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Jarema
10-25-2012, 11:03
Academy of Elemental Magic
Large Mafia Game


https://i.imgur.com/yJ57A.png


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"Welcome in the halls of our great Academy, young ones. I am head of this institution, Chancellor Jarema. As you can see, I am quite old. Yes, I have over one hundred years of life under my belt!" he chuckled to the shocked faces in the group.

"You say that I don't look my age? Thank you child, serving elements make people healthier. Well, if they do not get killed, at least. But I was going to welcome you all here, in the Academy of Elemental Magic. It is also called Temple of Elements. Yes, we consider ourselves priests of elements sometimes. Our study is full of awe and devotion, but I digress. During the next few weeks, you will learn as much about elements, as your tiny brains can manage. Unfortunately, most of our teaching stuff has left us due to the Great War against the Defilers, evil creatures that they are. Our Academy is the most important source of spellcasters and magic users ready to fight with forces of corruption and depravity. You will also fight in this war, and it would be sooner than I would prefer...

Anyway, four of promising young teachers decided to stay here, and teach you. Please, greet Mistress Frashene, the Pyromancer, Mistress Eada, the Aeromancer, Master Ghozough, the Geomancer, and, last but not least, Master Bildoboone, the Hydromancer. They are heads of their respective colleges of elemental magic. Sooner or later, each of you will specialize in one of the schools of elemental magic, and become personal student of one of this great teachers.

Now, let us greet four most promising students from previous year. I decided they should stay here, and help you understand complexities of magic. It is important task – as you know, mortality is high among pupils. And finally, there are you, our new blood. I am happy to see your young, open faces. But there is something that worries me. I suspect that agents of our Enemy are hiding among you. I was thinking for a long time about how I should approach this problem. And I made the decision, that I will use your collective wisdom. At the end of every week, we will gather here and discuss. Then, we will banish one person, the one you will found most suspicious, from the Academy.

But it should wait until you become acquainted with each other. Now, go to your cells. After three hours of meditation, we'll meet here again and dine.


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Standard game rules apply if I haven't mentioned it here.


Rules

Information regarding the Setup:
1. There would be at least two scum factions
2. Town would be divided into 4 factions – elemental colleges. Members of those colleges would be able to recruit promising students into their ranks
3. There would be 'vanilla' newbies among townies. They would be able to join elemental colleges. Majority of scum players would be hiding among them
4. Game will be divided into two phases: Voidday ("day”) when all students meet and discuss, and Week ("night”) when all students study and work

Victory conditions:
a) for scum factions – not publicly known
b) for unaligned townies – all threats to the Academy are eliminated, survived to end of the game; this VC changes after joining college
c) for members of one of colleges of elemental magic: all threats to the Academy are eliminated, opposite school of magic has been eradicated

Items:
a) there would be some items, but not many (rather several than dozens of them)
b) with exception of artifacts, after character's death his items are buried with him. We do not rob corpses.



Health/damage system:

1. Each character will have following characteristics: hit points (HP), corruption points (CP), fire attack and defense values, air attack and defense values, water attack and defense values, earth attack and defense values. There are also experience points, used to buy higher levels of those characteristics. (IMPORTANT)

2. Typical character starts with 10 HP (full health), some have as low as 8, some as much as 14. Each character not at full health regains one HP at end of day (before lynch)
3. Lynch deals damage to leading player/players, one point of damage per vote + one point per every week („day”) of the game (1 at day one, 2 at day 2, etc.); in case of tie all tied players would be damaged, but damage would be equal to one point per vote

4. During night phase, every character can attack other player using force of one of four elements
5. If attack value exceeds apropriate defense value, damage is done. 5. Damage is equal to attacker's AV – defenders DV + 1, and can be higher due to attacker's corruption. Some effects can influence damage. Damage is always equal to at least 1.
6. Three or more attackers from the same college can attack together for a devastating result.In case of coordinated attack, attack automatically hits, and damage is equal to the sum of attackers AV – respective DV. For example, if three attacker with fire AV 4 attacks defender with fire DV 3 separately, they will do 6 points of damage (or more, if one of them is highly corrupted), and against fire DV 4 they will do 0 damage. In case of coordinated attacks against DV 3 they will do 9 points of damage (3 points more, not counting corruption) and against DV 4 they will do 8 points of damage (8 more, regardless of corruption scores)
7. If attack misses due to DV of defender being higher than relevant AV of attacker, counter-attack will happen. Defender will attack attacker with the same element that attacker chosen for his assault.


Experience:
1. Every day, active player (the one who votes) get 2 XP
2. Every night, player who studies or who succesfully does something other than defending, get 1 XP
3. You can spend XP on AV and/or DV. For each AV or DV you pay as many XP as the new level of it would be. For example, if you want to raise your water DV from 1 to 2, it will cost you 2 XP. If you want to raise your fire AV from 2 to 5, it will cost you 12 XP
4. You can spend XP on corruption score, at the same rate as for AV and DV
5. You can spend XP on hit points. In order to raise your maximum HP (and your current HP) by 1, you must pay [your new maximum HP – 10]; for example, to raise your HP from 11 to 12 you must pay 2 XP, for raising from 10 to 15, you must pay 15 XP. If your maximum HP are lower than 10, then raising it by 1 costs 1 XP.
6. Described costs may differ due to some special abilities of some players

Corruption:
1. Player has a corruption score ranging from 0 to 10. It is "invisible” to other players, but under some circumstances general level of someone's corruption could be assessed
2. Levels of corruption: uncorrupted (0), mildly corrupted (1-2), moderately corrupted (3-4), severely corrupted (5 and more), utterly corrupted (special)

MY MISTAKE: corruption score of 1 was/is sometimes treated as uncorrupted. Sometimes it was assumed to be like: uncorrupted (0-1), mildly corrupted (2-3), moderately corrupted (4-5), severely corrupted (6 and more), utterly corrupted (special)

3. Corruption can be raised unvoluntarily, or as a consequence of some actions (like killing someone), or willingly, by expending XP – every player cand do it
4. Corruption is a mixed blessing. At one hand, the more corruption player has, the more damage he deals. Also, corruption protects against corruption-based attacks, so corrupted player will take less damage from scum attacks. At the other hand, the more corrupted player becomes, the more scummy he looks (because high corruption level is typical for scum). Also, at higher corruption levels, it can effect player in surprising (and not necesserily pleasant) way, when he becomes more and more deranged.
5. All scum players would be corrupted, more or less. But, they may have ways of hiding it.

Colleges of magic:
1. there are four colleges of magic: College of Flame (Pyromancers), College of Wind (Aeromancers), College of Wave (Hydromancers) and College of Stone (Geomancers)
2. their heads and higher rank members can recruit new players to the colleges (from ranks of 'new students'). If you are new student, and you are approached by such character, you will get option to join given college (no forced recruitation). That will change your victory condition, and give you access to further development
3. College will help you develop AV of its chosen element. Therefore, it could be beneficial to join college associated with element you are already strong in.
4. Heads of colleges are guaranteed innocents – at least at the begining of the game.

Night actions:
1. Each character can attack at night
2. Each character can study at night
3. Each character can defend at night (defending raises all DV by 1 for this night, but defending character does not gain XP)
4. Characters who have special abilities can use them
5. Characters who have special items can use them
6. As a free action, character can give his/her item to someone else. I must get message from this other player that he wants to take that item, then the transfer will happen at the end of night


Standard innocent role PM:


Young Pupil
Welcome in the Academy of Elemental Magic.
You are young student from one of the Empire core cities. You have not chosen path for your elemental training yet.
Alignment: town
Faction: unaligned
Elemental training: Fire: AV 2 DV 0; Earth: AV 0 DV 0; Water: AV 0 DV 1; Air: AV 1 DV 1.
Corruption Score: o
Hit Points: 10/10
Abilities:
1. beginners luck: first attack that would otherwise kill you, reduces your HP to 1 instead. If you join any college of magic, you will lose this ability. It is one-time only ability
2. you start game with 5 XP
Victory condition: All threats to the Academy are eliminated, you survive to the end of game

AV & DV would be different for different players, that is one of possible combinations.

IMPORTANT: "TECHNICAL" RULES
1. Private communication outside the game thread and gm-sanctioned qt is NOT allowed
2. You can still participate after death. Dead players can post both here and in their relevant qt's, but they must not reveal any information not posted in the game thread already. They may still scumhunt or try to befoul town
3. All forms of quoting pm's from host are forbidden. You should also not discuss technical details of them (like the time when you get your role pm, or its lenght)
4. There would be no WoGs for inactivity


Day One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-SIGN-UPS&p=2053495167&viewfull=1#post2053495167)
Night One (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053495699&viewfull=1#post2053495699)
Day Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053496038&viewfull=1#post2053496038)
Night Two (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053496544&viewfull=1#post2053496544)
Day Three (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053496951&viewfull=1#post2053496951)
Night Three (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053497320&viewfull=1#post2053497320)
Day Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053497907&viewfull=1#post2053497907)
Night Four (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053498471&viewfull=1#post2053498471)
Day Five (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053498905&viewfull=1#post2053498905)
Night Five (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053499518&viewfull=1#post2053499518)
Day Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053499840&viewfull=1#post2053499840)
Night Six (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053500165&viewfull=1#post2053500165)
Day Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053500819&viewfull=1#post2053500819)
Night Seven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053501097&viewfull=1#post2053501097)
Day Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053501358&viewfull=1#post2053501358)
Night Eight (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053501729&viewfull=1#post2053501729)
Day Nine (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053502089&viewfull=1#post2053502089)
Night Nine (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053502695&viewfull=1#post2053502695)
Day Ten (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053502955&viewfull=1#post2053502955)
Night Ten (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053503465&viewfull=1#post2053503465)
Day Eleven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053503666&viewfull=1#post2053503666)
Night Eleven (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053504113&viewfull=1#post2053504113)
Day Twelve (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053504453&viewfull=1#post2053504453)
Night Twelve (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053504645&viewfull=1#post2053504645)


Living Players:
1. Captain Blackadder
2. Askthepizzaguy
3. Memnon
4. Alsark
5. Ironside
6. Visorslash
7. Issaikhaan
8. White eyes:D
9. Robbiecon
10. Johnhughtom

Dead Players
Montmorency (aeromancers)
NinjaCow (pyromancers)
Andres (hydromancers)
Ignoramus(pyromancers)
Arjos (Defilers)
BSmith (Defilers)
El Barto (hydromancers)
Riedquat (Defilers)
LazyMcCrow(pyromancers)
TinCow (aeromancers)
Kennigit (Defilers)
Edse (hydromancers)
Elite Ferret (aeromancers)
Autolycus (geomancers)
Xenoneb (factionless)

Escaped
Chaotix, Demon Worshipper

Attacked Players:Alsark (n3, n8)
Andres (n3, n3, n3)
Askthepizzaguy (n2, n4, n8, n9)
Autolycus (n7 - group, n10)
Chaotix (n1, n4, n4, n4)
Edse (n1)
El Barto (n6, n6)
Elite Ferret (n9, n9)
Ignoramus (n3)
Ironside (n11)
Issaikhaan (n4, n5, n5, n5)
Johnhughtom (n3, n11)
Kennigit (n3, n4, n6, n6)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1, n3, n3, n7-group)
Montmorency (n1, n2, n2)
Riedquat (n4)
TinCow (n3, n4, n7 - group)
Visorslash (n2)
Xenoneb (n1, n2, n5, n9)


* I want to thank Visorslash for a great job of formatting this opening post for me. Now it surely looks better

Captain Blackadder
10-25-2012, 12:30
In please

Riedquat
10-25-2012, 14:10
Count me in!

autolycus
10-25-2012, 14:15
Sure I'll be in.

LazyMcCrow
10-25-2012, 16:33
Colour me intrigued.

Q: How will your corruption level raising 'make you seem more scummy'?

Jarema
10-25-2012, 16:37
A: you will have to learn it in game :)

Chaotix
10-25-2012, 17:29
Let's do it.

Question- is there any difference between the four elements, or are they all the same except for their names? Is fire more effective against a water mage than an earth mage, etc?

Jarema
10-25-2012, 17:35
There are some relations between opposite elements - like no one will start strong in both fire and water for example, but someone may start strong at both water and air. There are also differences in abilities of elemental masters - I tried to balance it yet make every element unique.
The rest is to be learned through studying elemental magic

Visor
10-25-2012, 17:44
This looks really cool. But I can't devote time to it, sorry. Maybe if I am killed off in a few more games. (THAT'S NOT A HINT!)

Jarema
10-25-2012, 17:44
Small warning: I still work on rules ant there may be small changes in the rules posted. Players should re-read them before game, to make sure they know newest version

Jarema
10-25-2012, 17:45
This looks really cool. But I can't devote time to it, sorry. Maybe if I am killed off in a few more games. (THAT'S NOT A HINT!)

maybe later :D
I do not think it will start in a few days

or... I suppose I will need a reserve

Montmorency
10-25-2012, 21:42
Yes.

Askthepizzaguy
10-25-2012, 22:18
Reporting for duty as a space-filler.

Memnon
10-25-2012, 22:51
In as well

Arjos
10-26-2012, 10:56
Abracadabra... In :P

Jarema
10-27-2012, 19:18
I will send some invites on Monday, at weekend I do not have any spare time.
But free to join now :)

edse
10-29-2012, 16:24
In.

BSmith
10-29-2012, 18:42
I'll play.

NinjaCow64
10-29-2012, 22:48
I'm in and I'll bring a box of Lucky Cows to share around as well.

They're magicly suspicious!

Jarema
10-30-2012, 13:16
I'm in and I'll bring a box of Lucky Cows to share around as well.

They're magicly suspicious!

But...
what is their predominant element?

EDIT: Now seriously: my internet connection was down for more than 12 hours and now I go to work. I will send some invites tommorow

Askthepizzaguy
10-30-2012, 13:46
But...
what is their predominant element?

Earth.

Not just dirt, mind you- their main ingredient is cow pies.

Alsark
10-30-2012, 16:23
Sounds complicated. Ergo, count me in!

Ironside
10-30-2012, 18:12
Shooy I'll try, in.

Visor
11-02-2012, 11:12
Cannon fodder at the ready sire!

(Standard inactivity warning, though activity should pick up in about two weeks hopefully).

seireikhaan
11-02-2012, 11:21
Sure, why not.

:charge:

Andres
11-02-2012, 12:30
In.

TinCow
11-02-2012, 13:01
In

:wizard:

Kennigit
11-02-2012, 15:08
oh yeah I meant to be in this please

White_eyes:D
11-02-2012, 23:23
IN:bow:

Ishmael
11-04-2012, 06:16
In as a reserve please. I don't have quite as much free time as normal at present, but I'll be cannon fodder if you can't get enough people.

Jarema
11-04-2012, 08:26
In as a reserve please. I don't have quite as much free time as normal at present, but I'll be cannon fodder if you can't get enough people.

thanks!

Xenoneb
11-04-2012, 21:56
In. Looks okay.

robbiecon
11-06-2012, 00:31
In, seems interesting.

Ignoramus
11-07-2012, 01:26
I probably don't have time for this, but I really should get back into the swing of Mafia games. Just don't be surprised if I don't post too often.

In.

Jarema
11-07-2012, 07:11
welcome

Jarema
11-07-2012, 08:32
I need at least one more player for this game to start, and two if I am not counting Ishmael

johnhughthom
11-07-2012, 18:01
Count me in.

Hope that post at TWC didn't offend you, Jarema. It was made with the best intentions.

El Barto
11-07-2012, 18:43
In.

Jarema
11-07-2012, 20:09
Count me in.

Hope that post at TWC didn't offend you, Jarema. It was made with the best intentions.

not at all. I even used option to add to your reputation, because: 1. advice was good; 2. you wrote it really gently
so, I am genuinely grateful for that

Jarema
11-07-2012, 20:12
Thank you all for signing for this game. Now, there is enough players.
Tommorow or day after tommorow I'll send role pms and start the game. sign-ups are still open, until this very moment. Every new player will be welcomed - the more the merrier.

LazyMcCrow
11-08-2012, 11:19
Glad you met the quota Jarema - I'm looking forward to this one :2thumbsup:

Jarema
11-08-2012, 13:39
eta: 32 hours from the time of this post
I still accept sign-ups

Ferret
11-08-2012, 14:20
Oh go on then, I'll be in this one as well :yes:

Jarema
11-09-2012, 09:31
great!
I updated opening post. Please re-read the rules, there are some new and some have been changed. If you have any questions, ask them now, or ... ... later

Signups are still accepted

Visor
11-09-2012, 09:55
Private communication outside the game thread and gm-sanctioned qt is NOT allowed

Going to be a bit hard for people to get in a group then...?

johnhughthom
11-09-2012, 10:46
You have to be part of a college to group, I imagine they'll have a qt.


Please re-read the rules

:whip:

Ferret
11-09-2012, 13:09
Yes but how can a college recruit one of the 'vanilla newbies' wthout advertising to everyone which college they are in? Also how can they give the recruit the quicktopic link without just posting it in the thread for all to see? Unless recrutment pms will be sent by Jarema?

johnhughthom
11-09-2012, 13:29
I'm pretty sure the college heads will be public and they'll probably do any recruiting in thread, with Jarema providing the qt link.

Jarema
11-09-2012, 13:54
Yes but how can a college recruit one of the 'vanilla newbies' wthout advertising to everyone which college they are in? Also how can they give the recruit the quicktopic link without just posting it in the thread for all to see? Unless recrutment pms will be sent by Jarema?
college heads would know everything they need to know about recrutation...
the rest of you will see in time how it looks like.

As for group actions: they are possible only for college members, and yes, each college has its own qt.

I finished role pms and the opening post. When I will be back home, I'll start sending role pms.
sign-ups still open! (to the very last moment)

Andres
11-09-2012, 14:16
Oh go on then, I'll be in this one as well :yes:

It's been ages...

Welcome back, Elite Ferret ~:wave:

Jarema
11-09-2012, 16:27
ok, I have some time now.
please do not post while role pms are being sent.
GAME WILL START SOON

Jarema
11-09-2012, 17:14
DAY 1

"Welcome once more. You have spend full month in the Academy, and today we start teaching. I hoped that this day, first Voidday of new academic year, would be a great celebration. But I have bad news for you. I have been poisoned by someone. I am dying... Please, dont be so affraid, your yells interfere withmy speech... thank you. I have not much time left. I must tell you something important. I am Master of the Void. Yes, it is not a legend, Kevomancers were among Academy mages from the very beginning of this institution. I am afraid that without our guidance Colleges will go into open fight. Please, don't do that. We must be strong and united. I hope there is another Master of the Void among you, but I am not sure. Kevomancers are secretive lot, and we do not reveal our identity even to each other.
Before I die, I have last gift for you. Please, take this Shield of True Purity and give it to one of you. It would greatly help any person not touched by corruption.
Now, as I told you last time I spoke to you, it is time you found defilers hiding among you. Do not exile them, just kill. It is war...
There is one more thing I have to say to you. Last but not least. I've got a message from my trusted informant. One of you... there is... one among my lot... ghhhrrhh... khh.."

Master Jarema passed away
Master Jarema was the Kevomancer. He was loyal servant of Academy

OOC: vote for lynch and for Shield of True Purity. Votes for Shield should be bolded and red. Most of you have some XP to spent. You can do it now, upgrades would take effect at the end of the day (after the lynch)

First Voidday begins!

LazyMcCrow
11-09-2012, 17:30
Vote for lynch: Captain Blackadder
Vote for Shield of True Purity: Lazy McCrow

Ferret
11-09-2012, 17:45
Vote: TinCow
because of my sig.

Vote for Shield of True Purity: Lazy McCrow
for being so quick.

Arjos
11-09-2012, 17:59
Vote: Elite Ferret, to honour forum veterans :D

Vote for the Shield of True Purity: Andres, to match the colours I guess lol

seireikhaan
11-09-2012, 18:27
Vote: NinjaCow

Because Ninja are bad people... cows... things.

Vote for Shield of True Purity: issaikhaan

I was once a pure king. I must reclaim it!

TinCow
11-09-2012, 18:49
Vote: Arjos
For voting for someone who's returned after a two year break.

Vote for Shield of True Purity: issaikhaan

Oh, my divine lord! How blessed we are to be graced with your presence! Join me, brothers, in promoting the righteous one to his proper position! Join me in blessed adoration!

johnhughthom
11-09-2012, 19:03
Silly old fool, why do these old geezers never write this stuff down before croaking in the middle of revealing some crucial and shocking secret.

Shield for khaan

Vote: Riedquat

Kennigit
11-09-2012, 20:31
why shield to myself of course (shield: Kennigit)

Andres
11-09-2012, 20:35
An old man steps forward, leaning heavily on a cane.

These are dark days. Which is why we should switch on the light, of course! I have the perfect spell for that. How was it called? Parking fine? No,no, that can't be it. Aha! I know! Dragon!

The old man starts waving his hands around and all of the sudden a gigantic monkey appears.

"You rang my lord?"

"Are you a dragon?"

"No, good sir, I'm a monkey."

The monkey took a close look at the old mage.

"Oh no, not that senile idiot again!"

Who are you calling senile here, dragon?

"I'm a monkey, old fool, not a dragon!"

"Monkey, dragon, whatever. We need light in these dark times."

"But sir, we're in broad daylight? What would you need a light..."

The old man started at the monkey.

"Anyway, in these dark times, we need firm leadership! It is therefore that I present myself as your new leader who will...

The old man suddenly fell asleep.

:Zzzz:

White_eyes:D
11-09-2012, 20:38
Vote:El Barto

I feel like the glorious Khaan should get the shield...Vote for Shield of True Purity:Khaan:bow:

Memnon
11-09-2012, 20:50
Obligatory random vote says Vote: Alsark! Also, Vote for Shield of True Purity: Lazy McCrow.

Riedquat
11-09-2012, 21:39
Vote: johnhughthom :bow:

Vote for Shield of True Purity: Issaikhaan

El Barto
11-09-2012, 21:45
Vote:El Barto

I feel like the glorious Khaan should get the shield...Vote for Shield of True Purity:Khaan:bow:
Oh you should die. lynch: White_eyes:D.
vote for Shield of True Purity: El Barto, that is, myself.

Jarema
11-09-2012, 23:20
host comment: there are lot of questions I get from you. I try to answer every one of them. If you feel you do not understand something, please ask me by pm

Visor
11-09-2012, 23:35
Vote: Khaan

Shield to myself

Ignoramus
11-09-2012, 23:49
Vote for shield of Purity: Ignoramus - only the ignorant should be entrusted with the shield.

Chaotix
11-10-2012, 00:30
Hmm...

Vote: johnhughthom

Shield: Chaotix

Andres
11-10-2012, 00:48
Vote : Chaotix

Shield : Andres

Ferret
11-10-2012, 01:27
FoS: Andres and TinCow for becoming admin whilst I was gone :clown: (yes I am still going to still use that smiley, sorry guys)

seireikhaan
11-10-2012, 03:29
Vote: Arjos
For voting for someone who's returned after a two year break.

Vote for Shield of True Purity: issaikhaan

Oh, my divine lord! How blessed we are to be graced with your presence! Join me, brothers, in promoting the righteous one to his proper position! Join me in blessed adoration!
Most excellent. I reward my blessed acolytes. Come, join me! Those who prove their worth in adoration shall see eternal glory!

Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2012, 03:38
Vote: johnhugethom

Vote: Red shield of awesomeness to myself

NinjaCow64
11-10-2012, 03:50
Vote: askthepizzaguy for the heinous crime of posting above me.

Sheild: LazyMcCrow because a Crow is almost a Cow.

Now let me get some sleep you Whippersnappers!

autolycus
11-10-2012, 04:06
Vote: Andres aesthetics are as good a reason as any.

Vote: Elite Ferret This is hardly the time for non-traditional smilies!

Kennigit
11-10-2012, 07:41
obligatory random vote. vote: LazyMcCrow as the random gods decided.

Jarema
11-10-2012, 10:18
due to lot of questions, day extended by 24 hours.
Remember, that if you start game with experience points, you can use them to buy attack, defense, hit points and/or corruption points

Ignoramus
11-10-2012, 10:43
Vote: NinjaCow64 for no particular reason.

Ironside
11-10-2012, 16:45
Thread needs more random elements.

Vote: Captain Blackadder

Vote for Shield of True Purity: Ironside

Montmorency
11-10-2012, 17:18
Very well.

Vote: Issaikhaan

Shield: Ironside

Jarema
11-10-2012, 17:21
Tally:
Johnhughtom (3): Riedquat, Chaotix, ATPG
Captain Blackadder (2): LazyMcCrow, Ironside
Elite Ferret (2): Arjos, Autolycus
NinjaCow (2): Issaikhaan, Ignoramus
Issaikhaan (2): Visorslash, Montmorency
TinCow: Elite Ferret
Arjos: TinCow
Riedquat: Johnhughtom
El Barto: White Eyes
Alsark: Memnon
White Eyes: El Barto
Chaotix: Andres
ATPG: NinjaCow
LazyMcCrow: Kennigit


Not voting:
Alsark, Bsmith, Edse, Captain Blackadder, Robbiecon, Xenoneb

Shield tally:
Issaikhaan (5): Issaikhaan, TinCow, Johnhughtom, White Eyes, Riedquat,
LazyMcCrow (4): LazyMcCrow, Elite Ferret, NinjaCow, Memnon
Andres (3): Arjos, Andres, Autolycus
Ironside (2): Ironside, Montmorency
Kennigit: Kennigit
El Barto: El Barto
Visorslash: Visorslash
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
Chaotix: Chaotix
ATPG: ATPG


Not voting:
Alsark, Bsmith, Captain Blackadder, Edse, Robbiecon, Xenoneb

No xp for:
Alsark, Bsmith, Captain Blackadder, Edse, Robbiecon, Xenoneb

can someone check it?

Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2012, 17:43
unvote, vote Captain Blackadder for not voting

I will graciously give johnny boy huge thumb a chance, though I fail to see how this will benefit me in the short or long term.

I'm making a mental note to regret this later.

johnhughthom
11-10-2012, 18:02
:on_lol:

Ferret
11-10-2012, 18:03
I think this is the correct tally:

Lynch Tally:
Captain Blackadder (3): LazyMcCrow, Ironside, ATPG
Johnhughthom (2): Riedquat, Chaotix
Issaikhaan (2): Visorslash, Montmorency
Elite Ferret (2): Arjos, Autolycus
NinjaCow (2): Issaikhaan, Ignoramus
TinCow: Elite Ferret
Arjos: TinCow
Riedquat: Johnhughthom
El Barto: White Eyes
Alsark: Memnon
White Eyes: El Barto
Chaotix: Andres
ATPG: NinjaCow
LazyMcCrow: Kennigit

Not voting:
Alsark, Bsmith, Edse, Captain Blackadder, Robbiecon, Xenoneb

Shield tally:
Issaikhaan (5): Issaikhaan, TinCow, Johnhughthom, White Eyes, Riedquat
LazyMcCrow (4): LazyMcCrow, Elite Ferret, Memnon, NinjaCow
Andres (3): Arjos, Andres, Autolycus
Ironside (2): Ironside, Montmorency
Kennigit: Kennigit
El Barto: El Barto
Visorslash: Visorslash
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
Chaotix: Chaotix
ATPG: ATPG

Not voting:
Alsark, Bsmith, Captain Blackadder, Edse, Robbiecon, Xenoneb

Jarema
11-10-2012, 18:53
thanks, it seems I made one mistake. Edited.

El Barto
11-10-2012, 21:34
White_Eyes:D has voted the shield to Issaikhaan. Therefore, to stick one up his… @#$%/( I shall unvote, vote:LazyMcCrow for the shield.

BSmith
11-10-2012, 22:06
vote: Memnon
Shield to me

robbiecon
11-10-2012, 22:35
Vote: Xenoneb

I'm happy with Vote: Issaikhaan having the shield.

El Barto
11-10-2012, 23:10
Shield to me
That's esentially a non-vote.

Vote: Xenoneb

I'm happy with Vote: Issaikhaan having the shield.
You are? this is a good lead for issaikhaan's lynch.

seireikhaan
11-10-2012, 23:43
That's esentially a non-vote.

You are? this is a good lead for issaikhaan's lynch.
Nice try, heretic, but that's a perfectly legitimate vote to give myself, your true lord, the shield. Now, cleanse thineself of sin and vote the shield to me.

El Barto
11-11-2012, 01:52
Lord? Only of Hell and Darkness. Follow the Light of Dawn, as you should, fell beast. Repent and convert!

Captain Blackadder
11-11-2012, 01:56
Vote:LazyMccrow

A little too eager to play the game I wonder why :inquisitive:

Shield of Awsomeness ATPG

White_eyes:D
11-11-2012, 04:50
Lord? Only of Hell and Darkness. Follow the Light of Dawn, as you should, fell beast. Repent and convert! I think your too vengeful to receive the true shield of awesomeness.:clown:

Jarema
11-11-2012, 15:03
Tally:

Captain Blackadder (3): LazyMcCrow, Ironside, ATPG
Johnhughtom (2): Riedquat, Chaotix
Elite Ferret (2): Arjos, Autolycus
NinjaCow (2): Issaikhaan, Ignoramus
LazyMcCrow (2): Kennigit, Captain Blackadder
TinCow: Elite Ferret
Arjos: TinCow
Riedquat: Johnhughtom
El Barto: White Eyes
Alsark: Memnon
White Eyes: El Barto
Ignoramus: Visorslash
Chaotix: Andres
ATPG: NinjaCow
Issaikhaan: Montmorency
Memnon: Bsmith
Xenoneb: Robbiecon

Not voting:
Alsark, Edse, Xenoneb

Shield tally:
Issaikhaan (6): Issaikhaan, TinCow, Johnhughtom, White Eyes, Memnon, Riedquat, Robbiecon
LazyMcCrow (3): LazyMcCrow, Elite Ferret, NinjaCow, El Barto
Andres (3): Arjos, Andres, Autolycus
Ironside (2): Ironside, Montmorency
ATPG (2): ATPG, Captain Blackadder
Kennigit: Kennigit
Visorslash: Visorslash
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
Chaotix: Chaotix
Bsmith: Bsmith

Not voting:
Alsark, Edse, Xenoneb

No xp for:
Alsark, Edse, Xenoneb

edse
11-11-2012, 20:58
Oh yeah, two minutes left!

Vote: Xenoneb

Shield for Issaikhaan

Jarema
11-11-2012, 21:17
Students and masters of elements were shocked. Jarema was such important figure to them. They could not decide whom they should lynch, accussations were random and mostly meaningless. After whole afternoon, they decided that Captain Blackadder should be killed.
Three of students, who voted for the Captain, pumelled him with rays of elemental magic. But it was not enough to take him down, and Captain Blackadder, wounded slighty, escaped to his cell.
During this Voidday, students also discussed to whom they should pass the shield left by Jarema. They decided, with vast majority of votes, that Issaikhaan will make the best use of it.
All other studenst walked to their cells. It was begining of very busy week.

OOC: Issaikhan gets the shield. Captain Blackadder took 4 points of damage.


Tally:
Captain Blackadder (3): LazyMcCrow, Ironside, ATPG
Johnhughtom (2): Riedquat, Chaotix
Elite Ferret (2): Arjos, Autolycus
NinjaCow (2): Issaikhaan, Ignoramus
LazyMcCrow (2): Kennigit, Captain Blackadder
Xenoneb (2): Robbiecon, Edse
TinCow: Elite Ferret
Arjos: TinCow
Riedquat: Johnhughtom
El Barto: White Eyes
Alsark: Memnon
White Eyes: El Barto
Ignoramus: Visorslash
Chaotix: Andres
ATPG: NinjaCow
Issaikhaan: Montmorency
Memnon: Bsmith

Not voting:
Alsark, Xenoneb

Shield tally:

Issaikhaan (7): Issaikhaan, TinCow, Johnhughtom, White Eyes, Memnon, Riedquat, Robbiecon, Edse
LazyMcCrow (3): LazyMcCrow, Elite Ferret, NinjaCow, El Barto
Andres (3): Arjos, Andres, Autolycus
Ironside (2): Ironside, Montmorency
ATPG (2): ATPG, Captain Blackadder
Kennigit: Kennigit
Visorslash: Visorslash
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
Chaotix: Chaotix
Bsmith: Bsmith

Not voting:
Alsark, Xenoneb


No xp for:
Alsark, Xenoneb
All other players get 2 XP


Remember that every living player should send me night order. Everyone can attack/defend/study, and some players have more options
First week begins! It would last longer because I want to give you more time at begining

ALL PLAYERS ALIVE

Alsark
11-13-2012, 03:15
Oops. Sorry, I sort of forgot I signed up for this, lol. I am here now.

My 100% accurate scumhunting prowess says that Andres is mafia, and likely one of Arjos or Autolycus, but not both, are mafia with him.

Alsark
11-13-2012, 16:28
Are we like... not supposed to talk at night? Or did everybody just vanish?

LazyMcCrow
11-13-2012, 16:35
Shhh. I'm trying to study.

Ferret
11-13-2012, 16:49
Trying to study how to attack students? Yeah... yeah, I thought so. Very suspicious. :clown:

johnhughthom
11-13-2012, 18:40
I'm studying the scumminess of questioning the motives of the person who posted before you.

Wait a minute. That means I'm scummy. Damn it, back to the books.

Jarema
11-13-2012, 21:20
DAY 2

A lot of things happened during last week. There are informations about several attacks.

Xenoneb looked at the depth of frozen sphere levitating in his cell. ‘This task is surely boring one’ he thought. ‘if only something interesting happened…’. As if summoned by his thoughts, someone knocked. Xenoneb hastily opened the door, and smiled to greet the visitor. But, instead a guest, roaring pillar of flame was waiting inside. When panicked man tried to escape back into the cell, part of the flame moved forward him, as if it had its own will. When Xenoneb slammed the door at the flames’ tentacle, it shrieked like a band of tormented souls, and exploded. Heavily wounded, Xenoneb nonetheless survived this encounter.

When Chaotix was going for a dinner, hooded figure bared his path. Then, with a gesture of hand, cloaked person pummeled Chaotix with rain of stones. But, quick at his feet, Chaotix managed to escape. Then, he paused for a moment, concentrated, and wrenched control over earth’ manifestation from the stranger. Stones rushed back towards attacker, but this time they missed once more, and the cloaked figure escaped.

Edse was kneeling. He tried to pray for the better lot, even though he didn’t believe it would help him in any way. He was totally astonished when strong water torrent stroke him in the back, pushing him toward the wall. Luckily, Edse managed to find small niche, in which he hid. Due to this, he was only scratched a bit.

LazyMcCrow was taking a rest. This day was really hard for person as lazy as him. He had to clean the whole Minor Hall! It took him over one hour! Surely, world was unjust to him. And it was just beginning of his bad luck… Part of the ceiling, pulled by mysterious force, fall right into his bed. Wounded clearly, albeit not very hard, LazyMcCrow crawled out from his bed, and leaved his cell in search of some help.
When he was in the middle of Minor Hall, he saw a man holding ball of fire in his hands. ‘Die!’ yelled mysterious figure, and hurled fireball at him. Luckily, Lazy managed to dodge it. But… with a manic grin, attacked waived his hands, and ball of fire, now looking as if charred and leaving trail of ash behind it, turned behind poor Lazy and hit him into his bottom. Almost dead, burned Lazy slided to the ground, senseless. Probably, attacker thought that he died from his wounds, and left the scene.

Montmorency was walking through the garden when he heard a movement behind his back. Alerted, he tried to jump out of the path, but before he managed to do that, beam of fire striked him. Before he turned, attacker escaped. Lightly burned, Montmorency returned to his quarters.

And there is also one good news
Checking our magazines resulted in founding two potions: muddy one and steamy one. Muddy potion radiates aura of water and earth, and steamy one of air and fire. Probably they are one-use defensive items.



Players alive: all

Dead players: none

Attacked players:
Xenoneb (n1)
Chaotix (n1)
Edse (n1)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1)
Montmorency (n1)


OOC: vote for lynch, and for items. Votes for Muddy Potion should be bolded and brown; voices for Steamy Potion should be bolded and blue. Most of you have some XP to spent. You can do it now, upgrades would take effect at the end of the day (after the lynch)
Second Voidday begins!

Jarema
11-13-2012, 22:00
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

I was sure that information about counter-attacks was in the rules, but it seems it was not. So here it is:

If attack misses due to DV of defender being higher than relevant AV of attacker, counter-attack will happen. Defender will attack attacker with the same element that attacker chosen for his assault.

Jarema
11-13-2012, 22:07
Another announcement: I will send you upgraded info on your HP, XP, corruption, AV's and DV's somewhen during day. Now I am going to sleep

LazyMcCrow
11-13-2012, 23:27
Bum. I was looking forward to becoming a Wizard (wizard!)
If anyone feels sympathetic, you can vote me for the potions - I'm going to need them :)

Visor
11-13-2012, 23:38
The attack on Xenoneb seems like the scum attack, whilst the others sound like regular attacks.

Anyway, Vote: Arjos

LazyMcCrow
11-13-2012, 23:49
'The' scum attack? Not sure about that being the only one - if indeed it was. I suffered 4 damage from the 'Earth' attack and 5 from the 'Fire' which both seem pretty overpowered for a student.

Visor
11-13-2012, 23:51
'The' scum attack? Not sure about that being the only one - if indeed it was. I suffered 4 damage from the 'Earth' attack and 5 from the 'Fire' which both seem pretty overpowered for a student.

Could be college heads/students? Or people who put their points in fire/earth, who already had a bonus.

Though with the damage values, you might be right.

edse
11-14-2012, 00:04
3 attacks with fire, 1 with water, 1 with earth and maybe the first on Lazy was air?

Vote: Memnon without any reason.

Chaotix
11-14-2012, 00:06
'The' scum attack? Not sure about that being the only one - if indeed it was. I suffered 4 damage from the 'Earth' attack and 5 from the 'Fire' which both seem pretty overpowered for a student.

4 + 5 + 4 from the lynch?

You've got a lot of HP there, Lazy.

You could be scum yourself. Or a college head. Though not the Earth or Fire head, by the looks of it.

Make a convincing case, and I might just vote you those potions. Could be important to keep you alive. Or lynch you again.

Vote: Blackadder

Montmorency
11-14-2012, 00:10
Vote: Visorslash

That's scum logic. It was clearly a Fire attack.

What's more interesting is that Chaotix has a relatively high Earth DV.

By the way, I suffered 2 damage from a Water attack. 2 Water and 2 Fire makes sense, while 3 Fire simply can not be at this early stage.

Crow's attacks: no element was attributed to the first. That's got to be the scum attack, right there.

Vote: Potion 1 to Crow

Visor
11-14-2012, 00:13
4 + 5 + 4 from the lynch?

You've got a lot of HP there, Lazy.

You could be scum yourself. Or a college head. Though not the Earth or Fire head, by the looks of it.

Make a convincing case, and I might just vote you those potions. Could be important to keep you alive. Or lynch you again.

Vote: Blackadder
He wasn't lynched.

Vote: Visorslash

That's scum logic. It was clearly a Fire attack.

What's more interesting is that Chaotix has a relatively high Earth DV.

By the way, I suffered 2 damage from a Water attack. 2 Water and 2 Fire makes sense, while 3 Fire simply can not be at this early stage.

Crow's attacks: no element was attributed to the first. That's got to be the scum attack, right there.

Vote: Potion 1 to Crow
Lazy himself said it was an earth attack.

Chaotix
11-14-2012, 00:15
Vote: Visorslash

That's scum logic. It was clearly a Fire attack.

What's more interesting is that Chaotix has a relatively high Earth DV.

By the way, I suffered 2 damage from a Water attack. 2 Water and 2 Fire makes sense, while 3 Fire simply can not be at this early stage.

Crow's attacks: no element was attributed to the first. That's got to be the scum attack, right there.

Vote: Potion 1 to Crow

Nah, Lazy just said the first attack was Earth (unless he is just guessing too? Anyway it was like stones falling from the ceiling). Could still be scum though.

I happen to have 2 Earth Defense. Whoever attacked me is probably innocent, what with a 1 in Earth Attack.

Chaotix
11-14-2012, 00:17
He wasn't lynched.


Gah you're right. Shows how much attention I'm paying.

Montmorency
11-14-2012, 00:18
Good. Then you understand.

Unvote

Visor
11-14-2012, 00:29
Most innocent vanillas would start with approximate values of 2/1/0 in AV/DV, no? With certain elements being stronger then others?

He probably hoped to get someone with a low DV, assuming he had a high enough DV himself to counter an innocent attack.

Chaotix and his attacker would therefore likely have the same stats, with a 1 in Earth AV and a 2 in Earth DV.

Chaotix
11-14-2012, 00:35
Most innocent vanillas would start with approximate values of 2/1/0 in AV/DV, no? With certain elements being stronger then others?

He probably hoped to get someone with a low DV, assuming he had a high enough DV himself to counter an innocent attack.

Chaotix and his attacker would therefore likely have the same stats, with a 1 in Earth AV and a 2 in Earth DV.

The real question is, if your Earth attack is that low, why bother attacking with it at all? It's not like you're going to deal significant damage with it, and in that case it's safer just to study to get the EXP.

Visor
11-14-2012, 00:38
The real question is, if your Earth attack is that low, why bother attacking with it at all? It's not like you're going to deal significant damage with it, and in that case it's safer just to study to get the EXP.

Some people will start with a bonus in some elements and a a negative for some other. (As per the OP role PM). Some people would have a stat of 0 for a DV. Maybe he hoped to do some damage. Alternatively he could've been scum (or town) establishing an alibi.

NinjaCow64
11-14-2012, 02:56
Has anyone got any XP results yet? Because I haven't.

Vote: Ironside for no particular reason, it's just a gut feeling. I'll replace that with a better case if anyone has one/presents itself in the thread.

NinjaCow64
11-14-2012, 02:59
Sorry for the double post, but I think that Lazy really needs those potions and it does look like he was attacked by scum. So let's give Both of the potions to LazyMcCrow. Plus cow almost equals crow, so he's a second cousin at least.

Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2012, 03:13
Gosh, super busy atm. Give me until tomorrow to come up with my response. Haven't even read anything since my last post.

Ignoramus
11-14-2012, 07:43
Vote: Visorslash

That's scum logic. It was clearly a Fire attack.

What's more interesting is that Chaotix has a relatively high Earth DV.

By the way, I suffered 2 damage from a Water attack. 2 Water and 2 Fire makes sense, while 3 Fire simply can not be at this early stage.

Crow's attacks: no element was attributed to the first. That's got to be the scum attack, right there.

Vote: Potion 1 to Crow

Are you saying you got hit by a water attack last night, Montmorency? From the write-up it sure looked like you were hit by fire.

I'm not fully convinced that Crow was attacked by the mafia last night. Jarema did mention that a couple of players did have initial XP points they could spend - it's not impossible for one of them to already have high fire AV and then upgrade it further during the first night. Also, I'm guessing the heads of the colleges must have pretty decent stats so it might well have been the head of the fire one.

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 09:59
ftr: Jarema lists the damage done to you and states its element, so I know it was earth and fire - glad to see someone else corrected your mistake Chaotix - I wasn't lynched, but I'm happy to vote for the guy who was lynched again
vote: Capt. Blackadder

Don't bother voting the potions to me - I'm no power role and I only have 1 HP which no amount of potions will help.

Anyway - What were you doing with your shiny new shield this week Khaan?

vote muddy potion: Visorslash
vote steamy potion: Visorslash

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 10:00
Sorry for double post - forgot to bold up mah poh shuns:

ftr: Jarema lists the damage done to you and states its element, so I know it was earth and fire - glad to see someone else corrected your mistake Chaotix - I wasn't lynched, but I'm happy to vote for the guy who was lynched again
vote: Capt. Blackadder

Don't bother voting the potions to me - I'm no power role and I only have 1 HP which no amount of potions will help.

Anyway - What were you doing with your shiny new shield this week Khaan?

vote muddy potion: Visorslash
vote steamy potion: Visorslash

Jarema
11-14-2012, 10:14
My descrtiptions sucks at times... the attack with the ceiling was supposed to be an earth attack(ceiling = stone...); I want all attacks to have obvious elemental ties in descriptions

Ironside
11-14-2012, 10:31
Are you saying you got hit by a water attack last night, Montmorency? From the write-up it sure looked like you were hit by fire.

I'm not fully convinced that Crow was attacked by the mafia last night. Jarema did mention that a couple of players did have initial XP points they could spend - it's not impossible for one of them to already have high fire AV and then upgrade it further during the first night. Also, I'm guessing the heads of the colleges must have pretty decent stats so it might well have been the head of the fire one.

I'm guessing that the head might be able to do such damage, but a student? The attacker at least 5 and 6 in attack (damage= attack-def-1). 4 I can see if I squint hard enough, but 5 and 6 is impossible this early, unless you have something like 3 in starting attack and 10-15 starting exp. Add coordination between two elements.

Besides, if I'm reading correctly, Lazy dodged the fire base of the attack (lucky dodge, corrupt fire version turns around and attacks). That's one big tell sign.
Better check. Jarema, does corruption work as an attack value or is it only extra damage?

Jarema
11-14-2012, 10:44
I see that it is ambigious, so I will write it with brackets:
damage = (attack - defense) +1; is always at least 1 if attack hit; can be higher due to corruption; some other factors can influence damage

Jarema
11-14-2012, 10:52
MY MISTAKE: I wrote to Montmorency that he was attacked with water.
Montmorency was attacked with fire.

Ignoramus
11-14-2012, 12:02
Vote Water Potion: Andres
Vote Muddy Potion: Ignoramus.

Too early to identify any suspicious signs, but I need to vote for someone.

Vote: Arjos

Ferret
11-14-2012, 13:57
Surely the attacks on LazyMcCrow were mafia? I can't believe that two of the college heads would happen to attack the same person on night one and I can't think of anyone else who would be able to do that much damage, unless I am just massively weaker than everyone else.

Vote:Ignoramus for trying to deflect attention away from the Crow attacks.

As for the potions I agree with LazyMcCrow, it hardly seems worth giving them to him if he only has 1HP left, he may well still die even if he used both of them tonight. Not really sure who to give them to though...

Vote muddy potion: Montmorency
Vote steamy potion: Montmorency

I guess if he has been attacked it makes him a tiny bit less likely to be scum.

Arjos
11-14-2012, 14:32
Vote: White Eyes, don't know any better here, D1 one voters could be those trying to avoid attention...

Vote for Muddy Potion: Lazy McCrow, trying to help him out, although his could be a clever mafia ploy to clear him, but I'm most likely being paranoid...

Vote for Steamy Potion: Chaotix, what I understood from the write-up and posts, he should be pretty powerful in defense...

TinCow
11-14-2012, 14:49
It looks to me like Lazy only survived due to the beginner's luck ability. If I were in his situation, I'd like some potions, so I shall follow the golden rule.

Vote Water Potion: Lazy McCrow
Vote Muddy Potion: Lazy McCrow

Because random.org told me to...
Vote: Xenoneb

Riedquat
11-14-2012, 14:55
Besides, if I'm reading correctly, Lazy dodged the fire base of the attack (lucky dodge, corrupt fire version turns around and attacks). That's one big tell sign.

:dizzy2: Sorry I'm a bit to much confused than usual, do you mean Lazy or Chaotix? Corrupt fire version?

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 14:57
I didn't dodge anything - I got hit by an earth attack and a fire attack

Riedquat
11-14-2012, 15:47
I didn't dodge anything - I got hit by an earth attack and a fire attack

That is what I understood... Thats why I'm asking, and what he mean by the lucky dodge and the corrupt fire thing.

Anyway you are the only one with an urgent need of the items so,
Vote Water Potion: Lazy McCrow; vote Muddy Potion: Lazy McCrow

Vote: autolycus

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 16:06
I appreciate it R - but as i said in a previous post - I only have 1 HP left, so giving me the potions would be a waste. Visorslash seems in his usual supertownie mode, so thats who I voted for the potions

TinCow
11-14-2012, 16:09
I appreciate it R - but as i said in a previous post - I only have 1 HP left, so giving me the potions would be a waste. Visorslash seems in his usual supertownie mode, so thats who I voted for the potions

Why would defensive potions be wasted on you? If anyone would need extra defense to survive, surely it would be you.

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 16:39
Fair enough - I'd certainly be grateful for them, but as I am so close to death it would seem a waste. They are Air(Water?) and Earth defence - I get hit by fire or water(air?) and its sayonara anyway my sweet bovine. Better off claiming them yourself non?

Visor
11-14-2012, 16:51
Fair enough - I'd certainly be grateful for them, but as I am so close to death it would seem a waste. They are Air(Water?) and Earth defence - I get hit by fire or water(air?) and its sayonara anyway my sweet bovine. Better off claiming them yourself non?

Well, if the potions are passive then we might as well give them both to you. If they aren't then there are better options.

If the potions are passive, you are invincible for a night.

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 16:54
Well, if the potions are passive then we might as well give them both to you. If they aren't then there are better options.

If the potions are passive, you are invincible for a night.

...but only from 2 out of 4 kinds of attack I'd assume :/

TinCow
11-14-2012, 16:59
Fair enough - I'd certainly be grateful for them, but as I am so close to death it would seem a waste. They are Air(Water?) and Earth defence - I get hit by fire or water(air?) and its sayonara anyway my sweet bovine. Better off claiming them yourself non?

I'd happily claim them myself if I could convince people to give them to me, but that seems unlikely so I'm not going to bother trying. In any case, I question the utility of the potions for the reason you point out... we know who's going to get them and the scum will know what attacks not to use on those people. For this reason they're not going to be game-changers so I don't think it's much of a big deal who gets them.

Besides, if you really don't want them you can simply give them away at night to the person of your choice instead of using them. That might actually make them more useful since then there would be no public knowledge about who got the defensive bonuses.

LazyMcCrow
11-14-2012, 17:19
Agreed! - unvote: unvote: vote: Lazy McCrow vote: Lazy McCrow

Ironside
11-14-2012, 19:37
:dizzy2: Sorry I'm a bit to much confused than usual, do you mean Lazy or Chaotix? Corrupt fire version?

Lazy. He dodges the inital fireboll indicating some defense (could be artistic writeup though), the fireboll then return in some nasty (corrupt) version that hits him.

If I'm getting Jarema correctly, then there was less devastating attacks than I previously thought. Min 3 and 4 in attack. And less corruption damage than expected (2-3 damage at maximum). It's possible that they start out with non-maxed corruption then.

Lazy, is it too much to ask what your defenses were at the attack? I'm number crunching.
Vote Water Potion: Lazy McCrow
Vote Muddy Potion: Lazy McCrow

Random elements says
Vote: Memnon

Montmorency
11-14-2012, 19:47
I'm willing to vote unproductively if I'm paid no heed while I accumulate experience. (For that matter, what about those supplementary PMs, Jarry?)

Vote: Alsark

seireikhaan
11-14-2012, 20:09
Faithful acolytes deserve their just rewards. I have confidence he will use them well.

Vote Water Potion: TinCow
Vote Muddy Potion: TinCow



Vote: Ignoramus

For ticking my "heathen" radar.

Jarema
11-14-2012, 21:40
I'm willing to vote unproductively if I'm paid no heed while I accumulate experience. (For that matter, what about those supplementary PMs, Jarry?)

Vote: Alsark

they would be here during this day of game, but not during this real day (hard day at my work, now I am going to bath and then sleep hopefuly)

Andres
11-14-2012, 22:01
Vote muddy potion: LazyMcCrow
Vote steamy potion: LazyMcCrow


​vote : Arjos.

NinjaCow64
11-14-2012, 22:05
Vote muddy potion: LazyMcCrow
Vote steamy potion: LazyMcCrow


​vote : Arjos.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeein!

Don't do that!

Unvote; Vote: Andre for making a vote post without any reasoning.

Jarema
11-14-2012, 22:24
Mid-day update


Tally:
Arjos (3): Visorslash, Ignoramus, Andres
Memnon (2): Edse, Ironside
Captain Blackadder (2): Chaotix, LazyMcCrow
Ignoramus (2): Elite Ferret, Issaikhaan
White Eyes: Arjos
Xenoneb: TinCow
Autolycus: Riedquat
Alsark: Montmorency
Andres: NinjaCow


Muddy potion:
LazyMcCrow (8): Montmorency, NinjaCow, Arjos, TinCow, Riedquat, LazyMcCrow, Ironside, Andres
Ignoramus: Ignoramus
Montmorency: Elite Ferret
TinCow: Issaikhaan

Steamy potion:
LazyMcCrow (7): NinjaCow, TinCow, Riedquat, LazyMcCrow, Ironside, Andres
Andres: Ignoramus
Montmorency: Elite Ferret
Chaotix: Arjos
TinCow: Issaikhaan

I hope it is correct...

Memnon
11-14-2012, 22:39
Pretty much in agreement when it comes to the potions, so Vote: Steamy potion: LazyMcCrow, Vote: Muddy potion: LazyMcCrow. Hmm, why the tally on Arjos? Vote: Visorslash.

Kennigit
11-14-2012, 22:52
Vote Water Potionon: Lazy McCrow
Vote Muddy Potion: Lazy McCrow

Because random.org told me to...
Vote: Xenoneb


I'd happily claim them myself if I could convince people to give them to me, but that seems unlikely so I'm not going to bother trying. In any case, I question the utility of the potions for the reason you point out... we know who's going to get them and the scum will know what attacks not to use on those people. For this reason they're not going to be game-changers so I don't think it's much of a big deal who gets them.


Version 1: Yes yes, please sir, take these potions (which by the way, we totally shouldn't even think much about anyways 'cuz the scum will know it too, they aren't important guiz), and please sir, bear in mind that I would ever so bravely take this burden myself but I'm afraid that I wouldn't get much support. Now dear, who shall I put my own suspicion on? Why, let's choose a chap at random shall we, great effectiveness! holly ho!

version 2: 1 HP you say? well drat, take these potions, drink them, and I shall kill you anyways. Bear in mind I would bravely take this burden of potion-owning upon myself but I'm afraid to ask my scum buddies to publically vote them to me. Oh what is this in the rules I see? "b) with exception of artifacts, after character's death his items are buried with him. We do not rob corpses." Objects get buried with their possessor? Why what a convenient rule for me, Mr Scum tincow, in case he doesn't trade it away as a free action! Ho ho ho!

vote: Tincow

johnhughthom
11-14-2012, 22:54
Vote: NinjaCow

Andres isn't a difficult name to spell. Placeholder vote for xp until I get some time to read thread.

Gimme the thingies.

White_eyes:D
11-15-2012, 00:12
Vote:Captain Blackadder I have somewhat of a "scummy" feeling coming from him.:shrug:

The Potions are kinda worthless because their effects were made public...should have had them be randomly given away in private.:book:

Give potions to LazyMcCrow

Gorgias || Seleucid General ||
11-15-2012, 01:15
hello what is this?i dont understand how u play this game?is it rtw mod?

robbiecon
11-15-2012, 01:36
Vote: Both Potions to LazyMcCrow

Vote: Visorslash, something doesn't quite sit right with me in relation to his post about the attack on Xenoneb seeming like a scum attack, and the rest being "regular" attacks. Especially with LazyMcCrow's follow up post about how much damage he took last night.

Jarema
11-15-2012, 08:35
hello what is this?i dont understand how u play this game?is it rtw mod?
it is forum game of mafia.
What is mafia?
http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

LazyMcCrow
11-15-2012, 10:50
Jarema - assuming I get the potions, when can I palm them off to someone else? Do I have the 'Dump off' skill? I'm reasonably sure I got into the academy on a sports scholarship

autolycus
11-15-2012, 14:27
Vote Water Potion: Andres
Vote Muddy Potion: Ignoramus.
vote:kennigit Your post voting tincow is far too entertaining to be the work of town :p

LazyMcCrow
11-15-2012, 15:56
unvote: vote: kennigit

Ferret
11-15-2012, 18:26
unvote, vote: Arjos

I feel like we should get a bandwagon going (yes I am aware of how scummy this phrase will sound but bear with me), considering the lynch is traditionally the town's best weapon and that if we carry on the way we are we'll end up just weakening everyone and never actually lynching someone. This will make it much easier for the mafia to just finish all the weakened townies off.

But I've still got my eye on you Ignoramus...

Jarema
11-15-2012, 18:57
Jarema - assuming I get the potions, when can I palm them off to someone else? Do I have the 'Dump off' skill? I'm reasonably sure I got into the academy on a sports scholarship

I do not understand this sentence :)

Citation from the rules:
As a free action, character can give his/her item to someone else. I must get message from this other player that he wants to take that item, then the transfer will happen at the end of night

White_eyes:D
11-15-2012, 20:05
Jarema - assuming I get the potions, when can I palm them off to someone else? Do I have the 'Dump off' skill? I'm reasonably sure I got into the academy on a sports scholarship
I think you should keep them....if I were you, I would raise my hp and use the potions. I mean you have quite a discount now.:book:

Jarema
11-15-2012, 20:17
cost of raising HP depends on your maximum HP not your current HP

Arjos
11-15-2012, 20:33
we'll end up just weakening everyone and never actually lynching someone.

By that logic, we should lynch Cpt. B, as it is this phase will only produce, what you want to avoid XD

Ferret
11-15-2012, 20:40
Ah yes, I had forgotten he 'won' the day one vote.

unvote, vote: Captain Blackadder

Apologies for the frequent vote changing, hope it isn't too hard to keep track of...

Jarema
11-15-2012, 21:28
This day, members of Academy were even more undecided that week ago. Finally, two leading candidates were put before students, and accussers blasted them with their power. But it was not enogh to kill them. Both of them, Arjos and Captain Blackadder, took 3 points of damage.
Both potions were voted to LazyMcCrow, terribly burned and beaten.

Tally:
Arjos (3): Visorslash, Ignoramus, Andres
Captain Blackadder (3): Chaotix, White Eyes, Elite Ferret
Memnon (2): Edse, Ironside
TinCow (2): Kennigit, Robbiecon
Kennigit (2): Autolycus, LazyMcCrow
Ignoramus: Issaikhaan
White Eyes: Arjos
Xenoneb: TinCow
Autolycus: Riedquat
Alsark: Montmorency
Andres: NinjaCow
Visorslash: Memnon
NinjaCow: Jonhughtom



Muddy potion:
LazyMcCrow (8): Montmorency, NinjaCow, Arjos, TinCow, Riedquat, LazyMcCrow, Ironside, Andres, Memnon, White Eyes, Robbiecon
Ignoramus: Ignoramus, Autolycus
Montmorency: Elite Ferret
TinCow: Issaikhaan
Jonhughtom: Jonhughtom

Steamy potion:
LazyMcCrow (7): NinjaCow, TinCow, Riedquat, LazyMcCrow, Ironside, Andres, Memnon, White Eyes, Robbiecon
Andres: Ignoramus, Autolycus
Montmorency: Elite Ferret
Chaotix: Arjos
TinCow: Issaikhaan
Jonhughtom: Jonhughtom

No XP:
Alsark, Askthepizzaguy, BSmith, Captain Blackadder, El Barto, Xenoneb

Remember that every living player should send me night order. Everyone can attack/defend/study, and some players have more options
Second week begins! It would last longer because I want to give you more time at begining

ALL PLAYERS ALIVE

Jarema
11-15-2012, 21:42
please someone check the tally, esp. votes for leading candidates. I would be busy sending required pm's.

Captain Blackadder
11-16-2012, 05:10
It is simple the amount of damage is equal to how many people voted so in order to lynch you need bandwagons.

Askthepizzaguy
11-16-2012, 10:50
I am posting to indicate how far I've read up to.

So.... what up, fellow students. I've been sitting at the back of the class blowing spitwads at people and I've misplaced my wand.

Andres
11-16-2012, 12:40
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeein!

Don't do that!

Unvote; Vote: Andre for making a vote post without any reasoning.

I couldn't resist. The monkey forced me :bigcry:

Askthepizzaguy
11-16-2012, 17:12
I did not!

Jarema
11-16-2012, 17:52
due to personal reasons night extended by 24 hours.
(I do not have time today to cope with night action results, it is more work than I expected)

El Barto
11-17-2012, 06:06
WhIFOM.

Jarema
11-17-2012, 20:44
Second week was not more peaceful than first one.

Captain Blackadder was resting. He was wounded, so it seemed like natural thing to do. What he did not expect, was that someone will try to finish him. Attack began with a strange voice. As if human souls were trapped in the wind. When Captain tried to peep through the keyhole, his eye was striked by an air. Air as hard as if it was steel. Captain Blackadder swayed. His eye was completely destroyed, and he was almost killed.

When Visorslash was putting clean sheets on the bed, he was attacked from behind. He almost managed to escape, but the flame licked his back a bit, leaving a small blister (and burned his bedclothes)

Askthepizzaguy was terrified. So terrified, that he locked himself in his cell, hoping it will protect him. It seems, that his fear was not without merit, as someone tried to attack him. Stream of water hit ATPG's doors, but did not manage to get inside. At first, at least. But, a mumbling voice was heard, and stream of water, now foul and dirty, hit the door again. This time, water managed to get through, albeit not with it full strength. ATPG was wounded, before he closed his doors once more.

Xenoneb was sleeping. It was the thing he was best at. To be honest, he never managed to leave his cell for any other reason then to feed. And now, he was not hungry. It seemed that nothing can move him from his quarter. But... when a column of roaring flame rushed inside, he achieved speed he did not thought he was capable of. Heavily wounded, he managed to get some help and dress his wounds.

Montmorency was searching for a students interesting in air magic. When he saw lone man in the dining hall, he went toward him, hoping for a pleasant chat. He was really surprised, when stranger raised his hands and shouted. So surprised, that he did not evade earth stalagmite, looking very dirty and corroded, that reupted from the floor. Wounded moderately hard by the attack, Montmorency managed to flee to the corridor.
But, right there, another attacker was waiting. He smited poor Montmorency with a blast of toxic air. The last thought of poor Monty was: 'My beloved air is spoiled, I must follow it and help it recuperate'.
Montmorency was killed!
He was innocent. He was Wielder of wind , member of Aeromancers faction

Yaro, the head of college' archivists, conducted quick funeral rite. Then, he shouted those cryptic words: 'First one gone. Beware! There are first deads, and it is even not the Night of Long Knives! This class is doomed! We are all doomed! Doooomed!' But everybody knows, that Yaro is very old and not in his best mental condition.
No item was found this week, maybe because archivists had other things to do.

OOC: I think I can announce end of initial phase of the game: there is first dead player, and most players are members of one of the Colleges. Serious gaming begins!
INFO: I decided I will not inform you that someone tried to invite you if you are already member of another college (and thus cannot be recruited anyway). It is not so important information, and it will save me a lot of work.

Voidday 3 begins!
Killed:
Montmorency (aeromancers)

Attacked:
Askthepizzaguy (n2)
Chaotix (n1)
Edse (n1)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1)
Montmorency (n1, n2, n2)
Visorslash (n2)
Xenoneb (n1, n2)

johnhughthom
11-17-2012, 20:53
Thanks, Yoda. :clown:

Jarema
11-17-2012, 22:09
Everything done, you can play :)

Askthepizzaguy
11-17-2012, 22:20
Vote: Andres

I got attacked by a thing. I'm blaming you, so die.

TinCow
11-17-2012, 22:34
Xeno, might want to invest in some Fire DV. Mr Column of Flame seems to be obsessed with you. Also, between N1 and N2, poor Monty got slapped around by Earth, Wind, and Fire. Perhaps he would have survived longer had he been a bit funkier.

Alsark
11-17-2012, 23:21
I am so far behind... but I am still totally calling an Andres+Autolycus scum team.

Vote: Andres

NinjaCow64
11-18-2012, 00:09
Andres does indeed look scummy.

Vote: Andres

Askthepizzaguy
11-18-2012, 00:18
Wait, what?

That was random and spiteful. Are you saying it's also correct for some reason?

I'm totally for killing Andres, but I always prefer to know why people are voting the way they do. Especially if I'm correct, so I can do my funky pizza dance.

edse
11-18-2012, 00:20
Andres does indeed look scummy.

Vote: Andres

Vote: NinjaCow64 don't vote for people without reason

Alsark
11-18-2012, 00:40
My reason stems from Day 1. He makes a post that is WAY too "into the game", which I often believe to be mafia-like... and then he just like, totally disappears for a very long time - lurking is also mafia-like. That's double mafia likeness. Then you have Autolycus constantly giving Andres items, like the shield and water potion, when there is really very, very little reason to be doing so.

Hence, Autolycus+Andres scum team.

El Barto
11-18-2012, 02:19
Wait, what?

That was random and spiteful. Are you saying it's also correct for some reason?

I'm totally for killing Andres, but I always prefer to know why people are voting the way they do. Especially if I'm correct, so I can do my funky pizza dance.
Well, you doing a funky pizza dance is a good reason.

TinCow
11-18-2012, 03:15
My reason stems from Day 1. He makes a post that is WAY too "into the game", which I often believe to be mafia-like... and then he just like, totally disappears for a very long time - lurking is also mafia-like. That's double mafia likeness. Then you have Autolycus constantly giving Andres items, like the shield and water potion, when there is really very, very little reason to be doing so.

Hence, Autolycus+Andres scum team.

Why is wanting to give someone items scummy?

Askthepizzaguy
11-18-2012, 03:21
I can sort of sympathize with that statement. It never occurred to me to give any items to anyone so far.

El Barto
11-18-2012, 03:36
Would people wanting to give you items be scumym as well?

Alsark
11-18-2012, 03:57
Why is wanting to give someone items scummy?

Shouldn't you be giving the towniest people items that benefit people? So why would Autolycus constantly be giving Andres items? Doesn't make any sense to me, yo, unless they're scum together and he wants to help out his teammate.


Would people wanting to give you items be scumym as well?

People should be giving items to the towniest player - which I'm clearly not since I have barely been around.

Askthepizzaguy
11-18-2012, 04:09
Would people wanting to give you items be scumym as well?

It would be odd since I haven't been participating that much.

TinCow
11-18-2012, 04:27
Shouldn't you be giving the towniest people items that benefit people? So why would Autolycus constantly be giving Andres items? Doesn't make any sense to me, yo, unless they're scum together and he wants to help out his teammate.

To a certain extent, yes. However you are claiming that Autolycus is scummy because he wanted to give stuff to Andres. That would only work if Andres was so inherently scummy that no one in their right mind would have thought him a townie. Yet the only post of any significance that Andres made prior to Autolycus' first 'gift' post was this one (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053495231&viewfull=1#post2053495231) in which Andres did a bit of RPing. You are fully entitled to say that RPing like that is scummy, but I would not say it is so inherently scummy that everyone else would immediately see it as such. I certainly didn't see it as a post indicating that Andres was scum, so why would we assume that Autoloycus would have? Thus, there's no particular reason to assume that Autolycus is scummy based on his gifting to Andres. In fact, if what you claim were true, why would Autolycus have split his vote on the potions and offered one to someone else?

Isn't it a bit early in the game to be launching a vendetta against a person? Why are you so aggressive in your pursuit of the A-Team?

NinjaCow64
11-18-2012, 05:23
A friend suggested that they were scummy. And I trusted that friend's judgement. Since I wasn't really in the mood for making a case, that's who I voted for.

Alsark
11-18-2012, 05:25
To a certain extent, yes. However you are claiming that Autolycus is scummy because he wanted to give stuff to Andres. That would only work if Andres was so inherently scummy that no one in their right mind would have thought him a townie. Yet the only post of any significance that Andres made prior to Autolycus' first 'gift' post was this one (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142716-Academy-of-Elemental-Magic-IN-PLAY&p=2053495231&viewfull=1#post2053495231) in which Andres did a bit of RPing. You are fully entitled to say that RPing like that is scummy, but I would not say it is so inherently scummy that everyone else would immediately see it as such. I certainly didn't see it as a post indicating that Andres was scum, so why would we assume that Autoloycus would have? Thus, there's no particular reason to assume that Autolycus is scummy based on his gifting to Andres. In fact, if what you claim were true, why would Autolycus have split his vote on the potions and offered one to someone else?

I could understand giving him the shield on Day 1, sure - that was mostly just a random giveaway. However, when he just so happens to also give him an item on Day 2, that goes beyond coincidence - especially when Andres isn't at all towny (even if you don't find him scummy, he is neutral at best). And if he gave both potions to Andres that would just be way, way too obvious. Splitting it up makes it more subtle. Also, if they're really elemental defense potions, as I think someone had posted, then maybe Andres needed the water potion more than the muddy potion. Maybe he already has a high Earth defense, which, if they're scum together, Autolycus would know exactly what potion to give his scum buddy.


Isn't it a bit early in the game to be launching a vendetta against a person? Why are you so aggressive in your pursuit of the A-Team?

Lol, you make it sound like I hate the guy(s) - I don't even know anybody here, really, besides Visorslash. I'm just offering my opinion and going through with it.

Alsark
11-18-2012, 05:28
A friend suggested that they were scummy. And I trusted that friend's judgement. Since I wasn't really in the mood for making a case, that's who I voted for.

... You're making me doubt the placement of my vote right now, to be honest. Who is "a friend"? And why is this person not voting for Andres himself? And in your post you say "they" are scummy. Who is they?

seireikhaan
11-18-2012, 06:06
Vote: Alsark

Ring-a-ding-ding. Scum bells all over the place. You were so sure on this little crusade. Well, until anyone raised an eyebrow at it.

Alsark
11-18-2012, 06:15
Vote: Alsark

Ring-a-ding-ding. Scum bells all over the place. You were so sure on this little crusade. Well, until anyone raised an eyebrow at it.

Okay, well then you tell me - why do you think that Andres is town?

And what are you even talking about? The only hesitation that came up was how scummy Ninjacow's post was (who also happens to be voting for Andres) - not because anybody questioned my vote.

seireikhaan
11-18-2012, 07:40
Andres is being andres. You're looking *really* hard at things that aren't actually there or what you think they are. Most valid point thus far is the suspicion of NinjaCow, but you come first.

Chaotix
11-18-2012, 08:08
Khaan on the attack?

Something's wrong here.

Vote: issaikhaan

seireikhaan
11-18-2012, 08:33
Oh hush, you. I'm allowed to be a good townie. Occasionally.

Ferret
11-18-2012, 15:29
People should be giving items to the towniest player - which I'm clearly not since I have barely been around.

Not the towniest player.... because YOU'RE MAFIA!?!? :clown:

Seriously though I'm not sure what to make of all this, but I don't buy your reasons for calling Andres scummy.

I still have suspicions about Ignoramus, but I'll wait and see what he says this round first. For now:

vote:Alsark

Alsark
11-18-2012, 15:54
Seriously? So I'm scum because you guys disagree with me? Lol.

Bravo, guys. That's some expert scumhunting right there.


Andres is being andres. You're looking *really* hard at things that aren't actually there or what you think they are. Most valid point thus far is the suspicion of NinjaCow, but you come first.

Also, I love how you think I am scum because "Andres is being Andres" and that evidently I should know that. Because I guess making a giant RP post and then disappearing and then someone else giving you free handouts must be perfectly normal for him? I dunno - but if you insist. For the normal person, though, that is scummy behavior, and indicates that the other person is probably scum with him.

So this is kind of ironic... you vote me for "having a vendetta against the A-team," and yet you seem to have the mindset of defending the "A-team" for no reason and having a vendetta against someone you don't know. If making a giant RP post and then disappearing qualifies you as being A-team material around here, and then everyone votes you just for voting one of the A-team members... I have to say, I'm quite concerned. I love how my vote is one of the first with ACTUAL REASONING, and nobody questions these random votes that have been going around all game long. Seriously people - think things through and make ACTUAL CASES. Don't just jump on the first person who uses some actual logic. "Oh noes... a vote that isn't random? Guy is thinking too hard. Let's kill that guy." You guys are pro.

Alsark
11-18-2012, 16:23
When I get back from church I'd like to conduct a meta-analysis on Andres to challenge issaikhaan's claim that Andres is always like this. If Andres is indeed always like this, then fine - that's cool. But if I find out you are lying, issaikhaan, then you have some 'splanin' to do, Lucy!

If somebody could insist on this endeavor and link me to at least a couple of games that Andres has been in (since you guys would remember and I have no idea), then that'd be very helpful - thanks!

seireikhaan
11-18-2012, 16:47
You know, it's entirely possible that I would've changed my vote at some point(likely to NinjaCow), but now I've got no choice but to continue voting you for your hostile, bitter, "I'm caught and frustrated" demeanor. Way to totally overreact at getting two votes. But especially for you breaking out the "you're pro" line. I've played enough LoL that I want to hear that phrase tossed into an incinerator.

No, you're scum for the weirdly certain and aggressive tone you had when you previously admitted to not knowing what was going on.

And don't give me any whining when about being voted for trying when that's literally the accusation you lodge against Andres. (chronology being the only slight difference). Your only other 'accusation' is that he voted potions to somebody.

Arjos
11-18-2012, 18:21
Agreed here, nerves were hit...

Vote: Alsark

Askthepizzaguy
11-18-2012, 18:46
Classic early "I think I've caught a scum" excitement clouding the judgments of several players.

You've caught a townie, nine times out of ten. Bet you any money the scums are just sitting back and laughing at you. You're making it so easy.

Montmorency
11-18-2012, 20:48
How many times out of ten is that the sound of scum-Pizza taunting us? :inquisitive:

Alsark
11-18-2012, 20:53
You know, it's entirely possible that I would've changed my vote at some point(likely to NinjaCow), but now I've got no choice but to continue voting you for your hostile, bitter, "I'm caught and frustrated" demeanor. Way to totally overreact at getting two votes. But especially for you breaking out the "you're pro" line. I've played enough LoL that I want to hear that phrase tossed into an incinerator.

No, you're scum for the weirdly certain and aggressive tone you had when you previously admitted to not knowing what was going on.

And don't give me any whining when about being voted for trying when that's literally the accusation you lodge against Andres. (chronology being the only slight difference). Your only other 'accusation' is that he voted potions to somebody.

Caught and frustrated? Are you joking or being serious? I'm frustrated for being voted for because I am actually presenting a case. Then I ask for help in doing actual scumhunting, but instead of offering help in potentially catching scum, you'd rather just ignore my request and continue to vote me because, for one, you disagree with me, two, because you want to defend your "A team" that hasn't actually been doing anything, and three, as I will show later on, you evidently pulled that "Andres is being Andres" statement out of nowhere and don't want to assist in me calling you out on a lie.


No, you're scum for the weirdly certain and aggressive tone you had when you previously admitted to not knowing what was going on.

I hadn't been particularly keeping up with the thread - but that doesn't mean I don't know what is scummy.


And don't give me any whining when about being voted for trying when that's literally the accusation you lodge against Andres. (chronology being the only slight difference). Your only other 'accusation' is that he voted potions to somebody.

Wait... what? I didn't say anything about Andres giving potions to people - I mentioned Autolycus giving potions to Andres. And these are entirely different things you are talking about. You're voting me for "trying too hard" at scumhunting. Thinking someone is scum for trying too hard at roleplaying is entirely different. How can you even compare the two? I'm trying to catch scum. He's trying to be descriptive and hasn't once done any scumhunting this round. How does that make me the scummy one?

So yeah, thanks again for helping me out with that meta analysis - but it didn't take long to dig deep enough to realize you're lying about Andres' meta:

In Pirate Ship Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142535-Pirate-Ship-Mafia-II-Concluded), where he was town, Andres posted quite a bit by Day 2 - which he hasn't done at all here. Yes, he roleplayed, but he didn't make a GIANT roleplaying post, which, in my experiences, almost always points towards that person being scum. Thus, compared to that round, I don't see "Andres being Andres" here. So Issaikhaan - what exactly is there here where Andres is being TOWN Andres? If you think he's town, tell me why - because it's obviously not his meta, as shown in the linked thread.

Also, I am always like this as town - and that, unlike you lying about Andres' meta, I can actually provide proof of: http://wiki.vendetta-strada.net/wiki/User:Alsark. For a more specific example, you can refer to Roxy Mafia (http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1404&pid=68622#pid68622) (I linked to the start of the day of my being lynched), where I was town, made a case that people didn't like (well, the guy ended up claiming cop) - people disagreed with my plans, I started to get voted for, and I reacted very strongly in my defense. Sounds oddly familiar.

So you can actually take the time and see that I am always like this as town or just choose to ignore that and continue lynching me just because you disagree with me. To be honest, I have a feeling I know which you'll choose, as it seems you'd rather lynch me out of principle now rather than for any actual scumhunting purposes.

TinCow
11-18-2012, 21:12
Alsark is putting enough effort into his posts that lynching him on Day 3 would be a shame. I like his moxy. :2thumbsup:

Vote: Kennigit

What say you, oh pithy one?

Memnon
11-18-2012, 21:15
I'm gonna agree with Chaotix here, Vote: issaikhaan, he's on the attack here.

seireikhaan
11-18-2012, 21:20
Caught and frustrated? Are you joking or being serious? I'm frustrated for being voted for because I am actually presenting a case. Then I ask for help in doing actual scumhunting, but instead of offering help in potentially catching scum, you'd rather just ignore my request and continue to vote me because, for one, you disagree with me, two, because you want to defend your "A team" that hasn't actually been doing anything, and three, as I will show later on, you evidently pulled that "Andres is being Andres" statement out of nowhere and don't want to assist in me calling you out on a lie.
Nah. I don't feel like linking you to a bunch of games because that's work and there's sunday football. Suffice it to say, I was not particularly swayed by your argument of him "lurking" for a whole day phase, which, since you love proof, you did not link any evidence for. Andres does have things besides mafia to attend to, like running the forum, being a father, etcetera. I am not sufficiently bothered with him lurking for one phase.


I hadn't been particularly keeping up with the thread - but that doesn't mean I don't know what is scummy.



Wait... what? I didn't say anything about Andres giving potions to people - I mentioned Autolycus giving potions to Andres. And these are entirely different things you are talking about. You're voting me for "trying too hard" at scumhunting. Thinking someone is scum for trying too hard at roleplaying is entirely different. How can you even compare the two? I'm trying to catch scum. He's trying to be descriptive and hasn't once done any scumhunting this round. How does that make me the scummy one?

So yeah, thanks again for helping me out with that meta analysis - but it didn't take long to dig deep enough to realize you're lying about Andres' meta:

In Pirate Ship Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142535-Pirate-Ship-Mafia-II-Concluded), where he was town, Andres posted quite a bit by Day 2 - which he hasn't done at all here. Yes, he roleplayed, but he didn't make a GIANT roleplaying post, which, in my experiences, almost always points towards that person being scum. Thus, compared to that round, I don't see "Andres being Andres" here. So Issaikhaan - what exactly is there here where Andres is being TOWN Andres? If you think he's town, tell me why - because it's obviously not his meta, as shown in the linked thread.
Meh. Different circumstances. Pirate Ship I was a highly memorable game, the sequel of which had been highly anticipated for a year. Pretty natural he came out blazing. Furthermore, 1 game is hardly qualifies as an analysis of the "andres" meta. But by all means, go ahead and believe that I'm lying to you.


Also, I am always like this as town - and that, unlike you lying about Andres' meta, I can actually provide proof of: http://wiki.vendetta-strada.net/wiki/User:Alsark. For a more specific example, you can refer to Roxy Mafia (http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1404&pid=68622#pid68622) (I linked to the start of the day of my being lynched), where I was town, made a case that people didn't like (well, the guy ended up claiming cop) - people disagreed with my plans, I started to get voted for, and I reacted very strongly in my defense. Sounds oddly familiar.

So you can actually take the time and see that I am always like this as town or just choose to ignore that and continue lynching me just because you disagree with me. To be honest, I have a feeling I know which you'll choose, as it seems you'd rather lynch me out of principle now rather than for any actual scumhunting purposes.
Frankly, if you're always like this after getting voted twice, you should re-think your town strategy, because it's highly scummy. It makes you seem oversensitive to being voted, a blatant mafia tell. Maybe too blatant, but better than anything I have to work with.

And yes. You want a "meta" analysis of me? I have principles. Some of them are rational, some are not. I will vote for people that violate them. Congratulations.

Jarema
11-18-2012, 21:31
mid-day tally:
Alsark (3): Issaikhaan, Elite Ferret, Arjos
Andres (2): Alsark, NinjaCow
Issaikhaan (2): Chaotix, Memnon
NinjaCow: Edse
Kennigit: TinCow

Not voting: a lot

NinjaCow64
11-18-2012, 21:45
Okay, I'm agreeing with Khan here, Alsark is flinching like all hell. Unvote; Vote: Alsark

Riedquat
11-18-2012, 22:04
Okay, I'm agreeing with Khan here, Alsark is flinching like all hell. Unvote; Vote: Alsark

Wasn't you who started this thing about about Andres? :stare:

Vote: NinjaCow64

White_eyes:D
11-18-2012, 22:05
Honestly, I don't know why anyone would panic in the day phase...you would need about at least 6+ votes in the lead to kill you outright. I just don't see everyone jumping on-board to reach those numbers.:shrug:

Vote:Kennigit

Alsark
11-18-2012, 22:38
Nah. I don't feel like linking you to a bunch of games because that's work and there's sunday football. Suffice it to say, I was not particularly swayed by your argument of him "lurking" for a whole day phase, which, since you love proof, you did not link any evidence for. Andres does have things besides mafia to attend to, like running the forum, being a father, etcetera. I am not sufficiently bothered with him lurking for one phase.

Or just taking a minute to go, "He has been in this game, this game, and this game," without linking them. But hey - that's cool. Evidently you have 5+ minutes to argue with me, but not 1 minute to tell me what rounds he has been in that you have played with him in. Guess you really don't like the idea of me proving you wrong.

Also... provide proof that he has been lurking? Are we looking at the same game thread? The proof is already all right here, mah man. He posts on Day 1 with a big RP post. I observe Arjos and Autolycus give him items and say one of them is probably scum with him - this is basically just a gut read at this point (also, ironically, Arjos is now voting for me). Not counting pre-game posts (which would be 1/3 of his posts if I did count them), he has made a grandiose total of four posts. Missing a day phase? Hardly, bro - it's Day 3.


Meh. Different circumstances. Pirate Ship I was a highly memorable game, the sequel of which had been highly anticipated for a year. Pretty natural he came out blazing. Furthermore, 1 game is hardly qualifies as an analysis of the "andres" meta. But by all means, go ahead and believe that I'm lying to you.

Believe? Nah - let's show.

In page 4 of Hey, Nobody is Hosting This Large Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?140930-Hey-nobody-is-hosting-this-Large-Mafia-Concluded/page4) he, as town, makes more posts on Day 1 than he has in this entire thread so far.

In Netherworld III: Final Judgment (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136981-Netherworld-III-Final-Judgment-Concluded) he, as town, had made seven posts by Day 3 and didn't make any sort of big roleplaying posts.

This is a quote from Andres himself in Sigurd Mafia:


It was particularly unfortunate that I had to be out of town for four days, right after my public reveal; but I felt I couldn't wait longer before people would call me out on lurking (which wasn't intentional, but caused by RL circumstances), which is uncharacteristic for me.

My friend, even Andres is saying that Andres isn't being Andres.

A lot of rounds were difficult to meta-analyze either because I couldn't find his affiliation (you guys seem to hide the affiliation of people really well here... not updating it in the OP, not revealing it on death, and occasionally not showing it in the end thread, either), or because he wouldn't have gotten his role or was out of town for extended periods of the round. On the plus side, my extensive meta analysis also brought me across this most excellent picture:

https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7606/catinakilt.png

Could somebody name (you don't even have to link) a round where he has been scum in? Every round I saw he was town in - and it would help a lot to get a feel for his scum meta as comparison.


Frankly, if you're always like this after getting voted twice, you should re-think your town strategy, because it's highly scummy. It makes you seem oversensitive to being voted, a blatant mafia tell. Maybe too blatant, but better than anything I have to work with.

And yes. You want a "meta" analysis of me? I have principles. Some of them are rational, some are not. I will vote for people that violate them. Congratulations.

Well, there is typically only one other site I play mafia at - and everyone there knows me anyway, so it's to be expected that I am like this. So... your principle is to vote for people who you disagree with, who vote for people in the "A Team", who act aggressive in their scumhunting, and/or who drop "you're pro" lines, regardless of their affiliation - which you'll refuse to actually take the time to look into because football, yet don't offer to look into things on Monday, either. So in summary, you're sticking to a lynch that doesn't make sense just because you don't like me when, with a little bit of effort and research, you could easily see that this is always how I act as town; then you're using "I have principles" as an excuse to hide behind said lynch. Maybe you, Sir, need to rethink your town strategy, as well. In my realm, we actually try to lynch people we find scummy, not just lynch people we dislike.

Alsark
11-18-2012, 22:44
Okay, I'm agreeing with Khan here, Alsark is flinching like all hell. Unvote; Vote: Alsark

Flinching? I'm retorting against things that make no sense. And you never answered my question regarding your giant scum post. Here, let me repost it for you since you evidently didn't feel like replying to it the first time:



A friend suggested that they were scummy. And I trusted that friend's judgement. Since I wasn't really in the mood for making a case, that's who I voted for.

Who is "a friend"? And why is this person not voting for Andres himself? And in your post you say "they" are scummy. Who is they?

Are you trying to look scummy by ignoring my questions regarding your scum post and then voting me just because the cool kids are doing it when there is evidence I have laid out that this is always how I act as town - which you choose to ignore? Because if you are trying to act scummy then you're doing a superb job of it. Because "my friend's judgment" sounds a lot like, "a scum buddy told me to and then didn't want to vote for Andres himself." That's what I'm getting from this - and your decision to ignore my questioning is really not helping you out in that regard.

LazyMcCrow
11-18-2012, 22:48
Meh. Vote: Kennigit

seireikhaan
11-18-2012, 23:04
Or just taking a minute to go, "He has been in this game, this game, and this game," without linking them. But hey - that's cool. Evidently you have 5+ minutes to argue with me, but not 1 minute to tell me what rounds he has been in that you have played with him in. Guess you really don't like the idea of me proving you wrong.

Also... provide proof that he has been lurking? Are we looking at the same game thread? The proof is already all right here, mah man. He posts on Day 1 with a big RP post. I observe Arjos and Autolycus give him items and say one of them is probably scum with him - this is basically just a gut read at this point (also, ironically, Arjos is now voting for me). Not counting pre-game posts (which would be 1/3 of his posts if I did count them), he has made a grandiose total of four posts. Missing a day phase? Hardly, bro - it's Day 3.
Once again- it's day 3. You hardly waited for the phase to begin to declare him a "lurker" when lurking in itself implies inactivity over several rounds. For the average player in this game, he was fine round 1.




Believe? Nah - let's show.

In page 4 of Hey, Nobody is Hosting This Large Mafia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?140930-Hey-nobody-is-hosting-this-Large-Mafia-Concluded/page4) he, as town, makes more posts on Day 1 than he has in this entire thread so far.

In Netherworld III: Final Judgment (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136981-Netherworld-III-Final-Judgment-Concluded) he, as town, had made seven posts by Day 3 and didn't make any sort of big roleplaying posts.

This is a quote from Andres himself in Sigurd Mafia:

For the record, Andres was entirely anti-town in N3. He was part of a serial killing pair. I should know, I hosted it. :wink:



My friend, even Andres is saying that Andres isn't being Andres.

A lot of rounds were difficult to meta-analyze either because I couldn't find his affiliation (you guys seem to hide the affiliation of people really well here... not updating it in the OP, not revealing it on death, and occasionally not showing it in the end thread, either), or because he wouldn't have gotten his role or was out of town for extended periods of the round. On the plus side, my extensive meta analysis also brought me across this most excellent picture:

https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7606/catinakilt.png

Could somebody name (you don't even have to link) a round where he has been scum in? Every round I saw he was town in - and it would help a lot to get a feel for his scum meta as comparison.



Well, there is typically only one other site I play mafia at - and everyone there knows me anyway, so it's to be expected that I am like this. So... your principle is to vote for people who you disagree with, who vote for people in the "A Team", who act aggressive in their scumhunting, and/or who drop "you're pro" lines, regardless of their affiliation - which you'll refuse to actually take the time to look into because football, yet don't offer to look into things on Monday, either. So in summary, you're sticking to a lynch that doesn't make sense just because you don't like me when, with a little bit of effort and research, you could easily see that this is always how I act as town; then you're using "I have principles" as an excuse to hide behind said lynch. Maybe you, Sir, need to rethink your town strategy, as well. In my realm, we actually try to lynch people we find scummy, not just lynch people we dislike.
Afaik, the last time that Andres was scum was, in fact N3, that one game you thought he was town. And the principles I want you lynched for are: A) The hyper-sensitive response to 2 votes in a game where lynch isn't even auto-death, and B) The so pro remark.

Alsark
11-18-2012, 23:20
That's exactly what I'm talking about - you guys make it impossible to figure out people's affiliations after the fact. All I know is that he wasn't mafia - hence, he wasn't technically speaking "scum". A serial killer needs to act differently than a generic scum team, as they both need to avoid getting night hit and avoid getting lynched. A generic scum team does not need to worry about getting night hit.

Well I already showed that that is always how I respond to getting votes on me (which you'd rather ignore, so whatever); so basically your lynch on me is now just for the "so pro" comment. So effectively it's now a random lynch. That's cool, but we shouldn't be random lynching on Day 3.


Once again- it's day 3. You hardly waited for the phase to begin to declare him a "lurker" when lurking in itself implies inactivity over several rounds. For the average player in this game, he was fine round 1.

One of the main things comes from the very stark contrast in his interest in the round and then suddenly switching to lurk mode (where I come from you're pretty well expected to post every phase, which, granted, I haven't done a good job of this round myself). That in combination with Autolycus buddying with him struck me as them likely being scum together.


Anyways, thinking of switching to Ninjacow anyway due to that giant scum post if he doesn't explain himself - and if Ninjacow is scum then Andres probably isn't scum.

Ferret
11-18-2012, 23:43
I agree with TC, Alsark's posts are certainly interesting to read.

unvote, vote:NinjaCow64

If Andres was scummy according to your 'friend', how come your 'friend' didn't vote for him?

Ignoramus
11-19-2012, 00:24
I don't necessarily think Andres is scum - he could be one of the initial players of the colleges though. What is interesting to note is that Montmorency and Ironside both voted for the Shield of purity to go to Ironside in the initial phase. Given that we now know that Monty was the wielder of a the Aeromancers, it strongly suggests that Ironside is their master. Perhaps ninja was following a similar analysis with Andres, I don't know. His posts certainly seem strange though.

We don't know how many scum players the game started with, but it's unlikely they would have known each other. The most likely hypothesis at this stage is that one of them hopped on the khaan Shield of Purity bandwagon to avoid suspicion.

My suspicion currently falls upon Riedquat - he's been keeping pretty low. So a pressure vote: Vote: Riedquat.

autolycus
11-19-2012, 02:27
None of the current candidates are feeling right to me, so I will join the pressure on Vote:Riedquat

El Barto
11-19-2012, 05:05
How nice to see that the people here use my lovely cat pic.
Oh hush, you. I'm allowed to be a good townie. Occasionally.
No you're not.

You know, it's entirely possible that I would've changed my vote at some point(likely to NinjaCow), but now I've got no choice but to continue voting you for your hostile, bitter, "I'm caught and frustrated" demeanor. Way to totally overreact at getting two votes. But especially for you breaking out the "you're pro" line. I've played enough LoL that I want to hear that phrase tossed into an incinerator.

No, you're scum for the weirdly certain and aggressive tone you had when you previously admitted to not knowing what was going on.

And don't give me any whining when about being voted for trying when that's literally the accusation you lodge against Andres. (chronology being the only slight difference). Your only other 'accusation' is that he voted potions to somebody.
You and Alsark, both are scummy, too chatty. Why?

Meh. Vote: Kennigit

None of the current candidates are feeling right to me, so I will join the pressure on Vote:Riedquat
Convenient votes, eh?

Ignoramus
11-19-2012, 05:08
How nice to see that the people here use my lovely cat pic.
No you're not.

You and Alsark, both are scummy, too chatty. Why?


Convenient votes, eh?

Your post is entirely meaningless and irrelevant too for that matter.

NinjaCow64
11-19-2012, 08:07
Flinching? I'm retorting against things that make no sense.

Retorting against 2-3 poorly thought out votes should take a few lines at most. Not multiple posts full of text walls. That, my friend, is called flinching.


And you never answered my question regarding your giant scum post. Here, let me repost it for you since you evidently didn't feel like replying to it the first time

Sorry about that. My friend is an inactive player who I know to be town. And he thought you were scummy. And "they" are you, as in a way of saying "it" without all the negative connoations that implies. :)



If Andres was scummy according to your 'friend', how come your 'friend' didn't vote for him?

He's completely disappeared, that's why.

Askthepizzaguy
11-19-2012, 08:12
How many times out of ten is that the sound of scum-Pizza taunting us? :inquisitive:

In terms of this game, zero, but I don't mind being lynched on such logic. At least that smacks of trying to read me, albeit failing.

This is the part where I would say something more productive if I were either mafia or a townie with a shred of a clue. I'm not sure my reads are good in a game this complex and I'm quite distracted elsewhere.

I don't want to press Andres just yet.

Unvote, vote abstain

My vote is again up for grabs. Someone direct me.

Visor
11-19-2012, 10:21
Vote: Ignoramus

LazyMcCrow
11-19-2012, 10:22
Incidentally - As it seems from the write up that you guys are all factioned up; I'm feeling a little left out - if anyone wants to recruit a keen, if critically wounded, student to their faction, I'll be waiting patiently for your invites
:bow:

Andres
11-19-2012, 13:56
My reason stems from Day 1. He makes a post that is WAY too "into the game", which I often believe to be mafia-like... and then he just like, totally disappears for a very long time - lurking is also mafia-like. That's double mafia likeness. Then you have Autolycus constantly giving Andres items, like the shield and water potion, when there is really very, very little reason to be doing so.

Hence, Autolycus+Andres scum team.

Allthough I find it weird that a young woman like autolycus would fall for my charms, given my age, it is perfectly understandable. After all, I'm still a handsome man and my red eyes are irresistable.

Reminds me of that dragon. AsktheTinCow she was called, which, when you come to think of it, was an odd name for a dragon. Anyway, she was smoking hot. Hahaha. Did you get it? Dragon? Smoking hot? Hahaha. Anyway, AsktheTin...

"Not again. Oh please! Not again!," a tormented sounding voice yelled and suddenly, a gigantic monkey appeared right next to Andres. "Can somebody please shut this old fool up already? For centuries, I have been listening to his ramblings. This dragon story, it's ooooooo...ld. I've heard it at least 2 million times!"


I'm not that old!

Vote : Alsark

A very scummy self preservation vote. Now, you'll have to excuse me all why I renew my "control gigantic monkey" spells. You really don't want him to break free. You really don't. Last time it happened.

"SHUT UP, CRAZY FOOL!"

I'll leave you youngsters to finding the scum. I'm too busy in that corner over there trying to get the most dangerous threat in the world under my spell again. Now, hush hush, leave me be.

johnhughthom
11-19-2012, 14:33
Incidentally - As it seems from the write up that you guys are all factioned up; I'm feeling a little left out - if anyone wants to recruit a keen, if critically wounded, student to their faction, I'll be waiting patiently for your invites
:bow:

Meh, I got invited and my college head appears to have gone the way of headmaster Jarema. Why do they keep giving these jobs to dozy old duffers.

Vote: Visorslash

BSmith
11-19-2012, 14:58
Sorry about that. My friend is an inactive player who I know to be town. And he thought you were scummy. And "they" are you, as in a way of saying "it" without all the negative connoations that implies. :)

So your “friend” has time to talk to you about who is scummy and who isn’t yet can’t find the time to come here and post a simple vote? And how do you know he is town? There is a lot that is still not adding up here. vote: NinjaCow64

TinCow
11-19-2012, 15:25
Unvote; Vote: NinjaCow64

Kennigit
11-19-2012, 16:38
My reason stems from Day 1. He makes a post that is WAY too "into the game", which I often believe to be mafia-like... and then he just like, totally disappears for a very long time - lurking is also mafia-like. That's double mafia likeness. Then you have Autolycus constantly giving Andres items, like the shield and water potion, when there is really very, very little reason to be doing so.

Hence, Autolycus+Andres scum team.


So your “friend” has time to talk to you about who is scummy and who isn’t yet can’t find the time to come here and post a simple vote? And how do you know he is town? There is a lot that is still not adding up here. vote: NinjaCow64

I'm quite unsure why people are ignoring the possibilities of college recruitment, as that may be the case for autolycus/andres and I'd definitely think ninjacow just wants to follow the actions of his head master.

however, that's awfully scummy on ninjacow; just wants to go with the flow (but I bet you ain't water!). Recruitments aren't always innocent. Vote: Ninjacow

LazyMcCrow
11-19-2012, 17:43
unvote: kennigit vote: ninjacow

Ironside
11-19-2012, 18:36
Vote: NinjaCow64

Jarema
11-19-2012, 22:03
Third Void Day was different than previous ones. At the evening, a lot of members joined their votes against NinjaCow. When the time came, they pummeled him wit joined elemental might. And it was too much for this old, tired caster. Mistress Frashene, head of the College of Flames, died as elements constituing her body dispersed, and only faint streak of smoke marked place where she had fallen.
NinjaCow was lynched!
(S)he was innocent. He was Mistres Frashene, the Pyromancer, head of the College of Flames

Among items of NinjaCow Everburning Torch was found. As it is sacred artifact of the College of Flames, it was given to the college wielders.

Tally:
NinjaCow (8): Edse, Riedquat, Elite Ferret, BSmith, TinCow, Kennigit. LazyMcCrow, Ironside
Alsark (4): Issaikhaan, Arjos, NinjaCow, Andres
Issaikhaan (2): Chaotix, Memnon
Riedquat (2): Ignoramus, Autolycus
Andres: Alsark
Kennigit: White Eyes
Ignoramus: Visorslash
Visorslash: Johnhughtom
abstain: ATPG
Not voting: Captain Blackadder, El Barto, Robbiecon, Xenoneb


Week 3 begins!

OOC: I will sent upgrade on your HP, XP and other parameters during night. This would describe your stats at the end of day 3.

Living Players:
1. Captain Blackadder
2. Riedquat
3. Autolycus
4. LazyMcCrow
5. Chaotix
6.
7. Askthepizzaguy
8. Memnon
9. Arjos
10. Edse
11. BSmith
12.
13. Alsark
14. Ironside
15. Visorslash
16. Issaikhaan
17. Andres
18. Tincow
19. Kennigit
20. White eyes:D
21. Xenoneb
22. Robbiecon
23. Ignoramus
24. Johnhughtom
25. El Barto
26. Elite Ferret

Dead Players
Montmorency (aeromancers)
NinjaCow (pyromancers)

Montmorency
11-19-2012, 22:07
Ouch. I'm going to have to pull a Pizza and proclaim my despair for the Town now...

Alsark
11-19-2012, 22:09
Retorting against 2-3 poorly thought out votes should take a few lines at most. Not multiple posts full of text walls. That, my friend, is called flinching.

I love how you refuse to look even one minute into my meta. I am known for massive walls of text. How is that considered flinching? Explain that to me.


Sorry about that. My friend is an inactive player who I know to be town. And he thought you were scummy. And "they" are you, as in a way of saying "it" without all the negative connoations that implies. :)

Wait, wait, wait... so "they" is me, as in Alsark... so you vote for the person I am voting for (Andres) because your most likely either non-existent or scum buddy friend told you that *I* am scummy? So you vote WITH the person that you and your "friend" thinks is scum? ... Am I understanding what you are saying right now?




He's completely disappeared, that's why.

He completely disappeared, yet your friend is keeping up well enough to know who is scummy and not only think that - but then advise you into voting how they think without voting themselves?

Yeah, okay.

Unvote Andres

Vote Ninjacow


Vote : Alsark

A very scummy self preservation vote

I love how your vote isn't at all a "self-preservation vote", considering there were only two votes on you and like... five or some votes on me. It was entirely, 100% an OMGUS vote.

Alsark
11-19-2012, 22:11
Oh. Guess my late vote didn't matter. But wow, Ninjacow... way to act totally scummy as a head of a college. You'd have been better off just saying you were in the College of Flames rather than pointing to this "mysterious friend", which sounds ginormously scummy.

El Barto
11-19-2012, 22:36
Your post is entirely meaningless and irrelevant too for that matter.
Only an Ignoramus could say such a thing.

Ouch. I'm going to have to pull a Pizza and proclaim my despair for the Town now...
This early?

NinjaCow64
11-19-2012, 22:57
Oh. Guess my late vote didn't matter. But wow, Ninjacow... way to act totally scummy as a head of a college. You'd have been better off just saying you were in the College of Flames rather than pointing to this "mysterious friend", which sounds ginormously scummy.

If I said that I would have been killed by the water people in two shakes of a lambs tail.

And I thought it was pretty obvious what I was saying.

seireikhaan
11-19-2012, 23:40
If I said that I would have been killed by the water people in two shakes of a lambs tail.

And I thought it was pretty obvious what I was saying.
Aww, I'm sure Andres would've been nice about it.

Andres
11-19-2012, 23:43
Oh. Guess my late vote didn't matter. But wow, Ninjacow... way to act totally scummy as a head of a college. You'd have been better off just saying you were in the College of Flames rather than pointing to this "mysterious friend", which sounds ginormously scummy.

It seems like your scumdar is off, dear Alsark.

Anyway, now that I've gotten the monkey under my spell again...

Would sir like steak? Or does he prefer this excellent canard à orange I prepared for him? I have this excellent bottle of Veuve Cliquot....

No, no. No champagne with steak. Get me a bottle of Château neuf du Paepe.

Of course sir. Excellent choice sir!

Good. Where was I? Ah, yes, I've saved you all from the gigantic monkey who was about to eat all of you.

Oh but sir! I would never do such a thing! I'm a law abiding monkey!

Sure you are. Anyway, I see you guys killed the head of the College of Fire... I guess I can't afford to let you youngsters figure it out by yourselves, now can I?

Ok, ok. I'll add my experience to this and will tell you guys who you should eliminate during the next round. Or Void Day as they call it in this day and age.

TinCow
11-20-2012, 00:20
No, no. No champagne with steak. Get me a bottle of Château neuf du Paepe.

You, sir, are a fine specimen of a human being. I applaud your wisdom and good taste. :wine:

Alsark
11-20-2012, 01:13
Aww, I'm sure Andres would've been nice about it.

Are you saying that you + Andres are in the Water college together?

Andres
11-20-2012, 09:12
Are you saying that you + Andres are in the Water college together?

Turning water into wine is actually an easy spell, but for some reason, I've been looking very hard for a formula to turn it into Belgian beer, but it doesn't seem to work. I accidentally stumbled upon the single malt whisky spell, though, so my attempts weren't all in vain.

Askthepizzaguy
11-20-2012, 09:31
And now without further ado, I shall turn a perfectly normal human being into a lifeless corpse.

Ta-da! Magic!

Jarema
11-22-2012, 09:07
Sorry for delay, I was without internet access.
Now I am going to send all pm's and then post update

Jarema
11-22-2012, 09:42
ew informations from our College:
1. Please, welcome new head of College of Fire. Master Ashero was chosen for this spot unanimously by his peers
2. We have sad news. Head of one of Colleges has been killed this week
3. A lot of attack happened, which is natural during education at our College.
4. Fluid sculpture has been found after Hydromancer's dead and would be returned to the College of Waves where it belongs
5. We have found interesting item in the College Armory. It is called Jade Katana, and you should choose a person who will wield it


OOC: Descriptions are short, because there is so many of them, and because I'm short on time. Sorry.

LazyMcCrow was hiding. Severly wounded, he tried to do whatever he could to survive, so during whole week he did not left his hiding place at the rear of the kitchen. But, when someone is determinated, even hiding person can be found. During third day of week Lazy was attacked with a rain of stones, and barely survived, severly beaten. And that was not all... Two days later, someone looking like a mad man (with vicious grin, blood smeared over face, and murder in his eyes) attacked him. Roaring column of flame, seeming to be inhabited by some kind of demonic entities, stormed Lazy. Only due to his extraordinary luck he managed to escape. Bruised, burned, scarred, bleeding, and unconscious, Lazy was found several hours later.

Andres was doing college head's work, when he was attacked by a wind. Attack was really weak, and did not manage to penetrate archmage's defenses. Andres tried to counter-attack, but his mastery over air magic was too low. Amused by this attack, Andres returned to work. Day later, he was not amused at all, when potent whirlwind catched him and banged his body against a wall. Severly beaten, he left his laboratory and went to the physician. But he did not make it. Bolt of fire ended his long life. 'Pyromancers got me finally' was his last thought', before his body melted into pool of water He was innocent. He was Master Bildoboone, head of the College of Waves

Ignoramus was attacked by a gust of wind and wounded a little.

Johnhughtom's quarter was flooded. Someone tried to drown him! He managed to escape, but his health was somewhat damaged.

Alsark was attacked by a water too. And he also managed to escape, with damaged health

Interestingly, the same thing happened to TinCow. And, as a result, his health was also damaged

Kennigit was resting, when a little spark of fire hit his nose. That hideous blister would probably heal for over few days!



OOC: vote for Jade Katana in green .
Day 4 begins!


List of attacked players

Alsark (n3)
Andres (n3, n3, n3)
Askthepizzaguy (n2)
Chaotix (n1)
Edse (n1)
Ignoramus (n3)
Johnhughtom (n3)
Kennigit (n3)
LazyMcCrow (n1, n1, n3, n3)
Montmorency (n1, n2, n2)
TinCow (n3)
Visorslash (n2)
Xenoneb (n1, n2)

Living Players:
1. Captain Blackadder
2. Riedquat
3. Autolycus
4. LazyMcCrow
5. Chaotix
6.
7. Askthepizzaguy
8. Memnon
9. Arjos
10. Edse
11. BSmith
12.
13. Alsark
14. Ironside
15. Visorslash
16. Issaikhaan
17.
18. Tincow
19. Kennigit
20. White eyes:D
21. Xenoneb
22. Robbiecon
23. Ignoramus
24. Johnhughtom
25. El Barto
26. Elite Ferret

Dead Players
Montmorency (aeromancers)
NinjaCow (pyromancers)
Andres (hydromancers)

Andres
11-22-2012, 11:31
Bah.

LazyMcCrow
11-22-2012, 14:37
No attacks on Pizza?
Vote: Visorslash

no idea who gets the Jade Katana,

Riedquat
11-22-2012, 14:44
Lazy, two days ago you were going to give the potions we were voting for to Visorslash, now you are voting for him, what changed? :inquisitive: