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unvote, Vote: Newyn
What level of convinced are you?
Expand on this part more. Why not?
Seemed too insane, you basically threw away your life.
Askthepizzaguy
11-30-2016, 00:08
Seemed too insane, you basically threw away your life.
But I had a very clear plan.
My original plan in the previous scum game was to be bussed early, and then when it didn't happen I rolled with it.
Do you still see a difference between this game and those, and if so, what?
What level of convinced are you?
not very
But I had a very clear plan.
My original plan in the previous scum game was to be bussed early, and then when it didn't happen I rolled with it.
Do you still see a difference between this game and those, and if so, what?
I must have missed the part where it was part of your plan, but at this stage I have to wonder what the point of these questions are. You keep saying that I should have called you mafia when you got in here, and I stated why I didn't. Why then do you keep telling me that your behaviour now is typical of your scum games? Do you want me to lynch you or something?
Askthepizzaguy
11-30-2016, 00:21
I must have missed the part where it was part of your plan, but at this stage I have to wonder what the point of these questions are. You keep saying that I should have called you mafia when you got in here, and I stated why I didn't. Why then do you keep telling me that your behaviour now is typical of your scum games? Do you want me to lynch you or something?
I have to check your thought process and see if it makes any kind of sense from a no information standpoint.
If anyone cares, I think Renata and Zack are town ATM, although I do have some minor suspicions of them.
El Barto
11-30-2016, 00:38
Mont what are your reads so far?
He said ‘not now’. I'm not moving my vote off him.
Pizza... If your scum I'm not going easy on you bertstare.gif
‘If’?
If anyone cares, I think Renata and Zack are town ATM, although I do have some minor suspicions of them.
Why should we care?
Could someone please post a votecount? Novice posted a thread with his tool so it should be easy to find, but I can't get it working on mobile.
Seriously, ifyou can so much as find me a post #, I'll go looking for it. I'm a little to lazy to do the thread hunting myself.
El Barto
11-30-2016, 00:49
It's right there in the gameroom: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152304-Vote-Counter
El Barto
11-30-2016, 01:01
So do I. ~:grouphug:
Tally as of post 264:
Lynch votes
5 votes: Dp101 (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725427#post2053725427), atheotes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725497#post2053725497), Renata (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725597#post2053725597), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725601#post2053725601), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725718#post2053725718))
2 votes: Montmorency (El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725453#post2053725453), Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725669#post2053725669))
1 votes: Al Sips (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725315#post2053725315))
1 votes: Choxorn (Montmorency (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725525#post2053725525))
1 votes: Newyn (Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725616#post2053725616))
1 votes: No Lynch (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725623#post2053725623))
1 votes: Riedquat (Choxorn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725683#post2053725683))
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725688#post2053725688))
Voting history:
Stork
Stork
Montmorency
Al Sips
Stork
El Barto
Dp101
Choxorn
Choxorn
Dp101
general hankerchief
Unvote
Unvote
Montmorency
Dp101
Atheotes
Choxorn
dp101
dp101
Newyn
No Lynch
Montmorency
Riedquat
Askthepizzaguy
Askthepizzaguy
dp101
Finally got to a computer, wow I am far more screwed than I thought.
That's not correct. Zack and I are both voting Newyn. I thought I did my vote post right and surely Zack did. Is the tally up to date?
Just checked again, tally is broken. Going to ask Novice what the problem is. This might be annoying.
El Barto
11-30-2016, 01:36
I already pointed out your tallies being wrong yesterday. :/
Heh, at least I proved conclusively that somebody was wrong on the Internet.
I already pointed out your tallies being wrong yesterday. :/
Heh, at least I proved conclusively that somebody was wrong on the Internet.
I know, and I'm sorry for not acknowledging it, for some stupid reason I thought it would fix itself.
El Barto
11-30-2016, 01:40
Dangit, I red the last 100-150 posts in one go today when I was trying to catch up with the thread (most of it was fluff…). If I had known I would have done the tally as I went. :S
El Barto
11-30-2016, 01:49
It doesn't understand
unvote, vote: x
nor
unvote; vote: x
Just simply post vote: x. You don't need to unvote.
If you absolutely want to unvote first, do it in a separate bolded segment, e.g. Unvote and Vote: x
In general, if a vote is recognized by the script, the post header will indicate that the post contains a vote.
So I'd say people had better just unvote or post a new vote, to avoid confusion. What do we do with the votes of those who might not be around to see this before tomorrow? Going through +200 posts is a freaking drag.
Ah.
vote: Newyn
The OP is misleading.
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 02:50
O hai,
vote: BSmith
El Barto
11-30-2016, 03:20
What do we do with the votes of those who might not be around to see this before tomorrow? Visor
O hai,
vote: BSmith
Isn't it a bit late for this sort of thing?
El Barto, dear, you are being extremely helpful with the votes, but otherwise are pinging neither the useful townie box I've seen from you recently nor the 'scummiest townie ever' box I think I remember. What's up, scumbuddy?
El Barto, dear, you are being extremely helpful with the votes, but otherwise are pinging neither the useful townie box I've seen from you recently nor the 'scummiest townie ever' box I think I remember. What's up, scumbuddy?
it is an interesting juxtaposition that he cares so much about the votes while simultaneously not caring who is lynched
it is an interesting juxtaposition that he cares so much about the votes while simultaneously not caring who is lynched
Anyone can care about other people getting their votes in and the game actually working without caring about who dies at the end. This is a really weird attitude from you.
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 03:33
Isn't it a bit late for this sort of thing?
It's never late to vote BSmith. One day he'll rand mafia and I'll lynch him on D1.
El Barto
11-30-2016, 03:35
El Barto, dear, you are being extremely helpful with the votes, but otherwise are pinging neither the useful townie box I've seen from you recently nor the 'scummiest townie ever' box I think I remember. What's up, scumbuddy?
You're only supposed to call me scumbuddy on the mafia QT.
Anyway, I'm trying to find an unhelpful medium ground.
it is an interesting juxtaposition that he cares so much about the votes while simultaneously not caring who is lynched
I already care and am voting for the oddly unhelpful Montmorency. Feel free to join me.
El Barto
11-30-2016, 03:39
It's never late to vote BSmith. One day he'll rand mafia and I'll lynch him on D1.
Yyyyeah, right. Just admit you want to be the johnhughthom to his Winston.
Anyone can care about other people getting their votes in and the game actually working without caring about who dies at the end. This is a really weird attitude from you.
wut
people should care who get lynched
how am i the one with a "really weird attitude"
like you don't find anything wrong with him not being able to find anything to say other than commenting on incorrect tallies? how is that such a weird observation for me to make??
El Barto
11-30-2016, 03:49
You used the word ‘juxtaposition’. You never use pentasyllables if you can help it.
wut
people should care who get lynched
how am i the one with a "really weird attitude"
I think people should indeed care about the lynch, I was just saying that it is understandable for them not to have any strong feelings one way or the other and it is more weird to call someone out for trying to make sure the tools for the game are working.
Zack sounds like Dp's partner to me. Don't mind Renata's vote.
Zack sounds like Dp's partner to me. Don't mind Renata's vote.
Why would a pair of mafia have both distrust each other this much and yet still have one call the other town? Makes no sense.
GeneralHankerchief
11-30-2016, 05:30
You people need to change your avatars, too many people are playing with the forum default.
Why would a pair of mafia have both distrust each other this much and yet still have one call the other town? Makes no sense.
Why would they not?
GeneralHankerchief
11-30-2016, 05:30
Why would a pair of mafia have both distrust each other this much and yet still have one call the other town? Makes no sense.
After the first two games you've played on the .Org, you're seriously putting anything past this bunch?
GeneralHankerchief
11-30-2016, 05:34
I'm not really sure where the parade of Newyn votes came from besides the usual "lol day 1" sentiment but they need to wait because Dp101 really needs to be strung up today.
After the first two games you've played on the .Org, you're seriously putting anything past this bunch?
Fair, fair. I will try to find an alternate avatar too, should have done this earlier.
I'm not really sure where the parade of Newyn votes came from besides the usual "lol day 1" sentiment but they need to wait because Dp101 really needs to be strung up today.
Still sticking to your case, not touching anything else that happened today? Why me still, just a lack of other good options from your POV? I agree with that sentiment broadly FWIW, no one is pinging me majorly (other than Monty, but he looked equally scummy to me as both scum and town so I hesitate to vote him).
One final minor thing in my defence. In every past game I have been in, if you give me a Q/T I have vanished into it and posted far less and far less openly. Last game, I was neighbourised on the first night and did not post that much/talk that much inthread, with most of my transparency lying in the Q/T. In my first game (which I know is a bit of an anomaly because first game, but it is still relevant I promise) the game thread had 950 posts, with 90 by me as a surviving winning mafia. The mafia Q/T, containing 3 out of the 12 players, had 400 posts, and I posted more than half of them. History has shown that if you give me somewhere to post that is not the main thread, I will pour all my thoughts and posts into them and not post as much in the main thread. Yet, this game, have I done that? I have been posting to the best of my ability rather consistently over the day, and always trying to explain why I did what I did, even if that reasoning seems scummy and is more likely to kill me. Would a mafia really give players this much ammunition to use against them, and would I post this openly in the game thread if I had a Q/T? I wish I had an actual good case to push rather than a simple defence, but alas, this is all I have for now to convince people to not kill me.
One final minor thing in my defence. In every past game I have been in, if you give me a Q/T I have vanished into it and posted far less and far less openly. Last game, I was neighbourised on the first night and did not post that much/talk that much inthread, with most of my transparency lying in the Q/T. In my first game (which I know is a bit of an anomaly because first game, but it is still relevant I promise) the game thread had 950 posts, with 90 by me as a surviving winning mafia. The mafia Q/T, containing 3 out of the 12 players, had 400 posts, and I posted more than half of them. History has shown that if you give me somewhere to post that is not the main thread, I will pour all my thoughts and posts into them and not post as much in the main thread. Yet, this game, have I done that? I have been posting to the best of my ability rather consistently over the day, and always trying to explain why I did what I did, even if that reasoning seems scummy and is more likely to kill me. Would a mafia really give players this much ammunition to use against them, and would I post this openly in the game thread if I had a Q/T? I wish I had an actual good case to push rather than a simple defence, but alas, this is all I have for now to convince people to not kill me.
http://imgur.com/nXQ0htx.gif
http://imgur.com/nXQ0htx.gif
All I am trying to say is that in games where I am given a Q/T I tend to become less transparent, and I don't feel I am doing that this game.
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 06:49
You people need to change your avatars, too many people are playing with the forum default.
No.
I already care and am voting for the oddly unhelpful Montmorency. Feel free to join me.
Get off it.
If one will fault Barto for not caring about the lynch, then put it on him for parking his vote on me and pretending he's playing the game. You're being lazy, Bart - can you keep it up in the following days? It's not enough to just be lazy on Day 1 for you, savvy?
Why would a pair of mafia have both distrust each other this much and yet still have one call the other town? Makes no sense.
Well, it's what Pizza did with me in the Futurama game. Your complaint only holds if you imagine that the Mafia are in fact townies. Distancing is a common tactic and this could certainly be an example of how it looks. I don't think it is in this case, but in principle it could be.
I'm not really sure where the parade of Newyn votes came from besides the usual "lol day 1" sentiment but they need to wait because Dp101 really needs to be strung up today.
GH, consider whether you are sorely mistaken or just a scum partner to Choxorn.
Who's the lever?
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 06:50
Unvote: Choxorn
Vote: Choxorn
http://imgur.com/nXQ0htx.gif
pmuch
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 07:03
Common Zack/Renata, give it some consideration.
Choxorn started off by voting DP101, then GH followed up with his "case", and from there the wagon got rolling. Choxorn then abandoned the DP vote and began flipping around with randomesque votes.
I'm not going to bother attacking Pizza (yet), but with how consistently townish DP has been I can't see that at least one of Choxorn and GH isn't scum. What better way to waste a lynch than to lynch the general consensus town player, DP101?
There is a concerted effort here, and one or more of these guys is angling.
Common Zack/Renata, give it some consideration.
Choxorn started off by voting DP101, then GH followed up with his "case", and from there the wagon got rolling. Choxorn then abandoned the DP vote and began flipping around with randomesque votes.
I'm not going to bother attacking Pizza (yet), but with how consistently townish DP has been I can't see that at least one of Choxorn and GH isn't scum. What better way to waste a lynch than to lynch the general consensus town player, DP101?
There is a concerted effort here, and one or more of these guys is angling.
Oh my god, I can't believe this. I'm reading a Monty post and agreeing with every word, what is this reality.
Riedquat
11-30-2016, 07:05
Unvote; Vote: Choxorn because OMGUS!
Unvote; Vote: Choxorn because OMGUS!
Haven't you heard, that formatting screws up the vote counter. Do it like this Vote: Choxorn with no unvote.
Riedquat
11-30-2016, 07:09
Oh my god, I can't believe this. I'm reading a Monty post and agreeing with every word, what is this reality.
You need to shut up for a bit dp.... your exaggerated transparency is making me a bit nervous :stare:
You need to shut up for a bit dp.... your exaggerated transparency is making me a bit nervous :stare:
Probably, I should really go do my homework instead, I just really don't want to die.
Common Zack/Renata, give it some consideration.
~:confused:
I don't think dp has been any different than the most recent game, so idk where all the votes are coming from.
Zack can you say what you didn't like about newyn?
I thought he had ONE ok post earlier but I really can't tell that well this game.
Sad wytch left too but whatever will be will be.
I think al sips is pretty wolfy.
Zack can you say what you didn't like about newyn?
I thought he had ONE ok post earlier but I really can't tell that well this game.
Sad wytch left too but whatever will be will be.
I think al sips is pretty wolfy.
he gave a reads list where he found renata wolfy
then never followed up on it and voted the lead wagon with no justification
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 08:00
I think al sips is pretty wolfy.
In all of two posts? Not this again.
so idk where all the votes are coming from.
Well, how about my interpretation?
Scarlett Aria
11-30-2016, 08:03
Zack can you say what you didn't like about newyn?
I thought he had ONE ok post earlier but I really can't tell that well this game.
Sad wytch left too but whatever will be will be.
I think al sips is pretty wolfy.
why al sips?
I read his post in this page with the vote in it and it felt weird.
:thumb:
Didn't realise it was his first post, think my point still stands though.
Hey Scarlett, you still around? Feel like giving out some reads?
Tally as of post 318:
Lynch votes
4 votes: Dp101 (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725427#post2053725427), atheotes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725497#post2053725497), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725601#post2053725601), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725718#post2053725718))
2 votes: Montmorency (El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725453#post2053725453), Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725669#post2053725669))
2 votes: Choxorn (Montmorency (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725844#post2053725844), Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725849#post2053725849))
2 votes: Newyn (Renata (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725803#post2053725803), Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725808#post2053725808))
1 votes: Al Sips (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725315#post2053725315))
1 votes: No Lynch (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725623#post2053725623))
1 votes: Riedquat (Choxorn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725683#post2053725683))
1 votes: BSmith (Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152287&p=2053725807#post2053725807))
Voting history:
Stork
Stork
Montmorency
Al Sips
Stork
El Barto
Dp101
Choxorn
Choxorn
Dp101
general hankerchief
Unvote
Unvote
Montmorency
Dp101
Atheotes
Choxorn
dp101
dp101
Newyn
No Lynch
Montmorency
Riedquat
Askthepizzaguy
Askthepizzaguy
dp101
Newyn
newyns
BSmith
newyn
Unvote
Choxorn
Choxorn
Chox should have one more vote since Quat messed up the formatting and so the plugin didn't count the vote.
Please people consolidate.
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 08:47
That's who's missing: Stork, are you plotting a deciding vote?
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 08:49
I read his post in this page with the vote in it and it felt weird.
:thumb:
lolstork
Vote: Choxorn
lolstork
Vote: Choxorn
what?
I don't understand how it is a "lolstork"
Hey Stork, you going to vote? I'd like to know if I'm going to die before I go to sleep.
That's who's missing: Stork, are you plotting a deciding vote?
there isn't a way to make a deciding vote right now, nor do I have any idea who would be.
I guess eod will be reasonably inactive from this point onwards maybe so it is doubtful my vote impacts on anything.
my feeling right now is I could just vote dp because he defended himself but didn't particularly assess who was voting him in a way I would expect a town in his position to do, he was more interested in moving the votes off himself than thinking about which votes he COULD move off himself (because he presumably won't be able to convince a wolf to move, they will move if it benefits themselves).
he has a decent amount of posts and seems reasonably engaged though, could just be a bad read on my part and I am very iffy about it overall.
Actually, even just writing that out and re-checking his posts, I don't feel like it is especially true anyway, he looks fine and I don't mind his stuff with pizza especially.
Might look into riedequat to see if that is fruitful
Hey Stork, you going to vote? I'd like to know if I'm going to die before I go to sleep.
Who would you like me to vote?
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 09:44
what?
I don't understand how it is a "lolstork"
I find the below posts funny.
I think al sips is pretty wolfy.
I read his post in this page with the vote in it and it felt weird.
:thumb:
Didn't realise it was his first post, think my point still stands though.
I generally find it funny that players who didn't play with me before think I'm weird.
I find the below posts funny.
I generally find it funny that players who didn't play with me before think I'm weird.
ok.
are you caught up?
do you have anything to say on the preceding ~300 posts?
Who would you like me to vote?
Well, purely from a self-pres standpoint I would appreciate Choxorn, and even if they weren't next in line to be lynched they are still a decent candidate, their post defending me from atheotes feels like it could have been a mafia defending a town to try and pocket me. The excessively large conspiracies he generated from just his posting so far is not a level of confidence I would expect from town, who at that stage I would expect to be more concerned with finding one mafia rather than trying to bring the whole lot down in one go.
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 09:53
ok.
are you caught up?
do you have anything to say on the preceding ~300 posts?
I've isoed everyone, and can't make my mind.
If I were mafia, I'd leave town DP to the endgame. I think DP might still be town, though. His wagon is probably mostly town, there might be a single scum there.
Don't like GH, but I never like him. Same with Monty.
Don't like Pizza, Quat, Chox.
I've isoed everyone, and can't make my mind.
If I were mafia, I'd leave town DP to the endgame. I think DP might still be town, though. His wagon is probably mostly town, there might be a single scum there.
Don't like GH, but I never like him. Same with Monty.
Don't like Pizza, Quat, Chox.
I like this post in general, tackles personal biases and manages to theorise about mafia actions without diving too deep into WIFOM.
Vote: Riedquat
Let's go with this for now then
May change if more people post before eod.
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 10:20
Bad Stork, voting off wagons. Take responsibility, man.
I like this post in general, tackles personal biases and manages to theorise about mafia actions without diving too deep into WIFOM.
You know what, I think DP needs to be resolved today. Is there a way to confirm you without lynching you?
Vote: Dp101
Bad Stork, voting off wagons. Take responsibility, man.
You know what, I think DP needs to be resolved today. Is there a way to confirm you without lynching you?
Vote: Dp101
I think dp is a villager, so nah, i don't really want to vote him very much.
with mine, yours, dp and choxs vote, quat is at 4, which is for sure a viable counter
the more you know
Is there a way to confirm you without lynching you?
What kind of a question is that? Are you asking for an innocent child claim or something?
Al Sipsclar
11-30-2016, 10:28
What kind of a question is that? Are you asking for an innocent child claim or something?
Any claim would be good.
I'll follow Stork. Vote: Riedquat
GN
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 10:28
I've isoed everyone, and can't make my mind.
If I were mafia, I'd leave town DP to the endgame. I think DP might still be town, though. His wagon is probably mostly town, there might be a single scum there.
Don't like GH, but I never like him. Same with Monty.
Don't like Pizza, Quat, Chox.
No. Vig this guy.
Any claim would be good.
I'll follow Stork. Vote: Riedquat
GN
Vote: Riedquat and claim Vanilla.
Unvote; Vote: Choxorn because OMGUS!
You showed up and voted No Lynch for no good reason to start off with. Did you just think you'd try to get a post in and make it look like you were doing something, but you didn't want to step on anybody's toes so you didn't actually vote for anybody? That's awful scummy of you.
Now you OMGUS me for no good reason.
I think I see what you're doing here. You're trying to skate by and avoid attracting attention, and you think the best way to do that is to not vote for anyone who isn't already examining you closely. Well, you can't skate by me, Riedquat. I'll catch you, my reflexes are too fast.
Lynch this man. He is so scummy I can't believe it.
You showed up and voted No Lynch for no good reason to start off with. Did you just think you'd try to get a post in and make it look like you were doing something, but you didn't want to step on anybody's toes so you didn't actually vote for anybody? That's awful scummy of you.
Now you OMGUS me for no good reason.
I think I see what you're doing here. You're trying to skate by and avoid attracting attention, and you think the best way to do that is to not vote for anyone who isn't already examining you closely. Well, you can't skate by me, Riedquat. I'll catch you, my reflexes are too fast.
Lynch this man. He is so scummy I can't believe it.
This is a funny post that a wolf usually doesn't make unless it is w/w in this spot
i like it
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 10:47
What's with this storm of terrible posts!
Speaking of which, choxorn and GH expending that much wolfy effort just to get dp lynched on day one seems a bit of a stretch, Monty.
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 10:53
Speaking of which, choxorn and GH expending that much wolfy effort just to get dp lynched on day one seems a bit of a stretch, Monty.
But there wasn't much effort, you see? Just a couple of posts and the ball was rolling.
What do you make of it from the perspective of only one of them being scum?
Got a vote count?
quat/dp 4-4
other stuff more or less meaningless probably
actually thats not strictly true
dp has self pressed on quat, quat is currently voting chox, chox is on 3 (i believe with fixed up votes)
mont 2, newyn 2 also i i r c
How many on choxorn?
By the way, haha Visor at having to clean this mess up.
Anyway, I could see either of GH or choxorn as scum. GH is too laser-focused for day one, and choxorn is choxorn. I'm probably voting DP, though. He's my only real ping today, and the late wagons make me feel a little better that anyone's interested in whether or not he's lynched.
vote: Dp101
There. What's the count now?
vote: Dp101
There. What's the count now?
5- dp
4- quat
3- chox
2- monty
1- newyn
~other stuff~
i think
(i am keeping track of it in my head so take it with a grain of salt)
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 11:13
For real? :no:
Unvote: Choxorn
Vote: Riedquat
Why did you change your mind on Newyn, Renata? This will just be hilarious if Zack switches with you...
Do you happen to remember where riedquat and choxorn are voting?
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 11:14
Do you happen to remember where riedquat and choxorn are voting?
Each other.
Do you happen to remember where riedquat and choxorn are voting?
each other
Zack's not going to wake up before day end.
I didn't change my mind on Newyn, but he's not getting lynched today.
Zack's not going to wake up before day end.
I didn't change my mind on Newyn, but he's not getting lynched today.
How confident are you that newyn is a wolf?
How confident are you that dp is a wolf?
Newyn: Barely above random and some of that is paranoia. I looked up scoobs and if that is him he's way too good to skate by on a few shitposts and a lazy bandwagon.
Dp: About the same. I still feel like I'm kicking a puppy, but I did have that "no way" reaction to that one post and that's more than I've had for anyone else.
Newyn: Barely above random and some of that is paranoia. I looked up scoobs and if that is him he's way too good to skate by on a few shitposts and a lazy bandwagon.
Dp: About the same. I still feel like I'm kicking a puppy, but I did have that "no way" reaction to that one post and that's more than I've had for anyone else.
This is pretty interesting, any specific games you read (i have presumably read all of them).
I had a similar feeling, but I think he plays differently here than elsewhere because he can, like falling back into a previous pattern.
Stork, who are you voting? I just read it all, but it's too early in the morning to retain information.
Stork, who are you voting? I just read it all, but it's too early in the morning to retain information.
quat.
The Clue mafia. He was one of the wolves.
Is there any reasoning for Riedquat?
Is there any reasoning for Riedquat?
Doesn't look like a villager to me, just fluffing around without really anything going for him.
also im pretty scared we lynch the top poster and he always flips villager but what do i know, i have only played here once.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 11:29
Well, purely from a self-pres standpoint I would appreciate Choxorn, and even if they weren't next in line to be lynched they are still a decent candidate, their post defending me from atheotes feels like it could have been a mafia defending a town to try and pocket me. The excessively large conspiracies he generated from just his posting so far is not a level of confidence I would expect from town, who at that stage I would expect to be more concerned with finding one mafia rather than trying to bring the whole lot down in one go.
So that why you voted Choxorn. So Choxorn might be trying to pocket you but my theory that Zack was doing it is BS?
Vote: Riedquat and claim Vanilla.
Ok. I dont like the way you have thrown your vote around for self preservation. My vote stays.
if we have a cop, they should check Zack or Choxorn
Yeah, that I get.
Do you play at MU as well?
That was for Stork.
Good morning, atheotes!
Yeah, that I get.
Do you play at MU as well?
yes, account name is the same
i played in the other clue game, not that one.
The one that curbstomped the wolves in two days. I didn't really follow that one, but it was still funny to look at the result.
The one that curbstomped the wolves in two days. I didn't really follow that one, but it was still funny to look at the result.
mhm
(i was town)
I am slightly hesitant on scoobs (newyn) because I feel like he is actually trying (harder) recently as a wolf, which it doesn't seem like he is this game, but maybe he was looking forward to a villager rand that escaped him.
guess it could depend on his teammates too so its probably a wash of a read regardless.
Would think he would show up now regardless though so :shrug:
What about Alette/scarlet aria, as long as we're here?
What about Alette/scarlet aria, as long as we're here?
Thought she was wolfy for a bit, not sure now, low impact isn't necessarily a scum tell for her but lacking follow up on her questions is a little bit.
The look of her push on monty was actually ok for me, though once again needs follow up.
tbh I will probably town read anyone who just sits in the thread and engages with me a little bit over the game (top tip right here).
might be a wait for this game to warm up though.
Good chance update is late sorry bros
Good chance update is late sorry bros
https://i.imgur.com/VX0KOuV.gif
You need to shut up for a bit dp.... your exaggerated transparency is making me a bit nervous :stare:
I'm somewhat tempted to switch. Only dp's seeming lack of interest in anything but self-preservation for most of the day is keeping me on him. He can't act like that for long, and be town.
If someone can keep a tally for eod highly appreciated
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 11:57
He can't act like that for long, and be town.
Why not? And why not on Day 1, of all days? That's one of the best times for tunneling on self-preservation.
vote: Riedquat
I don't know if this is going to stay. Thinking more of advatages and disadvantages of killing either one, as opposed to which might be mafia.
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 12:09
Really, Monty?
Yes.
Thinking more of advatages and disadvantages of killing either one, as opposed to which might be mafia.
Which is the same reasoning behind self-preservation, isn't it? So why the disconnect?
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:10
That was for Stork.
Good morning, atheotes!
Good morning Renata! i am now closer to sleeping time than waking time ~:) its abt 4:30 pm now.
Can you expand on this?
I don't really understand what that means, hasn't town lost a lot of game recently?
Overall this post seems not so good, the "Could be a town picking up on minor things to try and get the game started, or a mafia trying to push a mislynch on a player who historically has been difficult to lynch" seems very self-aware about your meta overall (outside this game), but not self aware about your actual posting this game and doesn't actually say anything substantive.
Do you think your posting warrants his vote (assuming he is a town) or not?
You call everyone possible mafia but don't say anyone is towny ???
Overall it is super super limp.
Hey, Stork, you want to comment on this?
Yes.
Which is the same reasoning behind self-preservation, isn't it? So why the disconnect?
I'm not sure.
Visorslash, if nothing changes right now the lynch is Riedquat. If I flip back to dp101 and no one else moves I think it's tied, but I haven't counted for myself and don't intend to.
What do you want me to comment about it?
I think it mostly still stands but the lions share of his iso after that point is more or less ok (not great but ok)
Side comment: there's no actual way to do an iso on this site, is there?
Side comment: there's no actual way to do an iso on this site, is there?
yes, you go to the subforum gateway ( https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?156-Gameroom ) and click the number of replies, then click the number of replies of the person you want to iso
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:32
Current Tally.
Riedquat - 6 (Choxorn, Stork, Al sips, Dp101, Monty, Renata)
Dp101 - 4 (GH, atheotes, Newyn, Askthepizzaguy)
Montmorency - 2 (El barto, Scarlett Aria)
Al Sipsclar - 1 (Bsmith)
Choxorn - 1 (Riedquat)
Newyn - 1 (Zack)
I hope i got everyone right. We can probably keep a running tally.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:33
What is the case on Riedquat?
See, here's the thing. Dp is if anything even more scummy to me on re-read. I'm aware of confirmation bias, but still. His reads are, as you say, limp; his posting comes off as exceedingly self-conscious in places, etc.
Riedquat's just your garden variety shitposter with the possible exception of that one post feeling a little off with its 'prodding' of the day's main attraction. There's no real read here; there's no there there.
What is the case on Riedquat?
lol
he has 7 posts, read them yourself
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:35
vote: Riedquat
I don't know if this is going to stay. Thinking more of advatages and disadvantages of killing either one, as opposed to which might be mafia.
Why would you do that given your suspicion of Dp101?
What is the case on Riedquat?
See other comments. The one post of his that I highlighted looks like it might have been him taking a poke at a townie Dp who was currently getting grilled, without getting his hands dirty. Basically showing no real willingness to engage with the game.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:38
Bad Stork, voting off wagons. Take responsibility, man.
You know what, I think DP needs to be resolved today. Is there a way to confirm you without lynching you?
Vote: Dp101
Whatever happened to "Dp must be resolved today"?
Any claim would be good.
I'll follow Stork. Vote: Riedquat
GN
Why would you do that given your suspicion of Dp101?
I feel like Dp is going to hang himself sooner or later if he's scum (maybe even if he's town), while posters like Riedquat are as hard to evict as mold in your shower. I'm not sure I'm keeping my vote where it is. It's hard to give up an actual read for potential long-term considerations and the repercussions of being wrong.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:42
lol
he has 7 posts, read them yourself
Duh...I did not find anything. Hence the qn.
I did not qn your vote because you already stated you dont want to lynch the top poster.
Monty is also voting to save Dp.
Neither bandwagon looks all that clean to me. Watch them be town/town.
The more Renata talks, the more I get the feeling I should follow through with my initial read of Renata scum.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:48
I feel like Dp is going to hang himself sooner or later if he's scum (maybe even if he's town), while posters like Riedquat are as hard to evict as mold in your shower. I'm not sure I'm keeping my vote where it is. It's hard to give up an actual read for potential long-term considerations and the repercussions of being wrong.
I think i have played only one game with DP. he was universally town read. Pocketed by the scum and voted with them the whole game. He had the intent of "doing the right thing" throughout the game even when he was wrong about the conclusions he came to.
Here he is just trying to get out of the lynch and doesnt care who gets lynched in his stead.
I can understand people defending him yesterday. But I am very suspicious of anyone who is defending him now.
I think i have played only one game with DP. he was universally town read. Pocketed by the scum and voted with them the whole game. He had the intent of "doing the right thing" throughout the game even when he was wrong about the conclusions he came to.
Here he is just trying to get out of the lynch and doesnt care who gets lynched in his stead.
I can understand people defending him yesterday. But I am very suspicious of anyone who is defending him now.
Well, it's tied now. Unless someone else switches it's up to chance.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:52
I guess we have abt 9 mins to see who breaks the tie.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 12:53
Current Tally.
Riedquat - 5 (Choxorn, Stork, Al sips, Dp101, Monty)
Dp101 - 5 (GH, atheotes, Newyn, Askthepizzaguy, Renata)
Montmorency - 2 (El barto, Scarlett Aria)
Al Sipsclar - 1 (Bsmith)
Choxorn - 1 (Riedquat)
Newyn - 1 (Zack)
Either way, Al Sips needs to die.
newyn is here and mentioned nothing about the wagons which is riveting
GeneralHankerchief
11-30-2016, 12:56
Morning all.
I power-read the past four pages in 10 minutes, can sort of see the case on Riedquat but not budging on DP.
GeneralHankerchief
11-30-2016, 12:59
Also if Renata can pull off this level of conversation with Stork if they're m/m after five years out of the game then she deserves a damn medal. Going to safely rule that one out.
Montmorency
11-30-2016, 13:02
I think i have played only one game with DP. he was universally town read. Pocketed by the scum and voted with them the whole game. He had the intent of "doing the right thing" throughout the game even when he was wrong about the conclusions he came to.
Here he is just trying to get out of the lynch and doesnt care who gets lynched in his stead.
You noticed a difference in performance, yet you don't think this is explained by the fact that he has been the lead wagon for most of the day and in the other game he was never seriously at risk of the lynch, at any time?
You don't realize that these vastly different circumstances can produce a difference in reaction?
Especially given that this is D1? And that otherwise he has behaved just as we would expect from town DP?
As I said: come off it.
atheotes
11-30-2016, 13:34
You noticed a difference in performance, yet you don't think this is explained by the fact that he has been the lead wagon for most of the day and in the other game he was never seriously at risk of the lynch, at any time?
You don't realize that these vastly different circumstances can produce a difference in reaction?
Especially given that this is D1? And that otherwise he has behaved just as we would expect from town DP?
As I said: come off it.
I dont think these "changes in circumstance" explain his behavior.
Atleast i am voting my strongest scum read...
atheotes
11-30-2016, 13:35
Whats the rule on talking during the night?
atheotes
11-30-2016, 13:37
Oops.. it is not in the OP. but the next post says no talking in the night.
Apologies.
Gonna give it a pass but please don't talk at night.
Gonna manually tally the votes just to make sure, then gonna post the update, bear with me.
monty: el barto, scarlett
al sips: bsmith
dp101: GH, atheotes,newyn, atpg, renata
choxorn: riedquat
newyn: zack
riedquat: choxorn, stork, al sips, dp101, monty
dp101 was lynched (tied lynch between ried and dp101 resolved by rng)
he was town
22 hours for night orders
Riedquat
11-30-2016, 16:12
:stare::stare::stare:
Quat is pissed!
Explicit N1 orders: Kill choxorn, Stork, Al sips and monty with a single bullet!
Thank you!
GeneralHankerchief
12-01-2016, 04:54
Moderator note: Per the host's request, I have restored the above post to its original contents.
Please obviously keep the "no posting at night" rules in mind.
GH
reminder to not post at night.
also don't edit
etc
scarlett aria was killed, they were town.
48 hours for day.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20161203T22&p0=47&font=cursive
Alive: 13/15
1. Renata
2. Stork
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. BSmith
6. El Barto
7. Montmorency
8. GeneralHankerchief
9. Al Sipsclar
10. Zack
11. Choxorn
12. Newyn
13. Atheotes
14. Riedquat
Dead: 2/15
5. Dp101, Town, lynched D1.
15. Scarlett Aria, Town, killed N1.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 13:11
Zack, any comments on yesterday's lynch process?
GH, any comments on yesterday's lynch?
Pizza, any comments? :tomato:
Riedquat is too confident again.
blah, i guess
lynching dp sucked pretty bad t b h
dunno why alette gets killed she is reasonable lynch bait i would think
will reread her i guess, though that stuff is all wifom
gotta think quat is a wolf making that last post for ??? no reason i think
the two people i signed up to play with aren't here anymore :sob:
The more Renata talks, the more I get the feeling I should follow through with my initial read of Renata scum.
Newyn doesn't believe this. I've just switched back to Dp at this point and he's on Dp himself. If he believed this, he'd have switched to Riedquat on the spot.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 13:37
the two people i signed up to play with aren't here anymore :sob:
Not at all, but he is presenting a lot of bravado, and that's usually a scum-tell for him. Of course, he might have become overall more confident after his performance in the previous games.
Newyn doesn't believe this. I've just switched back to Dp at this point and he's on Dp himself. If he believed this, he'd have switched to Riedquat on the spot.
Sounds like the Pizza School of Analysis.
the two people i signed up to play with aren't here anymore :sob:
Well, why'd you murder Alette, then?
Kidding; I think you and Monty look pretty decent for being around at end of day pushing the opponent to a wagon on a townie. How decent depends on how hard you pushed, I guess, which I don't entirely remember.
I think atheotes looks good even though he was wrong. Coming up with the thing on Al Sipsclar in the middle of that seems townie-ish, maybe.
Reads other than Riedquat?
Sounds like the Pizza School of Analysis.
I'll take that as a compliment.
agree about newyns popin
agree al sips can be a wolf though he is utr enough that i don't have a lot of confidence either way
theres some decent world building if quat is a wolf, less easy if he isn't
don't think you letting it go to a flip is that bad even if he is a wolf but its pretty bad
idk
i think gh is wolfier for having edited that post too
#gross reads
don't think you letting it go to a flip is that bad even if he is a wolf but its pretty bad
idk
I don't understand that line.
GeneralHankerchief
12-01-2016, 13:58
I want to talk about this post:
I've isoed everyone, and can't make my mind.
If I were mafia, I'd leave town DP to the endgame. I think DP might still be town, though. His wagon is probably mostly town, there might be a single scum there.
Don't like GH, but I never like him. Same with Monty.
Don't like Pizza, Quat, Chox.
This post is full of contradictions and very little commitments.
He says he's ISO'd everyone but can't make up his mind, and yet lists four or five suspects, a couple of whom have votes and none of whom are DP.
He says he doesn't like me but he never likes me. This would ordinarily be fine save for the fact that my playstyle this game has been noticeably different than in other recent games and other people have commented on it. I don't think this reasoning holds up under scrutiny.
He eventually waffles and votes DP because he says he wants a resolution, but then he says he supports calls for claims and abandons ship to the Riedquat wagon (Riedquat being still unresolved).
I don't understand that line.
i mean, you could have saved dp and didn't, against ried who:
if wolf - you look bad but not that bad
if villa - you look ok but a little worse
right?
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 14:05
I don't understand that line.
Yeah, um, Stork, could you rephrase that entire post?
I agree with GH.
i mean, you could have saved dp and didn't, against ried who:
if wolf - you look bad but not that bad
if villa - you look ok but a little worse
right?
I still don't entirely get it, but I'm not going to argue.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 14:15
GH, can you give a post mortem on your choice of lynch?
GeneralHankerchief
12-01-2016, 14:20
GH, can you give a post mortem on your choice of lynch?
I stand by my reasoning and my vote. He looked scummy; he just happened to be innocent.
It happens sometimes. Not going to get too broken up about it.
i mean, you could have saved the top poster, who i said was likely a villager
but instead you let it go to a flip with ried, who you agree is wolfy at eod
looks kinda bad if ried a wolf right?
i think it isn't damning in that case ok?
GeneralHankerchief
12-01-2016, 14:24
i mean, you could have saved the top poster, who i said was likely a villager
but instead you let it go to a flip with ried, who you agree is wolfy at eod
looks kinda bad if ried a wolf right?
i think it isn't damning in that case ok?
Who was this directed at?
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 14:26
I stand by my reasoning and my vote. He looked scummy; he just happened to be innocent.
It happens sometimes. Not going to get too broken up about it.
Polished. I acknowledge it.
Stork, could you specifically explain your sentence on "world-building"?
i mean, you could have saved the top poster, who i said was likely a villager
but instead you let it go to a flip with ried, who you agree is wolfy at eod
looks kinda bad if ried a wolf right?
i think it isn't damning in that case ok?
Yeah, I get that part; it's the v/v part I don't get. Obviously I look bad if Riedquat is wolf, because I could have buried him and didn't.
Who was this directed at?
Me.
Scarlett had a vote on Monty at end of day (for seeming off/less willing to say things) than she remembered. I don't see anything resembling a breadcrumb of a power role, much less a n0 peek or anything like that. It's possible they killed her on the chance of being a n0 peek of Pizza's, but why not just kill Pizza then? All else being equal I'm going to say there's nothing to learn here, and it was just going after a townie who might have been a little more quiet than expected/possible power role.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 14:50
Well, there is Pizza spouting off that Scarlett was his #1 lock townie. And BSmith who guessed it?
Right.
I just looked at Al Sipsclar again. I don't see him being wolf with Riedquat. I think wolf with choxorn is possible. Choxorn was getting noise about the time Al Sips made his two votes, for one of the non-choxorn options and then for the other, with no reasoning in between.
I should look at choxorn.
Newyn could be wolf with anyone.
Polished. I acknowledge it.
Stork, could you specifically explain your sentence on "world-building"?
i mean: it went to a flip, so people around at eod had the opportunity to impact on his wagons in ways that would be telling if he is a wolf
Who was this directed at?
the last person who asked me a question i guess
probably renata
Yeah, I get that part; it's the v/v part I don't get. Obviously I look bad if Riedquat is wolf, because I could have buried him and didn't.
yeah, but i think dp is playing better (and maybe a better player) than reid, so maybe you would eek out equity that way
though he claimed vanilla so that also impacts on it
meh
Why were people voting choxorn yesterday? I don't see anything particularly alarming.
yeah, but i think dp is playing better (and maybe a better player) than reid, so maybe you would eek out equity that way
That was actually my thinking for the period where I was voting Riedquat.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 15:09
Why were people voting choxorn yesterday? I don't see anything particularly alarming.
On my account.
That was actually my thinking for the period where I was voting Riedquat.
lynching people who are trying always seems worse than those that aren't
Crosspost. That was for monty.
lynching people who are trying always seems worse than those that aren't
I intend to apologize once I'm dead.
Riedquat
12-01-2016, 15:22
I'm looking at you monty! I'm to damned confident because I'm plain town! Was the past game any confident? No. Was confident as bender just after fabricating a credible lie freeing myself of any pressure. I'm still pissed! :stare:
You were the one with the possible scenario with choxorn and, was it GH? being scum partners, you were so convinced that then switched to me without any reasoning... Or it was simply because I also made a lazy omgus vote? Or because choxorn wagon started to gain popularity?
Something like this right now:
Town
Renata
Montmorency
Stork
GeneralHankerchief
Atheotes
BSmith
Zack
Wytch/Pizza
El Barto
Choxorn -- intruiging possibility of inducing w/w flinch in Al Sips when he got votes
Riedquat
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
Mafia
I'm looking at you monty! I'm to damned confident because I'm plain town! Was the past game any confident? No. Was confident as bender just after fabricating a credible lie freeing myself of any pressure. I'm still pissed! :stare:
You were the one with the possible scenario with choxorn and, was it GH? being scum partners, you were so convinced that then switched to me without any reasoning... Or it was simply because I also made a lazy omgus vote? Or because choxorn wagon started to gain popularity?
Why does a scum Monty stick around for hours trying to get me not to vote Dp?
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 15:30
I proposed that at least one of Choxorn and GH were scum, if Choxorn then with hope of starting a DP wagon from whic he could quickly disassociate, if GH then taking a firm stand to put that wagon at the forefront for the day.
I voted Riedquat because Stork offered him as an alternative to Choxorn and DP101.
Because DP was townie enough to save, and because DP was townie enough for scum to want to get rid of.
Ok, then Riedquat's taunt about the choxorn wagon getting popular makes no sense.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 15:35
To clarify again for people who missed the recent games here, DP has been pretty much the towniest SOB to enter these forums for a number of years.
Townier than Ishmael, if that means anything to you.
Riedquat
12-01-2016, 15:36
Why does a scum Monty stick around for hours trying to get me not to vote Dp?
Because can get you to vote another townie, that's why! And curiously enough your list of town/scum has the people who lynched a townie as possible townies... one of them must be scum you know, the rest for sure were in my wagon!
No, I don't remember Ishmael.
Because can get you to vote another townie, that's why! And curiously enough your list of town/scum has the people who lynched a townie as possible townies... one of them must be scum you know, the rest for sure were in my wagon!
Right. He wants to push me to save dp over you, if he's scum? Even I almost lynched you for the reason that saving you over him, if both were town, was such a ludicrous idea.
Newyn's my candidate for scum on the dp wagon.
Riedquat
12-01-2016, 15:48
Ok, then Riedquat's taunt about the choxorn wagon getting popular makes no sense.
At the moment I called it night, Dp had 5 votes on him and chox had 3, I only saw the evolution of the voting in the night, all together and that is the impression it caused, you were here you should know!
Riedquat
12-01-2016, 15:55
Right. He wants to push me to save dp over you, if he's scum? Even I almost lynched you for the reason that saving you over him, if both were town, was such a ludicrous idea.
Newyn's my candidate for scum on the dp wagon.
Not calling him nor you scum, I'm freaking angry because your decisions yesterday. mostly the ones involving my neck! ;)
The case on newyn was he posting a list where you were possible scum early in the day and then, more than 100 posts later he came and voted for dp with his own admittance he wasn't paying any attention...
why did you post at night quat?
At the moment I called it night, Dp had 5 votes on him and chox had 3, I only saw the evolution of the voting in the night, all together and that is the impression it caused, you were here you should know!
But you were just saying that Monty had the choxorn/GH scumbuddies read. Now all of a sudden he wants to save choxorn and that's why he voted you?
Not calling him nor you scum, I'm freaking angry because your decisions yesterday. mostly the ones involving my neck! ;)
You should be grateful. I wound up saving your ass over dp, me and the RNG. I'm regretting it.
The case on newyn was he posting a list where you were possible scum early in the day and then, more than 100 posts later he came and voted for dp with his own admittance he wasn't paying any attention...
In my case, more on the dp vote alone, as I never took the first post very seriously. Since then he's managed to pop into the tail end of the drama with you and dp's wagons with a flat-out lie that he's finding me scummy again, since if that was one iota true, he would have jumped on your ass instead of dp's in a hot second.
atheotes
12-01-2016, 16:11
Why does a scum Monty stick around for hours trying to get me not to vote Dp?
Well, scum monty would know he is town. and it was an easy defense. So he could get cred for trying to save a townie.
atheotes
12-01-2016, 16:12
I proposed that at least one of Choxorn and GH were scum, if Choxorn then with hope of starting a DP wagon from whic he could quickly disassociate, if GH then taking a firm stand to put that wagon at the forefront for the day.
I voted Riedquat because Stork offered him as an alternative to Choxorn and DP101.
Because DP was townie enough to save, and because DP was townie enough for scum to want to get rid of.
So you believe that scum got rid of Dp. I guess you will be going after the people on that wagon.
Well, scum monty would know he is town. and it was an easy defense. So he could get cred for trying to save a townie.
Just like he has with me? Well maybe. For now I'm going with it.
atheotes
12-01-2016, 16:15
Alette is an intersting choice for kill. As long as she was not a PR, I am willing to bet the majority of scum dont have experience playing with her.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 16:18
So you believe that scum got rid of Dp. I guess you will be going after the people on that wagon.
I already gave my suspicions. I thought you were bizarrely wrong, but I can't hold you as scum for that alone. As Renata also pointed out, there are limits to the effort scum would put into lynching DP, so it would be a stretch to put you down as scum with both Choxorn and GH. If both are town, it looks much worse for you however.
Newyn and Pizza were the others on the wagon. Newyn needs to speak for himself now to clear up his feelings at the time, and I'm sure Pizza is going to make a splash one way or another soon.
atheotes
12-01-2016, 16:20
You should be grateful. I wound up saving your ass over dp, me and the RNG. I'm regretting it.
In my case, more on the dp vote alone, as I never took the first post very seriously. Since then he's managed to pop into the tail end of the drama with you and dp's wagons with a flat-out lie that he's finding me scummy again, since if that was one iota true, he would have jumped on your ass instead of dp's in a hot second.
I dont think everyone's big on not voting with their scum reads, assuming that is what you meant. That too on D1 when reads are pretty weak.
For the record, i did not like your flip flop yesterday. I am moving you to the wolfy tier.
atheotes
12-01-2016, 16:24
I already gave my suspicions. I thought you were bizarrely wrong, but I can't hold you as scum for that alone. As Renata also pointed out, there are limits to the effort scum would put into lynching DP, so it would be a stretch to put you down as scum with both Choxorn and GH. If both are town, it looks much worse for you however.
Newyn and Pizza were the others on the wagon. Newyn needs to speak for himself now to clear up his feelings at the time, and I'm sure Pizza is going to make a splash one way or another soon.
Looks like you are convinced that Choxorn and GH are scum...
What your take on Renata?
I dont think everyone's big on not voting with their scum reads, assuming that is what you meant. That too on D1 when reads are pretty weak.
For the record, i did not like your flip flop yesterday. I am moving you to the wolfy tier.
That's a shame.
As for Newyn, it's that he was right there, in the moment. He commented immediately after my switch back to dp, as the very next post, and he said nothing about either wagon. I look scummy, yet he does nothing about it, no vote on Riedquat, not even any comment or anything?
I've said it already, but I think he's lying about finding me scummy there. I think he's just stirring the pot.
I already gave my suspicions. I thought you were bizarrely wrong, but I can't hold you as scum for that alone. As Renata also pointed out, there are limits to the effort scum would put into lynching DP, so it would be a stretch to put you down as scum with both Choxorn and GH. If both are town, it looks much worse for you however.
I don't remember pointing out any such thing.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 16:30
Looks like you are convinced that Choxorn and GH are scum...
What your take on Renata?
At least one, as I said. Proceeding with the expectation that both are scum obviously prevents us from reading the rest of the game and players in a serious way.
Renata still with Zack:OK by me. I will watch how they diverge as the game progresses.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 16:32
I don't remember pointing out any such thing.
Post 342 and response 344.
Oh that. Yeah, I still believe that.
I don't think it says anything about the rest of the wagon: me, Atheotes, Newyn.
Riedquat
12-01-2016, 16:35
why did you post at night quat?
Missed last line from second set of rules.... missed the second set of rules altogether to be honest. Apart of that was my very way to say HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Missed last line from second set of rules.... missed the second set of rules altogether to be honest. Apart of that was my very way to say HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
so you read the reveal but you didn't read the post directly before it?
At least one, as I said.
Ok, if at least one of GH/choxorn are scum, how much credence do you give to my theory that Al Sipsclar voted dp and Riedquat in quick succession in an attempt to find the better wagon to outweigh choxorn's? Are choxorn and Al Sips w/w?
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 16:55
Choxorn's wagon didn't really exist as such: it was Riedquat lolcatting (?), me pushing, and DP101 taking it up opportunistically.
It never got traction beyond that. I'll give you that Sips came up with the response sooner after that than I remembered, and after Stork called him scummy.
His reads post was awful in that it didn't go beyond shading almost everyone involved in the DP wagon and counterwagons. The only people involved in the major wagons from yesterday (at that point) whom he doesn't mention are Newyn and Atheotes.
It could be m/m with Choxorn from the perspective of quickly discouraging that wagon, or GH distancing (given they were scum in the last game). But again, there wasn't much of a Choxorn wagon and there wasn't much to gain from mentioning GH.
Riedquat
12-01-2016, 17:03
so you read the reveal but you didn't read the post directly before it?
Not till now... :embarassed:
And I'm sorry but I do wonder, yours is just curiosity about my idiocy or there is something else there?
As for Newyn, it's that he was right there, in the moment. He commented immediately after my switch back to dp, as the very next post, and he said nothing about either wagon. I look scummy, yet he does nothing about it, no vote on Riedquat, not even any comment or anything?
vote: Newyn based on this reasoning. I could also be persuaded to vote for Reid and Al.
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 17:07
Page 12 events:
AlS switches onto DP. Stork notes Riedquat is good alternative wagon with some switches. AlS switches onto Riedquat. DP101 joins. Choxorn rants against Riedquat and urges his lynch.
It's a very neat short sequence if Choxorn, GH, and Al Sipsclar are scum and want to finalize their positions relative to each other for the day (Al Sipsclar on Quat Choxorn OMGUS Quat, GH on DP101), but that's not a smart approach.
If anything, this weakens the case for relationships between those three and makes Stork look a bit off.
PSA: I am traveling for work again next week. I leave on Saturday morning for Manila which will result in 24+ hours of travel. Based on the schedule of this game that *should* be mostly over the next night, but my posting is going to be somewhat less reliable over the next week or so. I’ll be returning to the States on the 10th.
Askthepizzaguy
12-01-2016, 18:50
I'm reading the game, just uncharacteristically low energy today.
Askthepizzaguy
12-01-2016, 18:55
I haven't seen anything that makes me push any of my town reads away from being town.
On the other hand, I don't have a strong suspect at the moment. Renata's case on Newyn seems fine.
I'll add pressure to Al Sipsclar until I can come up with a reason not to, or I find something stronger.
Vote: Al Sipsclar
Montmorency
12-01-2016, 20:04
Vote: Al Sipsclar
The lynch yesterday was awful wtf is wrong with you people
GeneralHankerchief
12-01-2016, 20:28
The lynch yesterday was awful wtf is wrong with you people
This kind of sentiment really annoys me.
Hindsight isn't worth a damn, speak up more forcefully if you hate something so much.
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