Military reforms?

**abou** · 10-28-2013, 18:58

Originally Posted by themilo

Just because I can’t fix something doesn’t invalidate my complaint, the only that would invalidate my complaint is that it’s simply impossible to mod units upgrading into better/different units.

In this case, it does. Because there is actually no way to track every unit that gets changed in a reform that you have recruited and replace them exactly with a reform unit.

What's more, your complaint of something that impossible -- or at the least incredibly difficult -- to do has so turned you off from the mod that you've basically decided to throw it away.

**themilo** · 10-28-2013, 21:16

Originally Posted by abou

In this case, it does. Because there is actually no way to track every unit that gets changed in a reform that you have recruited and replace them exactly with a reform unit.

What's more, your complaint of something that impossible -- or at the least incredibly difficult -- to do has so turned you off from the mod that you've basically decided to throw it away.

I’m not throwing this mod away just for one very annoying feature(that isent even the mods fault) but I can understand why you would think that, it’s very annoying but at least it’s one of those annoyances that only lasts a few(well okay more than a few) turns, what is this mod fault and what might make me give up on this mod is that instead of one reform there are several, hopefully the rest of the mod is good enough that I can overlook that.

**Ca Putt** · 10-30-2013, 12:58

yeah retraining=reforming would be quite convenient. This however is sort of a Feature in EB2 afaik, not for romans but for celts, at least to some extent.

Also you don't have to Play as Rome, apart from rome only few factions have so many reformed Units that you'd Train new armies. And only celts sortof get into the same Situation as romans. For Saka rauka and Parthia is more like: Hey guys we can actually Train infantry now, awesome! so you don't replace your armies you just add a few ones that don't exclusively consist of horsearchers^^ It's similar with hayasdan, tho not as extreme.
Carthage, Arche seleukeia, Sweboz, Koinon hellenon, Makedonia and... who ever I forgot mainly just get a few new Units, added to their selection that can help make their armies more diverse/powerfull.

**Principe** · 10-30-2013, 16:34

I feel that much of the fun is in the reforms. Working hard to get the Marian reforms is really good role play and gameplay wise. Play as a different faction if you want. The recruiting system is great. I made on legion of Hastati, Principes, and Triarii, but by the time I reached Gregovia, it was half Gallic. I love how it seems so realistic that an army that took heavy casualties might recruit local soldiers to fight for them.

**themilo** · 11-05-2013, 10:34

Originally Posted by Ca Putt

yeah retraining=reforming would be quite convenient. This however is sort of a Feature in EB2 afaik, not for romans but for celts, at least to some extent.

Also you don't have to Play as Rome, apart from rome only few factions have so many reformed Units that you'd Train new armies. And only celts sortof get into the same Situation as romans. For Saka rauka and Parthia is more like: Hey guys we can actually Train infantry now, awesome! so you don't replace your armies you just add a few ones that don't exclusively consist of horsearchers^^ It's similar with hayasdan, tho not as extreme.
Carthage, Arche seleukeia, Sweboz, Koinon hellenon, Makedonia and... who ever I forgot mainly just get a few new Units, added to their selection that can help make their armies more diverse/powerfull.

The problem is that beside Rome carthage and Egypt nearly every other faction in the game is too hard for me, plus I want to play as Rome because beside the reforms I like playing as Rome.

**Principe** · 11-05-2013, 17:47

Most factions are easy once you try them. I used to suck at barbarian armies. Now, I still suck, but I can conquer Rome with the Aedui. It's all how you think of it. Carthage is my personal favorite, but I think all of them have a chance. I think Makedon or Epeiros would be a good start. This is coming from a phalanx strategist, which you may not want to be. Then it's your own free will.

**sleep_well** · 11-07-2013, 04:41

Did Rome actually retrained their old armies or they simply raised new ones in the new fashion, maybe they changed equipments of their veterans? I am always interested with this question.

I also found the reforms for Rome to be no inconvenience at all, they did mess up my armies sometimes but no big deal. Besides, they should mess things up. I would imagine Camillian legions mixing with Polybian reinforcement to be historically accurate since come on they just strip their whole arsenal in 3 months??? Such reforms should be huge and would require considerable amount of time to carry out, a few years I think, so yeah I have nothing to complaint. If you don't want to recruit new armies then don't, simply reinforce them with new units, maybe forming a corp of veterans in those legions, or sending them as vanguards so your new units can be fresh and tidy.

Also, until someone do something to Rome 2, I'm not buying that mess.

**themilo** · 11-07-2013, 23:12

Originally Posted by Principe

Most factions are easy once you try them. I used to suck at barbarian armies. Now, I still suck, but I can conquer Rome with the Aedui. It's all how you think of it. Carthage is my personal favorite, but I think all of them have a chance. I think Makedon or Epeiros would be a good start. This is coming from a phalanx strategist, which you may not want to be. Then it's your own free will.

I tried Macedonia and it was anything but easy, the only way I can think of to win is to hold off Epirus in palla by killing their elephants and then holding out for 6 more turns until I can take Athens.