Unvote:khaan
Vote:Ichigo
If AP suicided, that was because he has a role. He could be another killer or a puritan. Come and defend yourself, if you are one of them!
Unvote:khaan
Vote:Ichigo
If AP suicided, that was because he has a role. He could be another killer or a puritan. Come and defend yourself, if you are one of them!
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." - Issac Newton
If Andres and Craterus are innocent, why didn't the mafia kill them? GH, Sigurd, Cronos, EF and Caius all got enough attention on themselves, so the mafia would like to keep them alive as lynch baits. So if the mafia is not Andres or Craterus, they will kill Andres and Craterus, as they are confirmed innocents due to them joining late. However, these two are still alive, so therefore, if you are following my (questionable) logic, one of them must be mafiaThis means the remaining mafiosi/serial killer (if there are any) are found with the following players:
Andres - entered late.
Craterus - entered late
makaikhaan
Ichigo - took phyros' role.
and the other 5 players have these roles:
Caius - prostitute
Elite Ferret - client
GH - client
Sigurd - prostitute
Cronos - prostitute
Don't lynch makaikhaan yet, I have a feeling he may not be the last killer.
shlin, Andres and I have been kept alive for that exact reason. People have tried to turn our 'lateness' into a sign of guilt numerous times since the start of the game. We're still suspects, obviously.
Unvote:Ichigo
What about Cronos?
Last edited by Caius; 07-21-2008 at 23:36.
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
Gar...
unvote: EliteFerret
Vote: Craterus
Somehow I feel like Craterus, now in retrospect, was too cautious in his treatment of me. Yes I know he came late, but its more than possible that there were originally 2 puritans, and Craterus was the third.
Tally(someone else might want to confirm this, this was a monster to try to compile)
makaikhaan- 2( Chronos, Ichigo)
Craterus- 1(Khaan)
Sigurd- 1(Craterus)
Not Voting- (Andres, Sigurd Fafnesbane, GeneralHankerchief, Caius, EliteFerret)
I must say, I never envisioned a scenario in which Andres, Sigurd, and GH all three be not voting in a round.
Folks! We got a lot of people not voting right now, over half.
Last edited by seireikhaan; 07-22-2008 at 04:32.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Too cautious? A detective's a detective. Apparently.
Seeing as Sigurd is probably innocent, I'll unvote: Sigurd, vote:makaikhaan.
I'm not entirely convinced by the reveal, it still doesn't add up and you're probably a mafia target by now anyway (assuming you're not the mafia we're looking for).
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Last edited by Andres; 07-22-2008 at 11:58.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
The relative silence from the remaining players are worrying.
The town, I believe has the upper hand.
There are probably only one killer left and if we get the lynch right we will win.
I was so set in my mind that the last one was makaikhaan, that I have problems changing this opinion.
But if it is not the khaan, then who is it?
If I am interpreting phyros' post correctly we can strike Ichigo from our suspect list.
This leaves only
khaan
Andres
Craterus
If this is true, I can't see how they can win. We will definitely lynch one of them and kill one next night and then lynch the last. There are enough of us to do this.
I don't have the intuition that the ladies I am playing have, but for now I choose to believe khaan.
vote:Craterus
You have called for my input in this game before Andres, I am now calling you. What do you have to say?
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Tally:
Craterus : 3 (Ichigo, makaikhaan, Sigurd)
makaikhaan : 2 (Craterus, Cronos)
not voting : 4 (Andres, Caius, EF, GH)
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GeneralHankerchief is on a holiday, I believe (he said so in the Throne Room).
I'm really confused about Caius' 'role claim' and after the exchange between makaikhaan and CR, I really don't know who to believe.
First suspect: gut says: Craterus might be mafia.
Reasons:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
My second suspect is makaikhaan. CR, who is most probably innocent, counterclaimed makaikhaan's claim.
I've gone over 'khaan's posts and here's my analysis:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
'khaan's whole reveal stinks + CR, confirmed innocent, says 'khaan lies <-> Craterus sounds more scummy to me.
For now, I Vote : makaikhaan.
Might change to Craterus though.
Last edited by Andres; 07-22-2008 at 13:56.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
How did I not explain my vote change, Andres? If Sigurd, as he claimed, and his group attempted to kill a prostitute, it very well could have screwed with my investigation results, as they committed an action which to any observer, would seem to be anti-town. CR's innocence and backing of Sigurd would seem to indicate this is accurate. Another way to explain, perhaps: in my game, I slated it so that anyone who killed would appear as guilty; even though there was a pro-town vigilante role, as well as non-mafia independent roles. This seems to have worked in a similar manner. Insisting on lynching Sigurd is not only now pointless, but counterproductive to the town's efforts. You, of all people, Andres, should realize that when someone who is confirmed innocent can vouch for him.
As for the timing; there wasn't a whole lot to be helped by it. There was, they way things were going, just under a 1 in 5 chance I could die, and I wanted to be able to at least get some kind of confirmation one way or the other on Sigurd before I died. Hence why I informed GH to reveal, to hopefully give me at least the extra night.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Ah, I provoked an answer.
So, we can all see that you are online now. It won't take you much longer then 5 minutes to post your exact role pm and to quote your 4 investigation results, so please do so, as proof of your innocence...
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
An answer?! Have you SEEN the last page or two? Its not like I'm hiding.
My exact Role pm? You can see it clearly in GH's previous post, I gave the whole thing to him. Anyone here could post it and claim it if they had wanted. That is a totally irrelevant question to pose, which you of all people should realize by now. Want results? Here they are:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Not like that does a whole lot...Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
And now I suppose this will make me incredibly scummy because I caved to your demands and got the 5 minutes exactly...
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
While you are busy posting your genuine, non faked, quotes, I'll continue...
a)Now, 'khaan, tell me, you say Sigurd turned out to be guilty after the second investigation. The detective role pm doesn't leave room for interpretation now, does it?Originally Posted by GH's role pm as posted by himself, 'khaan claims it is actually HIS role pm
Your explanation is not satisfying.
b) Why the whole GH reveal-show? Why not lynching Sigurd for good measure and in the meanwhile investigate another target to get more information? That would have been a better pro-town tactic, don't you agree? Sigurd would have revealed if he were powerful pro-town...
c) I assume your quotes will be up when this is getting posted...
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
A) Yes, Andres, evidently. Tell me, if you witnessed someone attempt to murder one of your neigbors, would you think it quite evident that that person was indeed not pro-neighbor? Hmm?
B) I'm NOT explaining this again. I've explained it at least 3 times by now, and if you aren't getting it or refuse to accept the logic we were using, then tough.
C) Indeedly they are.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Well, if you wouldn't have been in a hurry, you would have taken the time to also post your role pm...
'khaan, you have to admit that your 'reveal' stinks.
And you have proven yourself to be a splendid mafia player in the past, so...
I am going to stick to my vote for the reasons stated before and I am sooo much hoping that I am not voting the detective now...
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
*** shakes fist at the mafia gods ***
Damn you 'khaan. If you turn out to be mafia in this game, I will never, ever believe you again!
Unvote : makaikhaan; Vote : Sigurd
Last edited by Andres; 07-22-2008 at 14:27.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
Wow, where to start?
I didn't blindly follow anything. I said that his detective results, however true or fake they may be, corraborate with my own reasons for suspecting Sigurd. At that point, he was the best lynch. The case has now changed but that can hardly be used against me.
At that point, I don't think anyone else had claimed to be detective. Why not believe makaikhaan? We've still got another lynch if the kills don't stop tonight. I kept the vote for Sigurd because I forgot to change it. Or maybe he was still the best lynch. It depends on my post's relation to the following event:
CR, Caius, Elite Ferret and Cronos have all been linked to Sigurd without any shouts of protest. He's clearly innocent. Why carry on the vote when he has 4 (surely more than can be mafia) backing him up.
Of course, now the vote for khaan is as much about self-preservation. Yes, I know, mafia action! But at this stage, I'm thinking you guys might need the extra vote in your favour.
Well, we can discuss 'khaan's reveal ad eternitatem, but at a certain point, one has to take a decision. I decided to give 'khaan the benefit of the doubt and thus I believe he is the detective. The detective has a guilty on Sigurd. Thus far, that's the best reason I've seen so far to vote someone
My vote stays where it is.
Andres is our Lord and Master and could strike us down with thunderbolts or beer cans at any time. ~Askthepizzaguy
Ja mata, TosaInu
A decision that leaves me conveniently for the lynch
However, interesting to note that only Caius has spoken up for Sigurd so far, the rest of his allies having yet to make an appearance. And Caius tried to fake a role PM to get khaan lynched. Interesting...
Although this does nothing to improve my own situation, there could be a partnership there between Sigurd and Caius, will have to await CR or Cronos and see what they say.
unvote: khaan, vote: Sigurd
No, no, no ... You shouldn't vote me. Don't lose focus now.
I am a prostitute and my partners are/were Caius and Crazed Rabbit.
I have compared notes with Cronos Impera and he has the exact same role as I have.
His partners were shlin28 and TevashSzat.
They will all confirm this. Caius and CR will vouch for me and shlin and Tevash will vouch for Cronos.
I can vouch for Cronos and he can for me.
I have been notified by Omanes that Elite Ferret is a client and Cronos have been notified that GH is a client.
This is the information I have. That leaves only you Andres, Craterus, makaikhaan and Ichigo as unknown.
Ichigo is probably a client too if we interpret phyros' statements correctly.
I can't with the confidence that CR has say that khaan is lying. In this game, the town has great power, and a detective role on top of it smacks of unfairness. That is unless his results can be ambiguous. And that is probably the case here. Yes I did send in orders to kill another innocent player and it was only CR's inactivity/time zone trouble that foiled it.
So you see, the killer of shlin must be one of the following:
Andres, Craterus or makaikhaan.
Right now I bet on the Craterus horse.
Last edited by Sigurd; 07-22-2008 at 16:10.
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