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Welcome to Kylo Ren’s Banana Time, just one of many pinnacles in music theory.
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Rules
1. Don’t be toxic. I have zero tolerance. Personal drama is not welcome and you will be subbed or modkilled if I deem your behavior to be harmful to game health. Treat your fellow players with respect and kindness at all times. If you are unable to follow this rule in the heat of the moment, take a break and do not post in the game.
2. Deadlines are 23:00 AEDT / 15:00 CEST / 09:00 EST, 60 postcap, not lifted for EoD.
3. Day phases will last 48 hours, Night phases will last 24 hours. There will be a 24 hour pregame period. Wolves have daytalk at all times, including pregame.
4. Do not lie about real life commitments. Similarly, do not question the validity of other players’ real life commitments. If you will be inactive for a prolonged period of time, inform the game host so you can be replaced.
5. Mafia is a game of analysis. Removing a player’s ability to analyze things is against the spirit of the game. Keep references that only a handful of players would understand to a minimum. Encoded messages, hidden text, and other such methods are a no-no. Everything you have to say or not say should be clearly readable in your post by anyone.
6. You may thank posts (but do it responsibly). Do not edit your posts. Do not quote information directly from moderator communication, your role PM, private chats, or any other sources of game communication outside the main game thread. Only living players may post in the game thread. Do not post in the game thread during the Night phase, unless your role explicitly allows you to do so.
7. Your ultimate dream is to see Kylo Ren perform Banana Time live, but you will die before you manage to achieve this.
8. You may not privately communicate with anyone except the game moderator, unless you're explicitly allowed to do so by the game moderator. This includes using systems outside the scope of the game to communicate something game-related. Any game-related questions should be asked privately to the moderator. Do not talk about your conversations with the moderator in any game thread or private chat.
9. Do not use out-of-game information (such as Discord, other forum activity, other mafia activity, or real-life activity) to generate reads. Do not use out-of-game information to exert pressure or influence on this game. Do not mention out of game information in the context of explaining or speculating on a player’s alignment in this game.
10. Votes must be bolded and on a separate line using this format: Vote: player. Any votes not following this format will not be counted. You will be rewarded with frequent and accurate vote counts, thanks to benneh's Turby. :00 good, :01 bad. Votes made after modpost saying stop posting will not be counted.
11. Majority yeet disabled until YoLo, where votes will be locked. The player with the most votes at deadline will be yeeted. In the event of a tie, the yeet will be randed between the tied wagons by the game moderator.
12. Do not fake daytime activations. There may or may not be daytime abilities, but faking them will get you a Stern Warning or possibly modkilled.
13. If you believe a player is violating one of these rules by the letter, or in spirit, contact the game moderator privately. Do not address the potential violation in the thread, proceed on normally. Please try to avoid using potential rule violations as a basis for reads.
14. Keep the game fun for everyone, since that's why we're all here.
By joining this game you have signed a liability waiver stating you understand the setup will not be balanced. (I got your signature from Interpol.) The waiver doesn’t exclude you from suing me for emotional and/or psychological damage, however, so go ham.
The game is not normal, but there are no bastard mechanics.
The setup was reviewed by Dyachei who confirmed that the above is true and real. (If the game is balanced at all it’s thanks to them so if you try to sue them your arms will fall off.)
Sample Vanilla PM:
Town Vanilla
You are Town. You have no abilities. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
Players
1. Raskolnikov
2. Visor
3. Sunbae
4. ladd
5. EnderWiggin
6. theknightsofneeee
7. Vanta Black
8. Logic
9. Cape90
10. Jan
11. waza
12. Maple
13. Lissa
Thread summary
theknightsofneeee reveals as Kylo Ren (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866508&viewfull=1#post2053866508)
Cycle 1 Results (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866832&viewfull=1#post2053866832)
Cycle 2 Results (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867163&viewfull=1#post2053867163)
Cycle 3 Results (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867441&viewfull=1#post2053867441)
Cycle 4 Results (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867716&viewfull=1#post2053867716)
Postgame (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053867800&viewfull=1#post2053867800)
Role PMs going out. No more talking about the game anywhere, etc. The game is now in pregame for ~24 hours.
This game will be using Benneh's votecounter, Turby. Special thanks to Benneh!
Fixed rule 10 (formatting)
Semi-thematic filler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Pccq0DZVc
Day 1 is here
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 4
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
13Not VotingCape90 (0), EnderWiggin (0), Jan (0), Lissa (0), Logic (0), Maple (0), Raskolnikov (0), Sunbae (0), Vanta Black (0), Visor (0), ladd (0), theknightsofneeee (0), waza (0)
Idont think i have been the first to post in years
Shame on yall
Idont think i have been the first to post in years
Shame on yall
lol why u even on at this time chief
Disclaimer: imma probs be busy first few day phases of this, probs sounds very wolfy and reads will probs seem made up
Soz but not Soz
theknightsofneeee
08-10-2025, 16:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOSCASqLsE
sup
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 17:12
Wolfy poppin (sup friendos)
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 17:14
Wolfy poppout
Vote: Visor
theknightsofneeee
08-10-2025, 17:48
ladd v
waza v
raskol w
easy game
theknightsofneeee
08-10-2025, 18:47
thrilling start
Vote: Raskolnikov
I am gonna say you are a villager cause why not
And ill also say waza is a villager cause why not
Rask alreasy distancing from visor. Smart move :curtain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIhCrNIXXG8
All I've got is insane!
we wanted to let you get first ladd so you had something to be happy about before we viciously mischopped you again for the crime of being right in ways we dont understand
Ladds opener seems more or less NAI
Knights opener seems more or less NAI
My opener was more or less NAI
Rasks opener is ever so lightly rand v
Not sure what to make of knights giving a townlean on two nai openers and not the one that was actually Rand v, and ladd reciprocating with the same reads
Could mean nothing, probably does tbh, but just something do note that may come in handy later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIhCrNIXXG8
All I've got is insane!
speaking of slipknot, shout outs to the time my friend said he had an extra ticket to the slipknot concert and i get there and its the frontman of slipknot doing show for his other band stone sour. it was fine (through the glass is a good song) but that was not the vibe i was expecting
theknightsofneeee
08-10-2025, 21:15
we wanted to let you get first ladd so you had something to be happy about before we viciously mischopped you again for the crime of being right in ways we dont understand
soul read wolf
glgl sunbae
Actually nvm I’d say knights opener is more Rand v
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 21:23
I am gonna say people having so many reads is amazing. Ez game indeed
Insert the one potatoe, two potatoe gif from the Monty pythons here :curtain:
soul read wolf
glgl sunbae
ah but if i were a wolf my opener would be more villagery ergo i am a villager for being able to be soulread wolf off one post
checkers
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 21:25
Ladds opener seems more or less NAI
Knights opener seems more or less NAI
My opener was more or less NAI
Rasks opener is ever so lightly rand v
Not sure what to make of knights giving a townlean on two nai openers and not the one that was actually Rand v, and ladd reciprocating with the same reads
Could mean nothing, probably does tbh, but just something do note that may come in handy later
Exactly what I thought reading them tbh, gj.
Kindof wanna see where it goes though
God imagine if I just soulread Ladd as a villager off of two posts and was right
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 21:28
Actually nvm I’d say knights opener is more Rand v
I do think a wolf would be more cautious y.
Back to shitposting :hide:
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 21:29
Probabilities are with u Sunbae, do it.
I swear we wont tunnel u d3 for it when he flips wolf :curtain:
Probabilities are with u Sunbae, do it.
I swear we wont tunnel u d3 for it when he flips wolf :curtain:
- soulread ladd v based on 2 posts
- get lunched d1 by wolf ladd
- ???
- profit
Raskolnikov
08-10-2025, 22:02
Is there a BB tag to post the vc at leisure?
Nevertheless Ill post some gems from Benneh down the road to thank him.
theknightsofneeee
08-10-2025, 22:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EsDzjyy65I
lmao
apparently this is the flavor for the game? never heard of it before
theknightsofneeee
08-10-2025, 22:43
Lyrics of BANANA TIME
Come on and set the roof on fire,
Drop it on the floor and light it up, light it up.
Blow it up, put the volume on max,
Gonna slap jack banana make your booty crack snap [uh what].
Come on and set your butt on fire,
Bounce it off the walls and light it up light it up.
To the left then turn to the right
gonna party all night like banana time.
Banana Banana Banana Banana
Banana Banana Banana Banana, Banana TIME
Banana Banana Banana Banana
Banana Banana Banana Banana.
Truly the mozart of our time.
God imagine if I just soulread Ladd as a villager off of two posts and was right
You dont have to imagine :curtain:
waza why did you think rask opening was rand v?
You dont have to imagine :curtain:
waza why did you think rask opening was rand v?
(Correct me if wrong) but I’m under the assumption he prefers town over wolf, so he seemed at ease/relaxed to me. Very light gut vibes is what that’s based on. Alsk He seemed pretty busy last when he was wolf so I imagine if he wanted to establish an early presence this game to play a more sweaty wolf game he would have tried to fake some content or try say something to get towncrewd off - this is all assumptions though so could be wrong and hence a light read
What made u ask ladd? An rvs read is almost always gonna be based off vibes, what were u hoping to get from my answer?
Vanta Black
08-10-2025, 23:58
Okay I'm here game can start now!
Vanta Black
08-10-2025, 23:59
Idont think i have been the first to post in years
Shame on yall
town
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 00:00
lol why u even on at this time chief
Disclaimer: imma probs be busy first few day phases of this, probs sounds very wolfy and reads will probs seem made up
Soz but not Soz
Hm, wolfy excuse already, so probs town
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 00:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOSCASqLsE
sup
Hmm NAI I guess
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 00:02
Wolfy poppin (sup friendos)
Aha another wolf excuse, another likely town
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 00:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIhCrNIXXG8
All I've got is insane!
woof
I thought this started way later in the day like an hour from now
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 00:09
So much for my insta-reads. Must keep open mind.
Gonna keep my eye on Knightsofneeeeeee though
Off-topic: the public swimming pools closed today because I live in a terrible city. There should be laws about this. Public swimming pools should be open from memorial day to labor day in the USA or what's freedom for? This kind of thing brings on winter if you're not careful.
I feel like this is what happens when you get like 4 players who hate RVS to start a game lmfao
Now make that 5 people who hate rvs :D
knights
waza
ladd
rask
everyone else
vanta
Advice: NTW is not a good website theme i am noticing
I mean this website doesn't have V A P O R W A V E so is there truly a good website theme here?
Anyways time to wait to force someone to question my reads for forced engagement
oh and waza and knights should be switched in my reads but whatever
mmm put Sunbae above ladd i noticed they actually did something that's maybe alignment indicative
Lyrics of BANANA TIME
Come on and set the roof on fire,
Drop it on the floor and light it up, light it up.
Blow it up, put the volume on max,
Gonna slap jack banana make your booty crack snap [uh what].
Come on and set your butt on fire,
Bounce it off the walls and light it up light it up.
To the left then turn to the right
gonna party all night like banana time.
Banana Banana Banana Banana
Banana Banana Banana Banana, Banana TIME
Banana Banana Banana Banana
Banana Banana Banana Banana.
Truly the mozart of our time.
theknightsofneeee has died! They were:
Kylo Ren
You are Third Party. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated, when a player dies due to poison, or when your boyfriend yeets a wolf.
12 hours into Day 1, or as soon as you either message the host to activate this ability or post the complete lyrics to your hit song “Banana Time” in the game thread, you will die and the following will happen immediately:
- 3 players at random receive a Parting Gift
- 4 players at random receive a Poisonous Bomb
- 1 player at random receives an Antidote
When Parting Gifts are distributed, they are also assigned a cycle between 1-3, one for each cycle.
You do not learn who receives what. Bomb and Antidote recipients are not notified of having received a Bomb or Antidote.
After dying, you remain in the game as a Treestump until the end of Day 2 or until you achieve a win condition, whichever comes first. After dying, for the remainder of Day 1, you may choose a player to be your boyfriend to make them a double voter. You may change boyfriends at any time by posting Boyfriend: player, bolded and on a separate line.
———————————————————————
Parting Gift
On Cycle X, you may choose a player during the Day to form a neighborhood with them on and for that Night. You also give them a gun, which they may use to kill you that Night only.
Poisonous Bomb
You reflexively poison anyone who kills you, unless they have an Antidote.
They remain in the game as a Treestump.
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 46
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
1VisorRaskolnikov (7 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866469&viewfull=1#post2053866469))
11Not VotingCape90 (7), EnderWiggin (0), Jan (1), Lissa (0), Logic (0), Maple (0), Sunbae (5), Vanta Black (7), Visor (0), ladd (3), waza (4)
theknightsofneeee has died! They were:
Kylo Ren
You are Third Party. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated, when a player dies due to poison, or when your boyfriend yeets a wolf.
12 hours into Day 1, or as soon as you either message the host to activate this ability or post the complete lyrics to your hit song “Banana Time” in the game thread, you will die and the following will happen immediately:
- 3 players at random receive a Parting Gift
- 4 players at random receive a Poisonous Bomb
- 1 player at random receives an Antidote
When Parting Gifts are distributed, they are also assigned a cycle between 1-3, one for each cycle.
You do not learn who receives what. Bomb and Antidote recipients are not notified of having received a Bomb or Antidote.
After dying, you remain in the game as a Treestump until the end of Day 2 or until you achieve a win condition, whichever comes first. After dying, for the remainder of Day 1, you may choose a player to be your boyfriend to make them a double voter. You may change boyfriends at any time by posting Boyfriend: player, bolded and on a separate line.
———————————————————————
Parting Gift
On Cycle X, you may choose a player during the Day to form a neighborhood with them on and for that Night. You also give them a gun, which they may use to kill you that Night only.
Poisonous Bomb
You reflexively poison anyone who kills you, unless they have an Antidote.
They remain in the game as a Treestump.
What the fuck
theknightsofneeee
08-11-2025, 01:02
your inno child has arrived
Boyfriend: Ladd
theknightsofneeee
08-11-2025, 01:04
my only complaint is I had to do it so early i didn't have time for people to push on me for better reads
c'est la vie
God imagine if I just soulread Ladd as a villager off of two posts and was right
you are right ~75% of the time with that approach.
Not your biggest achievement, chief.
theknightsofneeee
08-11-2025, 01:37
Wait that was real?
very real
thought about coming into today claiming 3p but i'm essentially just a villager since i have to get a wolf elimed anyways
very strange role but interesting at least lol
very real
thought about coming into today claiming 3p but i'm essentially just a villager since i have to get a wolf elimed anyways
very strange role but interesting at least lol
Sooo - if we kill a villager today you get to stay for longer?
Tempting!
lol why u even on at this time chief
Disclaimer: imma probs be busy first few day phases of this, probs sounds very wolfy and reads will probs seem made up
Soz but not Soz
whats the difference between that and your regular play :curtain:
that role seems incredibly easy to win as
wish i randed that instead of voteless n1 suicidal jester, but alas
Now make that 5 people who hate rvs :D
knights
waza
ladd
rask
everyone else
vanta
first: posting a reads list this early in a chill game is wolfy
second: anime avatar of an androgynous babe? you better believe its wolfy
third: bussing your partner on page 1? :curtain:
https://i.imgur.com/m5fiQZe.png
This is how I found out Visor doesn't know what a cat is
theknightsofneeee
08-11-2025, 03:59
visor/sunbae w/w
26905
So yeah I dont really get how one is super different from another, like legit and I didn't even put effort into elaborating on any of my reads like waza has
So anyways to put effort into my reads
waza is town because I at least like the level of thought processes he's putting into his early reads (even if I kinda squint at the rask thing), and the changing mind on the knights read that waza had is classic town.
knights I was townreading for how he came out swinging immediately
sunbae's comments around ladd seemed kind of villagery, maybe superficial but meh, that's why i said above ladd top of null later on
ladd felt okay, good question pointed at waza, his beginning doesn't worry me too much that's what I will say
with Rask I felt kind of a whiplash between him saying
I am gonna say people having so many reads is amazing. Ez game indeed
Insert the one potatoe, two potatoe gif from the Monty pythons here :curtain:
and when he was replaying to waza just 2 posts after that
Exactly what I thought reading them tbh, gj.
Kindof wanna see where it goes though
that I thought could be wolfy, but like... i dunno, like the more i think about the less wolfy it is. Rask has seemed to really sponge waza.
Vanta felt like they were throwing stuff against the wall that just didn't make sense or were kinda built on wolf logic, ie the reads on waza/rask (they are essentially the same thing)
Kinda dislike Visor more after their recent comment on me
okay cool ive obvtowned myself gg go next
Vote: Visor
whats the difference between that and your regular play :curtain:
My regular play is the same but I post more :bow:
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 66
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
2VisorCape90 (12 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866528&viewfull=1#post2053866528)), Raskolnikov (7 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866469&viewfull=1#post2053866469))
11Not VotingEnderWiggin (0), Jan (4), Lissa (0), Logic (0), Maple (1), Sunbae (6), Vanta Black (7), Visor (4), ladd (3), waza (5)
(Correct me if wrong) but I’m under the assumption he prefers town over wolf, so he seemed at ease/relaxed to me. Very light gut vibes is what that’s based on. Alsk He seemed pretty busy last when he was wolf so I imagine if he wanted to establish an early presence this game to play a more sweaty wolf game he would have tried to fake some content or try say something to get towncrewd off - this is all assumptions though so could be wrong and hence a light read
What made u ask ladd? An rvs read is almost always gonna be based off vibes, what were u hoping to get from my answer?
Alrighty thx
Just seemed super nai to me cause i think they do it like every game
Vanta felt like they were throwing stuff against the wall that just didn't make sense or were kinda built on wolf logic, ie the reads on waza/rask (they are essentially the same thing)
Ngl chief not a big fan of this read
Why do u think vanta reads on rask/waza were built on wolf logic?
Cape seems town
Idk if I agree with his takes I didn’t think about it deeply enough
Is Ladd clear I didn’t read knights role properly but someone implied he was
Alrighty thx
Just seemed super nai to me cause i think they do it like every game
I made a small mental note on this one because I do find that giving a quick read on a player by directly comparing them to a recent game without much more thought than surface level is >rand w, especially when the one being compared was an outlier. Like in this case Rask was literally AFK last time so it's not as if he'd have some "ugh, did bad now gotta show them I got it still" feeling randing wolf in this one imo but it's a pretty easy read to make that sounds good and like you're thinking in depth if wolf.
It's one of those trends I've noticed over time but never really pursue much so I'm interested to see if it holds here.
Cape seems town
Idk if I agree with his takes I didn’t think about it deeply enough
Is Ladd clear I didn’t read knights role properly but someone implied he was
no i dont think so. its just who knights picked and if ladd chops a wolf knights wins
Cape seems town
Idk if I agree with his takes I didn’t think about it deeply enough
Is Ladd clear I didn’t read knights role properly but someone implied he was
Nah
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 07:25
Tbh I made a small note about ladd after their first post.
Ill reveal whats on it later :curtain:
Amazing role Gemma lol.
I didnt like the push on Cape from Visor. Not sure this read will stick but like Id describe the push as "lazy". Dunno, we will see
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 07:26
no i dont think so. its just who knights picked and if ladd chops a wolf knights wins
Doubled Ladds vote if I read that right too
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 07:27
I like my vote where it is, but Jan could use some hehe.
my super smash bros trauma is peeking its head out again at all of the posts calling someone chief
spicy.
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 07:32
Well okay I guess I don't have to keep an eye on Knights after all.
Wild role there.
sup friends (masculine sup)
rask seems kinda villagery, also maybe cape
that knights role lmao
my super smash bros trauma is peeking its head out again at all of the posts calling someone chief
spicy.
sup chief
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 07:42
So anyways to put effort into my reads
...
Vanta felt like they were throwing stuff against the wall that just didn't make sense [YES]or were kinda built on wolf logic [NO], ie the reads on waza/rask (they are essentially the same thing)
Saying (essentially) "this looks wolfy but intentionally so, therefore it's probably more likely to be town" is...wolf logic?
Well it is not. Trust me!
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 07:43
Oh good another cat.
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 07:44
sup chief
Trying this again, with quote.
Oh good another cat.
Ngl chief not a big fan of this read
Why do u think vanta reads on rask/waza were built on wolf logic?
Looking back I think I was taking some of their reads a bit too at face value.
Their reads on waza/rask are things I could see, like they are reading level 0 wolfy things as towny right? It's just that I have seen wolves form reads like that before early game is all, and it's more often them then town.
I think the knights comment could be wolfy where vanta was mentioning keeping an eye on him, this was before the reveal. I think wolves would be more adamant to voice light suspicion on someone like that in that manner, though you could say I fundamentally did the same thing to Vanta so...
okay my brain is goop, im prob gonna run it down this one chat
[QUOTE=Raskolnikov;2053866538]Tbh I made a small note about ladd after their first post.
Ill reveal whats on it later :curtain:/QUOTE]
I'm gonna light tr this
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 08:23
Is there a BB tag to post the vc at leisure?
Nevertheless Ill post some gems from Benneh down the road to thank him.
This is a good question. The answer is probably "no" but if there was an answer I missed it. But yay vote counter.
waza is probably a villager, cape too maybe
vote:jan
Whynot.jpg
I made a small mental note on this one because I do find that giving a quick read on a player by directly comparing them to a recent game without much more thought than surface level is >rand w, especially when the one being compared was an outlier. Like in this case Rask was literally AFK last time so it's not as if he'd have some "ugh, did bad now gotta show them I got it still" feeling randing wolf in this one imo but it's a pretty easy read to make that sounds good and like you're thinking in depth if wolf.
It's one of those trends I've noticed over time but never really pursue much so I'm interested to see if it holds here.
Fwiw i think you are conpletely right on it being a rand w thing in general (i def have even recent of examples of wolves doing it)
Waza is kind of a playstyle thing for him i feel tho? We ll see post game lmao
no i dont think so. its just who knights picked and if ladd chops a wolf knights wins
Oh LOL that’s funny
Esp more if ladd ends up being a wolf (to clarify this isn’t a read )
okay my brain is goop, im prob gonna run it down this one chat
I’ll join ya
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 92
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2VisorCape90 (14 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866528&viewfull=1#post2053866528)), Raskolnikov (10 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866469&viewfull=1#post2053866469))
2Janladd (9 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866553&viewfull=1#post2053866553))
9Not VotingEnderWiggin (0), Jan (4), Lissa (2), Logic (0), Maple (2), Sunbae (9), Vanta Black (12), Visor (4), waza (8)
Vanta is probably the most commonly miskilled player here (after taffy), cape plays here with regularity and knows this and knows that vanta will inevitably get heat because they don't post in a way that people typically find villagery (Regardless of vantas alignment)
A basic level of villager self awareness should understand this and even though they may find some early stuff from vanta wolfy, given the fact this is an extremely common miskill you just let it sit for a bit, because the odds are that you're not even reading into the right things and you can give them more rope to hang themself without ruining the measurement by interfering
it just strikes me as something done to do something in that if you already have that assumption, you just throw down a push early and provide some future benefit to both of you when one of you inevitably flips
I don't like making w/w reads this early with any seriousness but this just says to me w/w
Ymmv
Amazing lmao
Fwiw i think you are conpletely right on it being a rand w thing in general (i def have even recent of examples of wolves doing it)
Waza is kind of a playstyle thing for him i feel tho? We ll see post game lmao
ladd seems a little off, could be nothing but yeh
so if i understand knights wincon depends on ladd finding a wolf today? if thats the case i feel like ladds reaction to the info feels kinda not right
idk i feel like if someone just banked their entire wincon a few minutes into the day upon me finding a wolf in a more chill thread with not much to dig into i personally feel like i would experience some pressure and my reaction probably wouldnt be the one ladd had, as wolf i would probs find it funny and react more similar to what ladd did. i'm obv projecting here so it could just be a personality thing
secondly is that he's using "lmao" much more than im ever used to lol. think ive rarely seen him "lmao" to stuff, that being said a few people have "lmao" in this lobby so it could just be rubbing off onto him
these could easily amount to nothing, and theres a world im just being overly critical on him since theres not much else to do yet or possibly because i just got used to shading him from the game i was just wolfing in against him lol
ladd seems a little off, could be nothing but yeh
so if i understand knights wincon depends on ladd finding a wolf today? if thats the case i feel like ladds reaction to the info feels kinda not right
idk i feel like if someone just banked their entire wincon a few minutes into the day upon me finding a wolf in a more chill thread with not much to dig into i personally feel like i would experience some pressure and my reaction probably wouldnt be the one ladd had, as wolf i would probs find it funny and react more similar to what ladd did. i'm obv projecting here so it could just be a personality thing
secondly is that he's using "lmao" much more than im ever used to lol. think ive rarely seen him "lmao" to stuff, that being said a few people have "lmao" in this lobby so it could just be rubbing off onto him
these could easily amount to nothing, and theres a world im just being overly critical on him since theres not much else to do yet or possibly because i just got used to shading him from the game i was just wolfing in against him lol
Lmao I love the lmao read
Lmao
(For real though I'm a sucker for those kind of reads, but I've seen Ladd use it a few times and it doesn't really stand out to me)
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 12:41
Raskolnikov
:Rideau:
I just read your post about cape/Vanta and I am feeling better about u. It sucks lmao.
Any thoughts about Sunbae/ladd?
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 12:43
Tbh Ladd has sounded a bit off tonally from the start. Id hate it to be real though lol
ladd seems a little off, could be nothing but yeh
so if i understand knights wincon depends on ladd finding a wolf today? if thats the case i feel like ladds reaction to the info feels kinda not right
idk i feel like if someone just banked their entire wincon a few minutes into the day upon me finding a wolf in a more chill thread with not much to dig into i personally feel like i would experience some pressure and my reaction probably wouldnt be the one ladd had, as wolf i would probs find it funny and react more similar to what ladd did. i'm obv projecting here so it could just be a personality thing
secondly is that he's using "lmao" much more than im ever used to lol. think ive rarely seen him "lmao" to stuff, that being said a few people have "lmao" in this lobby so it could just be rubbing off onto him
these could easily amount to nothing, and theres a world im just being overly critical on him since theres not much else to do yet or possibly because i just got used to shading him from the game i was just wolfing in against him lol
Knights can change his target anytime
Vanta is probably the most commonly miskilled player here (after taffy), cape plays here with regularity and knows this and knows that vanta will inevitably get heat because they don't post in a way that people typically find villagery (Regardless of vantas alignment)
A basic level of villager self awareness should understand this and even though they may find some early stuff from vanta wolfy, given the fact this is an extremely common miskill you just let it sit for a bit, because the odds are that you're not even reading into the right things and you can give them more rope to hang themself without ruining the measurement by interfering
it just strikes me as something done to do something in that if you already have that assumption, you just throw down a push early and provide some future benefit to both of you when one of you inevitably flips
I don't like making w/w reads this early with any seriousness but this just says to me w/w
Ymmv
err where u getting this part from? even if they played together what neccesitates that cape has to know this?
so i gather this is a w/w read, so lets say vanta flips v, how would that reflect on ur opinion on cape?
Knights can change his target anytime
oh whatttt
okay i should probs read the role at some point
Vanta is probably the most commonly miskilled player here (after taffy), cape plays here with regularity and knows this and knows that vanta will inevitably get heat because they don't post in a way that people typically find villagery (Regardless of vantas alignment)
A basic level of villager self awareness should understand this and even though they may find some early stuff from vanta wolfy, given the fact this is an extremely common miskill you just let it sit for a bit, because the odds are that you're not even reading into the right things and you can give them more rope to hang themself without ruining the measurement by interfering
it just strikes me as something done to do something in that if you already have that assumption, you just throw down a push early and provide some future benefit to both of you when one of you inevitably flips
I don't like making w/w reads this early with any seriousness but this just says to me w/w
Ymmv
hm. yeah, looking back at that cape read on vanta it's kind of weird feeling actually also. like vanta's reads are just. calling two posts "wolfy excuses, town" and then calling a youtube video wolfy? cape's read seems overdescribed/exaggerated
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 13:07
Fwiw waza it has happened in a MU game Visor was hosting last month. Vanta got shrugged chopped D1. Cape played that game iirc.
This is not a chainsaw defense or something btw, do your own thing as it wouldnt surprise me if w!Visor was playing that card but at least you have more context. :bow:
ladd seems a little off, could be nothing but yeh
so if i understand knights wincon depends on ladd finding a wolf today? if thats the case i feel like ladds reaction to the info feels kinda not right
idk i feel like if someone just banked their entire wincon a few minutes into the day upon me finding a wolf in a more chill thread with not much to dig into i personally feel like i would experience some pressure and my reaction probably wouldnt be the one ladd had, as wolf i would probs find it funny and react more similar to what ladd did. i'm obv projecting here so it could just be a personality thing
secondly is that he's using "lmao" much more than im ever used to lol. think ive rarely seen him "lmao" to stuff, that being said a few people have "lmao" in this lobby so it could just be rubbing off onto him
these could easily amount to nothing, and theres a world im just being overly critical on him since theres not much else to do yet or possibly because i just got used to shading him from the game i was just wolfing in against him lol
sick lmao reads
(I don't really think this is anything probably, and knights can change his target whenever)
The visor post seems wolfy
Too wordy :curtain:
The visor post seems wolfy
Too wordy :curtain:
K
:curtain:
I just read your post about cape/Vanta and I am feeling better about u. It sucks lmao.
Any thoughts about Sunbae/ladd?
They seem fine
oh whatttt
okay i should probs read the role at some point
It's bonkers lol
Free win if a wolf ever dies p much lol
Vanta seems to be trying harder to make reads than the game i remember from them but its a minisvule sample size so doesnt mean much i think
I dont follow why cape cant be a wolf pushing a villager for a mislunch or a villager with a correct read?
Iirc cape always shares reads super early as both alignments
I am in a weird state where I try to remember this is a game while also not posting too much nonsense because of the postcap.
Which results in me just not posting and forgetting for hours.
Disappointed ladd did not post a lmao after the callout.
I like rask a little bit of cape and my heart wants to like sunbae (my brain is staying strong on that one for now).
I feel marples one post resonate with the deepest and darkest parts of my soul.
I lost track of the last 24 hours
I'm here, and I'll be reading the opening of the day.
Marples
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdHpmdTBhYXBia3BnM2w0MnU0aGNydWlsbzQwdXUzamN3MGppd25ucCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/bt1HmombJOk0IIbtI3/giphy.gif
Vanta seems to be trying harder to make reads than the game i remember from them but its a minisvule sample size so doesnt mean much i think
I dont follow why cape cant be a wolf pushing a villager for a mislunch or a villager with a correct read?
Iirc cape always shares reads super early as both alignments
There's no reason why not
I just specifically have that read
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:31
Well I have learnt United Airlines is absolutely never to be trusted.
There's even a song about it so I'm more the fool.
theknightsofneeee
08-11-2025, 17:32
villas
knights
waza
raskol
vanta
jan
idk
ladd
lissa
jan
wolves
visor
sunbae
maple
logic (takes over an hour to read a 100 post game? :fry: )
theknightsofneeee
08-11-2025, 17:34
villas
knights
waza
raskol
vanta
jan
idk
ladd
lissa
jan
wolves
visor
sunbae
maple
logic (takes over an hour to read a 100 post game? :fry: )
throw cape90 in villa
idk why i put jan twice but that means he should probably just be in idk
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:42
Actually nvm I’d say knights opener is more Rand v
No.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:44
(Correct me if wrong) but I’m under the assumption he prefers town over wolf, so he seemed at ease/relaxed to me. Very light gut vibes is what that’s based on. Alsk He seemed pretty busy last when he was wolf so I imagine if he wanted to establish an early presence this game to play a more sweaty wolf game he would have tried to fake some content or try say something to get towncrewd off - this is all assumptions though so could be wrong and hence a light read
What made u ask ladd? An rvs read is almost always gonna be based off vibes, what were u hoping to get from my answer?
Mmmmm.
This is a lot of not accurate stuff. Rask has been busy as town or wolf and it rarely impacts how he goes about the next game. I do like this read even tho I think it's silly.
Waza can be a lil bit green.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:45
So much for my insta-reads. Must keep open mind.
Gonna keep my eye on Knightsofneeeeeee though
Off-topic: the public swimming pools closed today because I live in a terrible city. There should be laws about this. Public swimming pools should be open from memorial day to labor day in the USA or what's freedom for? This kind of thing brings on winter if you're not careful.
Vote: Vanta Black
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:45
If Vanta is wolf Waza is probably right about Nee which irritates me but I can accept lol.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:46
Anyways time to wait to force someone to question my reads for forced engagement
omg ur reads suckz
villas
knights
waza
raskol
vanta
jan
idk
ladd
lissa
jan
wolves
visor
sunbae
maple
logic (takes over an hour to read a 100 post game? :fry: )
I don't believe that'd you'd have a wolf read on me here. Ur meowted.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:48
I swear I thought there was gonna be a post-cap but I cannot find one. Time to play like there isn't and inevitably be mod-killed due to lack of reading comprehension.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:49
I don't believe that'd you'd have a wolf read on me here. Ur meowted.
Hi Maple.
Good to know we agree on something already.
Who do you townread?
I swear I thought there was gonna be a post-cap but I cannot find one. Time to play like there isn't and inevitably be mod-killed due to lack of reading comprehension.
60.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:50
What.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:51
theknightsofneeee has died! They were:
Kylo Ren
You are Third Party. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated, when a player dies due to poison, or when your boyfriend yeets a wolf.
12 hours into Day 1, or as soon as you either message the host to activate this ability or post the complete lyrics to your hit song “Banana Time” in the game thread, you will die and the following will happen immediately:
- 3 players at random receive a Parting Gift
- 4 players at random receive a Poisonous Bomb
- 1 player at random receives an Antidote
When Parting Gifts are distributed, they are also assigned a cycle between 1-3, one for each cycle.
You do not learn who receives what. Bomb and Antidote recipients are not notified of having received a Bomb or Antidote.
After dying, you remain in the game as a Treestump until the end of Day 2 or until you achieve a win condition, whichever comes first. After dying, for the remainder of Day 1, you may choose a player to be your boyfriend to make them a double voter. You may change boyfriends at any time by posting Boyfriend: player, bolded and on a separate line.
———————————————————————
Parting Gift
On Cycle X, you may choose a player during the Day to form a neighborhood with them on and for that Night. You also give them a gun, which they may use to kill you that Night only.
Poisonous Bomb
You reflexively poison anyone who kills you, unless they have an Antidote.
They remain in the game as a Treestump.
Okay this actually is such a fun looking role. I am jealous.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:51
60.
Oh ty. I probably should stop spam-posting with only 60 lmao.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:53
What the fuck
I don't believe that'd you'd have a wolf read on me here. Ur meowted.
Chief I got questions
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 17:59
my super smash bros trauma is peeking its head out again at all of the posts calling someone chief
spicy.
This is hilarious given I just called someone a chief =P
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 18:04
Vote: Maple
Vanta could be having a rough start so I'll give em room. I feel like it's easy to pick up on their town thought process eventually (Which then no one understands which is why they get miskilled) so I wanna commit to working that out properly instead of shrug yeeting em.
Also that set of posts from Maple feels bad.tm.
EnderWiggin
08-11-2025, 18:05
villas
knights
waza
raskol
vanta
jan
idk
ladd
lissa
jan
wolves
visor
sunbae
maple
logic (takes over an hour to read a 100 post game? :fry: )
Can you explain Jan/Raskol townreads?
And Vanta but I think I saw you say something on that already.
----
Anyway it's 3am and I've already used 1/4th of my posts. I am jetlagged and dying a lil but I promise to try and remember this game some tomorrow.
villas
knights
waza
raskol
vanta
jan
idk
ladd
lissa
jan
wolves
visor
sunbae
maple
logic (takes over an hour to read a 100 post game? :fry: )
What's the charge? Voting a wolf? A succulent Cape90 wolf?
This is democracy manifest.
Vote: Maple
Vanta could be having a rough start so I'll give em room. I feel like it's easy to pick up on their town thought process eventually (Which then no one understands which is why they get miskilled) so I wanna commit to working that out properly instead of shrug yeeting em.
Also that set of posts from Maple feels bad.tm.
idgi, manti hasn't don't anything that seems remotely alignment indicative
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 18:26
Vote: Sunbae :curtain:
If i was a betting man, id out somebucks down that logic will be lunched today
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 18:30
What's the charge? Voting a wolf? A succulent Cape90 wolf?
This is democracy manifest.
Candidating for a peace Nobel too?
Candidating for a peace Nobel too?
I see you know your werewolf well
If i was a betting man, id out somebucks down that logic will be lunched today
Sup bronana, what do you think of ender
Vote: Maple
Vanta could be having a rough start so I'll give em room. I feel like it's easy to pick up on their town thought process eventually (Which then no one understands which is why they get miskilled) so I wanna commit to working that out properly instead of shrug yeeting em.
Also that set of posts from Maple feels bad.tm.
ur getting omgusd
Vote: Sunbae :curtain:
I'm unironically the most villagery person in the thread. Sorry you had to find out this way :(
Vote: Waza
The "lmao" read is the second thing I've seen from Waza that made me think "this is a performative read to look like he's thinking in depth" so let's apply pressure
hopw does ender react with "glad we agree on something"
just to turn around and scumread the same post and vote maple based on it.
and all that in reaction to a reaction to the treestump.
Calling out knights readslist is pointless because you know his flip already.
agreeing with that callout just to turn on it does not make it any better.
Not even wolfy because it feels too sloppy to be a wolfplay. Just wrong on every level.
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 19:10
Vanta is probably the most commonly miskilled player here (after taffy), cape plays here with regularity and knows this and knows that vanta will inevitably get heat because they don't post in a way that people typically find villagery (Regardless of vantas alignment)
A basic level of villager self awareness should understand this and even though they may find some early stuff from vanta wolfy, given the fact this is an extremely common miskill you just let it sit for a bit, because the odds are that you're not even reading into the right things and you can give them more rope to hang themself without ruining the measurement by interfering
it just strikes me as something done to do something in that if you already have that assumption, you just throw down a push early and provide some future benefit to both of you when one of you inevitably flips
I don't like making w/w reads this early with any seriousness but this just says to me w/w
Ymmv
This does make any sense, logically. False premise, bad conclusion.
In order: Vanta most commonly miskilled player here. Really? I mean the most commonly mizzled? If true I probably deserve it, but I don't think it's true.
Cape knows it. Also not really supported by facts.
Conclusion: But even if true, the logic doesn't hold up. I get mizzled a lot, so my "partner" comes out bussing me at the getgo. I mean there are hellbussers, and Cape may be one, but this doesn't actually make sense.
I'm gonna flip town. That won't make Cape look particularly good. Although not particularly bad either, probably.
This "logic" looks like setting up a chain of some kind. I don't like it.
Vanta Black
08-11-2025, 19:13
Fwiw waza it has happened in a MU game Visor was hosting last month. Vanta got shrugged chopped D1. Cape played that game iirc.
This is not a chainsaw defense or something btw, do your own thing as it wouldnt surprise me if w!Visor was playing that card but at least you have more context. :bow:
If Cape played that game it was under a different name. I did get sadly mizzled D1 though.
Gonna call Vanta >rand villa and feel good about it
My villas right now are Jan, Ladd, Vanta, Cape
I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.
I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.
Why?
Vote: Waza
The "lmao" read is the second thing I've seen from Waza that made me think "this is a performative read to look like he's thinking in depth" so let's apply pressure
I will say that he has expressed similar reads in other games (and town read me for them) so I don't think it is super out of his wheelhouse, though admittedly I suppose it depends how you feel about it in general
After talking with lissa last game about needing to be more concrete and confident about expressing reads I am trying to do that here.
1. I think Waza's approach thus far is more likely to come from wolf Waza. I think there are posts made here to look villagery rather than to express opinions on alignments. This distinction is one that I struggle to articulate all the time but in this case it amounts to I believe villa Waza would have more succinct reads that he would expand upon if asked or needed while instead we have more elaborate "getting from point a to point b for a read" posts. Both the one about Rask and the one about Ladd's "lmao" both strike me as posts designed for people to look at and say "wow good thought process Waza, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager" rather than for waza to just be spitballing early reads.
Caveats of it's mid day 1 in a chill mostly rvs game so far and I am allowed to change my mind in the future apply.
2. Vanta's post about it looking like Visor is trying to chain something together and he doesn't like it is villagery for the exact same reasons I find Waza's posts wolfy. I look at it and say "wow good thought process Vanta, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager". Werewolf is a stupid game and I am able to hold these two thoughts simultaneously.
Why?
I cannot explain this one any more clearly than "I read his posts and he seems like an obvious villager doing obvious villager things to me"
that is, i wish i could explain more clearly
This does make any sense, logically. False premise, bad conclusion.
In order: Vanta most commonly miskilled player here. Really? I mean the most commonly mizzled? If true I probably deserve it, but I don't think it's true.
Cape knows it. Also not really supported by facts.
Conclusion: But even if true, the logic doesn't hold up. I get mizzled a lot, so my "partner" comes out bussing me at the getgo. I mean there are hellbussers, and Cape may be one, but this doesn't actually make sense.
I'm gonna flip town. That won't make Cape look particularly good. Although not particularly bad either, probably.
This "logic" looks like setting up a chain of some kind. I don't like it.
Yes, the chain is to kill cape and then you
If cape is a villa obviously I will reassess
the fact that both of you have come out against it the way you have is reinforcing my confirmation bias lol
I'm gonna be real, there is some silly posts about what I've said already
Oh no I'm setting up a sneaky chain to kill people
There's nothing sneaky about it. I literally said I think they are w/w. There's nothing hidden in such a blatant statement lol
There's no smoke and mirrors, it is literally just the read that it is lol
But what will you do if one flips villager?
I'm going to just double down obviously, it's the children who are wrong
Ofc I will reassess, even if I was a wolf making this read on villagers I'd at least pretend to reassess
Basic ww 101 lol
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 19:32
I am prolly slow but I read last Sunbae post about waza and Vanta and I am even more confused lol.
What makes them different to you then? Like meta? (Ie expectatipns wrt waza wolf play or something?)
I cannot explain this one any more clearly than "I read his posts and he seems like an obvious villager doing obvious villager things to me"
Fair enough
I can sometimes feel like that with Jan but not so far this game
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 19:34
I am going to grab food then switch pn comp and reread the whole thing smh.
My villas right now are Jan, Ladd, Vanta, Cape
When sunbae doesn't have you in the town core again
https://media.tenor.com/5b85UCVCcQ8AAAAM/spying-russell-crowe.gif
https://i.imgur.com/ST5gvIJ.png
I am prolly slow but I read last Sunbae post about waza and Vanta and I am even more confused lol.
What makes them different to you then? Like meta? (Ie expectatipns wrt waza wolf play or something?)
Metaish I guess would be the word under that description
What did you make of enders posts sunbae
What did you make of enders posts sunbae
They seemed like normal intro posts to me and will wait for more stuff to make a read. Looking forward to maybe actually being around at the same time for once. Third times the charm right?
They seemed like normal intro posts to me and will wait for more stuff to make a read. Looking forward to maybe actually being around at the same time for once. Third times the charm right?
What about manti
What about manti
No real read on those yet (this is not a "manti impossible to read so I wont try" post)
Vanta is probably the most commonly miskilled player here (after taffy), cape plays here with regularity and knows this and knows that vanta will inevitably get heat because they don't post in a way that people typically find villagery (Regardless of vantas alignment)
A basic level of villager self awareness should understand this and even though they may find some early stuff from vanta wolfy, given the fact this is an extremely common miskill you just let it sit for a bit, because the odds are that you're not even reading into the right things and you can give them more rope to hang themself without ruining the measurement by interfering
it just strikes me as something done to do something in that if you already have that assumption, you just throw down a push early and provide some future benefit to both of you when one of you inevitably flips
I don't like making w/w reads this early with any seriousness but this just says to me w/w
Ymmv
Never played with Vanta outside of mashes on MU so I didn't know that Vanta was some common miskill. I missed a few recent games here no matter how many times people try to tell me I am pzelda :p
Fwiw waza it has happened in a MU game Visor was hosting last month. Vanta got shrugged chopped D1. Cape played that game iirc.
This is not a chainsaw defense or something btw, do your own thing as it wouldnt surprise me if w!Visor was playing that card but at least you have more context. :bow:
I just checked, wasn't in that game
Vate: Maple
I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now
Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn
I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning
Never played with Vanta outside of mashes on MU so I didn't know that Vanta was some common miskill. I missed a few recent games here no matter how many times people try to tell me I am pzelda :p
Wild
Guess I was wrong then lol
I could've sworn youve played like every game here
Back to the drawing board
Vate: Maple
I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now
Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn
I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning
Talk to me about ender please
I don't think Ladd has done anything worth being concerned about yet, ymmv
Yes, the chain is to kill cape and then you
If cape is a villa obviously I will reassess
the fact that both of you have come out against it the way you have is reinforcing my confirmation bias lol
This post I laughed at btw, like wow I come and push back on a wolf read on myself as if you wouldn't do the same in my shoes. What a shocker. I didn't really get your push on me until you explained the Vanta thing which seems to be in its own world seperate from just pushing me because I had an early readslist.
I moreso trust my towncore anyways early on then my ability to find mafia early from like 1 and a half pages, not that anyone is strongly wolfy even still with 6 pages of the game but to be fair it's like 30 posts per page
Vote: Waza
The "lmao" read is the second thing I've seen from Waza that made me think "this is a performative read to look like he's thinking in depth" so let's apply pressure
Wdym chief
Gonna call Vanta >rand villa and feel good about it
Yeah same
Kinda agree with ur villa list u posted after this
Mmmmm.
This is a lot of not accurate stuff. Rask has been busy as town or wolf and it rarely impacts how he goes about the next game. I do like this read even tho I think it's silly.
Waza can be a lil bit green.
1. I kind of liked this. I think rask has been towny.
Vote: Vanta Black
2. Mindmeld vote because this is probably the wolfiest thing that Vanta did
Chief I got questions
Vote: Maple
Vanta could be having a rough start so I'll give em room. I feel like it's easy to pick up on their town thought process eventually (Which then no one understands which is why they get miskilled) so I wanna commit to working that out properly instead of shrug yeeting em.
Also that set of posts from Maple feels bad.tm.
3. All this and the vote on Maple and the way Ender was navigating the thread felt a bit sloppy to be a wolf, so pretty much I agree with what Jan said. I only partially get the push and it's mostly for
I don't believe that'd you'd have a wolf read on me here. Ur meowted.
but the vote was mostly just to get off you and i was too lazy to look up how to unvote so it was them or Lissa as I want more from both
Wdym chief
Should've said
"Lmao chief"
Also in terms of ladd I am kinda bothered by his Visor read #106 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866570&viewfull=1#post2053866570) because I feel like Visor hasn't been LHF recently in games like the last 2 mashes I have seen him in, well he had a bit of a slower start in previous mash but w/e.
I remember both Ladd and dya wolf reading me a bit in one of the recent villa games I had here when I posted a bunch cause I've been a slanker for a while
I don't really care about a read like that, I think he's just having fun
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 20:57
Cape seems OK rn :sparkleshrug:
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 20:59
Ill be ba k with more hindsightfull posts l8r chiefos
Raskolnikov
08-11-2025, 21:03
Vote: Lissa
Hehehe
Sup bronana, what do you think of ender
I am ngl when i first read his posts i thought he seemed fine
But then i re read them and wow they are so wolfy lmao
I ll explain why in like 10 hours (for no reason other than i just drove a bunch of hours and am exausted)
I am mostly okay with all of jan,visor,cape,vanta,waza,sunbae,rask
Not that they have to be all villagers but yall seem fine enuf for now
Rask isn't scumreading me? He must be outed wolf then
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 00:04
idgi, manti hasn't don't anything that seems remotely alignment indicative
Manti acknowledged the claim and then called em wolfy anyway.
Possibly was a joke I missed but felt kinda weird.
ur getting omgusd
Do it.
hopw does ender react with "glad we agree on something"
just to turn around and scumread the same post and vote maple based on it.
and all that in reaction to a reaction to the treestump.
Calling out knights readslist is pointless because you know his flip already.
agreeing with that callout just to turn on it does not make it any better.
Not even wolfy because it feels too sloppy to be a wolfplay. Just wrong on every level.
That is taking my reaction out of context in a horrible way mate.
My reaction changes based on context.
Ngl this hit down only to end it with "idk if it's wolfy" is kinda sus.
I would be very surprised if Jan is a wolf fwiw. This isn't quite the level of when I say it about Dya in recent games here but it's only just below that.
???? why
After talking with lissa last game about needing to be more concrete and confident about expressing reads I am trying to do that here.
1. I think Waza's approach thus far is more likely to come from wolf Waza. I think there are posts made here to look villagery rather than to express opinions on alignments. This distinction is one that I struggle to articulate all the time but in this case it amounts to I believe villa Waza would have more succinct reads that he would expand upon if asked or needed while instead we have more elaborate "getting from point a to point b for a read" posts. Both the one about Rask and the one about Ladd's "lmao" both strike me as posts designed for people to look at and say "wow good thought process Waza, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager" rather than for waza to just be spitballing early reads.
Caveats of it's mid day 1 in a chill mostly rvs game so far and I am allowed to change my mind in the future apply.
2. Vanta's post about it looking like Visor is trying to chain something together and he doesn't like it is villagery for the exact same reasons I find Waza's posts wolfy. I look at it and say "wow good thought process Vanta, you're really thinking intricately about the game so you must be a villager". Werewolf is a stupid game and I am able to hold these two thoughts simultaneously.
Unironically this is so town!Sunbae it hurts.
I'm gonna be real, there is some silly posts about what I've said already
Oh no I'm setting up a sneaky chain to kill people
There's nothing sneaky about it. I literally said I think they are w/w. There's nothing hidden in such a blatant statement lol
There's no smoke and mirrors, it is literally just the read that it is lol
But what will you do if one flips villager?
I'm going to just double down obviously, it's the children who are wrong
Ofc I will reassess, even if I was a wolf making this read on villagers I'd at least pretend to reassess
Basic ww 101 lol
Why u so sneaky.
Cape seems OK rn :sparkleshrug:
I want to start a wagon on Cape so pretty good chances that's a town there.
I am ngl when i first read his posts i thought he seemed fine
But then i re read them and wow they are so wolfy lmao
I ll explain why in like 10 hours (for no reason other than i just drove a bunch of hours and am exausted)
Really Ladd.
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 00:18
Cape/Rask/Sunbae/Waza likely has 0 wolves. Vanta maybe there too but reserving judgement.
I am not going to snap read Ladd because I have no idea if this is opportunistic wolfy Ladd or if it's towny Ladd who wolfreads me randomly. (Last game alone is an example of Ladd calling me "Second wolfiest poster in this thread" while we were v/v)
Visor is visoring tho I'm a lil sketched at their incessant poking of people to read me. Lightest shade of red.
Jan feels wolfy. Maple feels wolfy. Lissa doesn't feel.
I don't know if I forgot someone but I think those are my reads atm.
I mean go ahead and wagon me? It would be funny
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2LissaRaskolnikov (20 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866649&viewfull=1#post2053866649)), Visor (28 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866648&viewfull=1#post2053866648))
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1MapleEnderWiggin (17 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866598&viewfull=1#post2053866598))
1wazaSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866609&viewfull=1#post2053866609))
6Not VotingJan (7), Lissa (4), Logic (1), Maple (6), Vanta Black (14), waza (14)
Vote: Maple
Vanta could be having a rough start so I'll give em room. I feel like it's easy to pick up on their town thought process eventually (Which then no one understands which is why they get miskilled) so I wanna commit to working that out properly instead of shrug yeeting em.
Also that set of posts from Maple feels bad.tm.
what about them feels bad to you? EnderWiggin
I have nothing. But I also stayed home from work today with a sick kiddo.
I'm reading now while I rock him to sleep.
I have nothing. But I also stayed home from work today with a sick kiddo.
I'm reading now while I rock him to sleep.
That is supposed to say "I have read nothing" but what's written there is also true.:laugh4:
sunbae seems like a villager.
heard re: the happy read. I've been really fond of that read in general lately, process that moreso looks nice than really holds up on any sort of deep level. I do think vanta's read you're noting is a bit different of a type of read.
Vate: Maple
I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now
Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn
I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning
why are you sheeping ender there? the maple read was pretty empty and maple hasn't really done... anything ai, really.
sunbae seems like a villager.
heard re: the happy read. I've been really fond of that read in general lately, process that moreso looks nice than really holds up on any sort of deep level. I do think vanta's read you're noting is a bit different of a type of read.
Well they are also very different kind of people and players which is the real difference imo (in that their personality tells you more about whether that read is genuine)
Where Are you at on ender lissa
1. I kind of liked this. I think rask has been towny.
2. Mindmeld vote because this is probably the wolfiest thing that Vanta did
3. All this and the vote on Maple and the way Ender was navigating the thread felt a bit sloppy to be a wolf, so pretty much I agree with what Jan said. I only partially get the push and it's mostly for
but the vote was mostly just to get off you and i was too lazy to look up how to unvote so it was them or Lissa as I want more from both
Given you referred to the maple vote among other things as sloppy, I'm even more wondering why you sheeped it.
Where Are you at on ender lissa
mostly feels alright. don't have strong thoughts
Well they are also very different kind of people and players which is the real difference imo (in that their personality tells you more about whether that read is genuine)
also very correct yes.
Also in terms of ladd I am kinda bothered by his Visor read #106 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866570&viewfull=1#post2053866570) because I feel like Visor hasn't been LHF recently in games like the last 2 mashes I have seen him in, well he had a bit of a slower start in previous mash but w/e.
idt it was a super serious post. felt very very mildly villagery tho
I could have sworn Maple posted more then they have. I'm also surprised that Visor is at 30.
It's more of like I don't have any reason not to be on Maple but I'm not attached to anything
idt it was a super serious post. felt very very mildly villagery tho
Eh it's that I really don't agree with the take even beyond what I just said
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 04:28
what about them feels bad to you? EnderWiggin
They acknowledged the flip an then still went back to poke at the reads list. Over-conscious of where they were being read by the treestump.
Do you have no read on Maple at all so far?
Where Are you at on ender lissa
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They acknowledged the flip an then still went back to poke at the reads list. Over-conscious of where they were being read by the treestump.
Do you have no read on Maple at all so far?
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i mean their response was kind of a clear joke iyam. also you also engaged with the reads list?
no i don't.
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 04:37
i mean their response was kind of a clear joke iyam. also you also engaged with the reads list?
no i don't.
My engagement wasn't poking at my position on it.
I don't get the joke but maybe I'm just dead from my recent plane travels. Meh.
They acknowledged the flip an then still went back to poke at the reads list. Over-conscious of where they were being read by the treestump.
Do you have no read on Maple at all so far?
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overly wordy read on a 0 poster
ur meowted kid
Lissa seems like wolf to me meow. Reminds me of dya wolf
like it feels like lissa is doing this thing to where they have to argue with people while also giving the most softball reads that seem just very unconfident to where it tips the scale to being wolfy
like it feels like lissa is doing this thing to where they have to argue with people while also giving the most softball reads that seem just very unconfident to where it tips the scale to being wolfy
argue as in... ask people questions to try to read them better?
?
also idt the majority of my reads are particularly softball lol
weird post
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6Not VotingJan (7), Lissa (13), Logic (3), Maple (7), Vanta Black (14), waza (14)
Deadline is in 8 hours.
nya
vote: EnderWiggin
unabashed omgus i do not BELIEVE ender actually thinks im a wolf. asking ladd or others for a read on me when i have literally no posts so far is just weird
vote: cape90
A lot of his thoughts are just. Kind of stretchy or a little offbase in interpretation, and not in a villager sort of way.
vote: cape90
A lot of his thoughts are just. Kind of stretchy or a little offbase in interpretation, and not in a villager sort of way.
im also down to omgus him, what about ender's "case" on me was at all sheepable?
Vate: Maple
I'd say Vanta towny recently. Visor is kinda towny now
Gonna sheep EnderWiggin, he feels okay rn
I feel like my read on ladd is stagnantly a "good null" which is kind of concerning
this post is wolfshaped
vote maple. vanta and visor v, sheeping ender he feels okay, ladd is null which is concerning
this is the sort of post a wolf makes 200 posts into a game.
1. I kind of liked this. I think rask has been towny.
2. Mindmeld vote because this is probably the wolfiest thing that Vanta did
3. All this and the vote on Maple and the way Ender was navigating the thread felt a bit sloppy to be a wolf, so pretty much I agree with what Jan said. I only partially get the push and it's mostly for
but the vote was mostly just to get off you and i was too lazy to look up how to unvote so it was them or Lissa as I want more from both
bro is not long for this world, im coming for u
Raskolnikov
08-12-2025, 06:41
Gemma: Turby hates Jan lol. Or maybe it was hardcoded by Benneh... in which case, good job
im also down to omgus him, what about ender's "case" on me was at all sheepable?
this post is wolfshaped
vote maple. vanta and visor v, sheeping ender he feels okay, ladd is null which is concerning
this is the sort of post a wolf makes 200 posts into a game.
bro is not long for this world, im coming for u
Yeah I do kinda vibe with your issue re: ender, but some of their posts felt sooorta villa.
Cape sheeping them while openly acknowledging the read was kinda sloppy and empty is wolfy + I thought his read on vanta seemed pretty stretchy, "throwing stuff against the wall that didn't make sense/wolf logic" when said "stuff" was calling a couple of entry posts "wolfy excuse, probably town" that seemed not even entirely serious and pretty lightweight + calling me "arguing" for ?lightly probing into someone's thought process? just seems like a made up reason to push me.
also yeah that is a wolf shaped post lol
and the ladd line is just kinda empty nonsense
Gemma: Turby hates Jan lol. Or maybe it was hardcoded by Benneh... in which case, good job
I have 2 votes cause of knights role
Gemma: Turby hates Jan lol. Or maybe it was hardcoded by Benneh... in which case, good job
Ladd got a 2nd vote because of Knight's friendship with him!
All is well as far as I understand.
I like Lissa pushing cape for the ender-sheep.
You can vote maple for reactions, but anything more than that is a reach.
Raskolnikov
08-12-2025, 07:02
I have 2 votes cause of knights role
Lol i had forgotten about it allready (tx ladd). Sorry gemma, u worked hard on the setup, even sent PMs out, and I forget about them. How rude. :curtain:
I gotta say i also dont like Enders vote justification. I reread him because of the most recent posts and I have troubles believeing Ender believes what he posted about Maple (acknowledging a joke etc). I mean Maple was just lacking (Tm) at the time, could have gone with said type of post (like Visor on Lissa). Weird
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 07:03
nya
vote: EnderWiggin
unabashed omgus i do not BELIEVE ender actually thinks im a wolf. asking ladd or others for a read on me when i have literally no posts so far is just weird
When did I ever ask others for a read on you?
If you're gonna come for me actually quote what I did properly like.
Also Maple just latching onto the Cape omgus once Lissa fields it feels like aggro wolfin'. Like they haven't mentioned Cape despite apparently having a mini-case locked and ready to go.
Instead literally 100% of Maple's posts have been "Ender wolf" with no other nuance and then latching onto a second target once Lissa sets the tee up. (If I'm right on this it's also 99% Lissa town because that wolfy-latch-on is not w/w.)
Small footprint wolftell always feels good.
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 07:04
Ladd got a 2nd vote because of Knight's friendship with him!
All is well as far as I understand.
I like Lissa pushing cape for the ender-sheep.
You can vote maple for reactions, but anything more than that is a reach.
Really? So Maple doing nothing but omgusing and latching onto things isn't wolfy in the slightest?
EnderWiggin
08-12-2025, 07:06
Lol i had forgotten about it allready (tx ladd). Sorry gemma, u worked hard on the setup, even sent PMs out, and I forget about them. How rude. :curtain:
I gotta say i also dont like Enders vote justification. I reread him because of the most recent posts and I have troubles believeing Ender believes what he posted about Maple (acknowledging a joke etc). I mean Maple was just lacking (Tm) at the time, could have gone with said type of post (like Visor on Lissa). Weird
I might've jumped on something dumb with the joke that I didn't read as a joke.
But I don't think Maple's reactions/actions afterwards have been towny so I'm a genius and you should bow down before me ya know?
Is it wrong that i now kinda think visor is a wolf but still feel it is bad lunching him today
Is it wrong that i now kinda think visor is a wolf but still feel it is bad lunching him today
talk to me about this? he's seemed somewhat villagery to me
Really? So Maple doing nothing but omgusing and latching onto things isn't wolfy in the slightest?
I don't think the "omugsing" on knights the treestump was real and just silly one being silly
Cape decided to "sheep you" and you voted maple before maple said they are omgussing you (and you did not post in between.
So either it was not a sheep or his reason cannot be the omgus.
You and anyone else can argue that it was a reaction test, and Maple's reaction was bad.
That is fair.
But nobody has said that.
Really? So Maple doing nothing but omgusing and latching onto things isn't wolfy in the slightest?
Not at all, this is normal for me.
I do agree lissa is prob villa
I dont wanna lunch cape cause i think waza is a villager, he is super good at reading cape and was thinking villa there
Ender second spurt of posts seems fine, i had some problems with the first one but prolly dont care to go there now
Jan/sunbae w/w would be fun and crossed my mind but i think a comment jan made makes me doubt it so ill take jan as v for now as a sheep
I was joking about visor post being too wordy but thr post itself kinda pinged me cause it really seemed to be assumin too much. Idk kinds reminds me of when he opened as a wolf saying me/waza w/w but the explained versione
Look, here's what's going to happen. I'm not gonna do shit. I'm going to be a useless sack that sits around the thread, puttering about, posting bullshit, and no one will care. When EoD comes around Ladd, or Lissa, or Visor, or sunbae will come in and say "nah, Maple is pretty cute but she isn't actually wolfy here". "If she was a wolf, she wouldn't be so wolfy, she's on of the best wolves of all time". You can get mad about that if you want. You can say I suck and I'm a wolf and I'm outed, but you've already fallen for my trap. You've called me a wolf.
But here's what you're forgetting: I'm one of the most polarized players on the Org. I am already outside of my wolf range. To the high intellect players on this list? I'm already an innocent child. So you "pushing" me for having "bad" reactions? For doing nothing but shitting around and OMGUSing and being a bitch? Lock fucking clear.
You've made a big mistake bud. Now it's time for you to die.
And no, I simply forgot that knights revealed as 3p. Think I'm lying? Go read the first 2 pages of the Catan Ultralight on MU. I'm the dumbest bitch of all time.
Really? So Maple doing nothing but omgusing and latching onto things isn't wolfy in the slightest?
was a pretty reasonable omgus tbh.
I do agree lissa is prob villa
I dont wanna lunch cape cause i think waza is a villager, he is super good at reading cape and was thinking villa there
Ender second spurt of posts seems fine, i had some problems with the first one but prolly dont care to go there now
Jan/sunbae w/w would be fun and crossed my mind but i think a comment jan made makes me doubt it so ill take jan as v for now as a sheep
I was joking about visor post being too wordy but thr post itself kinda pinged me cause it really seemed to be assumin too much. Idk kinds reminds me of when he opened as a wolf saying me/waza w/w but the explained versione
yeah jan can be v.
Fair re waza read on cape, but honestly I think he is wolfy enough I don't really find myself inclined to care myself.
I can see what you mean re the visor post ig ye.
so im watching boston legal with a bad bitch (and neil) this show is soooo gay
(I also lean v on cape myself and am against kunching him fwiw. I am just bad at reading him so using waza as a crutch is easier lmao)
so im watching boston legal with a bad bitch (and neil) this show is soooo gay
i read the wikipedia synopsis
sounds like fun
i read the wikipedia synopsis
sounds like fun
absolute slop but thats what we're here for
absolute slop but thats what we're here for
nice
(I also lean v on cape myself and am against kunching him fwiw. I am just bad at reading him so using waza as a crutch is easier lmao)
i suspect enough people agree it's unlikely he goes over today, ultimately
Raskolnikov
08-12-2025, 08:14
I was joking about visor post being too wordy but thr post itself kinda pinged me cause it really seemed to be assumin too much. Idk kinds reminds me of when he opened as a wolf saying me/waza w/w but the explained versione
I had troubles with him going from cape w to cape ww with Vanta tbh, i mean in lieu of the other possibilities. I have liked him more since he dropped it entirely and started to probe, a play more in line with his village game but thats the easiest thing to fake so I dont really know what to do with the slot rn.
Raskolnikov
08-12-2025, 08:15
Also Lissa/Maple feel coordinated or something. Glad I am not Ender rn :bow:
Also Lissa/Maple feel coordinated or something. Glad I am not Ender rn :bow:
we've basically merged into one being at this point
When did I ever ask others for a read on you?
If you're gonna come for me actually quote what I did properly like.
Also Maple just latching onto the Cape omgus once Lissa fields it feels like aggro wolfin'. Like they haven't mentioned Cape despite apparently having a mini-case locked and ready to go.
Instead literally 100% of Maple's posts have been "Ender wolf" with no other nuance and then latching onto a second target once Lissa sets the tee up. (If I'm right on this it's also 99% Lissa town because that wolfy-latch-on is not w/w.)
Small footprint wolftell always feels good.
...Maybe I'm on the wrong side of history
Vote: EnderWiggin
I don't get how Maple "coming out of nowhere" with a case on me is super wolfy and them not mentioning me up to this point is wolfy when Maple hasn't really done anything otherwise.
And like Maple's case on me isn't like all that deep either and is also based off recent things I said, I don't get the whole "oh this post is wolf-shaped" thing, I mean I am kinda struggling to get a grip this game because it feels like so little has happened that really inspires me in any way
I rescind the wolfcase this cape guy seems alright
we've basically merged into one being at this point
real
argue as in... ask people questions to try to read them better?
?
also idt the majority of my reads are particularly softball lol
weird post
It's like you would say one thing and I'd be like "... okay but what does Lissa think of xyz?" Like when Visor asked about your read on Ender #198 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866664&viewfull=1#post2053866664) I was like "mhm yeah I have that and other questions"
When I said softball, I didn't exactly mean softball, but when you were pressed about your ender read and your maple read you just kind of nullread them when the criticism that you levied against me didn't really match the energy of your pushing of me, like why would you care so much about me pushing one of your nullreads?
I had troubles with him going from cape w to cape ww with Vanta tbh, i mean in lieu of the other possibilities. I have liked him more since he dropped it entirely and started to probe, a play more in line with his village game but thats the easiest thing to fake so I dont really know what to do with the slot rn.
but like that was Visor's original take on me? Like he originally said that I was w/w with Vanta, this wasn't a development that came later on.
And like this other part seems rather ungenerous, "well Visor later became towny but that's easy for wolf to fake" like what do you want Visor to do, be wolfy?? Do you mean this in like a different way?
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 248
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
2LissaRaskolnikov (24 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866649&viewfull=1#post2053866649)), Visor (30 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866648&viewfull=1#post2053866648))
2EnderWigginCape90 (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866709&viewfull=1#post2053866709)), Maple (16 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866679&viewfull=1#post2053866679))
2Janladd (19 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866553&viewfull=1#post2053866553))
1MapleEnderWiggin (22 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866598&viewfull=1#post2053866598))
1wazaSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866609&viewfull=1#post2053866609))
1Cape90Lissa (24 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866680&viewfull=1#post2053866680))
4Not VotingJan (9), Logic (3), Vanta Black (14), waza (14)
Deadline in 5 1/2 hours.
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow:
Day 1 - Votes from post 5 through 248
VotesTargetVoters (Posts in Phase)
2LissaRaskolnikov (24 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866649&viewfull=1#post2053866649)), Visor (30 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866648&viewfull=1#post2053866648))
2EnderWigginCape90 (29 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866709&viewfull=1#post2053866709)), Maple (16 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866679&viewfull=1#post2053866679))
2Janladd (19 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866553&viewfull=1#post2053866553))
1MapleEnderWiggin (22 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866598&viewfull=1#post2053866598))
1wazaSunbae (21 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866609&viewfull=1#post2053866609))
1Cape90Lissa (24 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php/155137-Kylo-Ren-s-Banana-Time-Mafia?p=2053866680&viewfull=1#post2053866680))
4Not VotingJan (9), Logic (3), Vanta Black (14), waza (14)
Deadline in 5 1/2 hours.
WAIT WHAT REALLY? WTF THIS ISNT A 48/24?
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