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Its newish. <10 years old. Point is that it shouldn't be something to be tolerated.


Not what I said. If we all said it was ok to rape, does that make the make the act of rape in and of itself ok? Do you think it is perfectly fine to say that rape is bad in the US because we say it is bad, but it is ok in some tribal land where they think differently?
Why is it either bad or good in and of itself? How do we know? Why should we care?

I believe what I believe because they are (or at least I try to have them be) logical conclusions stemming from undeniable axioms. Of course, you would probably deny them, but I doubt you would have a solid reason to refute them.
Undeniable? How so? "Logical" and "undeniable" are excuses.

Not angered, not weary. Linear algebra wearies me when I have to do 5x5 matrixes all night long. This perspective intrigues me because it seems self defeating. If we all believed x was acceptable than it would be acceptable to us. So if we all believe that our standards and morals were not arbitrary, then our standards and morals are not arbitrary.
They would not be arbitrary - to us. Correct. What I said was tautological: if you believe something, you believe it.

I also said that arbitrariness is subjective - like your moral axioms.