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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Given the fact that he has admitted himself that he was a powerful mafia ally, our evidence was clearly at least partially correct, even if our guess on his role was wrong.
    So you admit that you were only guessing over Sigurd's role? If Sigurd was the hitman, the town just lynched a valuable source of information and a powerful killer who had the possibility, being the neutral role he is, to switch sides and start killing for the town.

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Do I really deserve this much suspicion over that?
    Let's see: eliminating somebody who knew the identity of several Dons and was able to backstab them and turn pro-town.

    The answer is : Yes, you deserve alot of suspicion.

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Also, it is utterly absurd to say that I am a Don. Here are ALL of my night actions, from the beginning:

    N1: Inconclusive 'pevergreen' protection group on Pannonian (I think, PMs long deleted, don't remember the participants. Sasaki can confirm this one)
    N2: Failed hit on taka with GH, Northnovas, and gibson. Failed only due to taka's luck.
    N3: Failed protection of Glenn with Louis, Husar, and Leet Eriksson. Matter of record.
    N4: Inconclusive protection group on someone I can't remember. PMs deleted and the backup download is on my work computer (don't tell my boss). I will post the N4 action tomorrow when I get to work, if it's really that crucial.
    N5: Failed hit on Tran. Failed because one member did not get their order PM in on time.
    N6: Successful hit on Factionheir.
    N7: Successful hit on Northnovas.
    N8: Successful hit on Tran.
    If you read the write-ups for N2, N6, N7, and N8, there is no way I could have done those if I was a Don. Therefore, if I am a Don, I must be lying about participating in those hits. It should therefore be easy for someone to come forward and say that I wasn't there, because the participants would know that I wasn't with them. Please, explain to me again how I can be a Don.
    You managed to convince the townies throughout the whole game, pretending to be the inexperienced player. You're a smart guy TinCow and the people who are playing KOTR with you hold you in high regard. I for one am not willing to believe that you do not understand the rules very well.

    Your "prove" proves nothing. Absolutely nothing. Any mafia can participate in protection groups. Any mafia can participate in a vig squad. The only thing you have to do to ensure that people will not read the vig hit as a mafia kill, is telling the host that the hit is not a family sanctioned kill, even though a mafioso is participating.

    You'll have to do better then that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haudegen
    On what do you base your assumption? From Seamus´s description it seems that dons can only kill if their families are dead.
    When TinCow made that claim before, I thought naught of it. Let's say one of my previous clients pointed out that this was not the case.
    I am bound by the Hitman/client vow of silence and can not reveal too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    I am bound by the Hitman/client vow of silence and can not reveal too much.
    Not to mention the fact that you are dead...
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    Not to mention the fact that you are dead...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    When TinCow made that claim before, I thought naught of it. Let's say one of my previous clients pointed out that this was not the case.
    I am bound by the Hitman/client vow of silence and can not reveal too much.
    Hmm, hmm, hmm. Well let´s assume you are right, what would that mean for any investigations on the alleged Don? Would he still be shown as innocent after participating in a vig kill?

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    I miss Redleg's executions. They were so much more imaginative, with one victim being keel-hauled and another blown from a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rules
    A Don normally cannot kill opponents during a “night” phase, and must work through others. Normally, however, they appear as “innocent” if investigated by a detective or made, so they can camouflage themselves well. Even the FBI detective is unlikely to spot them. If the Don has lost all the other members of her/his family, they may perform 1 kill per “night” phase. However, subsequent to any such killing they will be identified as “guilty” if investigated by a detective, and “criminal” if investigated by a made.
    A Don can kill alone if all his family members are dead. If they kill, they will be "guilty". The rules don't tell us what the result will be on a Don who participated in a vig squad. I think we can safely assume that he will turn out to be "guilty" as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rules
    A townie has no special abilities – at least at the start. Most Townies will appear as “innocent” if investigated by a detective, though 1 in 6-8 will appear “criminal” despite their innocence. If investigated by a Made, most will appear “innocent” though 1-2 in 6 will appear “unclear.” Townies may band together to kill one target per night phase, but must do so in groups of 4. If this strategy is chosen, you will appear “guilty/criminal” in subsequent investigations. Townies who have successfully accomplished 2 murders will all change roles to Wise Guy(Gal). Townies may also band together in groups of 3 to provide protection to one Townie (not in their group), functioning as a Doctor. 2 successful protections (attacked, did not die) allow them to select one of their group as a full Doctor. Each subsequent successful protection will result in another member being promoted.
    A townie who kills in a vig squad, will also be "guilty" when investigated.

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    N6: Successful hit on Factionheir.
    N7: Successful hit on Northnovas.
    N8: Successful hit on Tran.
    2 succesful murders = townie is automatically promoted to Wiseguy, ergo, if TinCows' claim that he started the game as a townie is genuine (is it? ), he should be a Wiseguy now. A guilty one. And all townies who participated in those vig squads with him, should be Wiseguys as well now.

    By participating in succesful vig squads as a "townie", TinCow conveniently made all investigation results on him useless.

    At best TinCow is a Wiseguy, leader of a significant group of Wiseguys who have been working together for a long while now, on a killing spree, killing people he "believes" to be guilty, at worst he's a Don.

    EDIT: It won't be too long before TinCow will be promoted to Made Gangster (well, if he isn't a Don that is). Same goes for all townies who have been working with him the last three or four nights. All of this is based on reading the rules combined with TinCow's claims. CR's argument "it's false because it is said by Andres who is confirmed scum" doesn't make much sense. You guys really need to start paying attention to TinCow, his group of "townies" and Crazed Rabbit.
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    A Don can kill alone if all his family members are dead. If they kill, they will be "guilty". The rules don't tell us what the result will be on a Don who participated in a vig squad. I think we can safely assume that he will turn out to be "guilty" as well.
    That´s what I would have guessed too. However I´d be really surprised if some detective would find an "innocent" result on him ...

    At best TinCow is a Wiseguy, on a killing spree, killing people he "believes" to be guilty, at worst he's a Don.
    Well, killing FactionHeir turned out to be a good start. We´ll see tonight, what Seamus tells us about NorthNovas. But, I´m rather sure that he was mafia too.

    It seems to me that TC has been acting for the town. It´s obvious that we can´t rule out the possibility that he is a don (or a made or a luca ...) in disguise. But TC´s actions speak in his favor at the moment, IMHO. We should watch him closely like we should watch almost anyone closely.




    Wasn´t there a rumor that Don´s can not effectively participate in protection groups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haudegen
    Well, killing FactionHeir turned out to be a good start. We´ll see tonight, what Seamus tells us about NorthNovas. But, I´m rather sure that he was mafia too.
    Always keep all options open.

    Killing mafiosi can mean two things: a) townie taking out mafia; b) mafia pretending to be town and in the process eliminating competition (also note that in the process, TinCow is also creating new scum that he can backstab afterwards, to stick to his role of being the helpful townie taking out scum.)

    When the play field is down to less then 20 or 15 players, TinCow's (new?)mafia family will be able to take out the rest of you townspeople.

    *** Now, why didn't I think about that strategy before I screwed up by trusting Louis ***
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    So you admit that you were only guessing over Sigurd's role?
    I admitted that approximately 2 days ago, it is not a secret or a revelation. Again, apparently no one reads my posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    EDIT: It won't be too long before TinCow will be promoted to Made Gangster (well, if he isn't a Don that is). Same goes for all townies who have been working with him the last three or four nights. All of this is based on reading the rules combined with TinCow's claims.
    Maybe this will make you feel better:

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    If I somehow survive long enough to make 3 more kills, do I have to become Made? I want to stay on the town side for the rest of the game and don't want to accidentally wind up mafia just because I participated in one too many vigilante squads.
    You may refuse promotion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Maybe this will make you feel better:

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    If I somehow survive long enough to make 3 more kills, do I have to become Made? I want to stay on the town side for the rest of the game and don't want to accidentally wind up mafia just because I participated in one too many vigilante squads.
    You may refuse promotion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh in the Rules thread
    Such quotations are permitted in Capo - II, provided that no screenshots are used and that none of the restricted information (noted in red on your role PMs) from your role PMs is discussed. Please remember that our creative group might also be fabricating this sort of thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh in the Rules thread
    You are free to fabricate, connive, or otherwise finesse your way to success.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Feel free to quote from the public portion of my Role PM’s to you or to fabricate as you see fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haudegen
    Hmm, hmm, hmm. Well let´s assume you are right, what would that mean for any investigations on the alleged Don? Would he still be shown as innocent after participating in a vig kill?
    My bet is on the Don being innocent the days he don't participate in vigilante groups.
    Would TinCow let a detective test this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    My bet is on the Don being innocent the days he don't participate in vigilante groups.
    The thing is, we don't know it. But since a Don who kills alone will be "guilty" on investigation, he's most likely to be "guilty" when having participated in a townie vig squad.

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Would TinCow let a detective test this?
    And if the result is "guilty", we'll have to assume he's innocent?

    Like I said, due to his participation in several succesfull vig squads, any investigation result on TinCow will be completely and utterly useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    Like I said, due to his participation in several succesfull vig squads, any investigation result on TinCow will be completely and utterly useless.
    Not quite. If he turns out to be "innocent" in spite of his various vig kills, I for one would be convinced that he is a don.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haudegen
    Not quite. If he turns out to be "innocent" in spite of his various vig kills, I for one would be convinced that he is a don.
    And who is going to provide us the investigation results, eh?

    TinCow and CR who are clearly on the same team?

    Did Jimbob (the only one who is truly confirmed to be pro-town) see a detective/FBI/pro-town role pm?

    Maybe he should post it/them (leaving the name(s) of those claiming those roles out of it off course), at least partially, so that the town is able to judge if those reveals were/are genuine or not.

    Or a detective who is still alive can also reveal him/herself and he or she can confirm the role claims (or tell us that they are false).

    After all, if TinCow and CR have been telling the truth, they should have quite a few doctors or surgeons by now, able to protect a publicly revealing detective.

    Or are you going to keep trusting liars (they even admitted that they have been lying, CR himself even insisted on lynching all liars at the beginning of this game!) who refer to "detective" results?
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    I can't find where Crazed Rabbit said 'lynch all liars' before, so don't take my word for it. Might've been thinking of someone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    I can't find where Crazed Rabbit said 'lynch all liars' before, so don't take my word for it. Might've been thinking of someone else
    You disappoint me, Prole

    All those people telling lies. I can't take this much longer.

    Am I the only honest player left in this game?

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    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres

    All those people telling lies. I can't take this much longer.
    Frankly, I worry more about the 20 or so silent types, half of whom probably have mafia roles. All they have to do is lay low 3 or 4 more day-night cycles, then pop up to decimate the remaining town population.

    Liars will eventually be "outted".
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    Frankly, I worry more about the 20 or so silent types, half of whom probably have mafia roles. All they have to do is lay low 3 or 4 more day-night cycles, then pop up to decimate the remaining town population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    Frankly, I worry more about the 20 or so silent types, half of whom probably have mafia roles. All they have to do is lay low 3 or 4 more day-night cycles, then pop up to decimate the remaining town population.

    Liars will eventually be "outted".
    Future games may have to disclose which players have sent in action PMs, so that lurkers may be flushed out. Mafia games have always had a problem with inactives, and this is even more important in Capo where one may lurk and yet be active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    Future games may have to disclose which players have sent in action PMs, so that lurkers may be flushed out. Mafia games have always had a problem with inactives, and this is even more important in Capo where one may lurk and yet be active.
    Which the host has always deemed an acceptable mode of play for Capo. Not that I particularly enjoy adding to your collective sense of ambiguity and frustration.



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    Wow. Didn´t know you handled it that way, Seamus.

    Now I see the people on the inactive list in a different light.

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    BKS is a confirmed wiseguy, isn't he? Presumably affiliated by this stage of the game.
    I also remember reading somewhere that gibson is a made gangster for one of the families?

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    Ninght Nine is concluded. Writeup to follow.
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    This is main thread post #

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    Streaming the view from the frontline
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    I can't turn away from the glaring
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    Ichigo had just stuffed the last half of his recently purchased hotdog into his mouth in one huge bite when the gunmen popped up from their hides across the street. Both gunners were well positioned – each to one side and angled so that Ichigo was in a crossfire and that any move away from the cart would involve crossing 20 feet of open pavement covered by one of the gunmen.

    Up popped the first gunman, incongruously dressed in a hooded cape with tall pointed ears on the hood/mask
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    Ichigo felt the hairs on his neck raise when he remembered that the cart was parked directly in front of a narrow dark alley between two buildings…a third perfect hide. He gulped as a second short burst from each gunman announced that he was still very much in the crossfire, and then he looked into the alley, peering into the shadows for yet a third “caped crusader.”

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    He didn’t ponder this for long, though the way things had been going he wouldn’t have been entirely surprised to find Vicky Vail waiting for him in the alley with a bazooka. Ichigo half slid/half duck-walked into the mouth of the alley – the only avenue not covered by the gunmen. He had no trouble leaving the scene.

    Both Batmen looked pointedly at one another when Ichigo’s departure was not met by gunfire, and then both of them quit the scene as well. Whether they used radar to navigate the dark streets of Fatlington was never revealed.


    Charge’s apartment looked like some kind of fortress. Iron grilles barred the windows, interior shutters of wood backed by steel could be swung to cover those windows, the door was reinforce with metal bands and locked at 4 points, and all of the exterior walls had been backed by neatly stacked sand-bags. Anything less than an M4 Sherman wasn’t likely to force its way in. He was as safe as a Fatlington committee member could be – unfortunately, that wasn’t a very high benchmark.

    The hit team moved with a reasonably quick efficiency. One quickly climbed the utility pole out front and disconnected both the power and the building’s phone cable. Two others broke into the basement to start up a generator they brought with them. Another made a purposefully botched effort at breaching the door while yet another used a silenced rifle to take pot-shots at Charge’s windows.

    Charge slammed the shutters on all three windows, slid the armoire in front of the door and chocked its wheels, checked his weapons to be safe, and sat back to laugh at their puny efforts to kill him. After a time, with only a few pings/splinters from the window shutters, he found himself growing listless. This feeling grew until, despite the occasional shots at his windows, he fell fast asleep.

    The basement crew kept the generator running for more than an hour. Then they shut off the generator, snaked the exhaust tubing back down the air vent from Charge’s apartment, and removed their equipment and themselves.

    Skin flushed in a pleasant pink glow, Charge should have been deader than a brick when Fermanagh’s “you must attend the meeting team” broke down his door to fetch him for the Mid-morning meeting at the Convention Center. Instead they found him unconscious but not seriously harmed on the floor of the empty – but well ventilated – apartment immediately below his. Apparently, unknown to Charge or anyone else, termites had been at the flooring of his apartment and the floor had chosen the brief timeframe after he’d passed out but before he’d expired to collapse, spilling him into the fresher air below. The ventilation had been sufficient to prevent the carbon monoxide seeping down into the second apartment from killing him.

    Of course, Fermanagh’s bright lights figured out exactly none of what had happened. Though they noticed a few shots into all the shutters and some crowbar damage at the apartment door, nothing had penetrated Charge’s defenses. They shrugged and took him to the meeting.



    Haudegen was on his guard these days, so when the kid who was tossing up his baseball and catching it underneath the streetlight turned and tossed the ball to Haudegen, he suppressed his reflexes and ducked behind one of the parked cars while pulling his weapon.

    The kid screamed and ran, but Haudegen ignored him, focusing his attention on the fellow in the trenchcoat just behind the next apartment building stoop. That one was drawing a weapon. Haudegen shifted to his left to put the roof of the car between him and the shooter without having to crouch and slow down his mobility. He’d maneuvered carefully…right where his killers wanted him. Checkmate.

    Two long muzzle flashes lanced from the back of a canvas topped delivery truck, the heavy reports of the weapon arriving only a split second after the rounds themselves. Both bullets struck Haudegen squarely, hammering themselves into large mushrooms on the front of his body armor. Unfortunately for Haudegen, he’d been shot from behind. Ma Deuce had spoken, and her word was very, very final.

    A single red rose was found on Haudegen’s shattered body
    .


    Proletariat wasn’t out to win friends and influence people. Her walk home tonight would not likely get her elected Miss Congeniality either. People shied from her path or found a reason to go back into the store they’d just exited rather than cross her path. This might have been a result of the tense scowl on her otherwise alluring face, but it was more probably a reaction to the fact that she was walking with her handgun drawn and held in a half-raised position. It wouldn’t do, in Prole’s view, to rely solely “on the kindness of strangers.”

    When the attack came, she still hesitated a second before firing. She’d feared a balloon of some sort – walking by a child’s party at some restaurant was getting her nervous for Heaven’s sake – but never really expected that the attack would be from someone wearing a high-collared black coat and wielding a huge two-handed sword.

    Proletariat ducked the first swipe of the ashandarei and broke left to widen the distance between them. The swordsman spun on his heel and pulled back for another stroke
    .

    <>

    Prole’, off balance, fired as rapidly as she could pull the trigger. She hit her target twice but failed to punch through the body armor that he – like just about everyone – was wearing. By firing off balance, she managed to knock herself off her own feet, but this did serve to put her under the next swipe of that deadly blade. Supine, she would be at the mercy of the next blow – but already there were sirens blaring and the footsteps of some of Fatlington’s beat cops announced that there would be no time for that final killing stroke.

    The swordsman cursed under his breath and faded into the shadows before the police could apprehend him. If only an accomplice had materialized to divide her fire or to delay the police
    ….


    Morning Meeting, Day 10

    “…the police are doing everything we can to hold a lid on this madhouse. We’ve had no knew outbreaks, so we don’t have any worries on that score, but I simply don’t have the patrol power to interdict the violence of the mafia. You’ve GOT to bring this to a conclusion.”

    Fermanagh paused.

    “I also regret having to notify you of the deaths of Alexander the Pretty Good, Big King Sanctaphrax, and Roadkill as they were being driven here this morning. Some idiot tourist ran a light and well….I’m sorry for those of you who were close with any of them.”

    “Our investigations following the deaths of committee members have turned up the following. Husar was, at least at the outset of this, an innocent townie. We’ve turned up mixed leads as to his acitivities since the committee formed, but nothing conclusive. Vigilantes apparently did us a favor with NorthNovas, who was a made member of one of the mafia families and no loss to Fatlington. We’ve confirmed the same about Dutch_Guy, who we were able to identify as a Mafia Luca, though we weren’t able to provide independent corroboration as to which family. Keep up the good work!”

    JimBob went briefly through the procedures and adjourned the meeting until late afternoon.


    OOC

    1. Lynch Voting for Day 10 will conclude at 1600 EST, 2-28-8 (2100 GMT).
    2. Current List of Players:

    Still Alive: (32) Brave Sir Robin, Caeser the III, Caius, Charge, CountArach, Cowhead418, Craterus, Crazed Rabbit, Draco Leman, Elite Ferret, gibsonsg91921, Hiji, Ichigo, Ironside, JimBob, Joe Monks, Jubal_Barca, Kagemusha, KukriKhan, Leet Erikson, LittleGrizzly, Myrrdraal, norwegian nerd, Proletariat, Sasaki Kojiro, scottishranger, shlin28, TinCow, TruePraetorian, Twilightblade, Warluster, Xehh II.

    Attacked: (32) Andres (N2, N3), Beefy187 (N1), Brave Sir Robin (N7), Caius (N3), Charge (N9), Craterus (N6), Crazed Rabbit (N6), Cowhead418 (N2), Evil_Maniac from Mars (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N2, N3), Glenn (N1, N2), Ichigo (N9), Kagemusha (N6), Proletariat (N4, N4, N5, N6, N7, N8, N9), Sasaki Kojiro (N5, N7), taka (N2), Tran (N5, N7, N8), TinCow (N7), Twilightblade (N4, N5), Xdeathfire (N1)

    Murdered: (27) Drisos (N1), Lord Winter (N2), Beefy187 (N3), Glenn (N3), Pannonian (N3), taka (N3), The Stranger (N3), Zorg (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N4), Kommodus (N4), Moros (N4), Xiahou (N4), Chimpyang (N5), Kamikhaan (N5), Motep (N5), Rythmic, (N5), woad&fangs (N5), ajaxfetish (N6), FactionHeir (N6), Lt. Pinard (N6), Louis VI the Fat (N6), Husar (N7), NorthNovas (N7), Makanyane (N8), Sarathos (N8), Tran (N8), Haudegen (N9)

    Lynched: (9) pevergreen (D2), Hannibalbarca (D3), Tiberius of the Drake (D3), Omanes Alexandrapolites (D4), Andres (D5), Xdeathfire (D6), Dutch_guy (D7), Sigurd Fafnesbane (D8), Hiji (D9)

    Removed from Play: (11) Fahad I (D4), Killfr3nzy (D4), x-dANGEr (D4), Sapi (N4), Warmaster Horus (N5), Rob_the_Celt (N5), molonthegreat (N5), johnhughthom (D8), Alexander the Pretty Good (N9), Big King Sanctaphrax (N9), Roadkill (N9)

    3. That’s 9 Executions and 59 murder attempts so far – what a wonderful town Fatlington is!
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  27. #2637

    Default Re: Capo de Tutti Capi - II

    Interesting.

    Kill on Ichigo failed because one person went missing.

    Kill on charge failed because he got lucky.

    Haudegen killed by mafia.

    Prole apparently not protected, but only one attacker showed up.


    I say we lynch charge. Vote:Charge

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    I organized the hit on Ichigo with the following PM:

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    To: Haudegen ; CountArach ;
    CC: Seamus Fermanagh ;

    Yet another night for our merry band of wiseguy vigilantes. Since Hiji is now dead, we will keep working down the list of early game guilty/criminal results. Tonight it will be Ichigo, who was found unclear on Night 2 and guilty on Night 5. The deaths on Night 5 were Chimpyang, Kamikhaan, Motep, Rythmic, and woad&fangs. As we all know, Motep was killed by the Stracchi and woad&fangs was killed by Sigurd. That leaves Chimpyang, Kamikhaan, and Rythmic. Chimpyang and Kamikhaan were killed by mafia, as shown by the calling cards left on the bodies. Rythmic was killed by two people, so they must have been Made/Lucas. Therefore, Ichigo must be mafia.

    Please submit the following orders:

    TinCow, Haudegen, and CountArach will kill Ichigo.
    Seamus, please consider this my personal N9 order PM. Also, if you're feeling up for an amusing write-up, I would like to suggest a combination of Batman and Spartacus. The three of us jumping around in tights would be nice, followed by multiple claims of "I'm Batman!" and "No, I'M Batman!" A little levity always makes murder easier.
    Haudegen replied with the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by Haudegen
    To Seamus
    CC TinCow, CountArach


    TinCow, Haudegen, and CountArach will kill Ichigo.
    CA replied with the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach
    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach
    I will work with TinCow and Haudegen to kill Ichigo. The Batman idea that TinCow said seems good to me.
    That's forwarded from what I sent to Seamus.
    Clearly, one of the three of us did not show up. Since Haudegen was himself targeted for a hit, it seems blatantly obvious that he was not the person at fault. Therefore either CountArach or I are lying about participating in the hit, clearly in collusion with the Rose mafia family. This also suggests that Ichigo is from the Rose mafia family.

    I suggest that the townies make up their minds about which of us is guilty and hang one of us immediately. To do otherwise will leave a mafia plant inside the town group.
    Last edited by TinCow; 02-27-2008 at 21:08.


  29. #2639

    Default Re: Capo de Tutti Capi - II

    vote: gibson

    He's been inactive for most of the game but has yet to be killed. This suggests he has an important role, and there was a detective result (is this one questionable too, JimBob/Cow?) that showed him to be mafia.

  30. #2640

    Default Re: Capo de Tutti Capi - II

    I suggest that the townies make up their minds about which of us is guilty and hang one of us immediately. To do otherwise will leave a mafia plant inside the town group.
    This is bizarre.

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