NRA is too radical

[Louis VI the Fat]

Hmm, maybe we ought to look at Switzerland. Most of the USA is due to gang violence, and conflicts over drugs. Stay out of that and the likelihood is significantly lower.

And hey, doesn't Northern Ireland have the same gun laws as England?

Also, IIRC roughly four times as many people die in car accidents in the USA

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Not gonna respond, Louis?

In Switzerland, gun ownership is very much tied to being part of a well-regulated militia, necessary to the security of a free state etc etc.

A true citizen militia, the members of which bear arms - this is the Swiss understanding of the traditional republican right of citizens to bear arms. And not the modern interpretation of the 2nd that is best summed up as 'all the rights, none of the responsibilities'.

I claim the difference between Swizerland and America, in irresponsible gun use and the far higher US homicide rate, is owing to the difference in the responsibilities citizens are willing to accept for the right to be an arms bearing citizen, in particular, the demand to be part of a well-regulated militia in actual fact.


Gaelic discussed Northern Ireland already.


Car accidents are a tragedy. But they can hardly serve to justify another injustice. Also, gun ownership correlates with causing traffic accidents. People with guns cause far more traffic deaths than people without guns.