Futuramafia [Concluded]

This is time you could be using to point fingers at the scum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDfBLFyTBM4

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Your average for the first 7 days is about 22 posts per day. Then you were really active on the 25th, and your activity has been dropping like a rock ever since.

Activity tends to go up as we have more information and claims and vote history. Why is yours going downward?

Dp's activity looks more standard. Also about 22 per day, but did 27 yesterday and 4 more today.

Monty at 12 per day before the 23rd, goes up and down, usually more active since then. Very active on the 23rd.

Need to check and see what was happening on those days that got spikes in activity.

OK, I can't get any solid groupings out of this. It's almost certain one or more scum is outside of my naughty list, but only atheotes and novice are worth looking at by default given what's available (too strong on DP and Riedquat, almost nothing on JHT and Al Sip), and if I'm to default then it should be on Winston or Cuthilius. GH and Pizza can have tonight to 'work their magic'. Should tell us a few things, if GH agrees to jailkeep Pizza, and Pizza agrees to track GH. If Pizza himself is town, then he should give an honest account:

If GH keeps him, then he should admit no result.
If GH keeps someone else, then regardless of GH's alignment so long as Pizza is town he will tell us whom GH visits.

Admittedly, this gives us no information if they are both scum, but that's too much for me ATM. Also, it technically does not tell us that GH is town if Pizza is indicated town. Assume neither is third-party for simplicity.

A visualization:

	GH keeps Pizza	GH keeps someone else
Town P/Town G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH's activity
Town P/Scum G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH activity (risky for GH)
Scum P/Town G	Pizza wildcard	Pizza wildcard
Scum P/Scum G	Yeah right	God help us

Why wouldn't scum Pizza follow the behavior of town Pizza as listed above? Because that would be too reactive and low-reward. Scum Pizza would claim something sure to drive the lynch, such as 'X night-killed Y. Thankfully, there's also a third element in Riedquat to scan GH, even if weakly.

OK, never mind, it doesn't work.

Vote: Winston

I strongly recommend GH and Pizza follow this plan.

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Monty at 12 per day before the 23rd, goes up and down, usually more active since then. Very active on the 23rd.

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Probably I was leading in the lynch.

WH at 11 per day average total, but has very regular spikes in activity over and over, then absent. The spikes are at 34, 24, and 17, which is downward, yet still much more than the 9 per day average he started with. I also think all of this activity is above his baseline.

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OK, never mind, it doesn't work.

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I forgot to delete this sentence after I figured out the dynamic, disregard it.

I saw a lot of talking and a vote for Winston, and the two weren't related. What's your reasoning on Winston?

novice activity irregular, but activity now matches activity toward the beginning of the game.

Day 3 activities. What do you think?

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Originally Posted by novice

There were zero votes on Pizza. I was just asking for his claim so we could get on with the day.

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Wrong. Monty, Cuth, and Pelican all voted Pizza before you did.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Day 3 activities. What do you think?

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If I iso'ed you, would I find a case in your history somewhere? Do I have to do that in order to find such a case?

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

Wrong. Monty, Cuth, and Pelican all voted Pizza before you did.

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Huh. My apologies, you're correct.
Well, I wasn't caught up at the time, the day was fresh in my mind, and I wanted to get a pizza claim and get on with the day.

Ok wow.

I couldn't find anything resembling a coherent sentence about Winston from Monty, but you did mention him as scum repeatedly.

Not only that, I've found like four other people who insist Winston is scum, and absolutely nothing has happened on that front.

Everyone keeps saying it, no one actually does anything about it. And that's fucking weird.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is time you could be using to point fingers at the scum.

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That was thumbed out going from one customer site to another. I know better than you what I do and don't have time for.

I think Winston is town. Surely my lone (?) opinion on that isn't actually stopping anyone, especially if I'm so frigging shady that I've been wagoned for the past 2 straight days for no reason at all, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Dp101

What do you think of the mason claim?

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

We both dropped a minor hint that we knew the other was town:
Newyn: This guy is lock town. Trust me.

Choxorn: What makes you say that? Newyn seems to me like inactive lazy town, kind of like I am.

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My first thought was that the Choxorn hint was maybe too minor to be counted as a breadcrumb, but Newyn's breadcrumb is pretty definitive and he's the confirmed townie. So I believe it.

Which makes me trust GH's claim less, since there are so many claimed and confirmed town power roles.

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Originally Posted by novice

That was thumbed out going from one customer site to another. I know better than you what I do and don't have time for.

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Let's try this, then.

Give me a time frame where you'll be here for at least 1 hour. We're in the same time zone.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I think Winston is town. Surely my lone (?) opinion on that isn't actually stopping anyone, especially if I'm so frigging shady that I've been wagoned for the past 2 straight days for no reason at all, by the way.

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I've been reading Winston as town most of the game.

I'll be following the thread for the next four hours.

Assuming Choxorn is town and correcting Stork's color:

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

1 Not Voting: El Barto
End of Day one

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6 BSmith (novice, Stork, Generalhankerchief, Cuthillius, Dp101, Askthepizzaguy)

3 novice (Visor, atheotes, BSmith)

2 Riedquat (Montmorency, Winston Hughes)

1 Choxorn (Al Sipsclar)
1 CrimsonFox (khaan)
1 Montmorency (Pelican)
1 seireikhaan (CrimsonFox)
1 Visor (Murska)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

3 Not Voting: Choxorn, Newyn, Riedquat
End of Day Two.

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9 Stork (novice, cuthillius, dp101, Winston, johnhughthom, Askthepizzaguy, choxorn, Newyn, al sipsclar)

5 Askthepizzaguy (montmorency, pelican, riedquat, murska, Stork)

2 novice (atheotes, generalhankerchief)

End of Day Three.

I have been calling Winston outright scum since page 53/post 1776 or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

OK, I can't get any solid groupings out of this. It's almost certain one or more scum is outside of my naughty list, but only atheotes and novice are worth looking at by default given what's available (too strong on DP and Riedquat, almost nothing on JHT and Al Sip), and if I'm to default then it should be on Winston or Cuthilius. GH and Pizza can have tonight to 'work their magic'. Should tell us a few things, if GH agrees to jailkeep Pizza, and Pizza agrees to track GH. If Pizza himself is town, then he should give an honest account:

If GH keeps him, then he should admit no result.
If GH keeps someone else, then regardless of GH's alignment so long as Pizza is town he will tell us whom GH visits.

Admittedly, this gives us no information if they are both scum, but that's too much for me ATM. Also, it technically does not tell us that GH is town if Pizza is indicated town. Assume neither is third-party for simplicity.

A visualization:

	GH keeps Pizza	GH keeps someone else
Town P/Town G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH's activity
Town P/Scum G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH activity (risky for GH)
Scum P/Town G	Pizza wildcard	Pizza wildcard
Scum P/Scum G	Yeah right	God help us

Why wouldn't scum Pizza follow the behavior of town Pizza as listed above? Because that would be too reactive and low-reward. Scum Pizza would claim something sure to drive the lynch, such as 'X night-killed Y. Thankfully, there's also a third element in Riedquat to scan GH, even if weakly.

OK, never mind, it doesn't work.

Vote: Winston

I strongly recommend GH and Pizza follow this plan.

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Who should report their result first?

If Pizza is scum, what does GH jailing him achieve?
If GH is scum, why do we want him jailing our tracker?

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

I have been calling Winston outright scum since page 53/post 1776 or whatever.

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Yeah and the problem is I don't understand what you're seeing.

Saying it repeatedly but not being able to articulate what the problem is doesn't change minds or make your point known. That plus your constant screaming that I'm scum has made it impossible to take you seriously.

How is Winston scum in plain english that I can follow?

He did X and that was scummy Y format.

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Originally Posted by novice

Who should report their result first?

If Pizza is scum, what does GH jailing him achieve?
If GH is scum, why do we want him jailing our tracker?

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As I said, the exercise is only revealing in regards to Pizza. But that's the gamble I'm willing to take, and anyway Riedquat potentially provides some assurance on GH.

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Originally Posted by Pizza

How is Winston scum in plain english that I can follow?

He did X and that was scummy Y format.

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He has a habit of scum-reading townies, lynching townies, and focusing attention on townies. Visor, Stork (you heard me), Riedquat (:sad:), DP101, Crimson, you name it.

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

I have no confidence at all in my ability to make good reads here, and feel like I'm wasting my time even trying.

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Tilting at Crimson, then pocketing Crimson once the worm had turned

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Hi Crimson. You want me to look at anything?

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Sleazing up toward Cuth as soon as Cuth said Winston was being towny; see also Stork wagon.

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I've been prepping myself for that kind of scumgame for a while.

But I just keep randing town.

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Got to be playing on hard mode.

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Aggressive D1 here, meta as lurker when vanilla.

So you're suggesting he just really loves being scum and that's what lit a fire under his ass.

Speak for yourself!

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Aggressive D1 here, meta as lurker when vanilla.

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I'm just trying to make sense of what you said here. You're saying if he were a vanilla town, he'd have much less activity.

Basically the exact thing I just said, but I'm speaking human and you're speaking your own language.

Not really, I'm saying the circular reasoning has enough external validation to warrant a lynch.

Will you consolidate with me on suspects we agree on if your wagon on winston goes nowhere?

The scums aren't going to have this much difficulty working together on stuff they purport to agree on.

@novice

Which names would you lynch today? When you're done with your rainbow post.

I'm more interested in seeing you work in tandem with GH.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

I'm more interested in seeing you work in tandem with GH.

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There's a lynch that happens before that which is far more important.

I'm fiddling with my browser plugin, this post is for the benefit of that plugin.

Player list:

• Al Sipsclar alias Al alias Sipsclar alias Sips
• Askthepizzaguy alias ATPG alias Pizza
• atheotes
• Choxorn alias chox
• Cuthillius alias cuth
• Dp101 alias dp
• GeneralHankerchief alias gh alias general alias hanky
• johnhughthom alias john alias jht
• Montmorency alias monty
• Murska
• novice
• Pelican
• Riedquat alias kumquat alias reinquat alias reidquat alias quat
• Winston Hughes alias winston alias wh
• spaceman98 alias spaceman
• BSmith
• Stork
• El Barto alias Bart
• Visor
• seireikhaan alias Khaan alias Khan
• CrimsonFox alias Crimson alias Fox alias CF
• Newyn

4 dead town PRs
Choxorn - Mason - looks true.
Pizza - tracker - should resolve itself. Lets see if he can get a track result tonight.
GH - Jailkeeper - doubtful
Winston - softclaimed something - ???

Quat - neutral
We have other PRs. I am assuming the Crimson kill was a one time shot by non town.

I dont believe GH's claim. mainly based on progression to the claim. I also dont like his refusal to speak about his actions. So my vote stays there.
I will try to read up on the dead PRs to see if there were any hints.

Tally as of post 2039:

Lynch votes
3 votes: GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, novice)
3 votes: novice (Cuthillius, Choxorn, Askthepizzaguy)
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Pelican)
1 votes: Winston Hughes (Montmorency)

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Winston Hughes

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Day 1 tally, as of post 429:

Lynch votes
6 votes: spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, El Barto)
4 votes: El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)
4 votes: BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
3 votes: CrimsonFox (BSmith, atheotes, Choxorn)
1 votes: Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)
1 votes: GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 votes: Cuthilius (Askthepizzaguy)
1 votes: Cuthillion (Murska)
1 votes: Crimso Fox (Pelican)

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Day 2 tally, as of post 1210:

Lynch votes
6 votes: BSmith (novice, Stork, GeneralHankerchief, Cuthillius, Dp101, Askthepizzaguy)
2 votes: novice (Visor, atheotes)
2 votes: Riedquat (Montmorency, Winston Hughes)
1 votes: CrimsonFox (seireikhaan)
1 votes: Choxorn (Al Sipsclar)
1 votes: Montmorency (Pelican)
1 votes: Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)
1 votes: seireikhaan (CrimsonFox)
1 votes: Visor (Murska)
1 votes: BSmith! (BSmith)

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Day 3 tally, as of post 1753:

Lynch votes
9 votes: Stork (novice, Cuthillius, Dp101, Winston Hughes, johnhughthom, Askthepizzaguy, Choxorn, Newyn, Al Sipsclar)
5 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Montmorency, Pelican, Riedquat, Murska, Stork)
2 votes: Novice (atheotes, GeneralHankerchief)
1 votes: General: Handkerchief (CrimsonFox)

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My lynch preferences:
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Al Sipsclar
Montmorency

Not really willing to lynch, but continuing the list:
Cuthillius
Pelican
Dp101
Riedquat
Askthepizzaguy
Murska
Winston Hughes
atheotes
Choxorn
novice

I ISO'ed Al Sipsclar, didn't take long. His only post of substance is this one:

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I've read up to this post and just want to mention that I'm also fighting the urge to vote Monty, being kinda out-of-towner myself, so I guess I'm part of that hive mind myself. I only played one game with Monty (he's town, me - scum) so it was not enough to learn his style.

I was ready to vote El Barto today, so I do think he's a lynchbait and would be an unorthodox kill choice for mafia.

This is not the first time Visor is lynching town Spaceman on D1 for posting like Spaceman.

Dp101 reminds me of Cass with his (her? preferred pronouns?) thorough approach to the game. Not alignment indicative, though.

I'll sheep Visor for now and Vote: choxorn

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He has a towny tone but has only voted for confirmed townies, Choxorn, and Stork.
The line "I was ready to vote El Barto today, so I do think he's a lynchbait and would be an unorthodox kill choice for mafia." is a bit cheeky if mafia. He didn't go anywhere N2 (?) according to Pizza. But he stays on my "willing to lynch" list.

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Winston - softclaimed something - ???

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Okey, would be easier to count the known and the presumably vanillas... :inquisitive:

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Guess we're going to have to wait and see what GH and chox have to say for themselves.

I do have an angle here, btw, though to my knowledge I had nothing to do with the situation in question.

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I guess this is the softclaim atheotes is referring to.

Novice, you going to claim? Or did I miss you doing that.

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I don't know if it will activate again when I scan another robot or person of interest to me, but for the time being yes kleptomania is always usable and I guess if my target can kill the result will be like CrimsonFox, a threat to my survival.

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Sounds to me like Riedquat's scan can indeed nail GH. And Riedquat has a personal interest in scanning robots, IIUC. So I may be willing to postpone a GH lynch. OTOH scum can just block Riedquat.

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Day 3 activities. What do you think?

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I'm more interested in seeing you work in tandem with GH.

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So you think Pizza and GH are scum together after all?

I wanted to say something more but it's slipped my mind.

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Do you want me to?

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I mean, everyone else is, and a complete list would be nice. Also, forgot to mention this, but thanks for adapting the plugin, it makes it so much easier to play the game.

JohnHughThom, I sympathize with your mission statement on enjoying the game and not polluting the thread, but I think at this point you should be able to provide some commentary. Or do you disagree, has everything needing to be said been said?

This seems like a useful feature on this forum, if I can get it to work: @johnhughthom, question for you in the previous post.

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Sounds to me like Riedquat's scan can indeed nail GH. And Riedquat has a personal interest in scanning robots, IIUC. So I may be willing to postpone a GH lynch. OTOH scum can just block Riedquat.

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Or scum can just kill me and tomorrow town will be again stuck in today's situation. I would like a full disclosure from GH's night actions first, I just can't see the harm on it...

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JohnHughThom, I sympathize with your mission statement on enjoying the game and not polluting the thread, but I think at this point you should be able to provide some commentary. Or do you disagree, has everything needing to be said been said?

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For what is worth he is no threat.... to me!

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I guess this is the softclaim atheotes is referring to.

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Not sure... need to check all his posts, but perhaps was something else.

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For what is worth he is no threat.... to me!

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So you scanned him? When? Remind me what your night actions have been.

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@Cuthillius

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Today: 5
Yesterday: 12
27: 16 posts
26: 17 posts
25: 46 posts
24: 6 posts (truncated) 256 in total
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Your average for the first 7 days is about 22 posts per day. Then you were really active on the 25th, and your activity has been dropping like a rock ever since.

Activity tends to go up as we have more information and claims and vote history. Why is yours going downward?

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My activity always varies depending on how many people are in the thread and how much there is to discuss. I revert to MU-type posting when the thread is alive and people are posting, and more to GitP-type meta when it's not. It hasn't really been very invigoratingly active of late.

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My activity always varies depending on how many people are in the thread and how much there is to discuss. I revert to MU-type posting when the thread is alive and people are posting, and more to GitP-type meta when it's not. It hasn't really been very invigoratingly active of late.

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This is true of literally every game I play in that has more than GitP-level activity. That one we played in recently where I had 358 posts on d1? 278 on d2, 51 on d3, 49 on d4, 52 on d5, and 75 on the last day.

novice, do you really think hankerchief's mason claim is a lie? why?

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was that someone else?

wait right that was

sorry

disregard

murska thoughts on the gamestate?

Later. Busy now.

Official Tally

3 GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, novice)
3 novice (Cuth, Choxorn, ATPG)

1 Askthepizzaguy (Pelican)
1 Winston Hughes (Monty)

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4 Not Voting: @Dp101, @GeneralHankerchief, @Riedquat, @Winston Hughes

2 Not Posting: @Al Sipsclar, @johnhughthom

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So you scanned him? When? Remind me what your night actions have been.

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Rereading Riedquat, as far as I can see he has claimed scanning CrimsonFox on N1 and nothing else yet. I also found an interesting suggestion, that El Barto was killed by Visor.

Dp101, have you actually made any cases in this game? I kind of want to lynch you despite your eminent ability to look town.

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Dp101, have you actually made any cases in this game? I kind of want to lynch you despite your eminent ability to look town.

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I think most of my cases were early on, I was going to make one against Winston but couldn't find any of the evidence I remembered.

Right. Well, I accept Pizza's claim for now. I still want to lynch GH, his claim is iffy, his lack of claimed actions is also terrible.

If GH doesn't claim actions I will lynch him.

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a vote is a stronger statement.

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Whether I put my vote on him now and remove it once he claims or place it on him an hour before if he still hasn't claimed makes no difference.

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Whether I put my vote on him now and remove it once he claims or place it on him an hour before if he still hasn't claimed makes no difference.

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if it makes no difference to you, please indulge me and vote

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if it makes no difference to you, please indulge me and vote

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Seconded.

Fine Vote: GeneralHankerchief

It would be helpful to me if the people voting for GH for "pressure to reveal" reasons would do me the favor of continuing to talk about alternative candidates, as if GH had just claimed all his actions and you believe that makes him town.

Not for funsies, but so that if a decision is made (after I go to bed, mind you) not to lynch GH, it isn't a giant cluster, because alternatives have already been discussed.

Right now I wouldn't mind a lurker lynch, or maybe Monty.

Look, you aren't getting me to pressure-claim actions. That's just something that isn't going to happen.

Rationally and reasonably argue how me disclosing my actions benefits the town, and we'll start talking.

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Look, you aren't getting me to pressure-claim actions. That's just something that isn't going to happen.

Rationally and reasonably argue how me disclosing my actions benefits the town, and we'll start talking.

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If you reveal your actions and the reasoning behind them we can see how they fit with your actions in the thread, to get a better read on you.
I don't see much downside in scum learning townyou's actions. Maaybe they have failed actions requiring explanation, such as a failed kill that could be caused by you or by e.g. a bulletproof townie, but they can probably guess anyway. Town can't. At any rate the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

By not claiming you're also denying town power roles the opportunity to catch you in a lie.

test

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4 GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, novice, Dp101)

3 novice (Cuthillius, Choxorn, Askthepizzaguy)

1 Pizza (Pelican)
1 Winston (Montmorency)

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