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    I thought that most often the rockets were fired from the fields.

    I agree that professing to hate the superpower next door that is chocking off power, water and food is immflamatory, but I imagine an election manifesto of "Israel is our misunderstood friend" would get few votes. There's a reasonable chance that the populace are upset about being treated the way they are.

    In the situation I don't know who I'd think would make a difference. What would you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I thought that most often the rockets were fired from the fields.

    I agree that professing to hate the superpower next door that is chocking off power, water and food is immflamatory, but I imagine an election manifesto of "Israel is our misunderstood friend" would get few votes. There's a reasonable chance that the populace are upset about being treated the way they are.

    In the situation I don't know who I'd think would make a difference. What would you suggest?

    i would suggest that the previously delusional people of Gaza are finally realising what their vote bought them, along with a clear perception that they will have to live with the fact that israel lives next door and will always be the godzilla of the neighbourhood, so why keep sticking pins in his side.

    it is possible that this recent conflict has created conditions more conducive to a future peace, in that it has allowed Kadima the breathing room within israels stifling system of coalition governance to push on with a peace process, and that it may finally have cause palestinians to realise that israel isn't going to go away, whatever they do or wish.
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    Yet you've not answered what to do.

    Sit down contentedly with no infrastructure, awaitinf the next nutritionally deficient meal and hoping that you don't get ill as there's no health service? Then if there's time organise militia patrols to ensure that no one dares to antagonise the Isralis or fires any rockets.

    If there was a postal service, one might ask the Israli PM how many years before they might be allowed to have open borders...

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    well, as the der-speigel article makes clear the gazans themselves realise they have a problem in that they voted in a bunch of terrorists who they cannot criticise or remove. what indeed will they do? most countries choose revolution in that situation if they have the balls and a fighting chance of winning.
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    They also have to somehow get off the dole. Those folks receiving subsidies and not paying taxes, tho' often the loudest grousers, are seldom the ones sparking revolutions or reforms.

    revenues: $1.149 billion (95% foreign aid)
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    These people need product. Not to consume; to make, and sell, and export.
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    These people need product. Not to consume; to make, and sell, and export.
    Thats kinda hard when the borders are closed nearly all the time so you don't get any imports or exports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    Thats kinda hard when the borders are closed nearly all the time so you don't get any imports or exports
    And make rockets out of all the fertilizer.

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