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Post caps are all well and good, but they're too crude when most people by inclination or conditioning are going to cluster around the high end of the distribution. A post cap just can't reproduce what we have in this thread preceding my post, <30 posts in 12 hours (somehow less active than CFC!). Also, light games are all 13 players IIRC. What about games with triple that number? And the cap comes down during EOD anyway, though I suppose a strict cap probably hasn't been tried (too unpopular?).
We need a sophisticated set of incentives, yet falling short of an actual posting-oriented game mechanic because that's an unwelcome distortion against the rest of the design. Otherwise, establish a consensus social context, like the one governing speaking volume in libraries. Catch-22: how will players trust a high-player space enough to sign up before a high-player game has demonstrated a manageable rate of activity?
Back to the game: Are insaner, Merlin, Zack, and empoof seriously all consensus town-leans now? Talk about first-mover advantage. I can't say it's terrible, but meh. It's not good. Merlin and insaner can have D1 towncred though.
(The careful observer notes that town-leans are all town-leans because they have each other town-leaning each other, which means either an unbreakable town core or our doom as Mafia have seized narrative control.)
I think Cuth posted a Cuth kind of analysis post from my limited experience with him, but usually its been done in the context of a flow of a bunch of other posts trying to explain/defend himself. IIRC.
Wait, are you offering wrong reads for others to push their agendas on? Are you third party? Oh shit, is this a cult game?
I feel ya bud!
Unironically (by all appearances) ranking yourself below another player is sketchy. Are you 3P?
I kind of agree, actually. On the other hand, prior to his posting more here this may be nothing more than a reproduction of his uneasily subdued play in the CFC game just now, where he was lynched D1. In which case I should defend Logic against being lynchbaited.
It's possible his playstyle may also have just shifted, since I've been in only a couple of games with him since 2017.
Vote: Barto
You saying stuff like this makes me think you're either scum who's concerned with hunting for 3ps, or a 3p yourself.
Also, why do you vote Bart after not mentioning him amywhere else in your post?
Unvote. Vote: Montmorency
I disagree on Zack. He's just playing around. His push ob Barto wasn't based on a real read imho
Insaner posting twice as much as the rest of game has been my only impression
I guess this got explained meanwhile.
I reread Monty's wall thrice and the only thing, which pings me is the weird remark on GH.
I hope this got expanded.
Empoof's reads make me sleepy. I guess I need to cup of damn good coffee.
Tonal meme read: Zelda saying "thrice" instead of "three times" is towny
I disagree on Zack. He's just playing around. His push ob Barto wasn't based on a real read imho
Insaner posting twice as much as the rest of game has been my only impression.
excuse me sir?
https://i.imgur.com/FjuixVd.gif
I have EIGHT MORE POSTS than Insaner, and my push was more real than a Madrid-based soccer club.
:furious3:
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan. Other than that, It's been a nice game so far. I don't even feel like throwing my vote around and killing someone.
Actually, Empoof has been the loudest voice so far and I like him for that. I read some mashes on MU and he's usually loud trying to powertown or powerwolf. Finding the difference might be hard but this has felt like a honest effort so far.
Townreads so far:
Empoof
Merlin
Insaner
Egix
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus. Barto's posts are trashier with more fluff, but I think that him going against the thread might be a good look.
Cuth made a long post I skipped, then returned to it and read the last sentence:
I think Empoof would take advantage of the open gamestate more as a wolf, have the feeling that his holding back and being tentative is somewhat villagery.
I'm not a big fan of the wording here. I agree with the read, tho.
The rest is of players consists the bottom pile. I guess monty and gh stand out but not in a good way. GH might be too much of a MU champs meta read, but Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.
Vote: Montomercy
excuse me sir?
https://i.imgur.com/FjuixVd.gif
I have EIGHT MORE POSTS than Insaner, and my push was more real than a Madrid-based soccer club.
:furious3:
I think I found you meanwhile :bounce:
I just prefer to be wary of universally townread players, who also happen to be way better players than me.
excuse me sir?
https://i.imgur.com/FjuixVd.gif
I have EIGHT MORE POSTS than Insaner, and my push was more real than a Madrid-based soccer club.
:furious3:
he's read our posts on MU for years, but has he read THIS THREAD?
:beatnik2:
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan.
I do agree, it feels like he is posting just to post. Not really seeing any gamesolving from him. Not making much sense either.
:deal:
I feel really quiet this game, maybe I got a little loud when I was pushing back on monty's thing.
But idk, I have been known to have a huge, bulging personality.
Season 1 of American vandal was great, I wish I could start watching season 2 but now that my netflix trial is over I'm forced to use my roommates account on the xbox in the living room. So I have to WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW :bigcry:
Also I've been waiting for the perfect post for that :deal2: emote so I'm super glad it's out there now. Probably could've used it in that "loud" post but forgot.
he's read our posts on MU for years, but has he read THIS THREAD?
:beatnik2:
I tried to play anonymously, but Insaner spoiled my identity meanwhile. Also, I haven't read a game of yours till the last champs and I remember you waiting there to get killed by mafia, essentially. Here, it's kind of same, actually. Maybe I should look harder at people dealing out free Zack townreads.
i find it a bit curious you read monywall twice but decided to not read cuth's
I tried to play anonymously, but Insaner spoiled my identity meanwhile. Also, I haven't read a game of yours till the last champs and I remember you waiting there to get killed by mafia, essentially. Here, it's kind of same, actually. Maybe I should look harder at people dealing out free Zack townreads.
With all due respect, what the fuck are you talking about?
I feel like I'm not using my vote effectively and should vote like GH or something.
I'm waiting until around 2 hours before EoD to ask Zack for his barto read update, to which I'm expecting a massive CFD filled with gifs and GH trying to blend in and then we ultimately turn on him.
Idunno if I'm supposed to make this post :juggle2: but I'm going to sleep anyways so future me can deal with it.
Hi Capage, welcome to the game glad to have you around ~:smoking:
i find it a bit curious you read monywall twice but decided to not read cuth's
Why would you ever read your partners posts, you already know their alignment
I was posting a lot in both games I played, and in the first game I rekt wolves while the team tried to kill me twice. Your characterization of my play makes no sense
We've also played together in a game on CFC, so
1) I already knew you were Capage
2) I'm pretty sure that game was before champs so ??? at "haven't read a game of yours until champs last season"
I was also universally townread in both of those champs games, was town, and you somehow are suspicious of me being widely townread here so... again your post doesn't make any sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqjWidsMhvM
i find it a bit curious you read monywall twice but decided to not read cuth's
Formatting. Or I read it but felt like there's not really anything too spicy. Monty I reread because Empoof's super early reads caught my attention. Easy as that, good lad.
With all due respect, what the fuck are you talking about?
I think you might not remember me from MU. I posted pink as wolf in this year's champs.
I feel like I'm not using my vote effectively and should vote like GH or something.
I'm waiting until around 2 hours before EoD to ask Zack for his barto read update, to which I'm expecting a massive CFD filled with gifs and GH trying to blend in and then we ultimately turn on him.
Idunno if I'm supposed to make this post :juggle2: but I'm going to sleep anyways so future me can deal with it.
Hi Capage, welcome to the game glad to have you around ~:smoking:
Hey, poof! We haven't played together in a while. I'm intrigued by your light competitive plans btw
i feel gh is perfecrly rand, dont really ger why he is everyone favourite secret wolfread
he hasnt posted much which is pretty nai for him esp d1
and his posts were w/e
I am too tired and don t have time to check if you answe makes sense, p, but thanks for it anyway
can you explain your gh read more? why he dorsnt stand out in a good way? cause like if it s just fause you expect more from him that d apply for boh alognments
We've also played together in a game on CFC, so
1) I already knew you were Capage
2) I'm pretty sure that game was before champs so ??? at "haven't read a game of yours until champs last season"
2) I meant to write since not till. We played and mashed together few times on MU 2019 too.
Regarding your playstyle I tried to hint at two things
a)You're not that obvious of a read. You're top tier player. People could have waited a page or something. I think that your first really AI post is on page 7 or 8 (it's a block) and It makes you look fairly good. Post before that sometimes feel like you're just keeping yourself occupied posting in this thread.
b)people putting you in their town piles might be lazy wolves.
I suppose this is likely one of those times when people mistakenly think I'm "angry" and/or "egotistical" and/or "sir this is a wendy's"
when in fact I'm just very confused and being unnecessarily melodramatic and/or theatrical and/or "sir this is a 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread"
:turtle:
2) I meant to write since not till. We played and mashed together few times on MU 2019 too.
Regarding your playstyle I tried to hint at two things
a)You're not that obvious of a read. You're top tier player. People could have waited a page or something. I think that your first really AI post is on page 7 or 8 (it's a block) and It makes you look fairly good. Post before that sometimes feel like you're just keeping yourself occupied posting in this thread.
b)people putting you in their town piles might be lazy wolves.
ah, fair enough
:oops:
i feel gh is perfecrly rand, dont really ger why he is everyone favourite secret wolfread
he hasnt posted much which is pretty nai for him esp d1
and his posts were w/e
I'd tell you .... but then i would have to kill you.
I am too tired and don t have time to check if you answe makes sense, p, but thanks for it anyway
can you explain your gh read more? why he dorsnt stand out in a good way? cause like if it s just fause you expect more from him that d apply for boh alognments
I guess you're right. He's been low effort and because it's GH I guess the activity level isn't that important but his reads are skimmed and that's triggering me.
Hey, poof! We haven't played together in a while. I'm intrigued by your light competitive plans btw
Yeah me too, I've been planning on making a discussion/interest post since the start of the week and it's friday now. It'll get linked a lot of places. I'm excited about it.
Definitely been a minute. I'm digging this game so far but feel like mafia reads are far and few between. Have a feeling tomorrow will be a little explosive activity wise for a couple players so should be :pop2:
I'd tell you .... but then i would have to kill you.
if ladd and GH are both wolves I'm a day 1 god btw.
If they're both town then I'll probably vote the correct wolf day 1 and still be a god ~:smoking:
Is Total War: Generic Fantasy an upcoming video game?
I'd tell you .... but then i would have to kill you.
not sure what you mran but fwiw I read your read on him early on
just feels sometging I'd not be able to see/understand
also just in case gh flips wolf-I am not defending him, I just think thr anpunt of people having him as a spicy/secret wolfread is questionable given what hr posted so far
I guess you're right. He's been low effort and because it's GH I guess the activity level isn't that important but his reads are skimmed and that's triggering me.
skimmed?
what do you mean?
Have a feeling tomorrow will be a little explosive activity wise for a couple players so should be :pop2:
I have similar feels, but unfortunately it's gonna be the opposite of me. once I log off tonight my posting will be pretty sparse until sometime Monday afternoon.
if ladd and GH are both wolves I'm a day 1 god btw.
If they're both town then I'll probably vote the correct wolf day 1 and still be a god ~:smoking:
any thoughts on choxorn / my read on him, bronana?
not sure what you mran but fwiw I read your read on him early on
just feels sometging I'd not be able to see/understand
also just in case gh flips wolf-I am not defending him, I just think thr anpunt of people having him as a spicy/secret wolfread is questionable given what hr posted so far
It's an old saying/trope (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdTellYouButThenIdHaveToKillYou).
I mostly just thought his page 1 was kinda half-assed, and my quasi-secret tell on him may have applied. And there hasn't been much else suspicious to go on. :shrug:
I agree with you that his low activity level does not mean anything wrt his alignment
if gh flips wolf I am going to suspect you with extreme prejudice purely because of that terrible last line
I have similar feels, but unfortunately it's gonna be the opposite of me. once I log off tonight my posting will be pretty sparse until sometime Monday afternoon.
any thoughts on choxorn / my read on him, bronana?
I saw you vote choxorn, I don't disapprove. I don't really have any kind of read on them.
https://youtu.be/zpG1Ywmbioc
On skim just now they felt sorta flat. But I'm also just farting air instead of using braincells right now.
Sorry team
I suppose this is likely one of those times when people mistakenly think I'm "angry" and/or "egotistical" and/or "sir this is a wendy's"
when in fact I'm just very confused and being unnecessarily melodramatic and/or theatrical and/or "sir this is a 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread"
:turtle:
Hey! You're fun to play with and I don't mind at all. I think that your push helped me find you. Some of it felt little shallow, like you questioning some rather small things instead of my reads, but I totally get why, it's because you knew they weren't totally truthful.
Ladd's push in comparison focused on reads and felt quite decent but I'm not sure if he was trying to find my alignment or just break apart some of my reads. What's your hunch?
skimmed?
what do you mean?
light
Hey! You're fun to play with and I don't mind at all. I think that your push helped me find you. Some of it felt little shallow, like you questioning some rather small things instead of my reads, but I totally get why, it's because you knew they weren't totally truthful.
Ladd's push in comparison focused on reads and felt quite decent but I'm not sure if he was trying to find my alignment or just break apart some of my reads. What's your hunch?
:2thumbsup:
ladd's responses seem fine but not very alignment indicative
It's an old saying/trope (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IdTellYouButThenIdHaveToKillYou).
I mostly just thought his page 1 was kinda half-assed, and my quasi-secret tell on him may have applied. And there hasn't been much else suspicious to go on. :shrug:
I agree with you that his low activity level does not mean anything wrt his alignment
if gh flips wolf I am going to suspect you with extreme prejudice purely because of that terrible last line
my plan to appear not w/w with gh has been foiled
back to wolfchat drawong board
light
I mean he postef only pg. 1/2 no?
what kind of reads were you expecting?
also i guess this is where I say that i know I am grtting nitpicky bit bear with me please etc..
my plan to appear not w/w with gh has been foiled
back to wolfchat drawong board
when he's on tomorrow get in an argument about how you're not w/w with eachother, with one person sort of agreeing to it but the other is saying it's ridiculous to agree with a w/w read that contains yourself.
Somehow it's a wording misunderstanding
then get in an argument about how something completely different and softly reference that the others opinion doesn't matter because of the earlier spat about the w/w read.
If you need more ideas let me know
Unvote, Vote: El Barto
won't be around for eod tomorrow. will try to pop in sometime tomorrow but no promises
:elephant:
:soapbox: :hail: :crown:
5. Zack
~:grouphug:
17. merl1n
15. Empoof
:yes:
1. Montmorency
16. Insaner
:eyebrows:
12. Cuthillius
14. Newyn
11. ladd
:blank:
8. Dyachei
2. Csargo
7. Logic
13. Egix
:boink:
9. Pzelda
10. Fable
:argue: :duel:
6. GeneralHankerchief
:rifle: :smash:
4. Choxorn
3. El Barto
Dude, no way those two belong in the same tier
Especially given your prev post
Unvote, Vote: El Barto
won't be around for eod tomorrow. will try to pop in sometime tomorrow but no promises
:elephant:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/631206979423043643.png?v=1
Dude, no way those two belong in the same tier
Especially given your prev post
just for that i'm putting you in the gh tier
my plan to appear not w/w with gh has been foiled
back to wolfchat drawong board
If your plan is to try to make people too busy laughing to vote you, it's working well
Tally:
4 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius, Egix)
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, Ladd)
1 Csargo (GH)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
1 ladd (Insaner)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Fable, Dyachei, Csargo, Logic
LMK if i've made a mistake.
If your plan is to try to make people too busy laughing to vote you, it's working well
wow you guys are too smart
that was my new plan but tgey got us, empoof. Wolfchat meeting 5
gj making that post with all tips btw, they ll never think a wolf would give tip to another wolf about how not look w/w with a third wolf
wow you guys are too smart
that was my new plan but tgey got us, empoof. Wolfchat meeting 5
gj making that post with all tips btw, they ll never think a wolf would give tip to another wolf about how not look w/w with a third wolf
in 5*
I'll be back in 5ish hours
laterz
how do we stress test a towncore exactly
I'm not even adding insaner into it personally but I'm fine with zack calling him town and don't have anything really against him, the more he posts the more comfortable I end up feeling.
People are sorta halfheartedly calling me town, probably expecting me to do some of my fancy tells™ since I've been taking somewhat of a backseat/sideline approach.
Like, you don't have to agree with any towncore forming? I don't even think we've done any towncore-y things. We're just actually playing to game in a sea of people sorta just... not really playing. I can't read into any of that. There's probably been a wolf that's been active and playing, and it's probably someone like GH or ladd. Both of them are the type of players that are easier to read the longer the game goes. ladd's doing /fine enough even though I kinda feel not so comfortable about the slot for no real good reason.
Sidebar towncore would be like monty/cuth, cuth more than monty for me.
If you want to stress test anyone in the core it's gonna be me and there's basically zero chance that that'll be anything productive.
American Vandal is hilarious though for anyone wondering, I'm on episode 3 right now ZOOM
Hank is active and playing?
So Capage randed wolf :(
Tally:
4 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius, Egix)
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, Ladd)
1 Csargo (GH)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
1 ladd (Insaner)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Fable, Dyachei, Csargo, Logic
LMK if i've made a mistake.
:(
Ladd wifoming the living shit
I need to read Monty's posts again, but my guess is we have v/v wagons.
Should probably murder Ladd.
You're welcome.
Oh and finally in a game where egix is pillaging so that's cool.
New phone is killing me. Meant villaging but if egix likes pillaging I'm not gonna judge.
GH is village will be my hero read for this game.
:sweetheart:
Insaner
merl1n
Zack
Empoof
:kiss2:
Newyn
El Barto
:blush:
Cuthillius
Egix
Montmorency
:snore:
Csargo
Choxorn
Logic
Dyachei
Fable
:whip:
Pzelda (Capage)
ladd
GeneralHankerchief
El Barto is so high on the list because I think his big post was just that townie and I am very disappointed that this was our #1 consensus scum for the entire day.
I read Monty again and I don't feel as justified defending him as I feel about Barto, but there are small tidbits that make me lean town on him.
I lost faith in my Cuth wolf read after his big re-entry post. I think it had some very good analysis and it would be quite impressive if he faked that as wolf. But he only touched upon 1/3 of the playerlist which is making me hesitant to put him higher on the list. Granted, he did talk about all of the most vocal players, but still.
Egix feels like he just sorta exists. His posts seem good on tone and the points he is making have merit, but it doesn't feel like he has a lot of presence and I don't really have a good idea of what the game is like to him yet. It's a slight town lean and I wouldn't wanna kill them today, but don't feel comfortable placing them higher either.
Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus.
Like this read here is just frankly bull. You said you liked his posts, why would everyone else thinking the same make Zack suspicious? It makes no sense. It's like you are on that level where you aware that slapping a lazy town read on Zack might make you look suspicious so you want to add some sort of tinfoil to your read.
Egix
Do you like pillaging? Now I have to know.
Lettuce Cabbage :bow:
vote: Pzelda
:on_hero:
Idfk if I'm gonna remember this game tonight lol but if I don't don't lynch Bart, I have no feelings about monty.
Vote:Ladd
Also I'm thinking about giant enemy crabs, crab raves, And crab battles. Why are there so many crab memes?
Dude, no way those two belong in the same tier
Especially given your prev post
This post implies that Egix believes his wolf read on Monty/his town rad on me
huh
You saying stuff like this makes me think you're either scum who's concerned with hunting for 3ps, or a 3p yourself.
Also, why do you vote Bart after not mentioning him amywhere else in your post?
Unvote. Vote: Montmorency
Yeah idk what to make of monty's 3p posts. is kinda weird
low key liking fable right now but I never lock in a read on him early. His wolf game is way too respectable for that. So he's light village for now
there's just a right amount of fucking around while making reads. We'll see what happens as time goes on.
pzelda - talk to me about the zack read some more? I feel like him playing around is more indicative of a village game than his wolf game so I want to understand why you find it wolfy
also El Barto have we played together before? did you have a different username?
GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 14:41
Morning.
Skimmed a bit, haven't reread in depth (hope to do that before EOD), but here's some of my takes so far:
Barto/Monty wagons are not particularly spicy but I guess not really surprising considering this playerset. Between the two of them I think Barto has a higher chance of flipping mafia due to his start and Monty seemingly being whimsical Monty-self instead of really trying to accomplish anything in particular in this game. This is more of a "I like Monty for town" read than "I like Barto for scum" read, and while I recognize that I haven't played with either in literal years, I think the old meta still holds.
Fable can be town just because he's Very Obviously being a brat with the way he's treating the thread/game right now, I don't mean that in a particularly bad way, it's just like he doesn't feel obligated to actually try and put on a performance, and that's generally indicative of Town!Fable from my experience. I don't think this is a result of the low activity of the game, either, it's still a quality playerlist and he'd know he'd have to do stuff to fit in as mafia despite the low volume so far. Furthermore, I see that he just recently dropped a random townread on me that's kind of against the grain, and if it's for the reasons I suspect it is, then it's 100% something that Fable would do as town.
dya gets a day pass, I expect she'll be more active on D2, as will I.
I actually like Logic's three posts. Want to see more, but not worried yet.
Zack is... tentatively in my town. This has nothing to do with how he's approached my slot. It's more related to the fact of how he's dug into things that have caught his attention and hammered away at them until he's satisfied and refused to let up on things. There's less :daisy:posting than I'd expect, but I don't really think that's alignment-indicative in this environment. My main goal here is to further reinforce his townreads so that the mafia don't kill him at night for fear that he'll be protected by a doc or jailkeeper or something and be more likely to move on me instead. :book2: (but seriously, I think he's probably ok here)
Those are the takes that have stood out most to me so far, I don't really have any mafia yet beyond potentially Barto. Will make another pass later on today. If I haven't talked about someone here, it's because their posts haven't really left much impression on me. Yes, that includes you, Empoof.
I'm glad people are enjoying the emotes.
Should probably murder Ladd.
You're welcome.
why?
ladd and GH are holding on to their Barto wolf read like
https://media.giphy.com/media/xlLerrsdqYdWw/giphy.gif
GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 14:53
ladd and GH are holding on to their Barto wolf read like
https://media.giphy.com/media/xlLerrsdqYdWw/giphy.gif
> "This is more of a 'I like Monty for town' read than a 'I like Barto for scum' read"
> GH is totally holding onto that Barto scumread amirite
> "This is more of a 'I like Monty for town' read than a 'I like Barto for scum' read"
> GH is totally holding onto that Barto scumread amirite
Insaner writes: "in denial"
GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 14:56
Insaner writes: "in denial"
I don't know what this is supposed to mean.
hey at least you jist talked about barto
I have batrly talled about him all game and i dont remember mentioninh hin either
go bug zack about it
I don't know what this is supposed to mean.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/040ad833ddc42c97f102060933aee6b1/tenor.gif?itemid=13690974
Quarter-assed sort by postcount reads
I feel like I should have a better read on Zack besides null considering he's got 60 some-odd posts. I'll be watching this one some more.
I've currently got Insaner as my top town. He's playing like he's bulletproof; questioning people left and right.
I'm sticking with my Empoof is town read until forced to reevaluate. Nothing yet tells me to rethink that.
Ladd feels like his pushes are entirely too easy, and his defenses of things feel the wrong kind of dismissive.
Vote: Ladd
See my comments regarding Zack for the same feelings towards GH.
I didn't really get the suspicion of Monty, so I ISO'ed him. Upon reading it myself, I could see that as a wolf. I'd rather give him time, but he get's a slight scumlean today.
maybe one day people will learn to just leave me alone d1
I've currently got Insaner as my top town. He's playing like he's bulletproof; questioning people left and right.
Mafia day role cop detected.
Ladd feels like his pushes are entirely too easy, and his defenses of things feel the wrong kind of dismissive.
Vote: Ladd
explain thid a bit more please
I don't really think I pushed anyone
anyway i am almost home but pretty tired
gonna take a shower and relax a bit at the very least before reading the thread and actually starting to play
explain thid a bit more please
I don't really think I pushed anyone
ladd
You're going nowhere with your scum-reads, as if you are afraid to commit. However:
You've got some subtle shade on Pzelda that looks like you are reluctant to vote there.
You hedge on calling a post of mine good content wise, but wolfy in tone.
You are reluctant to to do anything with a probable Barto scum-read, instead deferring to others for meta.
You give a out of nowhere ">rand Fable/Barto W/W" and don't follow up.
I feel like you are taking pot shots to see what sticks rahter than actually solving.
Egix
Do you like pillaging? Now I have to know.
Nah
Unless you meant villaging, in which case, ofc I do.
ladd
You're going nowhere with your scum-reads, as if you are afraid to commit. However:
You've got some subtle shade on Pzelda that looks like you are reluctant to vote there.
You hedge on calling a post of mine good content wise, but wolfy in tone.
You are reluctant to to do anything with a probable Barto scum-read, instead deferring to others for meta.
You give a out of nowhere ">rand Fable/Barto W/W" and don't follow up.
I feel like you are taking pot shots to see what sticks rahter than actually solving.
alrighty
who is solving iyo besides insaner (and zack)?
Looks like Logic rolled town. Swag
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 18:02
Looks like Logic rolled town. Swag
Really.
Why do you say?
Really.
Why do you say?
Meaning you don't agree?
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 18:18
Meaning you don't agree?
My main point was asking why you think he's a villager.
My main point was asking why you think he's a villager.
I'm more consensus town read than you so I get to ask questions here tbh.
I got the impression that you don't like Logic much. Why is that?
https://i.imgur.com/GSbdWnm.png
Ladd still wifoming the living shit instead of solving.
https://i.imgur.com/GSbdWnm.png
This is a beautiful piece of art.
https://i.imgur.com/GSbdWnm.png
Seems like drawing this image by your own admission puts you in your wolf range.
Glgl
don't really feel like digging into the thread rn but I'll be around to real time some while doing other stuff. I do intend to be in the thread and try hard for the last 2 hours of the day to try and lunch a wolf.
the following people are various degrees of villagery:
zack
insaner
me
empoof
gh
newyin
also feel ~fine about logic/dya despite them not posting much
haven't really put much depth of thought into these reads but they should be mostly fine
zack is lack clear
Seems like drawing this image by your own admission puts you in your wolf range.
Glgl
https://i.imgur.com/5D8Q0Ha.gif
Formatting. Or I read it but felt like there's not really anything too spicy. Monty I reread because Empoof's super early reads caught my attention. Easy as that, good lad.
just for some context since nested quotes don't seem to be a thing or I am not sure how to make them a thing anyway: this was me asking p about why he read monty wall thrice but didn't read cuth's
pzelda
heyo, can you explain a bit more this post?
like you read empoof posts and he said something about monty that made you went back to re read his walls? I didn't really see empoof talk about monty much
also did you read cuth wall or not? that wall was very big so I feel you'd remember if you actually read it
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 18:50
I'm more consensus town read than you so I get to ask questions here tbh.
I got the impression that you don't like Logic much. Why is that?
Nah. Let's not.
Nah. Let's not.
Why wouldn't you answer my question? :( I would've answered to you after.
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 18:52
Cuth frozen btw
If you keep saying stuff like this it'll be true eventually.
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 18:58
Why wouldn't you answer my question? :( I would've answered to you after.
Because you asked my question back to me instead of answering it? It's not that I think you're a wolf, just that your post came across as trying to grill me in response to me trying to get you to clarify something and understand why you see it a certain way. Touting your status as top town, unfortunately, doesn't make me want to engage in the conversation any more.
well i guess insaner is being insaner itt
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:02
I like Newyn. I don't know if I'm comfortable calling him either alignment yet, though.
Pzelda's opening was rather bizarre and really really awkward if wolf, so villager points there. In particular the interaction with Zack.
I'm unsettled by wagon comp on Monty, think I'd rather hold off there for now, since I'm personally not confident on reading him generically speaking.
Was going to vote Logic, but now I sorta think him calling GH and Zack null, if lazy particularly in the first case, is mildly villagery.
Hum ho.
Cuth getting on a high horse instead of just telling me what he thinks about Logic is NAGL. Especially after I told him that I would answer his question once he answered mine. Makes me question if he really cares for my Logic read in the first place.
Cuth getting on a high horse instead of just telling me what he thinks about Logic is NAGL. Especially after I told him that I would answer his question once he answered mine. Makes me question if he really cares for my Logic read in the first place.
lmao
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:05
Cuth getting on a high horse instead of just telling me what he thinks about Logic is NAGL. Especially after I told him that I would answer his question once he answered mine. Makes me question if he really cares for my Logic read in the first place.
If someone said you could have five bucks if you wanted to wade through the sewers for an hour, would you do it? If not, do you actually want the money at all?
Alright, I'm onboard with Merlin being town. Tone seems pure, and he's doing some pushing I can't see coming from an informed perspective.
Really.
Why do you say?
*Garcia mode activated*
Probably because p#321 is a source of good vibes?
Ladd still wifoming the living shit instead of solving.
He's very clearly seeking refuge in audacity.
This is a beautiful piece of art.
Anything else on your mind?
If someone said you could have five bucks if you wanted to wade through the sewers for an hour, would you do it? If not, do you actually want the money at all?
Wtf
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:13
*Garcia mode activated*
Probably because p#321 is a source of good vibes?
Do you feel that way as well?
He's very clearly seeking refuge in audacity.
nah
I am simply having some fun, which is what I joined this game specifically to do
I'll probably end up being too involved in this game in the near future for various reasons but my initial idea was to play low effort and take it easyy
I like Newyn. I don't know if I'm comfortable calling him either alignment yet, though.
Pzelda's opening was rather bizarre and really really awkward if wolf, so villager points there. In particular the interaction with Zack.
I'm unsettled by wagon comp on Monty, think I'd rather hold off there for now, since I'm personally not confident on reading him generically speaking.
Was going to vote Logic, but now I sorta think him calling GH and Zack null, if lazy particularly in the first case, is mildly villagery.
Hum ho.
can you elaborate a bit on this?
fwiw pzeld generally posts awkard as both alignments but as a villager he is very very obvious ime
also like this post :thumbsup:
oh and as a side, you are cuth from mu right?
I find it hard to believe that Cuth is actually this sensitive. You aren't clear to me, why would you get offended over me trying to put you in a spot? I think Cuth is faking being annoyed here so he doesn't have to answer my question and also make me look worse when all I wanted was to know why he doesn't agree with Logic being town.
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:24
can you elaborate a bit on this?
fwiw pzeld generally posts awkard as both alignments but as a villager he is very very obvious ime
also like this post :thumbsup:
oh and as a side, you are cuth from mu right?
not going to read back but there were a lot of posts that were just
seemingly out of touch with the thread/off balance compared to what other people have been posting/what have you
wrt the zack thing
he was ambivalent about zack, zack responded the way zack responds, he stuck with it and didn't seem to really react? much to the pressure
it was weird, but i didn't get the sense it was... overly self-conscious?
i am, yeah
i'll be honest i've seen you play before and the only thing that really stands out to me about you from past experience is that you're not litten (this is a good thing)
so i'm trying to figure you out
just a heads up
I lost faith in my Cuth wolf read after his big re-entry post. I think it had some very good analysis and it would be quite impressive if he faked that as wolf. But he only touched upon 1/3 of the playerlist which is making me hesitant to put him higher on the list. Granted, he did talk about all of the most vocal players, but still.
I find it hard to believe that Cuth is actually this sensitive. You aren't clear to me, why would you get offended over me trying to put you in a spot? I think Cuth is faking being annoyed here so he doesn't have to answer my question and also make me look worse when all I wanted was to know why he doesn't agree with Logic being town.
cuth, the sick wolf, is too scared to answer a simple question?
I find it hard to believe that Cuth is actually this sensitive. You aren't clear to me, why would you get offended over me trying to put you in a spot? I think Cuth is faking being annoyed here so he doesn't have to answer my question and also make me look worse when all I wanted was to know why he doesn't agree with Logic being town.
why cant he be annoyed as either alignment? like what makes it lock wolfy to you?
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:27
I find it hard to believe that Cuth is actually this sensitive. You aren't clear to me, why would you get offended over me trying to put you in a spot? I think Cuth is faking being annoyed here so he doesn't have to answer my question and also make me look worse when all I wanted was to know why he doesn't agree with Logic being town.
Since when am I trying to make you look worse, genuinely? I think you're a villager, I've said that before.
With regards to the rest, I would classify it as "rather impatient with certain unproductive styles of interaction" rather than "sensitive", but you're free to have your own impression.
I find it hard to believe that Cuth is actually this sensitive. You aren't clear to me, why would you get offended over me trying to put you in a spot? I think Cuth is faking being annoyed here so he doesn't have to answer my question and also make me look worse when all I wanted was to know why he doesn't agree with Logic being town.
You never answered his question, that was asked first, but are all up in arms that he doesn't want to answer yours? (which again... is basically the same question you were asking him except his was actually first)
Since when am I trying to make you look worse, genuinely? I think you're a villager, I've said that before.
With regards to the rest, I would classify it as "rather impatient with certain unproductive styles of interaction" rather than "sensitive", but you're free to have your own impression.
Would you care to interact with me instead, Cuth?
AMA.
You never answered his question, that was asked first, but are all up in arms that he doesn't want to answer yours? (which again... is basically the same question you were asking him except his was actually first)
Ya.
How is me asking you for a Logic read unproductive Cuth
insaner 2frozen
can't answer my question
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:38
Would you care to interact with me instead, Cuth?
AMA.
Sure. How's your day? Why did you categorize your read on GH as being similar to your read on Zack despite their very different behaviors this game? How do you feel about the person you're most familiar with meta-wise and how do you feel about the person you're least familiar with meta-wise in this game? Are you happy with the amount of content in the game so far? Do you have a question for me?
cuth, the sick wolf, is too scared to answer a simple question?
It's hard to keep up the act I suppose. His recent read posts suck ballz
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:38
How is me asking you for a Logic read unproductive Cuth
It's not, but you being obstructive is.
@gh @zac
what's your choxorn read and when(if) do you feel confident in reading him right?
yes, zack, I already now you think he is a wolf, just wondering how good you are at reading him, I vaguely remember you locking him in as v from spec chat during champs
It's not, but you being obstructive is.
You weren't exactly cooperative either.
It's hard to keep up the act I suppose. His recent read posts suck ballz
your reasons for thinking he is a wolf are absurd regardless if he is one or not
your posts are the ones getting worse though
Sure. How's your day? Why did you categorize your read on GH as being similar to your read on Zack despite their very different behaviors this game? How do you feel about the person you're most familiar with meta-wise and how do you feel about the person you're least familiar with meta-wise in this game? Are you happy with the amount of content in the game so far? Do you have a question for me?
Decent, despite being at work. Internal network issues prevent me from doing research for my job, but I cna read and post just fine.
Being dead in all my recent games but this one mean this has my attention. The fact that I don't have a read but should, on both Zack and GH is concerning.
The only thing I can summon regarding a read on GH is that normally by now he would have called me scummy, or at the very least "wait and see" but last I saw he had me in a town-lean category.
As for Zack, his posts exist, but I can't for the life of me remember anything about them that make me want to categorize him one way or another.
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:42
You weren't exactly cooperative either.
Oh gosh, you really weren't cooperative when you didn't want to wade through those sewers, I'd have paid you five dollars in cash!
Looks like people are taking Cuth's side in this exchange. What a shame.
vote: Pzelda
We'll talk after this flips wolf. Glgl
(My second choice would be ladd byw)
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:44
Decent, despite being at work. Internal network issues prevent me from doing research for my job, but I cna read and post just fine.
Being dead in all my recent games but this one mean this has my attention. The fact that I don't have a read but should, on both Zack and GH is concerning.
The only thing I can summon regarding a read on GH is that normally by now he would have called me scummy, or at the very least "wait and see" but last I saw he had me in a town-lean category.
As for Zack, his posts exist, but I can't for the life of me remember anything about them that make me want to categorize him one way or another.
Do you think you have been wolfy in the context of your usual play, or does he just always call you that?
Do you feel like you have a hard time reading Zack in general outside of this game?
I didnt see an answer to my question, insaner. why is it wolfy to be annoyed with you?
The only thing I can summon regarding a read on GH is that normally by now he would have called me scummy, or at the very least "wait and see" but last I saw he had me in a town-lean category.
As for Zack, his posts exist, but I can't for the life of me remember anything about them that make me want to categorize him one way or another.
maybe you should try reading them since he is the top poster and by far the guy with the most content
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 19:45
Looks like people are taking Cuth's side in this exchange. What a shame.
vote: Pzelda
We'll talk after this flips wolf. Glgl
(My second choice would be ladd byw)
I don't understand either of those reads, would you mind walking me through them?
My read on Choxorn is that he is pretty much rand btw
I didnt see an answer to my question, insaner. why is it wolfy to be annoyed with you?
It isn't. Do carry on with your day.
alrighty, here is the division of the jobs
I expect:
gh to give us a locked in logic read
dya and fable to give us a locked in read on each other
zack to give us a lock choxorn read
me (while I try to dodge being lunched) and empoof will take care of the trolling and the cat herding
Looks like people are taking Cuth's side in this exchange. What a shame.
vote: Pzelda
We'll talk after this flips wolf. Glgl
(My second choice would be ladd byw)
I could lunch p
@gh @zac
what's your choxorn read and when(if) do you feel confident in reading him right?
yes, zack, I already now you think he is a wolf, just wondering how good you are at reading him, I vaguely remember you locking him in as v from spec chat during champs
He seems almost cartoonishly serious and I don't recall much solving, things he's focused on have been strange and nitpicky
He was pretty laid back and joking around in champs as I recall
He seems almost cartoonishly serious and I don't recall much solving, things he's focused on have been strange and nitpicky
He was pretty laid back and joking around in champs as I recall
alrighty
let's try it
vote:Choxorn
:sweetheart:
Insaner
merl1n
Zack
Empoof
:kiss2:
Newyn
El Barto
:blush:
Cuthillius
Egix
Montmorency
:snore:
Csargo
Choxorn
Logic
Dyachei
Fable
:whip:
Pzelda (Capage)
ladd
GeneralHankerchief
El Barto is so high on the list because I think his big post was just that townie and I am very disappointed that this was our #1 consensus scum for the entire day.
I read Monty again and I don't feel as justified defending him as I feel about Barto, but there are small tidbits that make me lean town on him.
I lost faith in my Cuth wolf read after his big re-entry post. I think it had some very good analysis and it would be quite impressive if he faked that as wolf. But he only touched upon 1/3 of the playerlist which is making me hesitant to put him higher on the list. Granted, he did talk about all of the most vocal players, but still.
Egix feels like he just sorta exists. His posts seem good on tone and the points he is making have merit, but it doesn't feel like he has a lot of presence and I don't really have a good idea of what the game is like to him yet. It's a slight town lean and I wouldn't wanna kill them today, but don't feel comfortable placing them higher either.
Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.
Like this read here is just frankly bull. You said you liked his posts, why would everyone else thinking the same make Zack suspicious? It makes no sense. It's like you are on that level where you aware that slapping a lazy town read on Zack might make you look suspicious so you want to add some sort of tinfoil to your read.
There is my Capage read.
As for ladd, I just don't get the feeling that we are on the same team here. Like he is working against people I think are likely villa and is giving my wolf reads an easy pass. His reasons for his reads don't impress me either.
Have people suspecting Ladd this much every played with him before
This is pretty par for the course for how he'd begin a game as villa in my experience
As for ladd, I just don't get the feeling that we are on the same team here. Like he is working against people I think are likely villa and is giving my wolf reads an easy pass. His reasons for his reads don't impress me either.
like who?
OK, a few thoughts from a Barto that really needs Focusyn but won't take it so that the John Carpenter film that's about to start can actually disable my remaining neurons and make me fall asleep before 5 a.m. for once in my sorry life.
There's a lot of players whom I cannot read (ladd, Egix, dyachei -mostly-, Insaner, Empoof, merl1n, Fable -mostly-) because I haven't played with them -well, dyachei and Fable a bit, but it's been ages. So I'll play it by ear.
There's something weird there.
Zack's being aggressive and his read on me seems to have caused an interesting chain reaction from easy bandwaggoners (notice how *he* isn't voting me ;))…
… and then you voted Choxie, at least, but Fable's reaction makes me still suspect him.
newyn/Choxorn's N/A for now but only because it's D1. I've seen mafia duos get by with mutual tunnelling before.
GH's stopping by to post an announcement that he cannot post is odd.
Cuth… my x-postspidey sense tells me that's the real Cuth, at least he's solving, leave alone for now.
Monty… I think he tried to defend me? Odd. But then he voted for me (post #193) without even saying why, just jumping on the bandwaggon. I cannot take earlier D1 votes as terribly serious but Monty's I can because he does a lot of analysis and then plonks down the vote on me. Ty Monty and vote:Montmorency (Fable, get active, man). Counterwaggon roll, choo-choo!
Has anybody seen pzelda? He's the only one not posting.
Things wolves say about other wolves
if barto is a villager, ignore
like who?
I just posted my readlist again?
Have people suspecting Ladd this much every played with him before
This is pretty par for the course for how he'd begin a game as villa in my experience
only fable really, which is why I caed about his explanation the most but doesn't look like I'll get it in brief time
I just posted my readlist again?
yes and I don't see how I worked against any of your villas except el barto who I have never even interacted with
and where I cleared people you think are wolves, except gh who I ahd as rand until 2 pages ago and is a weak town lean
alrighty, here is the division of the jobs
I expect:
gh to give us a locked in logic read
dya and fable to give us a locked in read on each other
zack to give us a lock choxorn read
me (while I try to dodge being lunched) and empoof will take care of the trolling and the cat herding
I wouldn't call it locked in or anything
He is mildly suspicious. I'd rather kill barto
I wouldn't call it locked in or anything
He is mildly suspicious. I'd rather kill barto
el barto
I honestly have no real preference
I don't think any MUer has been particularly bad except maybe pzeld(capage)
will have betetr read on them (the MUers) d2 though
Anything else on your mind?
I'm still reading through the thread, I've had a busy few days, but my impressions so far:
Zack's opening was strong, but that's to be expected, Zack's a strong player. I'm hesitant to prematurely say he's town, but everything points in that direction. He spews sunshine and rainbows.
Empoof seems in a similar vein to Zack, nothing gives me pause about their play so far. Though I'm not familiar with Empoof's play in general, but from my perspective it's all been good so far.
I'm okay with merl1n, Insaner, and Logic overall. I don't particularly think Insaner's "I'm townier, answer my question." was productive, but to each their own. Other than that I haven't read anything from Insaner that would make me think negatively. merl1n just seems pure and engaged, it's refreshing, nothing negative to say about any of their contributions honestly. Logic's opening was meh, but his recent postings were pretty good I thought, and that makes me think he's town.
I agree with Zack's meta read of Barto's behavior, generally I'd expect Barto to vote Insaner there. It probably doesn't mean much, but it seemed cautious to me, which is unexpected from Barto. I might be reading too much into it though.
GH's opening bothered me initially, a bit generic maybe? or just fell flat with me I'm not sure exactly how to describe it. Plus his interaction with Zack about Insaner seemed odd to me. I generally agree with what he posted this morning, so I'm a bit torn overall about how to feel.
Monty is an enigma. I'm not sure how to feel about him currently.
I don't have much else, but I'll continue reading.
maybe you should try reading them since he is the top poster and by far the guy with the most content
Trust me friend, I have read them (though a reread won't hurt.) I say it's concerning because I don't have a feel of how I should read Zack. I can't remember anything to point to say "this is tonally good/bad."
alrighty, here is the division of the jobs
I expect:
gh to give us a locked in logic read
dya and fable to give us a locked in read on each other
zack to give us a lock choxorn read
me (while I try to dodge being lunched) and empoof will take care of the trolling and the cat herding
Yeah, GH should have a lock-Logic read before EOD1. If I flip opposite of what he called me, GH is a wolf.
Csargo's post is absolutely glorious.
Oh and finally in a game where egix is pillaging so that's cool.
Have we played before though? MU Anni maybe?
In which case I find this read kinda surprising ngl.
Csargo's post is absolutely glorious.
:flowers:
alrighty, here is the division of the jobs
I expect:
gh to give us a locked in logic read
dya and fable to give us a locked in read on each other
zack to give us a lock choxorn read
me (while I try to dodge being lunched) and empoof will take care of the trolling and the cat herding
I wouldn't call it locked in or anything
He is mildly suspicious. I'd rather kill barto
el barto
I honestly have no real preference
I don't think any MUer has been particularly bad except maybe pzeld(capage)
will have betetr read on them (the MUers) d2 though
Zack is giving ladd a mislynch like
https://media.tenor.com/images/1c05297f28f121309fe0c2e89ef9e1a4/tenor.gif
Have we played before though? MU Anni maybe?
In which case I find this read kinda surprising ngl.
fable just played in throne mash...you were taichi there, weren't you?
holy fucking shit that other game is finally over
I'm still reading through the thread, I've had a busy few days, but my impressions so far:
Zack's opening was strong, but that's to be expected, Zack's a strong player. I'm hesitant to prematurely say he's town, but everything points in that direction. He spews sunshine and rainbows.
Empoof seems in a similar vein to Zack, nothing gives me pause about their play so far. Though I'm not familiar with Empoof's play in general, but from my perspective it's all been good so far.
I'm okay with merl1n, Insaner, and Logic overall. I don't particularly think Insaner's "I'm townier, answer my question." was productive, but to each their own. Other than that I haven't read anything from Insaner that would make me think negatively. merl1n just seems pure and engaged, it's refreshing, nothing negative to say about any of their contributions honestly. Logic's opening was meh, but his recent postings were pretty good I thought, and that makes me think he's town.
I agree with Zack's meta read of Barto's behavior, generally I'd expect Barto to vote Insaner there. It probably doesn't mean much, but it seemed cautious to me, which is unexpected from Barto. I might be reading too much into it though.
GH's opening bothered me initially, a bit generic maybe? or just fell flat with me I'm not sure exactly how to describe it. Plus his interaction with Zack about Insaner seemed odd to me. I generally agree with what he posted this morning, so I'm a bit torn overall about how to feel.
Monty is an enigma. I'm not sure how to feel about him currently.
I don't have much else, but I'll continue reading.
Thanks, that's better.
Tbh I'm probably not gonna end up having reads on Hank or Empoof until Day 2. In my mind they are inextricable from their stellar scum performances in the Season 5 finale.
holy fucking shit that other game is finally over
oh snap lemme check that rq
Thanks, that's better.
Tbh I'm probably not gonna end up having reads on Hank or Empoof until Day 2. In my mind they are inextricable from their stellar scum performances in the Season 5 finale.
My reads on people who I don't have much or any experience playing with are extremely tentative. I'm not terribly confident nor is my track record terribly good in such cases. I have trouble reading generally in mafia games, so there's that. What I'm trying to say is I'm bad :sweatdrop:
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 20:37
Capage just feels... very different from the last game I played with him where we were both villagers. Like he isn't providing reads in order to expose the self evident truth of everyone's alignment here but rather just to look like he's contributing. There is little specificity behind his reads and the ones that do have an explanation aren't that hot either.
As for ladd, I just don't get the feeling that we are on the same team here. Like he is working against people I think are likely villa and is giving my wolf reads an easy pass. His reasons for his reads don't impress me either.
would you say capage's the kind of person who makes equivalently off the wall reads as any alignment?
hm
lot more willing to excuse ladd based on those reasons, given the size of the game and how we've just started
but curious to see how that evolves over time
appreciate the answer, genuinely :)
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 20:38
trying to decide if dya as either alignment would have felt a need to engage more heavily than she has so far
leaning towards no but slightly more no as w than v
Cuthillius
12-06-2019, 20:40
*slightly less no
fable just played in throne mash...you were taichi there, weren't you?
I don't remember Fable being in TM, huh
And yes, Taichi = me
They made only 22 posts that game, no wonder
trying to decide if dya as either alignment would have felt a need to engage more heavily than she has so far
leaning towards no but slightly more no as w than v
think this is pretty nai this time in particular
both her and gh were in a fairly intense f3 that just ended
Dya giving me a read after only one round of posting is....certainly a departure from the last few games we've played dunno how I feel about that.
I like csargo so I'm ready for them to flip wolf.
There are so many crab memes but no lobster memes. A journey for answers continues....
Dya giving me a read after only one round of posting is....certainly a departure from the last few games we've played dunno how I feel about that.
I like csargo so I'm ready for them to flip wolf.
There are so many crab memes but no lobster memes. A journey for answers continues....
you don't have to like it
Well insaner is more townie but I don't feel like trusting their reads right now.
Insaner, I want you to very slowly over the course of a either a larger post or a few larger explanation posts explain how you saw barto as town as early as you did (this is cuth's question on who do you think spewed barto as town, which I believe the answer is inside of GH/ladd and that's fine I just want you to actually show it preferably with quotes), I'd like you to stop nitpicking cuth as you're flipflopping harder than my local diner when they make pancakes which is lowering your credibility for me to take you seriously, and I'd like you to repost barto's larger post or a series of posts explaining what inside them you thought was townie.
They're in contention today, it's someone who's name is going to come up. If you're going to hard defend them at least give me that much instead of a bunch of essentially gut town reads on them. If you had a larger explanation that I missed, quote it.
My back still hurts today and I'm pretty pissed about that and have to make a phone call about money in about 30 minutes.
I'm trying to remember if GH thinks I'm an easy read or not. I know he respects my wolf game but I don't think that stops him from reading me at all. Otherwise I agree with his summary post today and he's not the type of player that's going to get "tripped up" by insaner doing insaner things.
I'll be in in about an hour or so, depending.
There's a very real part of me that wants to vote whoever Fable wants and just see what happens because I think it's funny
you don't have to like it
I want to like it but it feels very unlike you I guess. I'm used to waiting until d3-d4 for that read. :p
I want to like it but it feels very unlike you I guess. I'm used to waiting until d3-d4 for that read. :p
I don't know when I normally read you but you fucking around like you have already with some reads thrown in looks good enough for d1
There's a very real part of me that wants to vote whoever Fable wants and just see what happens because I think it's funny
https://i.imgur.com/goIfRsq.gif
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This was the best lobster meme I could find.
I'm not impressed.
Have people suspecting Ladd this much every played with him before
This is pretty par for the course for how he'd begin a game as villa in my experience
Yes, in both MU Anni and Throne game
In the former of those, he was on my scum team so I didn't have to read him ;), but I do think he played very well. He was one of the team captains, I guess you could say.
And in Throne, he was the Mad King (leader of one of the evil factions), I was a neutral, and I TRed him for most of the game.
So that considered, if he's scum this game, he's probably not taking it as seriously cos this isn't a mash game? Or cos he's just a goon?? Idk really.
Yes, in both MU Anni and Throne game
In the former of those, he was on my scum team so I didn't have to read him ;), but I do think he played very well. He was one of the team captains, I guess you could say.
And in Throne, he was the Mad King (leader of one of the evil factions), I was a neutral, and I TRed him for most of the game.
So that considered, if he's scum this game, he's probably not taking it as seriously cos this isn't a mash game? Or cos he's just a goon?? Idk really.
ftr I take non mashes wolf game wayyyy more seriously than mash wolf games
but I have randed wolf in a non mash only 1.5 times in the last couple of years so I think only dya has actually seen me wolf in standard games here and zack a little bit
I've seen ladd wolf twice at least.
I've seen ladd wolf twice at least.
Though I do not remember any of it other than he was really good.
I haven't randed wolf in a non mash since wednesday
GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 21:16
think this is pretty nai this time in particular
both her and gh were in a fairly intense f3 that just ended
Confirming this.
Taking a few hours off to get my head straight and then I'll dive in here.
I've seen ladd wolf twice at least.
My experience when he is a villager is he starts the game slow and gets a lot of heat for it, almost every time without fail.* He takes time to build up to his full power.
The only time I recall seeing him wolf was in a team game where we not in the thread together on the same day, and my team may have actually already been dead by the time he was in the thread, don't remember exactly. He was very good tonally, and I distinctly remember having trouble reconciling how he was so villagy but making such wolfy pushes. The answer, of course, was because he was a wolf pushing his agenda. When we later played as v/v in a light game, our reads and thoughts on the game were almost impossibly similar. That said, he's keenly aware of that and so I don't put much stock into him agreeing a lot with me so far in this game, especially when it's mostly bland agreement with me after the fact.
All that said, I don't think he is super villagy or anything but he's definitely not wolfy either imo and killing him day one would be a mistake because he's an extremely good villager that people often misread on day one.
Confirming this.
Taking a few hours off to get my head straight and then I'll dive in here.
Taking day one off and waiting to dive in until I'll be gone :stare:
you wily dog!
why do people townread egix?
feel like I've seen that a few times with almost no suspicion on him and I don't get it
ftr I take non mashes wolf game wayyyy more seriously than mash wolf games
but I have randed wolf in a non mash only 1.5 times in the last couple of years so I think only dya has actually seen me wolf in standard games here and zack a little bit
- Well obviously I'm not gonna find that easy to believe but... okay...
- I presume the point-five is from when you subbed into that one Champs practice game. What was the other one?
- Well obviously I'm not gonna find that easy to believe but... okay...
- I presume the point-five is from when you subbed into that one Champs practice game. What was the other one?
that was the 1
the .5 was a team game from some time ago on mu
why do people townread egix?
feel like I've seen that a few times with almost no suspicion on him and I don't get it
yeah coincidentally I agree and actually almost posted soemthing similar a while ago before being distracted by something (probably insaner)
not that I think they are wolfy but both their "push" on me and monty are pretty weak
why do people townread egix?
feel like I've seen that a few times with almost no suspicion on him and I don't get it
Yyyeah it's pretty obvious to me atp that you don't know how to read me
It's okay, you'll learn one day.
don't really feel like digging into the thread rn but I'll be around to real time some while doing other stuff. I do intend to be in the thread and try hard for the last 2 hours of the day to try and lunch a wolf.
the following people are various degrees of villagery:
zack
insaner
me
empoof
gh
newyin
also feel ~fine about logic/dya despite them not posting much
haven't really put much depth of thought into these reads but they should be mostly fine
zack is lack clear
i don't think i like ladd putting himself in the middle of a list of people that have been "villagery". i've included myself when talking about people i think are good before but it's always either at the start or the end, being in the middle feels artificial instead of natural
My experience when he is a villager is he starts the game slow and gets a lot of heat for it, almost every time without fail.* He takes time to build up to his full power.
The only time I recall seeing him wolf was in a team game where we not in the thread together on the same day, and my team may have actually already been dead by the time he was in the thread, don't remember exactly. He was very good tonally, and I distinctly remember having trouble reconciling how he was so villagy but making such wolfy pushes. The answer, of course, was because he was a wolf pushing his agenda. When we later played as v/v in a light game, our reads and thoughts on the game were almost impossibly similar. That said, he's keenly aware of that and so I don't put much stock into him agreeing a lot with me so far in this game, especially when it's mostly bland agreement with me after the fact.
All that said, I don't think he is super villagy or anything but he's definitely not wolfy either imo and killing him day one would be a mistake because he's an extremely good villager that people often misread on day one.
That's pretty much why I'm wolfreading him. I don't think he has a villagery agenda. But I get why you would disagree given your reads this game.
Yyyeah it's pretty obvious to me atp that you don't know how to read me
It's okay, you'll learn one day.
I mean I've never played with you and don't know who you are, why would I "know" lol
Morning, Poof. I am not ignoring you - it's just gonna take me some time to get my thoughts in order. I was actually waiting for you to show up. Lettuce work together and lynch a woof today.
yeah coincidentally I agree and actually almost posted soemthing similar a while ago before being distracted by something (probably insaner)
not that I think they are wolfy but both their "push" on me and monty are pretty weak
I'm kinda internally debating with myself whether lynching you d1 is a good move or not
As for Mont, I can't really interact with him further until he comes back, which I don't think he has done yet
trying to catch up a little in my 30 minutes free, u ppl talk a lot
i think logic is probably good. i liked his post about ladd, found myself agreeing with almost all of it and thought it had some conviction to it
That's pretty much why I'm wolfreading him. I don't think he has a villagery agenda. But I get why you would disagree given your reads this game.
again, I already asked
explain where is my wolfy agenda
I have barely an agenda
I mean I've never played with you and don't know who you are, why would I "know" lol
I wasn't sure if you had ever seen me play.
It's all right tho, I didn't really mean to come off that aggressively there
Morning, Poof. I am not ignoring you - it's just gonna take me some time to get my thoughts in order. I was actually waiting for you to show up. Lettuce work together and lynch a woof today.
Or is it not morning for you idek
Anyway, gonna start reading back and working on my reply now.
i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable
to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?
i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable
to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?
I generally feel trusting the people whose names start with la and end in dd is the best strategy in forum mafia
but for real, that's something that happens to me d1 too some
just gotta lock in some stuff (for example I have decided zack is a villager and am basing my play today around that for a good part) and then when flips start to come the game becomes way easier
I generally feel trusting the people whose names start with la and end in dd is the best strategy in forum mafia
well since i'm trying to avoid trusting other people and form my own opinions, that means removing people whose names start with l and end in dd from the game is probably the most beneficial course of action
i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable
to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?
Hmmm
I actually started on forum so I don't really recall ever experiencing this problem
I guess you'll just overcome it with experience.
but for real, that's something that happens to me d1 too some
just gotta lock in some stuff (for example I have decided zack is a villager and am basing my play today around that for a good part) and then when flips start to come the game becomes way easier
the utter confidence in me being a villager feels unearned
the utter confidence in me being a villager feels unearned
you are too modest
there has been a lot of skimming, which i'll try and rectify when i have more free time but i'm mostly caught up
how crazy does the end of day get on a forum here? is the lynch very likely to be between the two people with the most votes and i should concentrate effort there or could it be somewhere else at random yet?
I mean I think you could still be a wolf in theory and you are good enough to fool me on d1
but your posts are villagery, you are pushing what I think is a villagery agenda, you are hitting all the notes I expect you to hit as a villager including us agreeing on a lot and fmpov it happened before I even posted
so I am just gonna call you a villager
how crazy does the end of day get on a forum here? is the lynch very likely to be between the two people with the most votes and i should concentrate effort there or could it be somewhere else at random yet?
there is a thing called cfd where someone with 0 or little votes, gets suddenly voted at the end
generally it can get pretty crazy d1 but it depends on the game
also since I am at it, what I like about Empoof is that he is not really trying to be villagery imo
I get it's a veery generic reasons but reading his posts I just think he is posting to solve the game and not be villa read
I am also perfectly aware that I am probably villa reading at least one wolf given how undeveloped my reads are but Idrc
let's just try to lunch a wolf today
I am still open to suggestions and if people have good cases, hmu with them
This feels like a cfd game and player list so I'd expect it
ladd talk to me about newyin, not really someone I have on my radar.
Hi,
Last time I played here I got every single read wrong so you should probably not listen to anything I say unless it helps you push your agenda.
Also, day 1 is clearly absolutely useless so can I get a free pass for today?
thought this looked honest, poof
Cuth is town here.
People giving merlin a free pass, what if he's some secret alt that's not actually new? Would you still town read them then?
and I feel the perspective or this post was more reflective than just trying to look paranoid for the sake of it and/or trying to shade another villa
+ a secret reason
not an home run but wouldn't lunch today
though now that I re read his ISO, the dissonance between having every read wrong last game and the confidence in his reads this game is a bit weird
also I may actually like fable more than dya
maybe
Fable can you explain your wolf read on me?
and @ everyone voting me: please unvote me, I am an incredibly dumb vote and you are limiting my EoD choices by keeping me as a wagon + you are voting a villager
also I am fragile and if I get wagoned for too long I start to get tilted, I play worse, I start getting less pleasant and no one wants that
thanks in advance
I knew I was gonna end up getting too engaged in this game once I was gonna start having time to post
rip plans of low efforting this, the burn out is gonna come for me
back in a bit
@ me if you need something
also I may actually like fable more than dya
maybe
I do, personally.
Vote Choxorn
I do, personally.
Vote Choxorn
you are probably right
zack
empoof
ladd
fable
who else?
you are probably right
zack
empoof
ladd
fable
who else?
take out ladd and put in merl1n
There's a lot of ~middling people that I'm choosing to slightly not comment on.
but I think Zack/empoof/merl1n is rock solid and we can deal with not lynching in fable/cuth/insaner
and people like ladd can agree and put their name inside there :coffeenews:
take out ladd and put in merl1n
motion rejected
we can put in merl1n though, I liked his post about changing his opinion with the lat poster, seems hard to fake as a wolf
zack
empoof
ladd
fable
merl1in
you got anyone else you are confident in?
merl1n is legitimately my absolute top town and anyone who has decided that we're using his "newness" as a crutch either hasn't read merl1n's posts or is a wolf.
Insaner, Hydra 2 probably has been my best town performance this year. Logic being the other head helped a lot too. Read Cupcake Wars (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24545), I got mislynched there d1. Willage decided to follow FTF, who was changing my posts in his quotes and tunnelled me in a super ridiculous fashion...The slot ended up flipping town too, but that's not really important here. I'm talking about to show that my meta differs slightly in every game and on different sites, It differs more. I guess gifs make me more townread in general.
You had other reasons for voting me, hopefully I get around to responding to these latter.
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low key liking fable right now but I never lock in a read on him early. His wolf game is way too respectable for that. So he's light village for now
there's just a right amount of fucking around while making reads. We'll see what happens as time goes on.
pzelda - talk to me about the zack read some more? I feel like him playing around is more indicative of a village game than his wolf game so I want to understand why you find it wolfy
Tbqh I don't know Zack's wolf game. Playing around and people townreading him for it made me suspicious at first. But I think I managed to find the towness later in his response to Bart and through his conversation with me.
Does this mean you townread him as well?
just for some context since nested quotes don't seem to be a thing or I am not sure how to make them a thing anyway: this was me asking p about why he read monty wall thrice but didn't read cuth's
pzelda
heyo, can you explain a bit more this post?
like you read empoof posts and he said something about monty that made you went back to re read his walls? I didn't really see empoof talk about monty much
also did you read cuth wall or not? that wall was very big so I feel you'd remember if you actually read it
Yeah, the first longer post from poof. It had about five clear reads. It was the first thing in the game I found possible to break apart to find some alignment (looking back at it, I should have townleaned poof for making this first too). I think that my opinion on Cuth has been updated at least twice since. I mostly like him now and I even sheep his fable read.
Dya giving me a read after only one round of posting is....certainly a departure from the last few games we've played dunno how I feel about that.
I like csargo so I'm ready for them to flip wolf.
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There's a subtlety in Fable's posts I really like. Also, basically agree with Cuth's post (can't bother to search for it rn).
Dya making a read this early should be a good look for her, but the presence was too low to call it locked.
also I may actually like fable more than dya
maybe
How about ladd?
If activity reads are a thing, he's started doing a lot to get in his active town range. He's def posting more than Dya.
Well insaner is more townie but I don't feel like trusting their reads right now.
Insaner, I want you to very slowly over the course of a either a larger post or a few larger explanation posts explain how you saw barto as town as early as you did (this is cuth's question on who do you think spewed barto as town, which I believe the answer is inside of GH/ladd and that's fine I just want you to actually show it preferably with quotes), I'd like you to stop nitpicking cuth as you're flipflopping harder than my local diner when they make pancakes which is lowering your credibility for me to take you seriously, and I'd like you to repost barto's larger post or a series of posts explaining what inside them you thought was townie.
They're in contention today, it's someone who's name is going to come up. If you're going to hard defend them at least give me that much instead of a bunch of essentially gut town reads on them. If you had a larger explanation that I missed, quote it.
You are correct here - when I was talking about Barto being spewed by wolfy people pushing him, ladd and GH are the people I had in mind. And also Cuth: who didn't actually Barto, but he didn't not push him either as he included him in his possible wolf list. But mainly I was talking about ladd and GH.
Barto defense is interesting because "being busier in another game" (which I don't dispute) doesn't stop him from making a funny vote as opposed to talking about his suspicion.
Barto claims being busy/distracted as a reason why he didn't just drop a vote on you for saying you were going to phonepost (him shading people for that here is NAI; long story)
If we accept this explanation at face value, then think about which takes longer: dropping a simple vote, or posting what he posted instead in response?
vote: el barto
zack n1 kill subbed
teammate el barto bussed
shaded empoof while weirdly defending my ither wolfmate gh
checklist of stuff to do is all done
I'll see you in 10 hours or so but if you need something @ me
wpuldnt really say I am that convinced
just think he was tge wolfiest early on
I agree with your read there and his early phone post just looked like a read wolves know they are making on a villa (insaner) so hold themselves back and put it out there more as information than actually something they wanna push
also just to clarify - I had the barto read before I read your posts on him, zack
you calling him out as well was one of the thing that made me think you are villagery
I saw someone point out that those 2 weren't even the main pushers on El Barto - he was mostly pushed by Zack and you also agreed with it, and I since the two of you are my top villager reads, someone, maybe even more than 1 person, had argued that my point about Barto being spewed is moot since the people I think are wolfy that scum read Barto have actually barely pushed him. But to me, ladd's and GH stances on Barto look exactly like how wolves treat consensus scum read villagers - call them wolfy and then sit back while another villager (Zack) does all the dirty work of convincing others to vote them.
Barto's big post and my comment on it:
OK, a few thoughts from a Barto that really needs Focusyn but won't take it so that the John Carpenter film that's about to start can actually disable my remaining neurons and make me fall asleep before 5 a.m. for once in my sorry life.
There's a lot of players whom I cannot read (ladd, Egix, dyachei -mostly-, Insaner, Empoof, merl1n, Fable -mostly-) because I haven't played with them -well, dyachei and Fable a bit, but it's been ages. So I'll play it by ear.
There's something weird there.
Zack's being aggressive and his read on me seems to have caused an interesting chain reaction from easy bandwaggoners (notice how *he* isn't voting me ;))…
… and then you voted Choxie, at least, but Fable's reaction makes me still suspect him.
newyn/Choxorn's N/A for now but only because it's D1. I've seen mafia duos get by with mutual tunnelling before.
GH's stopping by to post an announcement that he cannot post is odd.
Cuth… my x-postspidey sense tells me that's the real Cuth, at least he's solving, leave alone for now.
Monty… I think he tried to defend me? Odd. But then he voted for me (post #193) without even saying why, just jumping on the bandwaggon. I cannot take earlier D1 votes as terribly serious but Monty's I can because he does a lot of analysis and then plonks down the vote on me. Ty Monty and vote:Montmorency (Fable, get active, man). Counterwaggon roll, choo-choo!
Has anybody seen pzelda? He's the only one not posting.
This post from Barto is alright. He just sees the things that look odd to him and spills it out into the thread. It looks natural. I think his jab at consensus #1 town read Zack is villagery because the wolves already know they won't be lynching him. Also calling someone odd for trying to defend you is probably >rand villager although I don't really have many examples to back it up.
I'm trying to think if I can give you something more other than it just seems natural to me. The answer is sadly no =/ It just strikes me as him giving his... unfiltered? impressions of things. He isn't trying to force any conclusions with his comments which makes it look genuine. He has very little volume and I know it's not a good town case but I think the reasons to wolfread him are way, way worse. It's literally just Zack's two post read where he said that El Barto was wolfy for not voting me along with his joke. That's literally it. It's an okay read to make 5 minutes into the game, but I just checked and Zack actually never updater his read, the only time he gave something else was this post:
This is the same thing choxorn did to newyn that I disliked cause it just feels fake, and masquerades as promoting productivity when it's actually completely unproductive
Which is like, sure it's unproductive, but villagers cast votes on non contributors all the time as well. He never commented on Barto's read post.
Sorry it took so long, got distracted a couple of times.
:party3:
5. Zack
~:grouphug:
17. merl1n
15. Empoof
:beam:
11. ladd
16. Insaner
~:):blank:
10. Fable
14. Newyn
12. Cuthillius
:blank:~:handball:
2. Csargo
7. Logic
1. Montmorency
:anxious::blank:
4. Choxorn
6. GeneralHankerchief
9. Pzelda
8. Dyachei
:beadyeyes2:
13. Egix
:boxing:
3. El Barto
-----
cya! ~:wave:
Which is like, sure it's unproductive, but villagers cast votes on non contributors all the time as well. He never commented on Barto's read post.
it's still passive and something he could easily do as a wolf
barto is a pretty confrontational villager. not feeling that at all here
kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there
almost feels you're TMIing barto town tbh
kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there
you really think so?
he seemed pretty tired to wolf by the end
also see ya, zack. Hopefully we are still both around tmr but our free times this game don't seem to coincide much
it's still passive and something he could easily do as a wolf
barto is a pretty confrontational villager. not feeling that at all here
This looks confrontational to me.
OK, I'm parking my vote here for now. Be more constructive or else.
vote: Fable
(you're not incuding me to change my vote, Fable-san) :bow:
Zack's being aggressive and his read on me seems to have caused an interesting chain reaction from easy bandwaggoners (notice how *he* isn't voting me ;))…
… and then you voted Choxie, at least, but Fable's reaction makes me still suspect him.
Monty… I think he tried to defend me? Odd. But then he voted for me (post #193) without even saying why, just jumping on the bandwaggon. I cannot take earlier D1 votes as terribly serious but Monty's I can because he does a lot of analysis and then plonks down the vote on me. Ty Monty and vote:Montmorency (Fable, get active, man). Counterwaggon roll, choo-choo!
I feel like I should have a more defined read on Barto as he might be my counter-wagon.
At this point, I don't find him wolfier or townier in any of the games I played with him on CivFanatics. He feels pretty much random to me at this point.
Also, I'm tired, taking a nap, hopefully I will wake up in time, uwu.
you really think so?
he seemed pretty tired to wolf by the end
also see ya, zack. Hopefully we are still both around tmr but our free times this game don't seem to coincide much
He was but like...I feel like he makes himself tryhard as a wolf
almost feels you're TMIing barto town tbh
Duh?
This looks confrontational to me.
not really, no
not really, no
shutup wolf
Threatening to vote someone unless they contribute is confrontational.
ladd talk to me about newyin, not really someone I have on my radar.
I'm townreading them for the reaction test they did on Choxo. Was a very heads up way to get something out of the interaction. Actually have them in Barto tier for this, which is just the tier below town core. My latest reads list might need some updating, though.
In that case, I have a night 0 red check on Choxorn because cops that can check whoever they want night 0 is 100% fair :rolleyes:
Vote: Choxorn
Are you town?
Choxorn confirmed to be frozen wolf.
Good night.
Insaner, Hydra 2 probably has been my best town performance this year. Logic being the other head helped a lot too. Read Cupcake Wars (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24545), I got mislynched there d1. Willage decided to follow FTF, who was changing my posts in his quotes and tunnelled me in a super ridiculous fashion...The slot ended up flipping town too, but that's not really important here. I'm talking about to show that my meta differs slightly in every game and on different sites, It differs more. I guess gifs make me more townread in general.
You had other reasons for voting me, hopefully I get around to responding to these latter.
I actually read that game! And I was hard town reading you there, too. Those villagers were fools. And I feel like a have a good read on you, not seeing you as a villager like I did in those 2 games.
I actually read that game! And I was hard town reading you there, too. Those villagers were fools. And I feel like a have a good read on you, not seeing you as a villager like I did in those 2 games.
I bet this isn't the answer you were expecting is it.
Thanks for the post insaner, appreciate it
is EoD in 2 and a half hours or 1 and a half hours?
Trying to time some stuff on my end and if it's 2 and a half I'll be right back
That was a waste of a post and just shows I haven't had coffee yet.
I'll be back.
Vote: Egix
He is number 13 on the signup list, and as we all know, this is a sure sign of evil.
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No.
Unvote, Vote: Newyn
Still no.
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Yes. Are you?
Wait, who exactly are all the wolfy people going after Barto? Zack is the strongest pusher of him and you have Zack as one of your townreads.
Had a chance to go look back through the thread again, and yeah, it's mainly been Zack and Empoof pushing Barto, as well as ladd, (so, 2 of Insaner's townreads and 1 scumread), with a few others occasionally mentioning him (and Monty's voting for him now, of course). Not really sure why Insaner thinks Barto is spewed town by "all these wolfy people" going after him. Ladd going after Barto certainly doesn't mean he can't be scum, or that those two couldn't be scumbuddies.
Actually, looking again, it's really just been Zack and Empoof with ladd sorta thinking he was wolfy but not strongly pushing him.
Is there anyone else you do feel particularly good about being a wolf? Does Barto still look like the wolfiest player to you?
This is every post made by Choxorn this game. I think I should put this at somewhere around rand. Probably wouldn't be opposed to lynching him on D1, but I remember ladd being fine with his lynch too and ladd is a filthy woof so :no:
Tally:
4 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius, Egix)
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, ladd)
1 Csargo (GH)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
1 PZelda (Insaner)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
2 Ladd (Fable, Logic)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
LMK if i've made a mistake.
I could lunch p
Are you forgetting about this, Insan?
alrighty
who is solving iyo besides insaner (and zack)?
Sometimes, I like to intentionally fail to answer questions and see if the person asking follows up and demands from me an answer. Ladd never did.
Now, I'm not giving him lock-scum, but I don't think this is a good look. Especially seeing how he responded to other posts I have made in the interim.
His push on me seems entirely fake, and that is why I'm not switching, barring some kind of CFD onto someone I think is a villager, where I will vote a counterwagon to said hypothetical villager.
Montmorency
12-06-2019, 23:46
I'd be more charitably disposed towards you this game if you'd said yeah well you know you post all sorts of things because it'd be rather true and make a clear narrative.
I don't really understand what you're trying to convey with this sentence.
You saying stuff like this makes me think you're either scum who's concerned with hunting for 3ps, or a 3p yourself.
Come join the murder.
Come join the red.
We'll give you freedom
From the townie track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqWUgKVKbOQ
Also, why do you vote Bart after not mentioning him amywhere else in your post?
I felt it was important that I do so.
Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.
What about all the non-fluff? Strike 1.
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content.
I do agree, it feels like he is posting just to post. Not really seeing any gamesolving from him. Not making much sense either.
:deal:
I learned it by watching you! :bigcry:
There isn't anything for me to solve yet, so you have to wait for my observations to ripen. Don't expect me to blow the game open just yet.
With all due respect, what the fuck are you talking about?
Why would you ever read your partners posts, you already know their alignment
Not sure if scum or towntell.
Also, noted cuth-zelda pairing by empoof.
Post before that sometimes feel like you're just keeping yourself occupied posting in this thread.
b)people putting you in their town piles might be lazy wolves.
As opposed to me? For the record, I have studiously avoided townreading Zack.
I suppose this is likely one of those times when people mistakenly think I'm "angry" and/or "egotistical" and/or "sir this is a wendy's"
when in fact I'm just very confused and being unnecessarily melodramatic and/or theatrical and/or "sir this is a 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread"
:turtle:
NAI then.
Have a feeling tomorrow will be a little explosive activity wise for a couple players so should be :pop2:
In full seriousness, this should be taken as a soft claim.
my plan to appear not w/w with gh has been foiled
back to wolfchat drawong board
:wine:
If your plan is to try to make people too busy laughing to vote you, it's working well
You mean. Egix-ladd.
Tally:
4 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius, Egix)
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, Ladd)
1 Csargo (GH)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
1 ladd (Insaner)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
Not voting: Merl1n, Fable, Dyachei, Csargo, Logic
LMK if i've made a mistake.
Yeaahhhgh it's the thunderdome. I mean, don't do that.
I wonder how the next 200 posts shape up. :sick:
Lemme just skip to the end...
Tally:
4 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius, Egix)
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, ladd)
1 Csargo (GH)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
1 PZelda (Insaner)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)
2 Ladd (Fable, Logic)
Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo
LMK if i've made a mistake.
Holy shit there's been NO MOVEMENT on the 4-4 wagons? At the risk of endorsing the wrong valence, but this has to mean something. My gut tells me it means it's more mechanically likely that Barto is town than scum. Am I wrong?
that was my new plan but tgey got us, empoof. Wolfchat meeting 5
gj making that post with all tips btw, they ll never think a wolf would give tip to another wolf about how not look w/w with a third wolf
Anti-spew!! He's trying to place himself in a team with empoof and GH. Inverse rule of three: If ladd is scum one of empoof or GH is lock town.
For the glory: ladd-egix-GH.
Are you forgetting about this, Insan?
He's bluffin
GeneralHankerchief
12-06-2019, 23:51
Logic's town, consider this locked in.
Chox... might be mafia, but I'm not confident enough to go there today I don't think, and I think I can get him locked in one way or the other on D2. Would prefer not going there today.
ladd seems fine, think he's a miss.
I guess Insaner can be town and it's largely for his weird gif at me earlier today moreso than anything else he's done/general temperament.
Not as sold on Merl1n town as everyone else, and it's largely for this post:
i'm finding myself agreeing with whatever post is the last one i read, and then changing my opinion when i read another post that has an almost contradictory opinion. this has never been a problem irl games because people have pretty distinct voices but when i'm just reading words i'm having trouble figuring out if someone is bad or good and instead it's turning into a matter of me agreeing or not agreeing, and most of the time i'm just agreeing if they sound reasonable
to u ppl who play more forum games how do you train yourself out of this?
It just seems a little overdone, even for the "I'm new and this is my first game" act he's putting on. I don't doubt that this is his first game but I feel like he's putting it on a little too much.
Empoof is gut mafia for me. Can't really explain it now. Kill me tonight if you don't want me to flesh this out please.
Guess I'm voting with my two large posts as a guideline. Anyone I haven't talked about I'm probably ambivalent about.
I guess Insaner can be town and it's largely for his weird gif at me earlier today moreso than anything else he's done/general temperament.
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There are plenty of reasons to town read me and you chose this? I don't believe it.
I'm preoccupied atm but both wagons probably a miss tbh.
For the glory: ladd-egix-GH.
Swap egix with pzelda and you got yourself a wolf pack
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