No way. Dean simply did not have Obama's charm.

I didn't mean charm by the charisma comment, i was probably misusing the word, i was talking more of his energetic personality...

In retrospect, the fact that a hyper-lib patricianesque twit like Kerry came as close to a win as he did should have been a huge wake-up call for the GOP.

I never got the feeling kerry was all that liberal, i assumed the most liberal eva comments to have as much in them as they did against obama... maybe i was wrong...

Incidentally i do remember having a discussion on this board with some republicans who were delighted with the fact Bush recieved more votes than reegan, maybe this added to a sense of safety in thier winning margins..