Org Promotion

[ghostofxmaspast]

It is about Org Promotion...? The front page is the front page, there's not much to do with that unless it suffers a total redesign. I'm talking about the forum here. We're promoting the forum, the Org forum, hence Org Promotion.

I mentioned getting rid of the front page and having forums.totalwar.org redirect to the index, your response was "this is not about the front page".

Posting videos on YouTube won't magically garner views for you as a content producer. Those viewers have to come from somwhere, correct?

I was under the impression that search engines or just searching youtube would find such 'content'? I'm failing to see how relevant total war videos on youtube are however? If someone wants to post their video, they do that, either at .com the .org or TWC. I doubt they see themselves as "content producers"...

Never a clone, this is the Org we're talking about. I'm proposing different avenues to explore, different ideas, coming up with suggestions to get back the traffic to at least good levels (not like 2005 - 2006, that will be quite hard to do).

Unfortunately so far as I can tell, you have no ideas except that people need to produce 'content' and that will increase traffic. Sounds familiar...

Sorry to be blunt, but your posts just come across as empty "business speak".

[edyzmedieval]

I mentioned getting rid of the front page and having forums.totalwar.org redirect to the index, your response was "this is not about the front page".

Org never used the front page like other websites did. We have the front page to occasionally promote articles, different events and similar contests but other than that, it was not used like let's say TWC did to constantly promote mods and articles and other things. So the front page in the whole scheme of TW Org is not really that important.

Getting rid of it would probably suffice and do good - I'm neutral on this aspect.

I was under the impression that search engines or just searching youtube would find such 'content'? I'm failing to see how relevant total war videos on youtube are however? If someone wants to post their video, they do that, either at .com the .org or TWC. I doubt they see themselves as "content producers"...

Yes, and no. Yes, search engines and searching would bring you the content. No - that is not enough. There's hundreds of YouTube videos on popular games, and you'd be surprised to see some quality gameplay videos or walkthroughs that have under 1000 views.

Unfortunately so far as I can tell, you have no ideas except that people need to produce 'content' and that will increase traffic. Sounds familiar...

They don't need to. They already do. It's already there. And people produce content anyhow.

And that doesn't magically increase traffic just because it's there.

I'm trying to explain here that getting more members, after this restructuring is done, would require the Org to have discussions. Getting them to sign up will happen only if people see that we are active. It's a snowball effect. The more active this place is, the more members you get. And those discussions are on TW games, on off topics, on modding, on everything that has a subforum and place in this whole TW Org website. Getting people to stay engaged is to make sure the discussions are active, stimulating and interesting pretty much. One of the ideas - one, not the whole thing, just one - would be to have more discussions on content produced by either Orgahs or people from outside.

[ghostofxmaspast]

Org never used the front page like other websites did. We have the front page to occasionally promote articles, different events and similar contests but other than that, it was not used like let's say TWC did to constantly promote mods and articles and other things. So the front page in the whole scheme of TW Org is not really that important.

It's important if it exists, it's the first page users see and if it's out of date.

As for the rest you seem to be stating that we need activity to get more activity? I think most have worked that out already.

I accept that I'm not offering a solution to low traffic, but neither are you.

Talk is still just talk.

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Threads like this stimulate debate and discussion:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...p?152117-Craig

Closing them, slowly but surely kills the forums off. Excessive moderator intervention damages any forum - pre-emptive moderation because someone was slightly negative goes way overboard and drives people away.

Criticise CA or fawn all over them - it's irrelevant, This medium is obsolete in the eyes of the industry and social networking groups are a better medium for promoting their products.

[edyzmedieval]

You need activity for more activity. But that's not the point I'm making.

Members have called out for a reform of the forum structure. We're working on it - the question on forum structure is a way forward. That's a solution. It's the first step forward.

What's next? Floating ideas. I came up with dozens of ideas. Axalon himself has come up with ideas apart from his forum structure reform. Other posters as well. Float ideas, discuss them, develop them... this is the way forward.

And until you find an idea that works and it's applicable with ease, you discuss. Because no one came up with a perfect idea from the start.

[edyzmedieval]

A little gimmick idea I posted around 5 years ago, maybe it's still applicable. Just floating this out.

A War Room, official forums style - that way when you check the people's profile they can see what games you play (obviously TW games but which ones) and what achievements/stats you have (this should be optional and NOT linked to your Steam account like on the official forum, it's up to everyone if they want to include it)

[Vincent Butler]

I was just noticing, out of all forums (fora?) there are by far the most people on the RTW forum.

I tried the Windows 10 Game DVR out, but after a minute or two it really starts lagging. This is for an old game (Secret Service), same thing happened with Rome.

[edyzmedieval]

Not entirely surprising - Rome really propelled TW into the limelight, it's probably the most popular game throughout the whole series.