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    Predictable. So place a stigma on islam like fascism and communism. Amateur securitization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWithThe5 View Post
    Predictable. So place a stigma on islam like fascism and communism. Amateur securitization.
    The stigma is not on Islam per se but the seeming tacit approval most of the muslim world gives when one of these attacks happen. The stigma is against the people who would like replace the wests value system with their own, all the while enjoying what it brings them.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    The stigma is not on Islam per se but the seeming tacit approval most of the muslim world gives when one of these attacks happen.
    What is this based on? Just show me. I want to know.

    The thing about demonization of an entire people is that it works for nobody but yourself. Why would I applaud or show "tacit" approval of anyone that is damaging the reputation of my faith and the main component of my community's regression?

    Then again this is probably going nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWithThe5 View Post
    What is this based on? Just show me. I want to know.

    The thing about demonization of an entire people is that it works for nobody but yourself. Why would I applaud or show "tacit" approval of anyone that is damaging the reputation of my faith and the main component of my community's regression?

    Then again this is probably going nowhere.
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ical-minority/

    The pew numbers from Feburary show that support for suicide bombings and/or violence in places like Jordan and Pakistan only went down after those places themselves have come under heavy attack from terrorists . Which is only human nature, I suppose.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...uslim-nations/

    Beyond that, the same Westerners who are demanding their countries import refugees en masse (with no real plan for the long term) have social views that are wildly opposed by these muslims. Rights for women, rights for homosexuals, rights for transgenders, are all very much opposed by these people.

    For the most part muslims shun or disdain social engagement in Western countries. As I have touched on before that is partially the fault of Western countries themselves. Most notably France whose idea of integration is basically force feeding muslim children pork, not the way I would try to integrate my immigrants.

    Coloring all of this is economic malaise. A young man without a job, without a girlfriend, and no prospects is dangerous no matter what his color or creed. I feel bad for these young guys who feel like strangers in the countries in which they were born. I'm sure both of us could bring up hundreds of examples of young men from places like Bradford and Marseilles who left their countries to join ISIS looking for purpose.

    The only problem is they end up hating ISIS and want to go back to England and France. They left feeling like foreigners and when they joined the group they thought would welcome them, they still felt like foreigners. It can't be easy, operating in that kind of social no mans land.

    I simply don't think large scale importation of Islam works in Western countries. The values are too far apart. This is not a judgement on either belief, just a simple thought that they don't mesh well together.
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    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Not clicking breitbart.

    5% of Jordan are Iraqis. 3,240,000 are Palestinians. The latter are Muslims who a few decades ago went to war with the Jordanian monarchy for not fighting Israel.
    The most positive rating for al Qaeda was in the Palestinian territories, where 25% had a favorable view of the terrorist organization.
    AQ, the main outspoken defender of Palestinian rights not too long ago. Palestinians are living under apartheid. It's not surprising they are hostile. Evidently this doesn't really bother most Muslim states.

    Do you any info on the sentiments of Muslims who haven't been subjugated by a Zionist western outpost or AQ-influenced in the case of Pakistan?
    have social views that are wildly opposed by these muslims. Rights for women, rights for homosexuals, rights for transgenders, are all very much opposed by these people.
    How many cases of homosexuals or transgender murdered by Muslims? If the United States is excelling here, surely the EU needs to bump up its incompetent security sector or stop biting off more than it can chew.
    For the most part muslims shun or disdain social engagement in Western countries.
    Bold statement. How in the world can anyone from the United States think this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HitWithThe5 View Post
    Not clicking breitbart.
    5% of Jordan are Iraqis. 3,240,000 are Palestinians. The latter are Muslims who a few decades ago went to war with the Jordanian monarchy for not fighting Israel.

    AQ, the main outspoken defender of Palestinian rights not too long ago. Palestinians are living under apartheid. It's not surprising they are hostile. Evidently this doesn't really bother most Muslim states.
    We are going to disagree on Israel, we can save that for another thread.

    How many cases of homosexuals or transgender murdered by Muslims? If the United States is excelling here, surely the EU needs to bump up its incompetent security sector or stop biting off more than it can chew.
    You can be honest, you know most mulims oppose these things. That is fine, a man is entitiled to his opinion. It is simply not the way the west is trending.

    Bold statement. How in the world can anyone from the United States think this...
    Integration in Europe is deteriorating and its the fault of both parties.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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