Was gonna ask what Choxo did in order to remove himself from exactly rand category but they just claimed tracker.
12-08-2019, 06:45
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Oh they claim track on Egix. I don't think wolf Egix would've thought himself to be a good kill carrier given his position at the end. I think mechanically we aren't supposed to lynch him now =/ But I think he is a good info lynch and I don't recall him ever commenting on my pzelda push yesterday.
Mainly I want them lynched so GH can clear himself by flipping a wolf. I liked him a lot today actually, buy if Egix flips villa I will be suspicious.
12-08-2019, 07:03
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I'm town. I don't have any powers (apart from my voice and vote ofc)
12-08-2019, 07:13
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
I feel validated and embarassed at the same time.
1 wolf hard pushed. 1 wolf hard defended. Balanced as all things should be.
12-08-2019, 07:19
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
This is a really rough post.
I wouldn't have made such a careless post about someone if I actually knew they were scum.
12-08-2019, 07:22
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Should take a look at Empoof's reads at some point.
12-08-2019, 07:22
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
heyo scoobs, how is kife going?
I realized it was you yday at eod with avatar change et all but I was too tired to process it
12-08-2019, 07:24
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
heyo scoobs, how is kife going?
I realized it was you yday at eod with avatar change et all but I was too tired to process it
life*
also egix, what are your reads rn? Part of me thinks you would not push me d1 as scum but your posts arent good
12-08-2019, 07:24
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
Should take a look at Empoof's reads at some point.
But my initial guess is lolspk.
12-08-2019, 07:30
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
insaner, how did you know pzelda=capage?
12-08-2019, 07:31
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
insaner, how did you know pzelda=capage?
Tmi
12-08-2019, 07:36
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I'm sorry. I should stop trolling you now. I feel bad about treating you the way I did yesterday.
Visor said who they were in the recruitment thread on mu. The reason I decided to join this game was the absolutely hype playerlist, and Capage was one of many players I was eager to play with. I feel a little bad for murdering him with my meta case when he wanted to play anonimously. I would not have gone for him as hard as I did yesterday without prior experience with him.
12-08-2019, 07:45
Cuthillius
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
hi i'm cuth and i'm inordinately upset at the extent to which people are still putting me in the poe
but it's tired and i'm late so maybe words tomorrow
gj all us though
12-08-2019, 07:45
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
life*
also egix, what are your reads rn? Part of me thinks you would not push me d1 as scum but your posts arent good
Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.
12-08-2019, 07:51
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.
can you go more in depth on fable/logic?
and who do you think are the wolves? if you are a villager you have the best pov of us all
12-08-2019, 08:03
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
I wouldn't have made such a careless post about someone if I actually knew they were scum.
Was that the only purpose behind this post? :P
Like, I don't recall you memeing much about anyone else in the game.
12-08-2019, 08:29
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
Was that the only purpose behind this post? :P
Like, I don't recall you memeing much about anyone else in the game.
I mean it wasn't even a funny meme. It was just awkward.
12-08-2019, 08:42
Newyn
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
heyo scoobs, how is kife going?
I realized it was you yday at eod with avatar change et all but I was too tired to process it
Hi, I've been taking a break from forum mafia but this player list looked too good to pass up.
Cho gets a pass today at least with his claim but still don't like Egix. Going nowhere just means he's probably not mafia PR, doubt he'd carry kp after yesterday.
Claiming vt after Cho claimed to have tracked him as his opening post feels off to me and "I wouldn't do x if I knew they were scum" is pretty much just wifom.
12-08-2019, 08:47
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Well since it looks like Egix has given up I suppose there's no use holding this back now. What I was gonna say is I think that Cuth is the last wolf based on the following quotes:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
I like Newyn. I don't know if I'm comfortable calling him either alignment yet, though.
Pzelda's opening was rather bizarre and really really awkward if wolf, so villager points there. In particular the interaction with Zack.
I'm unsettled by wagon comp on Monty, think I'd rather hold off there for now, since I'm personally not confident on reading him generically speaking.
Was going to vote Logic, but now I sorta think him calling GH and Zack null, if lazy particularly in the first case, is mildly villagery.
Hum ho.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
would you say capage's the kind of person who makes equivalently off the wall reads as any alignment?
hm
lot more willing to excuse ladd based on those reasons, given the size of the game and how we've just started
but curious to see how that evolves over time
appreciate the answer, genuinely :)
12-08-2019, 08:57
Cuthillius
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
lol
you don't say
12-08-2019, 09:48
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
lol
you don't say
Told you I was gonna get ya after Capage flipped wolf.
12-08-2019, 10:31
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Everyone else looks like a villager to me. Maybe Monty? He is just plain weird. Choxorn is self resolving as wolves will want to get rid of him if he is a village tracker. Just give him until F3 to catch all wolves and snap him then if he fails to do so. I don't see who else it could be.
12-08-2019, 11:23
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I have today completely free but tomorrow I'll barely be able to post so the plan is to re read as much as I can today and PoE this game
doesn't seem too hard atm but I wouldn't wanna let something slip by us
forgive me for the likely number of consecutive posts I am about to make
12-08-2019, 11:31
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan. Other than that, It's been a nice game so far. I don't even feel like throwing my vote around and killing someone.
Actually, Empoof has been the loudest voice so far and I like him for that. I read some mashes on MU and he's usually loud trying to powertown or powerwolf. Finding the difference might be hard but this has felt like a honest effort so far.
Townreads so far:
Empoof
Merlin
Insaner
Egix
Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus. Barto's posts are trashier with more fluff, but I think that him going against the thread might be a good look.
Cuth made a long post I skipped, then returned to it and read the last sentence:
I'm not a big fan of the wording here. I agree with the read, tho.
The rest is of players consists the bottom pile. I guess monty and gh stand out but not in a good way. GH might be too much of a MU champs meta read, but Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.
Vote: Montomercy
just don't think it makes much sense for p to awkwardly defend barto (who was being pushed more) in this post and then decide to buss anyway by voting monty
12-08-2019, 11:32
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
also @El Barto have we played together before? did you have a different username?
There really isn't as much spew as I thought from El Barto/Capage, at least from their sides. Will try to read it from player's sides later on, but for now between the ISO function on here (no offense, I just got too used to all the tools on mu) and me being a bit burnout of ww in general, I don't really feel like doing too much back reading and would rather just real time it when people are around mash style.
Anyway here is the situation.
Zack is a villager, everyone agrees and he should never be lynched.
GH is a villager, he is just playing like his obvious villa self imo. Not much to do with his zelda push really (2 wolves were wagons for a good portion of the day so wolves bussing is perfectly plausible esp later on), I think it could totally come from wolf gh given the situation but like he is just villagery and that's worth more than anything else to me.
Insaner is a villager too. The way he pushed zelda, zelda reaction to it, overall villagery, etc...
Monty is a spewed villager, don't think him being a wolf makes any sense.
I am an obvious villager.
I don't really see Fable playing yesterday like he did as a wolf almost ever. First of all I don't think he votes me the way he did and then he just busses pzelda like that? Just a villa.
Logic is a villager cause GH says so (and also cause I think his push on me while bad, made logical sense)
These guys are all ~locks to be villas.
Then there is merlin who imo has been villagery but also very wrong. I'll re read his EoD later but I think his post about agreeing with the last person to post that GH disliked shows a mindset that is just hard to fake as a wolf. Also he as Empoof top villa read.
That leaves us with:
dya
Cuth
Chox
Newyin
Egix
Csargo
I think last 2 wolves are in here.
Chox claimed tracker and is self resolving as long as we lynch the other wolf before we get to f-whatever. Would leave alone for now, he is not endgaming with that claim.
I think dya will probably be able to clear herself just by being villagery given time, I didn't mind her d1 but not to clearing levels.
newyin is in a similar spot as dya, maybe liked his d1 slightly more.
Csargo is just rand unless someone has meta on them.
cuth could be a wolf? I haven't read the context of his barto vote, will do so in a bit but going by what I remember they did nothing particularly clearing and I just read their long wall for the first time rn and it just seems like a word salad. If you are a villager, can you quote me what you think is clearing for you since you feel that way?
Egix has the least going for them, I don't think this is a smoking gun as much as GH and am willing to entertain them being a villa, but they just have nothing going for them except the fact that maybe they would not have the balls to go after me as a wolf but that's worth little at this point. His monty push in particular was super lazy and @Egix can you explain more in detail why you thought I was a wolf so much that you voted me d1 and ended the day voting me?
12-08-2019, 12:23
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
vote: El Barto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
I do think Monty looks better, and I'm less comfortable with my company on that wagon
plus Barto is definitely pretty low-key
and I think it's a helpful lynch no matter what
can you elaborate on both of the bolded?
I know the first is kinda self explaining but I wanna know exactly how you felt about people on both wagons at that point and what made you switch like that
12-08-2019, 12:24
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
also for post game credit, I had empoof as a PR
that's the thign that kinda makes me fear this game maybe not be super easy as we are thinking since after that EoD I feel empoof would be the nk only if choxorn is a wolf or if wolves are paying attention and PR read him as well
12-08-2019, 12:39
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
i liked insaner staking a LITERALLY 100% read strength on someone, bc i dont think a bad ever does that, but him walking it back some mitigates it a little
Quote:
Originally Posted by merl1n
my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead
@merl1n can you go again over why exactly you thought insaner could be a wolf?
also why that stopped you from giving any kind of read on pzelda all game afaict
12-08-2019, 12:40
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
alrighty, merl1n d1 is really wolfsided and not as villagery as I remember
still feel his mindset on the "last one to talk seems right" is something hard to fake as a wolf
so would still lean on him being a villager
12-08-2019, 12:45
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Insaner spitroasted a wolf and thinks it's a role madness game. The wolves didn't know barto was going to die and should have been expecting to sacrifice him d2 if they let me live through the night.
Empoof defended zelda iirc and was not really gunning after anyone except choxorn that I remember. I don't know why they would kill him if chox is villa
Not sure why everyone thinks dya is so villagy. She is near the bottom of my POE.
I'm also chuckling at insaner's God read of capage now being correct 3 out of 4 games, which is literally just rand lol
12-08-2019, 12:46
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Maybe one of those people that was all "why do people think Merlin is so villagy?!?!?!" is w/w with Merlin
12-08-2019, 12:49
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan
Maybe one of those people that was all "why do people think Merlin is so villagy?!?!?!" is w/w with Merlin
lol an ever green
choxorn just claimed tracker fwiw. I agree with you that game would make more sense if Choxorn was a wolf but shrug, seems pointless to go there today
12-08-2019, 12:49
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Also let's take a moment to acknowledge that I had the sickest soul read of all time
12-08-2019, 12:51
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there
This is like the reasons Yates would give when he townread someone
I don't get it at all. Feels like an enormous reach
12-08-2019, 12:52
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
When I was reading eod, the way GH joined the zelda wagon made me think of how he joined me on Darren Sanders in the finale
GH is an extremely likely villager but I wanted to seed the thread with that knowledge anyway
12-08-2019, 12:53
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan
This is like the reasons Yates would give when he townread someone
I don't get it at all. Feels like an enormous reach
:thumbsup:
was weird for me as well, think I called it out yday
12-08-2019, 12:54
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
What wolf team would have ever had egix carry the kill there?
12-08-2019, 12:56
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
what do you think about scoobs? I kinda don't think that's the way he would buss but not suepr sure if I remember his meta correctly
also interested in your cuth read
12-08-2019, 12:57
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
what do you think about scoobs? I kinda don't think that's the way he would buss but not suepr sure if I remember his meta correctly
also interested in your cuth read
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On both
12-08-2019, 13:00
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
reading pzelda/barto posts I think the wolf team didn't wanna buss at least early on fwiw
12-08-2019, 13:06
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
any ORGer has tips to read csargo?
12-08-2019, 13:08
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
one of egix/merl1n is almost surely a wolf imo
just going by pzelda read list and by how I think he was trying to play
12-08-2019, 13:21
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
@Egix can you explain more in detail why you thought I was a wolf so much that you voted me d1 and ended the day voting me?
When I first voted you, it wasn't completely serious. I was aware that you could have just been memeing, but I didn't have any better idea of who to vote, and as you could probably tell from the 1610 reference there was always a chance that you were scum seeking refuge in audacity.
Then when I voted you again closer to EoD, it was because I ultimately decided that a wagon on you was more likely to go through than one on Monty (I understand that people may find this scummy, but putting my vote where I predict it will have more relevance at deadline is something I normally do in games where I can't make deadline [see: all of my MU games])
12-08-2019, 13:25
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
When I first voted you, it wasn't completely serious. I was aware that you could have just been memeing, but I didn't have any better idea of who to vote, and as you could probably tell from the 1610 reference there was always a chance that you were scum seeking refuge in audacity.
Then when I voted you again closer to EoD, it was because I ultimately decided that a wagon on you was more likely to go through than one on Monty (I understand that people may find this scummy, but putting my vote where I predict it will have more relevance at deadline is something I normally do in games where I can't make deadline [see: all of my MU games])
ok buy why did you think I was a wolf?
literally just because I was trolling a bit? that's it?
I mean your votes this game were:
- monty for saying I was 3p
- me for trolling a little bit
I hope you understand that we need soemthing more friendo
liek who are the wolves if it's not you and it's not chox?
12-08-2019, 13:27
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan
What wolf team would have ever had egix carry the kill there?
In all honesty?
One where I am a goon and my buddies are non-multitasking PRs.
At least that's how it would be on MS. I have no idea whether multitasking scums are the norm or not on this site tho.
12-08-2019, 13:37
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
If I'm to put this in a readslist I think it goes something like:
Logic
Fable
Zack
Insaner
Monty
ladd
--- town line ---
Csargo
dya
Newyn
Pzelda
Cuth
Egix
Empoof
Choxorn
--- null/idk line ---
merl1n
El Barto
Spicy Merlin placement
Dumb read incoming: if Merlin is a villager, and he was getting read villa by pretty much everyone, how come no one ever asked GH about his placement of Merlin? No wolf thought to ask GH about his Merlin placement there? Kinda strange if he's town. That's such an easy and common wolf question / discussion point to have with villa GH
I'm going to sleep lol
12-08-2019, 13:41
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
ok buy why did you think I was a wolf?
literally just because I was trolling a bit? that's it?
I mean your votes this game were:
- monty for saying I was 3p
- me for trolling a little bit
I hope you understand that we need soemthing more friendo
liek who are the wolves if it's not you and it's not chox?
Not just for that, he also made a vote that seemed like it had been tacked on the end without any forethought.
I don't have much more to give honestly, if you're expecting me to have built solid cases on Day One (which was never my strong suit!) then you're asking for too much.
As for who scums are, I really don't have much of an idea yet (still need to have a go at rereading D1) but if I had to name two people I would say Csargo+Cuth.
12-08-2019, 13:48
Zack
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan
Spicy Merlin placement
Dumb read incoming: if Merlin is a villager, and he was getting read villa by pretty much everyone, how come no one ever asked GH about his placement of Merlin? No wolf thought to ask GH about his Merlin placement there? Kinda strange if he's town. That's such an easy and common wolf question / discussion point to have with villa GH
I'm going to sleep lol
This post is so stupid :laugh4:
12-08-2019, 13:56
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
vote: merl1n
12-08-2019, 14:00
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
meh
doesnt feel great given he was empoof top villa read but we'll see
12-08-2019, 14:00
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan
When I was reading eod, the way GH joined the zelda wagon made me think of how he joined me on Darren Sanders in the finale
GH is an extremely likely villager but I wanted to seed the thread with that knowledge anyway
Fwiw I didn't get a good vibe on GH when he was riding the pzelda wagon either. It seemed like he was looking for excuses to sway the votes elsewhere the entire time.
12-08-2019, 14:04
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Is dya a busser? Because she was the person who stood behind my case on pzelda the most.
12-08-2019, 14:10
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I can see where Zack would make the comparison to my DS vote in the last game where I was mafia against him, but you're forgetting the part a little later on in the day where I independently iso'd Zelda, picked out a post that I found to be a bad look, and signed off on the lynch based on my own reading.
12-08-2019, 14:11
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack Brannigan
Insaner spitroasted a wolf and thinks it's a role madness game. The wolves didn't know barto was going to die and should have been expecting to sacrifice him d2 if they let me live through the night.
Empoof defended zelda iirc and was not really gunning after anyone except choxorn that I remember. I don't know why they would kill him if chox is villa
Not sure why everyone thinks dya is so villagy. She is near the bottom of my POE.
I'm also chuckling at insaner's God read of capage now being correct 3 out of 4 games, which is literally just rand lol
Well to be fair the one time I misread him was in the biggest game of the year where I entirely skipped most of his posts lol
12-08-2019, 14:53
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
Is dya a busser? Because she was the person who stood behind my case on pzelda the most.
yes
havent seen her wolf in a while though, generally I am the one who rands wolf when we play together
12-08-2019, 14:57
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I think merl1n wanting to hold me accountable for Capage flip shows he really had no clue he was going to flip wolf. His posting was super villagery even though his reads were very wrong by the looks of it. He's still in my top towns.
12-08-2019, 15:04
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
unvote
ya, don't feel great voting here for now
still wanna hear more about how he handled you/zelda early on
When I first voted you, it wasn't completely serious. I was aware that you could have just been memeing, but I didn't have any better idea of who to vote, and as you could probably tell from the 1610 reference there was always a chance that you were scum seeking refuge in audacity.
Then when I voted you again closer to EoD, it was because I ultimately decided that a wagon on you was more likely to go through than one on Monty (I understand that people may find this scummy, but putting my vote where I predict it will have more relevance at deadline is something I normally do in games where I can't make deadline [see: all of my MU games])
@Egix explain why it was more likely to go through iyo
12-08-2019, 15:07
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
yes
havent seen her wolf in a while though, generally I am the one who rands wolf when we play together
She certainly may have felt like Capage was going always down here with how much I was pushing for his death while claiming to have a god read on him. And his posting wasn't very good. It's possible that she thought she was obligated to read him right after I said that this is what I expected of her. Perhaps I shouldn't be giving her THAT much credit for that and read her with more scrutiny.
12-08-2019, 15:25
GeneralHankerchief
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
I wouldn't have made such a careless post about someone if I actually knew they were scum.
My problem with that post is that it's just a bad post regardless of the person you're townreading's alignment. It's like... of all the things to make a joke read for, using "thrice" instead of "three times"? I know you dropped the phrase "tonal memes read" but it doesn't even make sense really, just seemed super awkward in general. And then to have PZelda flip mafia, and have you make that post at a time when they weren't picking up much heat (and thus your post was more likely to disappear into the ether assuming PZelda would have survived for longer than he did)... just oof.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.
What about scumreads? You see the great majority of us going through the thread and POEing it down, or at least trying to. There are obviously some disagreements over exact placements (dya, merl1n, etc), but if you're town you're in the unique position of knowing that the general consensus is incorrect at some point besides you. Who do you think we should be lynching instead of you today?
12-08-2019, 15:30
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
@Egix explain why it was more likely to go through iyo
Insaner was willing to vote you, and the general impression I was getting was that other Monty voters might be moving off him (e.g. on to Zelda/Bart)
12-08-2019, 15:34
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
can you elaborate on both of the bolded?
I know the first is kinda self explaining but I wanna know exactly how you felt about people on both wagons at that point and what made you switch like that
to add some context, this was the votecount at the time where cuth switched from monty to barto cause he said wagon composition looked better
I don't get why you thought so since you had pzelda as a villa read?
and you didn't town read anyone on bart wagon except zack afair
feel free to correct me if I am misremembering something, or if insaner vc was wrong
12-08-2019, 15:35
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
I feel pretty decent about emp/gh v/w world in some order but curious to see how some stuff plays out
why did you think so? and what was that "stuff"?
12-08-2019, 15:36
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
Insaner was willing to vote you, and the general impression I was getting was that other Monty voters might be moving off him (e.g. on to Zelda/Bart)
alrighty, I knew you were probably gonna answer like this but worth a shot anyway
so why did you not care to see why people were wolf reading bart and pzelda?
12-08-2019, 15:36
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I'm telling yall this better flip wolf or I'm sussing GH HARD tomorrow.
vote: Egix
12-08-2019, 15:40
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
also egix, can you explain why you villa read fable/logic more in depth?
12-08-2019, 15:55
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
My problem with that post is that it's just a bad post regardless of the person you're townreading's alignment. It's like... of all the things to make a joke read for, using "thrice" instead of "three times"? I know you dropped the phrase "tonal memes read" but it doesn't even make sense really, just seemed super awkward in general. And then to have PZelda flip mafia, and have you make that post at a time when they weren't picking up much heat (and thus *your post was more likely to disappear into the ether assuming PZelda would have survived for longer than he did)... just oof.
What about scumreads? You see the great majority of us going through the thread and POEing it down, or at least trying to. There are obviously some disagreements over exact placements (dya, merl1n, etc), but if you're town you're in the unique position of knowing that the general consensus is incorrect at some point besides you. Who do you think we should be lynching instead of you today?
I thought that that specific choice of word made it more believable that he had actually read the post more than once, which is something that I thought town would be more likely to do. 'Thrice' is quite an archaic word so I would feel like, if someone actually went out of their way to read a post more than once, they would also go out of their way to choose fancy words.
Yyyeah it's only when I actually type this out that I realise how absurd it sounds :sad3:
*: It's not like I was intending for that post to go unnoticed. I would have been able to give that explanation at the time if anyone had asked me about it when it was new.
As I said to ladd earlier, my GTH scums are Csargo and Cuth... possibly dya as a plus-one. The problem I see now though, as I type this, is that really I'm just going with the consensus on you/ladd/Zack.
12-08-2019, 15:57
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
I thought that that specific choice of word made it more believable that he had actually read the post more than once, which is something that I thought town would be more likely to do. 'Thrice' is quite an archaic word so I would feel like, if someone actually went out of their way to read a post more than once, they would also go out of their way to choose fancy words.
Yyyeah it's only when I actually type this out that I realise how absurd it sounds :sad3:
*: It's not like I was intending for that post to go unnoticed. I would have been able to give that explanation at the time if anyone had asked me about it when it was new.
As I said to ladd earlier, my GTH scums are Csargo and Cuth... possibly dya as a plus-one. The problem I see now though, as I type this, is that really I'm just going with the consensus on you/ladd/Zack.
this seems villagery
keep it up broski
12-08-2019, 16:00
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
wait, you are syaing you have no read on me /gh/zack but you have one on like newyin for example?
that'd be peculiar
12-08-2019, 16:09
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
vote: GeeEich
12-08-2019, 16:14
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
also egix, can you explain why you villa read fable/logic more in depth?
From what I've read of Fable's games (mainly Champs), I would say that they are more aggro (can't really think of a better term than this, it's like they actually do a lot of stuff to look town) as scum, and more laid-back (or, dare I say, lackadaisical?) as town. Ofc I think that Fable's play this game is more in line with the latter.
As for Logic, my impression of his meta is that he's a bit like me - obvious scum as scum, and not-obvscum as town. I thought that p#321 (idk if this forum has a button/tags for postnums, apologies) was a well-thought-out post (hence why I described it as a source of good vibes) and I feel that if he were scum it would have been... not as good? Obviously this read doesn't apply had that post been written by anyone else, and this isn't as strong as the Fable read.
12-08-2019, 16:19
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
wait, you are syaing you have no read on me /gh/zack but you have one on like newyin for example?
that'd be peculiar
I forgot Newyn was a thing tbh
He's null for me rn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insaner
vote: GeeEich
Huh, I'm intrigued by this. Lemme find your reasoning.
12-08-2019, 16:21
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
alrighty thanks
guess I ll read some of your games to check if it s true there is such a difference between your villa play and your wolf play
12-08-2019, 16:22
ladd
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
alrighty, I knew you were probably gonna answer like this but worth a shot anyway
so why did you not care to see why people were wolf reading bart and pzelda?
still would like this answered too
12-08-2019, 16:31
Egix
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
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Originally Posted by Insaner
Is dya a busser?
I'm pretty sure she's well known for it. IIRC she herself says that she busses like a madman.
12-08-2019, 16:34
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Egix
Huh, I'm intrigued by this. Lemme find your reasoning.
The first reason is he was trying to find reasons to move votes off pzelda yesterday. I might provide quotes when I'm on computer but not rn.
The other reason is this post.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
My problem with that post is that it's just a bad post regardless of the person you're townreading's alignment. It's like... of all the things to make a joke read for, using "thrice" instead of "three times"? I know you dropped the phrase "tonal memes read" but it doesn't even make sense really, just seemed super awkward in general. And then to have PZelda flip mafia, and have you make that post at a time when they weren't picking up much heat (and thus your post was more likely to disappear into the ether assuming PZelda would have survived for longer than he did)... just oof.
I don't believe GH believes his scum read on you. Like, you have so many things going against you: you ended up on what seems to be the only villager wagon at EoD (and the timing of that vote was horrible as well imo), you had no good interactions with any of the flipped wolves, and this quote where you give a meme read on pzelda is truly unfortunate. I think that all of the above means that we oughta just hammer you right now tbh. And yet he is giving you so much benefit of the doubt here which I just don't understand. It's like he has 0 faith in you flipping scum.
12-08-2019, 16:37
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
Btw the way ladd is questioning Egix right now feels honest to me.
12-08-2019, 16:44
Insaner
Re: 04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread
I guess it isn't the fact that GH is giving Egix the benefit of the doubt itself but rather the contrast between how he started today ("Egix is always the lynch") and the sudden loss of conviction that is putting me off so much. Egix didn't make any towny posts in that time and GH didn't come up with any new suspects either so I don't understand where this change of heart is coming from.