Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

If BSmith was a mafia kill, that was a terrible selection on their part, I came into the thread today fully planning on going after him.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Arakhor, what's your town and scum lists looking like right now?

[Renata]

So it does seem scum targeted BSmith for nightkill - but why?

He had only 5 posts, fewest of all players, posted in one half-hour stretch.

Post 1, he votes for Al Sipsclar, unvotes, votes DP101. Singles out Zack slightly in the Zack-Winston-Renata confrontation.



The rest of his posts were just responses to Renata's questions. Was this really enough?

I'm playing with the idea that both BSmith and Al Sips were vig kills and the mafia hit a protection. (Or multiple protections, if they took multiple shots.) If they did kill him, maybe it was out of fear of how cheap all thsoe various means of protection and self-protection are, and they just wanted to ensure they hit somebody?

Even if Zack's scum, which I can see now more than last night, I doubt that tiny bit of shade that BSmith cast would be a decision-maker for them.

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Visor

I'm aware he voted for Al Sips.

Bit weak, don't you think?

Vote: Visor

[Renata]

Bit weak, don't you think?

Vote: Visor

Terribly.

[Montmorency]

When is the part where I demand night results from everyone and spreadsheet the game by tomorrow?

[Montmorency]

Not even spreadsheet: Notepad.

[Renata]

When is the part where I demand night results from everyone and spreadsheet the game by tomorrow?

Get 'em from the scummy people first.

[Arakhor]

Arakhor, what's your town and scum lists looking like right now?

Well, given that both my targets from yesterday turned out to be scum, fairly empty right now. I'll have to go back and review the thread some more.

I will note that it was interesting that Al came up with that half-baked excuse about how I might have some sort of grudge against him from a previous game. That is, it would be fairly half-baked if he was town, but since he was also scum, I'm guessing it was a fairly odd attempt at deflection.

[Renata]

Winston, you going to pull out some pure tones today? I think you're pretty well spewed clear, but I can't say for sure it'd hold up at LYLO right now, not that I'll make it that far.

[Montmorency]

Atheotes-Visor is an interesting parallelism. I don't think they could both be scum, so might as well pressure both at once.

Atheotes has been more assertive in his town game lately, but in this game - he just isn't responding to the content throughout the day.

Mostly irrelevant banter or humor, from his few posts.

At start of day, he accused me of being scum and voted me on the basis of a gif I posted. Town atheotes would not do that. He would either seriously take that as evidence and make a case against me, or he wouldn't vote me at all.

[Renata]

Not even in RVS? /devil's advocate

[Montmorency]

Not even in RVS? /devil's advocate

RVS?

[Choxorn]

Other people on the 30-second Monty CFD attempt last night were Zack (who quickly switched off to Dp), and Al himself.

Not ready to scumread Zack by any stretch but I am making a note of it.

I'd say that Zack suddenly switching back to Dp makes him look better, if he was mafia and wanted to go with the rest of his teammates on a CFD he would have stayed on Monty, if he was mafia and didn't want to join the CFD he would have had no reason to switch off Dp in the first place. Unless he just wants to be confusing and screw with us, I don't see why Zack would do that as scum.

If BSmith was a mafia kill, that was a terrible selection on their part, I came into the thread today fully planning on going after him.

Maybe they didn't try to kill BSmith, but there was a bus driver?

Bit weak, don't you think?

Terribly.

What's a bit weak?

[Winston Hughes]

What's a bit weak?

Since it worked out so well, I'm repeating what I did yesterday: calling Renata's vote weak, then sheeping it.

[Renata]

RVS?

Random vote stage. Silly season.

[Renata]

Since it worked out so well, I'm repeating what I did yesterday: calling Renata's vote weak, then sheeping it.

You are causing me physical pain right now.

[Montmorency]

Random vote stage. Silly season.

Lack of content afterwards makes it suspect. Lodge the obligatory random vote, and then fade out into lurking. We'll see when he posts his reads.

To reiterate: I call on people to own up to their night results. I began by presenting my own night action, which was - in game terms - to hide/commute myself.

[Renata]

Lack of content afterwards makes it suspect. Lodge the obligatory random vote, and then fade out into lurking. We'll see when he posts his reads.

To reiterate: I call on people to own up to their night results. I began by presenting my own night action, which was - in game terms - to hide/commute myself.

What do you expect to gain from this, besides outing the vig (which to be fair I'm not entirely sure would be a bad thing).

[Montmorency]

What do you expect to gain from this, besides outing the vig (which to be fair I'm not entirely sure would be a bad thing).

I stand by my D1 recommendation to avoid revealing Tier-4 selections or actions. The one-shot would be used in this case, but it would reveal a tempting target in the form of a largely-cleared townie. Whether or not someone would like to serve as Bsmith did in the Democracy game (claimed vig ftw), I leave to individual discretion.

(Then again, it does take heat off me and Renata if someone claims vig).

[Winston Hughes]

To reiterate: I call on people to own up to their night results. I began by presenting my own night action, which was - in game terms - to hide/commute myself.

Mine is so insanely suspicious...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I attempted to watch you.

[Snerk]

GeneralHankerchief:
Huge summary post and lots of reads. Seems mostly on the ball. Al vote is null. TOWN
Montmorency:
Dp vote looks pure. TOWN
Choxorn:
Votes Dp when the Al wagon was forming, unscummy IMO. I liked his post lynch summary posts. TOWN
Atheotes:
Don’t like his I’ll be back later with reads. Part of the Montmorency wagon scums tried as a last push for a mislynch. SCUM
Arakhor:
Seems samey as previous town games. Dp made an unbussy Arakhor vote. TOWN
Visor:
Kinda unreadable. Third on Al wagon. TOWN
Csargo:
Pure gut but if scummy then why not bus yesterday since one scum was going down anyway? TOWN
Winston Hughes:
Very untidy reaction to pressure. TOWN/SCUM
Kcaz:
I guess liked his Winston confrontation. TOWN
Sooh
On neither scum wagons. Her beef with Zack looks a little opportunistic. I can see her not wanting to bus. My attempt at learning more about Sooh last night was thwarted. SCUM
Renata:
Not completely giving up my Renata tunneling. Her early Al vote seems unconstructive as scum. But her game opening WAS scummy. She pushed for Arakhor/Winston wagon over the mafia wagons until a scum lynch was inevitable. TOWN/SCUM
Lewwyn:
IMO his early Dp vote is towny due to an Al wagon also forming. TOWN

[Arakhor]

My ability was to watch if someone was visited last night. I'm interested if anyone is going to confirm what I saw.

[Renata]

Mine is so insanely suspicious...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I attempted to watch you.

I guess you're confirming it didn't work?

[GeneralHankerchief]

atheotes wasn't part of the CFD, Snerk. His Monty vote was from earlier.

[Montmorency]

My attempt at learning more about Sooh last night was thwarted.

Go on.

[Renata]

Can't decide whether Snerk refusing to give up his tunnel makes him more or less scummy.

[Montmorency]

I'm going to assume all or most of us were presented with watcher and/or tracker abilities.

[Winston Hughes]

I guess you're confirming it didn't work?

Yup.

Spell just died.

[Renata]

Yup.

Spell just died.

Thumbs up. So why you lampshading scumminess in this choice of yours?