maximum, utterly corrupted.
He cannot be an ordinary townie. There is no mistake.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 05:13
And since people can survive a divided vote, I really need the college of water's assistance on this.
I would not be asking for it if I wasn't sure.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 05:22
Vote: Edse
Claiming responsibility for Alsark.
Alsark is visible in the writeup attacking me for no damage. I have not cleared him to a degree of 100 percent certainty, but out of the list of legit suspects, I consider him well down the list, for now.
I say this not because he's in the college of wind, but because of what we know about him and how we are scrutinizing him, which you can see for yourself.
If you would leave him be, I would respond with a bow, courteously. :bow:
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 06:10
Ok, ok, but if you're wrong, you just made most of the Water college gain a bunch of corruption and I don't even wanna know what higher levels of the corruption do.:sweatdrop:
Unvote:Xenoneb Vote:edse
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 06:37
You must have been sitting on this information since TinCow died, but why reveal it now then?:inquisitive:
seireikhaan
12-14-2012, 06:59
Alsark is visible in the writeup attacking me for no damage. I have not cleared him to a degree of 100 percent certainty, but out of the list of legit suspects, I consider him well down the list, for now.
I say this not because he's in the college of wind, but because of what we know about him and how we are scrutinizing him, which you can see for yourself.
If you would leave him be, I would respond with a bow, courteously. :bow:
:bow:
Now stop it. Could everyone with access to the colleges head topic read the third post in it? The two first members of each college is confirmed innocent. Last night I promoted Visorslash, both he and white eyes can confirm it. And my corruption score is probably the lowest in the whole game with only 1 point for lynching someone innocent.
What he is saying is correct.
seireikhaan
12-14-2012, 08:24
Starting role is fairly irrelevant- anyone can gain corruption and/or be corrupted. We've got a cult that can recruit large numbers of people. As an original headmaster, I can claim with absolute certainty that while I and my original student *started* innocent, there is absolutely nothing that prevented us from taking steps to increase our corruption, so your point is null. I'm going to trust the results of the other schools as they trusted mine. :bow:
Starting role is fairly irrelevant- anyone can gain corruption and/or be corrupted. We've got a cult that can recruit large numbers of people. As an original headmaster, I can claim with absolute certainty that while I and my original student *started* innocent, there is absolutely nothing that prevented us from taking steps to increase our corruption, so your point is null. I'm going to trust the results of the other schools as they trusted mine. :bow:
Point is, he is "special" apparently. Which means he is townie power role, third party or other scum team. Special can't be gained.
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 09:18
I looked at the QT and the host himself states that both the Headmaster and the first wielder start innocent. Somebody is lying or grossly mistaken.
Either way if the college's want edse dead they can Vig-hit him and screw themselves over, I am not getting corruption points over this.:wall:
Unvote:edse Vote:Xenoneb
I am wondering if you scanned a headmaster before?:inquisitive:
To be fair, I don't believe starting innocent means incorruptible.
He might or might not be recruitable as a headmaster, I don't know. But he certainly must have been recruitable before he was promoted to headmaster.
Unvote, Vote: edse
Far as I am concerned, there is no reason to not trust ATPG's scan result. And there is no reason for a headmaster to be able to skew a scan result to make himself look deliberately guilty.
If it turns out ATPG was wrong about this, though... there will be hell to pay. I still have that katana, you know.
I HAVE 1 CORRUPTION POINT, STOP THIS MADNESS I have promoted white eyes and visor, i have healed chaotix, I was confirmed innocent from the beginning and have been attacked by the water wielding scum night one.
Ironside
12-14-2012, 10:03
I looked at the QT and the host himself states that both the Headmaster and the first wielder start innocent. Somebody is lying or grossly mistaken.
Either way if the college's want edse dead they can Vig-hit him and screw themselves over, I am not getting corruption points over this.:wall:
Unvote:edse Vote:Xenoneb
I am wondering if you scanned a headmaster before?:inquisitive:
Starting innocent. There has to be recruitement in this game, since the defilers can't have started with those numbers. And why would a headmaster have utterly corrupt as a status?
There's a few options.
1. ATPG lies. That would risk him for lynch or vig immidiatly afterwards. Very unlikely at this point of the game.
2. Someone framed the scan. Possible, but unlikely, since edse haven't been public enough that someone could guess that he would be scanned.
3. Edse is guilty. That could explain a lot of erratic behavior from your guild. Or he was the target of the ritual last night (it sounds to be someone able to corrupt people now rather than a specific target, but it is a possibillity).
I'm guessing that the defilers have problems getting into the guilds based on that it haven't been a single guilded defiler. The other scum faction is probably the opposite then.
Vote: edse
Starting innocent. There has to be recruitement in this game, since the defilers can't have started with those numbers. And why would a headmaster have utterly corrupt as a status?
As a starting innocent I'm confirmed not to be mafia.
Regarding me being cult: I have voted for three of the four lynched cultist (was away when Riedquat was lynched). We know the corruption score for two of them, it was around 3-4. How would I, as a recruit, have gained an "utterly corrupted (special)" level of corruptness?
NinjaCow64
12-14-2012, 10:45
Yeah guys, lynch the water headmaster. While you're at it, lynch all the water players. You can't be too sure.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 10:57
In all seriousness, there's cults in this game.
Not cult, CULTS.
"Starting innocent" means what?
Jack diddley squat.
Edse's corruption rating is through the roof. He does not have 1 point of corruption.
Unless he can explain where he got all that corruption, he dies. Since he didn't claim any role that would appear to be utterly corrupt, he dies.
I'm a confirmed townie mason. The fact that I'm not dead already is frankly, stupid. But if that's the game we're playing, I have a scanning item, and I scanned edse, and he's utterly corrupt, and I'm utterly townie.
If edse does not flip scum, you can point the blame directly at Jarema. If he's not scum then my item is a worthless piece of garbage, or the scums have the ability to manipulate a scan.
In any case, we won't know until he dies. And if he dies and flips townie, kill me if you fancy. I really don't care.
I have 1 point of Corruption, nothing more. It isn't even possible for me to have such a high score that you say I have. And why do you say that there are cults? Where did you get that information?
Lets find the people without college instead.
Water
Chaotix
Edse
Visorslash
White eyes:D
Robbiecon
Air
Askthepizzaguy
Alsark
Elite Ferret
Earth
Issaikhaan
Ironside
Johnhughtom
Unknown
Captain Blackadder
Autolycus
Memnon
Xenoneb
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 11:26
I have 1 point of Corruption, nothing more. It isn't even possible for me to have such a high score that you say I have. And why do you say that there are cults? Where did you get that information?
Rules//
Information regarding the Setup:
1. There would be at least two scum factions
As for it isn't possible, well.... it's written in the rules what sorts of corruption levels there are. So my guess is you're claiming my scan was completely spoofed.
Duly noted.
And a tally while I'm at it.
6 edse: ATPG, Chaotix, Elite Ferret, Alsark, issaikhaan, Ironside
4 Xenoneb: edse, johnhughtom, Visorslash, White_eyes:D
5 No Vote: Captain Blackadder, Autolycus, Memnon, Xenoneb, Robbiecon
"There would be at least two scum factions" doesn't mean two cults. Rather one cult and one mafia.
My history:
Night 1: Nothing
Night 2: Nothing again
Night 3: Attacked jht
Night 4: Defend
Night 5: Healed Chaotix
Night 6: Promote White_eyes
Night 7: Defend
Night 8: Promote Visorslash
I was attacked night 1 for 2 points of damage.
I got 1 corruption point for lynching NinjaCow64 day 3
I have about 9 XP, I've spent 5 on raising AV/DV and 3 on raising HP.
Where does all the corruption come from? If I used all my current XP on corruption I would reach 4. I wouldn't have reached a level of 6 even if I had used all my XP on corruption and you claim that my score is somewhere closer to 10.
I do realise that I sound like a scum that has done everything right and then get lynched for something ridiculous, but you should understand that there is no way that scan result can be correct. I know Pizza is town so I don't distrust him, but the method or thing he used to scan me is faulty.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 14:06
This is too amusing!! I won't defend edse, I honestly don't know if he is scum or not, not playing with your minds here as I've been doing so far, but why you people don't do the math? How many xp he would need to achieve so high levels of corruption? In what else he invested points? Is there a way to prove that?
That huge amount of corruption seems odd to me, I was cultivating it and wasn't so easy. :inquisitive: I'm sincerely intrigued...
Edit: uh...doh I should have read entirely edse's post first. But there is a couple valid points there... If I were alive I would be believing you and of course voting for you, I'm scum!
I think all you suspect what is happening here, what better way to dismember the water school than cutting his head off? Now I'm playing with your minds again... but that happening is a possibility! :yes:
Edse is either the cult leader, or someone is lying.
If we lynch Edse, and he is town, then the air college will have hell to pay.
This is too amusing!! I won't defend edse, I honestly don't know if he is scum or not, not playing with your minds here as I've been doing so far, but why you people don't do the math? How many xp he would need to achieve so high levels of corruption? In what else he invested points? Is there a way to prove that?
That huge amount of corruption seems odd to me, I was cultivating it and wasn't so easy. :inquisitive: I'm sincerely intrigued...
The only possible reason would be a special role or cult leader, or someone is lying.
NinjaCow64
12-14-2012, 14:18
"Starting innocent" means what?
Jack diddley squat.
I'm a confirmed townie mason. The fact that I'm not dead already is frankly, stupid. But if that's the game we're playing, I have a scanning item, and I scanned edse, and he's utterly corrupt, and I'm utterly townie.
8166
There's a contradiction here. If you are a confirmed mason, then why wouldn't the cult have converted you yet? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for lynching edse, but unless there is something that prevents you from being converted, then you should be scanned at the very least. And you should be put to the stake if edse is innocent. With two Cults almost everyone is going to get converted eventually.
Stats updates sent.
As middle of day is coming, I want to remind you that night will be short. If you want, you can send me night orders in advance, just name the pm's as night orders
8166
There's a contradiction here. If you are a confirmed mason, then why wouldn't the cult have converted you yet? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for lynching edse, but unless there is something that prevents you from being converted, then you should be scanned at the very least. And you should be put to the stake if edse is innocent. With two Cults almost everyone is going to get converted eventually.
WAIT. A scanning item?
ATPG what rank are you?
Edit: uh...doh I should have read entirely edse's post first. But there is a couple valid points there... If I were alive I would be believing you and of course voting for you, I'm scum!
I think all you suspect what is happening here, what better way to dismember the water school than cutting his head off? Now I'm playing with your minds again... but that happening is a possibility!
To be honest, what you say is a very real possibility. And knowing ATPG, even more real.
We have a very clear situation here. ATPG claims that he scanned edse and that edse showed up as "utterly corrupted." The rules clearly state that this is a very high level of corruption and it is apparently a special state that avoids the usual numbers. edse, on the other hand, claims he has 1 corruption. One of these two people are lying, which means we have caught a scum. This is a pretty standard situation. When someone reveals a guilty investigation result, the proper course of action is to lynch the accused (in this case, edse). If the lynch then turns out to be wrong, you lynch the accuser (in this case, ATPG). Mafia 101. In any case, do any of you really think that scum-ATPG would fabricate a non-ambiguous investigation result in a game where the guilt or innocence of players is immediately disclosed upon their death?
I think all you suspect what is happening here, what better way to dismember the water school than cutting his head off? Now I'm playing with your minds again... but that happening is a possibility! :yes:
Impossible, because Air had no idea edse was the headmaster until it was posted in the thread in his defense.
We have a very clear situation here. ATPG claims that he scanned edse and that edse showed up as "utterly corrupted." The rules clearly state that this is a very high level of corruption and it is apparently a special state that avoids the usual numbers. edse, on the other hand, claims he has 1 corruption. One of these two people are lying, which means we have caught a scum. This is a pretty standard situation. When someone reveals a guilty investigation result, the proper course of action is to lynch the accused (in this case, edse). If the lynch then turns out to be wrong, you lynch the accuser (in this case, ATPG). Mafia 101. In any case, do any of you really think that scum-ATPG would fabricate a non-ambiguous investigation result in a game where the guilt or innocence of players is immediately disclosed upon their death?
There is a third option, we are both telling the truth but something messed with the scan and we end up with two dead townies if we follow standard procedures.
Clutching at straws much?
Yeah that sounds like desperation.
Unvote; Vote: Edse
There is a third option, something messed with the scan and we end up with two dead townies if we follow standard procedures.
While that's possible, it's extremely unlikely. For that to be true, we'd have to assume that someone became aware that ATPG was going to scan you before he did. That person would then have to be able to be free to perform a night action without being suspected by their college-mates. Finally, that person would have to have an item or ability that would screw up the investigation, and we've never heard of anything that can do that. So, possible, but very unlikely. The fact that you're so readily willing to grasp at that exceptional unlikeliness is scummy. A typical townie reaction would be to stick to the 'ATPG is framing me' argument, as that's by far the most likely situation if you are innocent. Your willingness to promote a third option indicates that you know ATPG is innocent, which indicates that you are scum.
While that's possible, it's extremely unlikely. For that to be true, we'd have to assume that someone became aware that ATPG was going to scan you before he did. That person would then have to be able to be free to perform a night action without being suspected by their college-mates. Finally, that person would have to have an item or ability that would screw up the investigation, and we've never heard of anything that can do that. So, possible, but very unlikely. The fact that you're so readily willing to grasp at that exceptional unlikeliness is scummy. A typical townie reaction would be to stick to the 'ATPG is framing me' argument, as that's by far the most likely situation if you are innocent. Your willingness to promote a third option indicates that you know ATPG is innocent, which indicates that you are scum.
But I know I'm innocent and, just as you, don't believe that ATPG would claim a false result, therefore I believe something messed up the scan.
And Visorslash, I promoted you last night, was that something a scum would do?
But I know I'm innocent and, just as you, don't believe that ATPG would claim a false result, therefore I believe something messed up the scan.
And Visorslash, I promoted you last night, was that something a scum would do?
Possibly? Alibi and all? I don't know, and I don't really want to lynch you. But if you're scum you have to go. And if you come up town, bye bye Pizza.
But I know I'm innocent and, just as you, don't believe that ATPG would claim a false result, therefore I believe something messed up the scan.
You seem awfully certain that ATPG isn't scum. That's rather remarkable for someone being 'falsely' accused of a crazy corruption score. I love this one too:
I know Pizza is town so I don't distrust him, but the method or thing he used to scan me is faulty.
You know ATPG is town? How? I'm was in his college and even I didn't know that. I give him the benefit of the doubt and stand by that decision, but I certainly don't know he is town.
You seem awfully certain that ATPG isn't scum. That's rather remarkable for someone being 'falsely' accused of a crazy corruption score. I love this one too:
You know ATPG is town? How? I'm was in his college and even I didn't know that. I give him the benefit of the doubt and stand by that decision, but I certainly don't know he is town.
he was a town mason and what mafia would fabricate a scan result that will lead to his lynch the following day?
he was a town mason and what mafia would fabricate a scan result that will lead to his lynch the following day?
As others have pointed out, he could have been recruited, just like you. The rest of us are aware of that and are taking it into account, but you don't seem to think it's even an option despite being very open-minded about what could have caused that scan result. PIS much?
As others have pointed out, he could have been recruited, just like you. The rest of us are aware of that and are taking it into account, but you don't seem to think it's even an option despite being very open-minded about what could have caused that scan result. PIS much?
Why won't you listen? what mafia would fabricate a scan result that will lead to his lynch the following day? This will end in two dead townies.
Why won't you listen? what mafia would fabricate a scan result that will lead to his lynch the following day?
Few. That's why I think the result is accurate.
Few. That's why I think the result is accurate.
but I know it isn't accurate so therefore I don't believe that ATPG is scum. Do you understand now?
There's a difference between believing and knowing. You claimed to know.
I strongly believe that ATPG is town and that he isn't framing me.
Look at what I said about the corruption score, it is not possible.
I request mercy today so that I can be scanned a second time. Block me, use anti-corruption spells or whatever as well. I will heal someone of your choice. No one have anything against lynching Xenoneb.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 16:33
Bah... the third possibility is a possibility very remote, if Atpg is fabricating the result then there is an ulterior motive to do so and his lynch is a calculated risk, that is more credible than something messing with the scan.
Edit:
I request mercy today so that I can be scanned a second time. Block me, use anti-corruption spells or whatever as well. I will heal someone of your choice. No one have anything against lynching Xenoneb.
This desperation for keep breathing is so scummy... if you were my master all this time please come to our quick-topic and say so, all this is so disconcerting...
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 18:17
I'm not advocating letting edse go, but he sounds like a townie who has gotten framed.
Edse, are you holding any magical items which could disrupt my scan? Something like that whole "dagger of corruption" that was found on one of the scumbags?
I imagine the scums have items which are corrupt in and of themselves. Did you get your hands on one, edse? If so, how?
And if so, why have you failed to mention it?
I have no such item. The only thing I have is the sculpture that belongs to the Water College.
El Barto
12-14-2012, 18:37
Dammit, kumquat keeps posting.
I do realise that I sound like a scum that has done everything right and then get lynched for something ridiculous, but you should understand that there is no way that scan result can be correct. I know Pizza is town so I don't distrust him, but the method or thing he used to scan me is faulty.
Yeah right… I wish both you and Xenoneb could be lynched in one same day.
Edse is either the cult leader, or someone is lying.
Yes, one or the other.
If we lynch Edse, and he is town, then the air college will have hell to pay.
Nothing short of the total annihilation of the Air College would be in order.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 18:41
I have no such item. The only thing I have is the sculpture that belongs to the Water College.
Now I'm upset.
Wouldn't a scumbag claim to have an item as a reason for my investigation being spoofed? Wouldn't edse-as-scum at least lie, or something?
The dude is staring at what amounts to be the most ironclad investigation in the game that we have for finding cultists, and he's making the corrupt-o-meter go completely batshit. But he won't offer any explanation, even a lie, as to why that is.
But I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would bother to spoof an investigation of edse. The fire college is gone. If I wanted to win the partisan way, I'd be attacking Khaan or Khaan's buddies, so I have no motive to lie here.
You know what?
Screw investigation results. There's something wrong here, and I do intend to find out what it is.
Edse does not need to die immediately. But he's nearly off the scale in terms of corruption, by scan, by an item that should have no trouble detecting such.
By all the rules of mafia games ever, edse is guilty guilty guilty. Don't ever forget this.
But Askthepizzaguy says: Detectives suck. They disconnect our brains. My brain says, there's something wrong here, and it's not Pizza being guilty and faking a detective result either. Talking with Edse, I actually believe him more than I believe the scan.
Well, not quite. If Jarema's scan can't be trusted, then there's something wrong with the item. Or there's another possibility.
Scum have the power to hide their corrupt-ness, according to the rules. So we know they can mess with detective results one way.
If that's the case, that means detective results are not 100 percent reliable.
And, it also leaves the door open for the possibility, however remote, that they could also inflict bad detective results onto others.
Why wouldn't the cult leader be able to hide his corruption score? Why would a cult leader appear massively corrupt when it says in the rules, they can hide their corruption? They have ways of doing so?
Mark this moment in mafia history: If Edse is actually a townie, and Pizza guessed right on that in spite of a detective result that would tell me otherwise, I win the thread forever.
If I let Edse go after scanning him dead to rights, I lose the thread forever.
Unvote Edse
Vote Xenoneb
This move tells you what I really think of detectives. Detectives blow.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 18:43
Nothing short of the total annihilation of the Air College would be in order.
Am wondering what my mason partner is smoking in the afterlife.
You don't see how single-minded and uncritical such thinking is?
Detective results are supposed to help us deduce where the scums are- they aren't guaranteed. You still require a central nervous system to determine for yourself whether or not you believe the detective.
I don't believe the detective and I'm the detective.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 18:47
If this is a plot to destroy both Edse and my credibility, then it stands to reason: the architects of this plot also joined in on accusing Edse, and are also advocating severe consequences for his mislynch.
Wand of suspicion: Those people.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 19:07
I'm not advocating letting edse go, but he sounds like a townie who has gotten framed.
Edse, are you holding any magical items which could disrupt my scan? Something like that whole "dagger of corruption" that was found on one of the scumbags?
I imagine the scums have items which are corrupt in and of themselves. Did you get your hands on one, edse? If so, how?
And if so, why have you failed to mention it?
Ok, this is weird, more coming form you. From where comes this idea of an item with so great capabilities? Arjos had the dagger when was lynched, how much corruption do you think that item added to the scan result?
An item adding so much corruption to his owner can't exist.
How are you planning to clear edse if not by investigation?
Yeah right… I wish both you and Xenoneb could be lynched in one same day.
Just tie the vote…
Ironside
12-14-2012, 21:18
Night 1: Nothing
Night 2: Nothing again
Night 4: Defend
Night 7: Defend
I was attacked night 1 for 2 points of damage.
Why??? That's not actions done by a good water guild player. In fact, those are horrible choises.
3. There would be 'vanilla' newbies among townies. They would be able to join elemental colleges. Majority of scum players would be hiding among them
I think we'll have to consider the option that Jarema can be lying. Only non-vanilla townie left know to us is ATPG (seems to be 'vanilla' mason) and while it is possible for him to be lying, edse's night actions are screaming scum.
seireikhaan
12-14-2012, 21:35
No, quit it. If we're not following investigations just because of the desperate protestations of the accused, then I don't even know what we're doing here. Lynch edse- use our freakin' brains here. We've got a result, and they've not failed yet. Stop sissy-footing around. There's nothing in Edse's protestations that actually do anything remotely close to clearing him.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 21:36
Why??? That's not actions done by a good water guild player. In fact, those are horrible choises.
What actions are good for a water-dude? And what actions can be carried by a master? What he mean by nothing? Who am I? So confused!
Dammit, kumquat keeps posting.
Why does that bother you, scared he'll reveal something about you and your mason buddy? :stare:
What better indication of scum can there be than a result of 'utterly corrupted'? Worst case scenario of this lynch is we learn something and lose one townie, whose night actions are questionable at best. I'm willing to take that risk.
Why??? That's not actions done by a good water guild player. In fact, those are horrible choises.
I think we'll have to consider the option that Jarema can be lying. Only non-vanilla townie left know to us is ATPG (seems to be 'vanilla' mason) and while it is possible for him to be lying, edse's night actions are screaming scum.
Au contraire
The first night I asked Andres about permision for my orders and then forgot to send them. The second night I was celebrating my mother's 60th birthday.
Night four. Andres had died the night before and I was the only wielder in the college. My top priority that night was to stay alive so I could become headmaster. If I had died that night the Water college would have lost.
Night sevens defend order was due to me having no time at all.
So two of my very scummy night orders were with the very best of the Water college in mind and the other two was caused by a lack of time.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 21:48
No, quit it. If we're not following investigations just because of the desperate protestations of the accused, then I don't even know what we're doing here. Lynch edse- use our freakin' brains here. We've got a result, and they've not failed yet. Stop sissy-footing around. There's nothing in Edse's protestations that actually do anything remotely close to clearing him.
Completely agree with khaan here, scans haven't failed once! Lynch edse now and vig the rest of water college at night!!!
This is amusing! :)
No, quit it. If we're not following investigations just because of the desperate protestations of the accused, then I don't even know what we're doing here. Lynch edse- use our freakin' brains here. We've got a result, and they've not failed yet. Stop sissy-footing around. There's nothing in Edse's protestations that actually do anything remotely close to clearing him.
It is impossible for me to have such a high score, understand that. I was starting innocent, only possibility for me to be evil is if i've been recruited but why would I then have a score worthy a cult leader or godfather?
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 22:02
I bet you dollars to donuts if you're innocent, edse, that the scum deliberately are keeping me alive, and spoofing my investigation result on purpose.
I asked for orders, I was told to scan you. The person who asked, is innocent.
However, others will have seen those orders. And so, the scum may have known who I was scanning.
Maybe the point wasn't to make "edse" look bad, but to make "whoever I was scanning" look bad. Which in turn, makes the scanning pointless for town and advantageous to the scums.
We haven't even hit the other scum team yet. As such, nobody is written off as being innocent except the starting headmasters. And myself, but that's because I possess the Askthepizzaguy card. Kill me if you need to see it.
Nah. I get the feeling someone is deliberately pulling my strings. I will not be anyone's puppet.
I was told to scan edse, and I scanned him. I faithfully reported the result. But I possess my own brain. Don't tell me what I can or cannot think.
Edse might be innocent, and I could be being :daisy:ed with. We know investigation results can be spoofed.
I'm not gonna be your monkey, scumbags. Find someone else.
Riedquat
12-14-2012, 22:15
Why does that bother you, scared he'll reveal something about you and your mason buddy? :stare:
He is dead, I'm dead... no way any of us can reveal anything, if his buddy is anything else of what he claimed to be then it wasn't of El Barto knowledge while alive.
It is impossible for me to have such a high score, understand that. I was starting innocent, only possibility for me to be evil is if i've been recruited but why would I then have a score worthy a cult leader or godfather?
I asked town earlier to do the math, and thing is, if your actions were a bit different every night is very possible for you to have 6-7 corruption with a combination of xp spending and kills.
I'm not gonna be your monkey, scumbags. Find someone else.
lol... sorry, but my master says that is not acceptable, you are the best candidate to be our monkey here!
johnhughthom
12-14-2012, 22:20
Unvote; Vote: edse
Ah, there we go. It was somewhat disconcerting having ATPG acting rationally in a game.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 22:29
Ah, there we go. It was somewhat disconcerting having ATPG acting rationally in a game.
If he flips townie, what will you say to me?
You can see for yourself in the quicktopic that I was given the scanning item without asking for it, and told who to scan. If he flips townie, what do you conclude?
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 22:43
Sometimes the rational thing is the wrong thing.
In Hitman's Gambit I convinced people to lynch the detective simply because I claimed first and I had no motive to lie if I was scum, because I would die next. As a SK, I lose.
Rational doesn't mean correct. I was lying, the detective died, town lost. I had no reason to expect to win, I was lying because it was FUN.
In That Creeping Darkness I claimed detective and said I had a guilty result, just because town was running around like chickens with their heads cut off and they needed leadership. Absent a detective claim there wasn't going to be any. And that's how CDF's cult went down, and me a vanilla townie got murdered for, what most people rationally assumed, being a detective.
Here's something else that's rational. The rules say we can scan a scumbag and they can hide their corruption score. Not only that, there are items in the game. At least one of which, was an item of corruption.
So I have two different things that I rationally KNOW are true, because we've seen them before, which indicate a false level of corruption.
And I am being handed a detective item, and being told who to scan.
Now I did my job and faithfully reported the results. But listening to edse, he's giving off all the signs one gives off of being a framed townie.
If experience, and intuition, and gut, and all those sorts of things that make us not automatons means anything, then those things are telling me, we're deliberately being messed with.
If he were that guilty, he should be able to hide it better.
According to the rules. I should be scanning people and finding relatively low corruption levels and they're guilty. These corruption scans shouldn't be able to tell us that much at this point, really.
If he were guilty, why does he have absolutely no explanation for his corruption score?
He could fake one if he was guilty. Not having an alibi tells me he never had to think of one, because... um... he never expected to be caught with maximum corruption? Maybe because he's not corrupt at all?
Why didn't he at least lie about having a corrupt item? Grab at any straws? I fed him a straw to grasp at and he didn't grasp at it.
What scum on his deathbed isn't going to at least TRY TO LIE TO ME???
Call me irrational. Go ahead. But rational thinking is all inside the box. And I prefer to think of myself as someone who can think his way out of a cardboard box.
Tell me exactly what is wrong with doubting this.
He's going to be lynched anyway. And rationally, guess who gets lynched after him if he flips innocent?
Now why would I be trying to stop his lynch here, if I'm scum?
All your rational thinking is going to get you in a world of hurt.
I'll deal with that if it happens. You're foolish if you think sparing edse at this point will benefit the town even if he is innocent, which I doubt. He's got such a large weight around his neck now that he will be a drag on all lynch phases from here on out until he's dead.
That reply was to your first post. Your second just gives me a headache and I won't be responding to it, no offense.
Askthepizzaguy
12-14-2012, 22:56
That reply was to your first post. Your second just gives me a headache and I won't be responding to it, no offense.
If after the game, edse has flipped town, and it's revealed that I'm a town mason, I want you to go back to that post and read it.
Might help you understand me. We're both intelligent fellows but in mafia it seems like we're always on the opposite sides of the argument. Sometimes you're right, but when you're wrong, I am correct.
If you can follow why I'm right when I'm right maybe we won't always be on opposite sides of an argument?
johnhughthom
12-14-2012, 23:17
Where's the fun in that?
I request to be scanned once more. We have so far only lynched members of the cult, when we try to find the members of the second scum team (that probably can't recruit), starting innocents will be worth a lot. I believe there are only three of us left.
This will be my last post for today, when I wake up tomorrow I want you to have answered the following questions: When was I recruited? How did I gain the highest score possible? What evil things have I done as cult? Why have I lynched my fellow cultists? Why have I continued to promote people in my college?
I myself will try to find the answer to "how can they trust a scan result that is obviously wrong?"
If you can follow why I'm right when I'm right maybe we won't always be on opposite sides of an argument?
Hey, I was with you this entire game right up until you decided that what is essentially a guilty detective result shouldn't be followed up with a lynching. I understand your gut feeling, but a guilty result is a guilty result. There is only one way to play that and that is to lynch the target. If anything, it's an even easier decision in this game when we will instantly know if the decision was right or wrong. Being right is to our advantage because is eliminates a scum. Being wrong is to our advantage because it clearly uncovers some skullduggery of some sort. The only thing that isn't to our advantage at this point is ignoring the lynch and letting the situation fester.
White_eyes:D
12-14-2012, 23:40
But seriously, did you ever scan a headmaster before this? I personally believe that they flip "Special" in there corruption score.
Regardless, I VERY suspicious of the Air Colleges motive's by how ATPG is acting. (It's like he knows that the result is going to be an innocent townie and is trying to redirect blame):inquisitive:
Being right is to our advantage because is eliminates a scum. Being wrong is to our advantage because it clearly uncovers some skullduggery of some sort. The only thing that isn't to our advantage at this point is ignoring the lynch and letting the situation fester.
Exactly how I feel.
Regardless, I VERY suspicious of the Air Colleges motive's by how ATPG is acting. (It's like he knows that the result is going to be an innocent townie and is trying to redirect blame):inquisitive:
What would the aeromancers have to gain by lynching the head of the water college? Especially as if it turns out he's innocent it could make ATPG look suspicious. If they wanted to get rid of the water college they'd be better off doing so at night. But there is no reason for them to want to get rid of the water college anyway, if they were going for the partisan win they'd be far better off going after the geodudes.
White_eyes:D
12-15-2012, 01:34
Because I know edse is going to flip townie and then we have lost the only person in the college who had "confirmed innocent" status. :brood:
Regardless, this is a huge insult that they didn't just night-kill edse instead of making me question the other members loyalty's.:wall:
NinjaCow64
12-15-2012, 02:14
Unvote; Vote: edse
NO, JOHN, NO!!!
Sometimes the rational thing is the wrong thing.
In Hitman's Gambit I convinced people to lynch the detective simply because I claimed first and I had no motive to lie if I was scum, because I would die next. As a SK, I lose.
Rational doesn't mean correct. I was lying, the detective died, town lost. I had no reason to expect to win, I was lying because it was FUN.
In That Creeping Darkness I claimed detective and said I had a guilty result, just because town was running around like chickens with their heads cut off and they needed leadership. Absent a detective claim there wasn't going to be any. And that's how CDF's cult went down, and me a vanilla townie got murdered for, what most people rationally assumed, being a detective.
Here's something else that's rational. The rules say we can scan a scumbag and they can hide their corruption score. Not only that, there are items in the game. At least one of which, was an item of corruption.
So I have two different things that I rationally KNOW are true, because we've seen them before, which indicate a false level of corruption.
And I am being handed a detective item, and being told who to scan.
Now I did my job and faithfully reported the results. But listening to edse, he's giving off all the signs one gives off of being a framed townie.
If experience, and intuition, and gut, and all those sorts of things that make us not automatons means anything, then those things are telling me, we're deliberately being messed with.
If he were that guilty, he should be able to hide it better.
According to the rules. I should be scanning people and finding relatively low corruption levels and they're guilty. These corruption scans shouldn't be able to tell us that much at this point, really.
If he were guilty, why does he have absolutely no explanation for his corruption score?
He could fake one if he was guilty. Not having an alibi tells me he never had to think of one, because... um... he never expected to be caught with maximum corruption? Maybe because he's not corrupt at all?
Why didn't he at least lie about having a corrupt item? Grab at any straws? I fed him a straw to grasp at and he didn't grasp at it.
What scum on his deathbed isn't going to at least TRY TO LIE TO ME???
Call me irrational. Go ahead. But rational thinking is all inside the box. And I prefer to think of myself as someone who can think his way out of a cardboard box.
Tell me exactly what is wrong with doubting this.
He's going to be lynched anyway. And rationally, guess who gets lynched after him if he flips innocent?
Now why would I be trying to stop his lynch here, if I'm scum?
All your rational thinking is going to get you in a world of hurt.
You know Pizza, your post is complete WIFOM. I could get drunk reading that, that's how much wine is in that post. Seriously.
I know my position is completely biased, but still. I really can't imagine a world where the scum haven't infiltrated the Colleges. Especially the giant Water College, which seemed to invite every single bloody person in the town. And Pizza you are acting weird. Townie weird, I give you that, but still weird. There is something very fishy about this barrel and edse is at the bottom of it, I just know it. So we must kill him. FOR FIRE!!!
NO, JOHN, NO!!!
You know Pizza, your post is complete WIFOM. I could get drunk reading that, that's how much wine is in that post. Seriously.
I know my position is completely biased, but still. I really can't imagine a world where the scum haven't infiltrated the Colleges. Especially the giant Water College, which seemed to invite every single bloody person in the town. And Pizza you are acting weird. Townie weird, I give you that, but still weird. There is something very fishy about this barrel and edse is at the bottom of it, I just know it. So we must kill him. FOR FIRE!!!
Hey we don't have that many people!
There are like 15 players left and we have 5. That is one third in a town composed of three colleges. Maybe you guys just under-recruited.
Also I am generally in agreement with TinCow on this. If we don't lynch edse, that is unfortunately always going to be hanging over us at every lynch. We're not going to know what is up with the scan result unless he is actually dead - otherwise we can just guess and speculate. I don't want to lynch my headmaster, but a guilty result is a guilty result.
Hey we don't have that many people!
There are like 15 players left and we have 5. That is one third in a town composed of three colleges. Maybe you guys just under-recruited.
Also I am generally in agreement with TinCow on this. If we don't lynch edse, that is unfortunately always going to be hanging over us at every lynch. We're not going to know what is up with the scan result unless he is actually dead - otherwise we can just guess and speculate. I don't want to lynch my headmaster, but a guilty result is a guilty result.
Scan me again, and again. The only thing speaking against me is that one scan, AND IT CAN'T POSSIBLE BE TRUE. The only ones with a reason to vote for me is the non recruiting mafia. With me and Pizza dead there is only one or two left of the starting innocents.
There's probably only one or two left of the cult, the mafia should be four. Chaotix, Elite Ferret and Xenoneb are scum. Lynch them next instead of Pizza.
White_eyes:D
12-15-2012, 06:55
The most disturbing part about all this is that, I think that night write-up about that guy having a shadow separate from his body was a recruitment attempt. I think that makes it clear the scum just wanted one more night to dig-in and now that they have it....:wall:
Scan me again, and again. The only thing speaking against me is that one scan, AND IT CAN'T POSSIBLE BE TRUE. The only ones with a reason to vote for me is the non recruiting mafia. With me and Pizza dead there is only one or two left of the starting innocents.
There's probably only one or two left of the cult, the mafia should be four. Chaotix, Elite Ferret and Xenoneb are scum. Lynch them next instead of Pizza.
Unvote, Vote: Xenoneb
edse, if we get your scan back tomorrow and you are still guilty, I'll kill you myself.
In my experience, letting the guilty-scanned guy live is never a good idea. Even if it turns out it was a false scan there will always be doubt, and then the lynch could be turned on you later when we have found the real scum. That said, I still do think you are guilty.
seireikhaan
12-15-2012, 07:03
Scan me again, and again. The only thing speaking against me is that one scan, AND IT CAN'T POSSIBLE BE TRUE. The only ones with a reason to vote for me is the non recruiting mafia. With me and Pizza dead there is only one or two left of the starting innocents.
There's probably only one or two left of the cult, the mafia should be four. Chaotix, Elite Ferret and Xenoneb are scum. Lynch them next instead of Pizza.
Eh... no. We should lynch you. There's plenty of reason for it to be true. You could have been corrupted in a number of ways that we can't verify, since you so rarely show on nights. You claim the investigation is bad/wrong/fraudulent? What's stopping it from *continuing* to be fraudulent? If someone can throw off investigation results, they'll just hit you again and we'll be dancing this same dance tomorrow.
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