[Unit experience] What are the effects?

[QuintusSertorius]

Another random question, what's the difference between levels of discipline? As in between a unit with "normal" discipline and "disciplined" discipline? What's the game impact?

[Atraphoenix]

Another random question, what's the difference between levels of discipline? As in between a unit with "normal" discipline and "disciplined" discipline? What's the game impact?

Indisicplined soldiers routs easily while disciplined ones nearly fight to death.

[FriendlyFire]

Indisicplined soldiers routs easily while disciplined ones nearly fight to death.

Surely that's morale, not discipline?

I've noticed that levy hoplites take longer to change formation than professional hoplites. I click-and-drag unit layouts a lot, so individual soldiers have to rearrange themselves within the formation. I always thought that this was an effect of discipline - how quickly and effectively a unit can obey new orders. Levy hoplites will mill around forever, whereas professionals nearly always get into formation before the enemy charge hits

[Atraphoenix]

Surely that's morale, not discipline?

I've noticed that levy hoplites take longer to change formation than professional hoplites. I click-and-drag unit layouts a lot, so individual soldiers have to rearrange themselves within the formation. I always thought that this was an effect of discipline - how quickly and effectively a unit can obey new orders. Levy hoplites will mill around forever, whereas professionals nearly always get into formation before the enemy charge hits

When I win a battle against phalanx argies are always the last men on the battlefield.
do not forget disciplines soldiers are not affected as levies when general falls.

[rotten]

I think that has to do with how close they stay in formation, being able to then project more weight onto a smaller number of enemies or some such noise.

As for experience chevrons, I'm pretty sure they increase the Attack rating of all weapons and the Skill defense rating. I do not think they increase morale, that would be very imbalanced.

Weapon upgrades increase the attack rating for melee weapons only, and armor upgrades increase the armor defense rating.

[vollorix]

AFAIK: disciplined units regain their morale faster.

edit: the tight of formation depends on two things - training level ( highly_trained = the best ) and spacing in the edu ( the smaller the number, like 0.7 with some elite units, the tighter ).

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Training relates to how a unit lines up. For example, hoplites would be trained, falxman untrained. In Vanilla, peasant was also a level for, aptly enough, peasants and units like wardogs and gladiators.

Discipline is how well a unit reacts to morale shocks such as, scary units, fire attacks, compromised flanks, and units emerging from hiding as well as general attrition through melee.

Edit: There may also be a highly trained level which would probably be applicable to hoplites, phalangites, and other units that rely on keeping formation who are professionals. I haven't checked the edu lately.

[QuintusSertorius]

Edit: There may also be a highly trained level which would probably be applicable to hoplites, phalangites, and other units that rely on keeping formation who are professionals. I haven't checked the edu lately.

There is, you can see it on the Unit List. Untrained, trained, highly_trained are the three levels.

[Ludens]

The Ludus Magna contains most of the old threads for research into the R:TW engine. I don't think we ever worked out exactly what the unit attributes (such as "disciplined") did, though.

[Rahwana]

The Ludus Magna contains most of the old threads for research into the R:TW engine. I don't think we ever worked out exactly what the unit attributes (such as "disciplined") did, though.

from EDU guide made by Aradan:
"disciplined" units morale won't be affected by nearby routing units, while "normal" and "impertuous" units will lose a point when nearby allies rout. "low" discipline unit lost in bigger parts. (or disciplined units affected in smaller margin, a bit forgot since I've seen disciplined units got chain routs)

And "Disciplined" units regain morale faster, while another got at longer time.

Unit training affect the "tidyness" of the formation, and maybe responsiveness to movement location

[Ludens]