*Sigh* The Dating Scene

[PanzerJaeger]

Well you're wrong. Sorry.

Why? I've read through the thread and I still haven't figured it out.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Surely. Night night ACIN

Well, you were talking about casual sex on the whole as hollow and pointless.

Well, I am an idiot for being so broad. I think that from a psychological perspective, the benefits of casual sex are hollow and pointless because there are other activities that can provide the same benefit without having the individual to place his/her trust in another individual to provide attention and gratification.

That aside, I have written about its psychological implications as well just above. Its impact on REM sleep, which has a crucial role in placating depression and enhancing your cognitive and memory skills, on Oxytocin secretion and on alleviating stress are all almost exclusively concerning your psyche.

This is so far off from what I am trying to talk about though. Having a good night's sleep is fine and all for day to day sanity, but buying a more comfortable bed doesn't make you more psychologically stable overall.

Hmmmm mmnot really?
If we are not discussing morals, and we have established it has very beneficial psychological and physical consequences while any sort of negative biological repercussions are avoidable, how exactly is casual sexual intercourse “blowing” you away into pointlessness and hollowness? (no pun intended)
What you are perhaps referring to is not sexual intercourse, but your human relationship with your partner, which is something that in practice “blows up” in short and long term relationships in equal measure, with the caveat that while you may physically experience short term relationships with increased frequency, you also detach yourself from any negative fallout more easily, while in long term relationships, many people become genuine emotional cripples after an “explosion”, to keep to your analogy.
Nevertheless, unrelated to sexual intercourse between mature unattached responsible partners.

What I am talking about is that instead of trying to "find yourself" in this world by having brief, fleeting actions of pleasure with numerous people, it is more constructive and healthy imo, to do other activities that have you building your character through self trials that allow to discover yourself through an internal process. There is nothing morally wrong about anything I am arguing against, but I get annoyed at seeing overly hedonistic behavior on tv where dysfunctional people are plentiful (and glorified) and then at the same time have the argument in front of me that clubbing for sex is actually turning out very healthy people.

'You have told me before the psychological benefits of casual sex, but as far as I can remember from what you wrote, my complaint at the time (I don't think I posted this though) was that even if it was true, and that casual sex worked for many people, that still doesn't make it the correct choice (and I am not talking about morals here). '

Nothing wrong with it either, unless you somehow believe that deep down that girl wanting sex is really desperate for her daddy to safe her from you. So archaic to think women have no will of their own

I have already stated I find nothing morally wrong with casual sex. So drop the trolling.

Why? I've read through the thread and I still haven't figured it out.

I wasn't being serious about you being factually wrong. Everything I am saying is merely my opinion.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Idk, maybe I should just accept that I am an old traditionalist at heart, start watching The Andy Griffith Show and lament the end of the good ole days.

[Nowake]

Mmmno, I wouldn't go that far in what you're concerned.

dysfunctional people are plentiful (and glorified) and then at the same time have the argument in front of me that clubbing for sex is actually turning out very healthy people

I still believe you're just not addressing the right issue i.e. those people have not become dysfunctional because of their hedonism, but rather due to their IQ, education and values, or lack thereof, which in turn led them to a depraved life, using sex to assuage their existential anxieties.
And I'd side with you on the somewhat disgusting side of clubbing for sex. Personally, I can't help connecting my visits to certain clubs with strolls to the Zoo.

[Fragony]

I have already stated I find nothing morally wrong with casual sex. So drop the trolling.

Dear diary, today I once again didn't read every word ACIN shared with the world, I know it's wrong because it's so very very important and deep down I know I should care

Going to bed without tea

[naut]

ACIN. I wouldn't say casual sex is meaningless, in fact I wouldn't say it is any less meaningless than anything in life. The actual act of casual sex, like the actual act of a wedding, is by itself entirely meaningless. However, if you take into account the principles and emotions it carries with it, it does however gain meaning. It is the embodiment of rebellion, freedom and passion. In the same way that a wedding embodies fidelity and commitment.

Casual sex is not about seeking some form of permanence or transcendence. It is merely aimed at the excitement and experience of the moment. As it goes, death is coming, why not get the maximum quantity out of one life? In the end isn't it all meaningful in our minds and simultaneously meaningless, an echo, in a hollow universe?

[Fragony]

How many times did that one work

[Fragony]

Yeahyeah but that was awesome Psychonaut, you should do screenwriting. Imagine text in scene where guy picks up stupid girl

[Montmorency]

Casual sex is not about seeking some form of permanence or transcendence. It is merely aimed at the excitement and experience of the moment. As it goes, death is coming, why not get the maximum quantity out of one life? In the end isn't it all meaningful in our minds and simultaneously meaningless, an echo, in a hollow universe?

I find it really existentialism really hard to appreciate.

It's surprising to me that more individuals don't follow the lead of the people in this video:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[naut]

Yeahyeah but that was awesome Psychonaut, you should do screenwriting. Imagine text in scene where guy picks up stupid girl

Hey, what can I say, I like my girls like I like my prog rock. Slow.

And instead of challenging ourselves to find out who we really are, instead of taking this opportunity we have to learn before our short time is over, we bask ourselves in primal feelings and actions and declare it to be on the same level as anything else because, hey, nothing means anything right?

You got it buddeh!

[a completely inoffensive name]

Mmmno, I wouldn't go that far in what you're concerned.

I still believe you're just not addressing the right issue i.e. those people have not become dysfunctional because of their hedonism, but rather due to their IQ, education and values, or lack thereof, which in turn led them to a depraved life, using sex to assuage their existential anxieties.
And I'd side with you on the somewhat disgusting side of clubbing for sex. Personally, I can't help connecting my visits to certain clubs with strolls to the Zoo.

You have a solid point about how they got to that point. However, the activity itself I feel, is like a feedback loop that perpetuates such dysfunction because it is a risky path towards self discovery and character building. There are many people who do come from affluent backgrounds, with proper (more or less) schooling and a perfectly fine IQ who get into the clubbing scene and degenerate as a person. You are right about the lifestyle not actively causing anyone psychological problems, but I would say that it does have the potential to accelerate such problems.

Dear diary, today I once again didn't read every word ACIN shared with the world, I know it's wrong because it's so very very important and deep down I know I should care

Going to bed without tea

For someone wondering if he is depressed, you still got quite a fire underneath you Frag. <3 Btw, I read everything you say.....

ACIN. I wouldn't say casual sex is meaningless, in fact I wouldn't say it is any less meaningless than anything in life. The actual act of casual sex, like the actual act of a wedding, is by itself entirely meaningless. However, if you take into account the principles and emotions it carries with it, it does however gain meaning. It is the embodiment of rebellion, freedom and passion. In the same way that a wedding embodies fidelity and commitment.

When has casual sex embodied rebellion and freedom and passion? You are harping back to the 1960s and 1970s, when merely talking about such things was a social error in most situations. Sex since the 1980s is ubiquitous and is the farthest thing from rebellion, freedom and passion now. It's now a tool for marketing, shoved in our faces everyday, saturated in our culture. It's dull. It is the status quo for today's society, not the counterculture. Look at the shows that revolve around sex and partying. When do the characters do anything but sex and partying (and drama)? Such freedom they enjoy! The freedom to glorify never reading a book or shutting up for a day. In the 1960s, free love not free sex was the catchphrase.

Casual sex is not about seeking some form of permanence or transcendence. It is merely aimed at the excitement and experience of the moment. As it goes, death is coming, why not get the maximum quantity out of one life? In the end isn't it all meaningful in our minds and simultaneously meaningless, an echo, in a hollow universe?

So casual sex is rebellious but isn't about transcending the culture you are rebelling against? So it's like I said, hollow and pointless?

We are privileged to have these lives. To have these thoughts. To have the capacity to communicate about abstract ideas and have this conversation in the first place. And instead of challenging ourselves to find out who we really are, instead of taking this opportunity we have to learn before our short time is over, we bask ourselves in primal feelings and actions and declare it to be on the same level as anything else because, hey, nothing means anything right?

[Fragony]

For someone wondering if he is depressed, you still got quite a fire underneath you Frag.

Oh that, didn't last

[Husar]

It is the embodiment of rebellion, freedom and passion.

First one, makes you sound like a troublesome teenager.

Second one, sorry, already reserved for cars and airplanes.

Third one, well, it's casual, artists often have passion, but not the casual ones. Don't confuse passion and lust.

[Husar]

What if we have a passion for lust?

There are special clubs for that, but when you're passionate about something, how is it casual?

[Monk]

We are here on earth to muck about. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[Peasant Phill]

Told a girl today "It's not you, it's me" and she laughed at me lol. Not the response I expected!

That line is only the tiniest bit overused. At least you gave her a better explenation than just that?
Or it could be that she was also thinking of calling it a day and was relieved.