Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

I'm reading town on Al Sipsclar. Scum would vote for self-pres even against other scum. One of them is going down best to be in on the scum lynch. I think its more likely that a townie would not self-pres, simply because a townie doesn't have full knowledge of the game and can't be sure the other wagon is on scum. That sort of lack of certainty leads to things like not voting for self-preservation.

I guess, but he could elect not to self-pres on his scumbuddy if his scumbuddy is more valuable than him, and I don't get why you wouldn't self-pres as town. You're the only one you're 100% sure is townie, and accordingly, the overwhelming majority of the time, you're the worst possible lynch in your own eyes. I certainly don't get why you wouldn't want to self-pres on Day 1, there's usually not enough information on Day 1 to be able to read someone as significantly more likely to be town than just picking at random. Unless it's between you and a claimed power role and you're vanilla townie and you really trust the claim, I don't see why you'd ever not self-pres as town on Day 1.

[Lewwyn]

I guess, but he could elect not to self-pres on his scumbuddy if his scumbuddy is more valuable than him, and I don't get why you wouldn't self-pres as town. You're the only one you're 100% sure is townie, and accordingly, the overwhelming majority of the time, you're the worst possible lynch in your own eyes. I certainly don't get why you wouldn't want to self-pres on Day 1, there's usually not enough information on Day 1 to be able to read someone as significantly more likely to be town than just picking at random. Unless it's between you and a claimed power role and you're vanilla townie and you really trust the claim, I don't see why you'd ever not self-pres as town on Day 1.

I agree with you, but it happens. I've seen townies self vote and kill themselves on Day 1 because they thought they were weak townies and the other guy was more townie, not involving power roles.