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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    Im afraid there is quite primitive human behavior behind it. The word is power. The dream of united powerful European federal state. A superpower both economically and militaritically. The wish that we would be important and strong and others would have to take us seriously. I am afraid that self pity, hunger of power and influence might be the key things behind the any means necessary take on integration. The thing is that i dont believe it is not Nations like Germany and France that grave for such, as the political support is not there, but individuals.In other words politicians who want to rule a super power. no matter what. I doubt any of them would admit it, maybe even to themselves, but that is my opinion about it.
    but our systems of representative democracy are complex beasts, deliberately so with many checks and balances to prevent just such powerhungry individual from grasping untrammelled power, or wielding unconstrained influence, surely it cannot be so simple? i smell ideology at work; the misanthropic fear of the transnational progressives for whom humanity is but a morass of base creatures subject to primitive animal instincts, and thus in need of a complex architecture to hold those dark urges in place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    Another simple reason might be that this could be issue to some, which they just cant admit failure.It is impossible for them.Such a grand vision, just cant fail.And that my friend, is the main failure in itself.
    on that i agree!
    Last edited by Furunculus; 08-29-2011 at 19:13.
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