Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
I do believe animals sin as they have spirts or souls i forget witch. P
We here are not concerned with what one BELIEVES. We are talking quotations. Please, cite anything in Bible which says that animals have souls similar to humans and that they can sin.

Here is definition of sin (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin)
1 a : an offense against religious or moral law
b : an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensible it's a sin to waste food
c : an often serious shortcoming : fault
2 a : transgression of the law of God
b : a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God

Do tell me which explanations of sin are applicable to animals.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
In fact the opposite, he assures us we will suffer.
So we will suffer, he will not interfere in it, and we must love him for that?

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"Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that's a tough call. That's rebellion."
-Alice Cooper


Alice Cooper
"Steal That Car"

It just ain't fair I was put in that position
Somebody left their keys in the ignition
I saw the unlocked door and made my decision
I just can't help myself

Everybody knows
I'm gonna steal that car
My reputation shows
I'm gonna steal that car
I did some time in '99
I'll do some time again
Everybody knows
I'm gonna steal that car

You somehow should sort out those whose opinions you rely on. Some of them aren't any authority outside their narrow circle, others have a dubious reputation (like Alice Cooper - I love him, by the way. One of my favorite singers. Grew up on his "Trash" and "Hey stoopid" albums).

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
Agreed god is a jealous god as the bible clearly says.
One more proof that Bible is full of contradictions. Or perhaps God is so versatile.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
And in what way is god jealous? what kind of jealousy is it? is it in a manner inconstant with a loving god? or is it because of his love? the context can help us understand that. Otherwise some might use it and create a false context and try and make his jealousy the way that some humans become jealous over things they should not.
From what I quoted, his jealousy was aroused when someone prayed to other gods.



Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
Once more I would suggest it is because you have ignored the context and your claim of children being punished for the fathers sin is a great example of this.
It is a great example that God can be needlessly cruel.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
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Humans try to explain what God says or means using their human logics (in their defense - they don't have any other). So we interpret his messages as we understand them. Which doesn't mean it is the correct interpretation of the divine will. Perhaps this is one of the reasons Bible is so contradictory.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
So you are saying you wish jesus was always around to heal the sick etc. He always told people this was not his mission as they just wanted to get well, he wanted their eternity with him, far more important.
At least it would make more sense if one claims to be a merciful God. Otherwise it again looks like a politician's promise - you adhere to me and some time in future I'll try to do something about your current problems.