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Rask if you are still around can you give me a bit more on ender and ladd
1. I do not think Rask and Visor are wolves together. Even with the early Rask vote on Visor which could be early w/w theater, the pressure has continued into the second day goes in both directions. Specifically I think visors post about Rask where he says he went “mask off” locks in it as not w/w. Note this is also the first post of visors that made me realize he was likely just a villager (probs the vilalgeriest post in the thread). Rask also has a post in #320 where he cases visor and uses visors case on Waza being bad (which wasn't Visors case, it was mine) that looks earnest in its attempt to kill Visor.
2. The way Raskol defends Maple in #221 (“maple was just lacking at the time”) in an effort to shade Enders vote on Maple was something I noted. Rask also had a post in #241 pairing up Lissa/Maple as “coordinated” and then again in #262 calling the wolf team Ender/Lissa/Maple and yet again in #299 asking Ladd “why logic instead Maple” to vote. The ways that Rask is shading Maple in some posts and defending in others strikes me as something unpaired because to me Rask would be consistent with either defending or shading, not oscillating between the two.
3. As for why I have a Raskol wolf read in general it's a combination of Rask misattributing the case of waza being bad to Visor in an effort to push Visor near eod, being told that wasn't Visor, and then rather than shifting to thinking I'm wolfy then (the author of the Waza case) Rask just changed it to the Cape case from Visor as the reason Visor was wolfy. Additionally, I thought the shift from “why logic instead of maple” to #337's post about thinking Logic's behaviour is more likely to come from a wolf than not. What changed between #299 to #337? On top of that, I am a sucker for listening to people who just flat out say “hey this person is my friend but they are obviously wolfing to me” the way Visor did about calling Rask going mask off.
4. Shifting over to Ender, we have Ender doing a catchup stint and going at Vanta into Maple. This gets sponged by Cape who goes on to call Ender too sloppy to be a wolf and Ladd who says he thought Ender was fine but then reread the posts and wow they are so wolfy. Which brings me to my one in Ladd/Ender feelings. Ladd's comments about Ender came after a couple of other people (visor, cape) were discussing Ender. Either a.) Visor and Ladd both found Enders posts extremely wolfy which I want to focus on and give credit to or b.) Ladd saw Visor and Cape shading Ender and wanted to poke that along. I find it unlikely that villager Ender and villager Ladd exist in this situation because Ender is pinging multiple people who play a lot with him if Visor/Cape/Ladd are villa and would likely be a wolf if so, but I also don't think villager Ender gets pinged by those 3 if they are pure either. Given that I think Visor and Cape are villagers, this brings me to Ladd/Ender having a wolf between them. Yes I know Cape was calling Ender villagery but it was because it was too wolfy/sloppy to be a wolf and I'm still counting it.
5. I talked earlier about why I think Cape is a villager so I wont rehash that one right now. It's not a lock (nothing in a game where people are posting less than 30 times is a lock) but I feel good about it for where we're at.
7. In the event that Ender is a wolf, I do not think Maple is. In the event that Rask is a wolf, I don't think Lissa is. Just two small things between those groups.
8 . I've talked in depth about Waza (also idk if I mentioned it but I've seen the “double voter” thing done in both alignments by Waza so that didn't move the needle). I think there's a solid chance of wolf there but I also think there is for Lissa and Jan there too. Only room for one though if my Ender/Ladd pair and my Rask/Maple pair works.
9. The reason I think if rask v then maple w is my general feelings that a.) rasks takes on pushes that i typically think are too early or ~rand end up being right and b.) if rask is a V he was pushing logic, maple, visor at eod and was unable to really get anyone to bite on maple even though people were voting visor and logic at the same time. So when Rask is consistently pushing Maple at eod and can't get anyone to talk about Maple but can get votes on logic/visor then I think its just because maple is a wolf. Now, my current idea is that Rask is a wolf but yeah.
Now I'm not sitting here saying this is airtight. It's day two with low info chop and very few posts. I reserve the right to say “lol nah thats wrong” and yolo elsewhere. But this is the process I came to to land where I'm at with my gamestate stuff.
thats not a+ werewolfing but its a solid b i think
and il ltake it if so
ive never been one to explain things articulately and i wish i were better at it. feel like it just comes out a bit of a rambling mess every time i try with gaps that make sense to me but not others
newcomb is the GOAT for articulating things on mafia
okay that was more of an answer than i expected nice
i skimmed
eepy
okay that was more of an answer than i expected nice
i skimmed
eepy
maple i got enough copies of the wrong ssr this banner (aka not super creek) to make her level 45 and i have 0 super creeks. i want to cry
maple i got enough copies of the wrong ssr this banner (aka not super creek) to make her level 45 and i have 0 super creeks. i want to cry
it happens....
ive heard on the half anniversary we're getting a ssr selector and i think i might use that to just get a copy of super creek to have
maple i got enough copies of the wrong ssr this banner (aka not super creek) to make her level 45 and i have 0 super creeks. i want to cry
man that sucks, i got super lucky today
pulled a creek AND finally got another 3 star (its speed but w/e, that means i can now finally run 18 star horses)
vote: manti
cmon bronana
do something
rask i have read your posts - i will probably respond in the morning
i will sleep on your post as well sunbae - too tired to put into words rn
i liked lissa voting jan just because its a little more stick your neck out than i typically associate with her wolf game (which is probably woefully out of date meta lol)
but i also need to like actually SEE something lol. Lissa sil vous plais
4. Shifting over to Ender, we have Ender doing a catchup stint and going at Vanta into Maple. This gets sponged by Cape who goes on to call Ender too sloppy to be a wolf and Ladd who says he thought Ender was fine but then reread the posts and wow they are so wolfy. Which brings me to my one in Ladd/Ender feelings. Ladd's comments about Ender came after a couple of other people (visor, cape) were discussing Ender. Either a.) Visor and Ladd both found Enders posts extremely wolfy which I want to focus on and give credit to or b.) Ladd saw Visor and Cape shading Ender and wanted to poke that along. I find it unlikely that villager Ender and villager Ladd exist in this situation because Ender is pinging multiple people who play a lot with him if Visor/Cape/Ladd are villa and would likely be a wolf if so, but I also don't think villager Ender gets pinged by those 3 if they are pure either. Given that I think Visor and Cape are villagers, this brings me to Ladd/Ender having a wolf between them. Yes I know Cape was calling Ender villagery but it was because it was too wolfy/sloppy to be a wolf and I'm still counting it.
i don't disagree with this
ladds reaction to my callout of his ender posts was also just very much a walterwhiteyougotme.gif too (not in a bad way, just that he was like yeah, fair)
it is hard for me to wrap my head around some of the play pattern though - ladd saying what he did in such a strong manner made me thought oh he is going to have seen what i saw
and then he never did and reversed the read for what seems like lacklustre reasoning for such strong word choices in his original push there
but then why do that in the frst place if w/w right? like is your goal to have some sort weird theatre, but then you back down anyway afterwards
i think i am coming around to it being too sloppy to be w/w or at least not planned interactions in that way
i need to reread enders posts re me but i am quite bad at accurately processing responses to me like those so im just gonna put that off till tomorrow lol
i dont know what to make of rask backing off on me a bit - kind of like a kid with his hand in the cookie jar when mum catches him lol
like i want to be like yes this is villagery because you've come to a correct read in a higher stake situation but the thread situation for rask has noticeably turned for the worst and therefore tis possible he also noticed that and saw that he had to back off and change direction for the time being
sometimes i wish i could crush sentimentality lmao
tomorrows problem!
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1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
3Not VotingCape90 (9), Logic (0), Maple (7)
i wish jan had stronger reads
or like a pet read or something that he kept going back to
i assume logics bloated corpse is not an intended game mechanic
theknightsofneeee
you can still post today as far as i can tell right
who are the wolves bronana
Manti
(Ladd/ender)
Lissa/Jan/rask/waza
?
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2Not VotingCape90 (9), Maple (7)
idkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
im bad rn
read some shit, maybe ladd bad? nya
growl
im SO tired
i dont reaaaaaally trust anyone in particular rn
if i trust sunbae to rule out visor to rule out rask then uhhhhhhhh meow.
bro never host games of ww i played one other game and im already giga burnt out this is awful
where is everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
i'm sooo muddled this week ngl lmao
its rough
im PRETTY sure my adhd meds just kinda work like garbage the week or so leading up to my period lmaoooo when i refill them again im gonna see if i can get a booster dose or something idfk
makes everyone kinda being in thread at diff times kinda especially tough
anywayyyy
- I kind of dislike Lissa's overall body of work but I'll get more into that tonight also
Sunbae do you mind like. talking a bit about what you were thinking here even if you don't strongly believe in it anymore
reading your long post, gonna go read over particularly some of the rask stuff you're talking about and the ladd/ender stuff
Maple im here come back and talk to me smh
hiiii me and a bad bitch are watching fargo
hiiii me and a bad bitch are watching fargo
nice sounds like itd be interesting
i feel like theres soooo much shit i havent watched i'd probably enjoy ngl
also funnily enough my brother moved to the actual city of fargo some months ago
nice sounds like itd be interesting
i feel like theres soooo much shit i havent watched i'd probably enjoy ngl
also funnily enough my brother moved to the actual city of fargo some months ago
def worth the watch! the movie is a classic
as far as the game goes tbh im kinda cooked rn
def worth the watch! the movie is a classic
as far as the game goes tbh im kinda cooked rn
ill have to do that sometime
yeh i get it ngl
im like
yeah brain kinda just no worky a lot this week LOL
its bad
game being v slow even for a lightgame doesnt help
i just feel like everyone who makes some decent sounding posts seems like a villa which
is probably a bit reductive i suspect
ill have to do that sometime
yeh i get it ngl
im like
yeah brain kinda just no worky a lot this week LOL
its bad
game being v slow even for a lightgame doesnt help
i just feel like everyone who makes some decent sounding posts seems like a villa which
is probably a bit reductive i suspect
yeah tbh i dont reaaaally know where to go like most people sound at minimum decent
and i have a few people i dont really mind saying "sure they seem well enough" but i dont really have a spot of confidence at all
not to mention the EoD kicks my ass cause i cant even like show up to sheep people smh
well, maybe i will tmr actually cause i may or may not be up early
nyaaa
so anyway, i actually have ideas of setup spec and think a world of 2 is technically possible and that potentially whoever it wasw that talked about all that shit TMId that but that would be a bit of a cowboy read i thinks
yeah tbh i dont reaaaally know where to go like most people sound at minimum decent
and i have a few people i dont really mind saying "sure they seem well enough" but i dont really have a spot of confidence at all
not to mention the EoD kicks my ass cause i cant even like show up to sheep people smh
well, maybe i will tmr actually cause i may or may not be up early
yeh the eods alright for being /there/ at for my sleep but it being at like the very tail end of my day isnt the greatestttt and like just not many ppl seem actually there understandably lmao so its like... not a lot happens
i think jans a wolf but past that i have NO IDEA
nyaaa
so anyway, i actually have ideas of setup spec and think a world of 2 is technically possible and that potentially whoever it wasw that talked about all that shit TMId that but that would be a bit of a cowboy read i thinks
hmm
i feel like if for some reason we did have a way we learned it to be 2 i'd want to dunk tf out of that theorization (that was cape right)
it isss a thing that knights role removes a mislim but it also is sorta countered by the other parts of the role
so doesn't feel very likely to me but maybe technically possible
hmm
i feel like if for some reason we did have a way we learned it to be 2 i'd want to dunk tf out of that theorization (that was cape right)
it isss a thing that knights role removes a mislim but it also is sorta countered by the other parts of the role
indeed and injects kp into the game, so if wolves have *other* forms of KP, a world of 2 becomes much more plausible, and it seems much more like a slip
but this is a gemma setup and we know those can get a touch freaky after the absolute hell of people setup speccing last game ??
indeed and injects kp into the game, so if wolves have *other* forms of KP, a world of 2 becomes much more plausible, and it seems much more like a slip
but this is a gemma setup and we know those can get a touch freaky after the absolute hell of people setup speccing last game ??
hmm yeah if there's actually like
wolf kp as well it could fit yeah that's true
i think that sorta has to be the case for it to ever be 2
and yeah not wrong lmao
Read thread.
1 wolf in Ladd/Ender
1 wolf in Maple/Rask
1 wolf in Waza/Lissa/Jan
I have Visor/Cape as my villagers.
I currently lean the wolf team being Ladd/Rask/Waza but that's more just a shot in the dark. I feel pretty great about the wolf groupings though.
how do the groupings work?
Dont because ur wrong.
Anyway, walk me through your pairings pls. Just seem random to me. (Me / Mapoule? Wat?)
nvm u beat me to asking it
ive never been one to explain things articulately and i wish i were better at it. feel like it just comes out a bit of a rambling mess every time i try with gaps that make sense to me but not others
newcomb is the GOAT for articulating things on mafia
dont sell yourself short king u still a goat
i liked lissa voting jan just because its a little more stick your neck out than i typically associate with her wolf game (which is probably woefully out of date meta lol)
but i also need to like actually SEE something lol. Lissa sil vous plais
wasnt there a bunch of people sussing jan or atleast having him low in their lists? and jan never struck me as the omgus type as either alignment, what makes u view that as lissa sticking her neck out with that vote considering these two points?
oh ya i was gonna say what do you MEAN sunbae that was extremely articulate lmao
oh goddddddddd waza u dont sound villagery im sowwy sobsobsob
whos an obvious villager who can tell me who to vote before i go to bed pls
oh goddddddddd waza u dont sound villagery im sowwy sobsobsob
dont be sorry lol im aware of it, kinda just more focused on spending the little time i have trying to understand peoples povs more than making myself findable
Yeah jan just feels mrrrgggg.
I am in a weird state where I try to remember this is a game while also not posting too much nonsense because of the postcap.
Which results in me just not posting and forgetting for hours.
Disappointed ladd did not post a lmao after the callout.
I like rask a little bit of cape and my heart wants to like sunbae (my brain is staying strong on that one for now).
I feel marples one post resonate with the deepest and darkest parts of my soul.
I kinda squint rereading the first line bc like... idk why hes worried about posting too much nonsense with the cap when. Gestures at his posting and game. I mean he sorta acknowledged that and I like get it but it's still. Mmh
hopw does ender react with "glad we agree on something"
just to turn around and scumread the same post and vote maple based on it.
and all that in reaction to a reaction to the treestump.
Calling out knights readslist is pointless because you know his flip already.
agreeing with that callout just to turn on it does not make it any better.
Not even wolfy because it feels too sloppy to be a wolfplay. Just wrong on every level.
im kinda staring at the uh posts this is about from ender
on the surface it's a reasonable enough pickup
and, mm. the first one of the ender posts being referred to here does look like sort of a joke which is weird b/c later ender clearly didn't seem to see manti's post that ender made that response to originally as a joke
but at the same time it's clear that ender hadn't seen that knights was a flipped neutral when they originally responded to the manti post and then like saw that flip and went wait a minute which is like maybe actually sort of villagery it just weirds me out that it seems like they understood it to be a joke originally?
Raskolnikov
08-15-2025, 09:29
Rask if you are still around can you give me a bit more on ender and ladd
Ladd i have villa, just out of his D1 solving. The read is kinda idle rn considering their irl.
Now I smh didnt like his first page posts but I am not sure if its ai or not and I confess I didnt look back at other games but mostly I dont rrcall feeling this way reading ladds early posts. Also I was a bit disappointed by his final logic vote d1 (i do think its better to vote people with content, blame me).
Ender i do not have more to add I guess. Kinda of an ego read but he has the correct one on me when I felt there was so momemtum early D2 to build up my wagon ridding people bad pushes... which brings me to Sunbae.
I am still digesting their wall but the part about me is not charitable and misrepresenting to an extent. I get the willingness to read and make AI conclusions out of player moves, but the way they paint what I did around visor is not right. Like I didnt switch anything, i just miss remembered who he was pushing early D1, yet the conclusions held, like to me his early case on Cape was meh (I labelled it as "lazy" itt) and I quite didnt get the follow up with Vanta ww with Cape (as I said, in lieu of the other possibilities). If you were paying attention yo what I was saying, its clear I didnt "switch" anything, just missremembered who was the first visors push. And its pretty clear itt since I adressed the first case live, the second case live then misstyped when I sum up the reasons for my vote late D1.
It doesnt make suunbae lock wolf, but still uncharitable, borderline sloppy. Which is weird considering the effort they seem to put in the game (look that wall lmao).
Finishing some stuff (cover for me eating "viennoiseries") then Ill finish up my ketchup
Raskolnikov
08-15-2025, 09:36
it happens....
ive heard on the half anniversary we're getting a ssr selector and i think i might use that to just get a copy of super creek to have
Clear rule breaking there. Gemma modkill these mfers really quick :curtain:
(Hehehehehehehe)
Raskolnikov
08-15-2025, 09:59
Tbh I liked the Ender/Ladd part of Sunbaes wall (Tm). Might be onto something, maybe not (still a lot of assumptions there) but I guess that qualifies as solving commitment? Yes it does.
Last Maple and Lissa didnt move my reads there. Maple could be qualified as not selfaware on surface level but its a crap read D2 and considering Maple lvl so I will just veto it. Their mech rambling might be sound but still very few thoughts in terms of who are the wolves. I get its kind of their playstyle but its hard to tr aorn.
Lissa feels set on Jan and not much else. Need moarrrrr. (At one point I almost felt they were reading Jans iso to justify their vote but that might be uncharitable)
Tbh I liked the Ender/Ladd part of Sunbaes wall (Tm). Might be onto something, maybe not (still a lot of assumptions there) but I guess that qualifies as solving commitment? Yes it does.
Last Maple and Lissa didnt move my reads there. Maple could be qualified as not selfaware on surface level but its a crap read D2 and considering Maple lvl so I will just veto it. Their mech rambling might be sound but still very few thoughts in terms of who are the wolves. I get its kind of their playstyle but its hard to tr aorn.
Lissa feels set on Jan and not much else. Need moarrrrr. (At one point I almost felt they were reading Jans iso to justify their vote but that might be uncharitable)
wdym at one point
i've quoted like
two posts
and one of them i actually just ended up exclusively talking about ender in response to
in other words, one point compared to what else
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2JanLissa (26 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866969&viewfull=1#post2053866969)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
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1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
2Not VotingCape90 (9), Maple (20)
Raskolnikov
08-15-2025, 10:23
wdym at one point
i've quoted like
two posts
and one of them i actually just ended up exclusively talking about ender in response to
#544 lissa. "At one point" might not be the correct wording, and I know its definatly confbias territory.
But I got that feeling for real. And maybe it is because u just quoted 2 posts to back ur stuff up.
I just post my mind, i dunno.
Raskolnikov
08-15-2025, 10:24
Will reread Jan anyway because my read is prolly too surface level there.
Raskolnikov
08-15-2025, 10:49
About Monsieur Viseur (Visor, might as well evade the modkill),
Its not that I realised my thread position was dangerous ( :curtain: ), rather I realised its dangerous to spearhead his chop while I am not certain he is wolfing and other skilled people voiced his villagery. Playing the team game is likely to yield better results for the village.
Also the Vanta kill might be an attempt to frame him. (I do not think w!Visor fear kill Vanta because they have wolfed together). His posting is better also, more in line with his village game, collaborative etc.
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2JanLissa (26 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866969&viewfull=1#post2053866969)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
1MapleVisor (26 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866996&viewfull=1#post2053866996))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
2Not VotingCape90 (9), Maple (20)
Deadline in 3 hours.
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EnderWiggin
08-15-2025, 11:58
Vote: Unvote
I have had a day. Idk how much time I'll have to properly read leading up to EOD. But with this I think I'm more okay with Jan or Lissa dying over Visor now.
I don't think the "omugsing" on knights the treestump was real and just silly one being silly
Cape decided to "sheep you" and you voted maple before maple said they are omgussing you (and you did not post in between.
So either it was not a sheep or his reason cannot be the omgus.
You and anyone else can argue that it was a reaction test, and Maple's reaction was bad.
That is fair.
But nobody has said that.
reading this again i am not really sure that it's the type of wolfy sideline explainy post i was previously talking about. it still rings as a wolfy flavor of reasonableness though
I had thought deadline was another day from now, oops, I can't time in my head apparently
ew people are efforting more then me today, I better like actually effort with the time we have left
having a functional brain for the first time all day at 4 am is REALLY cool btw. Like yeah thanks, I wanted to go to bed in like 2 hours from now and I had WAY more things I wanted to do tonight than I am going to get done!!!! Wonderful.
anyway, I didn't love jan's progression on me.
I disliked you sheeping ender. Might be a wording issue, but enders entry was clearly not reasonable and should not be sheeped for no good reason.
Everything else you did was fine.
I disliked Lissa's post on me right now more, and she has been pushing on you before.
(The post she picked in context was a direct reaction to Ender, where I explain something that happened.)
In addition to that, it is the 2nd (?) time Lissa picks up someone's slight doubt and makes it her own push.
This rings oddly for a couple of reasons.
the "me pushing on cape before" was, in fact, 1. including for exactly the same thing jan disliked 2. the reason he originally villa read me. turning around and implicitly sort of bringing up this unpairing here as a reason to pull back from cape in context of the rest of his posting is a bit weird given that iyam
second, I have no idea why he's acting like the context was being ignored by my post. my description and point about it doesn't at all contradict the context he provided
struggling to get my head in the game but i should be here for eod
I had thought deadline was another day from now, oops, I can't time in my head apparently
ew people are efforting more then me today, I better like actually effort with the time we have left
oh we got another day???
Ladd is in the weird position where I think he could be a wolf, but there is no point in pushing him today, when he is mostly gone for this phase.
The n1 kill makes me think Ladd will be alive for a while, and we can talk about him when he is back.
I agree with waza that sunbae might be someone to look at if you are a villager (or rather if rask/you is v/v).
I don't have a strong read on you, but I rarely read you these days. You either find a wolf and die at night or don't find a wolf and die during the day.
I don't think this game has a lot of "counter culture" simply because most people could still be wolves and reads are fairly soft.
mindset here is also off when this is a 13er and there's already 10 people alive on day 2. like we could be in lylo in some worlds tomorrow lol
oh we got another day???
no, he means he THOUGHT there was another day. eod is in an hour 20
anyway, that's sort of all there really is to talk about as far as specific posts go for jan.
generally speaking he just sort of feels like the wolfy type of disengagement for this gamestate. Not too sure how to explain that, specifically. Archetypically just feels like the wolf version of the archetype of the kind of engagement level he has. Sort of like the acts like cares but doesn't quadrant of the monte diamond except like not exactly there's a lot of ways in which that's not a perfect analogy, but it feels like his content level is above his engagement level in a sort of forced way maybe.
About Monsieur Viseur (Visor, might as well evade the modkill),
Its not that I realised my thread position was dangerous ( :curtain: ), rather I realised its dangerous to spearhead his chop while I am not certain he is wolfing and other skilled people voiced his villagery. Playing the team game is likely to yield better results for the village.
Also the Vanta kill might be an attempt to frame him. (I do not think w!Visor fear kill Vanta because they have wolfed together). His posting is better also, more in line with his village game, collaborative etc.
okay what even is this post?
So like Visor is a dangerous push because others think he's villagery
But then you also think he's villagery? Which is it? I have been wondering this ever since you said as such like day 1 about Visor, I brought it up like today and thought Jan or you said the thing and here you are being unspecific about it again
something something Vanta kill was a frame
Why can't Vanta just be killed because Vanta is right? I mean the fear kill side note thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me, like I feel like that gives more incentive for Visor to kill Vanta, since Vanta """should""" know Visor's wolf meta because they have wolved together (not necessarily something I agree with btw but). Like that makes sense to me from like a level 0 standpoint, but here you are playing chess when you could play checkers.
idk if i'm being harsh as this is just kind of my snap reaction to seeing this post isolated without other context
oh we got another day???
no deadline is in like 2 hours
My keyboard has died so y'all just getting phone posting
I fucking hate wireless shit, give me cords anyday
anyway, that's sort of all there really is to talk about as far as specific posts go for jan.
generally speaking he just sort of feels like the wolfy type of disengagement for this gamestate. Not too sure how to explain that, specifically. Archetypically just feels like the wolf version of the archetype of the kind of engagement level he has. Sort of like the acts like cares but doesn't quadrant of the monte diamond except like not exactly there's a lot of ways in which that's not a perfect analogy, but it feels like his content level is above his engagement level in a sort of forced way maybe.
I can agree with a level of disengagement
My keyboard has died so y'all just getting phone posting
I fucking hate wireless shit, give me cords anyday
i refuse to buy any wireless bullshit for this exact reason
earbuds, keyboard, mouse, whatever
no thanks
(well for earbuds its also that i don't feel like paying 10x as much for something i would probably lose half of constantly that has minimal benefit gained at best but)
i refuse to buy any wireless bullshit for this exact reason
earbuds, keyboard, mouse, whatever
no thanks
Same
My wife is the opposite she hates cords lol
It's a source of constant jokes in our house :p
i mean Sunbae sort of answered my question, the why part of why they seem to suspect Rask as of now, but not what exactly made them switch from leaning town on Rask to outright making a huge scumcase on him
It's honestly probably towny though, but I am saying that because I like to keep my story straight as mafia and i change my mind on a whim as villager more often then mafia
I can agree with a level of disengagement
yeah it's like... It's sort of weird to describe because generally the like collective level of engagement in this game, by some definition, isn't giga high obviously. But I think like generally many people itt when they are posting and displaying thinking about the game actually seem to care about solving it and I don't... Get that from jan really, it feels just kinda forced and performed.
(well for earbuds its also that i don't feel like paying 10x as much for something i would probably lose half of constantly that has minimal benefit gained at best but)
tell me about it, i lost my wireless earbud case on a bus and now i cant charge them D:
wouldnt have been a big deal if they weren't like 100 dollars
Same
My wife is the opposite she hates cords lol
It's a source of constant jokes in our house :p
funny how that works out
i love cords
i used to play around with my earbud cords and like spin one of them idly on a regular basis
i had that habit for years and years but i kicked it in the hopes of not having to replace them every 6 months
jokes on me i still have to replace them every 6 months but the reflex of playing with them is gone lmao
i'm not interested in having to charge my earbuds/keyboard/mouse/etcetera or to have it stop working if my internet flickers lol
wouldnt have been a big deal if they weren't like 100 dollars
yeah see my earbuds are like 20 bucks
i mean i have to replace them like twice a year but if i accidentally cut them with fabric shears absentmindedly while watching redzone or something its not that huge of a loss
Vote: Jan
for now. Was mainly thinking this or Maple, but at least Maple has genuine feeling moments here and there today while i recall Maple endgaming as wolf like last year on here or a couple years ago?
feels like another shrug today
with jan however i can see the angle that maybe they would be posting more after finally randing town after a wolf streak
but if it ends up flipping town it feels like a wasted day, knowing visor/sunbaes alignments would help me the most ngl
Visor has really talked about wanting to read Ender but then like not reading ender like twice today, in the second post being like "Ender is tomorrow's problem"
feels like another shrug today
with jan however i can see the angle that maybe they would be posting more after finally randing town after a wolf streak
but if it ends up flipping town it feels like a wasted day, knowing visor/sunbaes alignments would help me the most ngl
if it ends up coming to a battle of shrugs i might go maple over jan, not super high confidence on that though part of me is worried i might be tying myself to jan here if they flip wolf lol
feels like another shrug today
with jan however i can see the angle that maybe they would be posting more after finally randing town after a wolf streak
but if it ends up flipping town it feels like a wasted day, knowing visor/sunbaes alignments would help me the most ngl
i said to myself earlier this dayphase that it felt like visors alignment would ripple into a lot of information if i could figure it out confidently
but i somewhat think he is a villa i don't want to kill him lmao
its def kinda awkward like i don't want to just shrug kill i do stare at the jan and logic down at the end of the postcounts whenever i go open an iso and am like are we really just killing the lowest posters is this what i want to keep doing but i actually do think jan is actively wolfy so like.. here we are!
feels like another shrug today
with jan however i can see the angle that maybe they would be posting more after finally randing town after a wolf streak
but if it ends up flipping town it feels like a wasted day, knowing visor/sunbaes alignments would help me the most ngl
i cant lie bro, you are wolfy today :thumbsdown:
Sunbae did explain cape you gotta read the post again lol
i don't really have all that strong of a read at all on maple but there's enough sort of slight flashes of maybe thinking about the game in an uninformed way that like
mmh
just kinda gth v idrk how to explain nor do i really want to try rn lol
still iffy on sunbaes solving ngl
i appreciate the work they put in, but they never seem to be here at eod which is the most important point of the day, that being said it could be timezones. but yeah just hard for me to digest that theyre doing a lot of solving but none of it really translates to impacting how the day plays out which makes me wonder if its for show
also im bothered by their rask/ladd/me solve feels kinda powerwolfy, i know its 1/3 at best with ladd being the only possible wolf there and if ladd is town then its 0/3.. i dont get how sunbae can supposedly find visor town but is struggling to find rask. obv skill issue on my part if im wrong on rask but i dont feel like i am atm
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VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
4JanCape90 (19 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), Lissa (38 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866969&viewfull=1#post2053866969)), Visor (31 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867072&viewfull=1#post2053867072)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
2LissaJan (6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866952&viewfull=1#post2053866952)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
1Visorwaza (25 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866850&viewfull=1#post2053866850))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
2Not VotingEnderWiggin (12), Maple (20)
40 minutes
oh jan is still on 6 posts
eh maybe yall are right then
EnderWiggin
08-15-2025, 13:24
I completely dozed off while trying to catch up lolme.
Vote: Lissa
still iffy on sunbaes solving ngl
i appreciate the work they put in, but they never seem to be here at eod which is the most important point of the day, that being said it could be timezones. but yeah just hard for me to digest that theyre doing a lot of solving but none of it really translates to impacting how the day plays out which makes me wonder if its for show
also im bothered by their rask/ladd/me solve feels kinda powerwolfy, i know its 1/3 at best with ladd being the only possible wolf there and if ladd is town then its 0/3.. i dont get how sunbae can supposedly find visor town but is struggling to find rask. obv skill issue on my part if im wrong on rask but i dont feel like i am atm
i mean its a like 8am eod for sunbae
i think the thing about impacting how the day plays out is like clearly a matter of the janky threadflow of this game and the fact that the eod is quite awkward for a number of ppl
really squinting at that line of thought
visor town and not rask town isn't a crazy line to me from how he talked about it/came to it
still iffy on sunbaes solving ngl
i appreciate the work they put in, but they never seem to be here at eod which is the most important point of the day, that being said it could be timezones. but yeah just hard for me to digest that theyre doing a lot of solving but none of it really translates to impacting how the day plays out which makes me wonder if its for show
also im bothered by their rask/ladd/me solve feels kinda powerwolfy, i know its 1/3 at best with ladd being the only possible wolf there and if ladd is town then its 0/3.. i dont get how sunbae can supposedly find visor town but is struggling to find rask. obv skill issue on my part if im wrong on rask but i dont feel like i am atm
man this post kinda stinks ngl
i know rask talked about uncharitable earlier but this is the definition of it
so waza
1. do you have an updated Sunbae read? I didn't like the one you had about how convoluted sunbae's reasonings were to call me town #441 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866920&viewfull=1#post2053866920). Honestly, Sunbae has been a player that seems to have put in a good deal of effort today and you should know that a lot of people have trouble finding me. I think solving Sunbae is a wolfy suggestion right now
2. #443 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866922&viewfull=1#post2053866922) was pretty awkward ngl
3. I don't like the pressing of Visor #431 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866910&viewfull=1#post2053866910)
4. Your posting felt uncurious today
5. #344 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866810&viewfull=1#post2053866810) is just kind of words, it's like you are being forced at gunpoint to give something
highest and lowest poster is a funny set of wagons
I completely dozed off while trying to catch up lolme.
Vote: Lissa
why lissa now?
where are you at on jan?
i will say 9am eods is hilarious given its what i had in aus when i played with americans, and now i am in america and i still have it LOL
man this post kinda stinks ngl
i know rask talked about uncharitable earlier but this is the definition of it
yeah i was a little weirded already about the post about jan being a shrug/wanting something with more info, but that post is like... the eod influence thing is wild
just kinda is disregarding a lot of realities of the like dynamic and flow of this game
Visor has really talked about wanting to read Ender but then like not reading ender like twice today, in the second post being like "Ender is tomorrow's problem"
you're gonna love it when i say this morning that ender is tomorrows problem :P
i will say 9am eods is hilarious given its what i had in aus when i played with americans, and now i am in america and i still have it LOL
come full circle ig lmao
yeah i was a little weirded already about the post about jan being a shrug/wanting something with more info, but that post is like... the eod influence thing is wild
just kinda is disregarding a lot of realities of the like dynamic and flow of this game
i mean it is straight up just downplaying all the work sunbae has done because it isn't at eod
and because sunbae is wolfreading waza
super self focused
waza/jan w/w :curtain:
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VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
4JanCape90 (20 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), Lissa (42 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866969&viewfull=1#post2053866969)), Visor (36 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867072&viewfull=1#post2053867072)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
3LissaEnderWiggin (13 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Jan (6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866952&viewfull=1#post2053866952)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
1Visorwaza (26 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866850&viewfull=1#post2053866850))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
i mean it is straight up just downplaying all the work sunbae has done because it isn't at eod
and because sunbae is wolfreading waza
super self focused
waza/jan w/w :curtain:
yeah it's bizarrely uncharitable. sunbae has like the most visible thought out of anyone itg
the post about jan def could be partnered
i'm reminded of the wolf game of his that i just played against him, where he got on me for... not being captainy after i'd recently talked about starting a town captain arc and led some itas/eods... halfway through d1 when i'd been in thread for like 3 hours max. i remember that game i kept finding myself thinking that he was asking questions that were just a bit off/weird/disconnected from the context reality of events idk i don't remember any other specific ones but just a bit odd of questions etc
man this post kinda stinks ngl
i know rask talked about uncharitable earlier but this is the definition of it
How is it uncharitable ?
I’m not even saying he’s hard outed or anything, just saying what bothers me
yeah it's bizarrely uncharitable. sunbae has like the most visible thought out of anyone itg
the post about jan def could be partnered
i'm reminded of the wolf game of his that i just played against him, where he got on me for... not being captainy after i'd recently talked about starting a town captain arc and led some itas/eods... halfway through d1 when i'd been in thread for like 3 hours max. i remember that game i kept finding myself thinking that he was asking questions that were just a bit off/weird/disconnected from the context reality of events idk i don't remember any other specific ones but just a bit odd of questions etc
Vote:lissa
Not sure if u would shade me rn as a wolf but also I just wanna double down in visor sunbae or u as my preferred flips
I'm a little mixed on EnderWiggin, like he has moments that feel natural, but then moments that feel kinda wolfy from like a static reads POV
but like #424 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866903&viewfull=1#post2053866903) into #425 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866904&viewfull=1#post2053866904) could be like towny n stuff in like a "hey they looked back and thats cool" kind of way
vote: waza
this village aint big enough for two australians
does ladd still have knights' vote lmao
vote: waza
this village aint big enough for two australians
What about ender :laugh4:
does ladd still have knights' vote lmao
idr if knights has even posted today
hes still a treestump until day end iirc
vote: waza
this village aint big enough for two australians
vote: waza
idrk if it is actually possible for this to even happen today at this point
What about ender :laugh4:
LOL
my bad ender :sweatdrop:
idr if knights has even posted today
hes still a treestump until day end iirc
he hasn't idt, but does that make the vote go away/does he have to reassign it idr
it's not showing on the vc
does ladd still have knights' vote lmao
i believe that was only a day 1 thing
vote: waza
idrk if it is actually possible for this to even happen today at this point
Hmmm nah
Vote:visor
vote: waza
idrk if it is actually possible for this to even happen today at this point
prob not
but i figure why not poke it given its only us here at eod
prob not
but i figure why not poke it given its only us here at eod
indeed
Hmmm nah
Vote:visor
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prob not
but i figure why not poke it given its only us here at eod
Lissa do u really think visor sunbae and ladd can be pure and the wolves decide to n1 the slot visor called the biggest ml bait in the lobby?
theknightsofneeee has died! They were:
Kylo Ren
You are Third Party. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated, when a player dies due to poison, or when your boyfriend yeets a wolf.
12 hours into Day 1, or as soon as you either message the host to activate this ability or post the complete lyrics to your hit song “Banana Time” in the game thread, you will die and the following will happen immediately:
- 3 players at random receive a Parting Gift
- 4 players at random receive a Poisonous Bomb
- 1 player at random receives an Antidote
When Parting Gifts are distributed, they are also assigned a cycle between 1-3, one for each cycle.
You do not learn who receives what. Bomb and Antidote recipients are not notified of having received a Bomb or Antidote.
After dying, you remain in the game as a Treestump until the end of Day 2 or until you achieve a win condition, whichever comes first. After dying, for the remainder of Day 1, you may choose a player to be your boyfriend to make them a double voter. You may change boyfriends at any time by posting Boyfriend: player, bolded and on a separate line.
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Parting Gift
On Cycle X, you may choose a player during the Day to form a neighborhood with them on and for that Night. You also give them a gun, which they may use to kill you that Night only.
Poisonous Bomb
You reflexively poison anyone who kills you, unless they have an Antidote.
They remain in the game as a Treestump.
yep i am right, and knights is dying after today
knights has been that sailor moon meme today, you know the top hat guy thing meme, idk i dont know that much about the anime
oh ye the vote was just a d1 thing i conflated it with the treestumping
lissa has more posts than me wtf lol
vote: jan
yep i am right, and knights is dying after today
knights has been that sailor moon meme today, you know the top hat guy thing meme, idk i dont know that much about the anime
https://a.pinatafarm.com/474x934/2711eef4a6/my-job-here-is-done.jpg
Lissa do u really think visor sunbae and ladd can be pure and the wolves decide to n1 the slot visor called the biggest ml bait in the lobby?
not really sure
but i'm not particularly interested in killing someone i find decently villagery based purely off that kinda spec atp lmao
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3LissaEnderWiggin (13 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Jan (6 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866952&viewfull=1#post2053866952)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
3JanCape90 (23 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), Visor (43 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867108&viewfull=1#post2053867108)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
1Visorwaza (31 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867101&viewfull=1#post2053867101))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1wazaLissa (49 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867097&viewfull=1#post2053867097))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
15 minutes
I have returned.
To make it easier, I have the ability to create a hood, and if I am not killed today, I will use it to create a hood tonight and whoever I have picked can judge accordingly.
Not outting my pick to keep wolves in the dark.
obviously i will continue to look deeply into all options including them as the game continues but right now i just want to kill the wolfy player who is probably a wolf
vote: jan
I have returned.
To make it easier, I have the ability to create a hood, and if I am not killed today, I will use it to create a hood tonight and whoever I have picked can judge accordingly.
Not outting my pick to keep wolves in the dark.
Damn bro lurking this whole time just to claim with 10 mins to go is really wolfy lol
Guess I got an uphill battle tomorrow
Parting Gift
On Cycle X, you may choose a player during the Day to form a neighborhood with them on and for that Night. You also give them a gun, which they may use to kill you that Night only.
Poisonous Bomb
You reflexively poison anyone who kills you, unless they have an Antidote.
pew pew
EnderWiggin why did you choose to vote me over jan there
lets be real though: theres nobody who has actually posted anything strongly alignment indicative. that reads list i posted is where my heads at but i wouldnt be shocked if it was upside down. the only semi-strong thoughts i have are:
- I do not think the way Cape used Enders put to vote Manti is something wolfCape does while teamed with Ender or Manti in that game state. I also do not thing the interactions between Cape/you and Cape/Lissa are very w/w. Which is leaning me to villa read Cape at the moment due to the few teammates i find possible. It does not mean Cape is lock town but if Cape is a wolf I think its with Ladd/Waza/Rask and, well thats a smaller section than the alternative.
- I have not really moved from my Waza read (I have specifically seen Waza do the "ill be your double voter" thing as both alignments so that needle isn't moved) but I also feel like day 2 is a day I need to actually poke/prod more on interactions/posts than just d1 vibes of things being more likely to be wolf than v. So Im giving space.
- I kind of dislike Lissa's overall body of work but I'll get more into that tonight also
hmm i was gonna say something but
think my current start for suspects is in <waza, lissa, visor, cape> but not lissa/cape nor visor/cape so my interest there is significantly less than the previous 3
if cape is w, its not with maple or ender either so cape w worlds are like cape/waza/ladd/rask? but i have small v reads on ladd and rask
perhaps i should just call cape a villager :toilet:
i forget this site doesnt like carrots. its in waza/lissa/visor/cape
this whole day 1 thing for Sunbae is kinda bad
I don't have a lot to add right now. Caught up on a skim and Lissa admitting that her original quote of me is not a good fit for her theory, while also attacking me, saying that she took it out of context, is funny.
Just words.
hmm i was gonna say something but
this whole day 1 thing for Sunbae is kinda bad
how so?
do you feel lucky jan? well do ya?
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Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 634
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
4JanCape90 (24 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), Lissa (53 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867113&viewfull=1#post2053867113)), Visor (44 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867108&viewfull=1#post2053867108)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
3LissaEnderWiggin (13 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Jan (8 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866952&viewfull=1#post2053866952)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
1Visorwaza (32 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867101&viewfull=1#post2053867101))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
before all that i was a part of sunbae's towncore
My villas right now are Jan, Ladd, Vanta, Cape
just a lot of flippancy around me
Damn bro lurking this whole time just to claim with 10 mins to go is really wolfy lol
Guess I got an uphill battle tomorrow
Not really. I had our cat vomit 10 times in 30 minutes, and we had to go to the vet. Just got back. Sometimes life happens.
before all that i was a part of sunbae's towncore
just a lot of flippancy around me
from memory sunbae has pretty consistently v read you?
i dont get your read here
I don't have a lot to add right now. Caught up on a skim and Lissa admitting that her original quote of me is not a good fit for her theory, while also attacking me, saying that she took it out of context, is funny.
Just words.
i didn't take it out of context, the context was clearly a part of the read
i realized later the categorization wasn't a perfect fit for moreso other nuances than context
before all that i was a part of sunbae's towncore
just a lot of flippancy around me
sunbae was still villa reading you, he put you in his higher villa tier the post after the carrots post
do you feel lucky jan? well do ya?
https://media1.tenor.com/m/M6J4oQsdESQAAAAd/dodging-the-bullet-gun-donatello.gif
how so?
It reads to me as a lot of superficial solving, like sunbae has only been reading me off of interactions with others after a certain point? Despite Sunbae seemingly being able to find me towny otherwise around the start of day 1
Vote: waza
pick me jan
I will not pick someone that I don't even think is town. Sorry.
EnderWiggin
08-15-2025, 13:54
why lissa now?
where are you at on jan?
4/2 felt boring 4/3 might be more exciting idk.
I will not pick someone that I don't even think is town. Sorry.
Pick rask tbh
its def mechanically ~optimal to go not jan but pretty sure we don't have the votes to move and have it go over instead of me unfortunately lmao
Pick rask tbh
Rask is in my pool of 3 ppl.
I already made my choice.
If I survive I have time to talk in discord and make my case .. or just die or both.
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Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 649
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
3LissaEnderWiggin (14 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Jan (12 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866952&viewfull=1#post2053866952)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
3JanCape90 (26 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), Lissa (56 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867113&viewfull=1#post2053867113)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
1wazaVisor (47 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867127&viewfull=1#post2053867127))
1Visorwaza (33 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867101&viewfull=1#post2053867101))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
EnderWiggin
08-15-2025, 13:56
LOL
my bad ender :sweatdrop:
Somehow this hurts more than all the accusations of wolfiness.
its def mechanically ~optimal to go not jan but pretty sure we don't have the votes to move and have it go over instead of me unfortunately lmao
we have at least 5 ppl around right now. we have all the power if we find a wagon.
unless ender also moves to waza lol
sunbae was still villa reading you, he put you in his higher villa tier the post after the carrots post
yeah but Sunbae was still like... putting me in wolf worlds, which is strange as Sunbae sure wasn't doing that with either of Jan or Ender.
FMPOV I don't like it so I am gonna say there is a mafia in waza/Sunbae
Visor I look forward to our battle tomorrow between the only two aussies in the lobby
the only 2 ppl not around on me or lissa are rask and ladd. everyone else is ehre and cans witch, I think.
vote: waza
got 2 posts left so holding to move as needed prob
unless ender also moves to waza lol
lol starting to think ur town again but ur defending all the people I want rip
EnderWiggin
08-15-2025, 13:58
EnderWiggin why did you choose to vote me over jan there
I have a vendetta against cats.
Lissa we probs v/v don’t vote me
Lissa seems like a really bad vote right now, like I think i'd vote quite literally everyone else in this lobby (besides self) over Lissa
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Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 659
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
3LissaEnderWiggin (16 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Jan (14 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866952&viewfull=1#post2053866952)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
2wazaLissa (58 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867143&viewfull=1#post2053867143)), Visor (47 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867127&viewfull=1#post2053867127))
2JanCape90 (27 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
1Visorwaza (35 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867101&viewfull=1#post2053867101))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
2 minutes
If we don't kill Jan and I don't really want to kill lissa
I will accept maple ender or waza
If we don't kill Jan and I don't really want to kill lissa
I will accept maple ender or waza
the only one i would kill in those is maybe maple.
If we don't kill Jan and I don't really want to kill lissa
I will accept maple ender or waza
Vote:maple
i don't reaaaally want to go maple but would obv move there to live lmao
im ~alright with ender
Can’t believe I’m compromising with someone I think could be wolf lol
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Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 667
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
2LissaEnderWiggin (16 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
2wazaLissa (59 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867143&viewfull=1#post2053867143)), Visor (48 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867127&viewfull=1#post2053867127))
2JanCape90 (28 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867065&viewfull=1#post2053867065)), ladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
1Maplewaza (37 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867152&viewfull=1#post2053867152))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1VisorJan (16 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867150&viewfull=1#post2053867150))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
EnderWiggin
08-15-2025, 14:00
Can’t believe I’m compromising with someone I think could be wolf lol
What about a friend?
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Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 673
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
3wazaCape90 (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867157&viewfull=1#post2053867157)), Lissa (59 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867143&viewfull=1#post2053867143)), Visor (48 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867127&viewfull=1#post2053867127))
2LissaEnderWiggin (17 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
2MapleJan (17 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867156&viewfull=1#post2053867156)), waza (39 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867152&viewfull=1#post2053867152))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1Janladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
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Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 675
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
3wazaCape90 (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867157&viewfull=1#post2053867157)), Lissa (59 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867143&viewfull=1#post2053867143)), Visor (48 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867127&viewfull=1#post2053867127))
2LissaEnderWiggin (17 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867077&viewfull=1#post2053867077)), Raskolnikov (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866934&viewfull=1#post2053866934))
2Janladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866950&viewfull=1#post2053866950)), waza (40 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867152&viewfull=1#post2053867152))
1MapleJan (17 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867156&viewfull=1#post2053867156))
1RaskolnikovSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866885&viewfull=1#post2053866885))
1Not VotingMaple (20)
waza dies.
waza was:
Town Choice Paralyzed Antidote Giver
You are Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
You start the game with the item: Kylo Ren Plushy. (It does nothing.)
During pregame, provide the host with a list of 5 players and select 1 of those players to be your preferred choice. You will give an Antidote to a player on the list chosen at random by the game host. If your preferred choice is not selected with the first rand, the target will be randed again.
On Nights 1 and 2, provide the host with a list of 3 players. You will give an Antidote to a random player on the list. On Night 1, you can choose to give up your action that Night but gain the ability to choose a single target on Night 2.
Your targets will not be notified of having received an Antidote. You will not be told who you targeted. If you do not submit any targets you will give an Antidote to a random player, or if a list is incomplete players will be added to it at random until it is complete.
At the time of their death, waza had the following item:
Kylo Ren Plushy
theknightsofneeee leaves the game. (They may still achieve their win condition.)
It's Night 2. Send in actions at least 1 hour before deadline!
PSA, thread summary is in OP if you want to check flips at a later point
Cape died. They were:
Town Vanilla
You are Town. You have no abilities. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
At the time of their death, Cape had the following items:
Poisonous Bomb
You reflexively poison anyone who kills you, unless they have an Antidote.
Jan died. They were:
Mafia Vanilla
You are Mafia. You have no abilities. You win when your team reaches parity with Town and no other threats to your team remain.
At the time of their death, Jan had the following items:
Parting Gift
On Cycle 2, you may choose a player during the Day to form a neighborhood with them on and for that Night. You also give them a gun, which they may use to kill you that Night only.
Day 3 begins!
Livelist
Maple
Visor
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
ladd
Lissa
EnderWiggin
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Day 3 - Votes from post 680 through 675
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
7Not VotingEnderWiggin (0), Lissa (0), Maple (0), Raskolnikov (0), Sunbae (0), Visor (0), ladd (0)
gm
kinda surprised jan just didn't hold and claim to have used on the kill. high risk high reward ig
was about to swap to maple when waza swapped to jan and was just kinda stunlocked for the like 15 seconds i had to think about it after that. would've 3way tied it if i still moved to me/waza/maple and that was hard to pull trigger on in that short of window honestly lol. shoulda done it but
well i mean i shoulda just swapped back to jan but i didn't have the presence of mind to realize that was what i should do
anyway
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:08
Gemma: lol my solve
(At eod I had cape wolf and jan villa. Gj)
Sorry waza, I saw your post
And thought "or what"
And didn't realise that you actually meant pr
My bad
Jan didn't target me sadly
Any of y'all?
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:14
Visor, still thinking lissa is villa?
If so write a bit about it :p
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:15
Jan didn't target me sadly
Any of y'all?
Not me (alleluya, I prolly dont kill him)
Visor, still thinking lissa is villa?
If so write a bit about it :p
if you still think i am a wolf after that you are the one that needs to write about it
Visor, still thinking lissa is villa?
If so write a bit about it :p
A bit about it
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:18
if you still think i am a wolf after that you are the one that needs to write about it
I do think that wagon wasnt pure and lissa has more wolf equity than you. Asking for a sanity check mind you
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:19
I do think that wagon wasnt pure and lissa has more wolf equity than you. Asking for a sanity check mind you
Lmao i thought Visor wrote that post
I am a mess this game, deal with it
I do think that wagon wasnt pure and lissa has more wolf equity than you. Asking for a sanity check mind you
why are you responding to me in third person
anyway brother i built that wagon
(well as much as it can be said anyone built that wagon or any wagon in this game)
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:21
if you still think i am a wolf after that you are the one that needs to write about it
Walk me through it I guess
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:23
(well as much as it can be said anyone built that wagon or any wagon in this game)
Precisaly, why are u claiming some town cred for it then?
Walk me through it I guess
its pretty simple, i hard pushed jan when people were all over the place and had a number of different ways they were interested in going, this is not a gamestate/thread landscape where i'd have like... bussed, straight up hellbussed, instead of... just... trying to get a villager killed and going to mylo
+ jan after starting the game village reading me had an awkward flip back onto me when i had an issue with one of his posts
+ jan's like the only meaningful wolfread i've had this entire game bar the last like 10 minutes of last eod and that's, just, not how i wolf (to be clear i don't never bus, i play the gamestate i'm in but this is just never how things would have looked if we were w/w lol)
but mainly i think i should just be fairly clearly a villager after that eod and jans flip
Which wagon wasn't pure the earlier Jan wagon? The waza wagon?
Regardless I don't think it matters
Here's some thoughts
In the world where lissa is w/w with Jan, I can definitely understand making a push there and getting one of you a little deeper especially because both got some heat
It is not able that lissa was really the biggest pusher of Jan y'day imo, to he point where she didn't really give herself many other options (stating she had no idea on the rest but Jan seemed wolf etc)
I actually stopped caring about whether she was right though in regards to her alignment as I think she really posted well in that last stint of posting
I can see a world where she had too much confidence maybe and if you make an argument along those lines I might listen but I think she posted in a way where that was the only read she really had confidence in and just put her eggs in that basket
Which again I can see how it could be w w
But just the way she was posting at that eod (also her reaction to waza too being the same as mine) just felt good to me
Caveat: lissa has changed a lot since when we played regularly
Caveat to the caveat: Yolo swaggins, she felt good
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:29
Let me think for a minute, if I clear Lissa and Visor (raisins ir thread resistance something) and jans shooter, there is just one more slot to clear.
Sounds like a plan?
Precisaly, why are u claiming some town cred for it then?
??????
Like in a game where you can't get a handle on anything you find one read you believe in and you just push it and push it
I've been there before
Ymmv
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:33
??????
I actually agree with the post u just made. Also I have integrated my reads have been sucky this game so I will just work with visor/u vv for a bit. Looks like more productive from my shoes
Where y'all at on Ladd and sunbae
I actually agree with the post u just made. Also I have integrated my reads have been sucky this game so I will just work with visor/u vv for a bit. Looks like more productive from my shoes
yeah fair enough, i just kinda stared at that post for a good minute at first after i made my other one
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:38
Lettuce work on finding a villa in maple/sunbee/ladd
Where y'all at on Ladd and sunbae
i definitely need to reread the game with the jan flip especially
sunbae has felt decently villagery posting wise but not really anything near clearing
i remember lightly village reading ladd for something d1, but honestly i dont even remember most of his posts atp
Lettuce work on finding a villa in maple/sunbee/ladd
What about ender
Imo sunbae is the most villagery out of those three by far
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:39
Why am I letting Ender apart I dunno.
Ill wait for the hoody claim before posting more nonsense
i agree sunbae is by far the most villagery out of those though, ye
but like i wouldn't call ender more villagery than sunbae at minimum yeah was also gonna ask about ender
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:43
What about ender
Imo sunbae is the most villagery out of those three by far
If i integrate sunbaes wall, make u and lissa villas, ender is a wolf and one on maple/ladd is too.
Sounds promissing. :bow:
Why am I letting Ender apart I dunno.
Ill wait for the hoody claim before posting more nonsense
rask if u are a villager u are having A Game lol
yeah at kind of like an eyeball glance thats about where i think i'd land
but ye i'm going to bed p soon i don't plan on doing that rereading /tonight/ (""""tonight"""")
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 14:45
rask if u are a villager u are having A Game lol
Lmao. I just came at thos juncture. Dvc os prolly just jokes about chief potatoe
When did I ever ask others for a read on you?
If you're gonna come for me actually quote what I did properly like.
Also Maple just latching onto the Cape omgus once Lissa fields it feels like aggro wolfin'. Like they haven't mentioned Cape despite apparently having a mini-case locked and ready to go.
Instead literally 100% of Maple's posts have been "Ender wolf" with no other nuance and then latching onto a second target once Lissa sets the tee up. (If I'm right on this it's also 99% Lissa town because that wolfy-latch-on is not w/w.)
Small footprint wolftell always feels good.
Really? So Maple doing nothing but omgusing and latching onto things isn't wolfy in the slightest?
hmm
(that maple post is not great bob)
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:01
You're welcome.
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:01
Vote: Maple
You're welcome.
you're claiming the shot?
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 15:06
Repky to the damn question Ender, f5ing is boring
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:09
you're claiming the shot?
Yes.
I was trying to find a "He dids it" Gollum gif but either I'm mis-remembering the movies or google has failed me.
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:10
Repky to the damn question Ender, f5ing is boring
Ah shit I should've gone to bed without answering.
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:11
Tbh my game is set now. We flip Maple, then I get to die at night and then I live laugh and love in dvc.
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 15:12
Maple >> ladd >> sunbae
Rideau
Yes.
I was trying to find a "He dids it" Gollum gif but either I'm mis-remembering the movies or google has failed me.
https://media.tenor.com/wxuL-DabtcEAAAAM/gollum-smeagol.gif
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:13
Also yeah Lissa is town p sure. Sorry for the intermittent sus.
to be clear
you shot him with the parting gift?
you're not a vig or anything?
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:14
I have probably given Rask too much leeway but idk if I care to dig into that lol.
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 15:14
Maple >> ladd >> sunbae
Rideau
If it ends the game u have full licence to moke post game, provided u realise the team player I am :curtain:
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 15:15
to be clear
you shot him with the parting gift?
you're not a vig or anything?
Gemma Id feel insulted ngl
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:17
to be clear
you shot him with the parting gift?
you're not a vig or anything?
I'm the omegatrackervig9000 with extra sauce and several sides of garlic aioli.
Yes I shot Jan with the gun they handed me. Tbh I'm not at all sure why they gave me the gun in the first place.
I'm the omegatrackervig9000 with extra sauce and several sides of garlic aioli.
Yes I shot Jan with the gun they handed me. Tbh I'm not at all sure why they gave me the gun in the first place.
what did he talk about in the chat?
Gemma Id feel insulted ngl
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Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 15:18
https://media.tenor.com/wxuL-DabtcEAAAAM/gollum-smeagol.gif
When u realise jetlagged Ender is a way better villager than you
When u realise jetlagged Ender is a way better villager than you
https://i.imgur.com/OKGaZUD.png
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:29
what did he talk about in the chat?
Sparknotes was like:
We talked about EOD (Jan's "theory" was that Waza was a wolf-pushed EOD vote. Pointed towards you/Lissa. I had a debate about how I thought waza is a riskier save if you were going to commit to saving Lissa. It didn't really go anywhere.)
Jan tried to pitch the point that they had correctly been reading me as town even as everyone was stopping their townreads as a reason for them being town. (Which I'll be honest was like 75% of what convinced me I needed to shoot em lol)
I tried to get them to talk about Maple (Which they kinda did? But I was unimpressed and they refused to elaborate on why they didn't find the heavy omgus-y style as potentially wolfy when Maple did basically the same thing - aka "I'm only active when people poke me and I omgus real quick to make people not be super willing to push there easily." - in the last game they wolfed.)
Then they did the whole "I'm fine dying if you can't find me. Good luck." and then didn't respond to anything further after that.
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:35
I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.
Unironically it might be Sunbae as wolf too.
Sadly. :(
EnderWiggin
08-16-2025, 15:36
Visor why were you so obsessed with me on D1 in terms of getting a full cast consensus on my posts?
Visor why were you so obsessed with me on D1 in terms of getting a full cast consensus on my posts?
honestly i just thought your entrance was weak and i was trying to get opinions before saying anything in case i influenced peoples responses
but i also know that i have misread you in recent games so i didn't want to just go all in (also because we are friends)
part of why i gave ladd such a hard time when he thought you were lock wolf and then switched
Raskolnikov
08-16-2025, 15:46
Vote: Maple
Unironically it might be Sunbae as wolf too.
Sadly. :(
nah, just a bad post that i fixed on day 2!
i think its just ladd and maple
visor, lissa seem pretty villa
rasks posts today are good
ender claimed the kill
forgive me if i do not wall today (tho i note that if its ladd and maple my conclusions were correct i just voted wrong!!!)
i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd
When u realise jetlagged Ender is a way better villager than you
this would be a very funny game of me getting carried and basically solo voting the whole game, missing eods, never voting a wolf, and winning
im hoping jetlagged ender and friends finish the carry
Nya
I'm 100% confident that lissa will defend me when she wakes up
i will say that im confused mechanically on why a wolf would ever give the gun to a villager in that situation unless they had the poison bomb, but i dont think you can know you had a poison bomb? id imagine a wolf would just give it to a wolf and be quiet about it. so theres a small part of me concerned that its a maple-esque "have a wolf kill a wolf in the night to mechanically clear them" play that we've seen in these small games, but i will cross that bridge if i come to it. hopefully its just maple/ladd
or perhaps gave it to cape, killed cape, and then had ender claim
or perhaps just gave it to the villager most likely to not kill him and it didnt work, shrug. ill worry about it if it comes up but wanted to get it out there just in case
Yeah I thought about it a bit
There's a few worlds
If w/v
Gave it to villager who is not likely to kill him, or someone they think they convince. Or possibly someone who if they do shoot, is still suspect due to the argument itself, so it doesn't actually clear them if it doesn't work
. If it works great, you survive and get an ally and probably can still get the other fella killed if you die because they didn't kill you. If you die people may suspect that it was w/w setup and still potentially kill them
If w/w
Killed to send deep, or you don't kill and try to align together or something
Banking on ppl thinking killed wolf therefore v
Jan was getting heat but he wasn't outed, and the wolves shot cape and not lissa or me so in that sense it's possible that they weren't playing for Jan to lock die
Jan did village read ender iirc and might've seen it as a way to potentially get both worlds either way
Worth thinking about
Enders posts today are ok and he responded quick enough when I asked about the chat though if he's a wolf they would've already discussed it so that's probably a moot point
What do you think of rask sunabe
his posts are still 'sloppy' to me but i do think rn that both maple and ladd have higher wolf equity
him admitting he was going to townread jan and wolfread cape - i've seen wolves do that reverse tmi stuff at SOD but rask doesn't feel like someone who would need to do that unless he is playing up the hopeless game angle and theres an earnestness to his posting this morning that has been begrudgingly, okay
i should look at d1 to see if lissa talked about jan any just for due diligence purposes but maybe later
Enders posts today are ok and he responded quick enough when I asked about the chat though if he's a wolf they would've already discussed it so that's probably a moot point
What do you think of rask sunabe
I'm trying to decide is this is a badchart.jpg read or a good observation but my initial take reading today is Rask coming in with a post about using my wall to say ender wolf and one of ladd/maple when the wolves know for a fact that ender killed jan is >>>rand villa for Rask. If rask is a wolf either Raskwolf knows villa Ender is gonna be clear so starting the day with Enderwolf makes little sense or Rask/Ender are together in one of the ploys I talked about in which case the plan is to send Ender deep and starting the day with Enderwolf makes no sense.
I also am making the note that Waza specifically thought I was wolfy in part because I couldn't get to Raskvilla and waza thought it was so obvious that it was weird I couldn't.
nah lissa is fine i think
early v read on jan, some pingy stuff that pick up on eod (i think cba to check timing) and then vote them mid d2
very blunt tone this game
holistically you could argue it is going along the line of typical wolf bus given trajectory of read but it doesnt really read that way to me, limited setup in a way that isn't super a->b in an obvious way which i like
I'm trying to decide is this is a badchart.jpg read or a good observation but my initial take reading today is Rask coming in with a post about using my wall to say ender wolf and one of ladd/maple when the wolves know for a fact that ender killed jan is >>>rand villa for Rask. If rask is a wolf either Raskwolf knows villa Ender is gonna be clear so starting the day with Enderwolf makes little sense or Rask/Ender are together in one of the ploys I talked about in which case the plan is to send Ender deep and starting the day with Enderwolf makes no sense.
I also am making the note that Waza specifically thought I was wolfy in part because I couldn't get to Raskvilla and waza thought it was so obvious that it was weird I couldn't.
i appreciate this read but i don't think its something that works for me
As for my Jan read on day 1 I poorly used an outdated method (read: probably bad to begin with but it "worked" for a while) of reading Jan where I found snarky/direct Jan to be villa Jan and when he posted a snarky reply to me (the chief post) + something about "wrong on every level" to someone else I called him a villager.
Then after fully rereading on day 2 I realized he hadn't actually posted anything I could clear him on and tossed him in my "cant clear but not part of the core wolf reads of one in ender/ladd and one in maple/rask so ill toss him here with waza/lissa" pile
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