ALEXANDER EB [Archive] - Page 7

Darth Revan

06-08-2009, 19:34

I messed up on my 2nd install and forgot to add the alex exe and started taking away documents id added previously an started losing myself till i realised what id really done.

Anyway its working again and i have the night attack function in my campaign, but when i tested it as koinon hellon it wouldnt let me click the box for night attack with 1 general.

But with another it let me click the box and night attack worked, shudnt it always let u click the box and then see what the out come is?

I feel the AI has improved in battle now its time to check the campaign role play to see if its made the right effects.

Il be so happy if its working correctly :)

ps. Wub u vartan :P
Finally, you got it through.......
Only those generals who have the ability Night Fighter can participate in a night battle.....& they have an extra command star at night.......

Meanwhile, I am playin' EAEM as Macedon & KH are very powerful in that.......But I am gonna' crush them anyways.........

lionhard

06-08-2009, 21:56

I know rofl.

Now i have a problem and its a major draw back

When you click on a unit whilst in a battle or even a spot far away on the map normally on any of the other games ur camera will qfind that unit or spot and place you directly behind it if you quickly move the mouse whilst its performing this action it will be done with in a second wasting no time.

On the alex engine version of EB iv just modded When i do the above rather than my screen finding the unit faster it reverts back to the location i just came from, this is a huge drawback and im wondering does any 1 else get that who has used the alex engine on EB?

shame really i changed my camera settings to exactly the same as my vanilla EB version on my laptop and its still doin it.

Any suggestions wudnt go a miss ty

Edit: Iv just tryed playing vanilla alexander and the same happends damn it, this is a real problem what am i supposed to do when i need to find a unit on the battle field fast? wait 2 minutes for the slow camera to scrolle accross the whole map whilst precious time is being wasted?

vartan

06-09-2009, 00:33

option

06-09-2009, 00:45

I decided to try my hand at getting EB ALEX (engine only) to work for my comp, and followed all the instruction vartan laid out. I couldn't quite make the whole target-path thing work (only the one that didn't actually target the engine itself, but only the directory it's located in worked, the other kept telling me the file path wasn't valid), but I managed to get it to run with my regular EB icon. It seems to load fine, with the Alexander line appearing at the bottom of the initial game startup screen, but I get some really weird bugs with my saved games. Everything seems to be normal, but the traits of my FMs are all really screwed up - just about all of them have 'Father Avenged Against Sabaens', 'Mediocre When Outnumbered', 'Silun-Pisun (or something) Defender' and 'Recruited General'. All their races are changed, too - in my Epeiros campaign, all my family members are Sogdianos, Ionios, or some other weird race they shouldn't be. Also, in my Baktrian campaign, my faction leader has lost the 'Baktria Victory Conditions' and had it replaced with 'Qart-Hadast Victory Conditions' and 'Saba Victory Conditions'. Everything seems to be as per norm when I start a new campaign, but I can't figure out how to fix this traits thing. Any ideas?

EDIT: I should add that EVERY family member in both my Baktrian and Epirote campaigns also has Hiero of Syrakousai's biography. This is too weird.

vartan

06-09-2009, 01:48

Lol guys. It seems like I'm going to have to go back and reinstall EB Alex Engine-Only so I can remember how I exactly did it so I can finally help y'all.

I'm sorry you guys aren't able to fix this. Maksimus is this mod's creator and he knows the ins and outs. It really was quite simple for me to get it working but then again, I catch on really quickly to stuff like this.

Best of luck and I'll let y'all know if I get any good results.

P.S. I hope I can actually continue my saved campaign using the EB Alex Engine Only mod.

Darth Revan

06-09-2009, 04:19

Save games do not work with EB (Alex engine)......The traits get messed up in exactly the same way as mentioned by option......In my macedonian campaign, my faction heir was making the Seleucids bite the dust........After replacing the engine files in favour of ALEX engine, he got the same traits as mentioned by option......replacing his fine character with rubbish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ Lionhard, you can pause the game to save time when giving commands..........

Knight of Heaven

06-09-2009, 07:42

hello , well just to say i finaly put alex engine to work as well the alex exe, i kwon it i didnt mess up with the instalation, the problem was the trivial script, in my instalation of EB the Documentation, and trivial script werent install in Rome total war folder they were in another folder diferent from C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War
What i did was to move the trivial script folder to rome TW and change the single player exe and fire it up, and it worked, been doing a nice campaing with no ctds so far , very smoothly :P and i can still play online becouse i use the MP icon exe who starts with rome exe and not the alex exe. just to report it if anyone as the same problem.

lionhard

06-09-2009, 10:19

I had 1 CDT with Koinon Hellon when i went to end a turn, other than that and my camera which ill have to get used to, i have no problems.

Oh 1 thing iv been taking the southern cities from macedonia and in the process they did not retaliate for years, even though they had half garrison cities that were not under threat. (I even had time to send my whole army and take Krete with out any trouble from macedonia) (this was after i had just took 2 of their cities)

1 other note was that normally at the start epirus takes pella with phyrros and his mighty army but for the first time with the alex engine installed epirus did not even attack pella but just sat in the same place next to pella until finally a macedonian army attacked.

As mentioned above Macedonia actually attacked phyrros and failed presenting phyrros with a heroic victory.

In my 10 year campaign so far No cities have been seiged by either macedonia or epirus which is weird :S

Also 1 of the main points here is that macedonia attack a half garrisoned city of mine with only 2 units (a general) and a basic phalanax. when i countered the seige they simply ran away.

I thought installing alex was supposed to stop idiotic things like this happening lol?

I have to say in battle the AI seems better, i only had 1 problem when seiging krete 3 ai units on the walls held their positions whilst i was raping the rest of the ai in the middle and around the fort.

Oh and question. What advantages/disadvantages/effects does night attack make?

Knight of Heaven

06-09-2009, 17:27

yes i saw some idiotics things like this before still, they do atack in force if you let then time ...i mean , im playing makedonia, i kick ass against KH and take all cities in greece next i hold my ground , èpirus still ataking alot i had a heroic victory in some hills near demetrias, èpirus still atack time to time but with no real force, then i try something diferent, i build a fleet , and atack Krete, next i take Cyrene, and so on untill alexandria, i take alexandria and menphis, in greece i only did take thermon and Ambrakia, ill not move more in greece till i get all lower Egypt and judea, and sidon, only then i will turn my attention to anatolia and greece. this is on H/H i guess will try a very hard campaing next time

Darth Revan

06-09-2009, 19:37

Aemilius Paulus

06-09-2009, 20:11

So, does anyone know where I can read more about EAEM? I recommended the normal version to lionhard because it is what he seemed to want, not to mention EAEM is trickier to install.

I was thinking of switching from regular EB on ALEX to EAEM but I am not sure what the advantages are, as I can simply add the units I want myself, and add the ones I really want, such as certain RTR units I ahd my eye on...

vartan

06-09-2009, 20:23

EAEM is just as easy to install.

Once you've got RTW 1.5 and the Alex executable on your computer, run EAEM install, copy fixes, and make the appropriate shortcut. Voila. Simple as that.

P.S. I wouldn't play EAEM unless I enjoyed the extra challenge. Plus, it's nice that you start with elites. Oh, and you won't really know how good it is unless you install it for yourself. Just try it out, you've nothing to lose =]

lionhard

06-09-2009, 22:23

it sounds like a good mod but i dont want to stray too far from EB.

That alex mod AI is deffo better, the only let down is the camera modes that the alex engine posses.

Any 1 got an answer for what advantages u get from performing a night attack?

p.s has ne 1 got any decent ss's from the EAEM game that could help ppl see what its like.

This damn mod shud have its own forum or web page, 1 single topic holding all the info between 2 little mods is a joke ppl r confused and i think this mod would have lost a lot of popularity on the fact ppl struggle to understand whats goin on.

Aemilius Paulus

06-09-2009, 22:31

EAEM is just as easy to install.

Once you've got RTW 1.5 and the Alex executable on your computer, run EAEM install, copy fixes, and make the appropriate shortcut. Voila. Simple as that.
Easy for you and me, but lionhard had difficulty installing the normal alex.exe, hence my recommendation. I am a rather experienced modder myself, so the installation difficulty is irrelevant.

How save-game compatible is EAEM? What does it feature? Honestly. I am not going to install something I have no idea about. I am not going to make a copy of RTW and EB just for this mod. I have already downloaded it, but I need more info on it. I am definitely going to keep the vanilla EB desc_strat because the starting elites feature is not realistic.

vartan

06-10-2009, 06:12

@AP: consider EAEM not save compatible

@lion: the screens wont say much. game looks the same acts the same. same AI, etc as engine only (of course). only some stuff like full stack enemies and rebels and cities and so on and so forth. if you're like AP, you won't bother taking a try. if you do have time and are willing, I suggest you try it. it won't hurt.

Maksimus

06-10-2009, 08:09

hello everyone I have been away a bit :)

Now, i cant really go last 2 pages but I can tell you all you need to know now

:)

lionhard

06-10-2009, 13:08

What advantages/ disadvantages does night attack pose?

Darth Revan

06-10-2009, 13:42

I took a screenshot of the results of my 1st battle in EAEM......It shows a lot of units you get in the game....I pressed the printscreen key when the results were displayed & than pasted it in an open office document.....Any idea how to upload it here ??????

@ Lionhard, Can't answer that for sure.....but in EAEM as macedon...there is a mercenary general for KH alongside Chermiondes......if I lay siege on Athens and attack than the mercenary general becomes reinforcements for KH....but if I attack at night than KH has no reinforcements at Athens......cause that general is not night battle capable......

lionhard

06-10-2009, 13:54

Yeh save it in paint as a JPEG file, it will then be stored in my pictures u can then choose manage attachments at the bottom when u make a post and chose to browse and upload the picture.

It has to be a JPEG btw so make sure u change it :P

P.s can ur generals aqquier the trait night attack or are they born with it?

Also are their any other traits unique to Alexander?

Roka

06-10-2009, 17:37

i might be being dumb here, but were do you install EAEM to?

is it your r:tw folder, or the EB folder?

Darth Revan

06-10-2009, 17:57

i might be being dumb here, but were do you install EAEM to?

is it your r:tw folder, or the EB folder?
@ Roka In your RTW folder......

@ Lionhard Nah, no other unique traits......I guess generals are born with Night battle capability........but I am not sure.......

Roka

06-10-2009, 19:13

@ Roka In your RTW folder......

@ Lionhard Nah, no other unique traits......I guess generals are born with Night battle capability........but I am not sure.......

thanks, i'd already figured it out though

everything is up and running

Darth Revan

06-10-2009, 19:47

Unfortunately my screenshot is a way to big so I can't upload......anyone knows how to manually resize it ????????????????????

Its a good screenshot otherwise.........

lionhard

06-10-2009, 20:37

I meant to ask, following reading some info on how factions act different with the alex engine, i read that some guy was casse and the rebels attacked him and killed casse, its also knowledge that naval invations r common.

Now my question is, on vanilla EB u never get casse coming onto mainland europe they dont even build ships also small islands including krete and sardin and cyprus never get invaded by the AI. Does using Alex change this?

Has any 1 experienced anything mad that would never happen on vanilla EB. (I say mad but its what shud actually happen if the game had a proper engine lol)

p.s i have no family members with the night attack ability the only family member i had with it died so what happends now will some 1 randomly spawn with night attack ability?

Maksimus

06-10-2009, 23:44

Hi,

ALL of the AI advantages are based on ALX.exe

However, since EB vanilla script dont give much air and life to AI enemy factions EAEM script gives in life and invasions and other start tweaks.

Aurgelmir

06-11-2009, 03:00

hi

Can somebody tell me why the copy/paste thing(shortcut) doesnt work...
I read almost 51 pages for 3 hours now...i really want so say lol now,but my face hurts doing it

I have a copy of rome upgraded to alexander
Installed EB...1.2...fixes
Then i installed EAEM.exe..with fixes
But then when i want to add the shortcut line...it wont let me..it doesn't recognize the path...or something like that(its in dutch here)

I read that you should change the shortcutlines before installing alexander
first:pls dont tell that is true
second:??? why...isnt there a way around it

First thing i thought when reading the first post....Yes..have bought alexander recently...this looks easy to install..like always

Of course by reading the few lines above,you will conclude that...always...wasn't there this time(damn vacation time)

Pls could someone help me with this...

btw...i also concluded,that i have to be an idiot,because 51 pages full of people got it to work

Again i want to try...lol...still hurts,especially around the left eyeball

Pls dont suggest to change target line,because it doesn't work here
What mistake did i made?

CarolvsAntonivs

06-11-2009, 21:02

Hi maks, for some rease i can't download the fixes, when i try to download it from filefront, it redirects me to the main page, can you fix that??? or can you upload to another filehost???

Maksimus

06-11-2009, 23:46

sure here are new fixes

http://www.zshare.net/download/61175411001c783e/

lionhard

06-12-2009, 00:12

Hi,

ALL of the AI advantages are based on ALX.exe

However, since EB vanilla script dont give much air and life to AI enemy factions EAEM script gives in life and invasions and other start tweaks.

Cant the alex engine get tweaked so it is better than vanilla eb?

also i have no family members with the night fight ability and i have never been attacked by night so whats the deal with it, is it ever used in campaign?

Cyclops

06-12-2009, 03:36

I am a bit sad because I have failed to get the Alex (and BI for that matter) for EB 1.2 to work.

I have completely scraped out all RTW and mods from my system. I then:

1. Installed RTW GE

2 Installed ALX

3 Installed EB 1.1

4 Installed EB 1.2

5 Installed fixes

6 Installed Alex for EB 1.2

7 Changed target (and made sure it had the right "start in" location) on the ALX shortie

FIVE TIMES.

Each time it loads up fine (nice'n'quick too) but I click on Main Campaign and it says "Choose an item from the list". Did the same when I tried to re-install EB for BI.

I put this down to my system being a bit long in the tooth, and suspect ETW has played some havoc with my system. By golly it was hard to get rid of it, and especially Steam, which seemingly ruined my M2TW install (totally bugged when I installed ETW, and now I can't uninstall some components, very angry it has made me).

I return to EB 1.2 without ALX or BI: its a fantastic mod, but I'm sad I didn't get to taste ALX. Maybe when I get my next machine in a year or two...

Aurgelmir

06-12-2009, 04:08

Maksimus can you tell me why i get the message...invalid line...when i copy/paste RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

lionhard

06-12-2009, 07:57

I didn't want to have to do this, but alright.

http://www.infinitemb.com/download/2395/Alex_on_EB_1.2_with_Link.zip/

Unzip this file to...say your desktop. Open the folder. Inside you will find two objects: 1) a shortcut called alxeb and 2) a folder named 'eb' (without quotes).

Before you proceed, make sure you have done the following:

Fresh install of RTW (do not install RTW into program files, install into a directory in root of your drive).

For convenience, let us assume we are installing Rome Total War into C:\RTW_EB

Patch RTW 1.3

Patch RTW 1.5

Install EB 1.1 into C:\RTW_EB

Patch EB 1.2 into C:\RTW_EB

EB 1.2 Fixes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=109936) (You will need to unzip these fixes into C:\RTW_EB\EB\Data. If you did this correctly you will be prompted with endless overwrite prompts...choose to overwrite all.)

Copy alex executable file (engine file with purple icon) from your Alexander CD into C:\RTW_EB

Copy 'eb' folder that I mentioned in the beginning into C:\RTW_EB where the EB folder from the EB installation is located.
This will prompt you to overwrite files that may be located within the original EB folder (checks for shared file names), choose Yes to overwrite all files.

Phew...now that you've done the bulk of the work, go back to the shortcut to the EB_Alex game that you found from the zip file you downloaded. Go to its properties page and if I remember correctly there are two important boxes named Target and Launch Path or just Path. Anyways, one points to ...\Rome - Total War\rtw-alex.exe or something along those lines. Change the first part to say C:\RTW_EB because THAT is where your ALEX engine file from your CD is located (you copied it in the beginning, remember?)
Do the same with the launch path (does not point to file, only should change from C:\Program files\activision\rome... to C:\RTW_EB).

Good luck and I hope this helps because I have not used this engine or EAEM mod for over a month (because I need vanilla EB 1.2 to play online with others...I find playing humans more fun than the campaign. You can still have a separate EB folder just for the Alex engine so you can campaign, but that's a long long story. I can't be bothered!)

Use this as guidance cyclops it worked for me ur probaly not doing something simple like dragging over the alex icon or installing data properly.

Also donnot instal alex the game into the same folder as ur going to use ur fresh copy of RTW with EB Make sure u make a fresh copy of rtw 1.5 to do modding

Aurgelmir

06-12-2009, 19:05

lionhard thx

My rtw folder..is 1.5,BI and alexander expansion

I will try to use only the 1.5 and copy the alx exe in there

Wierd thing is,that amazing first post....see here

In details:

1. Install Rome Total War + 1,3 and 1,5 patches.
2. Install Alexander expansion or extract the Alx.exe file only into your RTW folder.
3. Install EB 11 and EB 12.
4. EB fixes.

point 2 is really interesting...the first 3 words .. truly rocks

Pls update the first post,i think i'm not the only one here with problems to install this....and even i have modding experience...inmagine

But really thx..should have noticed his post....i read all 5fu**in1 pages
Guess it was to late or i.....to stoned

But does this also work with the EAEM mod?

vartan

06-13-2009, 01:53

Get up to RTW 1.5
Copy Alx.exe to RTW folder
Get up to EB 1.2 with fixes
Choose to install EAEM or Alx on EB 1.2
Create the appropriate shortcut
Play...

Aurgelmir

06-13-2009, 10:33

vartan thx again....
Its simple when reading your post,the first post should be also...:)

(maksimus)Change the first post pls,otherwise more noobs like me will ask you the same old shit all over again...i even read all pages for christ sake(not good enough though)

Some one should start a new thread about it...including faction progress..enzo

How about installing FD?
I read that it wont work with AlexEB..True?

Pfff....still the same....invalid target line...when i want to paste it....why? lol

And vartan what file is the .DS Store in your zip?

Edit:...i got it to work...pls dont ask...
I can tell you only that i dont know...must i smile or cry(refer:to the pls dont ask part)

uriel1987

06-13-2009, 22:06

Hi, i tried to install the full mod,when i install it without the last fixes all goes fine, but after i install the fixes in the front page(OFFICIAL FIXES Last update 17 april 2009 ) i receive an error message when loading and it returns to desktop.

uriel1987

06-13-2009, 23:04

Downloaded the fixes again and now works :dizzy2:

EDIT
I played some turns with chartage, the mod seems really well done and the Ia much improved. With the ai_dont_attack_faction feature and the stronger rebels i think i will see an much slower and historical espansion of the ai, wich is good, never liked Rome's conquest of scandinavia. The economy seems much better too, you can't simply swim in the money anymore. My only concern is about buildings. Raising the construction time a little, even double them, is good, but like now i think is too much. It's true that the construction of an Huge palace take dozens of years, but with the rtw system you can build only one thing at once, in this way you can't simply have enough development. Only the building of an palace, recruitment system and an harbour take like 120 turns/30 years, so you can't for example develope Capua like it was in the end of timeframe, with advanced aqueducts, advanced system of recruitment, forum, farms, palaces, huge harbours etc.

And here is the question :beam:
I had try to upgrade a city by cheating to test some things of the mod(arretium, by adding population and buildings) but seems that i can't build the palace needed to upgrade the city. That means that all the city will not be upgraded in the whole timeframe?
I think i will reduce all construction times by half, do you think it will screw the mod balance?

vartan

06-14-2009, 05:20

And vartan what file is the .DS Store in your zip?

Ignore those. Those are useless files, so is the MacOSx folder. These are only there because I made the zip file on my Macintosh computer. Sorry about the inconvenience.

-Vartan

lionhard

06-14-2009, 12:43

Guys im still currently playing EB with the alex engine and iv made a few tests to clear my mind and to be sure it actually is better AI.

I have vanilla EB on my laptop so i started a custom match on my pc with alex eb comparing to my laptop with vanilla eb and the exact same things happend every time. I played out like 6 or 7 battles with different units making surer everything was exactly the same. I thought Alex was supposed to act smarter?

So far in my campaign, Everything is playing out as normal and the same things r happening that hapend in the 20 other campaigns iv played out over the last year on vanilla EB.

Has any 1 got any suggestions how to test if this is better than vanilla EB? or if iv installed wrong?

Oh and P.S i had 1 general at the start of the game with night attack as koinon hellon and when he died i have none so i have never used night attack or had it used against me.

Is this the same 4 every 1 else or is it just me ?

KARTLOS

06-14-2009, 22:18

Cyclops

06-15-2009, 01:56

Use this as guidance cyclops it worked for me ur probaly not doing something simple like dragging over the alex icon or installing data properly.

Also donnot instal alex the game into the same folder as ur going to use ur fresh copy of RTW with EB Make sure u make a fresh copy of rtw 1.5 to do modding

Yep did all that. Step by step. Five times. Not going bonkers as a result, just a twitch in the left eyeball.

I appreciate all the kind advice given (Vartan in particular, but all of the advice is gratefully recieved) and I sadly resign myself to missing out.

My system was put together in 2001 or 02 by a mate, it has been absolutely top shelf for the duration but is now nearing the end. It ran ETW rather shakily and I doubt it will support the much anticipated SC2 so I'll have to budget in a new system soon.

Maksimus

06-15-2009, 03:00

@lionhard

Alex engine is not mod, its just engine. With engine files you need to have epic battles to get night battle traits to your generals.

@Aurgelmir

Hi, your target line is wrong pls see first page. In other case, first page is detailed since i had MUCH MUCH more complains when it was simple.

@uriel1987

Yes it will screw up balance.

lionhard

06-15-2009, 12:48

I have won lots of heroic victories and not got night attack?

Also none of the enemy have night attack seems a waste to have it in alex, i wonder if its used much in the alex campaign?

Also im only saying the AI is not very intelligent and versitile because at the start of this topic it states how amasing the AI changed with the alex engine.

Im not prepared to dl some sub mod that changes EB, theirs no info here about it and the whole reason i visit these forums is because of vanilla EB.

Alex was just supposed to change the AI to make it better and so far iv had no naval invasions, and havnt seen any evidence of troops being retrained.

Maybe iv installed it wrong?

But if all this other stuff works ok i must have installed it correctly right?

Can sum 1 give me sum feed back thx

Maksimus

06-15-2009, 17:05

@lionhard

Your questions and remarks are nice posted on wrong address, vanilla EB thread deals with issues of EB vanilla game its in other section of the forum.

However, even just changing target line is beneficial tho no night traits are set on start since its is vanilla eb.

Alx.exe AI has all the advantages that are posted on the main forum. Due to EB vanilla RTW.exe based setup in the script, most of the AI features are very hard to see by inexperienced players while playing vanilla EB using Alx.exe.

EAEM has gone to Total PC Gaming (UK) magazine writen by
Balbor (Creative Director of Forth Age:Total War).

This is the best mod online for EB that makes EB - ALXEB game.

I hope you try it one day :)

lionhard

06-15-2009, 21:49

maybe i will try it 1 day but for now ill stick with EB which iv played for over a year their is lots of information on the forum. Their is no info on this mod of urs and countless people are struggling to install it.

I am posting here about problems with alex enigne because at the start of this topic you kept lots of people on the edge of their seats with pics of changes in EB gameplay ect. My only question was to general public who have used this engine to see if they have the same problem as me or if it could be my install.

Im not a big modder hence spending over a week trying to install the alex engine thx to vartan i did it.

Maybe its all a coincidence but for the 10 or so campaigns iv carried out over 200 bc everything is playing out the same.

Maksimus

06-16-2009, 19:27

Hi,

As i wrote, and as it is, AI is better and its up to players to you use it.

EB vanilla script really does cripple AI and AI does not have enough population or coins to Expand to alx AI features in most cases (EAEM fix that). Actually you can see this improvements if enemy factions are rich not poor and or broke. In this case its really up to players to understand how EB vanilla works in consideration to the comments.

Almost every single RTW mod that comes out i get pm's from their devs and project leaders asking me how to implement alx.exe.

Other thing about install issues,

All issues ppl have had with installation are in the forum threads. And i have looked into it few times so far.

What I can say is this.
Alx.exe AI files and EAEM so far, (since 2007) combined with all eb expansions and links uploaded on the main page of this thread, is used by tens of thousands of ppl. And really only few people had issues.

Year ago when the thread was much more simple I had issues with ppl that wanted more details.

Satyros

06-16-2009, 23:59

Hey mate , pozdravlenja za tvoja rabota ( my pathetic attempt at srpski , based on my knowledge of bulgarski , hey at least I tried man :) , I 'm greek btw so don't throw stones at me , bulgarian is not my mother tongue either :P

I failed to understand however the changes implemented in EAEM from the first post , could you please elaborate a bit ? Is this modification stable ? How does your modification affect the smaller A.I. factions ? Any known issues ?

A link will suffice , the thread is too long for my slow internet connection .

I own a copy of Alexander TW , I 've bought the "eras" box , so I believe that I have all I need to enjoy your further modifications on the excellent mod that is EB , but I would like some info on EAEM first .

Thank you in advance .

Satyros

P.S. : Btw , on an off topic note , way to go on the basketball side of things , always have been a great admirer of certain Serbian players , also , thank you for Jelimir Obradovic , no really , thank you . He's the pride of every true and loyal fan of the greatest greek sports club , Panathinaikos , as soon as we establish ourselves as the greatest basketball team of all times in Europe ( titles-wise ) he will ascend to godhood status in the heart of every fan of our glorious club . Yep , another triple crown this year . Yes , that's us , glory glory ...

Maksimus

06-17-2009, 04:09

hi,

I never really had time to write much about EAEM, its just epic, credits themselfs say alot. But still, part of the marketing was up to others that dont work in team anymore. I suggest you try it, its much harder and interestiong :D

Fluvius Camillus

06-17-2009, 18:45

As my Total war series are an enourmous maze of installations, do I need to reinstall or can I change a file?

Thanks

~Fluvius

lionhard

06-19-2009, 07:58

It reccomends a fresh copy of RTW 1.5 so i have a spare copy of RTW 1.5 and then in my main copy the vanilla versions of rtw and alex and then i have mods such as EB and ROP

Edit: you might have to reinstall RTW to get a fresh copy for modding its hard to distinguish which files belong where when uv got all 3 of them in 1 file (if u have alex and bi installed that is)

Jorduan

06-22-2009, 19:53

Im sorry if this has been discussed before....

After installing and re-installing - I have had these 2 errors during the load up on the 2 different times....

"Script error in eb/data/export_descr_unit.txt ...... no model for generic ship baitaz"

" - - - rebel unit type eastern infantry indian spearmen not found in unit_db"

Can you please show me where I am going wrong?

Please bear in my mind that I am not a modder in any shape or form - seriously - I cant be bothered with that stuff.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Maksimus

06-24-2009, 11:50

its a generic error, you should reinstal your game RTW and EB and EAEM

Jorduan

06-24-2009, 18:12

I re installed using Program Files/ ACIVSION / rather than creative assembly and HEY PRESTO! it works

this is a very good engine - thanks very very much!!

BUT!!! now in my campaign I am crashing while loading a battle - as apparently the model for the Bosphoran Infantry is missing...... the file path stated that this would be in BI - which i dont have - will installing this solve the issue or am I in a sticky situation?

lionhard

06-24-2009, 23:15

Im doing a romani campaign atm and im having real trouble, macedonia has 9 full stack armies marching around slapping everything, they have stretched around dacia leaving them along due to them being allied, swarmed into the north to bospria (however u spell it) and have the whole of modern day turkey, segestia is my strong hold and i am just about holding them off. (its been 15 years and they r still throwing everything at me.

Meanwhile im struggling to gain territory in germany i seem to be defending on all frounts.

Im hoping averini dont attack me cas ill have to migrate to carthage (god knows how tough they are now they have been left alone for years and are taking ptolemaics lands which are vast.

Im on the edge of my seat but my main query is that macedonia are so strong is that due to me using alexander with EB can any 1 answer this?

Maksimus

06-25-2009, 13:45

@Jorduan

hi please download the fixes >D

@lionhard

Hi,

Only thing I can say is to battle Macedonia on their main army sources.. Pella Pergam Athens.. depens.

Being in defense will not do anygood

lionhard

06-25-2009, 21:59

its hard atm because i tryed blitzing the germans and they threw everything they had at me after counquering half their empire now they took back the north and i am too weak and the settlements i own are unhappy due to war tax, i can only afford to upkeep 4 full stack armies max. 2 of those are in germany and 2 are defending from macedonia. I need to kill germany before i can mass my units into macedonia but everytime i gain an extra foot they take it back, im fighting with mercenarys and few roman soldiers.

Dont get me wrong im loving it because its hard, but im scared because macedonia have 5 full stacks finishing epirus off, they r gonna slap me hard in a matter of years. Im already making plans to emmigrate to carthage with my entire empire.

Edit: the battles are easy enough when i have reasonable force but the enemies outnumber me.

This is down to me having a non attack policy until 250 bc lol

Maksimus

06-27-2009, 12:58

oh, i c

well if you dont start expand from the start and fight you may always end in these situations

hope your Africa helps tho

Galotta

06-27-2009, 18:35

hi @ all,

i am new here and have joined couse' of a BIG problem after installing the last fixes for "EB on ALEX" after my roman campain chrashes around 230 BC.

now there is an CTD saying "unspecified unit type roman legonary first cohort i in the export_dscr_buildings" and somthing about "no unit model for indian infantry in dscr_rebels ... "

eb is a great game and alex.exe is the best engine for it, so i would wish to continue playing, please help. :embarassed:

Maksimus

06-27-2009, 18:39

anyone else had same problems?

coz fixes are save game compatible, um

It may be you have used fix for EAEM and you are using one engine files.

Pls reinstall game :(

Galotta

06-27-2009, 18:49

thx for fast reply!

ok, i will do so :yes: but..is there any way not to mod the files for alex.exe manually? :sweatdrop:

Galotta

06-28-2009, 15:33

well, now it works well, i use eam now. but how can i get the window fullscreen? (vista)

Galotta

06-28-2009, 15:41

done... a real noobs prob :P

Maksimus

06-28-2009, 15:43

yes you just need to download the files from the main page

wisechild

07-05-2009, 17:25

Victory! Didn't rush except in the beginning to get out of the red. The way I micromanage everything it took me over a month, probably well over 70 hours... O_O Here's some stats in case someone is curious.

Setup: EB 1.2 + EAEM Full Mod
Faction: Arche Seleukia
Time: Summer 207
Turns: 66 * 4 = 264
Regions: 84
Money: 12 millions
Favorite unit: Armoured Elephants

Would have played more with all those recruitable in-town Chinese units in Sulek (far right below Saka) but discovered them way too late. (Those Jian Masters with 2 hit points, 15 Att , 35 Def, Frighten Enemy really look badass)

It was a challenging game especially in the beginning but there were a few annoyances. I never got attacked much and that for each city there is one full stack outside the wall that never moves (even after the city is taken by holding the town center for example). Oh and the rebels never attacked any city in my game. Oh and this point is more EB than Alex but the yearly history briefings are way too short and summarized, more like a reminder for someone already versed in history. "some general won took some city, period" Didn't retain much history that way. The units description are much more interesting.

And I'll answer my own question about the mine centers not generating income for example Antiocheia it is not true, I did the math and they do. It's just that you can't see it in the settlement details when the numbers get too high. ^_^

Maksimus

07-05-2009, 17:55

wisechild

07-05-2009, 19:46

ok I have few questions o.o

whats the difficulty level you played on and did you fight your battles or autoresolve.

Beside that, the enemy not moving and attacking may be the lvl of difficulty, since medium battles is normal but Very Hard Campaign is a must for the AI :(

oh ahd

GIMEEE SCREEN SHOTS XD

Very Hard Campaing and Medium Battle
Fought every battle. Reloaded when I lose except naval and small sacrifices ;)
https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8098/73701791.jpg (https://img191.imageshack.us/i/73701791.jpg/)

https://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4015/41116135.jpg (https://img182.imageshack.us/i/41116135.jpg/)

And here's one from my humble beginnings after I just took Baktria. My only chance in this battle was to hold the town center which I did after several tries. You can see that the outside defending army just freeze after that.

https://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6859/73708321.jpg (https://img182.imageshack.us/i/73708321.jpg/)

And here's that same defending army in the same spot again 66 years later in my end save, now gone rebel of course since Baktria as a faction is long gone.

https://img107.imageshack.us/img107/9861/68650409.jpg (https://img107.imageshack.us/i/68650409.jpg/)

Notice also how most the map stays rebel, I noticed with my spies that AI factions have a very hard time conquering rebels, losing almost every battle until the rebel army is mostly gone. Only Rome has some limited success and that's only about 5 rebel towns in 66 years. I have to say my hardest fights were always against rebels, not a faction. Mostly due to the quality of troops.

My last battle and heroic victory (lost 1/3 of my elephants). Here my reinforcements were only 13 Hellenic Skirmishers.

https://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7717/55772665.jpg (https://img107.imageshack.us/i/55772665.jpg/)

And here's the enemy army and my pitiful reinforcements.

https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3864/49110813.jpg (https://img90.imageshack.us/i/49110813.jpg/)

Maksimus

07-08-2009, 18:39

the reinforcements up there didnt load up ingame battle for 2 reasons - 1 preferences (unlimited men on the battlefield - its txt preferences) - 2 your PC can not handle that much men on the battlefield (which is most common reason those kind of armies dont load)

They are set there so that AI dont teke certain locations to fast therefore unblance the game on the long run. Ussually in all my battles that army shows up, its one of the other reason.

satalexton

07-10-2009, 09:56

curiosity, why weren't there crossbowmen within the seres armies? they were the staple of their armies in that period...

Maksimus

07-11-2009, 04:36

i have answer for that, its about skeletons - game engine (eb skeletons dont have crosbow), and what i saw at that time, when they passed and invaded from sources on net and books. They didnt take crosbows then to Baktria but archers and horsmen.. well dunno for 100% but was imposible to add croswbows

fleaza

07-18-2009, 07:52

Darth Revan

07-18-2009, 10:28

im having the same problem. being that the factions dont actually expand due to the pure ownage that the rebels are. could you tell me how to mod the game so that the rebels are weaker? my most difficult battles were against the rebels as well and i usually fight them around 2 times before i actually beat them. its not really that fun fighting rebels over and over. i actually started to miss fighting other factions.

the getai hadnt moved by the time i got to them in 225 bc. i came with 5 stacks and wiped them out with 1 battle where i attacked the enemy base and won.

so yeah, if there is a way to weaken the rebels id really like to know how.
You could always remove elite units from rebels armies (except prestigious cities & famous generals) like I did by modding descr_strat & you can deprive them of the ability to train elite units......I did that because it really sucked to see rebel generals commanding Hetairoi......

Maksimus

07-18-2009, 11:08

Hi,

Most of the issues about rebels are random and its depending on which faction you play with.

Than if your settings are not on very hard campaign settings, that can be 1 more issue, and it may happen you are just that good and you advance before enemy factions :idea2:

fleaza

07-18-2009, 12:02

Maksimus

07-18-2009, 12:06

Hi,

Yes very hard campaign is AI max capacity, but I could not set it that as default, didnt know how D:

fleaza

07-19-2009, 05:43

its not really helping much. ive just played 80 years on VH/m and the ai has only expanded 2-4 regions each. i really think you need to weaken the rebel stacks.

Maksimus

07-19-2009, 09:40

send me screen shot's

if really 80 years passed (means 360 turns) and now should be 192bc and factions are expanding, than its good. Most of those factions in history never expanded at all :book:

Darth Revan

07-20-2009, 06:31

@maksimus: oh so you want us to play on very hard difficulty? that will make ai start expanding?

@darth_revan: descr_strat file? yeah i just chekced it. there is way too many things to mod if i want to cut down rebel stacks. i just want to get playing you know? could you upload your modded descr strat file?
I can upload the file.......but can you suggest any good place to upload.......plus, I've mainly modified the hellenic armies as they were the ones who had rebels commanding Hetairoi as I don't have much idea about the elite units of other factions......so you may not prefer it.....
Main changes are removal of all hellenic faction elite units from the rebel armies & replacing them with strong but not the elite units like Pergamnon's generals have their Argyraspides replaced with traditional Pzehtairoi........

Maksimus

07-22-2009, 16:36

Image shack is good :D

Atraphoenix

07-28-2009, 10:00

Maximus, are you interesting in merging my mod with your main mod.?
Though current manual file replacing system works but it would be better to merge the files for my RS Legions on your mod.

Maksimus

07-29-2009, 02:07

sure, can you make link mini instaler?

so i put in on main page?

Like use EAEM base and upload mini instaler for your mod that sound ok?

Oh but pls include the Fixes in your instaler

Atraphoenix

07-29-2009, 10:58

sure, can you make link mini instaler?

so i put in on main page?

Like use EAEM base and upload mini instaler for your mod that sound ok?

Oh but pls include the Fixes in your instaler

I even have unofficial trait bug fixes in my installation.
the problem is I used LZ3's adaptation of your mod so I have no idea on your basic files.
and no idea which files he changed.
so my install may have lz3's files of your mod on your vanilla...:sweatdrop:
so a complete reinstalation of EB is necessary.
So I will have time at the weekend if my files does not make any problem on your vanilla, I may upload it easily.

Maksimus

07-29-2009, 16:05

Atraphoenix

07-29-2009, 21:01

We can only add link as installer for players that want to your RS Legion's, as mini installer that players can use over the eaem they play, and it must be save game compatible.

But I kinda see it cant work very well unless you manually remove the EDU and EDB lines for legions that are in and then adjust it in start files with correct resources.

:juggle2:

EDU, EDB and DMB files main txts are easy part; I have no problem with that but my adaptation itself has double memory than your files nearly 250 mb I need to reduce the size to make it easier, but I do not know how or what program can enable to reduce its size without losing any data. :sweatdrop:
nearly half size of EB :help:

At the moment I am waiting frontie to allow me to download your main file :wall: zshare had no problem I have downloaded your fixes already. I hope frontie is not deleting your main file again :wall:

P.S. How many entries did you leave in EDU? Did you use up all?

Maksimus

07-30-2009, 19:32

Atraphoenix

07-31-2009, 08:57

yes all EDU entries are used up, you will need to replace manually every single unit with the existing one

Overall, its very hard to implement anything in EAEM

edit: Means that existing legionaries units needed only to be replaced by DMB model, UI, in EDU and EDB, than descr start and campaign script.. ...erm etc etc

I know the procedure :yes: thanks for info :beam:
the problem at the moment I cannot download your main file from frontie :wall:

Edited: Finally frontie started to work normal again.
the only problem left is I should learn how to use Install creator in a day :yes:
maybe self hypnosis :laugh4:

jerby

07-31-2009, 19:28

Can anybody please help out a modding-semi-newbie?

If I just want the improved AI, not all the new fancy stuff (I desperately want to finish a campaign;)) I can Just Slam the ALEX.exe file from my CD into my EB folder and put all files on the "EB12_on_alx.exe!" folder into my EB folder?
Will I risk my campaign?

mountaingoat

08-01-2009, 09:08

just to back up what has already been said ... When editing the file descriptions for a mortal FM and night battles , make sure you are not using standard windows wordpad .

vartan

08-01-2009, 10:00

just to back up what has already been said ... When editing the file descriptions for a mortal FM and night battles , make sure you are not using standard windows wordpad .

You don't want to use wordpad or notepad in critical file changes, such as those that might be affected negatively by formatting (e.g. file descriptions for Rome: Total War). Try Notepad++.

Atraphoenix

08-02-2009, 14:24

Is not there any other way to add more units, I like your units, It will be a torture for me to choose the victim units :no:
I hate those limitations, they increased the model why did not they increase EDU limit :wall:

Maksimus

08-02-2009, 18:12

You can just try to make mini submod for eaem, but for sure I cant work on it, nor I can fix bug's or anything like that, i suggest you only replace Battle Models from EDU, and UI's - thats it, replace existing legion's with others you want, only in EDU models and US'- description etc

Atraphoenix

08-03-2009, 08:26

I already given up using First Cohorts. So just normal named legion. If I use EB's preatorian EDU with my model, then I finally worry about 35 models.
some ships may fit...
or abandoned units golidic something like that "the hammerman" if they are still in EDU.
I am quite happy with your models :sweatdrop: even some are historically incorrect (I mean time) :laugh4:
At the moment I am checking all EDU entries to see which ones are already omitted by dev team in EDB.
will be very long... :skull:

jerby

08-03-2009, 17:22

EDIT: nevermind, it was a pretty silly question... I found the 'show' button with detailed instructions...

Is EEAM easier to install, or does it require the same ammount of modding? I'm just bad at it, I can't help it...

Maksimus

08-03-2009, 20:27

Atraphoenix

08-03-2009, 20:54

@jerby
hi, just use install instructions Eaem is uploaded as instaler

@Atraphoenix
Hi,

I dont think you understand what I was saying, let me make it more simple.

You use RS UI's and Battle models in DMB (there is space there) and you only Re-place Solider model txt line in EDU, for already set Legion's. And you will have Eaem with RS Legion look's.

However when you set UI's you will have to rename the description of UI's or just overwrite the existing ones.

I cant imagine what more to say but to do it myself, I just dont have the time sry :whip:

I see what you mean but It is a torture for me to cut even one of your units, they are all great jobs :yes: so I have already planned to replace republican 13 legion with ships you have 27 so I left 14 ships
ı need 22 more if I leave as they are I will only add 13 republican legions on EAEM on ships' entries.
later I may cut 22 more for -Imperial Legions as well.

jerby

08-03-2009, 21:00

Damnit,
I paste alx.exe, I install eaem, I paste all the stuff in the 'fixes',

I change the Link in the "Run europa Barbarorum" link.
I click the link, but it doesn't do anything.

I click "play single player", it loads, I see the alexander loading screen. Then just "pop" away it goes...
what happened? what could it have been?

Maksimus

08-03-2009, 21:06

@jerby

o.o

In details:

1. Install Rome Total War + 1,3 and 1,5 patches.
2. Install Alexander expansion or extract the Alx.exe file only into your RTW folder.
3. Install EB 11 and EB 12.
4. EB fixes.

a) To play EB with only improved engine you need use
5. ALX engine files.

b) If you want to play full modification you need to use
5. EAEM files.
5a. EAEM fixes.

6. Change the target line of EB.exe single player.

jerby

08-03-2009, 21:18

I did 1 to 3
I check, eb 1.2 ran perfectly.
I only have 1 enige file from alex though... are there more?

as for step 4, where can I find them?

And another thing... I have two shortcuts I can find "Run europa barbarorum" and "play single player"
The first targets "C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\RomeTW.exe" -mod:eb -show_err

the second "C:\Program Files\EBTrivialScript\EBTrivialScript.exe" -s ebconfig.xml -runeb -type "Single Player"

What Do I change?

Maksimus

08-05-2009, 06:44

k heres example how mine look's

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Rome - Total War\rometw-alx.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

SuperGosc

08-05-2009, 20:50

Fixed

Maksimus

08-05-2009, 20:58

you need working exe*

jerby

08-06-2009, 08:53

I...I....I think it's working....
The only clue's I have is that the loading screen says 'alexander' at the bottum when I start, and the 'options screen' says EB is on 1.2 and rtw on 1.9 (?)

Thanks for all your help guys, just one lats question:
Do I need to copy chat_filter.san if I only use thre engine and engine files? What does it do?

Maksimus

08-06-2009, 10:08

Hi,

Please read 1 post on this thread it is all there ty :book:

jerby

08-06-2009, 12:55

Thanks guys, it's running! yippie for me! :)

However, I do have a script problem...
https://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1108/muchomoney.th.png (https://img263.imageshack.us/i/muchomoney.png/)
When I close down I get an error message saying that at EB/Data/script/Show_me/EBBS_script he doesn't knwo the trait at line 177.
The trait is "EnemyCampCaptured".

I'm guessing it's related, because if I open the console window and see all used codes, all I see is "Add_money_Greek_cities", 10000 in total or so...

What do I do? (I don't want the money, I want the AI to get it ;~))

Maksimus

08-07-2009, 05:50

Eaem is designed as stand alone mod, if you have any other mods or EB12 official updates that overwrite eaem files mod wil not work :juggle2:

jerby

08-07-2009, 09:10

Maksimus

08-07-2009, 12:13

Well, that's the weird part, I'm only using the engine, I did:

-instal RTW, patch RTW 1.3 1.5 (check if it ran, it did)
-install Alexander add on, check to see it ran, it did
-EB 1.1 and 1.2
-EB 1.2 fixes for Aex, got it from https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=105242, http://www.filefront.com/Alx+pack3exe/;13801168;/fileinfo.html
-copied the "EB_on_Alx1.2" data to my eb folder
-copied chat_filter.san and ran the show again.... and it did....

When I start up I see the 'alexander' at the bottum of the loading screen, and I get the 'attempt night battle' tick box, so I'm definatly using alx.exe.

But the script seems messed up....and I don't know why....

Ok, the red marked part is not in insturctions, nor is the source supported by me. Maybe you should ask Lz3

This is how it works :

1. Install Rome Total War + 1,3 and 1,5 patches.
2. Install Alexander expansion or extract the Alx.exe file only into your RTW folder.
3. Install EB 11 and EB 12.
4. EB fixes.
5. EAEM.
5a. EAEM fixes.
6. Change the target line of EB.exe single player.

All from the main thread

jerby

08-07-2009, 14:33

Ok, the red marked part is not in insturctions, nor is the source supported by me. Maybe you should ask Lz3

This is how it works :

1. Install Rome Total War + 1,3 and 1,5 patches.
2. Install Alexander expansion or extract the Alx.exe file only into your RTW folder.
3. Install EB 11 and EB 12.
4. EB fixes.
5. EAEM.
5a. EAEM fixes.
6. Change the target line of EB.exe single player.

All from the main thread

these fixes(bold) are not those fixes? I'm confused...

Anyway, I got it running though, the entire problem was the Spoils Of Victory submod in those fixes, it didn't install all their stuff in the traits and vnv_enums and stuff...
However, the instructions supplied with it were good enough to help me.

Maksimus

08-08-2009, 06:39

Hi,

Everything you need to use the mod and play is on this thread, you may have issues with your game if you support game problems on other threads :juggle2:

TheStranger

08-08-2009, 17:38

Hi, does anyone expect problems showing some letters when playing the Sweboz?

Here is the link to my problem:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2309333#post2309333

Has obviously sth to do with the installation of alex.exe, cause this file was changed. Any clues or could anyone send the file who knows it is working in his game?

Maksimus

08-09-2009, 09:50

some txt issues may occur but they are not as important to gameplay, those kind of issues happened due to EB team lack of support to mini mods. For example, no one really know what txt programs they used to edit txt files until much later.

TheStranger

08-09-2009, 11:42

So you have the same problems?

Maksimus

08-09-2009, 11:46

yes, its not a bug but a matter of txt issues .. due to upper mentioned one's, I have tho manually fixed hundred's.. some may have just.. well not fixed :whip:

TheStranger

08-09-2009, 15:14

Ah ok, thank you. It's not a big problem, didn't plan to play Sweboz in the future.

SuperGosc

08-10-2009, 23:44

I am playing Pontus with Alex.exe and for some reason almost every battle I enter or finish, the game crashes. Also I try to take some cities and when I pick what i want to do to the population it crashes. Now i have been playing with Kart-hadast for sometime and I had maybe 2 crashes. Is there a FIX for this probelm or anything else I can do to lessen the CTD?

Maksimus

08-11-2009, 07:31

Its not about the *exe its about your game and PC :wall:

SuperGosc

08-11-2009, 10:53

I didn't have probelms with my other campaign, but could it be windows vista?

Maksimus

08-11-2009, 13:25

nope, it may be that you have some other mods or you need to reinstall the game tho :/

Atraphoenix

08-11-2009, 14:38

modding EDU, EDB, and traits are very popular so any mod that mods them simply kills this mod.
I am the only person who modified ancillaries (so far) and movement points so my EOM and Realist movement mod is compatible with any EB mod.
but nearly %90 of the EB mods modifies one of this files.

also EBBS (EB scripting) modding is very popular as well..

Whatever Scortamareva

08-11-2009, 18:54

Supergosc, if you make a shortcut for your EB and add -show_err onto the end and see what comes up you might be closer to finding out what's wrong.

To be honest though, you're probably better off just uninstalling and replacing with your backup.

If you're not up for that, have a look here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=90267) and see if it helps

Atraphoenix

08-11-2009, 20:26

Maximus please add this file to your fixes.
I have fixed some trait errors in your trait file.

here is my thread link

Unofficial Alexander EB Trait Fix by Atra (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2311934#post2311934)

here is my trait fix link

fixed Trait file (http://www.filefront.com/14259283/export_descr_character_traits.txt//)

P.S. After I keep getting some crashes I paused my conversion on your vanilla.
I think that's because descr_strat file that you described or added the units I deleted in it.
BTW at the moment I am busy to discover your units that you have added in your mod.
This week I can upload Republican Legions (13 marian legion) without first cohorts of course after I found where did you put that units in your strat files.
so I am indecisive at the moment to add the other 22 Augustan/Emperial legions or not.
It will be a conversion but frontie limited to 600 MG per upload so I think I should cut some of my mods to have some more space.

At the moment I feel myself as an executioner; I am making some black list on which units will be sacrificed.
BTW I hope this trait fix will help to cure some CTDs.

Atra

Maksimus

08-11-2009, 22:24

What kind of fixes are they?

Atraphoenix

08-12-2009, 08:49

What kind of fixes are they?

I have added some missing ";" and fixed some code errors.

Maksimus

08-12-2009, 15:37

ok, i added it didnt test so i hope its ok :idea2:

Atraphoenix

08-12-2009, 17:11

ok, i added it didnt test so i hope its ok :idea2:

you can test the traits, the ancillaries with Traits and Ancillaries File Validator yourself. :2thumbsup:
here is the link if you are interested : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=670

This verificator saved my EOM many times :yes:

I use Squid's last version but I failed to find its link. This one is malribius' edition.
I can send you my copy of Squid's version if you like bug hunting.

Maksimus

08-14-2009, 16:59

that fix is just removing txt its not a bug fix? i dont know anyone that had any issue tho I did add it lol

Titus Marcellus Scato

08-14-2009, 17:29

Hi Maksimus,

I've been away for a while, and just wanted to ask a question about the ALX mod for EB.

I was very interested in this mod originally, but left it alone in the end because I didn't like the idea of the AI retraining its units, because I thought that it could mean a defeated army could retreat into a city right after the battle (as it does if it has enough movement points left) and then retrain all its units and be back up to its full strength straight away at the start of my next turn, while my army is still heavily depleted - basically negating all of my achievement in winning the battle.

Is this what actually happens in your mod?

I never retrain units myself, I always raise new ones to reinforce them, merging the depleted units with the new recruits. It seems better that way, because when you merge experienced units with new ones, the experienced unit drops in experience. So I never get triple-gold-chevron units in my armies, I rarely get a single silver chevron.

The Alexander expansion was tweaked for Alexander's blitz campaign against Persia, fighting all the way - but I prefer a very slow, quiet, economy-building EB campaign experience, more Sim Ancient City than Total War, with battles few and far between. My ideal is 90% of turns passing peacefully with no battles at all.

Can ALX create that experience for me, or is it better for 'blitz' style gameplay?

Atraphoenix

08-14-2009, 19:19

I can say that AI expend very slowly on vanilla Alex EB, but not me lol :laugh4:
I have added victory conditions mod to add more expansion by AI. I hope that helps.

Maksimus

08-14-2009, 22:13

Hi,

AI expansion depends on the overall balance of the game and start map power share, in all my tests even little wrong tweak on the start map can disbalance the progress etc.. but lets get back to the question.

@Titus Marcellus Scato -

''triple-gold-chevron'' units are a myth; AI only retrains units that can fit in the city it does not move units from the city out of the city so that another army would enter - retrain itself and than sailed away against the Enemy - its not like that, its much more realistic - In Eaem Ai ussually has towns half or full of units already, AI wont pull back units from distant lands and retrain them no matter how elite they are; and it can only retrain as much soldiers if it has 1- money 2- population in the city to do so 3- space to add units in and IF it does so its done usually by agressive faction with affinities of Caesar in start files i belive

And btw, Eaem AI and player do not have ability as in Vanilla EB to make army and city barracks everywhere, but in only few locations, so most units that are retrained overall are not as important. :juggle2:

Atraphoenix

08-16-2009, 10:59

plus I can say that ALEX AI does not often retrain, and I retrain my troops so I have no problem if AI does it as well.

on the other hand I think Victory conditions mod helps AI expansion a little bit, but do not expect miracles. so it deserves a try.

JinandJuice

08-17-2009, 07:27

Ok, so I'm trying to get EAEM to work. Lots of trouble I have encountered...

I have done EVERYTHING instructed. Fixes, bug fixes, etc. Chat filter.san was already there, and I overwrote the exact same file, so it seems. I even redid the whole process. I am almost completely out of ideas. The only thing I can think of is reinstalling eb, but 1.1 is like a gig big in size, so I want to try that as a last resort. Besides, I don't think that's even the problem, as eb1.2 works fine. HALP!!:help:

Btw, is there a way I can uninstall this mod?

Maksimus

08-17-2009, 18:09

Hi,

I just dont know what else to add than what is on the main page, good luck :shame:

JinandJuice

08-18-2009, 08:04

Just reinstalled EB1.1. Still the exact same problem. HALP!!

Update: EB1.2 works fine, except the loading screens, trading ships, and campaign sea textures (as far as I know for now) are Alex'd.

Maksimus

08-18-2009, 10:52

Hi, ok I help you

This is from the main page

1. Install Rome Total War + 1,3 and 1,5 patches.
2. Install Alexander expansion or extract the Alx.exe file only into your RTW folder.
3. Install EB 11 and EB 12.
4. EB fixes.
5. EAEM files.
5a. EAEM fixes.
6. Change the target line of EB.exe single player.

>Go to EB shortcut - left clck on the shortcut and chose properties - then - change the Target by copy-paste method

"...\Rome - Total War\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

If you have problems please download EB.exe with already set target line http://www.MegaShare.com/1330179

JinandJuice

08-19-2009, 05:16

nothing. i even reinstalled the whole rtw, bi, alex exe and eb plus 1.2 and fixes. exact same CTD during campaign load.
let me get some things straight:
you install EAEM in Program Files\Rome - Total War, correct? not Program Files\Rome - Total War\EB\?
which shortcut do you use to start the game? alex.exe, rometw.exe or eb singleplayer?

EDIT: oh great, after uninstalling EAEM i tried playing eb single player and my mss32.dll is now missing. very fun indeed. now i have to reinstall rtw again.

Maksimus

08-19-2009, 12:46

I have no idea where is the prob :juggle2:

ok here is how it works the path of the exe

"<drive letter>:\<directory path you've installed RTW into>\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

fleaza

08-20-2009, 12:02

"D:\Rome - Total War\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander -ne " -ne

i installed RTW in D drive so you can just replace everything from D:/rome - total war/ and replace it with your install directory.

i play in windows mode so i put -ne in there. i put it in twice because sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. if you play full screen mode then take it out.

plastictree

08-24-2009, 04:01

I was just wondering whether the reforms for EAEM are the same as regular EB?

Also, I'm very much liking this mod so far - apart from the better battle AI and diplomatic model (from what I can see), I'm already at about 250BC and most factions have only taken one or two additional provinces at most, unlike the normal situation at 250BC in regular EB where either AS or the Ptolemy has blitzed most of Asia.

Maksimus

08-24-2009, 05:46

I think reforms are the same :book: there are some added stuff too :yes:

fleaza

08-24-2009, 07:15

maksimus, is it possible to install fanatics phalanx mod? id like to install it to have more realistic or better looking hoplites.

Maksimus

08-24-2009, 09:05

that mod changes the distance of soldiers and formation of Units? .. if so Eaem already has those things tweaked so more organised units have their soldiers closer.. :book:

Grade_A_Beef

08-26-2009, 05:57

Can someone give me beginner's instruction with the engine? The instructions keep saying ALX engine files, but being clueless with programming, I can't recognize or find it. Whenever I follow the instructions it just leaves me with the "please select an item from the list" when I click Campaign.

not looking for the full mod here, in case I'm not clear (I've been confusing myself with the instructions.)

Maksimus

08-26-2009, 16:31

hi,

yes just read the main page and instal the moddification or just use alx.exe, btw you have to have working *exe to play the game:juggle2:

Maksimus

08-26-2009, 16:37

anyone had prob with

Untested fix by Atraphoenix
export_descr_character_traits.7z - 0.33MB ???? Someone from TW center did

Grade_A_Beef

08-30-2009, 20:52

Working *exe means installed *exe, right? Or does it mean something else?

I managed to get my hands on the file from my friend who has this mod, but everytime I try playing I get that blasted "please select an item from the list" whenever I go to the campaign.

:furious3:

Tetoaku

08-31-2009, 14:41

Hi, this is my 1st message here and hope not the last.

Maksimus, thanks for using your time to create this mod. It's simply the best. I've played 3 roman campaigns, the last one till the year 10BC when i could reach to all roman goals, and it has been fun for months. Only the time of construction for major buildings makes the game less atractive because that causes AI not to get better troops till late game, and you have to play same battles against levies again and again for too much time. My only complaint is that and the use of Citymod, but are minor complaints.

And 2 minor bugs i found: "Libian general" and "Baktrian Late Bodyguard" are shown as peasants, and "Catapultae"-"Scorpiones" statistics are wrong, "Catapulatae" is supposed to have more attack and it has less than "Scorpiones", isn't it?

Maksimus

08-31-2009, 16:34

hi can you please post screen shot of those missin UI's , now I am not sure which are missing :book:

Tetoaku

08-31-2009, 21:47

https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9628/rometwalx20090831223512.th.png (https://img136.imageshack.us/i/rometwalx20090831223512.png/)
https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4757/rometwalx20090831223656.th.png (https://img511.imageshack.us/i/rometwalx20090831223656.png/)

Tetoaku

08-31-2009, 22:00

And what about Catapultae-Scorpiones problem?

Maksimus

09-01-2009, 13:14

Tetoaku

09-01-2009, 13:36

the fist baktrian issue is fixed its in official fixes, second is new tho, and the cata scorpio issue is just fine its about the size of the canon, designed to let walls last longer etc

Eaem is not using City mod tho, we have more complex system of limits, making more strategic and start capitals able to be huge with many more settlements around the world, then others for large and city size, but i see your point. I think o.O in my campaigns AI use good trops if its hard difficulty, consider that with starting armies being so heavy D:

I'm using the last fixes and still have the peasants image in the pool for the baktrian as seen on image.
I always play on very hard, and the heavy starting armies maybe are too much heavy for the AI at some places because some rebels just drain the reinf of some factions, Sweboz are the example. But they assault, on the late game, Casse islands with canoes! :beam:

Maksimus

09-02-2009, 01:13

can you try these now and tell if it works?
http://www.MegaShare.com/1396124

Tetoaku

09-02-2009, 10:16

No, it doesn't work. Libian general hasn't got his image at all and the baktrian only on his statistics page but not in the pool.

Dunadd

09-02-2009, 20:17

Hi - I'm playing EB 1.2 with the Alexander Engine (but not the mod) and i can't see any trade fleets or caravans moving about at all in it - this is dozens of turns into the game with lots of ports, roads and markets built. Also the AI seems very passive so far. Is this all normal or is there something wrong with my installation?

Dunadd

09-02-2009, 21:33

Also when i built client state in one city - which in EB usually gets you a client ruler - there was no client ruler. It changed the Carthaginian family member i had there into the client ruler instead. I can build Greek mercenary general there, but when i did he was a Carthaginian, which will be confusing later.

And city wall upgrades that normally get you extra happiness in EB don't seem to know.

Does any of EB work with the Alx engine?

(I have trivial script installed - should i uninstall it?)

Dunadd

09-02-2009, 22:03

In fact it's changed all of my family members governing cities into client rulers now - even the ones in Homeland provinces, including my faction leader in Carthage - and i didnt build any new government for any city except Syracuse :cry:

Is this a fault you always get trying to use EB with Alex.exe ?

Raygereio

09-03-2009, 09:17

Is this a fault you always get trying to use EB with Alex.exe ?
No. EB can be played just fine on alex.exe.

In answer to your last three posts:
> I can't remember for sure if alex.exe doesn't show trade caravans; I'll have to check, but I think it does, so I have no clue what the problem there is.
> Passive AI; in my experience the alex.exe has the smartest campaign map AI, but you can still get passive AI at times. To be fair, usually you'll have to wait at least a couple of years ingame before you start to see some expansion.
Also, try using the win conditions minimod; again, you will get a extremely passive AI sometimes, but I think it does help a bit.
> Is there a city wall upgrade that gives a happines bonus? Large stone walls should give you a law bonus. If it doesn't, then you've either messed up the export_descr_buildings.txt file, or done something else weird.
> Client rulers; EB1.2 doesn't automatically give you a client ruler anymore. Instead client rulers are handled through recruitable generals.
If everything works as it should, here's what should happen:
- Build a type 4 government
- If you have a FM (easily recognizeable by the "Family Member" trait) in the town, you should get the "Interloper" trait that causes unrest in your new allied state. Not smart, remove the FM from the allied state.
- The type 4 government allows you to recruit a general type unit; recruit one and leave him in the town. Congratulations, you've just got yourself a client ruler. Note that client rulers can only govern allied states (type 4 governments; with any other government they get negative trait that cause unrest, etc).
Sadly while the bodyguard of the recruited general will be region specific, the portrait, name and traits he gets are tied to the your faction.
> Your FM's turning into client rulers: Are you trying to load an save from EB 1.1 or earlier on EB1.2? Please stop that. EB1.2 is not save game compatible with saves from earlier builds. The biggest problem you'll get are messed up traits like this.

Maksimus

09-04-2009, 09:17

No, it doesn't work. Libian general hasn't got his image at all and the baktrian only on his statistics page but not in the pool.

i think i know what the prob is, its about the EDU general descr and DMB, ... which isnt good coz EDU cant be expanded anymore.. if you can fix it let me know tho :book:

Tetoaku

09-04-2009, 10:11

i think i know what the prob is, its about the EDU general descr and DMB, ... which isnt good coz EDU cant be expanded anymore.. if you can fix it let me know tho :book:

I don't know how to mod it :oops:

Raygereio

09-04-2009, 10:28

i think i know what the prob is, its about the EDU general descr and DMB, ... which isnt good coz EDU cant be expanded anymore.. if you can fix it let me know tho :book:
Eh? How is a unitpicture not showing up caused by the DMB, or the limit on the EDU?
Unless I'm missing something here, the game just check the dictionary line in the EDU and then looks for a file called "#<dictionary line>.tga" in the faction folder under UI/Units folder and one called "<dictionary line>_info.tga" in the same folder under UI/Unit_info folder.
As long as the picture is there, with the right name, in the right folder; the picture should show up.

Maksimus

09-04-2009, 11:23

its because of the general_unit status, and general_unit upgrade and coz same unit is used for few types for cavarly, I have checked it.. tho dont have time to mod atm, i would need to add 1 more description in EDU to make UI show up with np

Raygereio

09-04-2009, 11:51

*scratches head*
Hrm, honestly that still doesn't make any sense to me.

The entries in the DMB and the general_unit and general_unit_upgrade attributes don't have anything to with the UI pictures.
At least I've never seen anything to suggest that; now, I don't use your full alexmod, I just use the alex.exe, so I haven't looked at what Tetoaku's problem could be. But are you sure the problem isn't just that if the picture is present, it's either named incorrectly, or just misplaced in the wrong folder?
If it isn't that, then could you describe what the problem is? Because I'm curious.

Maksimus

09-04-2009, 15:58

erm... how to explain, ... mod has recruitable generals using same models diff names but same descr so they would not be mixed.. see.. Family members from the start use the First general_unit unit of its ownership in the EDU line, that is why all other recruitable generals come as ALXEB_etc general_unit only after the first one that we want to be as faction one.. DMB has more spots but EDU is full, if its generic error.. as.. it may seem (unless i add that ui in every folder.. to see) .. only way to fix it is adding 1 more EDU spot or in this case 2 for missing generals that have issues with description via UI.. also it can be that the UI folder is just named diff which I doubt :juggle2:

Raygereio

09-04-2009, 18:15

I'm going to be honest here, I realise English isn't your first language - it isn't mine either - but I have no clue what you tried to tell me in that post.

If a faction "A" can recruit a unit, they need the picture for that unit in the folder named "A" under UI/Unit_info and UI/Units. Or if the unit uses the mercenary slot, it needs to be in the merc folder there.
So, if you have a recruitable general that any faction can recruit, unless it uses the merc slot, it's picture needs to be in every faction's folder.

Missing units pictures has - as far as I know - nothing to do with the hardcoded limits on the EDU or DMB.

Maksimus

09-04-2009, 21:29

yea, its bit more complicated in these cases since its a general_unit, btw can anyone else confirm this UI issue? Since on my PC they arent missing :inquisitive:

Maksimus

09-05-2009, 11:19

@Tetoaku

mail me your savegame pls

Dunadd

09-06-2009, 23:42

(moved to a thread of its own)

Maksimus

09-07-2009, 02:06

Hello,

Please remove this post and start a separate thread about this issue, AlxEB team doesnt support this installation guide and this thread is dealing with ALXEB and its issues not any other submods or subinstalation guides, for this you open new thread and discuss there. :juggle2:

Dunadd

09-07-2009, 06:30

fair enough - i just made it because it works fine and while i'm very grateful for your work in making it your installation instructions aren't clear at all

Maksimus

09-07-2009, 10:29

Oh dont get me wrong i dont mind the post itself, i just know there will come more questions and answers after and then.. would you be around to answer all of that ? :wall:

If so be my guest I will even make this post on main thread but I cant support solutions and bug fixes for instalation guide i didnt make :no:

Also, during these 2 years since Alx.exe pionering by my data (since file front removed the files many times) there have been over 10 thousands of downloads for the mod itself (there are many international forums that like EB from all over the world that use Alx.exe or Eaem) and only on these forums there have been soo many replies and questions, very very few have installation probs maybe coz most installed other mods before i am not sure :inquisitive:

Dunadd

09-08-2009, 00:11

Sorry - Your installation instructions are clearer than i thought (or you've made them clearer - don't know which) - pretty obvious the first download link is for the files for just using the ALX engine with EB. The ones Varcan put the link to seem to be the same except it has a file called .DS_Store
I've no idea what this is. Anyone know?

Maksimus

09-08-2009, 11:05

I made the Alx.exe installation on 11-08-2007, 02:08

If Varcan has done it before gratz, But it wasnt on the Internet

Dunadd

09-08-2009, 22:00

I've changed it to your download link in the post you made in 2007 now Maksimus - thanks. That post if very clear. It would be good to put a link to it in the opening post of the main EB for Alexander thread, because i dont think there is one at the moment - it just refers to needing files without any clearly labelled link to them.

I think Varcan maybe had just uploaded your files to another location from his pc because he couldnt find your thread or because it was quicker - not sure.

Maksimus

09-08-2009, 22:42

oh, just saw it, those files are mine :juggle2:

well I hope it will help some ppl that have more problems in installation :beam:

vartan

09-12-2009, 04:46

I don't remember completely but as far as I can recall, somebody was having issues with the engine mod to allow EB to work with Alexander engine and for some reason the download links on the front page weren't working. This is why I temporarily uploaded my backup version so the person could use the mod. (The ds/store file is nothing but a thumbnail arrangement file if I'm not mistaken, because I had uploaded from my macintosh computer.)

Maksimus

09-13-2009, 05:59

forum was down again :(

Kasperl

09-14-2009, 04:45

Sorry but I'm quite at a loss.
I just want to play vanilla EB using alex.exe, no other submod necessary.
So after installing R:TW 1.5, EB 1.1 and 1.2 and fixes, I only need to copy 2 files i.e. alex.exe and chat_filter.san to corresponding directory, and then create a proper shotcut, no Alexander full installation needed, is it so?

However in Maksimus's original post, he said you need to edit a ton of *.txt files such as export_descr_character_traits.txt etc. manually, that's scaring...

I believe or rather hope I don't need to do this, right?

Raygereio

09-14-2009, 05:10

I believe or rather hope I don't need to do this, right?
The only problem you'll have is that all of your generals will not die of natural causes, which can be annoying.

Maksimus' instructions on the first page are pretty clear and it's just a copy-paste job.
If you feel brave enough to try it, just remember two things. Do not edit the files with notepad, it messes them up. I'd adive using CrimsonEditor or Notepad++.
Secondly, make back ups!

Kasperl

09-14-2009, 05:16

Then I see.
I will give it a try.
Thank you.

The only problem you'll have is that all of your generals will not die of natural causes, which can be annoying.

Maksimus' instructions on the first page are pretty clear and it's just a copy-paste job.
If you feel brave enough to try it, just remember two things. Do not edit the files with notepad, it messes them up. I'd adive using CrimsonEditor or Notepad++.
Secondly, make back ups!

Maksimus

09-14-2009, 21:51

Kevin

09-20-2009, 03:25

Does anyone get a glitch where after the general gives his pre-battle speech and you don't click "start deployment" for a while, the screen drags back and turns toward the sun and freezes up? I've been getting it a lot but I use the EB 1.2 Mod pack:wall:

Tetoaku

09-22-2009, 22:19

Maksimus, you've got a PM with the saves.

daviduk109

10-08-2009, 20:25

Does this mod work with RTW gold (RTW + BI but not including Alex)? gold automatically installs BI in addition to RTW. I don't have Alex (on it's own) yet but may get it to try this mod out.

Ludens

10-09-2009, 17:15

Does this mod work with RTW gold (RTW + BI but not including Alex)? gold automatically installs BI in addition to RTW. I don't have Alex (on it's own) yet but may get it to try this mod out.

No, it doesn't work without Alex. This mod is the adaptation of EB for Alex.

daviduk109

10-09-2009, 19:46

I appreciate the Alex mod will not work without the Alex game expansion! What I need to know is, if I installed first a clean installation of RTW Gold (i.e. RTW basic game + BI expansion) and then installed the Alex expansion on top of that, will this mod work?

Or does the Alex mod require a clean installation of just the basic RTW game (patched to 1.5) followed by the Alex mod (WITHOUT the BI expansion)? What I am trying to find out is, will the act of installing BI (because BI is part of RTW Gold) interfere with the installation of the Alex mod?

I have RTW gold and RTW gold will install the basic RTW game AND the BI expansion (there is no way to just install RTW basic game on it's own). The Alex expansion would then need to be installed on top of RTW + BI.

Thanks

Ludens

10-09-2009, 20:06

Ah: yes, the presence or absence of BI should not make any difference. rtw.exe, bi.exe and alex.exe are all separate files.

Maksimus

10-13-2009, 03:35

you need basicly alx.exe, if you can just extract its also good:juggle2:

Reenk Roink

10-13-2009, 06:17

Hi Maksimus

I have the Steam version of RTW: Alex and am wondering how I can get it to work. I already got EB 1.2 with the fixes working fine on it.

I did some searches and it seems that while some people had questions about the Steam version, they were never really answered.

Thanks a lot in advance. :bow: :2thumbsup:

edit: Found a way around it in my case (if you have a cd version of RTW as well).

If you do have a cd version of RTW than what you need to do is install it, patch it, install EB on top of it and update it. Then go to your steamapps folder and to the Rome Total War Alexander folder and pull out the Alex.exe and put it in your EB RTW directory. Then just follow the instructions as usual.

Maksimus

10-13-2009, 15:45

yes you just need alx.exe in your rtw dir:yes:

applebreath

10-13-2009, 16:58

I'm going to try out EB. I usually go by the whole "newest is better" so I will go with EB on alex.

A few questions:

1)The first page of this topic gives the directions on how to get EB to work with Alex. One of the last intructions is to change the target line. Near there is a link for the EB.exe download and a button to click that says "More..". When I click that button I then see to more steps that has us actually editing/changing files. I'm confused as to what this is actually for, do we actually have to do that? Step 6/last-step in the install instructions just says we need to change the target line, so what are these extra 2 steps?

2)I have RTW gold, but I don't think that will be a problem. I just follow the install directions from the 1st page but with my gold disc, correct? (Meaning BI will automatically be installed too and this shouldn't create any problems with EB on Alex?)

3)I was still trying to figure out which is better, EB on BI or alex. My main question is: does running EB on alex use any of the BI features (swimming, shieldwall, schiltrom, loyalty, religion, night battles etc)?

4)Does the minmods still work with this mod, specifically the water mod that makes the water look like the vanilla version and the force diplomacy mod?

Thanks,
Apple

lionhard

10-13-2009, 20:43

Why cant some 1 just post a topic on how to install alex with EB with a full easy to follow instructions because i had trouble instaling it 8 months ago and ppl still r, all i ever see when i look on this topic is ppl struggling. :s

Maksimus

10-13-2009, 21:21

hi,

@applebreath

1- more button refer to ''EB-ALEX STEP-BY-STEP START!'' its in the main post, but the target line set you need to change anyway. If you download files you are ok just change target line.

2- as long as you have alexander installed and ALX.exe IN your RTW folder you are okej.

3- Difference with Alx and BI is vast AI wise in favour to Alx.exe, Alexander does not support: swimming, shieldwall, schiltrom, loyalty, religion - it doeas support night battles, AI naval invasions (wich on BI simply not work well etc) - see the main post for screen shots pls.

@lionhard

its all simple, download files and change target line, step by step is for modders :juggle2:

applebreath

10-13-2009, 22:12

Btw, thx for making such a nice "mini"-mod.

A few more questions, then I should be good, unless of course I run into some problems installing it.

1) So just to be clear, I don't need to worry about the step-by-step section, correct? Other than to change the target line?

2) Some how I got 3 files. The EAEM (190 MB-which looks like the installer), an Eaem.exe.7z (3758 KB), and a (EAEM fixes 04172009.7z - 1446 KB) file.

Do I just install/unpack/extract into my RTW/EB folder or just the RTW folder? I assume I do the EAEM huge file first, then unpack the fixes file? So I don't need to worry about the other file? I'm confused :(, or maybe just tired. Your step #5 confuses me some as to what to do with these files(unpack/install/extract) and where that action should be taken(destination folder).

3) I saw some mini mod pack that says it uses your mod at the following link, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=105242.

It is just a 10.1 MB download, so does it or doesn't it actually use your EAEM mod? If I use that mini-mod, will I need to download your mod? I just install that into my RTW folder and it includes your mod?

Jerat

10-14-2009, 00:19

Hello there,

I have installed the EAEM files with the fixes. I can start the game without problems, but if I want to start a new campaign or load one of my old savegames, the game crushes to desktop. Does anyone know what could cause this problem?

Edit: Ok, new installation of EB and EAEM solved the Problem :). Maybe there had been some issues with another minimod or something like that.

Maksimus

10-14-2009, 14:06

@applebreath

1) You don't need to worry about the step-by-step section. Just change the target line and download EAEM if you want to play the mod.

2) The EAEM (190 MB-which looks like the installer), an Eaem.exe.7z (3758 KB), and a (EAEM fixes 04172009.7z - 1446 KB) file are part of the mod. Fixes are to be used after EAEM is installed and Eaem.exe is to be used if you can not change the target line correctly. But it works only if your RTW is installed in default folders.

Install EAME in your RTW folder then after paste the fixes there also.

3) Mini mod pack is using the mod but is a separate tweak from EAEM, they wont work together, EAEM has all features needed.

applebreath

10-14-2009, 15:16

Tomorrow I'll try to install all this and hopefully it works well. I will just stay with your mod then, not the mini-mod, as you say they wont work together. Your mod does sound, for the most part, like all I'll need.

Last questions, I hope, :P.

1)Do I just unzip the fixes file to the RTW folder or EB/data folder? Or do I unzip first then paste? To which folder?

2)I really don't like the sea in EB. For some reason it just makes the whole map hard on my eyes and imo makes the graphics of RTW look bad. It is almost like too much to see, if you know what I mean. It actually stops me from playing the game. Will the mod to make ocean the same as in vanilla work with yours? If you think it will work, any special instructions that I should follow?

3)Will the force diplomacy mod work with yours? If so, any special instructions that I should follow?

4)This one is much less important, but do you think the darth mod will work with yours?

5)If you think they will work, should I install them after your mod install or before?

Thanks again,
Apple.

VladiNemir

10-14-2009, 15:25

Hi!
I've just started playing alex.,sorry didn't have the time to check through all these 50+ pages to find an answer to my question,which is:When do the pahlava,hayasdan...etc.. get their late bodyguard tanks?Is it the march of time ,does this game have it...or do they get them at all?

again sorry but i'm really short with time to do it myself!

Inače super gejm maximuse,pozz u BG;)

Maksimus

10-14-2009, 21:35

@VladiNemir
I believe their late bodyguard tanks are enabled after reforms, not sure when but for sure In Eaem there are many from the start to keep game realistic.

@applebreath

1)RTW folder.
2)I believe its on the forums here somewhere or check TWCenter, google a bit.
3)No, it will not work and it will never be implemented due to player abuse. :juggle2:
4)Eaem usses Dart formations but the mod he made itself will not work.

applebreath

10-15-2009, 12:12

1)I extracted the fixes into the RTW folder, which you said to do above. It didn't ask me to replace anything so I am assuming that that was the wrong thing to do.

I deleted the fixes folder that the extraction created in the RTW folder and I'm going to reextract into another folder and then copy-paste the files in the fixes folder to the folder that it is represented by in the actual RTW folder. Is this the correct thing to do?

2)Step 5 talks about EAEM, should it be EAEB? If not, what does EAEM stand for?

3)The steps to change the target line of the "shortcut" refer to what "shortcut"? I got no shortcut on install. In program menu I have a few options/icons to start it. By running trivial scrip, by running single player -through trivial script or by an icon that says Run Europa Barbarorum. Are you saying change the Run Europa Barbarorum icon target line? Also when that is changed, can we still run EB through trivial script? Or do we have to change another target line to use it through trivial script?

Thanks,
Apple.

Maksimus

10-15-2009, 12:58

can please read first thread few more times :book:

applebreath

10-15-2009, 13:18

I read it many times. I'm going to have to go with lionhard on this subject. Although it gives you the major details, it is not specific enough. Escpecially for people that are new to this stuff.

It tells you the right order and files, but doesn't give you the specifics for anything.

I suggest for steps 1-4 you give the link to the following, https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80270, with also saying to install Alexander before 1.1 or something like that.

For steps 5-6, you should mention more about what you do after dl. I installed step 5 in RTW folder, which i hope is correct. Step 5a, I extracted in a folder then manually copy-pasted items to the correct RTW folder. Which I can only hope is the "correct" way to do it. Step 6 is confusing, especially since it is mixed with "Step by Step" stuff. It also doesn't talk about what actual shortcut.

Can you please answer my #1 question from the last post, at the least. That is my biggest worry from all of this, that I'm not suppost to copy-paste.

4) I know you said this EAEB is all I need. But do you have a list of all the extras in it? For example, you said that it uses darth formations, but I didn't see that mentioned on the first page.

5) Is there anyway to know forsure that it is working correctly. That EAEB is installed, along with the fixes? For example, should CTDs be very rare, some sort of icon I should look for that should show me it is working, a version number, a certain display at start, etc?

Lastly, I just want to make clear that the above is just to try to understand EAEB better and to make sure it works properly. I'm a detail oriented person, as are many that play this game.

Thanks a lot for your hard work. I can't wait to try it.

applebreath

10-15-2009, 13:40

Without more anwers to questions, I can only assume I did it right.

Something that I noticed right away was that the old style sea is in place, rather than the EB sea graphics. I much prefer it this way, but I'm not for sure if you intended this or not because the pics at the first page for sea battles show the EB sea graphics. Which should it look like/did you intend to use?

The mod_1.pak file in the fixes file that I unzipped to copy-paste (for fixes) is the probable cause of the sea looking the way it does. If I delete that file in EB/data, will the sea then look like the EB sea graphic style sea?

Maksimus

10-15-2009, 21:00

@apple here is what is on mаin post

In details:

1. Install Rome Total War + 1,3 and 1,5 patches.
2. Install Alexander expansion or extract the Alx.exe file only into your RTW folder.
3. Install EB 11 and EB 12.
4. EB fixes.

a) To play EB with only improved engine you need use
5. ALX engine files.

b) If you want to play full modification you need to use
5. EAEM files.
5a. EAEM fixes.

6. Change the target line of EB.exe single player.

That is all you need to know to install the mod or use Alx.exe :idea2:

Additionally I have even uploaded and explained how to set up target line of *exe file

"<drive letter>:\<directory path you've installed RTW into>\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander
"...\Rome - Total War\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

This is modification not a product that someone is making coins on, I can only help people so much so they can start the mod and enjoy. Oh, about sea yes if its old ones that the way I liked it more.

Non of the modifications are listed so you will see many new things :beam:

applebreath

10-15-2009, 21:38

Maksimus, some of us are slower than others :(. Btw, my main question was a simple yes/no question. But I wont complain/argue with you, it is a great mod after all :).

So for any others that might want to help me:

I'd just hate to be playing for days and then get a CTD because I messed up with copy-pasting the fixes.

I'm slightly unsure about step 5a. Did I do right by unzipping the fixes file in a temp folder, then copy-pasting each file to the corresponding folder in my RTW\EB\data folder?

Thanks,
Apple.

Maksimus

10-16-2009, 04:50

oh sry if my post seem rude, coz its not ment to be.. anyway 5a. EAEM fixes. go to RTW folder

applebreath

10-16-2009, 21:12

I've been playing it a little and it seems very nice. But the campaign map is laggy/choppy. It works smooth in the campaign for awhile, then goes choppy again for awhile, then goes smooth again.

Xp, 2 gigs, 7950 gx2, fx-55.

I don't think its a hardware issue, considering it works smooth for awhile before its choppy, then goes smooth again. Probably software. Its playable, unless it gets worse as my empire gets bigger, but it is annoying as it takes longer to move/select things. Any known issues with this? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Apple.

smartspick

10-17-2009, 19:32

I apologize ahead of time if this has already been asked; I've installed everything in for alexander eB. It starts up fine, however, upon me trying to begin (that is click on the EB campaign button in single player) a in-game window pops up saying to select an option on the screen, as if It is not recognizing that command. can anyone help me? have I installed it incorrectly? I had installed this on my previous computer just fine, its an amazing mod.

applebreath

10-17-2009, 22:03

I'm no expert, as my above posts show. But if I had the problem you did, I'd probably start over with everything. Uninstall everything, then reinstall going by how I did it a few posts above.

gl

It is a great mod.

Ibrahim

10-18-2009, 01:09

allright, in a nutshell, what does EAEM do unit wise?

I intalled the file in a special folder to view contents, and found chinese and Indian units in there. does that mean that a new faction(s) will replace some of the old ones?

applebreath

10-19-2009, 18:29

Update on my above problem:

It seems to happen when I move a unit past its full movement point radius (so you see red/blue/yellow movement lines). I have no idea why this happens or how to fix it from happening in the first place. But if I move a unit outside of a city, the problem is gone.

If anyone out there knows why this happens or how to do a more permanent fix, please enlighten me.

-Apple.

Maksimus

10-20-2009, 04:37

Ibrahim you can open EAEM files and see UIs :book:

Heptagenia

10-20-2009, 17:12

Hi are this alx mod "Extensive Alexander EB Modification 2009 Final edition" better or funnier then "Europa Barbarorum 1.2 submod pack 3.5" and thats about the difference. Thanks

Maksimus

10-20-2009, 17:23

try it out

its a mod with much more content <3

applebreath

10-20-2009, 20:29

I'm noticing that the AI doesn't expand. Most cities just have stacks that don't even move from one turn to the other. So is the AI script not working right? Perhaps they move once in awhile but can't expand because each rebel settlement is loaded with stacks of elite troops that keep retraining when depleted. I'm over 20 years into the game and there has been zero expantion by the campaign AI. Is this normal? I looked at the past few pages in this thread and it seems others have mentioned a similar problem.

Maksimus is there a problem with this mod or is it a feature of the game? I remember back in the day when the makers of RTW said that the save-reload-siege-bug was a "feature", :). Maybe it is a feature, I'm just at a loss as to why. Will the AI eventually expand? What should it look like after about 50 years? Why hasn't carthage even attacked me with all their stacks? I'm playing as Rome on VH/M.

Can "rebel" factions retrain units too? If they can, stopping them from being able to would help the other AI factions expand. Is there anyway to mod it so that the rebels can't retrain? As it is, I don't see how another AI faction could even conquer a city that has 2 stacks of elite "rebel" troops that retrain right after a battle. This must be why there is no expantion.

Here are a few quotes that I've found about this subject:

Hi,

AI expansion depends on the overall balance of the game and start map power share, in all my tests even little wrong tweak on the start map can disbalance the progress etc..

@ Maksimus: What is this refering to, "start map power share"? What do you mean by tweak? Can you give an example or two? I need more info on this because the last thing I want to do is hamper the AI expansion anymore than it already is.

I'm very much liking this mod so far - apart from the better battle AI and diplomatic model (from what I can see), I'm already at about 250BC and most factions have only taken one or two additional provinces at most, unlike the normal situation at 250BC in regular EB where either AS or the Ptolemy has blitzed most of Asia.

@ plastictree: It does seem to be a great mod. Its like a huge mod-pack for alex with a lot of nice tweaks/features. But I'm also at a loss as to why the AI doesn't expand. I'm not for sure how I feel about the AI not expanding, because I do like a slow game. But only fighting rebels and tiny factions probably will cause me not to play this mod again. I just don't know yet. Maybe I'll go extremely slow and enjoy the civ-like building. But in another 20-40 years, if there still isn't some AI expantion, I'm moving on to another mod.

It was a challenging game especially in the beginning but there were a few annoyances. I never got attacked much and that for each city there is one full stack outside the wall that never moves (even after the city is taken by holding the town center for example). Oh and the rebels never attacked any city in my game.

@ wisechile: I'm noticing the same thing in my game.

im having the same problem. being that the factions dont actually expand due to the pure ownage that the rebels are. could you tell me how to mod the game so that the rebels are weaker? my most difficult battles were against the rebels as well and i usually fight them around 2 times before i actually beat them. its not really that fun fighting rebels over and over. i actually started to miss fighting other factions.

@ fleaza: I agree.

Jerat

10-20-2009, 23:30

I think, the AI could not conquer a rebel settlement because of the big stacks in there.
I noticed several attacks (I used toggle_fow to look at the AI), but very few succeded.
In my sweboz game, I conquerd northeastern euope in 40 years(!) without getting in contact with any other faction. That was quite boring^^. So I decided to play EB without this modification, also because the Building times were much too hardcore for me (16 rounds for the first tier of barracks, 36 rounds for the tier 1 government building). I mean, if the AI can not expand, the game is ridiculous easy^^

@Chinese Units:
There are three or four stacks of new chinese units (rebelfaction) around the area of sulek at the eastern end of the map.

Luskani

10-21-2009, 06:55

I have a short term solution for the static AI, however this will require you to start a new campaign again. :sweatdrop: :embarassed:

How to allow the AI factions to expand naturally within the first 10 years.
1. Make a back-up for descr_stat found in ......RTW/EB/data/world/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.
2. Edit descr_strat with notepad ++ (This is recommended because plain notepad is very risky)
-increase heavily the starting stacks of the AI factions that you will not play and increase their money up to 1 million or less (except Arche Seleukia, since they invade like crazy later on ).
(don't worry since 1 million depletes very fast for the AI factions.)
- In my opinion, the very large navy of some factions prevents them from developing armies and cities, you need to delete them until they only 1 to 3 ships left. (AI doesn't know how to disband them anyway :whip:)
- increase the starting experience of the AI factions armies from 0 to 9 (People will disagree with me, but the rebels they encounter are really strong. And if they are beaten by the rebels, they will be discouraged and stopped expanding. :furious3:)
- Reduce and weaken most of the starting armies of only the "nearest" rebel town/cities that they will conquer. So that they will continue to expand. (not all)
- Increase also rebel spawn rate and brigand spawn rate to 100 to prevent them from popping all the time.

Optional: Want a very fast expansion for the first few turns?
3. Make a back-up of descr_character in ...........EB/data/descr_character
4. Edit descr_character and change the movement points from 80 to 100 or more, this will allow the AI to invade a few territories in the first 3 turns.

What I noticed:
- Many factions have conquered at least 1 to 2 settlements for the first 3 turns. :yes:
- Many factions have already a descent nation after 263 B.C
+Saba conquered 5 settlements
+Casse conquered 4 settlements
+Germany conquered 4 settlements (and so on..................)
- Rome frequently use it's ships in transporting its armies.
note: AI will return to slow expansion again after a decade or more

Hope my advice helps. :yes:

applebreath

10-21-2009, 12:53

Thanks for the advice.

But I'm just going to uninstall this mod and try something else out.

-Apple

Maksimus

10-21-2009, 17:05

applebreath

10-21-2009, 18:07

Eb is designed to last from 272bc to 14ad, that is 286 years which is 1144 turns, and its advised to play on very hard Campaign. 40-60 years is not a full campaign :juggle2:

Ty for playing trying the mod :yes:

Once again, thanks for answering my questions.

I did toggle_fow for 50 years, 200 turns. Then did toggle_fow again, the map looked the same as it did 50 years before. "Maybe" one or two cities (at the most) changed hands. There was pretty much zero AI movement and expantion.

I don't see how that would change much in another 800 turns, except waste my time. Really, I don't know how you can say that the AI will expand when each rebel city has two full stacks of elite troops that retrain after attacked.

Sure, I'll expand. But how is that fun to only fight against the rebels?

-Apple.

Maksimus

10-22-2009, 02:45

you should scroll this thread back a bit there are few screens

Also what was the difficulty you were playing on?

This mod is for VH Campaign :book:

applebreath

10-22-2009, 11:35

you should scroll this thread back a bit there are few screens

Also what was the difficulty you were playing on?

This mod is for VH Campaign :book:

If you would actually bother to read what anyone wrote to you, you would see that I not only did it on VH, I gave you a few examples of what other players of this mod have seen in their VH campaigns.

Maksimus

10-23-2009, 04:31

applebreath

10-23-2009, 11:42

Apple I understand your concerns. However, highjacking this thread with complaints wont help.

Here is one example when someone complained and after passed his save game where its creal AI expands.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=94861&page=45

Please be kind, no one has to play the mod if he doesnt like it

Maks

I think part of the problem is that I'm almost certain English isn't your first language. Really, all I meant to do was inform you about a major flaw in your game (imo). Granted there is much to like about your mod, but most of that you can also get with other mods.

I actually kind of thought you were the one highjacking many other threads "advertising" this mod. I just wanted to point out what many players of this mod have told you. The AI doesn't expand well, period. All you end up doing is fighting rebel elite stacks, that just sit on the campaign map. When you actually make it to another factions land, all their stacks also pretty much just sit around their cities.

It's just that I noticed that the AI doesn't use all those extra troops that you gave it. More doesn't always mean "better". In fact, sometimes it is "worse".

Remember, this was all just constructive critism about this mod. I'll leave it at that and move one.

-Apple

-edit- As for your example. Once again, if you read an earlier post of mine you will see I tested that too and my map looked about the same as his map, 50 years later (200 turns). Given the reasons that I also stated above, I still don't think much more will happen in another 800 turns.

Ludens

10-23-2009, 17:42

Passive A.I. is problem for some people with vanilla EB as well. It seems to be rare, but I've recall a couple of complaints about it. Apart from those cases where the player had not activated the script, there was no explanation.

Anyway, I agree we should end this discussion here.

Maksimus

10-24-2009, 00:02

For sure,

Passive A.I. come's when players play passive also, in Alx.exe its triggered by player passive game or no expansion sometime, we even had players that refused to expand until they saw AI expand :book:

Also, when note is made at some point that AI is passive, you dont need to reply over again in many more replies noting the same thing. This mod had tens of thousands of downloads in its history and only few had remarks :juggle2:

ty for playing EAEM :yes:

Atraphoenix

10-24-2009, 20:21

applebreath

10-25-2009, 20:21

My campaign works well. But as you know to make AI aggressive we have added many scripts and submods. But waiting for AI modding on the eve of EB2 is my best choice at the moment.

https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4360/rometwalx20091024195400.jpg

but at the moment best solutions looks like "Victory Conditions Mod" and my humble "Realist Movement Mod."
I am quite happy with both.

I followed your directions for 1.2 Mini Mod Pack 3.1 and my map also looks similar to yours. The AI is expanding nicely.

for installation process; I followed EB 1.1 > 1.2 > official fixes > minimod pack > LZ3's script adaptation > phalanx mod > RS textures mod > naval strat mod > Lysander's sihunet formations adaptations > EOM 2.1b V.T. Marvin's Adaptation

-Apple

Atraphoenix

10-26-2009, 15:09

some says the movement points irritates some because AI is vanquishing rebel cities and penetrates deep into the player territory which I like very much :laugh4:
if you find AI too expansionist just reduce the movement point in descr_char.txt in the data and SP backup folders of EB my default is 260,
EB default is 80. One day I try 500 - 600 just for fun :laugh4:

Maksimus

10-27-2009, 06:12

That AI expansion as soon as 263bc will never happen in eaem :2thumbsup:

mod is designed to be more realistic :juggle2:

applebreath

10-27-2009, 14:47

That AI expansion as soon as 263bc will never happen in eaem :2thumbsup:

mod is designed to be more realistic :juggle2:

Is less about expansion and more that I'd argue that your campaign AI is broken. If you actually sit and play a campaign for awhile, it becomes obvious. I'm sure many would agree with me on this. And by reading many many post about this issue in this thread, it seems the problem has been around for awhile.

The mod has some nice "eye" candy and it will take awhile to notice the problem, but in the end, the truth is you stunted your campaign AI too much. All the rebel cities are just too strong.

Also, I don't see how this mod can have much to do with "realism" when all the cities on the map are loaded with 2 stacks of elite troops.

Ludens

10-27-2009, 20:13

applebreath, you've made your disappointment with this mod perfectly clear. Please leave it be. If you wish to discuss Alex-related mods, I suggest you do it in another thread.

applebreath

10-27-2009, 21:05

applebreath, you've made your disappointment with this mod perfectly clear. Please leave it be. If you wish to discuss Alex-related mods, I suggest you do it in another thread.

Fair enough. I will let it rest.

I was mainly just trying to keep up with the OP's spamming. There is a reason this thread is so huge.

Maksimus

11-01-2009, 13:47

are the links still working?:book:

Olaf The Great

11-06-2009, 16:54

When you say change the target line, what do you change it to? I Just see stuff about EB trivial script.

applebreath

11-06-2009, 17:08

When you say change the target line, what do you change it to? I Just see stuff about EB trivial script.

Yeah, this part can be confusing.

The key is to not use trivial script to open it. Look for the actual alex.exe (RomeTW-ALX) and make a shortcut for it. Put that shortcut on your desktop. Then in the properties of that shortcut, make sure the end of the "target" line, looks like the following (the bold part is what you will need to cut and past to the end of the target line):

"this is the path to where you installed RTW and Alexander and EB and all patches\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

You will also find that alex.exe (RomeTW-ALX) file in the above "path".

-Apple

Olaf The Great

11-06-2009, 17:19

Yeah, this part can be confusing.

The key is to not use trivial script to open it. Look for the actual alex.exe (RomeTW-ALX) and make a shortcut for it. Put that shortcut on your desktop. Then in the properties of that shortcut, make sure the end of the "target" line, looks like the following (the bold part is what you will need to cut and past to the end of the target line):

this is the path to where you installed RTW and Alexander and EB and all patches\RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

You will also find that alex.exe (RomeTW-ALX) file in the above "path".

-Apple

Thanks hope ths works

(Also got some funny results when I tried to play an old savegame without changing the path, my faction leader got every single trait in the game, lol)

Rahwana

11-07-2009, 10:31

Maksimus. I just want to ask a minor nitpick about Night battle, the starting Character on my campaign that has night battle traits does capable of night battles, but after the first generation dies out, there was no more characters capable to do the night battles. What should I do, other than manually give that trait via console?

Maksimus

11-08-2009, 20:49

Did you play eb vanilla or EAEM mod?

Rahwana

11-09-2009, 06:06

EB Vanilla, with some minor nitpick (modified some values and unit stats) then port to your Alexander EB installation.

Maksimus

11-10-2009, 07:43

in vanilla eb I didnt edit multiple traits so that night battle capability would be accessible fairly easy.
In Eaem they should be easier to get :yes:

Finn MacCumhail

11-14-2009, 23:04

Hello!
I have a question about installation. As I understood, I can just copy Alex.exe without installing Alex TW whole. Is it true? And if I install EAEM do I need to install whole Alex TW?
And when I install patches should I install 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.5 or just 1.3 1.5? And is it important to install all that patches? (I realized that I Played EB without patches 1.3 and 1.5 before)

Thanks

Maksimus

11-15-2009, 02:51

you just need 1.3 and 1.5 =)

Finn MacCumhail

11-15-2009, 12:09

Well, I faced one problem with the patches.I have read on the official TW site that 1.3 is regionally depend. But I live in Russia and I run official Russian license localization. And it refuse installing 1.3. :wall: If I install BI my RTW will be 1.3, but I can’t install 1.6 on same unknown reasons, that is why Vanilla would be 1.3 only. What should I do?

Maksimus

11-15-2009, 22:24

you need 1.3 to install 1.5 and only then you can install alexander and for that matter play the mod.
Try to instal 1.3 then 1.5 and then alexander

Finn MacCumhail

11-16-2009, 10:05

These message I recive every time I want to install 1.3. I dl it from TW site English language version.

https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/Jegwettnorskbaralit/ACDSeeImage.jpg

And here I install BI and it updated my RTW to 1.3 but now I can't install 1.6

https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz332/Jegwettnorskbaralit/ACDSeeImage2.jpg

Maksimus

11-17-2009, 02:13

your *exe file is not working..

Ludens

11-17-2009, 21:14

Are using a Russian or an English patch? Try the one your are not using. Or find an international version. It seems unlikely, but it's worth a shot.

Edit: have you de-installed R:TW at this computer before? IIRC there was a problem with the 1.5 registry entry not being deleted properly so you couldn't patch it after reinstalling. If this is the case, you could try de-installing and deleting the registry entry with a freeware Reg-edit program (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=59901).

Finn MacCumhail

11-18-2009, 18:45

In fact there is no Russian patch or exe at all. The company that has license to produce R: TW in Russia uses English version. They just translated it. I dunno if such word exists in English, but in Russia we call it localization. I read that I need English patch. My exe is English-English not English-US.

I can update Vanilla to 1.3 only with BI (localization too). But then I cant update to 1.6. When I deleted BI I "managed" to install 1.5, but during installation it said that old descr_items not found. Installation terminated. Now I have 1.5 written on exe but Alex still refused to install, coz it said I need 1.5 or 1.6 :wall:

Yep, I de-install it before on these computer. I will try freeware Reg-edit program, hope it will help. Thanks for advice.