International board, or something, and the mods, and ciao

[Lemur]

Clever ad hominem Lemur. Just throw out a random accusation that he wanted to "take some power for himself" in order to give less credit to the original point of inequality.

You use that word "ad hominem"; I don't think it means what you think it means.

What I'm getting from this thread is a lot of cries of "INJJUSTICE!" and very little constructive suggestions. If anyone wants to put forward proposals for better self-governance, then by all means, draft it up, propose it, put it on the table. Ask anybody who's worked in an organization successfully; you want something done, propose a sensible, workable solution. Merely complaining gets you nowhere unless you're a rich brat at a boutique store.

Speaking of which, let's have a look at what unhelpful suggestions look like:

Kindly ask some of the mods to step down, when they have expired their "best before" date. Replace with people who are more friendly towards the world at large, and members in particular.

And who shall make this determination of which mods have reached their expiry date? If anything, we have trouble retaining mods, given that modding is (a) thankless, and (b) unpaid. Shall we form a committee to decide which mods are expired? And who shall staff that committee? And how will we know when that committee is past its date? Or would you rather have global votes on which mods should be defrocked? But such a vote would need to be anonymous, so who do we trust to monitor an anonymous vote, if the mods are such a bunch of mutual-bear-soaping , clique-encouraging sycophants?

Shape up and admit that some of the mods are doing a less than perfect job.

I would be fascinated to find where you have found anyone -- anyone -- asserting that the mods are perfect, the admins are perfect, the internets are perfect or that love is perfect. ACIN, pay attention if you want to invoke rhetorical/logical fallacies; that was not an ad hominem, but rather a strawman that Shibumi shared with the group.

What does "shape up" mean in this context? How is this "shaping up" to be accomplished? What positive mechanism can you imagine? Are you capable of imagining and proposing a workable solution to this problem that has you so hot under the collar?

Try, please. Complaints without a plan are worthless.