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Vote Puffy Shirt: Shlin
Vote Traitorous Elf: Bow-wow-wow
Vote Killer Rabbit: Crazed Rabbit (I can't see the rabbit going to anybody better IMO.)
There, that's all my votes used. I'll trade my vote on the puffy shirt and self-votes on the Animator and Cartoon hammer for votes for me on the Omega Virus Sample and Custom Desert Eagle if anybody's interested.
My 1 credit vote on Subo is quite redundant though, so Fold and Bet 1 credit: Renata to put her on par with YLC.
I have to be totally honest, I think that list of best so far is pretty good. I am going to change my vote to reflect it and I recommend others do as well.
Unvote:
Vote:
Jerry Seinfeld's PUFFY SHIRT (10% Bulletproof item) to Slin28
Blitzen's TRAITOROUS ELF (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% INVESTIGATORY) to Bow-wow-wow
The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item) to Death is Yonder
Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item) to Grayblades
El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Beskar
Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item) to Jolt
Done. I want puffyQuote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
vote Puffy Shirt to MRD
vote Omega to Arpegg
vote Desert Eagle to Arpegg
n/a
vote Puffy Shirt to MRD
vote Omega to Arpegg
vote Desert Eagle to Arpegg
Unvote:
Vote:
Jerry Seinfeld's PUFFY SHIRT (10% Bulletproof item) to MRD
Blitzen's TRAITOROUS ELF (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% INVESTIGATORY) to ABSTAIN
The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item) to EliteWarman
Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item) to EliteWarman
El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item) to ABSTAIN
Damnit, I forgot to bold. U too Warman. No edits, remember
Unvote:
Vote:
Jerry Seinfeld's PUFFY SHIRT (10% Bulletproof item) to MRD
Blitzen's TRAITOROUS ELF (FACTION SCANNING ITEM + 10% INVESTIGATORY) to ABSTAIN
The Black Beast's ANIMATOR (10% Retaliatory item) to EliteWarman
Itchy and Scratchy's CARTOON MALLET (10% Retaliatory item) to EliteWarman
El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
Alfred Branagh's CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Arpeggiatethis
Killer Rabbit's KILLER RABBIT (10% Vigilante item) to ABSTAIN
All this blue is making my eyes bleed
Bet: 5 Credits on Thefluffyone. Your votes and your posts are rather ridiculous, even for you.
PUFFY SHIRT to Major Robert Dump
TRAITOROUS ELF to Bow-wow-wow
ANIMATOR to Death is Yonder
CARTOON MALLET to Warman
OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE to Beskar
CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE to Arpeg
KILLER RABBIT to Crazed Rabbit
1) He's either lurking or completely inactive. Neither of which is helpful or enjoyable for the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
2) He seems to be a "safe" bet at this point, in that I'll likely get my chips back.
3) In a past life (as the Killer Rabbit) I performed a faction scan on him. I'm not implying that he's definitely chaotic, but his death would not displease me in the least bit.
Then it appears we have a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Unvote; Vote:
Puffy Shirt to Major Robert Dump
Traitorous Elf to Bow-wow-wow
Animator to myself
Cartoon Hammer to myself
Omega Virus Sample to myself
Custom Desert Eagle to myself
Killer Rabbit to Crazed Rabbit
Gah, blue everywhere.
Bet 5 credits on Lubber
Don't try and force a lynch with huge bets. Its not getting us anywhere.
I don't know who should get the items, and I certainly don't want them ending up in the wrong hands, so I'll refrain from voting on them.
Unvote:
Vote:
El Gigante's OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE (10% Retaliatory item) to Beskar
EDIT: Forgot to bold.
So why not mention these points beforehand, especially the last point? Also, if YLC is anti-whatever-you-faction-is but not chaotic, wouldn't be the more prudent solution to vote for some people who actually could be chaotic?Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
:no:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
I got just one question to you Mr Vote-seller: Why were you willing to trade your vote for the Puffy Shirt, but not the traitorous elf (which is by far the more powerful item). Sure Bow-wow-wow has a lead and it would be difficult to convince anyone to try to get it, but I got a solid lead too. Do I detect the signs of CHAOTIC collusion behind the scene mayhap? :inquisitive: or am I just being a paranoid person as usual?
Lastly, to everyone: please don't give any one person more than 1 item - do we really need someone with a 40% retaliatory item running around? Hell, do we really need 2 people each with 20%? When we have no clues as to their identity? Spreading out the items is the only way to be sure - I don't even particularly care if I get that Shirt or not, but the crucial thing is don't let your greed get ahead of the need of the evil guys as a whole. I imagine quite a few people are right now quite pleased about making deals and what not in the past few hours in order to get themselves a few votes, but really, think about the consequences for the end of the game.
GIVE ME EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF ITEMS OR GIVE ME DEATH!
PS: I can be bitterly opportunistic too! Unvote: Custom Desert Eagle for Arpeg :laugh4:
https://i1110.photobucket.com/albums...g?t=1303596150Quote:
Originally Posted by Choxorn
Sure - fold; Bet 9 YLC
The answer is incredibly simple: Bow-wow-wow is voting for me to have the Desert Eagle, so I'm returning the favour as he asked people to. See here, you've even quoted this yourself:Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bow-wow-wow
So yeah, just paranoid. And you're totally mean too for that unvote.
Bet 5 credits on YLC
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
So... did... I...
~:mecry:
If YLC has been scanned, and the scan implies that he might be scum, then it is worth a shot.
Bet 5 credits on YLC
Now I am off to bed :)
There was a scan on him?
I thought this all started cuz Chaotix wanted to save his own :daisy:ss.
TBH I just took me and the first 6 people who voted. Some of them had 1 or 2 items that they wanted so I tried tio give everybody the one I want.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
I'm not going to do this every round because I want everybody to have an item since we don't know who is on our side. I just figured I'd get dibs on the first batch.
And BTW you shouldn't be complaining, I voted you that nice Puffy shirt. Now if you'd care to return the favor. . . . . .
OK back from studying for a quick post. Fold; Bet: 5 credits on YLC
I am switching my vote because Renata's posts seems to make sense to me from a quick glance. It's the hear no evil, see no evil, monkey thing. Obviously there must be some sort of restriction going on for her otherwise she would post...like a normal person I guess is what I want to say. Good picture to get the message across.
So a scan thinks YLC is scummy and right now I think that is the best thing we got. I will be back once tomorrow to check in and then monday I have my chemistry midterm so I will be away until late monday.
Yeah, kinda expected that. Sorry for not providing any support for the vote; I only had a minute and I just wanted to get my vote through, since I (correctly) predicted I wouldn't be able to get on for a day or so. His vote was only bandwagoning (the Renata one, by the way, I find very weak) and then he instantly went OMGUS on the first person to speak against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thefluffyone93
However, if this scan is true, then we should go after who we have conclusive evidence against.
Fold; Bet: 5 credits on YLC
PUFFY SHIRT
Shlin: 5 (shlin, Bow, Jolt, Ironside, Beskar
Diana: Diana
Gamez: Gamez
Chaotix: Fluffy
Beefy: Beefy
Diamondeye: Diamondeye, Psychonaut
Blackadder: Blackadder
MRD: MRD, Warman, choxorn, Arpeg,
TRAITOROUS ELF
Bow-wow-wow: 7 (Bow-wow-wow, Jolt, Skooma,Ironside, Arpeg, Beskar, choxorn, shlin
Psychonaut: Psychonaut
Arpeg: Diana
RedSpy: RedSpy
FluffyOne: FluffyOne
Gamez: Gamez
Beefy: Beefy
Diamondeye: Diamondeye
Robbiecon: Robbiecon
ANIMATOR
DIY: 6 (DIY, shlin28, Bow, Ironside, Beskar, choxorn,
Arpeg: Arpeg, Subotan
Psychonaut: Psychonaut, Diamondeye
Chaotix: Chaotix, Fluffy
Jolt: Jolt
dcmort: dcmort
Diana: Diana
Gamez: Gamez
Beefy: Beefy
Believer: Believer
Warman: MRD
CARTOON MALLET
Greyblades: 5 (Greyblades, shlin, Bow, Ironside, Beskar
Arpeg: Arpeg, Subotan
Psychonaut: Psychonaut, Diamondeye
Jolt: Jolt
dcmort: dcmort
Blackadder: Diana
Gamez: Gamez
Beefy: Beefy
Believer: Believer
Warman: MRD, choxorn
OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE
Beskar: 7 (Beskar, Diana, shlin, Bow, Ironside, choxorn, Jolt
Arpeg: Arpeg, Subotan, MRD, Warman
Psychonaut: Psychonaut, Diamondeye
dcmort: dcmort
Gamez: Gamez
Skooma: Skooma
Chaotix: Fluffy
Beefy: Beefy
Believer: Believer
CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE
Arpeg: 8 (Arpeg, Subotan, Bow, Ironside, Beskar, MRD, Warman, choxorn,
Psychonaut: Psychonaut, Diamondeye,
Jolt: Jolt
dcmort: dcmort
Autolycus: Autolycus
DIY: Diana
Gamez: Gamez
Chaotix: Fluffy
Beefy: Beefy
Believer: Believer
KILLER RABBIT
Jolt: 5 (Jolt, shlin, Bow, Ironside, Beskar
Chaotix: Chaotix, Fluffy
Psychonaut: Psychonaut
landlubber: landlubber
dcmort: dcmort
Diana: Diana
Gamez: Gamez
Beefy: Beefy
Diamondeye: Diamondeye
Crazed Rabbit: Arpeg, choxorn,
LYNCH
YLC: 70 (20 Subotan, 1 Shlin28, 20 B_ray, 9 Diamondeye, 5 Blackadder, 5 God Emperor, 5 ACIN, 5 Mythmonster
Chaotix: 30 (10 Fluffy, 20 Landlubber)
Renata 16 (1 Jolt, 2 Autolycus, 2 Diana Abnoba, 2 Bow-wow-wow, 1 Beksar, 5 Gamez, 1 dcmort, 1 Ironside, 1 Arpeg,
Fluffy: 11 (1 Believer, 5 Chaotix, 5 choxorn,
ACIN: 9 (4 Psychonaut, 5 Zack
Choxorn: 5 (5 RedSpy,
Beskar: 5 (5 Skooma
Bow-wow-wow: 2 (2 Beefy
landlubber: (1 Link
Psychonaut 1 (1 DIY,
Not Voting to lynch:
Backwards Logic
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Earthling
El Barto
Greyblades
Major Robert Dump
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Visorslash
Warman
YLC
I'm sorry about that. I was just pissed at a midterm I just took.Quote:
Originally Posted by mythmonster2
Fold: Bet 5 credits YLC
Also ATPG in your latest tally, you have a one person voting for me to have the Traitorous elf that you haven't included in the tally. (look at your last post)
Also ATPG how exactly does the wager system work? Do you get money back if the person you wagered on is lynched or only if they are chaotic? I'm a bit confused on that.
ATPG's rules state that you only get your wager back the lynchee is both successfully lynched and guilty. I assume that "guilty" means either chaotic or neutral. I don't know if there's any other alignments at work (other than evil, of course).
Also, I didn't say that YLC is chaotic! I just said that the result of my faction scan gave me little reason to value his continued existance, especially if he's going to remain inactive.
I think what B Ray is saying is that YLC is either nuetral or mafia and a different faction than he. At this point, there is no way to save YLC unless other large votes are laid on other people or votes removed from YLC. If YLC is mafia and NOT neutral, you people are gonna lose your credits. If he is nuetral, you will break even.
Lesson learned. Get in on the item votes early, or when you try to make a grab you will be accused of some behind-the-scenes-johnny-come-lately-chaotic drivel. I just wanted the puffy shirt because that one seemed to be the least wanted. I am still willing to trade item votes, but the tallies for the leaders are so high on the other items there is almost no point. Statistically speaking, at least one of the recipients will be chaotic, so theres no point speculating on who is more deserving, either.
*Sigh* I don't want to lose credits, and it doesn't look like anyone but YLC's getting lynched, so Fold, Bet 5 credits: YLC, but I really think we need to pressure some people more and avoid these huge bandwagons. It may cost us some credits to be on the second or third place lynch, but we really need to keep the second and third place lynches closer to first place.
Simple- I find him scummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
However, I do admit my wager was unrealistic and hasty.
Fold, Bet 5 credits on Chaotix.
This is gonna happen every round unless people will part with their hard earned credits. These huge wagons aren't good for discussion, and while we probably won't be seeing anything of the kind tonight, suppose someone shows up late and defends themselves? Oh, sorry guy, but its far too late to save yourself, as people pile votes on you to save their credits. The best solution is to place small bets. You have little to lose that way. These 20 credit votes are ridiculous, and in addition, completely unnecessary. YLC is getting lynched regardless. Making these large bets only increases the chance of you losing a lot is he turns out not to be chaotic, which he was never explicitly stated to be.
In the future, we should try to say things in a way that makes it perfectly clear what you mean, which frankly, is still quite doubtful. Is he chaotic or not? Or are you being purposely unclear to protect yourself regardless of his alignment?Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
Anyway, this lynch is going nowhere but YLC's way, but out of principle and not contradicting myself, I fold.
Just 'cause, you know, I kind of said it earlier: Small votes are the way to go. And anyone find it odd that for a guy who talks a lot, Earthling has disappeared for the entirety of today? Since I don't want to throw credits away, and because there's really no point to jumping on the YLC bandwagon at this point since it seems he's mafia based of of B-Ray's latest post, I will abstain for today. Maybe tomorrow we can try again with more manageable wagers?
Fold,
Bet: 1 on YLC
Merely conservation of credits here. My vote is not needed or wanted.
Hmm, returning the favor.
Vote:
Puffy Shirt to Shlin28
Traitorous Elf to Bow-wow-wow
Omega Virus Sample to Beskar
On another note, I disapprove of the lazy bandwagoning of YLC whose case was explicitly stated as mostly personal (faction goal maybe?) reasons.
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
Clearly if YLC was such a big threat to evil B-Ray would not have hesitated to wait 4 and a half hours to add on the elaboration. I'm more inclined to believe that its just a "help me to complete my faction goals" thing, and B-Ray himself even confirms that he didn't explicitly say YLC was chaotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
Nevertheless, the phase is ending, and the lynch is most definitely not going to be reversed, so in the interest of possibly getting my credit back:
Fold;
Bet 1 Credit: YLC
Since credits are ultimately essential to preventing a forced anti-mafia victory, it would be good to nevertheless endeavor to preserve credits in situations like this.Quote:
Anyway, this lynch is going nowhere but YLC's way, but out of principle and not contradicting myself, I fold.
TIME UP. VOTES WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED PAST 0100.
Writeup in progress. Please send in night actions.
Reminder: Revealing information about yourself privately is not allowed. Revealing information about other people is allowed.
Claims about self must be made publicly before they can be made privately.
Helpful hint/reminder:
Here is a complete list of things you can attempt to do without spending credits or using items, for the purposes of trying to uncover your hidden talent with your second action slot.
1. Investigate someone
2. Roleblock someone
3. Vigilante kill someone
4. Protect someone else
5. Protect yourself
6. Kill your attacker
7. Resist Theft
8. Resist Scan
9. Resist Roleblock
10. Revive player
11. Bus driver (remember, this targets two players)
12. Steal item
You have two action slots. You can perform an item-based move, a credit-based move, or a move based on your innate hidden talent/learned abilities and doesn't use your item or credits.
You can attempt to perform anything on that list. Since you have two slots, you should use both. Some of those actions are to your clear and obvious advantage regardless and cost you nothing to attempt, and should it fail, it's the same as if you never sent in a second action.
Remember to describe who your target is at all times, and if you're trying to steal credits, how many you're willing to spend in the attempt.
DAY TWO
Shaken by the loss of so many of their own, the villains gathered together at the center of the city to discuss which of them were the traitors. They accused each other mightily, with several candidates discussed as probable targets, but in the end, the silent one was chosen by a landslide. Further, many were so convinced of their choice, they wagered heavily against their target, leaving absolutely no margin for error.
The Angel: "Who among you have you decided is responsible for these heinous crimes?"
The villains shouted in unison.
"YLC! YLC! YLC! YLC!"
The strange figure known only as YLC stood in the shadows at the back of the crowd, glaring at them, even as their accusations grew louder and more ferocious. He said nothing.
The Angel: "Bring him before me."
The crowd looked around, unsure of the creature's whereabouts, until suddenly, one of the animals spotted him, lurking in the darkness.
"There he is! Kill the lurker! Cut his throat! Bash him in! Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!"
They scrambled toward the lurking figure, surrounding him. Quickly, his accusers tried to subdue him, with Subotan leading the way. Many others charged forward, fighting amongst each other, trying to destroy the hated lurker. He was guilty of something, and that's all they needed to know.
The one known as YLC said nothing, but stepped out of the shadows to reveal his true form.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The advancing army didn't even slow down, but YLC gripped his weapons tightly and began hurling them at the approaching force. Many of them were smashed roughly in the head, and others were severely wounded by the painful projectiles. Still, none of this deterred the crowd, and although the creature put up a valiant struggle, we was quickly captured and disarmed, and dragged before the Angelic One.
The Angel: "YLC, you have been found guilty by your peers. Have you any last words?"
YLC said nothing, but he did roll his eyes at the group.
The Angel: "Very well. Now you shall die in a manner most fitting! Behold my power!!!"
The Angel summoned a massive amount of energy, and a beam of light fell from the heavens, landing in the center of town. From the ground came a large, green, cylindrical object. It seemed to be some kind of large sewer pipe, strangely pointing up for no apparent reason.
From out of this pipe came a familiar figure clad in red and blue, who spotted YLC and immediately stood in a fighting stance. YLC produced more weapons seemingly out of thin air, and finally spoke.
YLC: "Now ya got my Hammer Angry! Ya shouldn't have done that!"
With that, the Hammer Brother split in two and became the Hammer Brothers.
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And he was quickly beaten by that mustachioed plumber, who stole his hammer and jumped down the warp pipe to escape, shouting:
"It's-a me! Mario!"
The villains were quite confused as to what the heck just happened, and why they went through all that just to defeat a foe that could barely fight back. They were tired, and much worse for wear after their failed lynch.
______________________________
YLC has been lynched!
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Alive Players- (42/50)
A completely inoffensive name
ArpeggiateTHIS
Autolycus
B_Ray2 (Replacing Methos)
Backwards Logic
Beefy187
Believer
Beskar
Bow-wow-wow
Captain Blackadder2 (Replacing Double A)
Chaotix
choxorn
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Diana Abnoba
Earthling
El Barto
Fluffyone
GamezRule
God Emperor
Greyblades
Ironside
Jolt
landlubber
Link
Major Robert Dump
Mythmonster2
Psychonaut
Red_Spy
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
shlin28
Skooma Addict
Subotan
Visorslash
Warman
Zack
Deceased-
Jeremy Bentham- Jeremy Bentham [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III- Philosopher's Mafia) Red Joker
Niccolo Machiavelli- Niccolo Machiavelli [Evil] NPC Mafia (Mini Mafia III- Philosopher's Mafia) Black Joker
-------------Night Zero
Captain Blackadder- Jerry Seinfeld [Neutral] Bizarro Mafia (Vexing Mafia) 2 of Clubs
-------------Day One
TheFlax- Blitzen [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy) 3 of Spades
classical_hero- The Black Beast of Aarrrghhh [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) Queen of Clubs
Kagemusha- Itchy and Scratchy [Evil] Springfield Mafia (The Full Monty) 8 of Hearts
ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls) Jack of Clubs
Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT) 8 of Clubs
B_ray- The Killer Rabbit [Evil] Python Mafia (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) King of Clubs
-------------Night One
YLC- Hammer Brother [Evil] Evil Mafia (MarioKart Madness) 7 of Clubs
-------------Day Two
BEGIN NIGHT TWO.
Tally and item results:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Everyone who wagered credits lost their credits. Everyone who did not wager credits lost 1 credit.
If you spot an error in the tally please inform me.
So then. Who was it that scanned YLC?
I did... does no-one read my posts anymore? ~:mecry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bow-wow-wow
Great, so you really were trying to off one of the other evil factions - why would you want to kill off a confirmed but largely harmless opponent? Surely it would have been a better idea to focus on unknown but possibly more worthy lynches, like the other lurkers maybe? You (and possibly Subotan) has just wasted us a lynch :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
HAHAHAHA. Nice lynch, terd heads.
And the best part is B-Ray even stated that YLCs identity was not necessarily chaotic, but one which would serve B-Rays purpose, which anyone could logically assume means that either B-Rays new role is evil with a conflicting faction to YLC or B is straight CHAOTIC. Either of those scenarios could make B-Rays statement true. What a waste of credits.
We now see that there are 5 mafia factions. We also know that factions have nuetral (and possibly chaotic, based on the game rules) players.
Since no one had a big win on lynch bets I am hoping that this means there will be fewer purchased vigilante acts. I'm sure at least one or two Chatoic have free kill abilities, but those of us who successfully defended last time are probably in the clear, as are all the winners of the shiny new items. Nonetheless, I am still expecting a very busy night in terms murders.
Also, Renata is mafia, because she is not bothering to play. When she is town, she starts attacking people with well constructed arguments and not particularly caring.
She's away for the holiday, atleast that's what she told me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
She has posted in thread. :bow:
Also known as the "I am posting on my iphone", as the mafia constantly check how everything is going, while a town might not be that desperate.
Ugh, what a sad lynch, that and the item vote backscratching will probably be useful to scrutinize later. But I have another thing to mention now that I can - I was forced to be quiet by some rare ability, I couldn't say anything on the thread, in private messages, make item votes, or even wagers during that whole Day Phase. And whomever else was silenced, speak up, given that there were at least two of us the chances there were more probably go up greatly.
My best theory, and I'm asking Renata/others if you agree, is that ByzantineKnight caused this, possibly due to his death, may have even hit random people or he chose who to target. For one he was awfully lax talking about night actions and character details while dead...but anyway, what he posted about his character hating "noise" and wanting to quiet everyone is too much of a coincidence. At first I thought it was just one person with a night ability who targeted me specifically, and it was clear I couldn't do like anything so I didn't hang around. But now it seems it happened to Renata too, especially as I just found read a message that said while I couldn't speak any words, I could have posted "smileys" or "images" so obviously the same thing happened to Renata who went ahead and did that. I doubt this is somebody's regular night ability if this affected multiple people, but anyway, in case it happens again to someone I encourage everyone to try to post on the game thread each day, as on the other hand, everyone who didn't post today who wasn't silenced is just being a potentially scummy lurker. And if we ever find out someone still alive was behind this...stop it, cause it's very anti-town.
How do you know there were multiple people?
I don't know that there were more than two, however the same thing that happened to me clearly happened to Renata. Then it stands to reason this was more likely a "one-time" thing and could have affected more. The point being that, while I did think at first this was just someone's unusual night ability who targeted me, it's almost certainly not, nobody has a regular night ability to prevent multiple people from speaking. So I'm thinking chances are that there were more than two with the assumption this was a one-time type of occurence and especially given other people who didn't post during the Day.
Wait...wha? So is this power considered a form of "roleblock" maybe? My main concern is not the inability to talk -- in fact, that is a welcome side effect based on some of the participants irritating comments -- my concern is NOT BEING ABLE TO VOTE, which basically moots a persons bank account, especially when it comes to using your own money to save yourself from being lynched.
This also means we should start discussing potential lynches during night phase, so we can put our heads together and point out ideas that others may miss come daytime when the thread is 5 pages longer.
Also, there are at least 6 factions, not 5 like I previously stated. I know because I know.
I would say the two likely targets for vigilante kills tonight is going to be Bow Wow for having the scanner, and B-Ray for leading a bad lynch. I hesitate to offer protection for Bow Wow because I cannot be certain he is town, and B-Ray even if protected is going to be a good candidate for lynch the following day.
Anyone who bought a vigilante attempt the first night is still unable to afford another unless they are also successfully stealing credits on the side. I would not suggest announcing if you have lost items or credits to theft, because you will become a target and others will know you will be impotent on lynch betting.
@ Earthling, that sounds exactly like what happened to me and @ MRD, yes it did also remove my vote. I wasn't expecting it to have happened to multiple people.
Anyone who seriously thinks I would try to save Seon *in that particular way* if mafia with him, I don't even know what to say. Just no.
Please replace me. :(
I'm so sorry-- I don't check this forum enough.
Don't know why some of you are acting so upset. I never said YLC was chaotic. When I placed my bet on him, I stated that he was lurking and I didn't like that. When asked for further explanation, I confessed that I had faction-scanned him and wouldn't mind if he died. I even explicitly stated that I was not claiming he was chaotic. Then every lazy person in the game bandwaggoned their bets on YLC anyway. I reminded them that I wasn't claiming he was chaotic. What more should I have done? Begged everyone to not place bets on him?
And let me remind everyone of something that seems to have been immediately forgotten after Night 1. Chaotic characters obviously have COVER ROLES! At least Seon did. That means that even if you do faction scan a chaotic player, they will show up as belonging to a lawful evil faction. So it seems to me that the only rational strategy for evil characters (at this point in the game) is to take out their rival factions. At least until we have some more circumstantial evidence to suspect a particular player is chaotic. So for all I knew, YLC could very wall have been chaotic; I just knew that I had no use for him, making him a safer bet than anyone else at the time, given my limited information.
The problem you have now, B Ray, is that everyone in the Evil Mafia Faction now knows that you are not in the Evil Mafia Faction, which means you have 3-7 players gunning for you now.
Seriously, CP? You already quit TWC. Its not that hard to check another forum. I use multiple forums, and I'm fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by civplayah
1) As you pointed out, I am dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
2) What I know about my character is that he is big, stupid, and powerful and he hates noise. My death writeup and the role PM for El Gigante that is posted publically in the Non-Mafia game Resident Evil Dark Falls which I shall quote here so you don't have to look it up:
This establishes that I squish people who annoy me :juggle2: Somehow I don't think that my character, obviously simple minded, would have an ability to stop people from making noise. If you notice, from my death writeup, the noise bothered me more than the pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by AskthepizzaguyRole PM's.
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If you are curious about the writeup just read it. I think I have already established that none of the other kills were mine. There was large figure who killed classical hero used a chainsaw. Something I clearly don't use and you can look at my conversation with Kagemusha to see that I had no part in his death either. Plus its a game full of mutants, theres obviously going to be more than one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
In addition to this, from my experience, Askthepizzaguy often ties writeups together, if one character was involved in multiple actions during the night there is a reference to that in the writeups. Take for example the Star Wars one on Night One (I believe) when the apprentice was returning from a successful kill and was ambushed by a vigilante Jedi who killed him. The apprentice bragged about his previous kill and mentioned looking forward to successfully killing another Jedi for his master.
If you want my analysis of my own death, please click on the spoil to follow:
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Conclusion: I am Evil by which of course I mean good. I had no powers past physical strength and an incredible ability to absorb damage. I am stupid and slow on the uptake, I am huge as you can see from my ability to destroy parked cars and pick up lampposts. And most importantly there is nothing to link me to anything that happened that was bad for the town.
Now if we can start looking at real live suspects, I see three possibilities:
1) Renata is not scum and someone was trying to implicate her by pointing out her day one reasoning. She is also telling the truth that she was silenced like Earthling. Probably in an attempt to further hurt her credibility and/or her ability to defend herself.
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2) Renata is scum and she is lying about being silenced. She actually was not posting because she was on vacation, but Earthling's claim gave her an easy excuse that also helps her credibility with the town. Seon was trying to act like he wanted her lynched in the hopes that he would be distrusted by virtue of being scum. However, when it appeared that that would not happen, he took back what he said and asked for everyone not to vote her because she would be upset with him for getting her lynched.
Which by the way is what mafia are supposed to do, so unless she has an awful temper I can't see why she would be so upset for him just playing his role. It also means that there is probably another scum-buddy who was responsible for starting the bandwagon on one of the other lynch options by the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
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3) Everything is unrelated.
Honestly, I think option 2 is more likely and makes a lot more sense but you can make your own decisions but this is my 2 cents.
You cannot possibly be for real here. This is me we're talking about, not some post-three-times-a-week lurker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
If you're mafia, come and get me tonight. You know you're not going to get a second chance to do it by the lynch.
There is another option I don't think you covered: Only one player has the silence ability, and one of the "victims" actually used the power on the true victim. One the other hand, the chaotics are from another dimension, and perhaps they all have this power. If not, I would hate to see their other abilities.
I'm curious why the mafia killed you, Byzantine, of all people, as I thought you were acting rather scummy on day one and would probably have been on your case sooner or later had you lived, etc. Did you say anything on day one that might have provoked anything?
I'm not chaotic. But I don't really agree with your conclusions as to who is most likely to be scum on my bandwagon or off it. First, the mafia obviously could not know that Seon was going to turn up dead. Nor, him having done so, could they have been certain that accusing me would get any traction whatsoever (or be worth the trouble, if I'd been able to talk). (I don't know who silenced me, but there's no reason to expect it would *have to* be a scum power.) Seon was either being opportunistic or panicking (you take your pick from your point of view; I know it was the former), but he was clearly surprised, either way.
Therefore, any scum votes on me would not have been pre-planned, but rather, opportunistic as well.
Second, keep in mind who I am as a player, and how YOU KNOW I am going to react if I wind up the victim of a false accusation resulting in my death. Keep in mind that alignments are revealed in this game. And now figure out what the scum are going to do. Are they going to bandwagon me? Maybe, though it's risky. Are they going to defend me, knowing the case is wrong? Very possible, depending on the player. Are they going to ignore the whole thing and just hope the town bites its own rear end without them having to stick their necks out? Also very possible.
All of that will need looking at: by me if I'm alive and/or around to do it, by other people otherwise.
What was this?
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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
That would be interesting and a better explanation of the silence. Renata and Earthling, what did you do on night one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
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Originally Posted by Renata
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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
Okay, good points, I'll be thinking about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Maybe tomorrow :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RenataWhat was this?Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
That's a silly comment. Usually only one the a 'mafia' makes to gaul townies into thinking you are playing "really hard ball" but since you are the evil one, you can easily make it without much consequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I would be willing to suggest that some of the first night kills and attempts were actually townies who had the kill ability and just decided to use it for the sake of using it. Since there are multiple factions, one evil has the statistical advantage of not killing one of his own faction on a random murder. At that particular time, they probably did not realize how common retaliation items were, if they even knew bout them at all.
So far the only self defense item to go up for vote has been from a guy who got lynched. There is no telling how many people were saved by defense items. We know of two. Most of the retaliation items did not work, but the killers are probably spooked nonetheless.
Bite me. I don't care. I got to sit through an entire day of a bad accusation without the ability to even call it out for how idiotic it was, much less defend myself, much less anything at all. I am not happy. Somehow, I still didn't get lynched. I know Seon. If the thought has not crossed his mind that he's probably lost his one and only chance to get me dead the easy way, I'll eat my hat and yours too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Not that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
I was really busy with no internet access, back now.
Pfffffffff you're always inactive after the first couple phases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Link
That was definitely the case with me, as the Killer Rabbit. I had no idea there even was a retaliation ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Ah, you injure me with your callousness. You know that I just like to make snarky comments :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
In any case, thanks for that permission to kill you. Unfortunately I will not be able to kill you because I am really, really busy being dead.
IIRC the correct name for that phenomenon is "Subotan Syndrome", whilst casting votes from an iPhone is bunvoting.Quote:
Also known as the "I am posting on my iphone", as the mafia constantly check how everything is going, while a town might not be that desperate.
You survived because everyone who voted for you was a coward and not prepared to put their credits where their mouth was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I think when you make "vigilante kill" a learnable skill (after multiple successes) then you will inevitably encourage people to attempt that skill in hopes of both unlocking traits and getting successes which get htem one step closer to learning it. People I am sure justify the chances of killing an innocent on the grounds that they will be much better served when they can perform the action for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ray
I was busy, man, and in way too many games. I'm gonna start doing just one at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
The question was did you do a night action at a certain player. The player's item may have the effect of silencing you. If you and Earthling performed an action on the same player that may have been what happened...Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
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Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
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But that's silly!Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
Ok, wow, I hadn't thought of that but it's a very good and extremely interesting theory. If we don't hear of anyone else speaking up who was silenced, (three or more people having this happen would indicate some other, one-time event to me) or this doesn't happen again tomorrow, it's definitely worth following up on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight
You people are wasting your time inquring like this. Which is a normal townie behavior. But still wasting time nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
Follow this path if you wish to get eaten by a red herring, all I am saying.
Now I know I can't do anything since I am dead and flattened by that lunatic ByzKnight, but if I were alive, I would be pointing my fingers of suspiscion at Earthling for following such a ridiculous lead.
Seon do you care to say where you think the lead points then? Seems like you already know...
Unfortunately I can't, because I am dead. I can tell you if you revive me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
No need, it's good enough I figured out the following anyway. In fact it's so good a lead that I might as well post something else, because the pieces line up much too well. Provided this had nothing to do with Seon or Byzantine's death due to Byzantine's character, whatever happened is a) probably due to a scum, and b) should be followed up on anyway because this is a bad anti-town ability that we don't want hitting other people. If some random person out there just has a silence ability they use on a bunch of people at night, then no, we're not making any progress and they can keep being scummy and hide but worth a try.
However, Byzantine's theory makes intuitive sense, adds up with the PM I got and behavior by several people in the thread.
So, since I wouldn't expect the same of her first to share night action info and we can hardly do this in private- Renata, I'll let you know I attempted an action on Major Robert Dump last night. If you did the same, that's probably our explanation, and that would definitely be some very dangerous evidence about who he is. Now, my action failed - it was an attempt to discover my hidden talent and had no effect, the thing wasn't my talent, but it could have provoked this in return.
But considering that he is, in fact, the person I'd suspect most as scum, reason enough to bring this forward. In fact, he posted some random speculation on the whole topic of silencing which usually means a scum or someone inherently interested in the matter, so in the first place I'm happy to interrogate suspicious parties for trying to silence people even if it's unrelated to the chaotics. And that's besides the fact that he obviously voted at the last minute to save Seon, and they (wifom-wise) claimed to be scum partners, and it was a terrible reason for anyone to try to lynch Renata during the past Day when it was so obvious that if anyone was guilty based on being allied with Seon, it was the Major. And now Seon's response against this hypothesis without a clue where it would go is interesting, almost as bad as Seon trying to get Renata lynched.
So - who else attempted any action against Major Robert Dump last night?
Ah, so it was you who tried to do hat to my scumbuddy Major Robert Dump, noted. Angels of Death shall descend upon you tonight, traveler from Earth :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
Also Texas has nothing to do with anything, for those of you who didn't catch on. (and I guess that does include Renata, forgot how funny that was the other day, :laugh4:) I'm just obligated to join in on any Texas criticism, basically got a t-shirt that says that after all.
The info's out there though, no use listening to dead scum Seon so I'll just be waiting on Renata and anyone else - after all, MRD claimed someone tried a vig-kill or something and that one wasn't me but does mean someone else who could answer to this hypothesis. MRD is just giving off extremely strong My-Role-PM-Doesn't-Say-What-Your-Role-PM-Says-Syndrome vibes when he suggests stuff like an 8 person mafia faction and all the prior stuff with Seon which altogether adds up.