IKEA mafia [Concluded]

[Punisher]

Jeez, I lose internet for about 48 hours and then have to read 500 or so posts?

sheeping visor/pizza to jump on a village wagon, then peace out

it's something scum mat93 (punisher) would definitely do.

Actually agreed, I have done that before and would do it again, although I have strong history of trusting Visor's read on Jarrema as any alignment. Until reading he just said it because of Jarrema voting him.

I do not believe atpg's claim of being mason and vig, that being said, choice of target isn't bad (if not lieing about the vig part), so I'm happy to leave that to resolve later (insert my normal I don't read atpg well post here).

[Eldrick]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

What we have here is a case of people judging me by their standards when they should be judging me by my standards.

We've all made the "lol GH is older than the dinosaurs" type of jokes when nominating me to the championships, but there's truth behind those statements, and you all know I'm pretty stuck in my ways. One of those ways is me taking the first couple of rounds to really warm up in a game and take it all in. Well, that was the case on the .Org for years and years.

It was also the case for a while during the revival starting last year. But at a certain point, this changed. I think it was Visor's Snake Cult game where he brought in a lot of folks from outside. And then, pressing down hard on the gas right from the start became the new normal. People are now demanding reads lists and slapping themselves on the back for getting cases down on Day Friggin One. And that's just not how I operate.

I was able to slide by it for a while, but after the nomination, I know what's in store for me. So I'm trying to adjust. And when people like Zack and you are asking me what I think about the state of the game and making me do stuff I'm far more used to doing (and am far more comfortable with doing) in the endgame on Day Friggin One, of course it's going to sound artificial. Because I have one of two options in these types of scenarios:

Option 1) Come up with cases on people, and have it stand out because the cases are forced.

Option 2) Tell the truth, admit you have no reads, and then come under fire because seeing town/null reads left and right is a classic scumtell, and is, as a matter of fact, what did me in the most recent game before this one.

So yeah, I'm a bit uncomfortable right now, and I'm slightly more than a bit exasperated at this turn of events because I'm trying, but it's obviously not enough.

Now, I could lie to you right now and say that I have a case on somebody right now. That I've done my reads, that I've even attempted to do my reads, and here's what I have down so far. Or, I could tell you the truth and say I have jack squat.

Well, I have jack squat. Right now.

The choice is now up to you to determine how to react to this. This time, you're the one who has two options:

Option 1) Lynch me, wait for me to flip town, and lose my voice for the rest of the game because of the "no talking after death" rule, which I also hate but we'll leave that one for another time.

Option 2) Leave me alive and wait for me to do my own thing at my own pace.

You forget that the times may have changed, but I haven't. Not yet. Judge me on me and not the meta.

Loved this post. I, for one, will let you live, and see what that develops.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Punisher, it's probably okay to just admit we're masons at this point.

[Double A]

PIS?

Vote: ATPG

Maybe he just looked over Sooh's shoulder.

I'm hoping it gets easier to read you guys. The snap reads at the beginning and the reasons behind the votes make no sense at all to me.

I liked Visor's big post at the beginning. If it was his own, and not something he copied from someone else, he would be lock clear as village to me. I haven't yet decided if it's still villagery for him to pretend that that is his thought process.

I liked the comment about there already being 2 votes on someone. El Barto looking good for that.

Back to reading.

Yeah day 1 is just a bunch of crap. I have no idea why we're on page 20, though.

[El Barto]

Oh, c'mon, not even I -who am a serial OMGUSer- am voting for Visor. What's your real reason for that, edse?

[Sooh]

Votes:
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - GH, atheotes
Visor (1) - edse

Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Raith Kemmler, Punisher, Eldrick, johnhughthom, askthepizzaguy, Double A

[El Barto]

Sooh, khaan ain't playing, it's eldrick now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

El Barto, meet El drick-o

[Sooh]

Sooh, khaan ain't playing, it's eldrick now.

Oh duh! I thought I had changed it in my document as well.

Thanks for letting me know. Fixing immediately.

[El Barto]

You're welcome. You owe me 20 bazillion kroner.

[edse]

besides that being one of the dumber things I have seen today, I can name off the top of my head games where I have explicitly killed Pizza N1 as mafia.

1. Recent game where I was mafia with FoxLelay (who was inactive)
2. The Island, where I was mafia with Lewwyn

Yes, but you didn't do it this time.

Oh, c'mon, not even I -who am a serial OMGUSer- am voting for Visor. What's your real reason for that, edse?

The Mafia wants to keep people who make cases alive as long as they don't target them. Pizza, being shepherd delux, is the best example of such person.

[Sooh]

You're welcome. You owe me 20 bazillion kroner.

*Contemplates modkilling El Barto*

[El Barto]

Yes, but you didn't do it this time.

Which makes Visor…?

The Mafia wants to keep people who make cases alive as long as they don't target them. Pizza, being shepherd delux, is the best example of such person.

That statement is so ambiguous that I don't know how to respond.

*Contemplates modkilling El Barto*

This is unnecessary violence. Including damages for assault, the sum is now 23 bazillion kroner.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Raith Kemmler

I got nothing.

[Raith Kemmler]

Thread isn't moving. Did the first tucker out everyone?

Vote: Edse

Case on Aspg feels weak and half handed. Also Atheotes to a degree. Aspg might be mafia, but I aint buying these cases yet.

[Raith Kemmler]

General reads when I'm awake. Also I agree with new guy. Reads are tough in this game.

[El Barto]

I frankly don't understand the votes on atpg, but then I don't understand his kill claim either.

[Raith Kemmler]

If Atpg is paranoid town, lying liars lie a lot. Cover for the Vig, throw some sand up to confuse the mafia, kill angling to get more read cred, shenanigans.

[El Barto]

He's always paranoid regardless of alignment. Anyway, being masons with a vig sounds like too much… but then it doesn't sound like too much for him to claim in someone else's stead. Sometimes his pizzas are flavoured ‘random surprise’.

[Sooh]

Votes:
El Barto (1) - Visor
GeneralHankerchief (1) - El Barto
ATPG (2) - GH, atheotes
Visor (1) - edse
Raith Kemmler (1) - johnhughthom
Edse (1) - Raith Kemmler

Not voting: BSmith, Golden1Knight, Al Sips, Punisher, Eldrick, askthepizzaguy, Double A

[Eldrick]

It's not Pizza's claims that bother me.

It's that he is claiming to have more information about the setup than those claims would provide.

Vote: Pizza

I think that's how you guys do it here.

Also not sure how AK survived the lynch, I was gonna vote him today, but he's the dead.

[Eldrick]

El Barto, meet El drick-o

El hi o

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just for the record, I am lock clear, so each person voting for me needs to find a second candidate shortly.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just for the record, I am lock clear, so each person voting for me needs to find a second candidate shortly.

If you don't, I always lynch you this game. So do yourself a favor.

Not bluffing this time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You got 12 hours slowpokes.

[Eldrick]

You aren't lock clear and your threats mean nothing to me.

The only people that are lock clear are those that have already died and are mod confirmed town.

If you don't back up your threat with a vote, I'll just add it to the other lies you have spewed this game.

[Eldrick]

You hard claimed mason, which hasn't been confirmed. If you are telling the truth, whoever your partner is would be cleared upon your death. The fact that it isn't confirmed is fishy.

Your other claims don't mean as much being you said you wouldn't back down from your mason claim. Any other claims are useless by comparison.

You also claim to have more insight on the setup of the game. How?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You aren't lock clear and your threats mean nothing to me.

The only people that are lock clear are those that have already died and are mod confirmed town.

If you don't back up your threat with a vote, I'll just add it to the other lies you have spewed this game.

Happen to think Khaan was a villager, is the only reason I'm allowing this silliness.

[Visor]

i also think eldrick is a villager because of khaan

its angelshooty, but i don't believe khaan quits a game just because of the potential of GH being lynched if he is mafia. his team bond would override his bond

and if not lolkhaan, i'll just not sign up for games hes in, bloody shameful

[Askthepizzaguy]

i also think eldrick is a villager because of khaan

its angelshooty, but i don't believe khaan quits a game just because of the potential of GH being lynched if he is mafia. his team bond would override his bond

and if not lolkhaan, i'll just not sign up for games hes in, bloody shameful

So GH and atheotes still need to make proper votes.

The vote record is going to be utterly shameful and impossible to sort through later on if they don't.

Visor I would ask you to encourage this vote movement. the data is necessary.